October 30, 2023 • 31 mins
Michael talks to Vincent Bragg and Joe Nickerson about their way of smashing recidivism. It’s a big word for “getting our and staying out”. It threw me,too. Let’s talk about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M hm, y'all ready, let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, so missus, Michael called this world, started doing venice peach.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Now he reached in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
He'll make you laught ticket, stomach car, superfly, nice guys
praying to me, trust to old he ain't ready for
the star searching winter and oh g three times this
ain't gonna beginning. Whether you want your house, you want
your brother's a dinner on your job and your brother
that I mean, it's a call.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Michael Talks said, everybody to call Michael Taus. That everybody
like to call Michael Taus.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That everybody you know what SHA called Michael Fox said,
everybody I called Michael Talks and everybody Michael.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
To say my body, everybody, everybody don't call Yeah, Hi,
yes sir, it's your boy Michael. Hey, everybody, Michael talks
to everybody. One day I might even talk to you. Well,
today I'm very excited to have two friends here. Who's
gonna talk to about an experience that we shared together,
(01:04):
two great young gentlemen and one of the wonderful Vincent Bragg,
and also Joe Nixon. We knew each other years ago,
and then we just ran back into each other like
a few weeks ago, and we're gonna be sharing remembrances today.
I'm gonna let you tell I'm gonna let them tell
you what it's all about. And my guest, my crew
(01:25):
member today is my cousin. Cousin Derek was really my nephew,
the great Derek Keena out of Arkansas comedian actor Park
exe Line. Welcome Derek, Welcome Vincent, and welcome Joe. Welcome
all y'all to the show of shows. Michael talks to everybody.
When I say everybody, you know, I even talked to
motherfucking convicts. I'm that kind of nigga. I'm just playing.
(01:49):
I'm just playing both of these gentlemen. I met Internal
Island Prison when I would go in and take comedy
shows and for like fourteen years with a thing called comics,
go to jail and I would take five comedians. Once
a month. They let us in and we go to
the prison door hour and a half free for the inmates.
We were there to try to remind the gentleman that
(02:09):
just because your body like down, don't mean you ain't free.
You know, if your spirit is free, you can soar
and fly and create all kinds of things, and sometimes
in these type of institutions, they don't want you to
have anything creative. They just want you to just they're
not trying to rehabilitate. They do know that shit. They're
just trying to babysit and keep you still and that
kind of thing. So when we was coming, it was
kind of a joy for them. They really enjoyed it.
(02:31):
I know we got a lot of it out of it.
All the comics felt great to perform to such a
captive audience. And and so let me.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
But that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Had let me introduce two guys who took their lives
and did something with it. Because I hate ricidivism. I
hate the idea of we go to prison, we come
right back next week. It's like a revolving door. I
love it when guys get out and they realized they
wasted They fucking damn spend all that time sitting around
other people who ain't doing shit with daytime. I like
(03:07):
it when they get out and it turned around and
turned into a life. These gentlemen are now entrepreneurs and
very successful, and now we get to hear their story.
Vincent Bragg and Joe Nixon. Hi, guys, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Thank you for having us. Brother. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Man, thank you for having us. Man.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
When y'all walked up to me, we were that p
diddies function. What is it called.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
The Revote World Summit?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The Revote World Summit, And I saw you guys in
the street. You walked up to me and you recounted
your story. Can y'all share something? Wait before we talk
about our relationship, tell me how y'all got interm of
the island in the first place.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
What did y'all do or can you tell.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What y'all do? Vincent Bragg, what did you do?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Okay, So, once upon a time, in a lifetime not
long ago, I happen felt alive the cocaine my friend knew.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I recognized you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
I in a former lifetime, I allegedly successfully robbed twenty
seven banks by the age of twenty two.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Damn, I should have rolled with you, nicks.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Okay, all right about wow, allegedly, my ass when you
would pat a specific number, or as my mama will say,
a Pacific number, a Pacific number.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, so you must have been pretty good to have
got away with it that many times before you get caught,
and to be so young, you must have had a system.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Well, first off, he never got caught.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I never got caught. Yeah, I don't get that to us.
And I got apprehended from West Los Angeles College. I
start selling weed after that because I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I was good. I beat John Dillinger's record.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
If you know who John Dillondre is, he robbed twenty
three banks, I robbed twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
The legend you.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Never get for that.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
I never got taught either, Uncle Mike, and I want
to I want to stop asking him this ship right now,
for they both end up like keithy D.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We're done asking.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
And we want talking about this morning.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
This nigga, keep you d moved to jail, places to
move to move phrase where he got the case.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'm gonna try to jail nigga.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
This nigga he had an apartment. He had an apartment
on the same block as the jail nigga.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I'm sorry that ship, dude. I was like, let's stop, right,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Feeling the United States of America right, they frowned upon
said behaviors and put us on what we like to
call an adult time out. So we end up in
federal prison where you know, we got smart, right, We
studied the law and corporate law, real estate law. We
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read a bunch of books. We wrote some books, hosted
cancer walks, think tanks, launch businesses from from inside of there.
And I'll let him tell this story. But one day
we happened to be in the TV room watching TV
and we kept seeing the same news story on all
the TV. So if you if you know anything about prison,
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it's four TVs in the TV room. One is on Sports,
one is on CNN, one is miscellaneous, the other is
you know, on b TV. Right, it's gonna watch music
videos and shit right right right. So we keep seeing
the same story on there, and that story is.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Star running back from the Dallas Cowboys has been arrested
for a still in underwear. Made no sense to me,
So we dig into the story some more, because you know,
we're investigating, we want to know all of the details.
While we get into the story, he's actually been in
this Dallas mall shopping all day. He had his son
with him. His son was going through his terrible tools
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to calming down. He takes him outside. Well, he forgets
to pay for two items, one which happens to be
a pair of Ralph Warren underwear well Lo and behold,
we happen to be incarcerated with the founder of a
startup underwear company called me Andy's right. I said, listen, bro,
I don't know what you know, but I know right now,
you need to.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Attach yourself to this situation.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
If we get in here, if we pay for his fine,
turn this the negative into a positive, you'll be on
the map. So after a couple of days of trying
to twist his teams on because imagine him telling his
team he's taking advice from someone for prison. So after
we do this, we do this is on a Thursday,
and we pull the trigger Sunday morning.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
We have the money.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Before go and we wake up and Stephen A. Smiths's
reporting Adam Schefter and it's what the kids called viral.
And that's when we have on ahamong We're like, oh, ship,
so we have this this thing, and it's time to celebrate.
And when we celebrate, you know, like we would do
when you would come in with your comedy shows, we
would make a big deal, like we would really cook,
go get all the vegetables, do it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Do to do to do it big.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
So we're looking for Vincent to come and do such
because he's in a different building, and we put an
ap b out and I'll pass this part of the
story back to hell.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
So they looking for me. I had what I what
they like to call the Moses moment, you know what
I'm saying. So I'm on the mountain in my whole
little unit mapping this ship out, like, okay, we could
be doing this. So I come down finally to go cook.
I asked Joe. I'm like, so when you see a
McDonald's commercial, who you think doing that? His answer he
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said McDonald's. And I'm like, no one who making the commercials?
And I said no. They hire people to come up
with these ideas, production companies to shoot the thing. It's
called the advertising agent. He like, shit, we could do that.
I'm like, Dug, Like, that's what I'm getting at. So
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if we had an ad agency, what what we call it?
Con creates convicts that create?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Whoa con create? I like that? I like that fire.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
So we start looking at each other differently, right. I
didn't look at him as a bank robber anymore. I
started looking at him as a strategist.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Benson wasn't a drug dealer, he was a logistics expert.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Operations, right, So, how do we start looking at these
tattoo artists in there as art directors? How do we
look at these dudes that rap as copywriters? How do
we start looking at these individuals skills that they possessed,
and how can we transfer that into this ya space?
Come on, so fast forward. I get out of prison
(10:04):
March first, twenty sixteen, where I joined this prisoner entrepreneurship
program called the Five Ventures, learn the fundamentals and starting
the business, all the legalities, all of that, and start
knocking on doors. I'm banging on doors. Hey, I got
this dope agency. All my dudes is dope. You know whatever?
Twenty two hundred people told me No. One of my
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mentors in that program introduced me to a British guy
named Tim Jones over at seventy two one Sonny, which
is a global advertising agency. They believed in us, They
got behind us, they helped us with our digital identity,
turned around and launched us into the media, and then
we went what the kids called viral ever since then.
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I mean, our first client was a small little record
label called rock Nation.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
That was our first client, and so from there it
became you know, Facebook beclaimed, Google, Shame United, Wow, indeed
Trojan And we're solely powered by incarcerated and formerly incarcerated
men and women to come up with these radical ideas. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That I have a moment for that. That is powerful.
And I hear female voices jumped in here. Hey, fellas,
we've just been joined by Stray of Black Strail Black.
He is funny. Stand up. I met you guys before.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I was so excited about seeing you guys again, well,
you know, talking with you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
When y'all came on the morning show. That's my co host.
He said, why was you late?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, because I had to go get my five year old.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Unfortunately about the kids.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, he can't walk home yet not you know nine
times we walked home. He can't walk home?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, no, no, we was his age.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Well, not only was walking home, we was walking to
the store with a letter, cigarette bits and it had
just men thought it was a whole different.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Chris, your brothers and a quart of button miss.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Story, y'all story needs to be told.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
And I'm so glad that Mike you're yo, because for
me to hear how you all did it and the way,
and it was really how you started viewing other people
when uh, I used to teach school, right, and so
the kids that would be in the bathroom shoot dice,
the school would be.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Like, we've got to expel them.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'm like, why, they're good and probability.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
Mad, But but but that, but but we as a society,
we usually look at people and go, oh, that's terrible,
not terrible.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
If you knew if the kids that was cooking up dope,
I said, dude, get them, get them in the chemistry. Yeah,
these kids know something, they just don't know how to structure.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
It, how to apply it.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Tell them all the time that dude King von king
vol was supposed to be a military expert.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
He was.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
He was up there with sun Zoo with his bravery
and what he had in his heart. It was just
natural skill set. He didn't know how to apply it
because it was an environment. I guarant his ass would
have been forced or if he would have went to
the Air Force or somewhere he got mindset.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
And you ever heard y'all remember when they used to
say knowledge is power. They still say that's not the proof, right,
The application of knowledges were.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
The proper application. Y'all better come on to fuck with
them words. We'll be right, Black, We gotta take good break,
a quick break something to somebody, but we will be
right and we're back and you can tell us right
(13:58):
now what he used to be. Hey, Michael talks to
everybody today. My guests are fantastic man is Vincent, Vincent Bragg,
and Joe Nixon, two awesome entrepreneurs with hellified stories. And
we're joined today by Austraya Black, the crew member, and
my nephew Derek Keina. Hey, guys, where do we leave
(14:18):
off now?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I was just gonna say, when you used to come
into the joint, like we used to be on our
best behavior. We see somebody fucking up, like, man, you
better clean that shit up. Bro, you better make your bed,
Like you know what I'm saying, You're gonna fuck up
the comedy.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Show Way, Vincent, for those who are listening, tell people
explain and elaborate on that you had visitors come, but
explain about it.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
So the way we end up meeting Michael was he
used to do something called comics go to jail, and
they used to come into the prison that we were
all at and mind you, this prison is like Harvard.
We got everybody's in here. It's former congressmen in here,
it's everybody's everybody.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It is federal prison.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Let me a lot, let me elaborate a little bit more.
There's a difference between state prison and federal prison. Vincent
and I were in federal prison. It's approximately it's approximately
two hundred and fifty thousand individuals.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
That is the all star team of criminality. Okay, now
back to you.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
All right. So he used to come in and he
used to do this this thing where he would bring
you know, five six comedians in for about an hour
and a half, two hours where we we we weren't
in jail. Now, you gotta remember, for me on the outside,
I go to comedy shows because this is I like
to laugh, right, So I already liked to do this.
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So this is an event for us. We cooking, they
making whoge this all kind of shit going on. We
finel really, we finla really not be in jail right now,
you know what I'm saying. And so it was so
impactful for us because you know, for that two hours,
we weren't locked up. You know what I'm saying you
could escape. You ain't like with no drugs, no, nothing
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like that was this was we're we're outside, vin. Let
me ask you.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Did you and Joe know each other before uh imprisonment?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We actually went to the same high school. We didn't
know each other, we knew of each other, so we
we were we were them kids that got busted, you know,
to to the to the.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Other bust the places.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Look, you know what I'm saying. Like, so yeah, we
went to the same high school. We knew each other,
just not new.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But they didn't go in together, did you. You didn't
come into the field into the pen together.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
We just ended up at the at Harvard.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
So y'all was like Doctor cad Is, like they went
to school together, but they our high school was like that.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
It was Birmingham High School in the valley like t
and Tamara, Mary went Theremaine Jackson kids.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was it was a whole another bar game.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So inside, inside is where you guys got together. This
is when y'all was locked up, and that's when y'all
got together, put your heads together.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Our whole squad or it wasn't just me and him
and we had It was a team of as. So
you know my brother Ricky Coley. You know, we had
Christopher Jamison, even Jonathan from me Undie, Jonathan Schoker. We
were like our own little squad because that was our crew.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So are these major league? Are these major league criminals?
I should know these names.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Exception with the exception of Jonathan was a victim of
of of government circumstance, but it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Was a part of our as was Joe and Vincent
because they were never caught that.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'm still on. I just got some meal
right now. Talk about mister Nixon. Stop wasting this paper
I want. I'm still filing the pill.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Damn, you ain't even in there, and you fowling the pills.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
He falling from motions. He know, he ain't gonna give no.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Care. Well, you gotta do something with your shoot.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
My shot. It's said drugs minus two. You ain't even
in here for drugs, said ship.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They might.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
They might be rubber staffing. It's a thousand emotions going on.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They might.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
You never know. He gonna tell me. No, y'all not
gonna tell me now for real.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I love it, Austraia. What you got baby?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So I just have another question. So after the you know,
after the first person said no and then the next
person said yes. What was the moment where you guys said, Okay,
we're really about to take it to the next level.
I mean, because you know, rock Nation, Rocking Fille, let's
be But where you and him was like, Okay, we're
really about to take this to the next level.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
After we went to therapy, Yeah, I'm gonna put it
to you like this, and I ain't again, we ain't
about to kiv d nothing. Right, But these incidentss kept
happening where you know, it would trigger us to a
to a prison style reaction, right, meaning I'm gonna slap
the shit out you if you do that again type
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shit or say one more thing and I'm gonna smack
the shit. It just be getting triggered by this natural
prison thing, right. And so I had did this speaking
engagement for this women's conference out in Chicago, and one
of my good friends now used to work at Facebook,
but she used to teach this class called Feeling Feelings
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at work, so's it would help you process weird emotions
or whatever. Right, And so when we trying to land
Facebook as a client, we had came to each other
and was like, because we'd have to do this in prison.
You don't want to just go to a guard and
be like, you know, I got two thousand dollars for
you to bring me such and such. You know what
I'm saying, like a relationship and a rapport with this
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human being. So we kind of took that same approach
to how we do business with the folks. And so
we didn't pitch Facebook on our great idea to have
an agency. We pitched Joyce chen on, can you bring
this to our people right, because we don't have the
tools to skill set to not slap the shit out
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of somebody when when it happens. And so once we
got those tools and we started realizing, oh we can
conflict resolution, we can you know what I'm saying, navigate,
Oh it's shit about to go to the moon.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It was about to go to the moon.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's because we know, like the situational things when we
know it made me feel the stories I made up
in my head, all of these proper terms when they're
going actually lie, it's priceless.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Now you can't you can't beat it. So like one
of the things that he's explaining is like, so what
you say, is some sit like this, like the the
facts are let's just say the facts are stray. You
were late, right, that's the that's hard. That's the same
right now right, I feel angry or disrespected. And the
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story that I made up in my mind is that
you don't respect mine and Joe's time. There's nothing you
could really say but like damn, like that wasn't my
intention or what. But we can have a real dialogue
instead of me going at you saying and you was
all of that. So we once we got them tools
to the.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Now you know how to talk. Now you're how to
communicate with each other.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Either one of you guys single, because now you're talking
like in the way I mean not not I'm not
moment what you're talking. Women, No, no, no, I just
want to tell you how you and Joe are talking.
Women really need to know that it's men who don't
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mind still being the man men, you know. Women need
to know that it's men who you know, don't mind
taking the lead.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Basically, Wow, well I feel you, because I feel you.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
The story I made up in my mom was.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Just talking to some of them.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
But that's that's what the All Star.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
First of all, if we want to be corrected, we
know this is a black lot of hood life. They
went to the All Star League, so you know we
call it the fads and women.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Who like street men we like me.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
That that's ok.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That means that he wasn't no dumb He was a
smart criminal.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
And when this moved his hand across the screen as
he was talking about smacking the ship, that's somebody, I was.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Like, you don't want them problems.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Like I ain't even built like that. I got a
false sisters, my grandma.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh not for a woman I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Oh, I wasn't talking about on the woman.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I'm talking about when you were staying in prison, whenever
you were talking to somebody.
Speaker 10 (22:38):
And he was like, yo, I feel like you. And
if you say one more thing when I say I
don't lie about ship, that I'm gonna smack about ship.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
So hey, I can see here.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay, So now we see who you are. You guys. Uh,
First of all, you're great men. See, black men are rare.
Let me just say that first man, Black men are
rare these days now, niggas they everywhere. You can open
the glove compartment of your car and four niggas fall out.
But men, black men who have integrity for their community,
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for their family, for themselves, for their God very rare indeed.
So what's cool as I'm dealing with two black men,
you know, and you.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Are dealing with two black men, and it's amazing that
you have two brothers on here. And let me say
this here as a man to love old men, let
me let me say that I'm saying this in such
a positive way. Heymen, these brothers, these brothers, they got
great but they look youthful, got great smiles.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They look like they still take they take care of it.
You know what I'm saying. Man, These brother.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Vincent looked like Buddha with a beer.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Beer.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He's got that peaceful face.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
That college guys.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Like you got to think about it.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
There's no worry.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
But but I want to hear more about this name
as well, and also that a T shirt that you
wear Jay the con Create, if that's all right, Uncle Mike,
I want to I want to hear about that name.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Because that it's a very dope name.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I love the name it.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
It even goes deeper than that because the Latin or
origin con means with no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It has alternate, alternate meanings. It's just really so deep.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
The Arcade definition of con creates means to create together.
And so when you think about co O n meaning
with it means to create together or with we just
happen to, it's like a triple entendre. We just happened.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It is the.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Apparel for the public to purchase. It's coming when the
TV show come out.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
But we gotta we have a TV shows a lot
of Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Joe, you make the ship look good.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Shirt on you.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I thought he was an athlete. That's all.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I was just saying.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I just see a movie, like I see a movie
for it. I mean just meeting them, visiting Joe. Their
personality is like piercing through the conversation and it seems
like a movie. It seems like something that people will
want to watch, if not a movie, a series, something
that a person to keep going because it's so many
you know, feel us to your story.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You have more you know being there and then you
got out.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Things you know, you got successful and then you know
everyday life that still happens with you guys. So I
just think a movie is coming along, and I take
my fondest fee laid on too.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
It's so she said.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And let the Lord say, oh be, we shall be
on telew and so that we can be descriptive.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Man, Joe looks like a healthy version of Gilly the Kid.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
The text really right now, box a while the healthy
version of this over.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
With Joe Joe. Okay, we're all out of time. I'm sorry.
Thirty minutes goes fast as hell. I just want to
recap our story. I met these two gentlemen at Terminal
Island Federal Penitentiary. Didn't know them from Adam. We did
our comedy. Years later, they come back and speak to me.
(26:28):
Come to find out they were sharp to start with,
though I don't know how they ever got caught and
they met, they got told on. Ain't that's some ship.
I hate a fucking schnech anyway they get I ain't
snitching in my family. We don't even know what a
slapper cousin a sister. You wasn't told about the ice
cream bitch, you know, didn't even didn't even get caught
(26:52):
did They time re met each other, reacquainted with each other,
realized the importance of life that they could build building
an empire, working with the same people they've dealt with
and hung out with as they went through this institution.
So you took a diamond in the rough and you
shine that baby up. So now it's sparkling bright like
a diamond, as my girl would say. And my great pleasures.
(27:15):
I got a chance to meet you guys that we
got to come in do jokes once a month, and
you guys realize, not because of us, because of yourselves,
that there was something greater than being in there. So
you guys don't have to go back. And only do
you not have to go back, you're teaching other people
that once you come out you and you got to
go back, you can find something greater and turn your
lives around. We got to experience that with you. I
(27:36):
feel honored to know you guys, and I thank you,
thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I really appreciate it. Two things, y'all gotta write the book.
You gotta do the movie. Your fucking story is off
the chain. Your story is fantastic. It's amazing, it's amazing,
and it's empowering. It makes me feel proud to be
a black man. Knowing that you're a part of my tribe.
Thank you all so much.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
You just made all sentimental and shit, we got to
jim everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You know what I'm saying. Don't trust nobody but your mama,
and then cut the deck. Don't get show started, gentlemen,
tell us how we can find you, How people can
find you, because somebody needs to find you and write
this story and do the movie. Go ahead, how we
find you.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
So CON creates everything, is, concreates email, is info, at
con creates, con creates on all social media platforms and
c O about to the r E the number eight.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
You'll be fucking us. She'll be saying, I'm about to. Damn,
I'm about to, she said, and he was on the sea.
I tell you tom sho, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
It's all social media. C O n E r E
the number eight t E s now concreates dot com
c O n c r e a t E s
dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So we know how to reach y'all.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
If you google us, you're.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Gonna see a whole lot of ship because we don't
ran our laps, we don't want awards and all kinds
of ship.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So just google how they google you, how they google
you at concrete, Concrete.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Up either one of our names and concreatetions. We gonna
It's gonna go big.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I love that, Okay, tell people they can find you.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Derek Well, y'all can find me trying to beat h
Darren Diligence record.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
You can also.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
Also see me find me doing a new interview with
Q E B. And I'm the new Uh, I'm the
new uh snitch man.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Snitch man. Yeah that's me.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
No, so you.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
I'm on social media at Derek Keener cousin Derek on
Instagram and oh the Michael Talks Day Everybody podcast from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Woo woo woom Austraya. Tell people they can find you well.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You can find me on all social media platforms Astrilia,
Black Funny, and you also can find me Monday through
Friday on the Michael Kaya Morning Show.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Boom right there. Hey, y'all, We love y'all. We appreciate y'all.
Michael Talks to everybody. I'm still waiting for your mama
to call me, so listen. We have three new shows
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Remember life as a garden. If you dig it, I
(30:42):
dig it. Keep God first. I'll talk to you later.
I'm your boy, Michael Kaya, and I'm out woo. I
had a good time today. I hope y'all did too. Man,
Thank y'all for checking us out here at Michael talks
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(31:02):
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(31:23):
I'll take your bus transfer if you's got some time
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kya morning show that's seven a m. Pacific time, yo,
five days a week. This has been a ray Lock
Group production. I see y'all later.
M hm, y'all ready, let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, so missus, Michael called this world, started doing venice peach.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Now he reached in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
He'll make you laught ticket, stomach car, superfly, nice guys
praying to me, trust to old he ain't ready for
the star searching winter and oh g three times this
ain't gonna beginning. Whether you want your house, you want
your brother's a dinner on your job and your brother
that I mean, it's a call.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Michael Talks said, everybody to call Michael Taus. That everybody
like to call Michael Taus.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That everybody you know what SHA called Michael Fox said,
everybody I called Michael Talks and everybody Michael.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
To say my body, everybody, everybody don't call Yeah, Hi,
yes sir, it's your boy Michael. Hey, everybody, Michael talks
to everybody. One day I might even talk to you. Well,
today I'm very excited to have two friends here. Who's
gonna talk to about an experience that we shared together,
(01:04):
two great young gentlemen and one of the wonderful Vincent Bragg,
and also Joe Nixon. We knew each other years ago,
and then we just ran back into each other like
a few weeks ago, and we're gonna be sharing remembrances today.
I'm gonna let you tell I'm gonna let them tell
you what it's all about. And my guest, my crew
(01:25):
member today is my cousin. Cousin Derek was really my nephew,
the great Derek Keena out of Arkansas comedian actor Park
exe Line. Welcome Derek, Welcome Vincent, and welcome Joe. Welcome
all y'all to the show of shows. Michael talks to everybody.
When I say everybody, you know, I even talked to
motherfucking convicts. I'm that kind of nigga. I'm just playing.
(01:49):
I'm just playing both of these gentlemen. I met Internal
Island Prison when I would go in and take comedy
shows and for like fourteen years with a thing called comics,
go to jail and I would take five comedians. Once
a month. They let us in and we go to
the prison door hour and a half free for the inmates.
We were there to try to remind the gentleman that
(02:09):
just because your body like down, don't mean you ain't free.
You know, if your spirit is free, you can soar
and fly and create all kinds of things, and sometimes
in these type of institutions, they don't want you to
have anything creative. They just want you to just they're
not trying to rehabilitate. They do know that shit. They're
just trying to babysit and keep you still and that
kind of thing. So when we was coming, it was
kind of a joy for them. They really enjoyed it.
(02:31):
I know we got a lot of it out of it.
All the comics felt great to perform to such a
captive audience. And and so let me.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
But that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Had let me introduce two guys who took their lives
and did something with it. Because I hate ricidivism. I
hate the idea of we go to prison, we come
right back next week. It's like a revolving door. I
love it when guys get out and they realized they
wasted They fucking damn spend all that time sitting around
other people who ain't doing shit with daytime. I like
(03:07):
it when they get out and it turned around and
turned into a life. These gentlemen are now entrepreneurs and
very successful, and now we get to hear their story.
Vincent Bragg and Joe Nixon. Hi, guys, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Thank you for having us. Brother. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Man, thank you for having us. Man.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
When y'all walked up to me, we were that p
diddies function. What is it called.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
The Revote World Summit?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The Revote World Summit, And I saw you guys in
the street. You walked up to me and you recounted
your story. Can y'all share something? Wait before we talk
about our relationship, tell me how y'all got interm of
the island in the first place.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
What did y'all do or can you tell.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What y'all do? Vincent Bragg, what did you do?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Okay, So, once upon a time, in a lifetime not
long ago, I happen felt alive the cocaine my friend knew.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I recognized you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
I in a former lifetime, I allegedly successfully robbed twenty
seven banks by the age of twenty two.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Damn, I should have rolled with you, nicks.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Okay, all right about wow, allegedly, my ass when you
would pat a specific number, or as my mama will say,
a Pacific number, a Pacific number.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, so you must have been pretty good to have
got away with it that many times before you get caught,
and to be so young, you must have had a system.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Well, first off, he never got caught.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I never got caught. Yeah, I don't get that to us.
And I got apprehended from West Los Angeles College. I
start selling weed after that because I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I was good. I beat John Dillinger's record.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
If you know who John Dillondre is, he robbed twenty
three banks, I robbed twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
The legend you.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Never get for that.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
I never got taught either, Uncle Mike, and I want
to I want to stop asking him this ship right now,
for they both end up like keithy D.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We're done asking.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
And we want talking about this morning.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
This nigga, keep you d moved to jail, places to
move to move phrase where he got the case.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'm gonna try to jail nigga.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
This nigga he had an apartment. He had an apartment
on the same block as the jail nigga.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I'm sorry that ship, dude. I was like, let's stop, right,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Feeling the United States of America right, they frowned upon
said behaviors and put us on what we like to
call an adult time out. So we end up in
federal prison where you know, we got smart, right, We
studied the law and corporate law, real estate law. We
(06:10):
read a bunch of books. We wrote some books, hosted
cancer walks, think tanks, launch businesses from from inside of there.
And I'll let him tell this story. But one day
we happened to be in the TV room watching TV
and we kept seeing the same news story on all
the TV. So if you if you know anything about prison,
(06:32):
it's four TVs in the TV room. One is on Sports,
one is on CNN, one is miscellaneous, the other is
you know, on b TV. Right, it's gonna watch music
videos and shit right right right. So we keep seeing
the same story on there, and that story is.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Star running back from the Dallas Cowboys has been arrested
for a still in underwear. Made no sense to me,
So we dig into the story some more, because you know,
we're investigating, we want to know all of the details.
While we get into the story, he's actually been in
this Dallas mall shopping all day. He had his son
with him. His son was going through his terrible tools
(07:17):
to calming down. He takes him outside. Well, he forgets
to pay for two items, one which happens to be
a pair of Ralph Warren underwear well Lo and behold,
we happen to be incarcerated with the founder of a
startup underwear company called me Andy's right. I said, listen, bro,
I don't know what you know, but I know right now,
you need to.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Attach yourself to this situation.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
If we get in here, if we pay for his fine,
turn this the negative into a positive, you'll be on
the map. So after a couple of days of trying
to twist his teams on because imagine him telling his
team he's taking advice from someone for prison. So after
we do this, we do this is on a Thursday,
and we pull the trigger Sunday morning.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
We have the money.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Before go and we wake up and Stephen A. Smiths's
reporting Adam Schefter and it's what the kids called viral.
And that's when we have on ahamong We're like, oh, ship,
so we have this this thing, and it's time to celebrate.
And when we celebrate, you know, like we would do
when you would come in with your comedy shows, we
would make a big deal, like we would really cook,
go get all the vegetables, do it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Do to do to do it big.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
So we're looking for Vincent to come and do such
because he's in a different building, and we put an
ap b out and I'll pass this part of the
story back to hell.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
So they looking for me. I had what I what
they like to call the Moses moment, you know what
I'm saying. So I'm on the mountain in my whole
little unit mapping this ship out, like, okay, we could
be doing this. So I come down finally to go cook.
I asked Joe. I'm like, so when you see a
McDonald's commercial, who you think doing that? His answer he
(08:59):
said McDonald's. And I'm like, no one who making the commercials?
And I said no. They hire people to come up
with these ideas, production companies to shoot the thing. It's
called the advertising agent. He like, shit, we could do that.
I'm like, Dug, Like, that's what I'm getting at. So
(09:21):
if we had an ad agency, what what we call it?
Con creates convicts that create?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Whoa con create? I like that? I like that fire.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
So we start looking at each other differently, right. I
didn't look at him as a bank robber anymore. I
started looking at him as a strategist.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Benson wasn't a drug dealer, he was a logistics expert.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Operations, right, So, how do we start looking at these
tattoo artists in there as art directors? How do we
look at these dudes that rap as copywriters? How do
we start looking at these individuals skills that they possessed,
and how can we transfer that into this ya space?
Come on, so fast forward. I get out of prison
(10:04):
March first, twenty sixteen, where I joined this prisoner entrepreneurship
program called the Five Ventures, learn the fundamentals and starting
the business, all the legalities, all of that, and start
knocking on doors. I'm banging on doors. Hey, I got
this dope agency. All my dudes is dope. You know whatever?
Twenty two hundred people told me No. One of my
(10:25):
mentors in that program introduced me to a British guy
named Tim Jones over at seventy two one Sonny, which
is a global advertising agency. They believed in us, They
got behind us, they helped us with our digital identity,
turned around and launched us into the media, and then
we went what the kids called viral ever since then.
(10:45):
I mean, our first client was a small little record
label called rock Nation.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
That was our first client, and so from there it
became you know, Facebook beclaimed, Google, Shame United, Wow, indeed
Trojan And we're solely powered by incarcerated and formerly incarcerated
men and women to come up with these radical ideas. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That I have a moment for that. That is powerful.
And I hear female voices jumped in here. Hey, fellas,
we've just been joined by Stray of Black Strail Black.
He is funny. Stand up. I met you guys before.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I was so excited about seeing you guys again, well,
you know, talking with you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
When y'all came on the morning show. That's my co host.
He said, why was you late?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, because I had to go get my five year old.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Unfortunately about the kids.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, he can't walk home yet not you know nine
times we walked home. He can't walk home?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, no, no, we was his age.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Well, not only was walking home, we was walking to
the store with a letter, cigarette bits and it had
just men thought it was a whole different.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Chris, your brothers and a quart of button miss.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Story, y'all story needs to be told.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
And I'm so glad that Mike you're yo, because for
me to hear how you all did it and the way,
and it was really how you started viewing other people
when uh, I used to teach school, right, and so
the kids that would be in the bathroom shoot dice,
the school would be.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Like, we've got to expel them.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'm like, why, they're good and probability.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
Mad, But but but that, but but we as a society,
we usually look at people and go, oh, that's terrible,
not terrible.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
If you knew if the kids that was cooking up dope,
I said, dude, get them, get them in the chemistry. Yeah,
these kids know something, they just don't know how to structure.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
It, how to apply it.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Tell them all the time that dude King von king
vol was supposed to be a military expert.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
He was.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
He was up there with sun Zoo with his bravery
and what he had in his heart. It was just
natural skill set. He didn't know how to apply it
because it was an environment. I guarant his ass would
have been forced or if he would have went to
the Air Force or somewhere he got mindset.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
And you ever heard y'all remember when they used to
say knowledge is power. They still say that's not the proof, right,
The application of knowledges were.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
The proper application. Y'all better come on to fuck with
them words. We'll be right, Black, We gotta take good break,
a quick break something to somebody, but we will be
right and we're back and you can tell us right
(13:58):
now what he used to be. Hey, Michael talks to
everybody today. My guests are fantastic man is Vincent, Vincent Bragg,
and Joe Nixon, two awesome entrepreneurs with hellified stories. And
we're joined today by Austraya Black, the crew member, and
my nephew Derek Keina. Hey, guys, where do we leave
(14:18):
off now?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I was just gonna say, when you used to come
into the joint, like we used to be on our
best behavior. We see somebody fucking up, like, man, you
better clean that shit up. Bro, you better make your bed,
Like you know what I'm saying, You're gonna fuck up
the comedy.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Show Way, Vincent, for those who are listening, tell people
explain and elaborate on that you had visitors come, but
explain about it.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
So the way we end up meeting Michael was he
used to do something called comics go to jail, and
they used to come into the prison that we were
all at and mind you, this prison is like Harvard.
We got everybody's in here. It's former congressmen in here,
it's everybody's everybody.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It is federal prison.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Let me a lot, let me elaborate a little bit more.
There's a difference between state prison and federal prison. Vincent
and I were in federal prison. It's approximately it's approximately
two hundred and fifty thousand individuals.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
That is the all star team of criminality. Okay, now
back to you.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
All right. So he used to come in and he
used to do this this thing where he would bring
you know, five six comedians in for about an hour
and a half, two hours where we we we weren't
in jail. Now, you gotta remember, for me on the outside,
I go to comedy shows because this is I like
to laugh, right, So I already liked to do this.
(15:42):
So this is an event for us. We cooking, they
making whoge this all kind of shit going on. We
finel really, we finla really not be in jail right now,
you know what I'm saying. And so it was so
impactful for us because you know, for that two hours,
we weren't locked up. You know what I'm saying you
could escape. You ain't like with no drugs, no, nothing
(16:06):
like that was this was we're we're outside, vin. Let
me ask you.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Did you and Joe know each other before uh imprisonment?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We actually went to the same high school. We didn't
know each other, we knew of each other, so we
we were we were them kids that got busted, you know,
to to the to the.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Other bust the places.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Look, you know what I'm saying. Like, so yeah, we
went to the same high school. We knew each other,
just not new.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But they didn't go in together, did you. You didn't
come into the field into the pen together.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
We just ended up at the at Harvard.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
So y'all was like Doctor cad Is, like they went
to school together, but they our high school was like that.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
It was Birmingham High School in the valley like t
and Tamara, Mary went Theremaine Jackson kids.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was it was a whole another bar game.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So inside, inside is where you guys got together. This
is when y'all was locked up, and that's when y'all
got together, put your heads together.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Our whole squad or it wasn't just me and him
and we had It was a team of as. So
you know my brother Ricky Coley. You know, we had
Christopher Jamison, even Jonathan from me Undie, Jonathan Schoker. We
were like our own little squad because that was our crew.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So are these major league? Are these major league criminals?
I should know these names.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Exception with the exception of Jonathan was a victim of
of of government circumstance, but it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Was a part of our as was Joe and Vincent
because they were never caught that.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'm still on. I just got some meal
right now. Talk about mister Nixon. Stop wasting this paper
I want. I'm still filing the pill.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Damn, you ain't even in there, and you fowling the pills.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
He falling from motions. He know, he ain't gonna give no.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Care. Well, you gotta do something with your shoot.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
My shot. It's said drugs minus two. You ain't even
in here for drugs, said ship.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They might.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
They might be rubber staffing. It's a thousand emotions going on.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They might.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
You never know. He gonna tell me. No, y'all not
gonna tell me now for real.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I love it, Austraia. What you got baby?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So I just have another question. So after the you know,
after the first person said no and then the next
person said yes. What was the moment where you guys said, Okay,
we're really about to take it to the next level.
I mean, because you know, rock Nation, Rocking Fille, let's
be But where you and him was like, Okay, we're
really about to take this to the next level.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
After we went to therapy, Yeah, I'm gonna put it
to you like this, and I ain't again, we ain't
about to kiv d nothing. Right, But these incidentss kept
happening where you know, it would trigger us to a
to a prison style reaction, right, meaning I'm gonna slap
the shit out you if you do that again type
(18:55):
shit or say one more thing and I'm gonna smack
the shit. It just be getting triggered by this natural
prison thing, right. And so I had did this speaking
engagement for this women's conference out in Chicago, and one
of my good friends now used to work at Facebook,
but she used to teach this class called Feeling Feelings
(19:18):
at work, so's it would help you process weird emotions
or whatever. Right, And so when we trying to land
Facebook as a client, we had came to each other
and was like, because we'd have to do this in prison.
You don't want to just go to a guard and
be like, you know, I got two thousand dollars for
you to bring me such and such. You know what
I'm saying, like a relationship and a rapport with this
(19:42):
human being. So we kind of took that same approach
to how we do business with the folks. And so
we didn't pitch Facebook on our great idea to have
an agency. We pitched Joyce chen on, can you bring
this to our people right, because we don't have the
tools to skill set to not slap the shit out
(20:02):
of somebody when when it happens. And so once we
got those tools and we started realizing, oh we can
conflict resolution, we can you know what I'm saying, navigate,
Oh it's shit about to go to the moon.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It was about to go to the moon.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's because we know, like the situational things when we
know it made me feel the stories I made up
in my head, all of these proper terms when they're
going actually lie, it's priceless.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Now you can't you can't beat it. So like one
of the things that he's explaining is like, so what
you say, is some sit like this, like the the
facts are let's just say the facts are stray. You
were late, right, that's the that's hard. That's the same
right now right, I feel angry or disrespected. And the
(20:50):
story that I made up in my mind is that
you don't respect mine and Joe's time. There's nothing you
could really say but like damn, like that wasn't my
intention or what. But we can have a real dialogue
instead of me going at you saying and you was
all of that. So we once we got them tools
to the.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Now you know how to talk. Now you're how to
communicate with each other.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Either one of you guys single, because now you're talking
like in the way I mean not not I'm not
moment what you're talking. Women, No, no, no, I just
want to tell you how you and Joe are talking.
Women really need to know that it's men who don't
(21:33):
mind still being the man men, you know. Women need
to know that it's men who you know, don't mind
taking the lead.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Basically, Wow, well I feel you, because I feel you.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
The story I made up in my mom was.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Just talking to some of them.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
But that's that's what the All Star.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
First of all, if we want to be corrected, we
know this is a black lot of hood life. They
went to the All Star League, so you know we
call it the fads and women.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Who like street men we like me.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
That that's ok.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That means that he wasn't no dumb He was a
smart criminal.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
And when this moved his hand across the screen as
he was talking about smacking the ship, that's somebody, I was.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Like, you don't want them problems.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Like I ain't even built like that. I got a
false sisters, my grandma.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh not for a woman I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Oh, I wasn't talking about on the woman.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I'm talking about when you were staying in prison, whenever
you were talking to somebody.
Speaker 10 (22:38):
And he was like, yo, I feel like you. And
if you say one more thing when I say I
don't lie about ship, that I'm gonna smack about ship.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
So hey, I can see here.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay, So now we see who you are. You guys. Uh,
First of all, you're great men. See, black men are rare.
Let me just say that first man, Black men are
rare these days now, niggas they everywhere. You can open
the glove compartment of your car and four niggas fall out.
But men, black men who have integrity for their community,
(23:23):
for their family, for themselves, for their God very rare indeed.
So what's cool as I'm dealing with two black men,
you know, and you.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Are dealing with two black men, and it's amazing that
you have two brothers on here. And let me say
this here as a man to love old men, let
me let me say that I'm saying this in such
a positive way. Heymen, these brothers, these brothers, they got
great but they look youthful, got great smiles.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They look like they still take they take care of it.
You know what I'm saying. Man, These brother.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Vincent looked like Buddha with a beer.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Beer.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He's got that peaceful face.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
That college guys.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Like you got to think about it.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
There's no worry.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
But but I want to hear more about this name
as well, and also that a T shirt that you
wear Jay the con Create, if that's all right, Uncle Mike,
I want to I want to hear about that name.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Because that it's a very dope name.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I love the name it.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
It even goes deeper than that because the Latin or
origin con means with no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It has alternate, alternate meanings. It's just really so deep.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
The Arcade definition of con creates means to create together.
And so when you think about co O n meaning
with it means to create together or with we just
happen to, it's like a triple entendre. We just happened.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It is the.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Apparel for the public to purchase. It's coming when the
TV show come out.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
But we gotta we have a TV shows a lot
of Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Joe, you make the ship look good.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Shirt on you.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I thought he was an athlete. That's all.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I was just saying.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I just see a movie, like I see a movie
for it. I mean just meeting them, visiting Joe. Their
personality is like piercing through the conversation and it seems
like a movie. It seems like something that people will
want to watch, if not a movie, a series, something
that a person to keep going because it's so many
you know, feel us to your story.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You have more you know being there and then you
got out.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Things you know, you got successful and then you know
everyday life that still happens with you guys. So I
just think a movie is coming along, and I take
my fondest fee laid on too.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
It's so she said.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And let the Lord say, oh be, we shall be
on telew and so that we can be descriptive.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Man, Joe looks like a healthy version of Gilly the Kid.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
The text really right now, box a while the healthy
version of this over.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
With Joe Joe. Okay, we're all out of time. I'm sorry.
Thirty minutes goes fast as hell. I just want to
recap our story. I met these two gentlemen at Terminal
Island Federal Penitentiary. Didn't know them from Adam. We did
our comedy. Years later, they come back and speak to me.
(26:28):
Come to find out they were sharp to start with,
though I don't know how they ever got caught and
they met, they got told on. Ain't that's some ship.
I hate a fucking schnech anyway they get I ain't
snitching in my family. We don't even know what a
slapper cousin a sister. You wasn't told about the ice
cream bitch, you know, didn't even didn't even get caught
(26:52):
did They time re met each other, reacquainted with each other,
realized the importance of life that they could build building
an empire, working with the same people they've dealt with
and hung out with as they went through this institution.
So you took a diamond in the rough and you
shine that baby up. So now it's sparkling bright like
a diamond, as my girl would say. And my great pleasures.
(27:15):
I got a chance to meet you guys that we
got to come in do jokes once a month, and
you guys realize, not because of us, because of yourselves,
that there was something greater than being in there. So
you guys don't have to go back. And only do
you not have to go back, you're teaching other people
that once you come out you and you got to
go back, you can find something greater and turn your
lives around. We got to experience that with you. I
(27:36):
feel honored to know you guys, and I thank you,
thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I really appreciate it. Two things, y'all gotta write the book.
You gotta do the movie. Your fucking story is off
the chain. Your story is fantastic. It's amazing, it's amazing,
and it's empowering. It makes me feel proud to be
a black man. Knowing that you're a part of my tribe.
Thank you all so much.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
You just made all sentimental and shit, we got to
jim everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You know what I'm saying. Don't trust nobody but your mama,
and then cut the deck. Don't get show started, gentlemen,
tell us how we can find you, How people can
find you, because somebody needs to find you and write
this story and do the movie. Go ahead, how we
find you.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
So CON creates everything, is, concreates email, is info, at
con creates, con creates on all social media platforms and
c O about to the r E the number eight.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
You'll be fucking us. She'll be saying, I'm about to. Damn,
I'm about to, she said, and he was on the sea.
I tell you tom sho, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
It's all social media. C O n E r E
the number eight t E s now concreates dot com
c O n c r e a t E s
dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So we know how to reach y'all.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
If you google us, you're.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Gonna see a whole lot of ship because we don't
ran our laps, we don't want awards and all kinds
of ship.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So just google how they google you, how they google
you at concrete, Concrete.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Up either one of our names and concreatetions. We gonna
It's gonna go big.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I love that, Okay, tell people they can find you.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Derek Well, y'all can find me trying to beat h
Darren Diligence record.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
You can also.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
Also see me find me doing a new interview with
Q E B. And I'm the new Uh, I'm the
new uh snitch man.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Snitch man. Yeah that's me.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
No, so you.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
I'm on social media at Derek Keener cousin Derek on
Instagram and oh the Michael Talks Day Everybody podcast from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Woo woo woom Austraya. Tell people they can find you well.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You can find me on all social media platforms Astrilia,
Black Funny, and you also can find me Monday through
Friday on the Michael Kaya Morning Show.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Boom right there. Hey, y'all, We love y'all. We appreciate y'all.
Michael Talks to everybody. I'm still waiting for your mama
to call me, so listen. We have three new shows
a week every week and five days a week we
do Michael Kaya Morning Show on YouTube. Follow us, send
us some money and shit, quit playing. Have an amazing day.
Remember life as a garden. If you dig it, I
(30:42):
dig it. Keep God first. I'll talk to you later.
I'm your boy, Michael Kaya, and I'm out woo. I
had a good time today. I hope y'all did too. Man,
Thank y'all for checking us out here at Michael talks
to everybody. Hey, you can follow me, man, I'm easy
to follow. I'm on Instagram, just under act Michael Kaya.
(31:02):
I'm on TikTok that's Michael Kaya one three five. I
have a very sexy web page called the Realmichael Kaye
dot com. You know, you go over there. You can
find out about my merchandise and what I'm doing and
where all my shows. Our airthing is right there. Or
if you really love me, you can go to my
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with y'all, but I accept green Stand foods and Canadian money.
(31:23):
I'll take your bus transfer if you's got some time
left on it. And my morning show, oh my, Michael
kya morning show that's seven a m. Pacific time, yo,
five days a week. This has been a ray Lock
Group production. I see y'all later.
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