November 13, 2023 • 31 mins
Today Michael talks to a brother who knows his black history. Does a deep knowledge of your roots give you greater access to your desired future? How much should it matter? Let’s talk about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M hm, who you all ready?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, so missus.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Michael called this world, started doing Venice peach. Now he
reached in the world.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
He'll make you left. Take the stomach cars, superfly, nice guy,
break it to me.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Trust he ain't ready for the star starts winner and
oh g three times this thing. Gonta get up whether
you win y' house, you want your brother out's a
dinner on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Your job and your brother. That I mean, it's a call.
Michael Taus said, everybody like to call Michael Taus.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
That everybody like to call Yes, Michael.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Taus, that everybody you know what shot.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Called Michael fuck to everybody to call Michael Taus.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
To everybody, Michael Fox said, my bridy, everybody, everybody call Hey, everybody,
welcome to Michael talks to everybody. I mean everybody. If
you've been following, man, we just talked to homeless dude.
I've been thirty minutes talking to a real homeless dude.
(01:01):
Learned some gems, man, a knowledge that I would never
learned from someone who hadn't had his experience. We interviewed
a crackhead. Well it was me that the interview, but
that's not the point. We still got the information out.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
This is all over.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
A bike.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Everybody come to Mike Show. Come to Mike Show. He said,
know that's you know. The funny thing is, I'm gonna
be real with you bike. You know. I used to
do what you wanna laugh at this. I was a
conscious dude who sold crack.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You know what I did, soul crack.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I sold it, bro, but you was conscious. Let me
tell you. Let me tell you this story behind us
even Okay, listen, Kevin Hart pop. We know that nigga.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Well, when he tells you about his pop that was real.
Kevin Hart's father was like that, Oh he was out
of his smoking.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You know he's from Sphelly. Yeah, he was from that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I don't know. I didn't know he was a smoker. Okay,
let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Let me tell you what happened. I used to sell
it to you to tell you to stop smoking.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Wow, this is not good for you. That's gonna be
four hundred no, but don't.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But the real rep it was so it was to
the point that I used to do it. Then I said,
I was like, damn. I used to be like, yo, man,
you should go home to your wife like I would
do a matter of fact here like it was weird.
Like I used to sit there and.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We'd a lot of the salesmen unconscious. I was told
many times, man, you shouldn't even be doing this shit. Man,
do you have a change for this? Hundred? Okay, So
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So it's part of our journey. Brother, It's like you
got to tell the good and the bad.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
That's why I love about what you do, because you
do tell what you want through you know, even your jokes,
because it's our experiences.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know what we go through in life, and it's
like yo, in some way, somehow you get a wake
upcast somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
It was probably when I got shot the second time,
because sometimes yeah, cause I got shot the first time
in the shootout.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, the second time the second time, will do it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
The second time was five times?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Right, you got shot five times?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah. I still have a bullet in my head in
one of my chests. So so sometimes people.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What is your relationship with God then? Or do you
have a higher source that you recognize?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
There is a higher band whatever you want to call him.
I don't give it a name, you know what I mean?
You know, my thing is like people say a load
just the Arabic word is just God, but it is
a higher supreme being. Somebody's watching over me.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But I can say this. When my brother got killed.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I was ten.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
My brother was twenty five. He got shot and killed
and thrown on the freeway in Colorado. And my mother
used to always say that my brother is watching over me.
Because when you when you now, my son is going
My son got killed in twenty twenty, right, So they
say a person leaves you, a person's working on the other.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Side for you.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Wow, I mean you have someone working on the other side.
So I got people working on both sides. So when
that happened to me, my mother used to always say
that my brother is watching you.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So I don't.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
So sometimes people got to take heed to these things.
When you go through these these devices, you know, just
using crack two. Some people may go through crack and
some people may slip back into it. If you don't
have the right person around.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
M or if you're in the wrong places, wrong where
you get that man, you get that feeling, you say, Man,
I'm smelling something I feel, can you follow me.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's the same thing with dealing with this whole You know.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Hey, folks, let me just tell y'all where y'all at.
Michael talks to everybody, and today I remember the conversation
with Severe Bay. Real black man actually knows our culture,
our history, and he ain't afraid to say it. Go ahead,
what was you saying, King?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
No, somebody, I'm laughing. Somebody used to be a conscious
crack crack deal drug deal.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I did. We all did. That's hilarious to me, No,
it is.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But it's real though, brother, But that was because I
was a young father.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Brother, Listen, I'm gonna be real and I say this
a lot, and this this is the journey, brother, where
I'm going at with this? Because when I was younger,
my first son, I was a teenager, Mike, when I
had my first son, my first son.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right right, hold on, let me ask you a question. Sure,
was I inviting you to the two o'clock or the
one o'clock?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was one?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, good, good good? Because the other person just popped in.
I'm like, where she going?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Incopa local works, geek op local?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Does it work? Though?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The loss?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I want to ask you about that? Does it work? Yeah?
Because I'd be having short term memory loss. See I
forgot the word loss. I mean a word memory loss.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm here with you. I'm here, bro.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I could be on the couch and I'll be running
the stairs against something. I get the top of the.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Stairs and be like, damn, what was I going coming
up here for?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Look? I looked for my glasses one day for twenty minutes.
I got frustrated. I want you to scratch my head.
The glasses was on my head. So yes, I think
I need to check out some gink go below. But
if you say it.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Work, somebody said I wasn't listen. This is the crazy part.
I wish people. They don't even know my life. People
don't even know my life unless you come from South Philadelphia.
That's like me telling me I know Mike Collier. I
don't know Mike Callier. I know know Mike Collier from Chicago,
but I know I've seen him and I've been in
his presence, not video.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But I know this sticker will fight you in a heartbeat,
no matter, Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You don't know Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
This is the thing, Mike.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
They think or believe that you do comedy or are
you a rapper that you don't you know what I mean,
like a real person can recognize a real person, Yes, sir,
a real person recognize your person. But what people try
to do is pull you back today you got me
into that state of mind or that think.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
They'll do little things.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You know what I mean, just the point. Even worse,
people try to keep you on the space where you
used to be exactly you ain't even no nomal And
that's how they approach you. They want you to still
be that person, to respond to those things and not.
You know, everything that happened ten minutes ago is already over.
You know, I'm moving forward to do all kinds of
(06:46):
new things. So if you think that's who I am, dude,
you're gonna be so confused, because that's not what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But he's he's still in you.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
He's still he scares a nice warm home. Now listen,
what is a King Alfie's plan?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
What is the King Office plan?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Is the Rex eighty four was written in nineteen sixty
seven sixty seven, sixty eight, which to control the population.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'll get you a copy next time I see you
out here. I'll make a copy. Matter of fact, yeah'll
make a copy, and I give it to you so.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
What control the population like the government did just now
when they created this virus. Try to knock a bunch
of people and saw the balance.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
All right, go ahead, control the media, control the education system,
control the money. All this was in the king Office plan.
Now this was fact I had to document probably twenty
eight years. It's four Who was he king?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
King? Yeah, who's King Golfer?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He was a European. It was a European dude.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
But it was a strategy that was over here in
the States also, like actually controlled it to get to
get rid of money and use credit.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Are they doing that to no?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Right, you go on to studios on some store, now
only will they not take the money? They say, please,
don't put that on counter, don't pick that up, don't
do that. I'm like this this money lady, and remember
in God us God, no, he ain't in here. I'll
get that off the counter.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I'm sorry, go ahead, you know, but this is what
is happening.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
It talks about the controled education of the children, and
it also talks about keep them distracted.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right we are, we are distracted. I mean you know,
if you ask me, I think Trump is a distraction.
I don't think anybody in the right man even expect
to get Trump back in the office. It's a distraction.
Watch They're gonna pull up some other food who they're
gonna celebrate, march down to the to the to the UH,
to the DC and make him your new president. Because
(08:35):
you ain't beaying no attention right now. You got this craziness,
this juggling act called Trump propaganda.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yes, indeed, he's the father of public relations man.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I hope you know that the government is monitor
your phone and these these airwaves. Everything we're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, Mike mean me, I mean you they watch Listen, listen.
Let me tell you something. The funny part with me
like I did radio for over twenty four years and feeling.
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
If somebody knock on my door, you know what I
would do if left. First of all, people got to
understand the fair's job. The fares investigate brother. That's the
If my brother did twenty two years in the federal prison,
you can look him up online. I'll say his name,
but you can look him up. The Feds investigate. They
never come after you unless they have contrary evidence.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Are you following me?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
They do not have a ninety nine percent conviction rate.
And they don't play games. They will actually investigate you
before they come at you. So I if you come
to me, because I studied mock them for so long,
you remember what a kid I don't know if you
remember they came to Malcolm X's house, go look up
the secret Go look up the secret recording with Malcolm X.
And Malcolm X asked, They said, tell us something about
Elijah Mahammon. He said, well, you want to know about him.
(09:50):
We're an open book, he said, And he tried to
offer him money. He said, people will accept money. He said, well,
your dollar bill is shrinking. He said, yo, Colum has
said that. So he said, you you will insult my
intelligence not to know what I'm say in advance. You
see how you will work with them. So if a
person comes to me and try to get anything out
of me, like asking me about you, you will be
insult in my intelligence not to know.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm not going to go against you. So I'm going
to ask you some questions. You see what I'm saying.
So I'm not concerned about none of this.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I walk at peace, brother, And this is why you
hear me say about God about who you believe in
the higher power?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's somebody out there. So why would I walk in
fear every day?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I can't see and me, I think my thing is
a little different. God is everything to me, and that's
why I walk every day with no fear. I think
one with God is the majority my faith. In fact,
me and God take on any of you. Mother anyway,
I'm just saying. I just know that there is a
source to create it, everything from nothingness, and it did
(10:51):
it in the name of love. And I really believe
that the universe is always conspiring for our good. Yes, yes, yes,
but I don't want to name I don't really want
to name it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Really, you don't have to name it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I and I, but I love me from Jesus Christ.
Thank you. I'm sorry. Go ahead, so let me ask
you this. So let me ask you this because you
are so.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You got excuse me, brother, because I'm laughing at the
same time, because this is the funny.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Say, you gotta have humor in this, man, you have
to have the humor in this.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But go ahead in life, man, you better have some
humor and better and my God has a sense of
you know, a great matter of fact, Look at some
of the people when you get on the plane, look
at some of these people sitting next to you. If
you don't laugh out loud, you don't get it. It's
some funny looking people.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is I didn't eve wanna say that. I don't say it.
I gonna call out a name of the comedian, but
I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it
because all I do is tell a joke about one
person and fifteen people call me. Oh man, y'all have
the beef. I don't beef for nobody.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't have beef for nobody cause I don't eat meat.
You know I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, that'll teach you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh here he goes, he gonna.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Because I don't have beet with nobody either, because I don't,
like I said, I don't eat meat, salt, have beef
with no brother.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm at peace with myself. You know.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I know I was. I was living with a vegan
my last relationship. You know, I was living with a vegan,
So I mean she was a brutal vegan too.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She would see me eating chicken. She'd be like, oh,
I see you eating caucaus today. And I was like, yeah,
I'm putting a barbecue sauce on that Caucasus too. Gonna
give me some potato salad, go with that thing, a
piece of bread. No, we get it. I know you're
a vegan, but I'm gonna tell you something that's a
secret that you probably don't know. This. We got to
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eat these animals. We got to eat these animals, sir. Look,
when I eat chicken, I am doing the Lord's work.
Let me explain this. God, God create everything with a purpose.
What's the purpose? What's the purpose of a chicken? It
was not to eat the chicken. Chicken aint gonna bring
in your newspaper. Chicken ain't gonna protect your house. You
can't even make a damn chicken. Goat when I eat
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a chicken, the Lord smiles. I'm sorry anyway, that's what I.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Want, dude.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I wouldn't eat it. I wouldn't eat it over here
in the States, I don't eat it at all. I
haven't ate meat and probably damn since I was Damn,
it's almost been thirty years.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Wow, Well I applaud you. You up. You have a
great constitution, brother, that you that you can make it
like that. I heard about that. That's a big word, though, listen,
a big word. Here's what I want to ask you,
serious business, because I hear you when you say what
we do to each other. I've been on this program
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for the longest, trying to do this thing to turn
around black on black crime in Chicago. I mean, we're
wiping each other out in Chicago. Mean, every weekend, thirty
forty people shooting in our community, killing each other, and
for no real purpose. There's nothing to gain from it
at all. It's not like you gain more territory, you
gain more money. I don't even know if you get
(13:58):
bragging points. I don't even know what it's about. But
we're knocking each other off. Do you see any solution
anyway to turn around black people killing black people? And
I keep seeing black people don't have to kill black people.
Police are doing that for us if we just be patient. Oh,
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Well no, no, no, I know I'm peeling you because
I asked myself these questions, and sometimes I'll be ready
to throw at a towel. I've been asked to go
back to Philly to do something in Philly because my
son was killed by my people. My show was shot
up what many times, almost ten.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Times by my people.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now what was he doing at the time.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
He wasn't doing nothing. But this is the thing about
social media. He was on social media.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
And sometimes it's a rift and a beef that's going
on in Philadelphia at this particular moment right well, speaking
on a lot of the dudes is locked up now.
But it's a rift in Philly. If anybody knows about Philly,
Philly is very small. South Philly is very small too.
And online and they caught him slipping.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He was high at night. They caught me slipping.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
And this is the thing about it, Like I know
my children, I know, I know him. My other son
is not into it like that. But this particular one
was trying to be in it, you know what I mean,
trying to follow what my family was doing. It was
like he would use the family as bragging rights for
certain things, you know what I mean. Or they would say,
you know in this and I'm just being real with
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you how it happened. So they would say, well, your
father used to do or your father used to you know,
this is what he was trying to hold up.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Like your father, yo, yo, your father was christ father.
You know, so he thought, you know, I mean he
had to prove something, but he didn't have to prove it.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
So I used to sit with him.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I went home brother for like three months to stay
with him, to keep them away from the streets. I
went to Philly and actually rent enough spot and keep them.
Call me you got taught me?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, And that's why I said, the most hurting thing, brother,
is to bury your child and you try to keep
them away from certain things.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I'm asking the question. And a couple of brothers from.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Philly children that got killed, and that's the wake up call.
It's because because of what we have done. Because it's
a karma thing, brother, and it's a karma thing that
if you don't straighten your life or or repent for
what you have done. Like me, I'm always like yo, bro,
like no, that's not cool. And I always try to
bree that olive branch, even with people with beef on
social media.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'm always there one that want to bring people together.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'm gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Let's tell somebody some soap or something. Hey, y'all, Michael
talks to everybody.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Were selling things, were taking a break, we'll be right back,
and we're black.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean, we're back. So you saying, tell me, what
are you talking about when you say it's a karma thing,
Because my understanding of karma is what goes around, comes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Around, comes around, and that's what it is. That's real talk.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It may not this is the weirdest thing ever. It
may not happen when you expected to happen. Because when
I got shot, Mike, I wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I was. I was really getting into this what you
would call conscious stuff, right.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And somebody just walked up and shot you for no reason.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
This is how it happened.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I was coming home from the gym and had a
ball head going to my mom house, and the dude
put up in a car and asked me where it was.
Twenty second in sumrset. This is in Philadelphia. Now, I
know Somerset. We sused to go up there and buy
stuff at there. You know what I mean, That's okay,
that's a drug area. So the dude, I said, no, rather,
I don't know what that you know, No, I don't know.
So when I saw the gun come up, I tried
(17:23):
to grab the gun from the dude, and that's when
he started shooting.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I got hit five out of the six.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But what happened, Well, he just shot you because you
didn't know where the place, so he was trying to
go with you.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I laughed at it, No, but I laughed.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Listen, when I was coming out through the elevator, my
mom got mad at me because my whole blanket was blood.
Blood was gushing out my chest. So my my mother
got mad at me because I had a smile on
my face. And I'm like, you know, because I wanted
to go to take the truth. But I just wanted
to leave the planet. Yeah, I was, let's not move
any faster. Why the hell would you want to leave
(17:59):
the planet.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me tell you something. It's not that I wanted
to leave by it was. I don't know what it was.
At the time. I was just done. I was finished.
I didn't want nothing. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
At that split second, because my adrenaline was already pumping,
I just left the gym and everything that hit me.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I thought about things I've done. I'm not gonna lie
till I was at the age of fifteen, s fold.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And all flash back your life.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It was like you know how those old vhs when
you were push the button and it's playing and you rewinded.
That's what was rewinded in my head. Every bullet that
hit me, everything that I have ever done was rewinded
in my head. So this is why I feel some
type of way when we kill each other, because I
know the pain. I know what people go through. I
know now even know to lose in my son. And
(18:45):
it's not the white man that's doing it. We're doing
it to each other. So if we're doing these things
to ourselves because we don't know history, you see what
I'm saying, All this goes back to history again with
the Moores. We sold ourselves out back then, and we're
still doing it today because if you look at it
right now, Mike, what did we see on that What
(19:06):
did we see on the radio, on TV?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And YouTube and Instagrams? You follow me? So now we're
on social media beefing with each other, letting the so
called white man, like you said, that's watching, he's sitting
back and watching who he can give the money to.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I'll give the money to him, to Mike, because Mike,
it's not like Sabir. We'll give you all the platforms
and give you all the publicity you know seeing because
he's not like Sabir. I'm supposed to be like a
radical person, but I'm not right.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Right, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm a piece of dude.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
But if you hear me speaking, I'm going to speak
the truth. So now that we're gonna push him out there,
we don't want him. And it's the same thing as
hip hop. We used to have ratchet hit, we had
hip hop'sill. First of all, let's kill us because it's
never been no such thing as gainst the rat. If
you want to talk about gainst the rap, you gotta
go back to school. He d in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Wow, okay, but there is really no.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Such thing as gangst the rap because gangsters wear suits.
So now we're looking at this. Used to be a
balancing hip hop. You had Wu Tang and you had
public Enemy, and you had n Wa.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You follow me, That's what it was. So now we're
going to only give you the negative. This is what's happening.
So now these young cats, because my son was like that.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
My son would come in the room and he would
listen to this bull and I'll be like, man, that
the hell off I was tell him this I was.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
He said no, Dad, you know I said no, turn
it off. It's a vibration. You see what I'm saying.
And people don't understand the vibration. When you see these videos,
all these music, they say kill kid, I'll be like,
how many times can you kill a person in a round?
You follow me?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
So now there are rather you know it or not,
it's in your subconscious mind. It's like the Viagra commercial
for instance. Right you ever see the Viagon commercial and
the dude sitting outside washing the car and the holes
is coming out and.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The woman upstairs in the window and the sid's supposed
to be something else.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Even he's smiling. They got you late at night, say
they got you. That's what they're doing is constant rotation.
And I'm looking at it on social media.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So now our children are watching this twenty four to seven,
and we're trying to immolate that that's not what it is.
So me trying to talk to my son. He think
I'm coming at him, and I'm like, no, this is
not what it is.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
It's only two places. You've already been in jail for
behind a lot of stuff, so the other only other places.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What we're six feet under. Yes, sir, my son is
sitting up here. His ashes is right there. I literally
still got his asses.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wow, are you gonna be cremated too? When you die?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Listen once, I'm going I don't care what you do
with me.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
M I do, I do, I do only cremated. I'm
gonna be cremating and throw me in and whoever the
biggest comedian of the day is just taking my ashes
and throw them in the fix. I'm sorry, I'm being silly. Listen.
How much of this do you think it's the hypnotization
of the music, Because I did. I think the hypnotization
of the music drowns out the bs that is being
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said underneath the Yes didn't I think the music is
so hot and so fly? Did you get into the
beat and you don't care You're talking about killing each other?
The niggas ain't ship and all that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know, that's what happens. Remember these stand songs called
message in the music?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, you know what I mean? They kill you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Gotta get with Kenny Gamble brother and talk with Kenny Gamble. Listen.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
When I go back to Philly, I'm gonna reach back
out to Kendy and you got it, brother, you gotta sit.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And if you did a music video for him.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He did a music video for Kenny Gamble, the first.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Music video I did. I can't relate the team, but
Gamble on Huff and we did Huff.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Brother, I don't know if you know that not't Oh
they was gangs. They sound like gangster not you never
you ever heard the story.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
You heard the story between Kenny Gamble, Lee Huff and
Teddy Penagraph.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Let me tell you the story behind this. You know
that that Teddy, Teddy's from Philly too. Teddy used to
beat up woman.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He used to beat up women.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Me tell you something, go through the research on me,
go talk to somebody from Philly. My mother knew his mother.
So this is how when they would come into Philly,
the mob was looking for Teddy. The mob was looking
for Teddy Pentagram. And you know what Kenny Gambleham said.
They wanted Teddy. He said, we not giving you Teddy,
We'll give you some money. That's what they told the
Philadelphia mob. Listen, Kenny Gamble, they didn't play these games. Brother,
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Them dudes was real. Dude, ain't no way in hell
we're going to give you Teddy crazy. And this is
during the time of the you know, Philly International. See,
people don't know the history about Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So it's a lot of stuff that the show on
just that because there's so much about it that that
whole gambling huff thing is a big empire. It's not
a little thing, you know, it's not small.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And people don't even know about Kenny Gamble. It's like
our Barry.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Gordy exactly, isn't he Isn't he like ninety now or something?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Now, Kenny got to be in his late seventies or
early maybe eighties by now.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You can probably look him up. But Kenny's up there now.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But he's been eighty for a long time though he
been eighty.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Four, been age for about fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm not mistaken, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I respect Kenny. Last time I talked to him,
he was coming.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
He took the whole block on Fifteenth from fifteenth in
Captain to Matros. He tore all the houses down and
built his wife a mansion right there in the hood.
Because he's from down fifteenth Street.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
W I like that. Oh look it up, bro.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
He taught the whole block down and built his wife,
a mansion in the hood, never left the good.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The thing about it like, we got to understand the history,
and we don't know it.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Most people don't be like I said, we don't talk
about these things no more, because you know, you leave
those little childish things behind and you try to mend
what you have done to people, you know, with people.
Even when I go home, I try to do that
because people have been asking me, Yoshi, you should go
home and you should talk to these young people. I'll
be like, well, what I'm gonna talk to him about?
They said, no, tell him about your experience, bro, what
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you've been through and how you still hear. That's what
they wanted to talk to.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The thing about the guy that shot you five damn
that nigga had a terrible aim. His aim was ridiculous.
He hit you five times, a good ki. Where was
he shooting you in the foot? What the I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
No, No, let me tell you. The weirdest part was
I can remember when it happened. My mother.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
My mother been going since two thousand and eight. My
son I got shot in two thousand, no ninety seven.
My mother left in two thousand and eight, and when
I got hit. I remember when the dude said he.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Got up, because I got up and I ran, and
I said this need to be great.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
To get out the car. They gravely shoot me some more.
It was two d get off the car shooting. So
I ran because I was getting as I was running.
That's why I got a bullet in the back of
my head. I got what hit in my back and
stopped in my chest. I don't know if my arm
went up in the air. One went through my wrists.
So when went first, will hit me my chest and
came out my back. So that's what threw me down
on the ground. It made it spun me and I
(25:46):
hit a bumper and I got I remember like it yesterday,
and I ran in the house and my neighbor rest
in peace. He was the one that grabbed me and
helped me because he heard ear coming out my chest
my lungs, and.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
He whittled you until the people came to the hear you.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And I didn't want nobody touch, but I shed let
me go. He said, I'm not letting you go.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And guess what.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Guess what, Mike, he was one of the niggas I sold.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Crack to man.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We are family are you following me? Weird part, Like
that's the way I used to tell to go home.
You see what I'm saying, go home to your wife.
But he passed away from smoking cigarettes. But my point is,
like when you go through this type of trauma and
you give your life story about this is to is
to help other young people to not follow them. It
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was crazy because I could not tell my son that,
you know, I mean my son, Like they said you
should stop act, you know, have your children as your friend.
But my children were my friends.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
They was my you know what I mean. Like that's
how it was. So my son thought I was warning,
but I'm like, no.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You was trying to give him the direction, tell him
what he needed to know to make it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So he died from you. He ended up dying from
smoking cigarettes. Yeah, the guy who and he used to
be a craighead, he gave that up. He ended up
dying smoking cigarettes. I had a cousin like that. I
had a cousin who smoked Paul Mall cigarettes man. You
know remember Paul ma Yeah, Paul pale man what he
called with didn't have a field. It's like smoking wood. Yeah,
(27:11):
My one of my cousins. He smoked. He smoked for
thirty seven years, and one day he gave up smoking
cigarettes in a day and he said, a cigarette will
never kill me. And then he walked out on the
street and got hit by a Cool's truck. Okay, anyway,
we gotta go thirty minutes ago, Liberty do Now they
be gone. Man, But I love talking to you. I
(27:32):
don't even have to have a particular topic. You have
such a rich wealth of information about who we are
as a people and about society. I could talk to
you anytime. So I'm inviting you to drop in again.
They just talked to me over here, because Michael talked
to everybody. You know, we'd have Monique on here. Hell Harper,
your line to Adams, George Wallace. This the place to be, man,
So come back and talk to us again.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Will you, Yeah, no doubt. Let me give you this, Mike.
I want you to look up this book.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
It's called Kumma Link, Who Mama Linc. And the It's
called Them, And actually in it it talks about the
Mandan Charter. If you're familiar with I know a lot
of people your audience may not know about. The man
Dean charter. You should look it up on the Man
Dean Charter. It's the first human rights charter.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right. And if you know why people don't hang out
with you, people gotta read too damn much to hang
out with you.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But I'm gonna explain it to you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
See, we talked about slavery, right, that's when they talked
it was a slavery about slavery. How we don't supposed
to enslave each other. So my point was, we are
still fighting against each other. So this is long before
the Atlantic slave trade. So if you see us fighting
one another again, they're gonna set the sideline right, and
they're gonna give all the weapons to the one to
(28:43):
fight against the other one.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But it's the charter.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
It's the first human rights charter, long before the Atlantic
slave trade. And that book, this book is called kumam
Ma link A.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I tell that on my ankle. Once it hurt too,
you have to put some salve on the otherwise you
have a big old scale. I'm just joking. Okay, say
it again one more time because it is important. Put
it back up. Kuma or and it says that historial
graphi a historiography historyography, So the history of.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
What went about. I'm from avery, how slavery?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
How you was not supposed to enslave your brother man,
spouse bites in in mob.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
This is long before the Atlantic slave trade, way before that.
So they saw this.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
They saw this before white folks showed up. Black people
were enslaving black people in Africa.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Someone some people romanticide.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I gotta go. I love talking to you, but I
gotta go. I gotta go. People how they can find
Tell people, how they can find you, Severe Bay.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Okay, I'm on YouTube Severe Bay s A b I
R again, savere Bai on YouTube s A b I R.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
And my Twitter is real Severe Bay again, Real Severe Bay.
And also the website is severe to Spearbay dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Night. And they can't find you nowhere else. You'll be
sitting at the airport waiting for that flight. Okay, my man.
I love you brother, my brother, and my friend. Okay,
all right, I'll see you later. I love you, peace
and love. Hey, y'all, Michael talks to everybody. You've been
right here listening to us. That's the Beer Bay. This
brother is so sharp. You know so much about black
(30:22):
history and black culture. We will be having him back again. Okay,
I gotta go. Hey, y'all, I'm here three days a
week with new shows, and five days a week on YouTube.
But the Michael Kaye Morning Show God is great and
you ain't too bad yourself. Remember life is a garden.
If you dig it, I'll catch you on the rerun.
Bye woo. I had a good time today. I hope
(30:46):
y'all did too. Man, Thank y'all for checking us out
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Michael Kaye Morning Show. That's seven eight inm Pacific time, YO,
five days a week. This has been a ray Lock
(31:29):
Group production. I see y'all later.
M hm, who you all ready?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, so missus.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Michael called this world, started doing Venice peach. Now he
reached in the world.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
He'll make you left. Take the stomach cars, superfly, nice guy,
break it to me.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Trust he ain't ready for the star starts winner and
oh g three times this thing. Gonta get up whether
you win y' house, you want your brother out's a
dinner on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Your job and your brother. That I mean, it's a call.
Michael Taus said, everybody like to call Michael Taus.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
That everybody like to call Yes, Michael.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Taus, that everybody you know what shot.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Called Michael fuck to everybody to call Michael Taus.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
To everybody, Michael Fox said, my bridy, everybody, everybody call Hey, everybody,
welcome to Michael talks to everybody. I mean everybody. If
you've been following, man, we just talked to homeless dude.
I've been thirty minutes talking to a real homeless dude.
(01:01):
Learned some gems, man, a knowledge that I would never
learned from someone who hadn't had his experience. We interviewed
a crackhead. Well it was me that the interview, but
that's not the point. We still got the information out.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
This is all over.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
A bike.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Everybody come to Mike Show. Come to Mike Show. He said,
know that's you know. The funny thing is, I'm gonna
be real with you bike. You know. I used to
do what you wanna laugh at this. I was a
conscious dude who sold crack.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You know what I did, soul crack.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I sold it, bro, but you was conscious. Let me
tell you. Let me tell you this story behind us
even Okay, listen, Kevin Hart pop. We know that nigga.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Well, when he tells you about his pop that was real.
Kevin Hart's father was like that, Oh he was out
of his smoking.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You know he's from Sphelly. Yeah, he was from that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I don't know. I didn't know he was a smoker. Okay,
let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Let me tell you what happened. I used to sell
it to you to tell you to stop smoking.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Wow, this is not good for you. That's gonna be
four hundred no, but don't.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But the real rep it was so it was to
the point that I used to do it. Then I said,
I was like, damn. I used to be like, yo, man,
you should go home to your wife like I would
do a matter of fact here like it was weird.
Like I used to sit there and.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We'd a lot of the salesmen unconscious. I was told
many times, man, you shouldn't even be doing this shit. Man,
do you have a change for this? Hundred? Okay, So
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So it's part of our journey. Brother, It's like you
got to tell the good and the bad.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
That's why I love about what you do, because you
do tell what you want through you know, even your jokes,
because it's our experiences.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know what we go through in life, and it's
like yo, in some way, somehow you get a wake
upcast somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
It was probably when I got shot the second time,
because sometimes yeah, cause I got shot the first time
in the shootout.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, the second time the second time, will do it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
The second time was five times?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Right, you got shot five times?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah. I still have a bullet in my head in
one of my chests. So so sometimes people.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What is your relationship with God then? Or do you
have a higher source that you recognize?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
There is a higher band whatever you want to call him.
I don't give it a name, you know what I mean?
You know, my thing is like people say a load
just the Arabic word is just God, but it is
a higher supreme being. Somebody's watching over me.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But I can say this. When my brother got killed.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I was ten.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
My brother was twenty five. He got shot and killed
and thrown on the freeway in Colorado. And my mother
used to always say that my brother is watching over me.
Because when you when you now, my son is going
My son got killed in twenty twenty, right, So they
say a person leaves you, a person's working on the other.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Side for you.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Wow, I mean you have someone working on the other side.
So I got people working on both sides. So when
that happened to me, my mother used to always say
that my brother is watching you.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So I don't.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
So sometimes people got to take heed to these things.
When you go through these these devices, you know, just
using crack two. Some people may go through crack and
some people may slip back into it. If you don't
have the right person around.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
M or if you're in the wrong places, wrong where
you get that man, you get that feeling, you say, Man,
I'm smelling something I feel, can you follow me.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's the same thing with dealing with this whole You know.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Hey, folks, let me just tell y'all where y'all at.
Michael talks to everybody, and today I remember the conversation
with Severe Bay. Real black man actually knows our culture,
our history, and he ain't afraid to say it. Go ahead,
what was you saying, King?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
No, somebody, I'm laughing. Somebody used to be a conscious
crack crack deal drug deal.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I did. We all did. That's hilarious to me, No,
it is.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But it's real though, brother, But that was because I
was a young father.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Brother, Listen, I'm gonna be real and I say this
a lot, and this this is the journey, brother, where
I'm going at with this? Because when I was younger,
my first son, I was a teenager, Mike, when I
had my first son, my first son.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right right, hold on, let me ask you a question. Sure,
was I inviting you to the two o'clock or the
one o'clock?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was one?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, good, good good? Because the other person just popped in.
I'm like, where she going?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Incopa local works, geek op local?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Does it work? Though?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The loss?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I want to ask you about that? Does it work? Yeah?
Because I'd be having short term memory loss. See I
forgot the word loss. I mean a word memory loss.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm here with you. I'm here, bro.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I could be on the couch and I'll be running
the stairs against something. I get the top of the.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Stairs and be like, damn, what was I going coming
up here for?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Look? I looked for my glasses one day for twenty minutes.
I got frustrated. I want you to scratch my head.
The glasses was on my head. So yes, I think
I need to check out some gink go below. But
if you say it.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Work, somebody said I wasn't listen. This is the crazy part.
I wish people. They don't even know my life. People
don't even know my life unless you come from South Philadelphia.
That's like me telling me I know Mike Collier. I
don't know Mike Callier. I know know Mike Collier from Chicago,
but I know I've seen him and I've been in
his presence, not video.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But I know this sticker will fight you in a heartbeat,
no matter, Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You don't know Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
This is the thing, Mike.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
They think or believe that you do comedy or are
you a rapper that you don't you know what I mean,
like a real person can recognize a real person, Yes, sir,
a real person recognize your person. But what people try
to do is pull you back today you got me
into that state of mind or that think.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
They'll do little things.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You know what I mean, just the point. Even worse,
people try to keep you on the space where you
used to be exactly you ain't even no nomal And
that's how they approach you. They want you to still
be that person, to respond to those things and not.
You know, everything that happened ten minutes ago is already over.
You know, I'm moving forward to do all kinds of
(06:46):
new things. So if you think that's who I am, dude,
you're gonna be so confused, because that's not what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But he's he's still in you.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
He's still he scares a nice warm home. Now listen,
what is a King Alfie's plan?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
What is the King Office plan?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Is the Rex eighty four was written in nineteen sixty
seven sixty seven, sixty eight, which to control the population.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'll get you a copy next time I see you
out here. I'll make a copy. Matter of fact, yeah'll
make a copy, and I give it to you so.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
What control the population like the government did just now
when they created this virus. Try to knock a bunch
of people and saw the balance.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
All right, go ahead, control the media, control the education system,
control the money. All this was in the king Office plan.
Now this was fact I had to document probably twenty
eight years. It's four Who was he king?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
King? Yeah, who's King Golfer?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He was a European. It was a European dude.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
But it was a strategy that was over here in
the States also, like actually controlled it to get to
get rid of money and use credit.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Are they doing that to no?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Right, you go on to studios on some store, now
only will they not take the money? They say, please,
don't put that on counter, don't pick that up, don't
do that. I'm like this this money lady, and remember
in God us God, no, he ain't in here. I'll
get that off the counter.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I'm sorry, go ahead, you know, but this is what
is happening.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
It talks about the controled education of the children, and
it also talks about keep them distracted.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right we are, we are distracted. I mean you know,
if you ask me, I think Trump is a distraction.
I don't think anybody in the right man even expect
to get Trump back in the office. It's a distraction.
Watch They're gonna pull up some other food who they're
gonna celebrate, march down to the to the to the UH,
to the DC and make him your new president. Because
(08:35):
you ain't beaying no attention right now. You got this craziness,
this juggling act called Trump propaganda.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yes, indeed, he's the father of public relations man.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I hope you know that the government is monitor
your phone and these these airwaves. Everything we're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, Mike mean me, I mean you they watch Listen, listen.
Let me tell you something. The funny part with me
like I did radio for over twenty four years and feeling.
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
If somebody knock on my door, you know what I
would do if left. First of all, people got to
understand the fair's job. The fares investigate brother. That's the
If my brother did twenty two years in the federal prison,
you can look him up online. I'll say his name,
but you can look him up. The Feds investigate. They
never come after you unless they have contrary evidence.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Are you following me?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
They do not have a ninety nine percent conviction rate.
And they don't play games. They will actually investigate you
before they come at you. So I if you come
to me, because I studied mock them for so long,
you remember what a kid I don't know if you
remember they came to Malcolm X's house, go look up
the secret Go look up the secret recording with Malcolm X.
And Malcolm X asked, They said, tell us something about
Elijah Mahammon. He said, well, you want to know about him.
(09:50):
We're an open book, he said, And he tried to
offer him money. He said, people will accept money. He said, well,
your dollar bill is shrinking. He said, yo, Colum has
said that. So he said, you you will insult my
intelligence not to know what I'm say in advance. You
see how you will work with them. So if a
person comes to me and try to get anything out
of me, like asking me about you, you will be
insult in my intelligence not to know.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm not going to go against you. So I'm going
to ask you some questions. You see what I'm saying.
So I'm not concerned about none of this.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I walk at peace, brother, And this is why you
hear me say about God about who you believe in
the higher power?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's somebody out there. So why would I walk in
fear every day?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I can't see and me, I think my thing is
a little different. God is everything to me, and that's
why I walk every day with no fear. I think
one with God is the majority my faith. In fact,
me and God take on any of you. Mother anyway,
I'm just saying. I just know that there is a
source to create it, everything from nothingness, and it did
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it in the name of love. And I really believe
that the universe is always conspiring for our good. Yes, yes, yes,
but I don't want to name I don't really want
to name it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Really, you don't have to name it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I and I, but I love me from Jesus Christ.
Thank you. I'm sorry. Go ahead, so let me ask
you this. So let me ask you this because you
are so.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You got excuse me, brother, because I'm laughing at the
same time, because this is the funny.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Say, you gotta have humor in this, man, you have
to have the humor in this.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But go ahead in life, man, you better have some
humor and better and my God has a sense of
you know, a great matter of fact, Look at some
of the people when you get on the plane, look
at some of these people sitting next to you. If
you don't laugh out loud, you don't get it. It's
some funny looking people.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is I didn't eve wanna say that. I don't say it.
I gonna call out a name of the comedian, but
I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it
because all I do is tell a joke about one
person and fifteen people call me. Oh man, y'all have
the beef. I don't beef for nobody.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't have beef for nobody cause I don't eat meat.
You know I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, that'll teach you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh here he goes, he gonna.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Because I don't have beet with nobody either, because I don't,
like I said, I don't eat meat, salt, have beef
with no brother.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm at peace with myself. You know.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I know I was. I was living with a vegan
my last relationship. You know, I was living with a vegan,
So I mean she was a brutal vegan too.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She would see me eating chicken. She'd be like, oh,
I see you eating caucaus today. And I was like, yeah,
I'm putting a barbecue sauce on that Caucasus too. Gonna
give me some potato salad, go with that thing, a
piece of bread. No, we get it. I know you're
a vegan, but I'm gonna tell you something that's a
secret that you probably don't know. This. We got to
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eat these animals. We got to eat these animals, sir. Look,
when I eat chicken, I am doing the Lord's work.
Let me explain this. God, God create everything with a purpose.
What's the purpose? What's the purpose of a chicken? It
was not to eat the chicken. Chicken aint gonna bring
in your newspaper. Chicken ain't gonna protect your house. You
can't even make a damn chicken. Goat when I eat
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a chicken, the Lord smiles. I'm sorry anyway, that's what I.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Want, dude.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I wouldn't eat it. I wouldn't eat it over here
in the States, I don't eat it at all. I
haven't ate meat and probably damn since I was Damn,
it's almost been thirty years.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Wow, Well I applaud you. You up. You have a
great constitution, brother, that you that you can make it
like that. I heard about that. That's a big word, though, listen,
a big word. Here's what I want to ask you,
serious business, because I hear you when you say what
we do to each other. I've been on this program
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for the longest, trying to do this thing to turn
around black on black crime in Chicago. I mean, we're
wiping each other out in Chicago. Mean, every weekend, thirty
forty people shooting in our community, killing each other, and
for no real purpose. There's nothing to gain from it
at all. It's not like you gain more territory, you
gain more money. I don't even know if you get
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bragging points. I don't even know what it's about. But
we're knocking each other off. Do you see any solution
anyway to turn around black people killing black people? And
I keep seeing black people don't have to kill black people.
Police are doing that for us if we just be patient. Oh,
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Well no, no, no, I know I'm peeling you because
I asked myself these questions, and sometimes I'll be ready
to throw at a towel. I've been asked to go
back to Philly to do something in Philly because my
son was killed by my people. My show was shot
up what many times, almost ten.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Times by my people.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now what was he doing at the time.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
He wasn't doing nothing. But this is the thing about
social media. He was on social media.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
And sometimes it's a rift and a beef that's going
on in Philadelphia at this particular moment right well, speaking
on a lot of the dudes is locked up now.
But it's a rift in Philly. If anybody knows about Philly,
Philly is very small. South Philly is very small too.
And online and they caught him slipping.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He was high at night. They caught me slipping.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
And this is the thing about it, Like I know
my children, I know, I know him. My other son
is not into it like that. But this particular one
was trying to be in it, you know what I mean,
trying to follow what my family was doing. It was
like he would use the family as bragging rights for
certain things, you know what I mean. Or they would say,
you know in this and I'm just being real with
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you how it happened. So they would say, well, your
father used to do or your father used to you know,
this is what he was trying to hold up.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Like your father, yo, yo, your father was christ father.
You know, so he thought, you know, I mean he
had to prove something, but he didn't have to prove it.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
So I used to sit with him.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I went home brother for like three months to stay
with him, to keep them away from the streets. I
went to Philly and actually rent enough spot and keep them.
Call me you got taught me?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, And that's why I said, the most hurting thing, brother,
is to bury your child and you try to keep
them away from certain things.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I'm asking the question. And a couple of brothers from.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Philly children that got killed, and that's the wake up call.
It's because because of what we have done. Because it's
a karma thing, brother, and it's a karma thing that
if you don't straighten your life or or repent for
what you have done. Like me, I'm always like yo, bro,
like no, that's not cool. And I always try to
bree that olive branch, even with people with beef on
social media.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'm always there one that want to bring people together.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'm gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Let's tell somebody some soap or something. Hey, y'all, Michael
talks to everybody.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Were selling things, were taking a break, we'll be right back,
and we're black.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean, we're back. So you saying, tell me, what
are you talking about when you say it's a karma thing,
Because my understanding of karma is what goes around, comes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Around, comes around, and that's what it is. That's real talk.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It may not this is the weirdest thing ever. It
may not happen when you expected to happen. Because when
I got shot, Mike, I wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I was. I was really getting into this what you
would call conscious stuff, right.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And somebody just walked up and shot you for no reason.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
This is how it happened.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I was coming home from the gym and had a
ball head going to my mom house, and the dude
put up in a car and asked me where it was.
Twenty second in sumrset. This is in Philadelphia. Now, I
know Somerset. We sused to go up there and buy
stuff at there. You know what I mean, That's okay,
that's a drug area. So the dude, I said, no, rather,
I don't know what that you know, No, I don't know.
So when I saw the gun come up, I tried
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to grab the gun from the dude, and that's when
he started shooting.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I got hit five out of the six.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But what happened, Well, he just shot you because you
didn't know where the place, so he was trying to
go with you.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I laughed at it, No, but I laughed.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Listen, when I was coming out through the elevator, my
mom got mad at me because my whole blanket was blood.
Blood was gushing out my chest. So my my mother
got mad at me because I had a smile on
my face. And I'm like, you know, because I wanted
to go to take the truth. But I just wanted
to leave the planet. Yeah, I was, let's not move
any faster. Why the hell would you want to leave
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the planet.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me tell you something. It's not that I wanted
to leave by it was. I don't know what it was.
At the time. I was just done. I was finished.
I didn't want nothing. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
At that split second, because my adrenaline was already pumping,
I just left the gym and everything that hit me.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I thought about things I've done. I'm not gonna lie
till I was at the age of fifteen, s fold.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And all flash back your life.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It was like you know how those old vhs when
you were push the button and it's playing and you rewinded.
That's what was rewinded in my head. Every bullet that
hit me, everything that I have ever done was rewinded
in my head. So this is why I feel some
type of way when we kill each other, because I
know the pain. I know what people go through. I
know now even know to lose in my son. And
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it's not the white man that's doing it. We're doing
it to each other. So if we're doing these things
to ourselves because we don't know history, you see what
I'm saying, All this goes back to history again with
the Moores. We sold ourselves out back then, and we're
still doing it today because if you look at it
right now, Mike, what did we see on that What
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did we see on the radio, on TV?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And YouTube and Instagrams? You follow me? So now we're
on social media beefing with each other, letting the so
called white man, like you said, that's watching, he's sitting
back and watching who he can give the money to.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I'll give the money to him, to Mike, because Mike,
it's not like Sabir. We'll give you all the platforms
and give you all the publicity you know seeing because
he's not like Sabir. I'm supposed to be like a
radical person, but I'm not right.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Right, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm a piece of dude.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
But if you hear me speaking, I'm going to speak
the truth. So now that we're gonna push him out there,
we don't want him. And it's the same thing as
hip hop. We used to have ratchet hit, we had
hip hop'sill. First of all, let's kill us because it's
never been no such thing as gainst the rat. If
you want to talk about gainst the rap, you gotta
go back to school. He d in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Wow, okay, but there is really no.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Such thing as gangst the rap because gangsters wear suits.
So now we're looking at this. Used to be a
balancing hip hop. You had Wu Tang and you had
public Enemy, and you had n Wa.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You follow me, That's what it was. So now we're
going to only give you the negative. This is what's happening.
So now these young cats, because my son was like that.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
My son would come in the room and he would
listen to this bull and I'll be like, man, that
the hell off I was tell him this I was.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
He said no, Dad, you know I said no, turn
it off. It's a vibration. You see what I'm saying.
And people don't understand the vibration. When you see these videos,
all these music, they say kill kid, I'll be like,
how many times can you kill a person in a round?
You follow me?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
So now there are rather you know it or not,
it's in your subconscious mind. It's like the Viagra commercial
for instance. Right you ever see the Viagon commercial and
the dude sitting outside washing the car and the holes
is coming out and.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The woman upstairs in the window and the sid's supposed
to be something else.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Even he's smiling. They got you late at night, say
they got you. That's what they're doing is constant rotation.
And I'm looking at it on social media.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So now our children are watching this twenty four to seven,
and we're trying to immolate that that's not what it is.
So me trying to talk to my son. He think
I'm coming at him, and I'm like, no, this is
not what it is.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
It's only two places. You've already been in jail for
behind a lot of stuff, so the other only other places.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What we're six feet under. Yes, sir, my son is
sitting up here. His ashes is right there. I literally
still got his asses.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wow, are you gonna be cremated too? When you die?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Listen once, I'm going I don't care what you do
with me.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
M I do, I do, I do only cremated. I'm
gonna be cremating and throw me in and whoever the
biggest comedian of the day is just taking my ashes
and throw them in the fix. I'm sorry, I'm being silly. Listen.
How much of this do you think it's the hypnotization
of the music, Because I did. I think the hypnotization
of the music drowns out the bs that is being
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said underneath the Yes didn't I think the music is
so hot and so fly? Did you get into the
beat and you don't care You're talking about killing each other?
The niggas ain't ship and all that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know, that's what happens. Remember these stand songs called
message in the music?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, you know what I mean? They kill you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Gotta get with Kenny Gamble brother and talk with Kenny Gamble. Listen.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
When I go back to Philly, I'm gonna reach back
out to Kendy and you got it, brother, you gotta sit.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And if you did a music video for him.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He did a music video for Kenny Gamble, the first.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Music video I did. I can't relate the team, but
Gamble on Huff and we did Huff.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Brother, I don't know if you know that not't Oh
they was gangs. They sound like gangster not you never
you ever heard the story.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
You heard the story between Kenny Gamble, Lee Huff and
Teddy Penagraph.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Let me tell you the story behind this. You know
that that Teddy, Teddy's from Philly too. Teddy used to
beat up woman.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He used to beat up women.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Me tell you something, go through the research on me,
go talk to somebody from Philly. My mother knew his mother.
So this is how when they would come into Philly,
the mob was looking for Teddy. The mob was looking
for Teddy Pentagram. And you know what Kenny Gambleham said.
They wanted Teddy. He said, we not giving you Teddy,
We'll give you some money. That's what they told the
Philadelphia mob. Listen, Kenny Gamble, they didn't play these games. Brother,
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Them dudes was real. Dude, ain't no way in hell
we're going to give you Teddy crazy. And this is
during the time of the you know, Philly International. See,
people don't know the history about Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So it's a lot of stuff that the show on
just that because there's so much about it that that
whole gambling huff thing is a big empire. It's not
a little thing, you know, it's not small.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And people don't even know about Kenny Gamble. It's like
our Barry.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Gordy exactly, isn't he Isn't he like ninety now or something?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Now, Kenny got to be in his late seventies or
early maybe eighties by now.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You can probably look him up. But Kenny's up there now.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But he's been eighty for a long time though he
been eighty.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Four, been age for about fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm not mistaken, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I respect Kenny. Last time I talked to him,
he was coming.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
He took the whole block on Fifteenth from fifteenth in
Captain to Matros. He tore all the houses down and
built his wife a mansion right there in the hood.
Because he's from down fifteenth Street.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
W I like that. Oh look it up, bro.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
He taught the whole block down and built his wife,
a mansion in the hood, never left the good.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The thing about it like, we got to understand the history,
and we don't know it.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Most people don't be like I said, we don't talk
about these things no more, because you know, you leave
those little childish things behind and you try to mend
what you have done to people, you know, with people.
Even when I go home, I try to do that
because people have been asking me, Yoshi, you should go
home and you should talk to these young people. I'll
be like, well, what I'm gonna talk to him about?
They said, no, tell him about your experience, bro, what
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you've been through and how you still hear. That's what
they wanted to talk to.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The thing about the guy that shot you five damn
that nigga had a terrible aim. His aim was ridiculous.
He hit you five times, a good ki. Where was
he shooting you in the foot? What the I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
No, No, let me tell you. The weirdest part was
I can remember when it happened. My mother.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
My mother been going since two thousand and eight. My
son I got shot in two thousand, no ninety seven.
My mother left in two thousand and eight, and when
I got hit. I remember when the dude said he.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Got up, because I got up and I ran, and
I said this need to be great.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
To get out the car. They gravely shoot me some more.
It was two d get off the car shooting. So
I ran because I was getting as I was running.
That's why I got a bullet in the back of
my head. I got what hit in my back and
stopped in my chest. I don't know if my arm
went up in the air. One went through my wrists.
So when went first, will hit me my chest and
came out my back. So that's what threw me down
on the ground. It made it spun me and I
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hit a bumper and I got I remember like it yesterday,
and I ran in the house and my neighbor rest
in peace. He was the one that grabbed me and
helped me because he heard ear coming out my chest
my lungs, and.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
He whittled you until the people came to the hear you.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And I didn't want nobody touch, but I shed let
me go. He said, I'm not letting you go.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And guess what.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Guess what, Mike, he was one of the niggas I sold.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Crack to man.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We are family are you following me? Weird part, Like
that's the way I used to tell to go home.
You see what I'm saying, go home to your wife.
But he passed away from smoking cigarettes. But my point is,
like when you go through this type of trauma and
you give your life story about this is to is
to help other young people to not follow them. It
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was crazy because I could not tell my son that,
you know, I mean my son, Like they said you
should stop act, you know, have your children as your friend.
But my children were my friends.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
They was my you know what I mean. Like that's
how it was. So my son thought I was warning,
but I'm like, no.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You was trying to give him the direction, tell him
what he needed to know to make it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So he died from you. He ended up dying from
smoking cigarettes. Yeah, the guy who and he used to
be a craighead, he gave that up. He ended up
dying smoking cigarettes. I had a cousin like that. I
had a cousin who smoked Paul Mall cigarettes man. You
know remember Paul ma Yeah, Paul pale man what he
called with didn't have a field. It's like smoking wood. Yeah,
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My one of my cousins. He smoked. He smoked for
thirty seven years, and one day he gave up smoking
cigarettes in a day and he said, a cigarette will
never kill me. And then he walked out on the
street and got hit by a Cool's truck. Okay, anyway,
we gotta go thirty minutes ago, Liberty do Now they
be gone. Man, But I love talking to you. I
(27:32):
don't even have to have a particular topic. You have
such a rich wealth of information about who we are
as a people and about society. I could talk to
you anytime. So I'm inviting you to drop in again.
They just talked to me over here, because Michael talked
to everybody. You know, we'd have Monique on here. Hell Harper,
your line to Adams, George Wallace. This the place to be, man,
So come back and talk to us again.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Will you, Yeah, no doubt. Let me give you this, Mike.
I want you to look up this book.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
It's called Kumma Link, Who Mama Linc. And the It's
called Them, And actually in it it talks about the
Mandan Charter. If you're familiar with I know a lot
of people your audience may not know about. The man
Dean charter. You should look it up on the Man
Dean Charter. It's the first human rights charter.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right. And if you know why people don't hang out
with you, people gotta read too damn much to hang
out with you.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But I'm gonna explain it to you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
See, we talked about slavery, right, that's when they talked
it was a slavery about slavery. How we don't supposed
to enslave each other. So my point was, we are
still fighting against each other. So this is long before
the Atlantic slave trade. So if you see us fighting
one another again, they're gonna set the sideline right, and
they're gonna give all the weapons to the one to
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fight against the other one.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But it's the charter.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
It's the first human rights charter, long before the Atlantic
slave trade. And that book, this book is called kumam
Ma link A.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I tell that on my ankle. Once it hurt too,
you have to put some salve on the otherwise you
have a big old scale. I'm just joking. Okay, say
it again one more time because it is important. Put
it back up. Kuma or and it says that historial
graphi a historiography historyography, So the history of.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
What went about. I'm from avery, how slavery?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
How you was not supposed to enslave your brother man,
spouse bites in in mob.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
This is long before the Atlantic slave trade, way before that.
So they saw this.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
They saw this before white folks showed up. Black people
were enslaving black people in Africa.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Someone some people romanticide.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I gotta go. I love talking to you, but I
gotta go. I gotta go. People how they can find
Tell people, how they can find you, Severe Bay.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Okay, I'm on YouTube Severe Bay s A b I
R again, savere Bai on YouTube s A b I R.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
And my Twitter is real Severe Bay again, Real Severe Bay.
And also the website is severe to Spearbay dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Night. And they can't find you nowhere else. You'll be
sitting at the airport waiting for that flight. Okay, my man.
I love you brother, my brother, and my friend. Okay,
all right, I'll see you later. I love you, peace
and love. Hey, y'all, Michael talks to everybody. You've been
right here listening to us. That's the Beer Bay. This
brother is so sharp. You know so much about black
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history and black culture. We will be having him back again. Okay,
I gotta go. Hey, y'all, I'm here three days a
week with new shows, and five days a week on YouTube.
But the Michael Kaye Morning Show God is great and
you ain't too bad yourself. Remember life is a garden.
If you dig it, I'll catch you on the rerun.
Bye woo. I had a good time today. I hope
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y'all did too. Man, Thank y'all for checking us out
here at Michael talks to everybody. Hey, you can follow me, man,
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