October 23, 2023 • 29 mins
Today Michael talks to s young black dude that will one day be Mayor of Chicago. This young man shut down more Chase Banks than VanCamp’s has Pork and Beans and didn’t go to Jail. Let’s talk about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
Everybody everybody don't call. Yeah boy. That's the Chicago edition.
This is your boy.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Michael Kaye from the projects, Robert Tayler Home four three
fifty two South State, probably nine oh nine. From there,
I sleep it on out to Morgan Park one thirteen
fifty six offth carpent to Well. I graduated nineteen seventy
five m P High for Life. The Chicago edition of
Michael talks to everybody. And we have one of Chicago's
young heroes here, a man that I'm honored to you
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to know, I mean young, Are you.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Still twenty eight or older? Twenty eight? Just turned twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Like August ninth or nineteenth, the ninth.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
August night, right, right, right? So he just turned twenty
at this guy?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
First of all, he is a community activist, and he's
Chicago's youngest mayoral candidate. He ran twice. He's the youngest candidate.
I was most fascinated by class clown. You were a
class clown at your school.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
For sure, kicked out of nine schools.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You get kicked out of nine schools, nine.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Schools, Mike, Yeah, real street Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You're a revolutionary for real, and you have the smile
that says you up to something, you know what, look
like you're about to do something you ain't supposed to do.
But I've never really seen you. I never seen you
be anything but serious.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yep, for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh my goodness. Okay, tell me about the family. You
got kids, wife, what yeap?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Hopefully be married soon?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I got so I can't say that, but three children,
Jamal Junior, Jalen and Jaden started I was nineteen, So.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You love to hear your own name just Jayleen.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Jayleen j J. All right, go ahead, started to be
George Foreman and named the mal j Mal. But I say,
you know what, there you go. Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What was interesting is we had George Forman a third
on here, and he broke it down for us why
he did that, and that they weren't really clear on
who his father, whose father's father was when he's coming up,
and he said he wanted to make sure that never
happens in his family, so he made sure all of
them knew where they came from. George Part one George anyway.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So yes, they're amazing boys, and we have an amazing family.
I can't, you know, complain out my blessings. And really
they love watching what's going on with me and following
in my footsteps. And they just got haircuts that look
like mine's. They're like, we want to have the same
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haircuts if you didn't change your hair cut up.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I said, all right, fine, and uh you better embrace that.
Oh yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
How old if they're doing that? How ol today is eight?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah? My middle turned seven and then my youngest is four.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Oh yeah, that makes it. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Wait till they thirteen fourteen. See if they want the
same haircut, they won't even be talking to you. Then
y'all don't even talk the same language when they get
to that age.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
But let me get right to you. You are a
hero to me.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I appreciate what you've done, going all the way back
to the Chase Bank debacle, the Chase Bank thing where
they weren't giving money to the black community but only
the white community, and you stepped up.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Can you tell me briefly about that.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, Chase Bank, and I lived in to the South
and the West Side.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It's for a six year period from twenty twelve to
twenty eighteen, and so what we saw consistently year after
year was they were giving hundreds of millions to white
neighborhood and not even a billion to a black, predominantly
black neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And if you know, you know it's very segregated.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
So black communities is predominantly black, White communities predominantly white.
And so a neighborhood like Lincoln Park got a billion
dollars of six years, and then we got like a
million dollars through the whole six years. So it was
showing that they were being intentional and not investing in
black neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And when you look at the the fault race, the
fault rates are the same.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
There is nothing that can show that these people in
these neighborhoods couldn't qualify as people that Chase just decided
not to in in those communities.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
We stepped up, you know, I told you where I'm from.
We know where we're from, right, and we.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Sat down branches, so you literally would go on to
brand just say everybody, finish your transactions and shut this
place down and shut down branch out the branch to
shut down with thirty five.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Wait, what do you mean shut it down?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You stand in front of the door and don't let
anybody else wan, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
No, what do you do? How do you shut it down?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't stand in front of doors.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I go in and I let everybody know that they
got to finish their transactions and everybody got to get
out of How.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Come security and come and grab you better, scirf of
your neck and throw you out the door.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, they don't want those problems, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So you know you don't walk in by yourself, do you?
You go in with a small group.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I gotta I gotta, I gotta tea with me, you know,
so you know, end of the day, Chase new Chase
Chase caught.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
On and what they start doing.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
After I had my first meeting with him, I told them, well,
unless y'all come with some something good, I want a
billion dollars, then you know we're gonna keep.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Shutting these down.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Uh. Chase Chase told directed. They created a group chat
with all their managers.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They said, where y'all see j Mal just shut down
all the branches in the area.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
And while winning one branch, they would shut it down,
and they would shut down any branch in nearby and
send all the employees home. You know, we were shutting
down branches all over the city. Was very hard to
get into a Chase bank at that time.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And they got tired of it and they gave in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They gave in what they agreed to do.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
They agreed.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
They agreed to a billion dollar investment as far as
six hundred million and loans another couple hundred million in
grants and down payment assistance. They hired these new I
forgot what they called them, but they are some community
reps that they hired that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Helped folks through the home ownership process, and they're not
on their own salary. You know, they give a lot
of money to financial literacy into organizations.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So if you see Chase sponsoring much of everything in Chicago,
it's it's due to our movement.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And they came out and they acknowledged my fight as well.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So why did you make it your fight? You a
young dude, You could be doing all kind of stuff.
Why are you fighting with the bank? Well, you know,
somebody got to do it, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Unfortunately, love that we have our leadership is terrible right now, man,
and a lot of our leaders are very older that
never passed the torch. And so in Chicago, we don't
have no real organizations or real leaders to step up.
I'm one of the most influential, influential black leaders in
the state. And that's terrible, right because what happens is
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when things happen, they look at me, right and say,
what is j Mar going to do? And it's a
lot of pressure.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, Jesse Jackson is just retired.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know, we don't have like an NAACPDAB Any Footing
Urban League is.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
An an older organization that you know, so there's a
lot of there.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
There's no one that really says anything when things happen
to black people in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
A lot of other organizations are just getting money.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
And so unfortunately, just like July first, they came out
with a study that showed that Illinois was number fifty
and equity in the country and the large racial wealth
gap in the country. And so when it came out
that black business and majority of black businesses are barely
making fifty thousand dollars a year in Chicago, that we
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are the most unemployed in Chicago. When you look at
the ratios from cities, you know, there's no one saying
thing Chicago is very very is. It's very bad right now,
and we don't have the leadership pipeline from our older
leaders who are now old in age.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
They didn't pass the tourist and creating leaders.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're a stand up guy, but you can't do all
this by yourself. Where the other guys.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm trying to build them up now.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So I'm at my age from the last you know,
ten years since you know, I've been on the scene
more than ten years, but fifteen years. I'm training other
activists and putting them in my spaces. Right as a
young person, you would think that I'll just be a
leader for many years. I'm believing, and so I'm already
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creating gen Z and so gen Z when you look
at the movement during George Floyd, I led the first
week of protest for the George Floyd family, and then
I transferred over to gen Z gen Z in Chicago
and other cities where, you know, especially in Chicago where
a lot of the young people that I mentored over
the years who led the movements. Now, so you know,
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we got to build up the next generation of young leaders,
and I'm trying to do my party doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, I'm down with the young leaders. But let me
talk about an old leader for a second. What's up
with mister Jesse Jackson? And how can we even't done
some type of tribute to this brother and gave a
great honor. I mean he to me, he's one of
the last living civil rights leaders from our sixty era,
you know, and he's one who's still standing there even
though he can barely stand. He's still standing with his
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Operation Push and Brad Basket and that whole thing. And
now I know there's a new person's Stepanie in. But
before this gentleman leaves this planet, I think we have
a responsibility to do something for Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, so in Chicago is your town, I want
to say his O town, But I live in la
right now. I ain't just don no, I ain't just
done no trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Just.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
You know, let me say this, Mike, there's the relationship
that the rest of the country has of Jesse Jackson
is different from the relationship that Chicago has.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
What is that difference? What is that difference?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, we know Jesse, we we know him very well, right,
and so when the REV goes into other cities, he's
a super very big celebrity, right.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
He is the civil rights icon because people watch what
he does on and in Chicago. You know, he he
doesn't get the recognition of other cities give because he's
been very close to Chicago things for many years that
you know, a lot of people may not like a
lot of the things that he has done closely because
he's been here, right, And I think that's like that
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with a lot of liters, right. I think I'm sure
they will give him. I think they've given him tributes.
I'm sure they will give him more tributes. I've been
knowing him, you know, for at least half my life.
He has done a lot of great things. As a
lot of things I disagree with him on that we
stayed head button on. But you know, I respect him
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for his service.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
See that's the part that part right there. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I disagree with some stuff he do too, He did
too shoot. Some of the stuff he did piss me off,
especially when my president was running. But we have to
look at the overall picture and the vast majority of
the time he has stood for black people, you know.
And when you see Europeans man, they celebrate their heroes.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
They don't care if their.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Heroes are also murderers and robbers. They celebrate them and
put up statues and things. This is our guy, and
this should be a statue somewhere or something just really
beautiful and awesome.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And in my respect for his service is because I
know I live in Chicago. There's people that step up
and being one of those only people that when something happens,
black people look at to see what is he going
to say. I know how hard it was for many years,
and a lot of the impact that he made in
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different movements.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Me and the Red is no stranger to beefing at
times shout the years.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
But we have a relationship, very a good relationship where
he's even offered to have me take a raymore push
and which I declined.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But I thought you would be great at that A
moment ago I thought, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
My god, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That's not my mission, mission to be a civil rights
leador for the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Okay, I think that, you know, the economic fight around
the country is so important, you know, something that ill
so on for a period of time and then retire.
But I think we need to really bring forth the
next generation of leaders. It's unfortunate to look at a
lot of our black leadership today and the age that
they are, and to look back and they started, and
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to see that we haven't made it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Far and all.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And that's that's a very hard hard pill to swallow
for me to know that it could possibly be the
same way with me.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And it's just not a it's just not a journey
that I wanted to take.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, when we come back, I want to know what
your political aspirations are, What is it you would like
to do ideally here in this country and ideally in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But first we got to take a quick break. Go
take a pause for the calls.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Hey, y'allays, Michael talks to everybody, uh, and we get
to talk to everybody. I'm talking to this young man.
He's twenty eight. Man, he's already accomplished more than any
twenty eight year old I know. And he's still granting
the name of Chicago and righteousness. Hey, we'll be right
back in the moment talking to J Maul Green. I
want to find out about that generational Green see in a.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Minute, and we're black, my man, J Maul Green.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I want to start the second part of this by
just asking you what are your political aspirations? Because you
have been in the political arena here, You've run a
couple of times this mayor.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know what's going on around here. What is what
do you really want to do?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
You know, if you were talking to a Chicago and
they would say that Jay Mall is going to be
mayor of Chicago at some point.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And I think that this last selection showed us that it.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Depends on the time in which if I wanted to
really hang around and make that jump. But let me
just say again, you know our city is hurting, man.
You know, it really pains me to ride around our
city every day and watch how they've watched the vacancy,
watch the young I'm from the streets, so I go
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in every neighborhood, every gang, you know, every click, and
they respect me enough to you know, be in that
presence and really understand what's really going on on the streets.
And when I say every level is hurting, you know,
our poor education system. Our education system is so poor
that the president of the teachers union sending her kids
to private schools, you know what I'm saying, and that
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is to tell you something.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And those better than the centement of public schooling.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
In the public schools, and she represented them. You know,
you got the migrant crist the migrant crisis happening right now.
We got migrants laying on every block throughout the city
and they're sending them out of boat loads to Chicago,
and our mayriorage doesn't have a plan and it is
just getting out of control, and he's just signing over.
They've spent six hundred and fifty million dollars this year
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on migrants in the neighborhoods that are really suffering, have
never even gotten real investment. Our young people don't have
a pipeline to middle class or even the next generation
of jobs, right, and so where the next generation of
young people going into green energy with all this money
coming down and to be solar technicians and to be
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putting installing the charging stations. Where's the next mass excavator
developers and site. You know, we have so much talent
in Chicago that's being wasted, it's being killed, and it's
being failed in the schools.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That is it's a depressing you know, it's depressed in
How do.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
We harness that though? How do we harness that talent
and that energy?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
We need real leadership And the problem is is that
Chicago corrupt. Illinois corruption is real.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
And whether it's the unions or whether it is the
powers that be that has been in place for so
many years, they you know, continue to spend money to
damping the voices that really need to be at the
table to you know, make sure that people like me
can't get to the seat of power. I had to
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build everything that I've built, I built on my own.
I didn't built the Democratic Party. Don't like me, not
the leaders in power don't like.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Me because I have always spoken out against leadership. You know,
I'm one of the biggest reasons why Ron and Laurie
and all these other leaders are not in power now.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
So they hated me, and they said, we can't let
this young guy in because he won't play the game
with us, and me, I don't play the game. I
ain't trying to get invited to the Christmas party. I'm
trying to get things done for the people. And so
what I built and I show them I can build
on my own in this last election and get all
of those votes without them, and they have plenty more
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money than me.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Now they're scared, huh.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I would love to see you getting office.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'd love to see you be the mayor of Chicago
because I'm old and so I was here when mayor
and mayor, when the boss was here, Mayor Daily, the
real Mayor Daily daddy, not the child, and how he
ran this thing like Julius Caesar ran Rome. You know,
it's like, So it would be really great to see
you get in there. Sooner or lady, you're gonna have
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to get in because of these I've seen them put
up against you. The only thing they have against you
that they're part of the machine and you aren't yet,
and so because they got that machine affiliation, you still
got to break through all of that. But you don't
seem to be a feared you know, you came on
the scene and people got to know you because of
how you stood up for Lakwan McDonald when he got killed.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Better.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
But the police murdered him in the street.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Now, I'm trying to make sure it's the right one
because the police killed so many of us in the street.
He's the one who just had a knife, yep, and
he had a shirt off, so he just had on
slacks walking down the middle of the street with his
knife and they shot him to death.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And they shot him to death sixteen times. Jason van
Dyke he out with his family now.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
They gut a shot at three and a half years
and a half years yeah, wow, he's already.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Back out, already back out popping sixteen bullets in LaQuan.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
We did so much in that movement, and you know,
they tried to frame me during that time.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
You know, twenty sixteen charged me with non felonies, gave
me a three hundred and fifty thousand dollars Bond.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It was national news, was every you know there was.
I was a political prisoner.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Lieutenants, captains, sergeants, all white shirts all put charges on
me and said, oh, he tried to drop grab my gun,
he hit me.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
He did no evidence.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
They tried to ruin me because I was bringing four
or five thousand people every single day to the streets.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
My influence was too crazy for them.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I'm shutting down Michigan Avenue, I'm shutting nobody shopping, nobody
going on this highway.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It was.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
It was too hectic for him, and so they tried
to make me a political prisoner. And it wasn't until
Kim Fox, who we helped get in. Kim Fox walked
in those doors and she dropped all those phony charges
and said, I'm not charging Jmal green Footed for them
charges because we all know it was bullcraft nice.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
A lot of people I would lowed to say about
Kim Fox.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Kim Fox is retiring, but what I would say is
that she has kept her word on a lot of
different things, and she also helped save my life as well.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Wow, well shout out to her. Thank you, miss Fox
for that one you have here. I want to ask
you about AI. What do you think about AI?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
You know, when I think about AI is that we
better get a hold to it, We better use it
for how we want to use it.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Are you saying we in general?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Are we the black people or.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We black people? We? You know, we everybody and black
people for sure.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
But you know this is something that is emerging and
it's going it's happening regardless, and so we can it's
going to be used for bad, it's gonna be used
for good.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But we can use this to better our lives as well.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
So if we sit on the sidelines and let them
get all of this, then we won't get get any
pieces of wealth. That's what I mean about our young people, right,
These these young people are literally krjacking thousands of thousands
of cars every year. These young eleven, twelve, thirteen years old.
They can hack apps. They hacked Mercedes app and was
just carjacking all their cars. They know how to do
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all these things with technology. Right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
These are the innovators of the world. When you look
at I'm building a youth center right now. It's called
the Morgan all Stemp Star Center. All right, it's all
about the next generation of talent. These are the young people.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And it's called Morgan because it was formerly Garrett Morgan,
which is the school I got kicked out.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well I went I had left the school.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And Morgan invented the gas mask, black man, Yes, the
stoplight that I mean he had vented so many things.
These young people need to know. Look at these black
leaders that they don't teach you about. You can innovate
and create.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh, Garrett Morris invented to stop like Morgan Garrett.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Oh, I'm thinking Saturday Night Live. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
They need to know, like they need to know that
when you get guitar and you see gearship, that was
a black man, Richard Spikes, you feel me like if
they don't, they need to start saying that this is
you so you can use your gifts because you got
gifts to beat the next generation AI in ventnors to create,
you know, new technology for all the different things that
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are emerging in society.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And I want that place to be when Google, you're
getting your next talent right here.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
United Airlines you want your next generation of pilots, We're
gonna have We're going to have the next generation of
talent right here in every field because our young people
are ready to go.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They eat a pipeline. If you don't give them nothing,
they're gonna hit the streets.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
You know this, Mike, to give one point two billion
dollars at stake tonight over here for of the lotto.
If by gance, you hit that lotto for the one
point two.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Billion dollars, what would you do with it?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know I would.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I would create foundations all over chapters all over the
country that taught people financial literacy, that walk people through
the process of becoming homeowners and landowners, educate them on
building wealth and investing their money properly.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's that's number one.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And I would be giving away homes and uh folks
who actually take these courses and pass these courses.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Sewing Sewan.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
We have to start rebuilding black wealth in America, and
we don't start playing a game, we're gonna be in
net zero. And so that's number one is making sure
there is proper education, making sure there's resources, making sure
that we can invest in the next generation of talent,
that next gym, that that young person that got the
best app We need to be investing millions. Elon had
(23:31):
two or three million dollars Tesla he had got a
matching venture capitalists, I think to match him, and then
look at Tesla Now now he's the richest man in
the world.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You get what I'm saying. Why don't have an electric
car company that's built by black people?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
You know, like we don't have we guarante with the
car to get there on time.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Right. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That was terrible that I'm a black man. I love
black people, y'all to give me for that joke.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
That was bullshit, Go ahead, he's but these young people
they talented. They can engineer, reallenge it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
They take a phone and do magic with it. Man,
they could do anything. But how do we excite them
and get them focused and get them wanting to do
the things that change their lives with the institutions.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
And that's why I would build these institutions that all
over the country that when you walk in these doors,
we're gonna make sure you walk out in a pipe,
a pathway that's gonna change your life.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You know, we need that. Right now, we don't have
any institutions.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Anymore like that that are in neighborhoods that when young
people walk in and we can grab them.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
We need that you know it started the schools. We
don't have decent schools in our neighborhood. I mean, we
used to know how to do shit. When we got
out of high school. You could cook because you had
home eck at home. You learn how to our I
mean you knew they they had a trade. You can
go off and walk and fans some type of job
if you work your trade. None of that is there now.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Now it's just babysitting.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We gotta do it on our own, mic Do you
say it like it's easy. How do we do it easy?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
If we need unification, If we unified and build these
institutions that we pour it into, that we invested in,
and we build these institutions and say we gonna educate
our kids here. We're going to go to these companies
and say you gotta work with us and get our kids.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You get what I'm saying. We just need unification. We
can do that around the country.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
What's happening is you got too many people that are
independent doing their own thing.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
We got to start coming together. Mike, you know how
to teach this. You do this program.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You know I do this.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You bring this program, and let's bring this a test
institution and let's change our neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well, you have the perfect voice for the community to
get it going. How do people reach you so they
can join this movement, man, this mission to get us
back on our feet up right and reclaiming our communities
and reclaiming our wealth.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
How do they reach you for that?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
They can go everywhere. All my social media is actually
my name is Jamaal Greens. It ain't hard family on
any social media, any website, and really follow because I'm
doing a lot of educational home ownership, on real estate,
on invest in real estate, on financial literacy, and I.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Do these big events.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I've had a big house and expot last week, I
had a line around the block and High Park and
so people are ready, excitement is there?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
They just need the leadership and the guidance, and we're
gonna make sure that they get it. Because if we.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Start getting that money in power, Mike, now we can
start playing a political game because now we own something
and we got some wealth, so now we can fund
our own candidates and we can take y'all out.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So be careful because I thought you're gonna say now
that we got the money, they gonna kill all of
us now, So be careful because you know when you
have knowledge, you of power, and you have power, you
scare the people who don't really have it, you know,
So be careful. Keep on getting your troops together. They
know how to find you now. God is great, and
(26:51):
I appreciate you so much for saying, yes, you come
to the show today.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We talked to everybody, but really.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Do I get to talk to a political figure who's young, sharp, black, vibrant,
really care about the people, all the people, not just
the black people, because nobody can't govern, and if we
only govern ourselves in the society is full of all
types of peoples. So the people who respect everybody is
the one who rides to the top. Brother, And I
see you going every moment, and I appreciate you. I
(27:18):
thank you King, God bless you real good y'all. We've
been talking to Jay Maul Green Chicago. If you ask me,
Chicago hero, young activists, politician, gonna turn around and gonna
show us how to get our generational wealth together. I'm
trying to learn, y'all, all kinds of stuff you come
in from learning. I'm gonna try to learn you man.
(27:39):
I do it by having a variety of people on
here I talk to, so we do three shows a
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turn you right back on.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's gonna be good for everybody. God is great. Go
on and love yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know he already does love you, so you're gonna
be all right as soon as a swallowing go down.
I'm your boy, Michael Kaya and man, bye.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Woo. I had a good time today. I hope y'all
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Yes, Michael Saus? Did everybody? You know what sho?
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This is your boy.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Michael Kaye from the projects, Robert Tayler Home four three
fifty two South State, probably nine oh nine. From there,
I sleep it on out to Morgan Park one thirteen
fifty six offth carpent to Well. I graduated nineteen seventy
five m P High for Life. The Chicago edition of
Michael talks to everybody. And we have one of Chicago's
young heroes here, a man that I'm honored to you
(01:15):
to know, I mean young, Are you.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Still twenty eight or older? Twenty eight? Just turned twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Like August ninth or nineteenth, the ninth.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
August night, right, right, right? So he just turned twenty
at this guy?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
First of all, he is a community activist, and he's
Chicago's youngest mayoral candidate. He ran twice. He's the youngest candidate.
I was most fascinated by class clown. You were a
class clown at your school.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
For sure, kicked out of nine schools.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You get kicked out of nine schools, nine.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Schools, Mike, Yeah, real street Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You're a revolutionary for real, and you have the smile
that says you up to something, you know what, look
like you're about to do something you ain't supposed to do.
But I've never really seen you. I never seen you
be anything but serious.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yep, for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh my goodness. Okay, tell me about the family. You
got kids, wife, what yeap?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Hopefully be married soon?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I got so I can't say that, but three children,
Jamal Junior, Jalen and Jaden started I was nineteen, So.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You love to hear your own name just Jayleen.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Jayleen j J. All right, go ahead, started to be
George Foreman and named the mal j Mal. But I say,
you know what, there you go. Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What was interesting is we had George Forman a third
on here, and he broke it down for us why
he did that, and that they weren't really clear on
who his father, whose father's father was when he's coming up,
and he said he wanted to make sure that never
happens in his family, so he made sure all of
them knew where they came from. George Part one George anyway.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So yes, they're amazing boys, and we have an amazing family.
I can't, you know, complain out my blessings. And really
they love watching what's going on with me and following
in my footsteps. And they just got haircuts that look
like mine's. They're like, we want to have the same
(03:13):
haircuts if you didn't change your hair cut up.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I said, all right, fine, and uh you better embrace that.
Oh yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
How old if they're doing that? How ol today is eight?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah? My middle turned seven and then my youngest is four.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Oh yeah, that makes it. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Wait till they thirteen fourteen. See if they want the
same haircut, they won't even be talking to you. Then
y'all don't even talk the same language when they get
to that age.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
But let me get right to you. You are a
hero to me.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I appreciate what you've done, going all the way back
to the Chase Bank debacle, the Chase Bank thing where
they weren't giving money to the black community but only
the white community, and you stepped up.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Can you tell me briefly about that.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, Chase Bank, and I lived in to the South
and the West Side.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It's for a six year period from twenty twelve to
twenty eighteen, and so what we saw consistently year after
year was they were giving hundreds of millions to white
neighborhood and not even a billion to a black, predominantly
black neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And if you know, you know it's very segregated.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
So black communities is predominantly black, White communities predominantly white.
And so a neighborhood like Lincoln Park got a billion
dollars of six years, and then we got like a
million dollars through the whole six years. So it was
showing that they were being intentional and not investing in
black neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And when you look at the the fault race, the
fault rates are the same.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
There is nothing that can show that these people in
these neighborhoods couldn't qualify as people that Chase just decided
not to in in those communities.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
We stepped up, you know, I told you where I'm from.
We know where we're from, right, and we.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Sat down branches, so you literally would go on to
brand just say everybody, finish your transactions and shut this
place down and shut down branch out the branch to
shut down with thirty five.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Wait, what do you mean shut it down?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You stand in front of the door and don't let
anybody else wan, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
No, what do you do? How do you shut it down?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't stand in front of doors.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I go in and I let everybody know that they
got to finish their transactions and everybody got to get
out of How.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Come security and come and grab you better, scirf of
your neck and throw you out the door.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, they don't want those problems, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So you know you don't walk in by yourself, do you?
You go in with a small group.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I gotta I gotta, I gotta tea with me, you know,
so you know, end of the day, Chase new Chase
Chase caught.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
On and what they start doing.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
After I had my first meeting with him, I told them, well,
unless y'all come with some something good, I want a
billion dollars, then you know we're gonna keep.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Shutting these down.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Uh. Chase Chase told directed. They created a group chat
with all their managers.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They said, where y'all see j Mal just shut down
all the branches in the area.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
And while winning one branch, they would shut it down,
and they would shut down any branch in nearby and
send all the employees home. You know, we were shutting
down branches all over the city. Was very hard to
get into a Chase bank at that time.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And they got tired of it and they gave in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They gave in what they agreed to do.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
They agreed.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
They agreed to a billion dollar investment as far as
six hundred million and loans another couple hundred million in
grants and down payment assistance. They hired these new I
forgot what they called them, but they are some community
reps that they hired that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Helped folks through the home ownership process, and they're not
on their own salary. You know, they give a lot
of money to financial literacy into organizations.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So if you see Chase sponsoring much of everything in Chicago,
it's it's due to our movement.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And they came out and they acknowledged my fight as well.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So why did you make it your fight? You a
young dude, You could be doing all kind of stuff.
Why are you fighting with the bank? Well, you know,
somebody got to do it, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Unfortunately, love that we have our leadership is terrible right now, man,
and a lot of our leaders are very older that
never passed the torch. And so in Chicago, we don't
have no real organizations or real leaders to step up.
I'm one of the most influential, influential black leaders in
the state. And that's terrible, right because what happens is
(07:23):
when things happen, they look at me, right and say,
what is j Mar going to do? And it's a
lot of pressure.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, Jesse Jackson is just retired.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know, we don't have like an NAACPDAB Any Footing
Urban League is.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
An an older organization that you know, so there's a
lot of there.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
There's no one that really says anything when things happen
to black people in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
A lot of other organizations are just getting money.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
And so unfortunately, just like July first, they came out
with a study that showed that Illinois was number fifty
and equity in the country and the large racial wealth
gap in the country. And so when it came out
that black business and majority of black businesses are barely
making fifty thousand dollars a year in Chicago, that we
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are the most unemployed in Chicago. When you look at
the ratios from cities, you know, there's no one saying
thing Chicago is very very is. It's very bad right now,
and we don't have the leadership pipeline from our older
leaders who are now old in age.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
They didn't pass the tourist and creating leaders.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're a stand up guy, but you can't do all
this by yourself. Where the other guys.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm trying to build them up now.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So I'm at my age from the last you know,
ten years since you know, I've been on the scene
more than ten years, but fifteen years. I'm training other
activists and putting them in my spaces. Right as a
young person, you would think that I'll just be a
leader for many years. I'm believing, and so I'm already
(09:03):
creating gen Z and so gen Z when you look
at the movement during George Floyd, I led the first
week of protest for the George Floyd family, and then
I transferred over to gen Z gen Z in Chicago
and other cities where, you know, especially in Chicago where
a lot of the young people that I mentored over
the years who led the movements. Now, so you know,
(09:24):
we got to build up the next generation of young leaders,
and I'm trying to do my party doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, I'm down with the young leaders. But let me
talk about an old leader for a second. What's up
with mister Jesse Jackson? And how can we even't done
some type of tribute to this brother and gave a
great honor. I mean he to me, he's one of
the last living civil rights leaders from our sixty era,
you know, and he's one who's still standing there even
though he can barely stand. He's still standing with his
(09:54):
Operation Push and Brad Basket and that whole thing. And
now I know there's a new person's Stepanie in. But
before this gentleman leaves this planet, I think we have
a responsibility to do something for Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, so in Chicago is your town, I want
to say his O town, But I live in la
right now. I ain't just don no, I ain't just
done no trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Just.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
You know, let me say this, Mike, there's the relationship
that the rest of the country has of Jesse Jackson
is different from the relationship that Chicago has.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
What is that difference? What is that difference?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, we know Jesse, we we know him very well, right,
and so when the REV goes into other cities, he's
a super very big celebrity, right.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
He is the civil rights icon because people watch what
he does on and in Chicago. You know, he he
doesn't get the recognition of other cities give because he's
been very close to Chicago things for many years that
you know, a lot of people may not like a
lot of the things that he has done closely because
he's been here, right, And I think that's like that
(11:02):
with a lot of liters, right. I think I'm sure
they will give him. I think they've given him tributes.
I'm sure they will give him more tributes. I've been
knowing him, you know, for at least half my life.
He has done a lot of great things. As a
lot of things I disagree with him on that we
stayed head button on. But you know, I respect him
(11:23):
for his service.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
See that's the part that part right there. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I disagree with some stuff he do too, He did
too shoot. Some of the stuff he did piss me off,
especially when my president was running. But we have to
look at the overall picture and the vast majority of
the time he has stood for black people, you know.
And when you see Europeans man, they celebrate their heroes.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
They don't care if their.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Heroes are also murderers and robbers. They celebrate them and
put up statues and things. This is our guy, and
this should be a statue somewhere or something just really
beautiful and awesome.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And in my respect for his service is because I
know I live in Chicago. There's people that step up
and being one of those only people that when something happens,
black people look at to see what is he going
to say. I know how hard it was for many years,
and a lot of the impact that he made in
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different movements.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Me and the Red is no stranger to beefing at
times shout the years.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
But we have a relationship, very a good relationship where
he's even offered to have me take a raymore push
and which I declined.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But I thought you would be great at that A
moment ago I thought, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
My god, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That's not my mission, mission to be a civil rights
leador for the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Okay, I think that, you know, the economic fight around
the country is so important, you know, something that ill
so on for a period of time and then retire.
But I think we need to really bring forth the
next generation of leaders. It's unfortunate to look at a
lot of our black leadership today and the age that
they are, and to look back and they started, and
(13:04):
to see that we haven't made it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Far and all.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And that's that's a very hard hard pill to swallow
for me to know that it could possibly be the
same way with me.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And it's just not a it's just not a journey
that I wanted to take.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, when we come back, I want to know what
your political aspirations are, What is it you would like
to do ideally here in this country and ideally in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But first we got to take a quick break. Go
take a pause for the calls.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Hey, y'allays, Michael talks to everybody, uh, and we get
to talk to everybody. I'm talking to this young man.
He's twenty eight. Man, he's already accomplished more than any
twenty eight year old I know. And he's still granting
the name of Chicago and righteousness. Hey, we'll be right
back in the moment talking to J Maul Green. I
want to find out about that generational Green see in a.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Minute, and we're black, my man, J Maul Green.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I want to start the second part of this by
just asking you what are your political aspirations? Because you
have been in the political arena here, You've run a
couple of times this mayor.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know what's going on around here. What is what
do you really want to do?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
You know, if you were talking to a Chicago and
they would say that Jay Mall is going to be
mayor of Chicago at some point.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And I think that this last selection showed us that it.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Depends on the time in which if I wanted to
really hang around and make that jump. But let me
just say again, you know our city is hurting, man.
You know, it really pains me to ride around our
city every day and watch how they've watched the vacancy,
watch the young I'm from the streets, so I go
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in every neighborhood, every gang, you know, every click, and
they respect me enough to you know, be in that
presence and really understand what's really going on on the streets.
And when I say every level is hurting, you know,
our poor education system. Our education system is so poor
that the president of the teachers union sending her kids
to private schools, you know what I'm saying, and that
(15:18):
is to tell you something.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And those better than the centement of public schooling.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
In the public schools, and she represented them. You know,
you got the migrant crist the migrant crisis happening right now.
We got migrants laying on every block throughout the city
and they're sending them out of boat loads to Chicago,
and our mayriorage doesn't have a plan and it is
just getting out of control, and he's just signing over.
They've spent six hundred and fifty million dollars this year
(15:45):
on migrants in the neighborhoods that are really suffering, have
never even gotten real investment. Our young people don't have
a pipeline to middle class or even the next generation
of jobs, right, and so where the next generation of
young people going into green energy with all this money
coming down and to be solar technicians and to be
(16:05):
putting installing the charging stations. Where's the next mass excavator
developers and site. You know, we have so much talent
in Chicago that's being wasted, it's being killed, and it's
being failed in the schools.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That is it's a depressing you know, it's depressed in
How do.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
We harness that though? How do we harness that talent
and that energy?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
We need real leadership And the problem is is that
Chicago corrupt. Illinois corruption is real.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
And whether it's the unions or whether it is the
powers that be that has been in place for so
many years, they you know, continue to spend money to
damping the voices that really need to be at the
table to you know, make sure that people like me
can't get to the seat of power. I had to
(16:55):
build everything that I've built, I built on my own.
I didn't built the Democratic Party. Don't like me, not
the leaders in power don't like.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Me because I have always spoken out against leadership. You know,
I'm one of the biggest reasons why Ron and Laurie
and all these other leaders are not in power now.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
So they hated me, and they said, we can't let
this young guy in because he won't play the game
with us, and me, I don't play the game. I
ain't trying to get invited to the Christmas party. I'm
trying to get things done for the people. And so
what I built and I show them I can build
on my own in this last election and get all
of those votes without them, and they have plenty more
(17:33):
money than me.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Now they're scared, huh.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I would love to see you getting office.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'd love to see you be the mayor of Chicago
because I'm old and so I was here when mayor
and mayor, when the boss was here, Mayor Daily, the
real Mayor Daily daddy, not the child, and how he
ran this thing like Julius Caesar ran Rome. You know,
it's like, So it would be really great to see
you get in there. Sooner or lady, you're gonna have
(17:58):
to get in because of these I've seen them put
up against you. The only thing they have against you
that they're part of the machine and you aren't yet,
and so because they got that machine affiliation, you still
got to break through all of that. But you don't
seem to be a feared you know, you came on
the scene and people got to know you because of
how you stood up for Lakwan McDonald when he got killed.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Better.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
But the police murdered him in the street.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Now, I'm trying to make sure it's the right one
because the police killed so many of us in the street.
He's the one who just had a knife, yep, and
he had a shirt off, so he just had on
slacks walking down the middle of the street with his
knife and they shot him to death.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And they shot him to death sixteen times. Jason van
Dyke he out with his family now.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
They gut a shot at three and a half years
and a half years yeah, wow, he's already.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Back out, already back out popping sixteen bullets in LaQuan.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
We did so much in that movement, and you know,
they tried to frame me during that time.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
You know, twenty sixteen charged me with non felonies, gave
me a three hundred and fifty thousand dollars Bond.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It was national news, was every you know there was.
I was a political prisoner.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Lieutenants, captains, sergeants, all white shirts all put charges on
me and said, oh, he tried to drop grab my gun,
he hit me.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
He did no evidence.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
They tried to ruin me because I was bringing four
or five thousand people every single day to the streets.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
My influence was too crazy for them.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I'm shutting down Michigan Avenue, I'm shutting nobody shopping, nobody
going on this highway.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It was.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
It was too hectic for him, and so they tried
to make me a political prisoner. And it wasn't until
Kim Fox, who we helped get in. Kim Fox walked
in those doors and she dropped all those phony charges
and said, I'm not charging Jmal green Footed for them
charges because we all know it was bullcraft nice.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
A lot of people I would lowed to say about
Kim Fox.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Kim Fox is retiring, but what I would say is
that she has kept her word on a lot of
different things, and she also helped save my life as well.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Wow, well shout out to her. Thank you, miss Fox
for that one you have here. I want to ask
you about AI. What do you think about AI?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
You know, when I think about AI is that we
better get a hold to it, We better use it
for how we want to use it.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Are you saying we in general?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Are we the black people or.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We black people? We? You know, we everybody and black
people for sure.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
But you know this is something that is emerging and
it's going it's happening regardless, and so we can it's
going to be used for bad, it's gonna be used
for good.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But we can use this to better our lives as well.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
So if we sit on the sidelines and let them
get all of this, then we won't get get any
pieces of wealth. That's what I mean about our young people, right,
These these young people are literally krjacking thousands of thousands
of cars every year. These young eleven, twelve, thirteen years old.
They can hack apps. They hacked Mercedes app and was
just carjacking all their cars. They know how to do
(20:52):
all these things with technology. Right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
These are the innovators of the world. When you look
at I'm building a youth center right now. It's called
the Morgan all Stemp Star Center. All right, it's all
about the next generation of talent. These are the young people.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And it's called Morgan because it was formerly Garrett Morgan,
which is the school I got kicked out.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well I went I had left the school.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And Morgan invented the gas mask, black man, Yes, the
stoplight that I mean he had vented so many things.
These young people need to know. Look at these black
leaders that they don't teach you about. You can innovate
and create.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh, Garrett Morris invented to stop like Morgan Garrett.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Oh, I'm thinking Saturday Night Live. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
They need to know, like they need to know that
when you get guitar and you see gearship, that was
a black man, Richard Spikes, you feel me like if
they don't, they need to start saying that this is
you so you can use your gifts because you got
gifts to beat the next generation AI in ventnors to create,
you know, new technology for all the different things that
(22:04):
are emerging in society.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And I want that place to be when Google, you're
getting your next talent right here.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
United Airlines you want your next generation of pilots, We're
gonna have We're going to have the next generation of
talent right here in every field because our young people
are ready to go.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They eat a pipeline. If you don't give them nothing,
they're gonna hit the streets.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
You know this, Mike, to give one point two billion
dollars at stake tonight over here for of the lotto.
If by gance, you hit that lotto for the one
point two.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Billion dollars, what would you do with it?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know I would.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I would create foundations all over chapters all over the
country that taught people financial literacy, that walk people through
the process of becoming homeowners and landowners, educate them on
building wealth and investing their money properly.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's that's number one.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And I would be giving away homes and uh folks
who actually take these courses and pass these courses.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Sewing Sewan.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
We have to start rebuilding black wealth in America, and
we don't start playing a game, we're gonna be in
net zero. And so that's number one is making sure
there is proper education, making sure there's resources, making sure
that we can invest in the next generation of talent,
that next gym, that that young person that got the
best app We need to be investing millions. Elon had
(23:31):
two or three million dollars Tesla he had got a
matching venture capitalists, I think to match him, and then
look at Tesla Now now he's the richest man in
the world.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You get what I'm saying. Why don't have an electric
car company that's built by black people?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
You know, like we don't have we guarante with the
car to get there on time.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Right. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That was terrible that I'm a black man. I love
black people, y'all to give me for that joke.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
That was bullshit, Go ahead, he's but these young people
they talented. They can engineer, reallenge it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
They take a phone and do magic with it. Man,
they could do anything. But how do we excite them
and get them focused and get them wanting to do
the things that change their lives with the institutions.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
And that's why I would build these institutions that all
over the country that when you walk in these doors,
we're gonna make sure you walk out in a pipe,
a pathway that's gonna change your life.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You know, we need that. Right now, we don't have
any institutions.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Anymore like that that are in neighborhoods that when young
people walk in and we can grab them.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
We need that you know it started the schools. We
don't have decent schools in our neighborhood. I mean, we
used to know how to do shit. When we got
out of high school. You could cook because you had
home eck at home. You learn how to our I
mean you knew they they had a trade. You can
go off and walk and fans some type of job
if you work your trade. None of that is there now.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Now it's just babysitting.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We gotta do it on our own, mic Do you
say it like it's easy. How do we do it easy?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
If we need unification, If we unified and build these
institutions that we pour it into, that we invested in,
and we build these institutions and say we gonna educate
our kids here. We're going to go to these companies
and say you gotta work with us and get our kids.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You get what I'm saying. We just need unification. We
can do that around the country.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
What's happening is you got too many people that are
independent doing their own thing.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
We got to start coming together. Mike, you know how
to teach this. You do this program.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You know I do this.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You bring this program, and let's bring this a test
institution and let's change our neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well, you have the perfect voice for the community to
get it going. How do people reach you so they
can join this movement, man, this mission to get us
back on our feet up right and reclaiming our communities
and reclaiming our wealth.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
How do they reach you for that?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
They can go everywhere. All my social media is actually
my name is Jamaal Greens. It ain't hard family on
any social media, any website, and really follow because I'm
doing a lot of educational home ownership, on real estate,
on invest in real estate, on financial literacy, and I.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Do these big events.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I've had a big house and expot last week, I
had a line around the block and High Park and
so people are ready, excitement is there?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
They just need the leadership and the guidance, and we're
gonna make sure that they get it. Because if we.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Start getting that money in power, Mike, now we can
start playing a political game because now we own something
and we got some wealth, so now we can fund
our own candidates and we can take y'all out.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So be careful because I thought you're gonna say now
that we got the money, they gonna kill all of
us now, So be careful because you know when you
have knowledge, you of power, and you have power, you
scare the people who don't really have it, you know,
So be careful. Keep on getting your troops together. They
know how to find you now. God is great, and
(26:51):
I appreciate you so much for saying, yes, you come
to the show today.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We talked to everybody, but really.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Do I get to talk to a political figure who's young, sharp, black, vibrant,
really care about the people, all the people, not just
the black people, because nobody can't govern, and if we
only govern ourselves in the society is full of all
types of peoples. So the people who respect everybody is
the one who rides to the top. Brother, And I
see you going every moment, and I appreciate you. I
(27:18):
thank you King, God bless you real good y'all. We've
been talking to Jay Maul Green Chicago. If you ask me,
Chicago hero, young activists, politician, gonna turn around and gonna
show us how to get our generational wealth together. I'm
trying to learn, y'all, all kinds of stuff you come
in from learning. I'm gonna try to learn you man.
(27:39):
I do it by having a variety of people on
here I talk to, so we do three shows a
week brand new, and don't forget to also watch me
on the Michael Caye Morning Show five days a week
on YouTube. Tell you Mama and Pooky and them, get
off the couch and turn us on, cause we're gonna
turn you right back on.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's gonna be good for everybody. God is great. Go
on and love yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know he already does love you, so you're gonna
be all right as soon as a swallowing go down.
I'm your boy, Michael Kaya and man, bye.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Woo. I had a good time today. I hope y'all
did too.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Man, Thank y'all for checking us out here at Michael
talks to everybody. Hey, you can follow me, man, I'm
easy to follow. I'm on Instagram just under act Michael Kaya.
I'm on TikTok. That's Michael Kaye one three five. I
have a very sexety webpage called the Realmichael.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Kaye dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You know, you go over there you can find out
a bout my merchandise and what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And where all my shows. Our airthing is right there.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Or if you really love me, you can go to
my cashapp.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's dollar Sign Michael Kaya's money. I'm playing with y'all,
but I accept Green Stem foods, the Canadian money. I'll
take your bus transfer if it's got some time left
on it. And my morning show, oh my goodness, the
Michael Kaye Morning Show. That's seven eight m Pacific time, YO,
five days a week.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
This has been a ray Lock Group production. I see
y'all later
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