October 13, 2024 • 9 mins
In this conversation, Minnesota Tim discusses the potential contract of Minnesota Vikings quarterback Sam Darnold, who is having a standout season. He compares Darnold's situation to that of Baker Mayfield, who secured a lucrative contract after a successful season. The discussion delves into the dynamics of NFL contracts, the influence of team situations on player performance, and the perceptions of NFL executives regarding quarterback talent.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Earlier reports are already indicating that Minnesota Vikings quarterback Sam Donald,
who has clearly had the best season of his NFL career,
could be making bank this offseason.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
An earlier report comes from the Pioneer.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Presses Charlie Walters, and the report says that his contract
could be worth at least fifty million a season over
three or four years, with at least one hundred million guaranteed.
Charlie Walters says Vikings quarterback Sam Donald could be cashing
(00:50):
in this offseason. That's the market these days for competent
NFL quarterbacks. Is Sam Donald worth fifty million dollars a year?
Is he worth one hundred million dollars guaranteed? It's hard because, oh,
(01:12):
he has played very.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Good this season.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
But aren't the other teams out there curious that he's
played well for the Minnesota Vikings with Justin Jefferson, with
Jordan Andison, with Aaron Jones, with Kevin O'Connell, and with
the Minnesota Vikings defense playing out of their mind? Doesn't
(01:41):
some sense of other teams around the National Football League
believe that Sam Darnold's play is partly because of his
ability he's shown with the Minnesota Vikings, meaning the Minnesota
(02:04):
Vikings situation is so good, so ripe for a quarterback
to have his best season of his career that that
could be why Or are other team's egos so huge
that they believe they could replicate Sam Darnold's success with
(02:27):
the Minnesota Vikings with their own franchise and organization. Now
that's probably true. These guys that run NFL franchises that
are head coaches believe every year that their team could
be the could be the one that gets it done,
and they believe that they have the talent.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
The abilities.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's partly why they are where they are because they
had a belief that they could get to where they are.
But also they have a belief that against them where
they are. And it doesn't necessarily mean they see every
think objective. It means that they believe they are God's
great this creation. Ever, so his blessing is also somewhat.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Of a curse in that situation.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
To understand the situation fully, I think we need to
compare Sam Darnald to another quarterback in the NFL currently
that's a starting quarterback that has bounced around the league
similarly to Sam Darnald, this player was a top pick.
This player has played for multiple teams already. He's already
(03:34):
on his fourth team, just like Sam Darnald is on
his fourth team. And if you're wondering, oh, who's this guy,
who's the starting quarterback, maybe you know it. Baker Mayfield
drafted number one by the Browns. Didn't work out there,
goes to the Panthers, doesn't work out there, plays a
few games for the Rams, doesn't work out there, signs
a deal with the Buccaneers, battles it out in camp
(03:57):
to be QB one, takes Theccaneers to the playoffs, wins
a playoff game against the Philadelphia Eagles, and then Baker
Mayfield signs a big contract extension with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
And here are Baker Mayfield's contract terms per per spot Track.
(04:24):
With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he is a He signed
a three year, one hundred million dollar contract, signing bonus
twenty eight million dollars guaranteed. That signing forty million dollars
and total guaranteed is fifty million dollars. So after one
(04:51):
really good season for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, following years
of struggles with the Browns, Panthers and Rams. Baker Mayfield
got the bake. I am not doubting that Sam Donald
will get paid this offseason, either by the Minnesota Vikings
(05:12):
or by another team in this league, specifically a team like.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The Raiders who will need a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You're not bringing Aiden O'Connell or Gardner Minshew back, and
they have good opportunities there. They got They've drafted that
tight end that's pretty good, rock Powers. They have other
wide receivers on the roster that are decent. They got
Devonte Adams if they don't trade them before the trade deadline.
(05:39):
There's other teams out there too that think they're quarterback
away from being good.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
The Raiders have a good defense.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It seems like it would be a logical fit for
Sam Donald to play for the Raiders next year. But
are you really gonna give him fifty million dollars a
year to a guy that has proven he's capable of
being a good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's the best wide receiver in.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Football, with the best second wide receiver in football, with
a top running back in football. His next contract could
be worth at least fifty million a season over three
or four years, with at least one hundred million guaranteed.
(06:22):
Baker Mayfield only got fifty million dollars guaranteed. I don't
think Sam Darnold is going to get one hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
We also need to consider the whole source.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I am not doubting Charlie Walters's sources, because I believe
he's got sources. He's been a sports columnist for a
long time. But he was the same guy that was
reporting that Minnesota Vikings could trade Justin Jefferson in the offseason.
And I'm not doubting the report of a Justin Jefferson trade.
(06:58):
I'm doubting the sources that he got it from. I
don't believe his sources were within the Minnesota Vikings organization.
I believe the sources were from other organizations that were
trying to trade.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
For Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And then he reported as oh, Vikings could ship Justin Jefferson. No,
that was never a consideration by Quesiadolpho Mensa and I
get gmspiild bull crap all the time, left and right
and down the middle, up and down, but you are
not trading your wide receiver one Justin Jefferson when you
(07:31):
just drafted a J. J. McCarthy to be your QB one,
and when you just brought in Sam Darnold, who needs
all the help he can get at the wide receiver position,
it just made no sense from the Minnesota Vikings perspective.
So the source came within a different organization that was
tried to acquire Justin Jefferson. It doesn't mean that the
(07:54):
Minnesota Vikings were trying to trade him. There's a massive
difference there, and I'm sure you all can understand that.
So the source also has to be considered. I don't
think Sam Donald is going to get one hundred million
dollars guaranteed this offseason.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't think it's going to be close to that.
Fifty million dollars a year over three or four years.
That is a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Of change to give Sam Donald. There's a lot of
season left to be played. Who knows how he's going
to perform in the second half of the season. His
last six quarters haven't been very good. The second half
against the Green Bay Packers and the entire game against
the New York Jets were not good football for Sam Donald.
(08:47):
He missthrows left and right, but hey, when he needed to,
he still led a game sealing drive field goal for
Will to throw at.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
The end of those games. But let's just get through
the season. But I don't like that. Let's not just
get through the season. Sam.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Donald is not gonna get paid one hundred million dollars
guaranteed this offseason.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Is this thing gonna happen? I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So is he gonna get paid more than he's getting
paid now ten million dollars a year?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes? Is he gonna get fifty million a year? No?
I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But maybe there's a team out there stupid enough that
would be willing to give Donald a four year, fifty
million dollars a year deal because they think they can
take what he did with Minnesota and do it with
their own organization.
Earlier reports are already indicating that Minnesota Vikings quarterback Sam Donald,
who has clearly had the best season of his NFL career,
could be making bank this offseason.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
An earlier report comes from the Pioneer.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Presses Charlie Walters, and the report says that his contract
could be worth at least fifty million a season over
three or four years, with at least one hundred million guaranteed.
Charlie Walters says Vikings quarterback Sam Donald could be cashing
(00:50):
in this offseason. That's the market these days for competent
NFL quarterbacks. Is Sam Donald worth fifty million dollars a year?
Is he worth one hundred million dollars guaranteed? It's hard because, oh,
(01:12):
he has played very.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Good this season.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
But aren't the other teams out there curious that he's
played well for the Minnesota Vikings with Justin Jefferson, with
Jordan Andison, with Aaron Jones, with Kevin O'Connell, and with
the Minnesota Vikings defense playing out of their mind? Doesn't
(01:41):
some sense of other teams around the National Football League
believe that Sam Darnold's play is partly because of his
ability he's shown with the Minnesota Vikings, meaning the Minnesota
(02:04):
Vikings situation is so good, so ripe for a quarterback
to have his best season of his career that that
could be why Or are other team's egos so huge
that they believe they could replicate Sam Darnold's success with
(02:27):
the Minnesota Vikings with their own franchise and organization. Now
that's probably true. These guys that run NFL franchises that
are head coaches believe every year that their team could
be the could be the one that gets it done,
and they believe that they have the talent.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
The abilities.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's partly why they are where they are because they
had a belief that they could get to where they are.
But also they have a belief that against them where
they are. And it doesn't necessarily mean they see every
think objective. It means that they believe they are God's
great this creation. Ever, so his blessing is also somewhat.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Of a curse in that situation.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
To understand the situation fully, I think we need to
compare Sam Darnald to another quarterback in the NFL currently
that's a starting quarterback that has bounced around the league
similarly to Sam Darnald, this player was a top pick.
This player has played for multiple teams already. He's already
(03:34):
on his fourth team, just like Sam Darnald is on
his fourth team. And if you're wondering, oh, who's this guy,
who's the starting quarterback, maybe you know it. Baker Mayfield
drafted number one by the Browns. Didn't work out there,
goes to the Panthers, doesn't work out there, plays a
few games for the Rams, doesn't work out there, signs
a deal with the Buccaneers, battles it out in camp
(03:57):
to be QB one, takes Theccaneers to the playoffs, wins
a playoff game against the Philadelphia Eagles, and then Baker
Mayfield signs a big contract extension with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
And here are Baker Mayfield's contract terms per per spot Track.
(04:24):
With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he is a He signed
a three year, one hundred million dollar contract, signing bonus
twenty eight million dollars guaranteed. That signing forty million dollars
and total guaranteed is fifty million dollars. So after one
(04:51):
really good season for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, following years
of struggles with the Browns, Panthers and Rams. Baker Mayfield
got the bake. I am not doubting that Sam Donald
will get paid this offseason, either by the Minnesota Vikings
(05:12):
or by another team in this league, specifically a team like.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The Raiders who will need a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You're not bringing Aiden O'Connell or Gardner Minshew back, and
they have good opportunities there. They got They've drafted that
tight end that's pretty good, rock Powers. They have other
wide receivers on the roster that are decent. They got
Devonte Adams if they don't trade them before the trade deadline.
(05:39):
There's other teams out there too that think they're quarterback
away from being good.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
The Raiders have a good defense.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It seems like it would be a logical fit for
Sam Donald to play for the Raiders next year. But
are you really gonna give him fifty million dollars a
year to a guy that has proven he's capable of
being a good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's the best wide receiver in.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Football, with the best second wide receiver in football, with
a top running back in football. His next contract could
be worth at least fifty million a season over three
or four years, with at least one hundred million guaranteed.
(06:22):
Baker Mayfield only got fifty million dollars guaranteed. I don't
think Sam Darnold is going to get one hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
We also need to consider the whole source.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I am not doubting Charlie Walters's sources, because I believe
he's got sources. He's been a sports columnist for a
long time. But he was the same guy that was
reporting that Minnesota Vikings could trade Justin Jefferson in the offseason.
And I'm not doubting the report of a Justin Jefferson trade.
(06:58):
I'm doubting the sources that he got it from. I
don't believe his sources were within the Minnesota Vikings organization.
I believe the sources were from other organizations that were
trying to trade.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
For Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And then he reported as oh, Vikings could ship Justin Jefferson. No,
that was never a consideration by Quesiadolpho Mensa and I
get gmspiild bull crap all the time, left and right
and down the middle, up and down, but you are
not trading your wide receiver one Justin Jefferson when you
(07:31):
just drafted a J. J. McCarthy to be your QB one,
and when you just brought in Sam Darnold, who needs
all the help he can get at the wide receiver position,
it just made no sense from the Minnesota Vikings perspective.
So the source came within a different organization that was
tried to acquire Justin Jefferson. It doesn't mean that the
(07:54):
Minnesota Vikings were trying to trade him. There's a massive
difference there, and I'm sure you all can understand that.
So the source also has to be considered. I don't
think Sam Donald is going to get one hundred million
dollars guaranteed this offseason.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't think it's going to be close to that.
Fifty million dollars a year over three or four years.
That is a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Of change to give Sam Donald. There's a lot of
season left to be played. Who knows how he's going
to perform in the second half of the season. His
last six quarters haven't been very good. The second half
against the Green Bay Packers and the entire game against
the New York Jets were not good football for Sam Donald.
(08:47):
He missthrows left and right, but hey, when he needed to,
he still led a game sealing drive field goal for
Will to throw at.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
The end of those games. But let's just get through
the season. But I don't like that. Let's not just
get through the season. Sam.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Donald is not gonna get paid one hundred million dollars
guaranteed this offseason.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Is this thing gonna happen? I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So is he gonna get paid more than he's getting
paid now ten million dollars a year?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes? Is he gonna get fifty million a year? No?
I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But maybe there's a team out there stupid enough that
would be willing to give Donald a four year, fifty
million dollars a year deal because they think they can
take what he did with Minnesota and do it with
their own organization.
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