June 19, 2025 • 17 mins
Tim discusses the recent comments made by LeBron James regarding ring culture in the NBA, arguing that while LeBron's perspective has merit, it overlooks the importance of championships in cementing a player's legacy. The conversation then shifts to Shedeur Sanders, the Cleveland Browns rookie quarterback, who was cited for reckless driving at 101 miles per hour, highlighting the lack of awareness that comes with being a fifth-round pick in the NFL. The episode concludes with a comparison of the two athletes' decisions, questioning who made the bigger mistake.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Who's the bigger dumbass Lebron James or should dour Sanders?
Lebron minks one of the most idiotic statements and shoulder
Sanders drives one hundred and one miles per hour. We're
gonna talk about all that on today's show, but first
I need you to check out five Star Bass Solutions
(00:28):
of Minneapolis, because they transformed our bathroom in forty eight hours.
We were in the market for a new bathroom. We
needed one badly because our prior bathroom was disgusting, embarrassing,
and moldy on healthy living conditions, and we didn't want
to wait eight weeks for a bathroom to get done.
So we found five Star Bass Solutions of Minneapolis, and
(00:50):
they transformed our bathroom in forty eight hours. Take a
look at the before and after pictures on YouTube if
that's where you're watching or listening the before pictures. We
had a blue floor, a blue step, handrails, MULDI shower, ugly, disgusting, embarrassing,
and unhealthy, and we needed something different. But we didn't
want to cram into our teeny tiny bathroom downstairs. So
(01:16):
we found five Star Bass Solutions of Minneapolis, and they
gave us a new floor, a new tub, a new shower,
a new sink. We went from one sink to two sinks,
a new vanity, and we love it. Everything is updated
and it was done in forty eight hours. Affordable payment plans,
free consultations. Why pay the same price for an eight
(01:40):
week project when you can pay the same price for
a forty eight hour project. Five Star bas Solutions of Minneapolis,
contact them today. All right, Lebron James, let's start there.
Here's what he had to say. Quote. I don't know
why it's discussed so much, especially when it comes to
(02:02):
me about ring culture. This is a situation where Lebron
James is sitting in a room filled with people that
only want to defend his own opinion and not push
(02:27):
back because he is the most powerful athlete in the world.
Because if he wasn't one of the most powerful athletes
in the world, someone would have went up to Lebron
and said, Yo, sit this one out because your comments
(02:48):
are completely wrong and you look like a dumbass. Because
when you take it with the con text that Lebron
is delivering it, I get what he's saying. He is
saying that why does a ring impact the career of
(03:10):
Charles Barkley and Karl Malone and John Stockton, Steve Nash.
And the truth of the matter is those players are
still Hall of Fame players, so not having a ring
didn't really impact the careers or legacies of those players.
(03:33):
But at the same time it did Not having a
ring did not influence whether these players or Hall of
famers or not, because they are Hall of Fame players,
but it does cement their legacy or impact their legacy
(03:55):
in terms of are you a top ten player of
all time or are you a top fifty player of
all time. Nobody would argue against the idea that Charles
Barkley is not a top fifty player, because he is,
but he's not a top ten player. There's a difference there.
(04:18):
Rings cement your legacy as one of the greats of
all time. And Lebron, when he was talking about his comments, says,
it's a team sport is a team thing, and it's true.
He's not wrong, but there also comes a responsibility of
(04:42):
great players to take the teams that they have and
make them great. Lebron leaves Cleveland to form the Big
Three in Miami. The Three in Miami get old and
then he forms a Big three in Cleveland. The Big
(05:07):
Three in Cleveland get worn out, burned out, demand trades,
leave's Cleveland, forms his Big two in Los Angeles with
him and Anthony Davis, and they win a championship in
the Bubble, which was a huge advantage for Lebron being
(05:31):
in the Bubble. And then Lebron comes out and says,
I don't know why ring culture is being discussed so
much in terms of what I've done. All Lebron has
done throughout his entire career is chase rings, balancing from
team to team to team, and there is no other
(05:59):
reason for joining and leaving the teams that he left
throughout his career. Lebron James was a ring chasing player,
and there's nothing wrong with being a ring chasing player.
But when you come out and have complete irrational thoughts
(06:23):
about why is it being discussed so much when it
comes to me about ring culture because you chased rings.
And what's funny about this is someone went into the
archives of Lebron James and found his comments after the
(06:44):
Cleveland Cavaliers won the two thy sixteen NBA Finals versus
the Golden State Warriors. Here's Lebron's comments.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That one made me a great player of all time.
For I was a super super ecstatic the win went
for Cleveland because of the fifty two year drought, Like
I was ecstatic, Like obviously I showed that. The first
wave of emotion was when y'all everyone saw me crying,
like that was all for fifty two years, everything the
sports going on to Cleveland. And then after I stopped,
(07:19):
I was like, that one right there made you the
greatest player of all time. No, that everybody was just
how they were greatest team of all time, Like there
was the greatest team ever assembled. And for us to
come back, you know the way we came back in
that fashion, I was like, you did you did something special.
That's probably one of the only times in my career
(07:41):
I felt like, oh shit, like you did something special.
I haven't really had time to really like sit back
and think, but that that was a moment.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Back in twenty sixteen, when Lebron won the title. Because
he won the championship against Golden State, he labeled himself
as the greatest of all time because he won a ring.
You can be a great player without a ring. Nobody
(08:12):
is diminishing the talent that Steve Nash and Charles Barkley were.
But you can't be the greatest of all time without
winning the championships, without winning the super Bowl or NBA Finals,
(08:34):
are Stanley Cup, our World Series. Because that's what cements legacies.
That's what takes a great player and makes him a legend.
What made Bird and Magic and Michael Jordan and Lebron James,
what has cemented their legacy is the amount of rings
(08:58):
that they have on a finger. And Lebron James made
a career about bouncing from team to team, forming big
threes and big twos. When his original team or his
second team got old and got worn out and couldn't
(09:19):
win anymore, so then he left enjoyed another younger big three,
then he left them when they left or got traded
or got hurt, and then joined his own big two
with Los Angeles. Lebron has made a career by joining
and making forces with the best team with the best players.
(09:42):
So this is why I made the point that I
made earlier. Of all the people in Lebron's corner are
people that agree with Lebron and say, yeah, you're right.
And if I was on Lebron's corner. I would probably
do the same thing, because if you want to stay
(10:06):
in Lebron's corner, you better tell him how great he is.
You better tell him that he is the best, or yeah,
he is right, or you might not be in his
corner anymore. You might not be in this posse. So
the fact that Lebron made these comments shows just how
(10:26):
unaware he is about his own playing career and the
decisions that he made. Lebron felt like he couldn't win
a championship with the original Cleveland Cavaliers roster, which is
fair because the best player outside of Lebron was Judis Ilagowskis,
(10:51):
and his co part in two thousand and seven when
they made it to the finals was Booby Jones. So
it's fair for Lebron to leave that roster filled with
players that couldn't win alongside of him. But let's call
(11:14):
it what it was. You were chasing rings, all right.
Chadeur Sanders drives one hundred and one miles prour. Here's
a story on ESPN. Cleveland Brown's rookie quarterback Shader Sanders
was cited by police early Tuesday morning for driving one
hundred and one miles prour. According to police reports, an
(11:37):
officer for the Strongsville, Ohio Police Department stopped Sanders at
twelve twenty four am for driving forty one miles prower
over the post at sixty miles prower speed limit in
his black Dodge t Rex truck. According to records, Chadeur
flying high one hundred and one miles per hour in Cleveland,
(12:05):
and the big problem with should do her driving one
hundred and one miles prour isn't even the fact that
he drove one hundred and one miles prour. The biggest
battle that he is going to fight is the fact
that he's a fifth round pick and he's expendable. Because
(12:27):
if you're a first round pick aka Jordan Aison from
the Vikings and you do something similar, well, your first
round pick he made a mistake, will bring it back
because you're talented. Now, Shudur has talent, but he is
also a fifth round pick that every single team in
the league passed up on multiple times. So his biggest
(12:48):
mistake was in his unawareness of or lack of awareness
of being a fifth round pick. And sure, he's probably
set for life because of the amount of money that
he made in college through endorsements and because of his
dad and who his dad is. But this is a
(13:10):
classic case of a player in the NFL thinking that
he's unstoppable and thinking that he is almost unbreakable. I
think one of the biggest shocks to the passing of
(13:32):
Kobe Bean Bryant is the fact that a player as
legendary as Kobe could die in a horrific plane crash,
which was awful, but I think that was the shock
to everybody, the fact that a player like Kobe, who
(13:53):
seems so unstoppable and has such a powerful will, could
be diminished by a mistake from a helicopter driver from
(14:14):
a pilot and Chadur Sanders by driving one hundred and
one miles power at twelve twenty four am. Thinks he's unstoppable.
He thinks that something like this, something horrific, couldn't happen
because he's Shadre Sanders and a quarterback in the NFL.
(14:38):
And you look at his decision and why he did
what he did. Jordan Addison had the greatest excuse ever,
My dog was sick or something along those lines. Shador
Sanders twelve to twenty four am. You know They always
say nothing good can happen after midnight, and that's saying
is so true. Once he's doing at twelve twenty forty,
(15:01):
I'm partying, going to bars, sleeping with girls. Who knows
what he was doing. But for a guy that's a
fifth round pick and expendable to drive this fast when
he's battling just to make the roster with four other
quarterbacks on the roster is a huge mistake. And we'll
(15:27):
see what happens next. Because of the Browns ownership situation,
he'll still probably make the roster and still probably start
this year, but this is a situation where he lacks awareness.
Even if a first round pick did this, it would
lack awareness. But the defense that a first round pick
(15:49):
has is the fact that he's a first round pick
and the team's invested millions into this player Tradeur Sanders.
He ain't making millions this year. He's making thousands, which
is still a lot of money, but he ain't making millions.
So a player or a team could cut this player
and be like, hey, sure, we lost five hundred thousand
(16:13):
dollars of a non guarantined contract anyway, so we're gonna
keep all the money in it so stupid mistake. Who's
the bigger dumb ass, Lebron James or should Dour. That's
a tough one because Shardure risked his life by driving
(16:34):
one hundred one miles power and Lebron's comments were just stupid,
unaware comments. Hm, I'm struggling with this one. I'm gonna
say should do because he's a fifth round pick. Lebron
(16:54):
made a dumb comment. This comment will just easily go
by the wayside eventually and people won't remember it in
a week or two. Radure driving one hundred one miles
per hour that's stupid. That's just dumb. Dumb decision, dumb decision.
(17:14):
All right, everyone, thanks for watching. Remember five Star Bass
Solutions of Minneapolis contact them today for a bathroom a
model in forty eight hours. Thanks for watching, and hope
everyone has a good day.
Who's the bigger dumbass Lebron James or should dour Sanders?
Lebron minks one of the most idiotic statements and shoulder
Sanders drives one hundred and one miles per hour. We're
gonna talk about all that on today's show, but first
I need you to check out five Star Bass Solutions
(00:28):
of Minneapolis, because they transformed our bathroom in forty eight hours.
We were in the market for a new bathroom. We
needed one badly because our prior bathroom was disgusting, embarrassing,
and moldy on healthy living conditions, and we didn't want
to wait eight weeks for a bathroom to get done.
So we found five Star Bass Solutions of Minneapolis, and
(00:50):
they transformed our bathroom in forty eight hours. Take a
look at the before and after pictures on YouTube if
that's where you're watching or listening the before pictures. We
had a blue floor, a blue step, handrails, MULDI shower, ugly, disgusting, embarrassing,
and unhealthy, and we needed something different. But we didn't
want to cram into our teeny tiny bathroom downstairs. So
(01:16):
we found five Star Bass Solutions of Minneapolis, and they
gave us a new floor, a new tub, a new shower,
a new sink. We went from one sink to two sinks,
a new vanity, and we love it. Everything is updated
and it was done in forty eight hours. Affordable payment plans,
free consultations. Why pay the same price for an eight
(01:40):
week project when you can pay the same price for
a forty eight hour project. Five Star bas Solutions of Minneapolis,
contact them today. All right, Lebron James, let's start there.
Here's what he had to say. Quote. I don't know
why it's discussed so much, especially when it comes to
(02:02):
me about ring culture. This is a situation where Lebron
James is sitting in a room filled with people that
only want to defend his own opinion and not push
(02:27):
back because he is the most powerful athlete in the world.
Because if he wasn't one of the most powerful athletes
in the world, someone would have went up to Lebron
and said, Yo, sit this one out because your comments
(02:48):
are completely wrong and you look like a dumbass. Because
when you take it with the con text that Lebron
is delivering it, I get what he's saying. He is
saying that why does a ring impact the career of
(03:10):
Charles Barkley and Karl Malone and John Stockton, Steve Nash.
And the truth of the matter is those players are
still Hall of Fame players, so not having a ring
didn't really impact the careers or legacies of those players.
(03:33):
But at the same time it did Not having a
ring did not influence whether these players or Hall of
famers or not, because they are Hall of Fame players,
but it does cement their legacy or impact their legacy
(03:55):
in terms of are you a top ten player of
all time or are you a top fifty player of
all time. Nobody would argue against the idea that Charles
Barkley is not a top fifty player, because he is,
but he's not a top ten player. There's a difference there.
(04:18):
Rings cement your legacy as one of the greats of
all time. And Lebron, when he was talking about his comments, says,
it's a team sport is a team thing, and it's true.
He's not wrong, but there also comes a responsibility of
(04:42):
great players to take the teams that they have and
make them great. Lebron leaves Cleveland to form the Big
Three in Miami. The Three in Miami get old and
then he forms a Big three in Cleveland. The Big
(05:07):
Three in Cleveland get worn out, burned out, demand trades,
leave's Cleveland, forms his Big two in Los Angeles with
him and Anthony Davis, and they win a championship in
the Bubble, which was a huge advantage for Lebron being
(05:31):
in the Bubble. And then Lebron comes out and says,
I don't know why ring culture is being discussed so
much in terms of what I've done. All Lebron has
done throughout his entire career is chase rings, balancing from
team to team to team, and there is no other
(05:59):
reason for joining and leaving the teams that he left
throughout his career. Lebron James was a ring chasing player,
and there's nothing wrong with being a ring chasing player.
But when you come out and have complete irrational thoughts
(06:23):
about why is it being discussed so much when it
comes to me about ring culture because you chased rings.
And what's funny about this is someone went into the
archives of Lebron James and found his comments after the
(06:44):
Cleveland Cavaliers won the two thy sixteen NBA Finals versus
the Golden State Warriors. Here's Lebron's comments.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That one made me a great player of all time.
For I was a super super ecstatic the win went
for Cleveland because of the fifty two year drought, Like
I was ecstatic, Like obviously I showed that. The first
wave of emotion was when y'all everyone saw me crying,
like that was all for fifty two years, everything the
sports going on to Cleveland. And then after I stopped,
(07:19):
I was like, that one right there made you the
greatest player of all time. No, that everybody was just
how they were greatest team of all time, Like there
was the greatest team ever assembled. And for us to
come back, you know the way we came back in
that fashion, I was like, you did you did something special.
That's probably one of the only times in my career
(07:41):
I felt like, oh shit, like you did something special.
I haven't really had time to really like sit back
and think, but that that was a moment.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Back in twenty sixteen, when Lebron won the title. Because
he won the championship against Golden State, he labeled himself
as the greatest of all time because he won a ring.
You can be a great player without a ring. Nobody
(08:12):
is diminishing the talent that Steve Nash and Charles Barkley were.
But you can't be the greatest of all time without
winning the championships, without winning the super Bowl or NBA Finals,
(08:34):
are Stanley Cup, our World Series. Because that's what cements legacies.
That's what takes a great player and makes him a legend.
What made Bird and Magic and Michael Jordan and Lebron James,
what has cemented their legacy is the amount of rings
(08:58):
that they have on a finger. And Lebron James made
a career about bouncing from team to team, forming big
threes and big twos. When his original team or his
second team got old and got worn out and couldn't
(09:19):
win anymore, so then he left enjoyed another younger big three,
then he left them when they left or got traded
or got hurt, and then joined his own big two
with Los Angeles. Lebron has made a career by joining
and making forces with the best team with the best players.
(09:42):
So this is why I made the point that I
made earlier. Of all the people in Lebron's corner are
people that agree with Lebron and say, yeah, you're right.
And if I was on Lebron's corner. I would probably
do the same thing, because if you want to stay
(10:06):
in Lebron's corner, you better tell him how great he is.
You better tell him that he is the best, or yeah,
he is right, or you might not be in his
corner anymore. You might not be in this posse. So
the fact that Lebron made these comments shows just how
(10:26):
unaware he is about his own playing career and the
decisions that he made. Lebron felt like he couldn't win
a championship with the original Cleveland Cavaliers roster, which is
fair because the best player outside of Lebron was Judis Ilagowskis,
(10:51):
and his co part in two thousand and seven when
they made it to the finals was Booby Jones. So
it's fair for Lebron to leave that roster filled with
players that couldn't win alongside of him. But let's call
(11:14):
it what it was. You were chasing rings, all right.
Chadeur Sanders drives one hundred and one miles prour. Here's
a story on ESPN. Cleveland Brown's rookie quarterback Shader Sanders
was cited by police early Tuesday morning for driving one
hundred and one miles prour. According to police reports, an
(11:37):
officer for the Strongsville, Ohio Police Department stopped Sanders at
twelve twenty four am for driving forty one miles prower
over the post at sixty miles prower speed limit in
his black Dodge t Rex truck. According to records, Chadeur
flying high one hundred and one miles per hour in Cleveland,
(12:05):
and the big problem with should do her driving one
hundred and one miles prour isn't even the fact that
he drove one hundred and one miles prour. The biggest
battle that he is going to fight is the fact
that he's a fifth round pick and he's expendable. Because
(12:27):
if you're a first round pick aka Jordan Aison from
the Vikings and you do something similar, well, your first
round pick he made a mistake, will bring it back
because you're talented. Now, Shudur has talent, but he is
also a fifth round pick that every single team in
the league passed up on multiple times. So his biggest
(12:48):
mistake was in his unawareness of or lack of awareness
of being a fifth round pick. And sure, he's probably
set for life because of the amount of money that
he made in college through endorsements and because of his
dad and who his dad is. But this is a
(13:10):
classic case of a player in the NFL thinking that
he's unstoppable and thinking that he is almost unbreakable. I
think one of the biggest shocks to the passing of
(13:32):
Kobe Bean Bryant is the fact that a player as
legendary as Kobe could die in a horrific plane crash,
which was awful, but I think that was the shock
to everybody, the fact that a player like Kobe, who
(13:53):
seems so unstoppable and has such a powerful will, could
be diminished by a mistake from a helicopter driver from
(14:14):
a pilot and Chadur Sanders by driving one hundred and
one miles power at twelve twenty four am. Thinks he's unstoppable.
He thinks that something like this, something horrific, couldn't happen
because he's Shadre Sanders and a quarterback in the NFL.
(14:38):
And you look at his decision and why he did
what he did. Jordan Addison had the greatest excuse ever,
My dog was sick or something along those lines. Shador
Sanders twelve to twenty four am. You know They always
say nothing good can happen after midnight, and that's saying
is so true. Once he's doing at twelve twenty forty,
(15:01):
I'm partying, going to bars, sleeping with girls. Who knows
what he was doing. But for a guy that's a
fifth round pick and expendable to drive this fast when
he's battling just to make the roster with four other
quarterbacks on the roster is a huge mistake. And we'll
(15:27):
see what happens next. Because of the Browns ownership situation,
he'll still probably make the roster and still probably start
this year, but this is a situation where he lacks awareness.
Even if a first round pick did this, it would
lack awareness. But the defense that a first round pick
(15:49):
has is the fact that he's a first round pick
and the team's invested millions into this player Tradeur Sanders.
He ain't making millions this year. He's making thousands, which
is still a lot of money, but he ain't making millions.
So a player or a team could cut this player
and be like, hey, sure, we lost five hundred thousand
(16:13):
dollars of a non guarantined contract anyway, so we're gonna
keep all the money in it so stupid mistake. Who's
the bigger dumb ass, Lebron James or should Dour. That's
a tough one because Shardure risked his life by driving
(16:34):
one hundred one miles power and Lebron's comments were just stupid,
unaware comments. Hm, I'm struggling with this one. I'm gonna
say should do because he's a fifth round pick. Lebron
(16:54):
made a dumb comment. This comment will just easily go
by the wayside eventually and people won't remember it in
a week or two. Radure driving one hundred one miles
per hour that's stupid. That's just dumb. Dumb decision, dumb decision.
(17:14):
All right, everyone, thanks for watching. Remember five Star Bass
Solutions of Minneapolis contact them today for a bathroom a
model in forty eight hours. Thanks for watching, and hope
everyone has a good day.
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