Audio Artifact: The FBI Tape

We air FBI audio recorded on 9/11 at the World Trade Center.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Before we begin, a quick note, I'm recording this on
Monday August. After twenty years of war. Kabbal and Afghanistan
fell to the Taliban yesterday again. At this very moment,
thousands of Afghans are crowded into Kabbal International Airport, desperately
trying to escape. Two hours ago, I saw disturbing video

(00:22):
that immediately reminded me of Nine eleven. People falling from
the sky, People clinging to the landing gear of American
planes trying to escape, little specs falling against a bright
blue backdrop. I've tried to avoid geopolitics on this show.
Nine eleven is just as much a human story. It
still is. And Afghans so desperate to escape they fall

(00:44):
from the sky is no different than an American on
nine eleven so desperate to escape they too fell from
a pie. Except this could have been avoided. There will
be time, endless time for politics. Not now. There is
an ongoing and building humanitarian catastrophe. Literally as I record this,
we America have a responsibility to rescue the tens of

(01:06):
thousands of Afghans who helped us during the past twenty
years and their families. The women activists and l g
B t Q, people and journalists who feel dire fear today.
We cannot abandon them. This is a podcast. We're not
going to change the world, but I know we have
heavy listenership in d C and even some listeners in Afghanistan.

(01:27):
Afghanistan has fallen, but we cannot abandon the men and
women who helped us, their families, the thousands of refugees
at the airport right now. We are not al Qaeda.
We should not be responsible for such chaos and desperation
that people are falling from the sky today. From my

(01:50):
Heart Radio, this is Missing on nine eleven, the story
of one woman who vanished on the eve of history
and my quest to find her. I'm your host, John Zack,

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So today a unique and unusual episode We've obtained and
will air for the first time FBI audio recorded at
the World Trade Center on nine eleven during the attacks.
It's the only uninterrupted recording of any kind to capture
both plane crashes. Snippets of it have aired before, but
never the entire thing. It would be easy for us

(02:50):
to cut it down two crashes and screams and cascading debris,
but I want to air everything. It's a piece of history,
the final hour of normalcy at the Trade Center and
then the attacks. How the audio came to be is
interesting in its own right. On nine eleven, around seven am,
two FBI agents and a New York City investigator met

(03:13):
with an informant named Stephen mcgardell near City Hall, not
far from the Trade Center. McCardell was a cooperating witness
and a corruption investigation. The agents wired him with a
recorder and separately a transmitter. You'll hear mcgardell walk to
the Trade Center, into the mall below the Trade Center.
You'll hear the murmurs of mundane life, the clock taking

(03:34):
to catastrophe. Six am. McCardell is in the Greenhouse cafe
inside the Marriott Hotel between the towers, on a bench
in the plaza. Just outside their backs to the north
tower are the three investigators, including FBI Special Agent Rodney Miller.
Boom stories. But I've felt the heat like right on

(03:57):
the back of my neck, as if it was right there.
So I can imagine the amount of flame and zee
that was going on within the building itself, that just
must have been in an intense fire ball that you
would fill it from such far away. Imagine heat on
your neck. Look up a skyscraper a quarter mile high
in the blue sky, A massive fireball metal and glass

(04:21):
rained down on you. It was a very close call.
Vividly one of the other agents that was running to
the overhang and like every time steps she ran like
a piece of debris with hit like right where a
foot picked up from the ground right. So it was
just kind of crazy how all that happened. Miller ran

(04:43):
into the north tower to a security desk. He called
his bosses at the FBI. He stayed in the lobby
only ten to twelve minutes, then charged up the stairs.
I get to the eighties six floor, and I'm a
man of faith, and I just stopped where I was,
and I clearly for the voice of God speak to me,

(05:05):
and he said, Rodney, there is no use going any
further up. It's time for you to leave and exit
the building and just take as many people with you.
And it was such a clear voice, because I even
remember stopping and turning to the voice, and it was clear,
and it gave me clearance starts. And so I go

(05:26):
back down to like the seventy ninth floor, I believe,
and right there I see one of the battalion fire
chiefs for the New York Fire Department, and I clearly say, hey, sir,
this is no use here. We have to get all
of our resources and personnel out of here immediately. And
as soon as I said that, the north towers started

(05:48):
to sway back and forth. I would say it was
almost a two ft sway inside the building. And I
believe that swaying was called by the collapse of the
south tower. So the south tower was hit second, but
collapsed first. So we felt the south tower collapsing, which
caused the north tower to sway back and forth. So

(06:09):
we hit the ground. We're laying on the ground because
the sway is so tremendous. And then at that point
the time far achieved, he totally agreed. He was like, right, yeah,
we're We're with you. And right then and there, all
the Fire Department personnel just started unhooking their gear, dumping
all their oxen and tanks, dumping all the heavy gear,

(06:30):
and we just started a race back towards the ground floor,
and whoever was still in the stairwell, we just just
kind of lifted them up, picked them up or carry
them and then departed the building. And one thing that
I vividly recall as I exit the building is this
everything is white from the collapse of the first building

(06:51):
and the dust, and I'm looking for my supervisor. I'm
looking for my fellow agents and personnel. But the scene
is totally quiet. It's serene, and everything is covered in white.
As my brain is trying to process what happened. Right then,
I'm like, my brain goes, oh, Rodney, watch your step
by the way, and I'm like, okay, why do I

(07:15):
need to watch my step because I was like, yeah,
I don't want to step on that human torso or
that head right there. So I don't know if you
can imagine that. Right, So I'm on the street. Everything's white,
everything's quiet, and then there's body parts strewn all over
the streets. So I walked further up the block. You know,

(07:37):
I'm trying to call into my supervisor to the command
on my radio. Everything is kind of blacked out. And
then three minutes after leaving the North Tower, you know,
I'm running to another overhang because the building I was
just in is started to collapse. Millard nearly died. The

(07:58):
fire department had called the ATBI office and said when's
the funeral for the I'm African American? When's the funeral
for the African American ABI agent? And they were like,
who are you talking about? He was like the guy
who told us to evacuate the building, because if he
didn't tell us to evacuate the building, many of us

(08:19):
would have died. So we wanted to celebrate or memorialize
his funeral. Was like, no, that that guy's Rodney Miller
and he's sitting right here. He survived, right And then
the FBI was in the dated with a lot of
letters from the folks that were in the staircase. You know,
thank you for that agent. You know, if it wasn't
for him, I would have made it out. Let me

(08:39):
ask you, so, when the plane hit and you were
in the plaza, did you see anyone laying injured in
the plaza? Did you see anyone who had been immediately
killed by debris in the plaza? And then also when
you were going down the stairs the last time, how
many people were left in the stairwells? Were they pretty empty?
It was pretty empty by that time. You just at

(09:00):
so there was no I didn't see anyone that was
because the plaza was pretty vacant, and it was fairly
hot that day, so it's really you know, not a
lot of people were launching around. Was just us out there,
so it was pretty vacant. You probably had the research
from what the angle the plane came in, but we
were out where the plane I guess came out the
blasts of the plane coming out, so we didn't see anything,

(09:23):
and it was very desolate at the particular place. And
then coming down the staircase was just kind of like
the stragglers, just you know, folks who were having trouble,
kind of exiting the building a timely matter, But we
grabbed all those folks and we exited the building. When
you went into the towers immediately after the first plane hit,
did you see any civilians running into the towers? So

(09:44):
the story that I'm looking at specifically is this case
of this woman who disappeared on September ten, two thousand
and one, and she was a doctor and her family
theorized that maybe she ran into the towers. Did you
see any civilians being called into the towers, any nurses,
there's anyone running in as as volunteers or is it
mostly just first of s wonders trying to sher people

(10:05):
out of the danger zone. Yeah. Al also is the cops,
por authority, police and hypt and far department kind of
rushing in. If there were civilians, there were probably more
outside at various Triads sites that were very close to
the building. This is separate, but one of the interesting
things that I learned over the years is that after

(10:25):
nine eleven, there was a disposable camera recovered at ground
zero with photos taken on the upper levels, and it
was developed by the FBI's explosives unit. Have you ever
heard of that? No, I never heard of that. And
then so with Stephen, when did you realize that you
had this tape that you captured the crashes on tape?
And how did the tapes are live? Right? So the

(10:48):
recording device itself is pretty uh robust, So it's not
like he handles the tape. It's a device that we
give them and then that device has to be given
back to us and then take and to be downloaded.
So it's not a tape. It's more of a digital
device that has to be downloaded. It's funny. It wasn't
until weeks after that I was able to reconnect with

(11:12):
Steven McCardell, because we didn't know if he had survived himself,
but he did check in and said like he was okay.
And then it just took weeks because I was assigned
doing SWAT stuff. I was temporary assigned to the Joint
Terrorism Task Force, So it took a while for us
to kind of just reconnect and restart because, as you know,

(11:33):
everybody was working terrorism and all these cases that we
worked were kind of put to bed. So it was
until we linked up further on down the road. I
got the device back, I got it downloaded. This was
probably months later. We listened to all the tapes that
kind of see what happened, and then we realized, holy crap, Wow,

(11:55):
this is important piece of history here, yea. So as

(12:25):
I said earlier, we're going to air the entire recording.
If you want, you can skip ahead seventy minutes to
the attacks, but I encourage you to listen to everything,
close your eyes, immerse yourself eleven seventy minutes until the
world changes. Walking toward the trade center in the mall,
underneath the trade center in a cafe between the towers.

(12:50):
This especially as you're ronning the miller with the public
Ruption Squad of the Federal Brew of Investigation. Today's date
is September eleven, the year two thousand one. It's time
now is a pastment six am today We'll be doing
a consensual body recording between Stephen McCardell and Howard Haveler
witnessing this. Uh meat will be special as in Victor

(13:14):
Rocho with the FBI and Deputy Spector General Stasi Patel
with the New York City Department Investigation. I will now
give Stephen mccarll the recording device. M he said, they

(14:08):
go for your yeah and the fire star so long,

(15:47):
really ran the song to love one whist there right,
pat made Hi got very old and may have will

(19:14):
get right, got a martyrd or sh mmmmmmmmm, Sis, I'm

(28:39):
not lacking, nun. There are ye good mornings. He will

(29:04):
call him, Yeah, how are you? No, I'm I'm in
them in the baseman or the concourse of the Great Center.
Kind of walk into circles until I meet him. Yeah, um,

(29:35):
hoping to give you roll or something. Yeah, I'll get
air enough. Uh six or six I do, But what's

(29:57):
six or six to ten ninety or what's into courts?
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go a h. I haven't been a hard fan of them.

(32:56):
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the store watching who years watching the store and to
you for working the girl's part, shoes on the girl.
That's why I caught the seven o'clock. He's never been
into this. I'm easier to order the subway and when
you trying cons to table, I had to get seven,

(33:17):
I said, the team seven third, I just do it
right now at seven years, I said, I don't understand
why we do this right because like a continuous lights
that's where the college been trying about it about it.
I'm sorry, I don't cons about them, and I leave
fund all today all about it, said all the duds out.

(33:41):
He had that ninth n sweet of fo years. When
you're going up for you're bribing your arms for stobbing
between nine and ten or ethano whatever, have the left
as break Yeah, setting it on Broadway through it it
means something or gone Broadway by White. But the end
of m. Hanks was from Simla Isada huge women. M

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Drons was small, but you know I used to get
commercial great pop. He prodeus today he puts your pret Jerry,
what's yourself days? You don't tell know if it's uh,

(34:44):
that's that's a gas back. Yeah, at an oven in
a week at summer wasn't bad, But they don't you

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they have concerts to be forever. Ye I love this
place isn't very voice I've left from my pots here
there were just a Justine's picture of joe Just wow,

(35:32):
how is how? How is everybody from? Thanks? Our Carol's fine? Yeah?
Just in the school graves really coming? Yes, you know
at nine years old, the weeks, the nine years old,
nine years old and joe Ys comming around the desk. Driver,
I mean we have a half of the home. You
tell the teacher you're very responsive. Test now and then

(35:56):
to market successes the CONTI strip so to teach your safe.
You know it's to be expected. He's gonna be much
news to your home. God will he'll be able to
whatever we teach them in school, will be able to
take off with him in the future. How as means
where he had chats grow here him and his nintender

(36:18):
that's all we need seeper fortunately gets him away everything
else right, I'm all right? You feel about can Yeah,
I don't actually do all right, kids? Do or can
that great? That the lord that's uh, that's the one
stead meet a little guy that a big guy wrote
he was up a h six o'clock this morning, still early,

(36:43):
just still all I'm can't show you're up better earlier. Yeah,
I gotta setter over. He wants every one they shouldn't
be up now, so go to some bat poll nine
thirty that every time they're going to say to shoot
ste if you say when I'm got, it's we're getting
all them out with a down away in the seventh
thirty when he was our beating the fall seat about

(37:04):
board at dread right, um, obviously I put him down
at seventh body that's very well putrolling, id the phones
around to mine, come riding and drop the boat in
and nine when he goes around the longer, I provious
to sleep on you see my eight got be brotherly

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bab four asa rush today. Good to see that there's

(37:47):
m busy and in this business. Can't be that bad
one hand, can't. I mean, if you can't do that,
maybe not this year, but then the companies of their
own reductions out there, maybe not this yep, not we

(38:16):
don't too last week. I don't stopping last tuesdays like
I spoke that hour to tell me and then said
abide the meeting comfort meetings. And I wasn't there only
he told me wasn't very and nobody was exciting. I'm
pretty sure that I talk to that out he thought,
he said. Maybe he just said there was a meeting
with hed told me to ye did meet to be

(38:37):
able to meeting because nobody understand we weren't. I'm gonna
have a meeting with you guys not there, but I
meet you too, man. I mean, I don't love it.
Probably they called it that day and that was around right.
I said, the tram to rights some money and the
stories that got were mixed, so I'm not new. I

(39:00):
tell you what conctions, Yeah, I really matter much. I'm
pretty it's just yeah, wow, one type. That's what you
were saying. The other commercials and the capting tells a roll,

(39:24):
so you don't get the song. I think I should
have been dramatic to raise issue. Perry said that it's
all questionable where the ATM? Yeah, I think yeah pretty
ug Yeah, and I facingly what I was saying to
him was that you're facing you guys happen, Yeah, two

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I don't y u h poor god fully man and

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welcome that broblem. I have a bottle. Okay, stop, thank
you for us. Yeah, I think you right too great
to do the attendance. I mean we're ahead. I don't

(40:39):
know you're playing me days, but I mean that you'd
during it for a reason, that's for sure. And you
have got I don't intend to ask hope. I mean
brand union man. I mean you gotta be for your
happ for ever. Know the support by the very right
good lution works and many ways thanks to sign people.

(41:06):
You mean like tact to show he had at till
I had upon the air shot grimmy when they gave
us to cancer do the home doing process product like
that under right who come to the right and that

(41:36):
value very very conte rights to song at a time.
I don't keep your jobs. You have to thank me
review I mean how many I don't know, I may
crosses he chase your eyes. What I mean I basically
saying you keep you like a head. Someone has to
say it and you can't do what he longer out

(41:56):
of them. I because this years ago. Guys, you can't
to put you stay right fula if you want some
where to pay what you're doing, they get pensibility to
pay the right. I'm not gonna be us say that

(42:18):
you bought me and they got straight computer streat computer
and they had killings. They loved god vers about whom
would be playing computing an actively. I gave you dreams.
I don't know why talk about yes, the ways that
light head for where you fas so the numbers us

(42:47):
all rot. I don't know. No one gets that's my
better check questions. You can't come back. I'm not strict
to being te Well, unfortunately he can't say the same
thing about this town. It's one of the most expensive

(43:10):
towns to do business in the world, the world confer Yeah,
m now, Jim, is he all right? You talked to

(43:31):
on my wak How how is he a meniscus? And
I don't know it wasn't dan produce direct are mentally?

(43:57):
How is he to keep so? He soon on? Even
I said anything for mom and he said he hadn't
called him. Okay, that's okay, you are okay. Now in

(44:26):
your opinion, is it wise to meet them once or
something or just okay? But people Jim let hope, I

(44:47):
d one hope the joy Joe I or Rot said
the said after I got a way, shut the door,

(45:09):
I wanted to come right for ra yeahs, last round,
smooch around. I sat. Yeah, everybody, I'm gonna make a

(45:58):
m and say everything. I know you had nothing for
you read en Mo Tennant, thank you back anything right,

(46:22):
see people who got to pin you? Where yea yet
I actually say many ways. Jost said that joking about it,

(46:48):
I'd thank you back yard. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think
he got that problem, just that I'm doing something out
of him book right, all right? Ye want me think

(47:14):
about it, so you know I don't. I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with that because clearly, if the Commissioner
I had it, which obviously he does, he's not planting
down on the d A. I see passion the grounds

(47:37):
only that's only a good thing here. I'm tell he's
gone to talk Aboudy got all rights, which always tell
me peoples see deserves a good purpose. But it's still
a certain leab of fear bring problem and the stills
a certain lebin of beeing, which maybe they're opening will

(47:59):
do right. Why else were you hand out? I'm sure
that's a liberal, that's my point. Yeah, I mean something
like that, that's go getting around Mattia's I mean it
end to fail you if even if Benny knows he knows,
he's still he knows, man, he's gonna tell people rout,

(48:27):
aren't you generate out? What's that? We don't? We got
at a who said Malaba tell you that he probably
really arts to tell him about tell him just till
some common us. He said that to you. See, that's

(48:50):
why that's step where I meant by you know he's
gonna tell people, Yeah, he said, just let him friends.
I'm not gonna tell him who working to fiends of
friends and so that astracts to you they open. That's
stunning when he said, Strell, since you want to never

(49:14):
started charge you to I s So are we that
dude where a numbers super pas shoes n that's looking

(49:37):
that it's just always ascussions just in in no place
in the ad place you will because you have to
assume that that's a hyde packer. Yeah, the institution, And
I absolutely absolutely said I don't try to tell the

(49:59):
showing yeah when he wasn't about that incit mindy you
see thing or not. But I'm chanting because because you
know I haven't maybe you'll maybe you'll money just to happen,
but to sta talk about kind of yeah happy numbers

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of just happens. Okay, lay yeah yeah yeas very ya.

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Okay did you guys don't try to che don't like
said me for my side. Ye tisn't like he said,

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you haven't spot y n you know you do not

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very so all talk down there was that even true
that I did the vote for the things that are
very problem, but that the name that many pot want

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to do it down up No, not cook that people
know I was gonna be a high about very ny

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times last m mind roads dat travel can't tell me
st never of course always like here, I try to
what people before we jost won't try. The boy tell

(53:58):
me don want so you take that dress? Bad happen
was a flashed on Joe's in yards and the millions.

(54:30):
I want a shot up the want Okay, I want
to shame that would have been nice to I've been him. Yeah,
I haven't talk to any point since I mean, I
other m up a how are you doing? I was
kind of hoping. I called again. I called Tony and

(54:52):
Alan on Tuesday, just chuck in, you know, I mean
come back time yet as Hearty talk the bat right down.

(55:21):
Very he's happen? Yeah, what is your real I don't know. Well,
I mean just day they call, they call Lake. I'm
very okay, I don't because we call people. Stop the

(55:47):
reach to so you never get him nothing save Joe

(56:11):
job time. Okay, they listen to us some things and whatever.
I tell me. I'm honest, I don't know. I haven't
pursued yet wine because I don't know where rock. No
one's telling me. I mean, I don't want to get

(56:32):
grom could have to blow and not be able to
do it. So I needed before I move anymore. I
wanted a sense of where we're at. So I think
that gets it harder, that gets don't Yeah, yeah, Joe

(56:52):
drink where qu' good on his eens is stopped them.
I'm a party, a party, rise to the best, right, Yeah,

(57:48):
I did have MP the night the party, Yeah, and
a countable for me. I thank you. Just hope you

(58:13):
and them keep it open. You're trying to be good.
I'll break out there and I rob you. Let me
to tell you my door. Yeah, I'm honestly I don't
want to disappointed to that till you happy. I wrote
it up really with somebody who got SA community get it.

(58:35):
I don't really got somewhere in the US. And it's
got to be next week because if it's not, what
are they rob you? I'm sure I have nothing to do.
That's you know I said when I said to get dinner.
And you know, I don't want to know your opinion.
I mean it sunds like the lot the water tracking

(59:00):
to be done in terms of the top print of
the proper and we do really do you really think
that they're gonna be bum popper tracked and review proper?
You have because right ten? Yeah, that's what I want

(59:36):
to hear. So gas, so what do you go? And
it needs as um that's a weather Yeah, somebody I

(01:00:07):
also wanted to tell. They tell me, do you want
somebody they fill my yeah? Yeah, so they've cut step
over it, which is further evits working from long that
the red positive would be as strong to agony is
best right and we're happy. Oh, I'm I'm okay with that.

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At you be thank a bay at you. I thought,
I don't right, I'll do world crazy maybe making and

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my post I get right and I love so I
convin signs back about at about him. The copy p
D about inside out, and I said, I want to

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do I have to pass. I put up a promo
and I tell them that you have a problem. You
tell poll what would be that? I'm doing nothing for
her time? All right? Yous? My brothers, you guns an

(01:02:11):
your kid inside. You know you can't do something if
you don't know what you're supposed to do right together
side didn't discuss them the way he got discharging and

(01:02:33):
painting was shot on. Yeah, I don't know. I want
to take you don't want to time. It's really not

(01:03:03):
as much of a priority right now. Anyway we do.
Reminy hasn't expense you know, the close lease. I want
to see that. Don't want to see that. Yeah, can

(01:03:30):
really really do it any I'm just trying to think
how that he took six percent of most first incomes
for easy that's would be very happy or the eliminated
manituated to see that's ridiculous though, I mean they're not
in reality woman manages ability to two or three percent.

(01:03:53):
Once you get reading ordered in there, we're looking at
seven six seven percent and they're part of that. That's
utter the pre I intended. But I'm we have to
tell you my mind has hid right, it's drag it out.
I'm gonna do with mine. Money took on churning NY

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and Mortis want to be I'm not perfect ever to do.
I was real. I don't want to read to put
their humans then I to n I never listen to

(01:04:38):
I met that because I know what doesn't say and
if it has a kinkers and you really know it,
that is there the bottom one who lives said doctor

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under the long version wants to music. Yeah, I don't.

(01:05:22):
I don't know what they would. I don't know what
the priorities are already know because remember if you I
mean to see that, I should want to see as
I'm just very curious to see what the splitting with
the year rage because the economies corn down every day.

(01:05:43):
They should be re doing guideline I I got us
right right, and then tell you who're taking on the

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chain worn even if you don't add that or do
have the hother mechanism for that or or even take
it out of the income for that matter. What you
have to increase, you have to re fucking and the
increase fagency read on the increase, Captain. I mean you
don't necessarily have to do something with that, you know.
I mean, if it the rest being collective, it is

(01:06:34):
being collected, right, you can't you can't argue that what
is there is the risk of that correction higher? Now
clearly how well how is that frisk being in collected?
You know? I mean that's really where rolls down to
hours Ronnie does he does he know where we've seen

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each other or anything? No, I'm not come to Rose's. Finally,
I'm not gonna be with himything. You're moving well, I
mean you had a less gape you get him again.
I would imagine Tommy. Tommy said finding plain to say

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said what do you mean to do the talking? See,
I must have been some power play and him to
get back the tea. I mean that's because they said

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jo sat waiting under bad He's finding out a thinner

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d n y day jo very mind. You never Joan
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it about alas aren't good never little nay people like
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never known after a couple of years, and that had

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like Janey pretty you know he doesn't do a m
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the French Score, the presidential wing anything, cans ta, taxes
descripted up the water when we have working tax of food.
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stay in the owns been such a starting everything school.

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As you know, I used the prosings guidelines, sell I
stopped that THEA and I want to know what statistical
attitu about bats? Would you please tell anything that you as?
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they did with the keeps actually called my part who's
out there? He didn't even start fired, but uh we
called him and I don't think he's show him. I
know he didn't because you know he's the place we
have says, So all right, Star, I wanted to be

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good friends. My own words bread to leave. Um he's okay, ye,
so mine want to get you listen manything to get
this nee go and set another back any conscriptions out
of mons the dogs and never do I say. He

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said it's gonna be rest Thursday out forever. So that
the plant or is it all about you had no
idea this is about going on? I keep right, he's
good any good good King said, never left tam and

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just kind of have a much of the trunks right
good tell us poor personal to step Yeah, yeah, kles, yes,

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thank it talking. Let you get a h I would
let thought about it. I can be just you can

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you make you much t call me back my money
can be says get the feeling some time. He seems
like he wants to be you know, and Bobby and
he said he said, as munching on mean he's very
close without which is great. I mean, ladies to someone

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really gay win the girl from us short when I
said I wore the world, not one thing about time

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yet stop when he kills me something powers Yeah, he
turns out he is helpful. Last year, in the year
before good got us a good guy. Yeah, you know

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this thing was then poor thing because of the dread.
I can't believe they went to the Deep South. That's
the direct to my mind for sure that every probably
not that man okay, collating the time to prove they're

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either Christian or the ship pray you or we finally
group all right. So basically where we're right now is
you know, you're you're to uh, we're when easy and
where we're wrong, you're all yeah right, he said to go.

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You don't want to last people, that's all you know again,
And even if I had to keep very lively the
even thing to be gobless of what's said, that card
kind of I need because you can't do anything known

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to somebody's it sell. Well, that's for me to worry
about it, whether it's sail or not. And if you
give me anything more unpleasing right now m D L

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right would point yet then yet let them be and
just sign up. Yeah, so you see it's gonna be
a top to yet because because the city has always

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several years behind the curve and bope and copy owners.
Although the rents look good, it's not the same climate
out there. Are neat V agency is yet now when
I still paying it, that's over my course. They are
they they're still knowing well that the dynamitis exactly the

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opposite is they work two years above? Yeah, I really
much that I didn't mean because you know, I mean
just mathematically, I mean, do you work. You're working a
year and two thousand numbers now, which is still good
relative to year and ninety nine. So that I mean,

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that's my concerns. I mean, you can't have you know,
a twenty pc increase this year is not going to
be in sellable, you know. And if you found three

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one who is twenty four wool who's uh socus t ah,

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and you can't be doing anything. We got Sherribans today,
but he comishes in the year, right, yeah, yeah, all right, Bob,

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you go talking Chu stuck keating that mom because true
m m, thank you. Yeah, all right, Roy, guess you

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know you're talk it and we'll get together next week
when when it's a meeting, I want to go. I'm
not gonna do yesterday the time you can und I
play to us. I'm going back at the chair we
play John John gone to comte me. Even I thought, Joe,

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we we get we talked to If it's Jovid Black
actually made Friday, how do you think that it would
do goodn't even from personal for me to say, Harry,
you know setting the part of um. Yeah, I I

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I'm telling you I I you know, I'm just gonna
just it's just suggests that I see your reason. I
haven't cooked up the sound test me. How you know
he stopped. He's friendly with you know, like I need
to talk. But if he's not gonna take care of someone,
you know, I would appreciate it. You know what songs

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that I'll get done. So we've gotta talk. I mean,
whatever I saw you were gonna talk to him anything,
I'm gonna try. You know, if you're gonna talk to him,
we're going to better them. M he was in today
when it's from seven months ye ye ye yes, So

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I talked to Mike flight forty five minutes or something
like that. You have to frown not much to shoot
the ship. You have more politics than anything. And my
posy books. Yeah. He writes some bunks a couple of

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minutes from you know, close to home. It would set
me to would saying time, yeah you yeah, okay, has

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some nice stop over the year. Chas I have you
as of water, please try to thank you who had

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from you? That was an explosion? That was an explosion.
M na get on your get up very easy okay,

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saw about not never to pay hand my dad very

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letter many mun do it Chris, mhm, stitch. I was

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in that, I had my wre. I was in the
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then then and heavy bands press, SA say time T

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do a gran nature s everything M I a little

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bit of out of blue way to see it says

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the SA dat get a bad let it die w

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U n are w b y and the yeasaya the

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day I give it back and the tea and time

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