October 26, 2025 • 43 mins
Comedian Trae Crowder (aka The Liberal Redneck) is here to prove that not everyone from The South is MAGA, and tried to understand why so many are, despite the inherent contradictions with their prior attitudes and what's in their self-interest. Also, how comedians are the such a threat to authoritarians.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Mission Implausible is now something you can watch. Just go
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John Cipher.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I'm Jerry O'Shea.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We have over sixty years of experience as clandestine officers
in the CIA, serving in high risk areas all around
the world, and part.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of our job was creating conspiracies to deceive our adversaries.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now we're going to use that experience to investigate the
conspiracy theories everyone's talking about as well as some of
you may not have heard.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Could they be true or are we being manipulated?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We'll find out now on Mission Implausible. It's Today's guest
is Trey Crowder. He's the liberal redneck. He's a comedian
with a big following on YouTube and social media and
the author of several books. He's from rural Tennessee, and
you can see the dates for his nationwide comedy tour
on his website.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So welcome, Trey. So Trey, and we're going to put
you into the mindset of the CIA. Right. I want
you to take us through how this conspiracy work. I
want you to sneak into Congress. I wanted to go
into a congressional office and I want you to take
a flag with a swastika on American flag, and I
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want you to pin it behind a professional staffers billboard
and have him not know because they're claiming this is
a conspiracy. So looking at it from your point of view,
how do you do this and who benefits? Who is
who's really behind the swastika in Congress.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So I would think that the first part, the hall
part of that, which is just like getting a Nazi
American flag onto a congressman's court board in his office,
probably wouldn't be that hard. From an actual trained CIA operative,
I would think, you know, you just dress up like
an intern mander in there. Whenever he's like off trying
(02:03):
to make bedroom eise of some other congressman's intern in
the hall or whatever, his guy's back turn, you just
pin it to the court board and go back way.
But the yeah, the more interesting part is like why
would you do that, especially to that guy in particular.
You know, we're talking about a leftist deep state here,
which is of course the reality is everyone knows it.
Marksis communist deep state that we have operating in this country.
(02:27):
I guess it would be to somehow show further division
and make people more to further vilify and demonize these
good hearted, red blooded Christian Americans that are serving in
Congress as conservatives. Like that guy whose name already can't
remember and don't think I knew before it happened? Is
he Ohio guy?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah? The congressman is an Ohio guy.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Right, I don't know why you'd target that guy. You'd
think you'd go for somebody with a little more of
a little more presence.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
They're implying that this is a conspiracy theory, right that it. Yeah,
sometimes the deep leftist state is coming in and done
this for whatever reason. How does this come across or
doesn't this come across? And you know where you grow up.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I think, as much as I hate to say this,
I mean I think they probably just buy that whatever,
that somebody at the very least, that somebody is just
pranking this guy, or that he didn't actually do It's
essentially just become a matter of like whatever they say,
you just roll with that. So when they say, like, oh,
I didn't put up a knot, they'd be crazy. Why
would I put up a Nazi flag of my own
off which by the way that is crazy, but like
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he just says they'd be crazy. I wouldn't do that.
Someone else must have done that. And I think most
people in like my hometown that love Maga shit or
whatever just go, yeah, right, that's true. Someone else must
have done that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Because it's not like young Republicans would be putting like
I love Hitler or anything on chatboards or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
That's what I was actually about to say, because I
think it's more of a it's easily just as likely,
which is this is what always happens anytime there's some
unknown agent provocateur operating with any of this stuff in
people's minds, or even just like you don't know the
motivations of a person and they automatically just jump to
leftist terroristster, leftist saboteur or whatever. But I think it's
(04:13):
like it wouldn't surprise me at all if that. I'm
not even trying to give that congressman the benefit of
the doubt. But the idea that like some intern or
somebody has on his staff is like some twenty something
edge lord groyper Nick fuintest fan or whatever, that type
of guy who like who thinks he'd be funny to
put that on the courtboard in the Congressman's office. But
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in a I'm spreading the word type of way, or
like a I'm getting our like tagging, like graffiti artists
like tag things like tag logos and stuff around town.
Is almost like a sort of like weird street pr campaign.
It's like that, but for internet basement dwelling Nazis or whatever.
Just because he thinks it's funny, he just takes a
picture of it and post it with the caption, Lol,
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you are gay on their ROYD group message board or whatever.
Do you know what I'm saying? It could also be that,
and that wouldn't surprise me either, So who's to say
what I'm pretty sure it isn't is? Yeah, the far
left CIA apparatus.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
For God when I first started, I guess.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Now, of course, yeah, always you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Guys, I don't even know this when you guys are
like so far ahead of me in terms of the
keeping up with these things. I've been very focused though
on the RFK talking about how circumcision leads to autism.
That's where I've been, That's where I've been spending my time.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I can't even keep up with all of his lunacy
because the last thing I saw, actually I don't think
I had seen the circumcision when i'd seen. The last
thing I saw from him was talking about he said
that teenage boys have fifty lower sperm count than sixty
five year old men. Do girls hit puberty six years
younger than normal, And then he ended it with parents
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aren't having children anymore, which is like, I mean, I
know what he means, but that's a funny way to
put that, because it's like, right, well, then you know,
then they're not paid, they're not having children, and they're
not parents, and if they are parents, then they are
still having children. So it's just she choose your words better.
But anyway, yeah, he's just always I saw someone say
about him. If that guy didn't have that job and
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wasn't from like a prominent family, and it was just
like standing on some random street corner saying most of
that shit, you'd give him ay away from him. Yeah, right,
give him a dollar and the can get as far
away from him as quickly as pod.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I saw some polling today though, that it's easy to
laugh at and we know he's a fool. But they
asked after he said that Tyl and all causes. Whatever
they pulled. People in a much larger group of people said, oh, yes,
Tiland all causes. I'm gonna stay away from Tylan. I'll
cause it. People want someone to look up to to
tell him things and they listen. And there's people who
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were like completely bought in, of course, But then there's
there is a group of people who think that you
know he's in the job. You must know.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That last group of people you brought up has always
been so hard for me to wrap my head around,
like the one group we've already mentioned twice, the ones
that are for the true believers, the ones that are
fully bought in, Like, I mean, that's crazy to me too,
but I just I get it in terms of thinking
about it as like cultish devotion literally cultish devotion, or
even just having blinders on in a like favorite sports
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team sort of mentality or whatever. But it's just whatever
we do and say is right. Because we do and
say it, then it doesn't nothing else matters. But the
idea of like regular people who aren't bought in either
way and just live their lives, but that would see
some of those statements and be like, this is an
authority figure, and we should all trust authority figures, including this,
(07:39):
Like it's wild to me that those people have survived
in the wild in the current society that we all
currently live in, Like I totally. I feel like it
used to be that way for most people for a
very long time. But it just you would think that
that's got meaning, Like you know, like everybody brings up
all the time in the media, like everyone used to
just inherently trust, like Walter Cronkitite or whatever, and that
is the way that it should have been. But like
(08:01):
I'm just saying, I don't know how you lived through
the past ten plus years without realizing that those days
are over, unfortunately. And I feel like when QAnon was
first becoming a thing, the entree into it was this
notion that kids are in danger, like children are being
sex trafficked and fucking adducted and murdered and all this
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stuff and no one's doing anything about it. I get
as a parent, I understand hearing that and being like, oh, no,
that sounds bad. Someone should do something about that, and
like looking further into it, like I get that very
first step. What I don't get is that very shortly
after that you turn the next page and it's like, yeah,
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shadowy global cabal of liberal elite vampires spearheaded by Bill
Gates and Tom Hanks are harvesting blood from infants to
get the adrena chrome out of it or whatever with
the help of the Deep State. And whenever you get
to that page of it, I don't get out. You're like,
what the f okay? Never mind? That's clearly inside because
I from my perspective, there was no like you did that.
(09:08):
There was no slow rolling of it that I'm aware of.
Like where they go. They start with a person, you know,
it starts with like, kids are in danger. Don't you
care about kids? Of course I do? And then they
like very gradually walk you through this progressively crazier development
or explanation of what's going on. It Never it didn't
seem that way to me. It seemed like it was like, oh,
(09:29):
kids are in danger, don't you care about that? Yeah?
I do, what's going on? And then straight to the
global cabal and all that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Kids are in danger. That would be something that you
think you could really around, like young girls are in danger, right,
but now today, when the shoe is on the other foot,
kids are in danger the Epstein files. Yeah, we've got
to do something. I gotta do something. Yeah, And then
all of a sudden, some really senior people in the
manga movement are like, yeah, nothing to see here, move on.
The great Leader has spoken, right, and no he didn't
(09:58):
do the raunchy birthday card with the pubic care right, Like, well, yeah, okay,
maybe so some of this verges on I'm really on principles, right,
It's just like in or or the absence thereof oh,
the absence there are. But yeah, no, so young girls
are in danger. We got to do something about it.
In theory, okay, But then when it's announced that Trump
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is in the files and who else is in the files?
All his friends and I don't care, Democrat, Republican, whatever,
but it's yeah, no, we're not gonna we're not going
to pursue that anymore. The head of the FBI was
the one singing this, right, and the deputy Dann Dongino.
They made a career out of this. Again, it's if
you go back to the Nazi times, it's fasciled, but
it's like the Bolsheviks are the big problem. They're evil.
(10:43):
And then there's the hit with Styalin pick. No, we
can get along with them. They're fine, and then they're
not again.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The control of what people's principles are is something that
I find difficult to understand. I mean, either you believe
something or you don't.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Write and that example in particular. Very briefly, I did
get the impression that when that first happened, and by
that when BONDI and then like first announced nothing to
see here, there is no real Epstein list and nothing
else is going to happen, so everybody just forget about it.
There was like definitely at least some backlash from like
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people on the right to mag of people little bit
quan up like and when that first happened, I was like,
I was still. Don't get me wrong, I was skeptical
the whole time. I thought that this what appears to
have happened, that it would eventually happen. But still at
the very beginning, I was like, okay, so we did
we finally find it? Like it there is still a
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line like a line in the sand that can be
crossed them and this is it, this is actually it,
because that would be nice if we finally found it.
But yeah, it I think that a lot of them.
I don't know. That was just it was too much
to ask for them to just immediately pretend like they
didn't to go from being like this is the most
important thing ever in the history of this country to
like nothing to see here was too much to ask
(12:02):
it for even for them, but not all of them.
Some of them like literally flipped on a dime, no
problem whatsoever. But for a lot of them, that was
too much to ask. But just stress it out, just
keep going.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's too hard to leave the team.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, you don't leave the tame and you get enough
other things to get mad about. Do you let time
pass and you can just sort of without ever openly
betraying your own principles in that matter or publicly doing it,
you can just eventually ignore it and go back to
the being incensed about trans people and immigrants and all
that shit or whatever and just not talk about it anymore.
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And that seems to be what they've done.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, Tray, you seem to have a real understanding and
work with from Tennessee and the South. So can you
talk to me a little bit about Southern culture, the
sort of military football tough guy people are heroes, I
mean it seems to me like Ice is like a
perfect metaphor for what Southern men want if they get
to dress up like warriors and beat up on weak people,
Like what is it about the self that like as
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early as the fifties and sixties started to switch over
to be very conservative and then eventually probably even more
like Maggie, we.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Were talking about that particular aspect and hypermasculinity and getting
to do Robb Ross shit and be a badass and
all that. I think it was definitely a lot of
that was always there, at least in my experience, you know.
I mean I was a kid in the nineties and everything,
and it was still there. That was still especially like football,
being a badass, all that was always part of it.
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A lot of guys joined the military. A lot of
that was also like predatory recruitment practices focused on like
poverty stricken places. You didn't have a lot of options.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And plus you get a sweet ass charger out of
the deal, so it was very effective.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I had a lot of friends that did that. But
at the same time though, and I don't know where
Ice fits into this, because they're mostly only doing it
to brown people, so that's maybe different. But like I've
talked a lot about, and it's true, and I have
examples I can point to to prove it. But even
when I was a kid in the nineties, like Cops,
so not just cops, but also just authority figures, the government,
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all of that was not shit that these peo people
liked or cheered on or were on board with. So
like the whole NASCAR, which is hugely popular amongst rednecks,
was literally like founded by like moonshiners running from the
cops and shit and smoking the bandit the dukes of hazard,
like just running from the law as a time honored
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redneck tradition. There's like every other episode of Cops has
got redneck shit going on in it. They're like natural enemies,
or at least they were. But also, like I said,
just the government and the fuck and it also like
rich people, the bank man I can come and taking
your property, or like the company men, and like coal
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miners and the union fights and that type of shit
and all this stuff that used to matter. And even
I'm a big Tennessee Vaults fan. And then we do
Rocky Top is the state song of Tennessee, and they
sing it at the football games. And then there's a
line in that song sounds innocuous or whatever, but says,
once two strangers climbed all Rocky Top looking for a moonshine,
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Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top and reckon
they never will.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Funkste strangers climb no Rocky Top looking for a moonshine.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Copy, never will
Rocky up.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Rock Those are about like federal agents going up there
and looking to shut people's like moonshine.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Still found ain't.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Getting there's a rebel culture against.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Right, but now there anymore no that, And that's I'm saying.
Even when I was a kid in the nineties, all
that was there, that's fucked the man kind of mentality
type we're on our own type of thing. And now
they're all like boot lickers, like straight up boot lickers,
and it's weird again. The military was all they always
liked they back then. They definitely supported the troops, especially
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I was fifteen when nine to eleven happened, especially after
nine to eleven, of course, but that didn't extend to
like I said, any type of like cops or like
fed cops or FEDS or any of that. No, definitely not.
And now they'll, uh, I mean, obviously the FED thing
is weird because you whatever, because now the deep state
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is lefty shit or however any of that works. I
don't know. It's all confusing, but yes, there used to
be rebellious and have ish not cowtow to authority at all,
and that type of thing. And now they're all lining
up to lick the boots and stuff and they put
like thin blue line punisher stickers on the back of
their jacked up trucks and shit. And it's weird to me.
I've thought it was again. I've talked about this a
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ton over, I've had stand up bits about it, I've
made videos about it. I find it to be very odd,
and I don't really have an explanation for it outside
of just that side getting framed in opposition to the
side of black and brown people and queer people and
all that type of stuff, which is like they were
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more put off by all that when they were the
other thing. But outside of that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So related to that, maybe John can jump into a
CIA officers. We dealt a lot with Russians, and we
used to know him as the Soviets, and they had
the red flag with a hammer and sickle, and then
the Sovietan's over and they brought back a lot of
the Tsarist iconography, the Tsarist eagles big and the old
Tsaris flag has come big. And I remember saying to
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one of them is, I don't get it. You've got
all this Tsarist shit, but you've also still got lots
of like Soviet iconography. You still got hammers and sickles
and all that and there. And I'm like, I was like,
the Bolsheviks killed the whole Tsaris family to murdered that
whole class, and yet you're celebrating both of them at
the same time. I don't get it. And then he
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looked at me and said, you guys, you fly you
fly the Dixie flag, right yeah. Like it was like
so he's like, what's the difference, And I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Know, yeah, but the thing is what the example he
used about us like that also is stupid, so like that,
but that's to me, that sounds like like when people
a version of whenever you're like, I think fast food
workers should be paid more generally, and then somebody will
(18:32):
be like, really, you think somebody flipping burgers should be
paid this much When I'm an EMT and I make
three dollars less than that, that's bullshit. And it's like, yeah, no,
I think that you both should be paid more. Like
you also are being screwed up. You should be paid
more too.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I think I don't know why you automatically assume I
think that I want you to lose this scenario.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah. No, it's also stupid when people fly the Confederate
flag of the American flag all Like, I agree with
you about that. I've had stand up bits about that too,
about the ironic nature of that whole thing, because yeah,
that makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Let me ask you a little bit about how you
come up with stuff, because for people who haven't listened
to Trey, I would encourage you to find them on
social media Instagram, go to his shows, go to his website.
But you come up with these really clever like quips
and it looks like you're riffing.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So now I like, I'll tell. So what I'll do
is I'll tell I'll just I just sit here and
think about one of the things that I think are
absurd or stupid about this or whatever, and I'll make
little bullet points and a notepad or what not, whatnot,
and then I'll just start actually riffing on it, but
just to myself, but out loud, sitting round here in
this office usually, and just do that a few times
until it's sort of where I think, Okay, that's about
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that's pretty much it, and then I just go out
to the jeep and just type it.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I liked when you were talking about Hegesith, when he
called in all the generals and admirals. You called him
General Patton himself on the back, talking about the rules
of engage are more like rules of gay shit.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I want you to draft a memo to military leadership,
tell them they all gotta come here for a meeting
on the thirtieth, Yes, sir, And what should I say
is the purpose of this unprecedented and clearly vitally important
meeting so I could talk mad shit and get everybody
hype as fuck, bro, that's what.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Don't tell him that though, I want it to be
a surprise.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, I'm gonna go set deaf jam on these bitches
that don't say that sounded super black.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
I don't know why I said. It's could be sweet
as fuck.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Put put that in the memo, say attendance is mandatory,
but it will be sweet as fuck though.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Signed Hegg's dog right. He was very into it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
He had the American flag up there behind him, and
I guess so General patting himself on the back must
have hit a gas mask bong filled with his own
farts before he got started, because he was feeling himself.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Boy, he get up there like, all right, first things first,
kick ass and rip shit. That's what we do. It's
starting today. We're going to old school, right. I don't
want to hear any more of this. Woe cass oo.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Did you need a convention MS to view occasional with
these bullshit? I got rules of engagement more like rules
of engay shit, war crimes.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Give me more crimes, That's what I say.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Thereck come, motherfucker lighting shit ups in seventeen seventy six, bitch. Also,
no more fatties, no sir. Starting today, we're all gonna
be ripped as hell. We're gonna train him in May
and we're painting flames and all the tanks. It's gonna
be fucking sick. We're gonna have tight ass haircuts, perfectly
shaved jaw lines. And note that's not because I can't
grow a good beard. I don't want it reported that
that last thing is because I can't grow a good beard.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I liked that one because that one was a little
bit different for me, because it was mostly most of
that video was me pretending to be in character as
Pete Hegseth and just doing this like over the top,
super frat browie address to the military address or whatever,
and so like he's put himself in front of a
gigantic American flag. The first thing I think most people
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think of, because I grew up in my dad's video
store as a kid, so I was a big movie
guy and stuff. I don't think of Paton immediately. And
then from there he literally talked about rules of engagement
in real life. He said, so, we're not gonna be
like bound by rules of it, and he set it
to kind of smart me, Well, like we're not gonna
be bound by these rules of engagement or whatever, and
so then and so he he really did say that
(22:10):
his actual address that he gave I basically in my head,
I was like, and I don't even remember right now.
I'd have to go back and look at it. What
the lit But it was like a list of things
that he covered or topics he went into that I
thought were particularly wild or crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I was wondering, if you do this for like Portland,
so instead of showing up with slingshots and you know,
and Molotov cocktails, they're showing up in dinosaur costumes and
floud costumes. And what's your take on pushing back on
authoritarianism but using absurdity? Almost Dada isn't if you will?
Speaker 4 (22:42):
As of right now, unless something else happens, I think
the next video I do is probably going to be
about this, because I've been thinking because I've just been
loving all the Portland stuff or whatever, and it's I
feel like Trump's all launching the fascist takeover whatever in
Portland particularly is probably gonna end up being a mistake,
I hope, because of this exact thing, because like I think,
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I think that they're handling it perfectly because uske hows
it come across a broader audience nowadays, Who the hell knows?
But I feel like the main narrative that trumping them
uses that these are like war torn hellscapes, these cities
that are torn apart by liberal terrorists and criminals run
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them up because the blue leaders don't have the balls
necessary to keep them in control. And someone's got to
go in there and clean these streets up, right, And
like Pat Ball's hear that on fat Fox News and
they're like, ah, someone doesn't to go in there and
clean these streets up. So Fox News shows up or
whoever Newsmax and any of them, trying to get footage
of this that they can use to further fearmonger with.
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And it's like a guy in a frog suit and
an inflatable t rex fucking playing hopscotch or whatever in
front of these in front of these like Stormtrooper guys.
I feel like, no matter how brainwashed by any of
this propaganda, you are like, there's no way to spend
that as like these these guys' lives are endangered from
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these anthropomorphic cartoon character. There's no way. It's just not scary.
I feel like anyone, I don't care how deep in
all that you are, you see that footage and you
go like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like it's
that much of a war zone. Feels more like who
framed Roger rabbit to me, but so yeah, I'm all
for it. Actually had a on my last special there's
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a bit about even before any of this ever happened,
just about Portland in general, and about how they have
this very strange dynamic at play in their heads when
it comes to places like Portland or just the far left,
where it's like they boat on the one hand, they
think Portland is nothing but just a bunch of efaciated
baristas with a handlebar mustache or whatever, you know what
I mean. But on the other hand, they're like Antifa
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super commandos, you know what I mean. And it's both
at the same time, and it's it's just inherently ridiculous.
And I said, and I said back then, I was like,
if you think about it, you should be afraid of
those people, really, even if that is what they are,
because I was like, imagine you're in the middle of
some full fledged riot or whatever, and then out of
the smoke bomb haze comes with them comes some motherfucker
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dress up like a haberdasher riding one of those big
front wheel bicycles or whatever, and you're gonna try to
make fun of that guy. I how you get choked
out with a pocket watch chain. That's what I said
it was like, and I was like, whimsical anarchy. You
don't want none of that. I think it's the best
possible approach that you could take to this exact type
of thing, because I think that in general, they don't
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deserve to be taken seriously. I think that not being
taken seriously pisses them off almost more than anything making
fun of them all that type of stuff. They're just
they're very thin skinned, and it's like they want you
to just like that's fact. They want the molotods and
all that stuff because they know exactly how they respond
to that, and they're begging you to give them a
chance to do.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
What I think you do really well is you take
a very serious thing and you make fun of it,
but you don't lose the fact that it's serious. Like
when you talk you did one on Chicago and them,
you know, ice repelling from helicopters, and how excited they
must be deck like real military guys.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I just did a raid on a Chicago apartment building
where they repelled from helicopters in the middle of the
night and terrorized a bunch of US citizens, many of
whom were children by dragging them into the streets and
ransacking their homes. And you just know they felt so
cool doing it too, especially because that helicopter part. Like
in their minds, these guys are all like starring in
an early ninety Stephens Segall movie, but in reality they're
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starring in a twenty twenty Stephen Sagall movie, like you know,
the ones where he's fat and sucks and everything's dumb
about it all, Like this is insanity, and they know that.
They don't care, you know, in fact, it's all part
of the plan. They're just gonna keep escalating and instigating
and pushing Americans further and further. And when we finally
pushed back, Trump's just gonna declare insurrection the way Michaels
got declared bankruptcy and bam martial law and the death
(26:54):
of democracy. Well, we cannot give them what they want here,
a right, like we have to keep protesting all this shit, sure,
but without falling into their trap and becoming violent, except
for throwing sandwiches at them.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
That shit's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It is a serious thing, a potentially dangerous thing, but
it is also worth making fun of.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
They really do worry about being made fun of, right,
This is why they're trying to get rid of the
late night comics Jimmy Kimmel. This is why they're up
there high on the list. That along with creating fake
enemies like Soros or whatever Antifa is right is if
who could be pro Nazi, right other than the guy
in the Congressman's office with the Nazi flag embedded into
the American But can there be? And I'd love to
(27:35):
see it if it is? Can there be deeply conservative
comedians that are successful? The whole point is to go
against authority to laugh at it. How is punching down funny? Right?
I mean, well, how does that work? And could there
be a because I see they tried to do a
conservative Jimmy Kimmel and it like flop.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
My cousin Steven Crowder, who were not actually related like him,
he calls himself a comedian, but like they all have
the same idea of like they think that just like
saying racist stereotypes or whatever and then laughing afterwards is
like is being funny or is and that's not how,
that's not how any of that act that's not actually funny?
They do that with racism or homophobia or whatever, and
(28:15):
then they get all mad when you tell them that's
stupid or not cool or whatnot. But look, you said,
could there be I the I think, and I hope
that this is about to change and shift back. But
for at least the past couple of years, the biggest
comedians on earth have been conservative and right wing guys.
And that's something that like I never ever intic. I've
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been like a comedy nerd my whole life, before I
ever started doing comedy, which is fifteen years ago, and
the whole time I've been doing it. And that's one
thing I never ever anticipated, because like you said, I
always had the same perspective on it. It was like comedy
or even being a good comedian is inherently progressive, or
at the very least, it's like skeptical and you question
authority and that type of thing. So anybody that's gonna
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fall in lockstep with an authoritarian regime or be fascist
boot liquors or whatever, it's it's just it's antithetical to
everything that comedy or satire supposed represent. That's what I
always thought. But what happened. This isn't news. Everybody saw
this unfold basically the left has the left got more
and more emboldened to like scold people, especially about don't
(29:21):
say that word, don't make those jokes, don't do this,
don't do that, or whatever. And comedians in particular, especially
a lot of big ones, were like, you're not gonna
tell me what I can't what I can and can't
joke about it, and they got very defensive about it. It's
the type of thing that ever, and when I said that,
you know, I'm talking about very famously Dave Chappelle with
his like trans jokes or whatever, it.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Felt like everybody didn't want to go to call.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And when they got pushed back against that when people
are like, yeah, you shouldn't do those jokes because they're bad,
and a lot of these comedians are like, fuck you,
and then they like.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
And then that pushed them further in the other direction,
and that sort of led to a lot of them
falling in league with the current iteration of the American
right just because they were aligned against that type of mentality,
and that led to them like being ancillary to a
lot of much more dangerous shit, but also hugely important
part of it that you can'tnot say. When they did this.
They also found that it was incredibly lucrative, like the
(30:14):
right wing grift or whatever. They made a lot of
found that it was very make a lot of money
from doing that, and so then they became there were
comics who started trying to get canceled so that they
could become part of that whole world because they saw
how successful that it could make you be. And there's
been some backpedaling from guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew
Shelton dudes like that about Trump particularly. There's been things
(30:38):
like Mark Marin taking a lot of these guys to
task about and he had a bit from a special
went viral where he said, if Hitler was alive today,
he'd do Theo Bond's podcast right, And that apparently upset
Theo and Rogan a lot of them, but also got
made a lot of headlines and a lot of people.
There's I don't know if you'll have heard of this
thing called the Elephant Graveyard. If y'all heard of that
YouTube channel, you should look it up if you're at
(30:59):
all interested in this. It's this guy who makes these
video essays about this whole world basically and taking it
to task and calling it out and there's a weird
kind of comedy civil war opening right now or brewing
about this whole kind of thing. And you said, how
it's punching down like that funny. That was Marin's whole thing.
When he went on his recent tirade against it, he
was like, look, you won, like you won, Like these
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people are disenfranchised and we're gonna to bring drug out
in the streets, trans people are afraid to exist, all
this stuff. You won. When are you going to stop
with the jokes?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, it's like the Also he's made this point. A
bunch show people made this point, but it's true. It
very quickly becomes hack because they're all again. Once it
became evident to a lot of up and coming comedians
and stuff that this is how you get to the
arena level, to get to whatever, they all started making
the same jokes about the same things. They all started
bitching about wokeness and talking about trans people, and when
(31:52):
everybody's doing the same thing again, it becomes hack and
pandery and it's bad. But they tried to act like
somehow that was edgy or whatever, And I guess it
was edgy, but not in a good way, and it's
just been it's been a weird time.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
How do you do with Heckler's you've got you must
get heckled? Mega folks mutst commit either target you or.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
As far as maga people. So my whole comedy CARU,
so far, I seem to have existed at what I
call a like internet comment level of hatred, which means
like they don't hate me enough yet to leave their
house and buy a ticket and come stand in line
and call me a queer or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I feel like Donald Trump has been the butt of
jokes since before he even got into politics, like for years,
and some of it I don't know, Maybe he just
doesn't see all of it. Maybe it's like only the
stuff that he sees or is confronted with he just
can't move past and it drives him insane. And then
other stuff people shield from him and never finds out about,
because I don't get how he picks and choose what
(33:07):
to be incensed by, because because it's a NonStop deluge
of people making fun of his stupid as every day
you know you.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Mentioned We've mentioned all a number of times, us and them, right,
which I only half reject I think there is of
them because they have this messianic figure. It's a cult.
They have things you have to believe in, right, you
have to believe that twenty twenty was You have to
believe to be in the cult that twenty twenty was ripped.
You don't have to know how, you just know it was.
(33:38):
And January sixth was a day of love. And but
the US part I have no idea what you think
of Joe Biden. I didn't think of a whole lot
of them. I think he was a mediocre if that president,
And I don't like AOC doesn't speak for me, and
so on the one side, I think there's a the
not Mega. It's pretty amorphous. There's no other despite the
(34:00):
fact that it's on the other side, the Mega side
is they all deserve to die because of Charlie Kirk.
They want who the fuck is they? I don't know, Yeah,
but there is a they from the progressive side. Right,
if you're if you wearing a truck t shirt, you're
wearing a MEGA hat and you buy into the religion
of it, it's you know, there's a there are things,
(34:21):
and people don't want to leave. They don't want to
say that. Yeah, maybe Joe Biden won fair and spare
because now you're out there's an in and out, there's
contours around them.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, the left is a very the left in general
or just like you said, not MAGA, especially if you
frame it that way, is a very varied, diverse coalition
or like you said, a morphois grouping of people. It's
part of the problem that they have in getting anything
done ever or pushing back on stuff is they can't
agree on pretty much anything, and you're so many different factions.
But that's I feel like that's inherent to being the
(34:52):
official side of different types of people or different belief
systems or whatever, because really the other side is just
it's not it's pretty narrowly defined. They have like their
tokens and stuff. But there's like really a pretty clearly
defined type of person that it's okay to be in
in MAGA world, and that's like a straight Christian, capitalist
conservative pretty much. So the videos we've been talking about,
(35:14):
I've been I called those videos the liberal redneck videos
or whatever, but I actually recently and I didn't make
any announcement or about it or whatever, but I stopped,
I took that out. I took that out on my
social media bios, and I took it out of the
title of videos and stuff and I just call them
like trade crowded rants or just have it under my
name now or whatever. And I was telling this. I
was on this other political podcast with a lefty buddy
(35:34):
mine in California, and I told him I changed it,
and he was like, oh, yeah, you just weren't comfortable
being associated with rednecks anymore. And I was like what, No.
I was like, it's because of liberal is the reason
that I stopped using it. I was like it was
and he was like what. I was like, yeah, because
when I first started doing that in twenty sixteen, especially
being from the South, liberal just meant like liberal democrat,
(35:55):
not Republican. All those things were like basically synonymous. But
I feel like now with the neoliberals and the establishment
Democrats and all that, it's become more clearly defined when
it's associated with people like the very cool cor Democrats
like Chuck Schumer and those guys. And I was just like,
that ain't my bag anymore. But to go back to
what we're talking about, so it is amorphis and we
(36:18):
are divided even on the whole left and all that
in opposition to them, and like you said, there is
them from our perspective. But I think that kind of
makes it true in both directions because it's like with
the philosophies of viewpoints and goals that they have. To me,
the way everyone should look at it, it is us
in them, because it's like you said, maga and not maga, right,
that is the us and them. That's the way people
(36:40):
are going to have to start looking at it. I
think it's like you're either on board for a totalitarian
fascist dictatorship essentially here authoritarian regime and late stage capitalism
and all that. You're either like down with that, and
if you're not, then you're on our team or you
should be.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Letting taught way back way. It's just as fascist than
a small vanguard party with a strong leadership and goals
is has more strength and more ability to bring about
change to take power than the ninety percent. The Bolsheviks
were small minority even within the socialist movement Russia. But
(37:17):
because they were they had a direction, they had a plan,
they had contours, they had.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
They were to kill their opponents.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
There were yeah, there were more vicious yeah, and that
that made them more. I don't know what were the
Bolsheviks five percent, three percent? Even.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I want to ask one comedian question, and it has
to do with the whole comedian Saudi Arabia Riod thing. Yeah,
what's your take on on that?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I almost got into that earlier when I was talking
about the right word shift in comedy lately and but
I said, but lately, I feel like maybe the pendulum
swinging back, and I was like Mark Maren doing this whatever.
But and I almost got into Riodd because I think
that's part of a part of that hopeful shift as well.
But the Reodd Festival specifically, First things first, No, I
was not asked. I don't think they would have asked.
(38:04):
That makes it very easy for all for me to
say all of what follows, because I didn't have a
gigantic check put in front of me that I had
to walk away from. So I'm acknowledging that, Yeah, I
found it. I didn't. I don't feel the same about
literally every comedian that did it. I don't think that
they're all in the same position. There's plenty of comics
who went over there that Again, the check that they
got from that is like bigger by orders of magnitude
(38:25):
than anything they've ever gotten before. They're not household names,
they don't have more money than they could ever spend.
Their future is not at all necessarily secured, and it's
and then also there's some of them that it's like
there's no hypocrisy involved. It's like, like, I don't know
the guy. I think he's funny, he's one of the
biggest stars on earth. Seems like a nice dude. But like,
I don't think anyone was all that surprise that Kevin
Hart took the money to go, do you know what
(38:45):
I mean? He's a He's on a Draft Kings commercial
every other commercial break every day, like he you pu
out the check book, Kevin Hart's gonna show up, and
everybody knows that about him. It's so that made it
better for him with this because it's like people aren't surprised,
and I don't think he would deny any of that.
He's I'm in this for the money or whatever. But
some of them it was, you know, it was like, dude,
what are you doing? You know? And like, I mean
(39:08):
the one that gets talked about the mode of course,
and I agree with it. I'm a huge fan myself
and I have met this guy a couple of times.
Love him. But like Bill Burr's whole recent thing that
he's been on, which has been like very anti capitalist,
very anti billionaire, this shit's going to be the ruin
of us all. He's been a voice of reason in
a lot of ways, and so to be that guy
I do all that and have people rally around him
(39:30):
for that, and then go over there and shuck and
jive for the Saudi Royals, the people who cop journalist's
heads off and all that stuff and kill women with
rocks for talking at the wrong time or having a
collar drome show and or whatever they do over it.
But like it's just it just feels pretty hard to
justify to me. But it would be one thing if
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they went and did it and then came back and
we're just like, look, man, what do you want me
tell you? If someone offered you the amount of money
I got offered for one show, I'd like to see
you say no to it. If they came back and
said that, I'd be like, yeah, you're right, I don't
I'm not in that position. I don't know, But that's
not what most of them have been doing. They've been
getting self righteous about it and acting like, no, really,
(40:13):
this was like a humanitarian sort of ambassadorship that we
were doing over there. This is like cultural outreach. We'll see.
We were going over there to try to help the
waves of progress move forward throughout this country because they're
trying to do better and we wanted to assist them
in that. That just to me makes it kind of
even worse because it's like, no, no, you weren't. No,
(40:33):
it isn't that's not And also, by the way, I
probably should have started with this, but I didn't. Many
times over the years, I've had fans of mine who
are very you know, people on the left for sure. Periodically,
whenever there's some new trans bill or whenever there's some
voting restriction shit going on in North Carolina or Georgia
or whatever, and I've got shows coming up in Charlotte
or Atlanta or whatever, I will have fans of mine
(40:56):
who live in California or Portland or whatever say to
me like, are you still going to do that show?
Are you really going to go to North Carolina right now?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Like?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Are you not boycotting North Carolina? Bruce Springsteen is boycotting
North Carolina, it's okay. Well, I'm not Bruce Springsteen. I
don't think I had the same cultural impact that the
Boss does. I'm probably not going to make as many
headlines that he did by doing that. But also, no,
I'm not gonna do that because when I go there,
the people that come to the show are going to
be people who also hate that trans bathroom bill and
(41:26):
who want to go to a comedy show. Why should
I punish them for the bullshit that their government does
in their state. It's not their fault. No, of course
I'm not going to do that. And that exact same
logic would apply to just doing a regular tour date
in Saudi Arabia. If you just set up a tour
date at a venue there and said, people are fans
of mine, buy tickets and come see me, then I
(41:48):
would have zero problem with it. It would be the
exact same thing as me doing that show in North
Carolina during the trans bathroom stuff. But that isn't what
happened here. This literally was like an entertainment washing campaign
funded by the regime itself to get people to stop
associating them with fucking beheadings and lack of prespeech and
all that shit, and that makes it different.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
This would be more like me again, and I'd never
be asked, but me going to do like a private
sing at mar A Lago celebrating the life of Jeffrey
Epstein or whatever, you know what I mean, Like if
I was the entertainment for that and I agreed to
do it and then and it'd be like and then
tried to justify that that's more like what this.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Was put in. Those dudes again, who I think are awesome,
and like I said, it's not all created equals. Some
of them I'm like less disappointed in, and even the
ones I am more disappointed in, they don't give a fuck,
and I wouldn't either if I was them, probably, But
they've got plenty of black backlash for it, and they're
clearly surprised by that. But I'm sure it's like anything,
it'll dissipate everything the next thing, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
And we will look for the next thing to get
your opinion on it and get your teake on it.
So again, thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Thanks for having me back on. It was fun. It's
always a pleasure. I'll tell everybody. Go to Trey Crowder
dot com to check out tour dates. If you want
to come see me, and I'm just Trey Crowder t
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We have over sixty years of experience as clandestine officers
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the world, and part.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of our job was creating conspiracies to deceive our adversaries.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now we're going to use that experience to investigate the
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you may not have heard.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Could they be true or are we being manipulated?
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We'll find out now on Mission Implausible. It's Today's guest
is Trey Crowder. He's the liberal redneck. He's a comedian
with a big following on YouTube and social media and
the author of several books. He's from rural Tennessee, and
you can see the dates for his nationwide comedy tour
on his website.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So welcome, Trey. So Trey, and we're going to put
you into the mindset of the CIA. Right. I want
you to take us through how this conspiracy work. I
want you to sneak into Congress. I wanted to go
into a congressional office and I want you to take
a flag with a swastika on American flag, and I
(01:22):
want you to pin it behind a professional staffers billboard
and have him not know because they're claiming this is
a conspiracy. So looking at it from your point of view,
how do you do this and who benefits? Who is
who's really behind the swastika in Congress.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So I would think that the first part, the hall
part of that, which is just like getting a Nazi
American flag onto a congressman's court board in his office,
probably wouldn't be that hard. From an actual trained CIA operative,
I would think, you know, you just dress up like
an intern mander in there. Whenever he's like off trying
(02:03):
to make bedroom eise of some other congressman's intern in
the hall or whatever, his guy's back turn, you just
pin it to the court board and go back way.
But the yeah, the more interesting part is like why
would you do that, especially to that guy in particular.
You know, we're talking about a leftist deep state here,
which is of course the reality is everyone knows it.
Marksis communist deep state that we have operating in this country.
(02:27):
I guess it would be to somehow show further division
and make people more to further vilify and demonize these
good hearted, red blooded Christian Americans that are serving in
Congress as conservatives. Like that guy whose name already can't
remember and don't think I knew before it happened? Is
he Ohio guy?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah? The congressman is an Ohio guy.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Right, I don't know why you'd target that guy. You'd
think you'd go for somebody with a little more of
a little more presence.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
They're implying that this is a conspiracy theory, right that it. Yeah,
sometimes the deep leftist state is coming in and done
this for whatever reason. How does this come across or
doesn't this come across? And you know where you grow up.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I think, as much as I hate to say this,
I mean I think they probably just buy that whatever,
that somebody at the very least, that somebody is just
pranking this guy, or that he didn't actually do It's
essentially just become a matter of like whatever they say,
you just roll with that. So when they say, like, oh,
I didn't put up a knot, they'd be crazy. Why
would I put up a Nazi flag of my own
off which by the way that is crazy, but like
(03:34):
he just says they'd be crazy. I wouldn't do that.
Someone else must have done that. And I think most
people in like my hometown that love Maga shit or
whatever just go, yeah, right, that's true. Someone else must
have done that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Because it's not like young Republicans would be putting like
I love Hitler or anything on chatboards or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
That's what I was actually about to say, because I
think it's more of a it's easily just as likely,
which is this is what always happens anytime there's some
unknown agent provocateur operating with any of this stuff in
people's minds, or even just like you don't know the
motivations of a person and they automatically just jump to
leftist terroristster, leftist saboteur or whatever. But I think it's
(04:13):
like it wouldn't surprise me at all if that. I'm
not even trying to give that congressman the benefit of
the doubt. But the idea that like some intern or
somebody has on his staff is like some twenty something
edge lord groyper Nick fuintest fan or whatever, that type
of guy who like who thinks he'd be funny to
put that on the courtboard in the Congressman's office. But
(04:34):
in a I'm spreading the word type of way, or
like a I'm getting our like tagging, like graffiti artists
like tag things like tag logos and stuff around town.
Is almost like a sort of like weird street pr campaign.
It's like that, but for internet basement dwelling Nazis or whatever.
Just because he thinks it's funny, he just takes a
picture of it and post it with the caption, Lol,
(04:56):
you are gay on their ROYD group message board or whatever.
Do you know what I'm saying? It could also be that,
and that wouldn't surprise me either, So who's to say
what I'm pretty sure it isn't is? Yeah, the far
left CIA apparatus.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
For God when I first started, I guess.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Now, of course, yeah, always you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Guys, I don't even know this when you guys are
like so far ahead of me in terms of the
keeping up with these things. I've been very focused though
on the RFK talking about how circumcision leads to autism.
That's where I've been, That's where I've been spending my time.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I can't even keep up with all of his lunacy
because the last thing I saw, actually I don't think
I had seen the circumcision when i'd seen. The last
thing I saw from him was talking about he said
that teenage boys have fifty lower sperm count than sixty
five year old men. Do girls hit puberty six years
younger than normal, And then he ended it with parents
(05:54):
aren't having children anymore, which is like, I mean, I
know what he means, but that's a funny way to
put that, because it's like, right, well, then you know,
then they're not paid, they're not having children, and they're
not parents, and if they are parents, then they are
still having children. So it's just she choose your words better.
But anyway, yeah, he's just always I saw someone say
about him. If that guy didn't have that job and
(06:14):
wasn't from like a prominent family, and it was just
like standing on some random street corner saying most of
that shit, you'd give him ay away from him. Yeah, right,
give him a dollar and the can get as far
away from him as quickly as pod.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I saw some polling today though, that it's easy to
laugh at and we know he's a fool. But they
asked after he said that Tyl and all causes. Whatever
they pulled. People in a much larger group of people said, oh, yes,
Tiland all causes. I'm gonna stay away from Tylan. I'll
cause it. People want someone to look up to to
tell him things and they listen. And there's people who
(06:45):
were like completely bought in, of course, But then there's
there is a group of people who think that you
know he's in the job. You must know.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That last group of people you brought up has always
been so hard for me to wrap my head around,
like the one group we've already mentioned twice, the ones
that are for the true believers, the ones that are
fully bought in, Like, I mean, that's crazy to me too,
but I just I get it in terms of thinking
about it as like cultish devotion literally cultish devotion, or
even just having blinders on in a like favorite sports
(07:15):
team sort of mentality or whatever. But it's just whatever
we do and say is right. Because we do and
say it, then it doesn't nothing else matters. But the
idea of like regular people who aren't bought in either
way and just live their lives, but that would see
some of those statements and be like, this is an
authority figure, and we should all trust authority figures, including this,
(07:39):
Like it's wild to me that those people have survived
in the wild in the current society that we all
currently live in, Like I totally. I feel like it
used to be that way for most people for a
very long time. But it just you would think that
that's got meaning, Like you know, like everybody brings up
all the time in the media, like everyone used to
just inherently trust, like Walter Cronkitite or whatever, and that
is the way that it should have been. But like
(08:01):
I'm just saying, I don't know how you lived through
the past ten plus years without realizing that those days
are over, unfortunately. And I feel like when QAnon was
first becoming a thing, the entree into it was this
notion that kids are in danger, like children are being
sex trafficked and fucking adducted and murdered and all this
(08:21):
stuff and no one's doing anything about it. I get
as a parent, I understand hearing that and being like, oh, no,
that sounds bad. Someone should do something about that, and
like looking further into it, like I get that very
first step. What I don't get is that very shortly
after that you turn the next page and it's like, yeah,
(08:46):
shadowy global cabal of liberal elite vampires spearheaded by Bill
Gates and Tom Hanks are harvesting blood from infants to
get the adrena chrome out of it or whatever with
the help of the Deep State. And whenever you get
to that page of it, I don't get out. You're like,
what the f okay? Never mind? That's clearly inside because
I from my perspective, there was no like you did that.
(09:08):
There was no slow rolling of it that I'm aware of.
Like where they go. They start with a person, you know,
it starts with like, kids are in danger. Don't you
care about kids? Of course I do? And then they
like very gradually walk you through this progressively crazier development
or explanation of what's going on. It Never it didn't
seem that way to me. It seemed like it was like, oh,
(09:29):
kids are in danger, don't you care about that? Yeah?
I do, what's going on? And then straight to the
global cabal and all that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Kids are in danger. That would be something that you
think you could really around, like young girls are in danger, right,
but now today, when the shoe is on the other foot,
kids are in danger the Epstein files. Yeah, we've got
to do something. I gotta do something. Yeah, And then
all of a sudden, some really senior people in the
manga movement are like, yeah, nothing to see here, move on.
The great Leader has spoken, right, and no he didn't
(09:58):
do the raunchy birthday card with the pubic care right, Like, well, yeah, okay,
maybe so some of this verges on I'm really on principles, right,
It's just like in or or the absence thereof oh,
the absence there are. But yeah, no, so young girls
are in danger. We got to do something about it.
In theory, okay, But then when it's announced that Trump
(10:21):
is in the files and who else is in the files?
All his friends and I don't care, Democrat, Republican, whatever,
but it's yeah, no, we're not gonna we're not going
to pursue that anymore. The head of the FBI was
the one singing this, right, and the deputy Dann Dongino.
They made a career out of this. Again, it's if
you go back to the Nazi times, it's fasciled, but
it's like the Bolsheviks are the big problem. They're evil.
(10:43):
And then there's the hit with Styalin pick. No, we
can get along with them. They're fine, and then they're
not again.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The control of what people's principles are is something that
I find difficult to understand. I mean, either you believe
something or you don't.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Write and that example in particular. Very briefly, I did
get the impression that when that first happened, and by
that when BONDI and then like first announced nothing to
see here, there is no real Epstein list and nothing
else is going to happen, so everybody just forget about it.
There was like definitely at least some backlash from like
(11:18):
people on the right to mag of people little bit
quan up like and when that first happened, I was like,
I was still. Don't get me wrong, I was skeptical
the whole time. I thought that this what appears to
have happened, that it would eventually happen. But still at
the very beginning, I was like, okay, so we did
we finally find it? Like it there is still a
(11:40):
line like a line in the sand that can be
crossed them and this is it, this is actually it,
because that would be nice if we finally found it.
But yeah, it I think that a lot of them.
I don't know. That was just it was too much
to ask for them to just immediately pretend like they
didn't to go from being like this is the most
important thing ever in the history of this country to
like nothing to see here was too much to ask
(12:02):
it for even for them, but not all of them.
Some of them like literally flipped on a dime, no
problem whatsoever. But for a lot of them, that was
too much to ask. But just stress it out, just
keep going.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's too hard to leave the team.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, you don't leave the tame and you get enough
other things to get mad about. Do you let time
pass and you can just sort of without ever openly
betraying your own principles in that matter or publicly doing it,
you can just eventually ignore it and go back to
the being incensed about trans people and immigrants and all
that shit or whatever and just not talk about it anymore.
(12:35):
And that seems to be what they've done.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, Tray, you seem to have a real understanding and
work with from Tennessee and the South. So can you
talk to me a little bit about Southern culture, the
sort of military football tough guy people are heroes, I
mean it seems to me like Ice is like a
perfect metaphor for what Southern men want if they get
to dress up like warriors and beat up on weak people,
Like what is it about the self that like as
(13:01):
early as the fifties and sixties started to switch over
to be very conservative and then eventually probably even more
like Maggie, we.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Were talking about that particular aspect and hypermasculinity and getting
to do Robb Ross shit and be a badass and
all that. I think it was definitely a lot of
that was always there, at least in my experience, you know.
I mean I was a kid in the nineties and everything,
and it was still there. That was still especially like football,
being a badass, all that was always part of it.
(13:31):
A lot of guys joined the military. A lot of
that was also like predatory recruitment practices focused on like
poverty stricken places. You didn't have a lot of options.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And plus you get a sweet ass charger out of
the deal, so it was very effective.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I had a lot of friends that did that. But
at the same time though, and I don't know where
Ice fits into this, because they're mostly only doing it
to brown people, so that's maybe different. But like I've
talked a lot about, and it's true, and I have
examples I can point to to prove it. But even
when I was a kid in the nineties, like Cops,
so not just cops, but also just authority figures, the government,
(14:06):
all of that was not shit that these peo people
liked or cheered on or were on board with. So
like the whole NASCAR, which is hugely popular amongst rednecks,
was literally like founded by like moonshiners running from the
cops and shit and smoking the bandit the dukes of hazard,
like just running from the law as a time honored
(14:27):
redneck tradition. There's like every other episode of Cops has
got redneck shit going on in it. They're like natural enemies,
or at least they were. But also, like I said,
just the government and the fuck and it also like
rich people, the bank man I can come and taking
your property, or like the company men, and like coal
(14:49):
miners and the union fights and that type of shit
and all this stuff that used to matter. And even
I'm a big Tennessee Vaults fan. And then we do
Rocky Top is the state song of Tennessee, and they
sing it at the football games. And then there's a
line in that song sounds innocuous or whatever, but says,
once two strangers climbed all Rocky Top looking for a moonshine,
(15:11):
Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top and reckon
they never will.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Funkste strangers climb no Rocky Top looking for a moonshine.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Copy, never will
Rocky up.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Rock Those are about like federal agents going up there
and looking to shut people's like moonshine.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Still found ain't.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Getting there's a rebel culture against.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Right, but now there anymore no that, And that's I'm saying.
Even when I was a kid in the nineties, all
that was there, that's fucked the man kind of mentality
type we're on our own type of thing. And now
they're all like boot lickers, like straight up boot lickers,
and it's weird again. The military was all they always
liked they back then. They definitely supported the troops, especially
(16:13):
I was fifteen when nine to eleven happened, especially after
nine to eleven, of course, but that didn't extend to
like I said, any type of like cops or like
fed cops or FEDS or any of that. No, definitely not.
And now they'll, uh, I mean, obviously the FED thing
is weird because you whatever, because now the deep state
(16:34):
is lefty shit or however any of that works. I
don't know. It's all confusing, but yes, there used to
be rebellious and have ish not cowtow to authority at all,
and that type of thing. And now they're all lining
up to lick the boots and stuff and they put
like thin blue line punisher stickers on the back of
their jacked up trucks and shit. And it's weird to me.
I've thought it was again. I've talked about this a
(16:55):
ton over, I've had stand up bits about it, I've
made videos about it. I find it to be very odd,
and I don't really have an explanation for it outside
of just that side getting framed in opposition to the
side of black and brown people and queer people and
all that type of stuff, which is like they were
(17:15):
more put off by all that when they were the
other thing. But outside of that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So related to that, maybe John can jump into a
CIA officers. We dealt a lot with Russians, and we
used to know him as the Soviets, and they had
the red flag with a hammer and sickle, and then
the Sovietan's over and they brought back a lot of
the Tsarist iconography, the Tsarist eagles big and the old
Tsaris flag has come big. And I remember saying to
(17:41):
one of them is, I don't get it. You've got
all this Tsarist shit, but you've also still got lots
of like Soviet iconography. You still got hammers and sickles
and all that and there. And I'm like, I was like,
the Bolsheviks killed the whole Tsaris family to murdered that
whole class, and yet you're celebrating both of them at
the same time. I don't get it. And then he
(18:03):
looked at me and said, you guys, you fly you
fly the Dixie flag, right yeah. Like it was like
so he's like, what's the difference, And I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Know, yeah, but the thing is what the example he
used about us like that also is stupid, so like that,
but that's to me, that sounds like like when people
a version of whenever you're like, I think fast food
workers should be paid more generally, and then somebody will
(18:32):
be like, really, you think somebody flipping burgers should be
paid this much When I'm an EMT and I make
three dollars less than that, that's bullshit. And it's like, yeah, no,
I think that you both should be paid more. Like
you also are being screwed up. You should be paid
more too.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I think I don't know why you automatically assume I
think that I want you to lose this scenario.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah. No, it's also stupid when people fly the Confederate
flag of the American flag all Like, I agree with
you about that. I've had stand up bits about that too,
about the ironic nature of that whole thing, because yeah,
that makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Let me ask you a little bit about how you
come up with stuff, because for people who haven't listened
to Trey, I would encourage you to find them on
social media Instagram, go to his shows, go to his website.
But you come up with these really clever like quips
and it looks like you're riffing.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So now I like, I'll tell. So what I'll do
is I'll tell I'll just I just sit here and
think about one of the things that I think are
absurd or stupid about this or whatever, and I'll make
little bullet points and a notepad or what not, whatnot,
and then I'll just start actually riffing on it, but
just to myself, but out loud, sitting round here in
this office usually, and just do that a few times
until it's sort of where I think, Okay, that's about
(19:57):
that's pretty much it, and then I just go out
to the jeep and just type it.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I liked when you were talking about Hegesith, when he
called in all the generals and admirals. You called him
General Patton himself on the back, talking about the rules
of engage are more like rules of gay shit.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I want you to draft a memo to military leadership,
tell them they all gotta come here for a meeting
on the thirtieth, Yes, sir, And what should I say
is the purpose of this unprecedented and clearly vitally important
meeting so I could talk mad shit and get everybody
hype as fuck, bro, that's what.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Don't tell him that though, I want it to be
a surprise.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, I'm gonna go set deaf jam on these bitches
that don't say that sounded super black.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
I don't know why I said. It's could be sweet
as fuck.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Put put that in the memo, say attendance is mandatory,
but it will be sweet as fuck though.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Signed Hegg's dog right. He was very into it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
He had the American flag up there behind him, and
I guess so General patting himself on the back must
have hit a gas mask bong filled with his own
farts before he got started, because he was feeling himself.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Boy, he get up there like, all right, first things first,
kick ass and rip shit. That's what we do. It's
starting today. We're going to old school, right. I don't
want to hear any more of this. Woe cass oo.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Did you need a convention MS to view occasional with
these bullshit? I got rules of engagement more like rules
of engay shit, war crimes.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Give me more crimes, That's what I say.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Thereck come, motherfucker lighting shit ups in seventeen seventy six, bitch. Also,
no more fatties, no sir. Starting today, we're all gonna
be ripped as hell. We're gonna train him in May
and we're painting flames and all the tanks. It's gonna
be fucking sick. We're gonna have tight ass haircuts, perfectly
shaved jaw lines. And note that's not because I can't
grow a good beard. I don't want it reported that
that last thing is because I can't grow a good beard.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I liked that one because that one was a little
bit different for me, because it was mostly most of
that video was me pretending to be in character as
Pete Hegseth and just doing this like over the top,
super frat browie address to the military address or whatever,
and so like he's put himself in front of a
gigantic American flag. The first thing I think most people
(21:50):
think of, because I grew up in my dad's video
store as a kid, so I was a big movie
guy and stuff. I don't think of Paton immediately. And
then from there he literally talked about rules of engagement
in real life. He said, so, we're not gonna be
like bound by rules of it, and he set it
to kind of smart me, Well, like we're not gonna
be bound by these rules of engagement or whatever, and
so then and so he he really did say that
(22:10):
his actual address that he gave I basically in my head,
I was like, and I don't even remember right now.
I'd have to go back and look at it. What
the lit But it was like a list of things
that he covered or topics he went into that I
thought were particularly wild or crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I was wondering, if you do this for like Portland,
so instead of showing up with slingshots and you know,
and Molotov cocktails, they're showing up in dinosaur costumes and
floud costumes. And what's your take on pushing back on
authoritarianism but using absurdity? Almost Dada isn't if you will?
Speaker 4 (22:42):
As of right now, unless something else happens, I think
the next video I do is probably going to be
about this, because I've been thinking because I've just been
loving all the Portland stuff or whatever, and it's I
feel like Trump's all launching the fascist takeover whatever in
Portland particularly is probably gonna end up being a mistake,
I hope, because of this exact thing, because like I think,
(23:03):
I think that they're handling it perfectly because uske hows
it come across a broader audience nowadays, Who the hell knows?
But I feel like the main narrative that trumping them
uses that these are like war torn hellscapes, these cities
that are torn apart by liberal terrorists and criminals run
(23:24):
them up because the blue leaders don't have the balls
necessary to keep them in control. And someone's got to
go in there and clean these streets up, right, And
like Pat Ball's hear that on fat Fox News and
they're like, ah, someone doesn't to go in there and
clean these streets up. So Fox News shows up or
whoever Newsmax and any of them, trying to get footage
of this that they can use to further fearmonger with.
(23:46):
And it's like a guy in a frog suit and
an inflatable t rex fucking playing hopscotch or whatever in
front of these in front of these like Stormtrooper guys.
I feel like, no matter how brainwashed by any of
this propaganda, you are like, there's no way to spend
that as like these these guys' lives are endangered from
(24:07):
these anthropomorphic cartoon character. There's no way. It's just not scary.
I feel like anyone, I don't care how deep in
all that you are, you see that footage and you
go like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like it's
that much of a war zone. Feels more like who
framed Roger rabbit to me, but so yeah, I'm all
for it. Actually had a on my last special there's
(24:29):
a bit about even before any of this ever happened,
just about Portland in general, and about how they have
this very strange dynamic at play in their heads when
it comes to places like Portland or just the far left,
where it's like they boat on the one hand, they
think Portland is nothing but just a bunch of efaciated
baristas with a handlebar mustache or whatever, you know what
I mean. But on the other hand, they're like Antifa
(24:51):
super commandos, you know what I mean. And it's both
at the same time, and it's it's just inherently ridiculous.
And I said, and I said back then, I was like,
if you think about it, you should be afraid of
those people, really, even if that is what they are,
because I was like, imagine you're in the middle of
some full fledged riot or whatever, and then out of
the smoke bomb haze comes with them comes some motherfucker
(25:13):
dress up like a haberdasher riding one of those big
front wheel bicycles or whatever, and you're gonna try to
make fun of that guy. I how you get choked
out with a pocket watch chain. That's what I said
it was like, and I was like, whimsical anarchy. You
don't want none of that. I think it's the best
possible approach that you could take to this exact type
of thing, because I think that in general, they don't
(25:35):
deserve to be taken seriously. I think that not being
taken seriously pisses them off almost more than anything making
fun of them all that type of stuff. They're just
they're very thin skinned, and it's like they want you
to just like that's fact. They want the molotods and
all that stuff because they know exactly how they respond
to that, and they're begging you to give them a
chance to do.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
What I think you do really well is you take
a very serious thing and you make fun of it,
but you don't lose the fact that it's serious. Like
when you talk you did one on Chicago and them,
you know, ice repelling from helicopters, and how excited they
must be deck like real military guys.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I just did a raid on a Chicago apartment building
where they repelled from helicopters in the middle of the
night and terrorized a bunch of US citizens, many of
whom were children by dragging them into the streets and
ransacking their homes. And you just know they felt so
cool doing it too, especially because that helicopter part. Like
in their minds, these guys are all like starring in
an early ninety Stephens Segall movie, but in reality they're
(26:33):
starring in a twenty twenty Stephen Sagall movie, like you know,
the ones where he's fat and sucks and everything's dumb
about it all, Like this is insanity, and they know that.
They don't care, you know, in fact, it's all part
of the plan. They're just gonna keep escalating and instigating
and pushing Americans further and further. And when we finally
pushed back, Trump's just gonna declare insurrection the way Michaels
got declared bankruptcy and bam martial law and the death
(26:54):
of democracy. Well, we cannot give them what they want here,
a right, like we have to keep protesting all this shit, sure,
but without falling into their trap and becoming violent, except
for throwing sandwiches at them.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
That shit's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It is a serious thing, a potentially dangerous thing, but
it is also worth making fun of.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
They really do worry about being made fun of, right,
This is why they're trying to get rid of the
late night comics Jimmy Kimmel. This is why they're up
there high on the list. That along with creating fake
enemies like Soros or whatever Antifa is right is if
who could be pro Nazi, right other than the guy
in the Congressman's office with the Nazi flag embedded into
the American But can there be? And I'd love to
(27:35):
see it if it is? Can there be deeply conservative
comedians that are successful? The whole point is to go
against authority to laugh at it. How is punching down funny? Right?
I mean, well, how does that work? And could there
be a because I see they tried to do a
conservative Jimmy Kimmel and it like flop.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
My cousin Steven Crowder, who were not actually related like him,
he calls himself a comedian, but like they all have
the same idea of like they think that just like
saying racist stereotypes or whatever and then laughing afterwards is
like is being funny or is and that's not how,
that's not how any of that act that's not actually funny?
They do that with racism or homophobia or whatever, and
(28:15):
then they get all mad when you tell them that's
stupid or not cool or whatnot. But look, you said,
could there be I the I think, and I hope
that this is about to change and shift back. But
for at least the past couple of years, the biggest
comedians on earth have been conservative and right wing guys.
And that's something that like I never ever intic. I've
(28:40):
been like a comedy nerd my whole life, before I
ever started doing comedy, which is fifteen years ago, and
the whole time I've been doing it. And that's one
thing I never ever anticipated, because like you said, I
always had the same perspective on it. It was like comedy
or even being a good comedian is inherently progressive, or
at the very least, it's like skeptical and you question
authority and that type of thing. So anybody that's gonna
(29:00):
fall in lockstep with an authoritarian regime or be fascist
boot liquors or whatever, it's it's just it's antithetical to
everything that comedy or satire supposed represent. That's what I
always thought. But what happened. This isn't news. Everybody saw
this unfold basically the left has the left got more
and more emboldened to like scold people, especially about don't
(29:21):
say that word, don't make those jokes, don't do this,
don't do that, or whatever. And comedians in particular, especially
a lot of big ones, were like, you're not gonna
tell me what I can't what I can and can't
joke about it, and they got very defensive about it. It's
the type of thing that ever, and when I said that,
you know, I'm talking about very famously Dave Chappelle with
his like trans jokes or whatever, it.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Felt like everybody didn't want to go to call.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And when they got pushed back against that when people
are like, yeah, you shouldn't do those jokes because they're bad,
and a lot of these comedians are like, fuck you,
and then they like.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
And then that pushed them further in the other direction,
and that sort of led to a lot of them
falling in league with the current iteration of the American
right just because they were aligned against that type of mentality,
and that led to them like being ancillary to a
lot of much more dangerous shit, but also hugely important
part of it that you can'tnot say. When they did this.
They also found that it was incredibly lucrative, like the
(30:14):
right wing grift or whatever. They made a lot of
found that it was very make a lot of money
from doing that, and so then they became there were
comics who started trying to get canceled so that they
could become part of that whole world because they saw
how successful that it could make you be. And there's
been some backpedaling from guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew
Shelton dudes like that about Trump particularly. There's been things
(30:38):
like Mark Marin taking a lot of these guys to
task about and he had a bit from a special
went viral where he said, if Hitler was alive today,
he'd do Theo Bond's podcast right, And that apparently upset
Theo and Rogan a lot of them, but also got
made a lot of headlines and a lot of people.
There's I don't know if you'll have heard of this
thing called the Elephant Graveyard. If y'all heard of that
YouTube channel, you should look it up if you're at
(30:59):
all interested in this. It's this guy who makes these
video essays about this whole world basically and taking it
to task and calling it out and there's a weird
kind of comedy civil war opening right now or brewing
about this whole kind of thing. And you said, how
it's punching down like that funny. That was Marin's whole thing.
When he went on his recent tirade against it, he
was like, look, you won, like you won, Like these
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people are disenfranchised and we're gonna to bring drug out
in the streets, trans people are afraid to exist, all
this stuff. You won. When are you going to stop
with the jokes?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, it's like the Also he's made this point. A
bunch show people made this point, but it's true. It
very quickly becomes hack because they're all again. Once it
became evident to a lot of up and coming comedians
and stuff that this is how you get to the
arena level, to get to whatever, they all started making
the same jokes about the same things. They all started
bitching about wokeness and talking about trans people, and when
(31:52):
everybody's doing the same thing again, it becomes hack and
pandery and it's bad. But they tried to act like
somehow that was edgy or whatever, And I guess it
was edgy, but not in a good way, and it's
just been it's been a weird time.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
How do you do with Heckler's you've got you must
get heckled? Mega folks mutst commit either target you or.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
As far as maga people. So my whole comedy CARU,
so far, I seem to have existed at what I
call a like internet comment level of hatred, which means
like they don't hate me enough yet to leave their
house and buy a ticket and come stand in line
and call me a queer or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I feel like Donald Trump has been the butt of
jokes since before he even got into politics, like for years,
and some of it I don't know, Maybe he just
doesn't see all of it. Maybe it's like only the
stuff that he sees or is confronted with he just
can't move past and it drives him insane. And then
other stuff people shield from him and never finds out about,
because I don't get how he picks and choose what
(33:07):
to be incensed by, because because it's a NonStop deluge
of people making fun of his stupid as every day
you know you.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Mentioned We've mentioned all a number of times, us and them, right,
which I only half reject I think there is of
them because they have this messianic figure. It's a cult.
They have things you have to believe in, right, you
have to believe that twenty twenty was You have to
believe to be in the cult that twenty twenty was ripped.
You don't have to know how, you just know it was.
(33:38):
And January sixth was a day of love. And but
the US part I have no idea what you think
of Joe Biden. I didn't think of a whole lot
of them. I think he was a mediocre if that president,
And I don't like AOC doesn't speak for me, and
so on the one side, I think there's a the
not Mega. It's pretty amorphous. There's no other despite the
(34:00):
fact that it's on the other side, the Mega side
is they all deserve to die because of Charlie Kirk.
They want who the fuck is they? I don't know, Yeah,
but there is a they from the progressive side. Right,
if you're if you wearing a truck t shirt, you're
wearing a MEGA hat and you buy into the religion
of it, it's you know, there's a there are things,
(34:21):
and people don't want to leave. They don't want to
say that. Yeah, maybe Joe Biden won fair and spare
because now you're out there's an in and out, there's
contours around them.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, the left is a very the left in general
or just like you said, not MAGA, especially if you
frame it that way, is a very varied, diverse coalition
or like you said, a morphois grouping of people. It's
part of the problem that they have in getting anything
done ever or pushing back on stuff is they can't
agree on pretty much anything, and you're so many different factions.
But that's I feel like that's inherent to being the
(34:52):
official side of different types of people or different belief
systems or whatever, because really the other side is just
it's not it's pretty narrowly defined. They have like their
tokens and stuff. But there's like really a pretty clearly
defined type of person that it's okay to be in
in MAGA world, and that's like a straight Christian, capitalist
conservative pretty much. So the videos we've been talking about,
(35:14):
I've been I called those videos the liberal redneck videos
or whatever, but I actually recently and I didn't make
any announcement or about it or whatever, but I stopped,
I took that out. I took that out on my
social media bios, and I took it out of the
title of videos and stuff and I just call them
like trade crowded rants or just have it under my
name now or whatever. And I was telling this. I
was on this other political podcast with a lefty buddy
(35:34):
mine in California, and I told him I changed it,
and he was like, oh, yeah, you just weren't comfortable
being associated with rednecks anymore. And I was like what, No.
I was like, it's because of liberal is the reason
that I stopped using it. I was like it was
and he was like what. I was like, yeah, because
when I first started doing that in twenty sixteen, especially
being from the South, liberal just meant like liberal democrat,
(35:55):
not Republican. All those things were like basically synonymous. But
I feel like now with the neoliberals and the establishment
Democrats and all that, it's become more clearly defined when
it's associated with people like the very cool cor Democrats
like Chuck Schumer and those guys. And I was just like,
that ain't my bag anymore. But to go back to
what we're talking about, so it is amorphis and we
(36:18):
are divided even on the whole left and all that
in opposition to them, and like you said, there is
them from our perspective. But I think that kind of
makes it true in both directions because it's like with
the philosophies of viewpoints and goals that they have. To me,
the way everyone should look at it, it is us
in them, because it's like you said, maga and not maga, right,
that is the us and them. That's the way people
(36:40):
are going to have to start looking at it. I
think it's like you're either on board for a totalitarian
fascist dictatorship essentially here authoritarian regime and late stage capitalism
and all that. You're either like down with that, and
if you're not, then you're on our team or you
should be.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Letting taught way back way. It's just as fascist than
a small vanguard party with a strong leadership and goals
is has more strength and more ability to bring about
change to take power than the ninety percent. The Bolsheviks
were small minority even within the socialist movement Russia. But
(37:17):
because they were they had a direction, they had a plan,
they had contours, they had.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
They were to kill their opponents.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
There were yeah, there were more vicious yeah, and that
that made them more. I don't know what were the
Bolsheviks five percent, three percent? Even.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I want to ask one comedian question, and it has
to do with the whole comedian Saudi Arabia Riod thing. Yeah,
what's your take on on that?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I almost got into that earlier when I was talking
about the right word shift in comedy lately and but
I said, but lately, I feel like maybe the pendulum
swinging back, and I was like Mark Maren doing this whatever.
But and I almost got into Riodd because I think
that's part of a part of that hopeful shift as well.
But the Reodd Festival specifically, First things first, No, I
was not asked. I don't think they would have asked.
(38:04):
That makes it very easy for all for me to
say all of what follows, because I didn't have a
gigantic check put in front of me that I had
to walk away from. So I'm acknowledging that, Yeah, I
found it. I didn't. I don't feel the same about
literally every comedian that did it. I don't think that
they're all in the same position. There's plenty of comics
who went over there that Again, the check that they
got from that is like bigger by orders of magnitude
(38:25):
than anything they've ever gotten before. They're not household names,
they don't have more money than they could ever spend.
Their future is not at all necessarily secured, and it's
and then also there's some of them that it's like
there's no hypocrisy involved. It's like, like, I don't know
the guy. I think he's funny, he's one of the
biggest stars on earth. Seems like a nice dude. But like,
I don't think anyone was all that surprise that Kevin
Hart took the money to go, do you know what
(38:45):
I mean? He's a He's on a Draft Kings commercial
every other commercial break every day, like he you pu
out the check book, Kevin Hart's gonna show up, and
everybody knows that about him. It's so that made it
better for him with this because it's like people aren't surprised,
and I don't think he would deny any of that.
He's I'm in this for the money or whatever. But
some of them it was, you know, it was like, dude,
what are you doing? You know? And like, I mean
(39:08):
the one that gets talked about the mode of course,
and I agree with it. I'm a huge fan myself
and I have met this guy a couple of times.
Love him. But like Bill Burr's whole recent thing that
he's been on, which has been like very anti capitalist,
very anti billionaire, this shit's going to be the ruin
of us all. He's been a voice of reason in
a lot of ways, and so to be that guy
I do all that and have people rally around him
(39:30):
for that, and then go over there and shuck and
jive for the Saudi Royals, the people who cop journalist's
heads off and all that stuff and kill women with
rocks for talking at the wrong time or having a
collar drome show and or whatever they do over it.
But like it's just it just feels pretty hard to
justify to me. But it would be one thing if
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they went and did it and then came back and
we're just like, look, man, what do you want me
tell you? If someone offered you the amount of money
I got offered for one show, I'd like to see
you say no to it. If they came back and
said that, I'd be like, yeah, you're right, I don't
I'm not in that position. I don't know, But that's
not what most of them have been doing. They've been
getting self righteous about it and acting like, no, really,
(40:13):
this was like a humanitarian sort of ambassadorship that we
were doing over there. This is like cultural outreach. We'll see.
We were going over there to try to help the
waves of progress move forward throughout this country because they're
trying to do better and we wanted to assist them
in that. That just to me makes it kind of
even worse because it's like, no, no, you weren't. No,
(40:33):
it isn't that's not And also, by the way, I
probably should have started with this, but I didn't. Many
times over the years, I've had fans of mine who
are very you know, people on the left for sure. Periodically,
whenever there's some new trans bill or whenever there's some
voting restriction shit going on in North Carolina or Georgia
or whatever, and I've got shows coming up in Charlotte
or Atlanta or whatever, I will have fans of mine
(40:56):
who live in California or Portland or whatever say to
me like, are you still going to do that show?
Are you really going to go to North Carolina right now?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Like?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Are you not boycotting North Carolina? Bruce Springsteen is boycotting
North Carolina, it's okay. Well, I'm not Bruce Springsteen. I
don't think I had the same cultural impact that the
Boss does. I'm probably not going to make as many
headlines that he did by doing that. But also, no,
I'm not gonna do that because when I go there,
the people that come to the show are going to
be people who also hate that trans bathroom bill and
(41:26):
who want to go to a comedy show. Why should
I punish them for the bullshit that their government does
in their state. It's not their fault. No, of course
I'm not going to do that. And that exact same
logic would apply to just doing a regular tour date
in Saudi Arabia. If you just set up a tour
date at a venue there and said, people are fans
of mine, buy tickets and come see me, then I
(41:48):
would have zero problem with it. It would be the
exact same thing as me doing that show in North
Carolina during the trans bathroom stuff. But that isn't what
happened here. This literally was like an entertainment washing campaign
funded by the regime itself to get people to stop
associating them with fucking beheadings and lack of prespeech and
all that shit, and that makes it different.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
This would be more like me again, and I'd never
be asked, but me going to do like a private
sing at mar A Lago celebrating the life of Jeffrey
Epstein or whatever, you know what I mean, Like if
I was the entertainment for that and I agreed to
do it and then and it'd be like and then
tried to justify that that's more like what this.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Was put in. Those dudes again, who I think are awesome,
and like I said, it's not all created equals. Some
of them I'm like less disappointed in, and even the
ones I am more disappointed in, they don't give a fuck,
and I wouldn't either if I was them, probably, But
they've got plenty of black backlash for it, and they're
clearly surprised by that. But I'm sure it's like anything,
it'll dissipate everything the next thing, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
And we will look for the next thing to get
your opinion on it and get your teake on it.
So again, thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Thanks for having me back on. It was fun. It's
always a pleasure. I'll tell everybody. Go to Trey Crowder
dot com to check out tour dates. If you want
to come see me, and I'm just Trey Crowder t
R A. E. Crowder on any your preferred social media platform.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
You're showing Honolulu. I'd love to Coconut Brazier.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Why do you bring up that? Coconut Brazier says everything
to tourists.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
We get them up.
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Speaker 2 (43:18):
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