October 26, 2025 • 43 mins
Comedian Trae Crowder (aka The Liberal Redneck) is here to prove that not everyone from The South is MAGA, and tried to understand why so many are, despite the inherent contradictions with their prior attitudes and what's in their self-interest. Also, how comedians are the such a threat to authoritarians.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm John Cipher and I'm Jerry O'sha.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We have over.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Sixty years of experience as clandestine officers in the CIA,
serving in high risk areas all around the world, and part.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Of our job was creating conspiracies to deceive our adversaries.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Now we're going to use that experience to investigate the
conspiracy theories everyone's talking about as well as some of
you may not have heard.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Could they be true or are we being manipulated?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
We'll find out now on Mission Implausible.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Today's guest is Trey Crowder. He's the liberal redneck.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
He's a comedian with a big following on YouTube and
social media and the author of several books. He's from
rural Tennessee and you can see the dates for his
nationwide comedy tour on his website.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So welcome, Trey.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
So Trey, and we're going to put you into the
mindset of the CIA, right, and I want you to
take us through how this conspiracy work. I want you
to sneak into Congress. I want you to go into
a congressional office, and I want you to take a
plan with a swastika on American Click and I want
you to pin it behind a professional staffers billboard and
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have him not know because they're claiming this.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Is a conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So looking at it from your point of view, how
do you do this and who benefits? Who is who's
really behind the swastika in Congress.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I would think that the first part, the hall
part of that, which is just like getting a Nazi
American flag onto a congressman's court board in his office,
probably wouldn't be that hard from actual training ceioperative, I
would think, you know, you just dress up like an intern,
mander in there. Whenever he's like off trying to make
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bedroom eyse of some other congressman's intern in the hall
or whatever. His guy's back turn. You just pin up
to the court board and go about your married way.
But the yeah, the more interesting part is like why
would you do that, especially to that guy in particular.
You know, we're talking about a leftist deep state here,
which is of course the reality is everyone knows it.
Marks this communist deep state that we have operating in
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this country. I guess it would be to somehow show
further division and make people more, to further villify and
demonize these good hearted, red blooded Christian Americans that are
serving in Congress as conservatives like that guy whose name
already can't remember and don't think I knew before it happened.
(02:28):
Is he Ohio guy?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah? The congressman is an Ohio guy.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Right, I don't know why you target that guy. You'd
think you'd go for somebody with a little more of
a little more presence.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
They're implying that this is a conspiracy theory, right that
it Yeah, somehow it's the deep leftist state is coming
in and done this for whatever reason. How does this
come across or doesn't this come across? And you know
where you grow up.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think, as much as I hate to say this,
I mean I think they probably just buy that whatever
that some at the very least, that somebody is just
pranking this guy, or that he didn't actually do. It's
essentially just become a matter of like whatever they say,
you just roll with that. So when they say, like, oh,
I didn't put up a knight, they'd be crazy. Why
would I put up a Nazi flag of my on off, which,
by the way, that is crazy, But like he just says,
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it'd be crazy. I wouldn't do that. Someone else must
have done that. And I think most people in like
my hometown that love Maga shit or whatever just go, yeah, right,
that's true. Someone else must have done that.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Because it's not like young Republicans would be putting like
I love Hitler or anything on chatboards or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's what I was actually about to say, because I
think it's more of a it's easily just as likely,
which is this is what always happens anytime there's some
unknown agent provocateur operating with any of this stuff in
people's minds, or even just like you don't know the
motivations of a person and they automatically just jump to
leftist terrorist or leftist saboteur or whatever. But I think
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it's like it wouldn't surprise me at all if that.
I'm not even trying to give that congressman the benefit
of the doubt. But the idea that some intern or
somebody has on his staff is like some twenty something
edge lord, grouper, nick fuintest fan or whatever that type
of guy who like who thinks he'd be funny to
put that on the courtboard in the congressman's office. But
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in a I'm spreading the word type of way, or
like a I'm getting our like tagging, like graffiti artists
like tag things like tag logos and stuff around town.
Is almost like a sort of like weird street pr campaign.
It's like that, but for internet basement dwelling Nazis or whatever.
Just because he thinks it's funny, he just takes a
picture of it and post it with the caption, Lol
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you are gay on their roar group matt and message
board or whatever. Do you know what I'm saying? It
could also be that, and that wouldn't surprise me either,
So who's to say what I'm pretty sure it isn't is? Yeah,
the far left CIA apparatus for GOTT, I guess, of course. Yeah.
(04:59):
Always you guys, I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Even know this when you guys are like so far
ahead of me in terms of the keeping up with
these things. I've been very focused though, on the RFK
talking about how circumcision leads to autism. That's where I've been,
That's where I've been spending my time.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I can't even keep up with all of his lunacy
because the last thing I saw, actually I don't think
I had seen the circumcision when I had seen the
last thing I saw from him was talking about He
said that teenage boys have fifty percent lower sperm count
than sixty five year old men. Do girls hit puberty
six years younger than normal, And then he ended it
with parents aren't having children anymore, which is like, I mean,
(05:38):
I know what he means, but that's a funny way
to put that, because it's like, right, well, then you know,
then they're not paid, they're not having children, and they're
not parents, and if they are parents, then they are
still having children. So it's just she choose your words better.
But anyway, yeah, he's just always I saw someone say
about him. If that guy didn't have that job and
wasn't from like a prominent family, it was just like
standing on some random street corner saying, most of that shit,
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you'd give me a dollar carry away from him. Yeah, right,
give him a dollar, and then gets as far away
from him as quickly as pod.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I saw some polling today though that it's easy to
laugh at and we know he's a fool. But they
asked after he said that titl and all causes whatever,
they pulled people in a much larger group of people said, oh, yes,
tailand all causes. I'm gonna stay away from Tyland, I'll
cause it. People want someone to look up to to
tell him things, and they listen. And there's people who
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were like completely bought in, of course, But then there's
there is a group of people who think that you
know he's in the job. You must know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That last group of people you brought up has always
been so hard for me to wrap my head around,
like the one group we've already mentioned twice, the ones
that are for the true believers, the ones that are
fully bought in, Like, I mean, that's crazy to me too,
but I just I get it in terms of thinking
about it as like cultish devotion literally cultish devotion, or
even just having blinders on in a like favorite sports
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team sort of mentality or whatever. But it's just whatever
what we do and say is right. Because we do
and say it, then it doesn't. Nothing else matters. But
the idea of like regular people who aren't bought in
either way and just live their lives. But that would
see some of those statements and be like, this is
an authority figure and we should all trust authority figures,
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including this, Like it's wild to me that those people
have survived in the wild and the current society that
we all currently live in, Like I totally I feel
like it used to be that way for most people
for a very long time. But it just you would
think that that's got meaning, Like you know, like everybody
brings up all the time in the media, like everyone
used to just inherently trust, like Walter Cronkite or whatever,
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and that is the way that it should have been.
But like I'm just saying, I don't know how you
lived through the past ten plus years without realizing that
those days are over, unfortunately. And I feel like when
quanon was first becoming a thing, the entree into it
was this notion that kids are in danger, like children
are bringing sex, trafficked and fucking adducted and murdered and
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all this stuff and no one's doing anything about it.
I get as a parent, I understand hearing that and
being like, oh, no, that sounds bad. Someone should do
something about that, and like looking further into it, like
I get that very first step. What I don't get
is that very shortly after that you turn the next
(08:24):
page and it's like, yeah, shadowy global cabal of liberal
elite vampires spearheaded by Bill Gates and Tom Hanks are
harvesting blood from infants to get the adrena chrome out
of it or whatever, with the help of the deep State.
And whenever you get to that page of it, I
don't get out. You're like, what the f okay? Never mind?
That's clearly inside because I from my perspective, there was
(08:47):
no like you did that. There was no slow rolling
of it that I'm aware of. Like where they go.
They start with a person, you know, it starts with like,
kids are in danger. Don't you care about kids? Of
course I do? And then they like very gradually walk
you through this progressively crazier development or explanation of what's
going on. It Never it didn't seem that way to me.
(09:09):
It seemed like it was like, oh, kids are in danger,
don't you care about that? Yeah? I do? What's going on?
And then straight to the global cabal and all that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Kids are in danger.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That would be something that you think you could rarely around,
like young girls are in danger, right, but now today
when the shoes on the other foot, kids are in danger.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The Epstein files, Yeah, we've got to do something. You
got to do something.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, And then all of a sudden, some really senior
people in the manga movement are like, yeah, nothing to
see here, move on. The great leader has spoken, right,
and no he didn't do the raunchy birthday card with
the pubic hair, right, Like, well, yeah, okay, maybe so
some of this verges on I'm really on principles, right.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It was like in or lack of or the absence thereof, Oh.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
The absence there are. But yeah, no, so young girls
are in danger. We got to do something about it.
In theory, okay, but then when it's announced that Trump
is in the files and who else is in the files?
All his friends and I don't care, Democrat, Republican, whatever,
but it's yeah, no, we're not gonna we're not going
to pursue that anymore. The head of the FBI was
the one singing this right, and the deputy dam Gonngino.
(10:14):
They made a career out of this. Again, if you
go back to the Nazi times, it's fasciled. But it's
like the Bolsheviks are the big problem. They're evil, and
then there's the hit with Styalin.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Pick.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, we can get along with them, they're fine, and
then they're not again. Yeah, the control of what people's
principles are is something that I find difficult to understand.
I mean, either you believe something or you don't write in.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
One hundred percent. And that example in particular, very briefly,
I did get the impression that when that first happened,
and by that when BONDI and then like first announced
nothing to see here, there is no real Epstein list
and nothing else is going to happen, so everybody just
forget about it. There was like definitely at least some
backlash from like people the right to mag of people
(11:01):
think little bit qu up like for and when that
first happened, I was like, I was still. Don't get
me wrong, I was skeptical the whole time. I thought
that this might what appears to have happened, that that
it would eventually happen. But still at the very beginning,
I was like, okay, so have we did we finally
find it? Like it there is still a line like
(11:22):
a line in the sand that can be crossing them,
and this is it? This is actually it? Because that
would be nice if we finally found it. But yeah,
it I think that a lot of them, I don't know,
that was just it was too much to ask for
them to just immediately pretend like they didn't, to go
from being like this is the most important thing ever
in the history of this country to like nothing to
see here was too much to ask it for even
(11:43):
for them, but not all of them. Some of them
like literally flipped on a dime, no problem whatsoever. But
for a lot of them that was too much to ask.
But just stretch it out, just just keep going.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's too hard to leave the team.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, you don't leave the team, and you get enough
other things to get mad about. You let time pass
and you can just sort of without ever openly betraying
your own principles in that matter or publicly doing it,
you can just eventually ignore it and go back to
the being incensed about trans people and immigrants and all
that shit or whatever, and just not talk about it anymore.
(12:16):
And that seems to be what they've done.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, Tray, you seem to have a real understanding and
work with from Tennessee and the South. So can you
talk to me a little bit about Southern culture, the
sort of military football, tough guy people are heroes. I mean,
it seems to me like Ice is like a perfect
metaphor for what Southern men want if they get to
dress up like warriors and beat up on weak people,
Like what is it about the South that, like as
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early as the fifties and sixties started to switch over
to be very conservative and then eventually probably even more
like my ish.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
When you're talking about that particular aspect and hypermasculinity and
getting to do rob Ross shit and be a badass
and all that, I think it was deaf. A lot
of that was always there, at least in my experience,
you know. I mean I was a kid in the
nineties and everything, and it was still that was still
especially like football, being a badass, all that was always
(13:11):
part of it. A lot of guys joined the military.
A lot of that was also like predatory recruitment practices
focused on like poverty stricken places. You didn't have a
lot of options, and plus you get a sweet ass
charger out of the deal, so it was very effective.
I had a lot of friends that did that. But
at the same time, though, and I don't know where
ice fits into this, because they're mostly only doing it
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to brown people, so that's maybe different. But like I've
talked a lot about, and it's true, and I have examples.
I can point to to prove it. But even when
I was a kid in the nineties, like Cops, so
not just cops, but also just authority figures, the government.
All of that was not shit that these people liked
or cheered on or were on board with. So like
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the whole NASCAR, which is hugely popular amongst rednecks, was
literally like founded by like moonshiners running from the cops
and shit and smoking the bandit the dukes of hazard,
like just running from the law as a time honored
redneck tradition. There's like every other episode of Cops has
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got redneck shit going on in it. They're like natural enemies,
or at least they were, but also, like I said,
just the government and the fuck and it also like
rich people, the bank man I can come and taking
your property, or like the company men, and like coal
miners and the union fights and that type of shit
and all this stuff that used to matter. And even
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I'm a big Tennessee Vaults fan. And then we do
Rocky Top is the state song of Tennessee, and they
sing it at the football games. And then there's a
line in that song sounds innocuous or whatever, but says
once two strangers climbed old Rocky Top looking for a moonshine.
Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top and reckon
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they never will. Fun Still strangers climb no Rocky Top
looking for a moonshine.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top, Rocky Nay,
never will.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Rocky you know, to me.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Rocket up.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Those are about like federal agents going up there and
looking to shut people's like moonshine still found and getting us.
There's a rebel culture against right, but now there anymore,
no that, And that's I'm saying. Even when I was
a kid in the nineties, all that was there, that's
fucked the man kind of mentality type we're on our
own type of thing. And now they're all like boot lickers,
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like straight up boot lickers, and it's weird.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
The military was always different. They always like they back then.
They definitely supported the troops, especially I was fifteen when
nine to eleven happened, especially after nine to eleven, of course,
but that didn't extend to like I said, any type
of like cops or like Fed cops or Feds or
any of that. No, definitely not. And now they'll I
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mean Obviously the FED thing is weird because you whatever,
because now the deep state is lefty shit or however
any of that works. I don't know. It's all confusing,
but yes, there used to be rebellious and have ish
not cowtow to authority at all, and that type of thing,
and now they're all lining up to lick the boots
and stuff and they put like thin blue line punisher
stickers on the back of their jacked up trucks and shit.
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And it's weird to me. I've thought it was again.
I've talked about this a ton over, I've had stand
up bits about it, I've made videos about it. I
find it to be very odd, and I don't really
have an explanation for it outside of just that side
getting framed in opposition to the side of black and
brown people and queer people and all that type of stuff,
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which is like they were more put off by all
that when they or the other thing. But outside of that,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So related to that, maybe John can jump into a
CIA officers.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We dealt a lot with Russians, and we used to
know him as the Soviets, and they had the red
flag with a hammer and sickle, and then the Sovietan's
over and they brought back a lot of the Tsarist iconography.
The Tsarist eagles big and the old Tsaris flag has
come big.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And I remember saying to one of them is, I
don't get it.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
You've got all this Tsarist shit, but you've also still
got lots of like Soviet iconography. You still got hammers
and sickles and all that and there. And I'm like,
I was like, the Bolsheviks killed the whole Tsaris family
and murdered that whole class, and yet you're celebrating both
of them at the same time. I don't get it.
And then he looked at me and said, you guys,
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you fly you fly the Dixie flag.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Right. It's like it was like, so he's like, what's
the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And I'm like, I don't know, you know, but the
thing is what the example he used about us like
that also is stupid, so like that it still means there,
But that's to me, that sounds like like when people
a version of whenever you're like, I think fast food
workers should be paid more generally, and then somebody will
(18:13):
be like, really, you think somebody flipping burgers should be
paid this much. When I'm an EMT and I make
three dollars less than that, that's bullshit. And it's like, yeah, no,
I think that you both should be paid more. Like
you also are being screwed up. You should be paid
more too. I think I don't know why you automatically assume.
I think that I want you to lose in this scenario. Yeah. No,
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it's also stupid when people fly the Confederate flag of
the American flag all Like, I agree with you about that.
I've had stand up bits about that too, about the
ironic nature of that whole thing, because yeah, that makes
no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Let me ask you a little bit about how you
come up with stuff, because for people who haven't listened
to Trey, I would encourage you to find them on
social media Instagram, go to his shows, go to his website.
But you come up with these really clever like quips
and it looks like you're riffing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So now, I like, I'll tell. So what I'll do
is I'll tell I'll just I just sit here and
think about one of the things that I think are
absurd or stupid about this or whatever, and I'll make
little bullet points and a notepad or what not, whatnot,
and then I'll just start actually riffing on it, but
just to myself, but out loud, sitting right here in
this office usually, and just do that a few times
until it's sort of where I think, Okay, that's about
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that's pretty much it, and then I just go out
to the jeep and just type it.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I liked when you were talking about Haig Seth when
he called in all the generals and admirals. You called
him General Pettin himself on the back, talking about the
rules of engagement are more like rules of gay shit.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I want you to draft am Inmo of military leadership.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Tell them they all got to come here for a
meeting on the thirtieth, Yes, sir, And what should I
say is the purpose of this unprecedented and clearly vitally
important meeting so I could talk mad shit and get
everybody hype as fuck, bro, that's what.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Don't tell him that though.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I want it to be a surprise. Yeah, I'm gonna
go set deaf jam on these bitches that don't say
I said that sounded super black. I don't know why
I said. It's gonna be sweet as Fuckut put that
in the memo, say attendance is mandatory, but it will
be sweet as fuck though signed. Heg's dog right.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
He was very into it. You know.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
He had the American flag up there behind him, and
I guess so General patting himself on the back must
have hit a gas mask bong filled with his own
farts before he got started, because he was feeling himself.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Boy, he get up there like, all right, first things first,
kick ass and rip shit. That's what we do. And
starting today we're going old school, right. I don't want
to hear any more of this woe cast oom. Did
you need a convention ooms to view you? O casual?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
With these bullshit? I got rules of engagement more like
rules of engay shit, war crimes.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Give me more crimes, That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
American motherfuckers lighting shit up since seventeen seventy six, bitch. Also,
no more fatties, no sir. Starting today, we're all gonna
be ripped as hell. We're gonna train him in May
and we're painting flames and all the tanks is gonna
be fucking sick. We're gonna have tight ass haircuts, perfectly
shaved jaw lines, and no, that's not because I can't
grow a good beard.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
I don't want it reported that that last thing is
because I can't grow a good beard.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I liked that one because that one was a little
bit different for me, because it was mostly most of
that video was me pretending to be in character as
Pete heg Seth and just doing this like over the top,
super frat browie address to the military address or whatever,
and so like he's put himself in front of a
gigantic American flag, the first thing I think most people
think of, because I grew up in my dad's video
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store as a kid, so I was a big movie
guy and stuff. I don't think of Paton immediately. And
then from there he literally talked about rules of engagement
in real life. He said, so, we're not gonna be
like bound by rules of it, and he set it
to kind of smart me, well, like we're not gonna
be bound by these rules of engagement or whatever. And
so then and so he really did say that his
actual address that he gave I basically in my head,
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I was like, and I don't even remember right now,
I'd have to go back and look at it. What
the lit But it was like a list of things
that he covered or topics he went into that I
thought were particularly wild or crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I was wondering, if you do this for like Portland,
so instead of showing up with slingshots and you know,
and molotov cocktails, they're showing up in dinosaur costumes and
floud costumes. And what's your take on pushing back on
authoritarians but using absurdity almost dadaism, if you will.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
As of right now, unless something else happens, I think
the next video I do is probably going to be
about this because I've been thinking, because I've just been
loving all the Portland stuff or whatever it is, I
feel like Trump's off launching the fascist takeover whatever in
Portland particularly, is probably gonna end up being a mistake,
I hope, because of this exact thing, because like I think,
(22:44):
I think that they're handling it perfectly because uske How
has it come across the broader audience nowadays? Who the
hell knows? But I feel like the main narrative that
Trump and them uses that these are like war torn hellscapes,
these cities that are torn apart by liberal terrorists and
(23:04):
criminals run them up because the Blue leaders don't have
the balls necessary to keep them in control, and someone's
got to go in there and clean these streets up, right,
And like Patpall's hear that on fat Fox News and
they're like, Ah, someone doesn't to go in there and
clean these streets up. So Fox News shows up or
whoever Newsmax or any of them, trying to get footage
of this that they can use to further fearmonger with.
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And it's like a guy in a frog suit and
an inflatable t rex fucking playing hopscotch or whatever in
front of these in front of these like stormtrooper guys.
I feel like, no matter how brainwashed by any of
this propaganda, you are like, there's no way to spend
that as like these these guys' lives are endangered from
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these anthropomorphic cartoon characters. There's no way. It's just not scary.
I feel like anyone, I don't care how deep in
all that you are, you see that footage and you
go like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like it
that much of a war zone. Feels more like who
framed Roger Rabbit to me than so, yeah, I'm all
for it. Actually had up on my last special. There's
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a bit but even before any of this ever happened,
just about Portland in general, and about how they have
this very strange dynamic at play in their heads when
it comes to places like Portland or just the far left,
where it's like they boat On the one hand, they
think Portland is nothing but just a bunch of efaciated
baristas with a handlebar mustache or whatever, you know what
I mean. But on the other hand, they're like Antifa
(24:32):
super commandos, you know what I mean. And it's both
at the same time, and it's it's just inherently ridiculous.
And I said, and I said back then, I was like,
if you think about it, you should be afraid of
those people, really, even if that is what they are,
because I was like, imagine you're in the middle of
some full fledged riot or whatever, and then out of
the smoke bomb haze comes when them comes some motherfucker
(24:54):
dress up like a haberdasher riding one of those big
front wheel bicycles or whatever, and you're gonna try to
make fun of that guy. That's how you get choked
out with a pocket watch chain. That's what I said.
And I was like, whimsical anarchy. You don't want none
of that. I think it's the best possible approach that
you could take to this exact type of thing, because
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I think that in general, they don't deserve to be
taken seriously. I think that not being taken seriously pisses
them off almost more than anything making fun of them
all that type of stuff. They're just they're very thin skinned,
and it's like they want you to just like that
fact they want the molotods and all that stuff, because
they know exactly how they respond to that, and they're
begging you to give them a chance to do.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Really think you do really well is you take a
very serious thing and you make fun of it, but
you don't lose the fact that it's serious. Like when
you talk you did one on Chicago, and then you
know ice repelling from helicopters, and how excited they must
be deck like real military guys.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I just did a raid on a Chicago apartment building
where they repelled from helicopters in the middle of the
night and terrorized a bunch of US citizens, many of
whom were children, by dragging them into the streets and
ransacking their homes. And you just know they felt so
cool doing it too, especially because that helicopter part. Like
in their minds, these guys are all like starring in
an early ninety Stephens Sagall movie, but in reality they're
(26:14):
starring in a twenty twenty Stephen Sagall movie, like you know,
the ones where he's fat and sucks and everything's dumb
about it all, Like.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
This is insanity, and they know that they don't care.
You know, in fact, it's all part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They're just gonna keep escalating and instigating and pushing Americans
further and further, and when we finally pushed back, Trump's
just gonna declare insurrection the way Michael Scott declared bankruptcy
and BAM martial law and the death of democracy. Well,
we cannot give them what they want here, right, Like
we have to keep protesting all this shit, sure, but
without falling into their trap and becoming violent, except for
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throwing sandwiches at them.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
That's Shit's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It is a serious thing, a potentially dangerous thing, but
it is also worth making fun of.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
They really do worry about being made fun of, right,
This is why they're trying to get rid of the
Late Night comics Jimmy Kimmel. This is why they're up
there on the list, along with creating fake enemies like
soorros or whatever. Antifa is right is if who could
be pro Nazi right other than the guy in the
Congressman's office with the Nazi flag embedded into the American.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But can there be? And I'd love to see it
if it is? Can there be.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Deeply conservative comedians that are successful? The whole point is
to go against authority, to laugh at it. How is
punching down funny? Right?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean, well, how does that work?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
And could there be a because I see they tried
to do a conservative Jimmy Kimmel and it like flop.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
My cousin Steven Crowder were not actually related, but like him,
he calls himself a comedian, but like they all had
the same idea of like they think that just like
saying racist stereotypes or whatever and then laughing afterwards is
like is being funny or is joking? And that's not how,
that's not how any of that act that's not actually funny.
They do that with racism or homophobia or whatever, and
(27:56):
then they get all mad when you tell them that's stupid.
Or not cool or what not. But look, you said,
could there be I think and I hope that this
is about to change and shift back. But for at
least the past couple of years, the biggest comedians on
earth have been conservative and right wing guys. And that's
something that like I never ever antic. I've been like
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a comedy nerd my whole life before I ever started
doing comedy, which is fifteen years ago, and the whole
time I've been doing it. And that's one thing I
never ever anticipated, because like you said, I always had
the same perspective on it. It was like comedy or
even being a good comedian is inherently progressive or at
the very least, it's like skeptical and you question authority
and that type of thing. So anybody that's gonna fall
(28:41):
in lockstep with an authoritarian regime or be fascist boot
liquors or whatever, it's it's just it's antithetical to everything
that comedy or satire supposed to represent. That's what I
always thought. But what happened. This isn't news. Everybody saw
this unfold. Basically the left has the left got more
and more emboldened to like scold people, especially about don't
(29:02):
say that word, don't make those jokes, don't do this,
don't do that or whatever. And comedians in particular, especially
a lot of big ones, were like, you're not gonna
tell me what I can't what I can and can't
joke about. And they got very defensive about it's the
type of thing that never and when I said that,
you know, I'm talking about fact very famously, Dave Chappelle
with his like trans jokes or whatever, it like.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Everybody didn't want to go to.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And when they got pushed back against that, when people
were like, yeah, you shouldn't do those jokes because they're bad,
and a lot of these comedians are like, fuck you,
and then they like and then that pushed them further
in the other direction, and that sort of led to
a lot of them falling in league with the current
iteration of the American right just because they were aligned
against that type of mentality, and that led to them
like being ancillary to a lot of much more dangerous
(29:46):
shit but also hugely important part of it that you
can'tnot say. When they did this, they also found that
it was incredibly lucrative, like the like right wing grift
or whatever. They made a lot of them found that
it was very make a lot of money from doing that,
and so then they became there were comics who started
trying to get canceled so that they could become part
(30:08):
of that whole world because they saw how successful that
it could make you be. And there's been some backpedaling
from guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Schultzen dudes like
that about Trump particularly. There's been things like Mark Maron
taking a lot of these guys to task about and
he had a bit from especially went viral where he said,
if Hitler was alive today, he'd do Theo Bond's podcast right,
(30:29):
And that apparently upset Theo and Rogan a lot of them,
but also got made a lot of headlines and a
lot of people. There's I don't know if you've heard
of this thing called the Elephant Graveyard. If y'all heard
of that YouTube channel, you should look it up if
you're at all interested in this. It's this guy who
makes these video essays about this whole world basically and
taking it to task and calling it out. And there's
a weird kind of comedy civil war happening right now
(30:51):
or brewing about this whole kind of thing, and you said,
how it's punching down like that funny That was Maren's
whole thing. When he went on his recent tirade against it,
it was like, look, you won, like you won, Like
these people are disenfranchised, immigrants to bring drug out in
the streets, trans people are afraid to exist, all this stuff.
You won. When are you going to stop with the jokes? Quick? Right? Yeah?
(31:12):
It's like the Also, he's made this point. A bunch
of other people may this point, but it's true. It
very quickly becomes hack because they're all again. Once it
became evident to a lot of up and coming comedians
and stuff that this is how you get to the
arena level, to get to whatever, they all started making
the same jokes about the same things. They all started
bitching about wokeness and talking about trans people, and when
(31:33):
everybody's doing the same thing again, it becomes hack and
pandery and it's bad. But they tried to like somehow
that was edgy or whatever, and I guess it was edgy,
but not in a good way. And it's just been
it's been a weird time.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
How do you deal with Heckler's when you've got, you
must get heckled. Mega folks must to commit either target
you or.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
As far as maga people soaked my whole comedy career.
So far, I seem to have existed at what I
call a like internet comment level of hatred, which means
like they don't hate me enough yet to leave their
house and buy a ticket and come stand in line
and call me a queer or whatever. Yeah, right. I
(32:27):
feel like Donald Trump has been the butt of jokes
since before he even got into politics, like for years,
and some of it I don't know, Maybe he just
doesn't see all of it. Maybe it's like only the
stuff that he sees or is confronted with he just
can't move past and it drives him insane. And then
other stuff people shield from him and never finds out
about because I don't get how he picks and chees
(32:48):
what to be incensed by. Because it's a NonStop deluge
of people making fun of his stupid ass. I'll take
every day.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You know you mentioned We've mentioned all a number of times,
us in them, right, which I only half reject. I
think there is a them because they have this messianic figure.
It's a cult. There's they have things you have to
believe in. Right, You have to believe that twenty twenty
was You have to believe to be in the cult
that twenty twenty was ripped. You don't have to know how,
(33:18):
you just know it was. And January sixth was a
day of love and right. But the US part I
have no idea what you think of Joe Biden. I
didn't think of a whole lot of them. I think
he was a mediocre if that president, And I don't
like AOC doesn't speak for me, and so on the
one side, I think there's a.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
The not Mega. It's pretty amorphous.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
There's no other despite the fact that it's on the
other side, the Mega side is they all deserve to
die because of Charlie Kirk. They want who the fuck
is they? I don't know, but there is a day
from the progressive side. Right, if you're if you're wearing
a Trump T shirt, you're wearing a MEGA hat and
you buy into the religion, it's you know, there's a
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there are things, and people don't want to leave.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, maybe Joe Biden one fair and spare because now
you're out there's an in and out, there's contours around them.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, the left is a very the left in general,
or just like you said, not MAGA, especially if you
frame it that way, is a very varied, diverse coalition
or like you said, a morphoist grouping of people. It's
part of the problem that they have in getting anything
done ever or pushing back on stuff, is they can't
agree on pretty much anything, and you're so many different factions.
But that's I feel like that's inherent to being the
(34:33):
official side of different types of people or different belief
systems or whatever, because really the other side is just
it's not it's pretty narrowly defined. They have like their
tokens and stuff. But there's like really a pretty clearly
defined type of person that it's okay to be in
in MAGA world, and that's like a straight Christian, capitalist
conservative pretty much. So the videos we've been talking about,
(34:55):
I've been I called those videos the liberal redneck videos
or whatever, but actually recently, and I make any announcement
about it or whatever, but I stopped. I took that out.
I took that out on my social media bios, and
I took it out of the title of the videos
and stuff. And I just call them like trade crowded
rants or just have it under my name now or whatever.
And I was telling this. I was on this other
political podcast with a lefty buddy mine in California, and
(35:16):
I told him I changed it. He was like, oh, yeah,
you just weren't comfortable being associated with rednecks anymore. And
I was like what, No. I was like, it's because
of liberal is the reason that I stopped using it.
I was like he was, and he was like what.
I was like, yeah, Cause when I first started doing
that in twenty sixteen, especially being from the South, liberal
just meant like liberal democrat, not Republican. All those things
(35:38):
were like basically synonymous. But I feel like now with
the neoliberals and the establishment Democrats and all that, it's
become more clearly defined when it's associated with people like
the very corporate Democrats like Chuck Schumer and those guys.
And I was just like, that ain't my bag anymore.
But to go back to what we were talking about,
so it is amorphis and we are divided on the
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whole left and all that in opposition to them, and
like you said, there is them from our perspective. But
I think that kind of makes it true in both directions,
because it's like with the philosophies of viewpoints and goals
that they have to me the way everyone should look
at it, it is us in them because it's like
you said, maga and not maga, right, that is the
us in them, like or that's the way people are
(36:21):
going to have to start looking at it. I think
it's like you're either on board for a totalitarian fascist
dictatorship essentially here authoritarian regime and late stage capitalism and
all that. You're either like down with that, and if
you're not, then you're on our team, or you should.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Be Lennin taught way back when it's just as fascist
and a small vanguard party with a strong leadership and
goals is has more strength and more ability to bring
about change and to take power than the ninety percent.
The Bolsheviks were small minority even within the socialist movement Russia.
(36:58):
But because they were they had a direction, they had
a plan, they had contours, they had.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
They were to kill their opponents.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
There were, yeah, there were more vicious and yeah h
and that that made them more I don't know what
were the Bullsheviks five percent, three percent of even.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I want to ask one comedian question, and it has
to do with the whole comedian Saudi Arabia Reod thing.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, what's your take on on that?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I almost got into that earlier when I was talking
about the right word shift in comedy lately, and but
I said, but lately, I feel like maybe the pendulum
swinging back, and I was like Mark Marin doing this whatever.
But and I almost got into Riodd because I think
that's part of a part of that hopeful shift as well.
But the Reodd Festival specifically, First things first, No, I
was not asked. I don't think they would have asked.
(37:45):
That makes it very easy for all for me to
say all of what follows, because I didn't have a
gigantic check put in front of me that I had
to walk away from. So I'm acknowledging that, Yeah, I
found it. I didn't. I don't feel the same about
literally every comedian that did it. I don't think that
they're all in the same position. There's plenty of went
over there that Again, the check that they got from
that is like bigger by orders of magnitude than anything
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they've ever gotten before. They're not household names they don't
have more money than they could ever spend. Their future
is not at all necessarily secured, and it's and then
also there's some of them that it's like there's no
hypocrisy involved. It's like, I don't know the guy. I
think he's funny, he's one of the biggest stars on earth.
Seems like a nice dude. But like, I don't think
anyone was all that surprise that Kevin Hart took the
money to go, do you know what I mean? He's
(38:27):
a He's on a Draft Kings commercial every other commercial
break every day. Like he you pull out the check book,
Kevin Hart's gonna show up, and everybody knows that about him.
So it's so that made it better for him with
this because it's like people aren't surprised, and I don't
think he would deny any of that. He's I'm in
this for the money or whatever. But some of them
it was, you know, it was like, dude, what are
you doing? You know? And like, I mean, the one
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that gets talked about the most, of course, and I
agree with it. I'm a huge fan myself, and I
have met this guy a couple of times. Love him.
But like Bill Burr's whole recent thing that he's been on,
which has been like very anti capitalist, very anti billionaire.
This shit's going to be the ruin of us all.
He's been a voice of reason in a lot of ways,
and so to be that guy I do all that
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and have people rally around him for that, and then
go over there and shuck and jive for the Saudi Royals,
the people who chop journalists heads off and all that
stuff and kill women with rocks for talking at the
wrong time or having a collar bone show and or
whatever they do over it. But like, it's just it
just feels pretty hard to justify to me. But it
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would be one thing if they went and did it
and then came back and we're just like, look, man,
will you let me tell you if someone offered you
the amount of money I got offered for one show,
I'd like to see you say no to it. If
they came back and said that, I'd be like, yeah,
you're right, I don't I'm not in that position. I
don't know, But that's not what most of them have
been doing. They've been getting self righteous about it and
(39:52):
acting like no, really, this was like a humanitarian sort
of ambassador ship that we were doing over there. This
is like cultural outreach. Well see, we were going over
there to try to help the waves of progress move
forward throughout this country because they're trying to do better
and we wanted to assist them in that. That just
to me makes it kind of even worse because it's like, no, no,
(40:14):
you weren't. No, it isn't that's not And also, by
the way, I probably should have started with this, but
I didn't. Many times over the years, I've had fans
of mine who are very you know, people on the
left for sure. Periodically, whenever there's some new trans bill
or whenever there's some voting restriction shit going on in
North Carolina or Georgia or whatever, and I've got shows
coming up in Charlotte or Atlanta or whatever, I will
(40:35):
have fans of mine who live in California or Portland
or whatever say to me like, are you still going
to do that show? Are you really going to go
to North Carolina right now? Like are you not boycotting
North Carolina? Bruce Springsteen is boycotting North Carolina. It's okay,
Well I'm not Bruce Springstein. I don't think I have
the same cultural impact that the Boss does. I'm probably
(40:56):
not going to make as many headlines that he did
by doing that. But also no, I'm not going to
do that because when I go there, the people that
come to the show are going to be people who
also hate that trans bathroom bill and who want to
go to a comedy show. Why should I punish them
for the bullshit that their government does and their state.
It's not their fault. No, of course I'm not going
to do that. And that exact same logic would apply
(41:18):
to just doing a regular tour date in Saudi Arabia.
If you just set up a tour date at a
venue there and said, people are fans of mine, buy
tickets and come see me, then I would have zero
problem with it. It would be the exact same thing
as me doing that show in North Carolina during the
trans bathroom stuff. But that isn't what happened here. This
literally was like an entertainment washing campaign funded by the
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regime itself to get people to stop associating them with
fucking beheadings and lack prespech and all that shit. And
that makes it different. This would be more like me again,
and I'd never be asked but me going to do
like a private sing at mar A Lago celebrating the
life of Jeffrey Epstein or whatever, you know what I mean,
Like if I was the entertainment for that and I
agreed to do it and then and it'd be and
(42:02):
then tried to justify that that's more like what this
was put in. Those dudes again, who I think are awesome,
and like I said, it's not all created equals. Some
of them I'm like less disappointed in, and even the
ones I am more disappointed in, they don't give a fuck,
and I wouldn't either if I was them, probably, But
they've got plenty of black backlash for it, and they're
clearly surprised by that. But I'm sure it's like anything,
it'll dissipate everything. The next thing, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
And we will look for the next thing to get
your opinion on it and get your take on it.
So again, thanks so.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Much, thanks for having me back on. It was fun.
It's always a pleasure. I'll tell everybody. Go to Trey
Crowder dot com to check out tour dates if you
want to come save me. And I'm just Trey Crowder
t R A. E. Crowder on any your preferred social
media platform.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
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Yeah, why do you bring up that coconut Brazier?
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Today's guest is Trey Crowder. He's the liberal redneck.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
He's a comedian with a big following on YouTube and
social media and the author of several books. He's from
rural Tennessee and you can see the dates for his
nationwide comedy tour on his website.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So welcome, Trey.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
So Trey, and we're going to put you into the
mindset of the CIA, right, and I want you to
take us through how this conspiracy work. I want you
to sneak into Congress. I want you to go into
a congressional office, and I want you to take a
plan with a swastika on American Click and I want
you to pin it behind a professional staffers billboard and
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have him not know because they're claiming this.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Is a conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So looking at it from your point of view, how
do you do this and who benefits? Who is who's
really behind the swastika in Congress.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I would think that the first part, the hall
part of that, which is just like getting a Nazi
American flag onto a congressman's court board in his office,
probably wouldn't be that hard from actual training ceioperative, I
would think, you know, you just dress up like an intern,
mander in there. Whenever he's like off trying to make
(01:44):
bedroom eyse of some other congressman's intern in the hall
or whatever. His guy's back turn. You just pin up
to the court board and go about your married way.
But the yeah, the more interesting part is like why
would you do that, especially to that guy in particular.
You know, we're talking about a leftist deep state here,
which is of course the reality is everyone knows it.
Marks this communist deep state that we have operating in
(02:07):
this country. I guess it would be to somehow show
further division and make people more, to further villify and
demonize these good hearted, red blooded Christian Americans that are
serving in Congress as conservatives like that guy whose name
already can't remember and don't think I knew before it happened.
(02:28):
Is he Ohio guy?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah? The congressman is an Ohio guy.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Right, I don't know why you target that guy. You'd
think you'd go for somebody with a little more of
a little more presence.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
They're implying that this is a conspiracy theory, right that
it Yeah, somehow it's the deep leftist state is coming
in and done this for whatever reason. How does this
come across or doesn't this come across? And you know
where you grow up.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think, as much as I hate to say this,
I mean I think they probably just buy that whatever
that some at the very least, that somebody is just
pranking this guy, or that he didn't actually do. It's
essentially just become a matter of like whatever they say,
you just roll with that. So when they say, like, oh,
I didn't put up a knight, they'd be crazy. Why
would I put up a Nazi flag of my on off, which,
by the way, that is crazy, But like he just says,
(03:16):
it'd be crazy. I wouldn't do that. Someone else must
have done that. And I think most people in like
my hometown that love Maga shit or whatever just go, yeah, right,
that's true. Someone else must have done that.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Because it's not like young Republicans would be putting like
I love Hitler or anything on chatboards or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's what I was actually about to say, because I
think it's more of a it's easily just as likely,
which is this is what always happens anytime there's some
unknown agent provocateur operating with any of this stuff in
people's minds, or even just like you don't know the
motivations of a person and they automatically just jump to
leftist terrorist or leftist saboteur or whatever. But I think
(03:54):
it's like it wouldn't surprise me at all if that.
I'm not even trying to give that congressman the benefit
of the doubt. But the idea that some intern or
somebody has on his staff is like some twenty something
edge lord, grouper, nick fuintest fan or whatever that type
of guy who like who thinks he'd be funny to
put that on the courtboard in the congressman's office. But
(04:15):
in a I'm spreading the word type of way, or
like a I'm getting our like tagging, like graffiti artists
like tag things like tag logos and stuff around town.
Is almost like a sort of like weird street pr campaign.
It's like that, but for internet basement dwelling Nazis or whatever.
Just because he thinks it's funny, he just takes a
picture of it and post it with the caption, Lol
(04:37):
you are gay on their roar group matt and message
board or whatever. Do you know what I'm saying? It
could also be that, and that wouldn't surprise me either,
So who's to say what I'm pretty sure it isn't is? Yeah,
the far left CIA apparatus for GOTT, I guess, of course. Yeah.
(04:59):
Always you guys, I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Even know this when you guys are like so far
ahead of me in terms of the keeping up with
these things. I've been very focused though, on the RFK
talking about how circumcision leads to autism. That's where I've been,
That's where I've been spending my time.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I can't even keep up with all of his lunacy
because the last thing I saw, actually I don't think
I had seen the circumcision when I had seen the
last thing I saw from him was talking about He
said that teenage boys have fifty percent lower sperm count
than sixty five year old men. Do girls hit puberty
six years younger than normal, And then he ended it
with parents aren't having children anymore, which is like, I mean,
(05:38):
I know what he means, but that's a funny way
to put that, because it's like, right, well, then you know,
then they're not paid, they're not having children, and they're
not parents, and if they are parents, then they are
still having children. So it's just she choose your words better.
But anyway, yeah, he's just always I saw someone say
about him. If that guy didn't have that job and
wasn't from like a prominent family, it was just like
standing on some random street corner saying, most of that shit,
(06:00):
you'd give me a dollar carry away from him. Yeah, right,
give him a dollar, and then gets as far away
from him as quickly as pod.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I saw some polling today though that it's easy to
laugh at and we know he's a fool. But they
asked after he said that titl and all causes whatever,
they pulled people in a much larger group of people said, oh, yes,
tailand all causes. I'm gonna stay away from Tyland, I'll
cause it. People want someone to look up to to
tell him things, and they listen. And there's people who
(06:26):
were like completely bought in, of course, But then there's
there is a group of people who think that you
know he's in the job. You must know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That last group of people you brought up has always
been so hard for me to wrap my head around,
like the one group we've already mentioned twice, the ones
that are for the true believers, the ones that are
fully bought in, Like, I mean, that's crazy to me too,
but I just I get it in terms of thinking
about it as like cultish devotion literally cultish devotion, or
even just having blinders on in a like favorite sports
(06:56):
team sort of mentality or whatever. But it's just whatever
what we do and say is right. Because we do
and say it, then it doesn't. Nothing else matters. But
the idea of like regular people who aren't bought in
either way and just live their lives. But that would
see some of those statements and be like, this is
an authority figure and we should all trust authority figures,
(07:19):
including this, Like it's wild to me that those people
have survived in the wild and the current society that
we all currently live in, Like I totally I feel
like it used to be that way for most people
for a very long time. But it just you would
think that that's got meaning, Like you know, like everybody
brings up all the time in the media, like everyone
used to just inherently trust, like Walter Cronkite or whatever,
(07:39):
and that is the way that it should have been.
But like I'm just saying, I don't know how you
lived through the past ten plus years without realizing that
those days are over, unfortunately. And I feel like when
quanon was first becoming a thing, the entree into it
was this notion that kids are in danger, like children
are bringing sex, trafficked and fucking adducted and murdered and
(08:02):
all this stuff and no one's doing anything about it.
I get as a parent, I understand hearing that and
being like, oh, no, that sounds bad. Someone should do
something about that, and like looking further into it, like
I get that very first step. What I don't get
is that very shortly after that you turn the next
(08:24):
page and it's like, yeah, shadowy global cabal of liberal
elite vampires spearheaded by Bill Gates and Tom Hanks are
harvesting blood from infants to get the adrena chrome out
of it or whatever, with the help of the deep State.
And whenever you get to that page of it, I
don't get out. You're like, what the f okay? Never mind?
That's clearly inside because I from my perspective, there was
(08:47):
no like you did that. There was no slow rolling
of it that I'm aware of. Like where they go.
They start with a person, you know, it starts with like,
kids are in danger. Don't you care about kids? Of
course I do? And then they like very gradually walk
you through this progressively crazier development or explanation of what's
going on. It Never it didn't seem that way to me.
(09:09):
It seemed like it was like, oh, kids are in danger,
don't you care about that? Yeah? I do? What's going on?
And then straight to the global cabal and all that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Kids are in danger.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That would be something that you think you could rarely around,
like young girls are in danger, right, but now today
when the shoes on the other foot, kids are in danger.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The Epstein files, Yeah, we've got to do something. You
got to do something.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, And then all of a sudden, some really senior
people in the manga movement are like, yeah, nothing to
see here, move on. The great leader has spoken, right,
and no he didn't do the raunchy birthday card with
the pubic hair, right, Like, well, yeah, okay, maybe so
some of this verges on I'm really on principles, right.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It was like in or lack of or the absence thereof, Oh.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
The absence there are. But yeah, no, so young girls
are in danger. We got to do something about it.
In theory, okay, but then when it's announced that Trump
is in the files and who else is in the files?
All his friends and I don't care, Democrat, Republican, whatever,
but it's yeah, no, we're not gonna we're not going
to pursue that anymore. The head of the FBI was
the one singing this right, and the deputy dam Gonngino.
(10:14):
They made a career out of this. Again, if you
go back to the Nazi times, it's fasciled. But it's
like the Bolsheviks are the big problem. They're evil, and
then there's the hit with Styalin.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Pick.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, we can get along with them, they're fine, and
then they're not again. Yeah, the control of what people's
principles are is something that I find difficult to understand.
I mean, either you believe something or you don't write in.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
One hundred percent. And that example in particular, very briefly,
I did get the impression that when that first happened,
and by that when BONDI and then like first announced
nothing to see here, there is no real Epstein list
and nothing else is going to happen, so everybody just
forget about it. There was like definitely at least some
backlash from like people the right to mag of people
(11:01):
think little bit qu up like for and when that
first happened, I was like, I was still. Don't get
me wrong, I was skeptical the whole time. I thought
that this might what appears to have happened, that that
it would eventually happen. But still at the very beginning,
I was like, okay, so have we did we finally
find it? Like it there is still a line like
(11:22):
a line in the sand that can be crossing them,
and this is it? This is actually it? Because that
would be nice if we finally found it. But yeah,
it I think that a lot of them, I don't know,
that was just it was too much to ask for
them to just immediately pretend like they didn't, to go
from being like this is the most important thing ever
in the history of this country to like nothing to
see here was too much to ask it for even
(11:43):
for them, but not all of them. Some of them
like literally flipped on a dime, no problem whatsoever. But
for a lot of them that was too much to ask.
But just stretch it out, just just keep going.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's too hard to leave the team.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, you don't leave the team, and you get enough
other things to get mad about. You let time pass
and you can just sort of without ever openly betraying
your own principles in that matter or publicly doing it,
you can just eventually ignore it and go back to
the being incensed about trans people and immigrants and all
that shit or whatever, and just not talk about it anymore.
(12:16):
And that seems to be what they've done.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, Tray, you seem to have a real understanding and
work with from Tennessee and the South. So can you
talk to me a little bit about Southern culture, the
sort of military football, tough guy people are heroes. I mean,
it seems to me like Ice is like a perfect
metaphor for what Southern men want if they get to
dress up like warriors and beat up on weak people,
Like what is it about the South that, like as
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early as the fifties and sixties started to switch over
to be very conservative and then eventually probably even more
like my ish.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
When you're talking about that particular aspect and hypermasculinity and
getting to do rob Ross shit and be a badass
and all that, I think it was deaf. A lot
of that was always there, at least in my experience,
you know. I mean I was a kid in the
nineties and everything, and it was still that was still
especially like football, being a badass, all that was always
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part of it. A lot of guys joined the military.
A lot of that was also like predatory recruitment practices
focused on like poverty stricken places. You didn't have a
lot of options, and plus you get a sweet ass
charger out of the deal, so it was very effective.
I had a lot of friends that did that. But
at the same time, though, and I don't know where
ice fits into this, because they're mostly only doing it
(13:33):
to brown people, so that's maybe different. But like I've
talked a lot about, and it's true, and I have examples.
I can point to to prove it. But even when
I was a kid in the nineties, like Cops, so
not just cops, but also just authority figures, the government.
All of that was not shit that these people liked
or cheered on or were on board with. So like
(13:54):
the whole NASCAR, which is hugely popular amongst rednecks, was
literally like founded by like moonshiners running from the cops
and shit and smoking the bandit the dukes of hazard,
like just running from the law as a time honored
redneck tradition. There's like every other episode of Cops has
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got redneck shit going on in it. They're like natural enemies,
or at least they were, but also, like I said,
just the government and the fuck and it also like
rich people, the bank man I can come and taking
your property, or like the company men, and like coal
miners and the union fights and that type of shit
and all this stuff that used to matter. And even
(14:36):
I'm a big Tennessee Vaults fan. And then we do
Rocky Top is the state song of Tennessee, and they
sing it at the football games. And then there's a
line in that song sounds innocuous or whatever, but says
once two strangers climbed old Rocky Top looking for a moonshine.
Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top and reckon
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they never will. Fun Still strangers climb no Rocky Top
looking for a moonshine.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top, Rocky Nay,
never will.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Rocky you know, to me.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Rocket up.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Those are about like federal agents going up there and
looking to shut people's like moonshine still found and getting us.
There's a rebel culture against right, but now there anymore,
no that, And that's I'm saying. Even when I was
a kid in the nineties, all that was there, that's
fucked the man kind of mentality type we're on our
own type of thing. And now they're all like boot lickers,
(15:45):
like straight up boot lickers, and it's weird.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
The military was always different. They always like they back then.
They definitely supported the troops, especially I was fifteen when
nine to eleven happened, especially after nine to eleven, of course,
but that didn't extend to like I said, any type
of like cops or like Fed cops or Feds or
any of that. No, definitely not. And now they'll I
(16:11):
mean Obviously the FED thing is weird because you whatever,
because now the deep state is lefty shit or however
any of that works. I don't know. It's all confusing,
but yes, there used to be rebellious and have ish
not cowtow to authority at all, and that type of thing,
and now they're all lining up to lick the boots
and stuff and they put like thin blue line punisher
stickers on the back of their jacked up trucks and shit.
(16:32):
And it's weird to me. I've thought it was again.
I've talked about this a ton over, I've had stand
up bits about it, I've made videos about it. I
find it to be very odd, and I don't really
have an explanation for it outside of just that side
getting framed in opposition to the side of black and
brown people and queer people and all that type of stuff,
(16:55):
which is like they were more put off by all
that when they or the other thing. But outside of that,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So related to that, maybe John can jump into a
CIA officers.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We dealt a lot with Russians, and we used to
know him as the Soviets, and they had the red
flag with a hammer and sickle, and then the Sovietan's
over and they brought back a lot of the Tsarist iconography.
The Tsarist eagles big and the old Tsaris flag has
come big.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And I remember saying to one of them is, I
don't get it.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
You've got all this Tsarist shit, but you've also still
got lots of like Soviet iconography. You still got hammers
and sickles and all that and there. And I'm like,
I was like, the Bolsheviks killed the whole Tsaris family
and murdered that whole class, and yet you're celebrating both
of them at the same time. I don't get it.
And then he looked at me and said, you guys,
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you fly you fly the Dixie flag.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Right. It's like it was like, so he's like, what's
the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And I'm like, I don't know, you know, but the
thing is what the example he used about us like
that also is stupid, so like that it still means there,
But that's to me, that sounds like like when people
a version of whenever you're like, I think fast food
workers should be paid more generally, and then somebody will
(18:13):
be like, really, you think somebody flipping burgers should be
paid this much. When I'm an EMT and I make
three dollars less than that, that's bullshit. And it's like, yeah, no,
I think that you both should be paid more. Like
you also are being screwed up. You should be paid
more too. I think I don't know why you automatically assume.
I think that I want you to lose in this scenario. Yeah. No,
(18:33):
it's also stupid when people fly the Confederate flag of
the American flag all Like, I agree with you about that.
I've had stand up bits about that too, about the
ironic nature of that whole thing, because yeah, that makes
no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Let me ask you a little bit about how you
come up with stuff, because for people who haven't listened
to Trey, I would encourage you to find them on
social media Instagram, go to his shows, go to his website.
But you come up with these really clever like quips
and it looks like you're riffing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So now, I like, I'll tell. So what I'll do
is I'll tell I'll just I just sit here and
think about one of the things that I think are
absurd or stupid about this or whatever, and I'll make
little bullet points and a notepad or what not, whatnot,
and then I'll just start actually riffing on it, but
just to myself, but out loud, sitting right here in
this office usually, and just do that a few times
until it's sort of where I think, Okay, that's about
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that's pretty much it, and then I just go out
to the jeep and just type it.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I liked when you were talking about Haig Seth when
he called in all the generals and admirals. You called
him General Pettin himself on the back, talking about the
rules of engagement are more like rules of gay shit.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I want you to draft am Inmo of military leadership.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Tell them they all got to come here for a
meeting on the thirtieth, Yes, sir, And what should I
say is the purpose of this unprecedented and clearly vitally
important meeting so I could talk mad shit and get
everybody hype as fuck, bro, that's what.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Don't tell him that though.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I want it to be a surprise. Yeah, I'm gonna
go set deaf jam on these bitches that don't say
I said that sounded super black. I don't know why
I said. It's gonna be sweet as Fuckut put that
in the memo, say attendance is mandatory, but it will
be sweet as fuck though signed. Heg's dog right.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
He was very into it. You know.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
He had the American flag up there behind him, and
I guess so General patting himself on the back must
have hit a gas mask bong filled with his own
farts before he got started, because he was feeling himself.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Boy, he get up there like, all right, first things first,
kick ass and rip shit. That's what we do. And
starting today we're going old school, right. I don't want
to hear any more of this woe cast oom. Did
you need a convention ooms to view you? O casual?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
With these bullshit? I got rules of engagement more like
rules of engay shit, war crimes.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Give me more crimes, That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
American motherfuckers lighting shit up since seventeen seventy six, bitch. Also,
no more fatties, no sir. Starting today, we're all gonna
be ripped as hell. We're gonna train him in May
and we're painting flames and all the tanks is gonna
be fucking sick. We're gonna have tight ass haircuts, perfectly
shaved jaw lines, and no, that's not because I can't
grow a good beard.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
I don't want it reported that that last thing is
because I can't grow a good beard.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I liked that one because that one was a little
bit different for me, because it was mostly most of
that video was me pretending to be in character as
Pete heg Seth and just doing this like over the top,
super frat browie address to the military address or whatever,
and so like he's put himself in front of a
gigantic American flag, the first thing I think most people
think of, because I grew up in my dad's video
(21:33):
store as a kid, so I was a big movie
guy and stuff. I don't think of Paton immediately. And
then from there he literally talked about rules of engagement
in real life. He said, so, we're not gonna be
like bound by rules of it, and he set it
to kind of smart me, well, like we're not gonna
be bound by these rules of engagement or whatever. And
so then and so he really did say that his
actual address that he gave I basically in my head,
(21:54):
I was like, and I don't even remember right now,
I'd have to go back and look at it. What
the lit But it was like a list of things
that he covered or topics he went into that I
thought were particularly wild or crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I was wondering, if you do this for like Portland,
so instead of showing up with slingshots and you know,
and molotov cocktails, they're showing up in dinosaur costumes and
floud costumes. And what's your take on pushing back on
authoritarians but using absurdity almost dadaism, if you will.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
As of right now, unless something else happens, I think
the next video I do is probably going to be
about this because I've been thinking, because I've just been
loving all the Portland stuff or whatever it is, I
feel like Trump's off launching the fascist takeover whatever in
Portland particularly, is probably gonna end up being a mistake,
I hope, because of this exact thing, because like I think,
(22:44):
I think that they're handling it perfectly because uske How
has it come across the broader audience nowadays? Who the
hell knows? But I feel like the main narrative that
Trump and them uses that these are like war torn hellscapes,
these cities that are torn apart by liberal terrorists and
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criminals run them up because the Blue leaders don't have
the balls necessary to keep them in control, and someone's
got to go in there and clean these streets up, right,
And like Patpall's hear that on fat Fox News and
they're like, Ah, someone doesn't to go in there and
clean these streets up. So Fox News shows up or
whoever Newsmax or any of them, trying to get footage
of this that they can use to further fearmonger with.
(23:27):
And it's like a guy in a frog suit and
an inflatable t rex fucking playing hopscotch or whatever in
front of these in front of these like stormtrooper guys.
I feel like, no matter how brainwashed by any of
this propaganda, you are like, there's no way to spend
that as like these these guys' lives are endangered from
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these anthropomorphic cartoon characters. There's no way. It's just not scary.
I feel like anyone, I don't care how deep in
all that you are, you see that footage and you
go like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like it
that much of a war zone. Feels more like who
framed Roger Rabbit to me than so, yeah, I'm all
for it. Actually had up on my last special. There's
(24:10):
a bit but even before any of this ever happened,
just about Portland in general, and about how they have
this very strange dynamic at play in their heads when
it comes to places like Portland or just the far left,
where it's like they boat On the one hand, they
think Portland is nothing but just a bunch of efaciated
baristas with a handlebar mustache or whatever, you know what
I mean. But on the other hand, they're like Antifa
(24:32):
super commandos, you know what I mean. And it's both
at the same time, and it's it's just inherently ridiculous.
And I said, and I said back then, I was like,
if you think about it, you should be afraid of
those people, really, even if that is what they are,
because I was like, imagine you're in the middle of
some full fledged riot or whatever, and then out of
the smoke bomb haze comes when them comes some motherfucker
(24:54):
dress up like a haberdasher riding one of those big
front wheel bicycles or whatever, and you're gonna try to
make fun of that guy. That's how you get choked
out with a pocket watch chain. That's what I said.
And I was like, whimsical anarchy. You don't want none
of that. I think it's the best possible approach that
you could take to this exact type of thing, because
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I think that in general, they don't deserve to be
taken seriously. I think that not being taken seriously pisses
them off almost more than anything making fun of them
all that type of stuff. They're just they're very thin skinned,
and it's like they want you to just like that
fact they want the molotods and all that stuff, because
they know exactly how they respond to that, and they're
begging you to give them a chance to do.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Really think you do really well is you take a
very serious thing and you make fun of it, but
you don't lose the fact that it's serious. Like when
you talk you did one on Chicago, and then you
know ice repelling from helicopters, and how excited they must
be deck like real military guys.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I just did a raid on a Chicago apartment building
where they repelled from helicopters in the middle of the
night and terrorized a bunch of US citizens, many of
whom were children, by dragging them into the streets and
ransacking their homes. And you just know they felt so
cool doing it too, especially because that helicopter part. Like
in their minds, these guys are all like starring in
an early ninety Stephens Sagall movie, but in reality they're
(26:14):
starring in a twenty twenty Stephen Sagall movie, like you know,
the ones where he's fat and sucks and everything's dumb
about it all, Like.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
This is insanity, and they know that they don't care.
You know, in fact, it's all part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They're just gonna keep escalating and instigating and pushing Americans
further and further, and when we finally pushed back, Trump's
just gonna declare insurrection the way Michael Scott declared bankruptcy
and BAM martial law and the death of democracy. Well,
we cannot give them what they want here, right, Like
we have to keep protesting all this shit, sure, but
without falling into their trap and becoming violent, except for
(26:44):
throwing sandwiches at them.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
That's Shit's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It is a serious thing, a potentially dangerous thing, but
it is also worth making fun of.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
They really do worry about being made fun of, right,
This is why they're trying to get rid of the
Late Night comics Jimmy Kimmel. This is why they're up
there on the list, along with creating fake enemies like
soorros or whatever. Antifa is right is if who could
be pro Nazi right other than the guy in the
Congressman's office with the Nazi flag embedded into the American.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But can there be? And I'd love to see it
if it is? Can there be.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Deeply conservative comedians that are successful? The whole point is
to go against authority, to laugh at it. How is
punching down funny? Right?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean, well, how does that work?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
And could there be a because I see they tried
to do a conservative Jimmy Kimmel and it like flop.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
My cousin Steven Crowder were not actually related, but like him,
he calls himself a comedian, but like they all had
the same idea of like they think that just like
saying racist stereotypes or whatever and then laughing afterwards is
like is being funny or is joking? And that's not how,
that's not how any of that act that's not actually funny.
They do that with racism or homophobia or whatever, and
(27:56):
then they get all mad when you tell them that's stupid.
Or not cool or what not. But look, you said,
could there be I think and I hope that this
is about to change and shift back. But for at
least the past couple of years, the biggest comedians on
earth have been conservative and right wing guys. And that's
something that like I never ever antic. I've been like
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a comedy nerd my whole life before I ever started
doing comedy, which is fifteen years ago, and the whole
time I've been doing it. And that's one thing I
never ever anticipated, because like you said, I always had
the same perspective on it. It was like comedy or
even being a good comedian is inherently progressive or at
the very least, it's like skeptical and you question authority
and that type of thing. So anybody that's gonna fall
(28:41):
in lockstep with an authoritarian regime or be fascist boot
liquors or whatever, it's it's just it's antithetical to everything
that comedy or satire supposed to represent. That's what I
always thought. But what happened. This isn't news. Everybody saw
this unfold. Basically the left has the left got more
and more emboldened to like scold people, especially about don't
(29:02):
say that word, don't make those jokes, don't do this,
don't do that or whatever. And comedians in particular, especially
a lot of big ones, were like, you're not gonna
tell me what I can't what I can and can't
joke about. And they got very defensive about it's the
type of thing that never and when I said that,
you know, I'm talking about fact very famously, Dave Chappelle
with his like trans jokes or whatever, it like.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Everybody didn't want to go to.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And when they got pushed back against that, when people
were like, yeah, you shouldn't do those jokes because they're bad,
and a lot of these comedians are like, fuck you,
and then they like and then that pushed them further
in the other direction, and that sort of led to
a lot of them falling in league with the current
iteration of the American right just because they were aligned
against that type of mentality, and that led to them
like being ancillary to a lot of much more dangerous
(29:46):
shit but also hugely important part of it that you
can'tnot say. When they did this, they also found that
it was incredibly lucrative, like the like right wing grift
or whatever. They made a lot of them found that
it was very make a lot of money from doing that,
and so then they became there were comics who started
trying to get canceled so that they could become part
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of that whole world because they saw how successful that
it could make you be. And there's been some backpedaling
from guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Schultzen dudes like
that about Trump particularly. There's been things like Mark Maron
taking a lot of these guys to task about and
he had a bit from especially went viral where he said,
if Hitler was alive today, he'd do Theo Bond's podcast right,
(30:29):
And that apparently upset Theo and Rogan a lot of them,
but also got made a lot of headlines and a
lot of people. There's I don't know if you've heard
of this thing called the Elephant Graveyard. If y'all heard
of that YouTube channel, you should look it up if
you're at all interested in this. It's this guy who
makes these video essays about this whole world basically and
taking it to task and calling it out. And there's
a weird kind of comedy civil war happening right now
(30:51):
or brewing about this whole kind of thing, and you said,
how it's punching down like that funny That was Maren's
whole thing. When he went on his recent tirade against it,
it was like, look, you won, like you won, Like
these people are disenfranchised, immigrants to bring drug out in
the streets, trans people are afraid to exist, all this stuff.
You won. When are you going to stop with the jokes? Quick? Right? Yeah?
(31:12):
It's like the Also, he's made this point. A bunch
of other people may this point, but it's true. It
very quickly becomes hack because they're all again. Once it
became evident to a lot of up and coming comedians
and stuff that this is how you get to the
arena level, to get to whatever, they all started making
the same jokes about the same things. They all started
bitching about wokeness and talking about trans people, and when
(31:33):
everybody's doing the same thing again, it becomes hack and
pandery and it's bad. But they tried to like somehow
that was edgy or whatever, and I guess it was edgy,
but not in a good way. And it's just been
it's been a weird time.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
How do you deal with Heckler's when you've got, you
must get heckled. Mega folks must to commit either target
you or.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
As far as maga people soaked my whole comedy career.
So far, I seem to have existed at what I
call a like internet comment level of hatred, which means
like they don't hate me enough yet to leave their
house and buy a ticket and come stand in line
and call me a queer or whatever. Yeah, right. I
(32:27):
feel like Donald Trump has been the butt of jokes
since before he even got into politics, like for years,
and some of it I don't know, Maybe he just
doesn't see all of it. Maybe it's like only the
stuff that he sees or is confronted with he just
can't move past and it drives him insane. And then
other stuff people shield from him and never finds out
about because I don't get how he picks and chees
(32:48):
what to be incensed by. Because it's a NonStop deluge
of people making fun of his stupid ass. I'll take
every day.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You know you mentioned We've mentioned all a number of times,
us in them, right, which I only half reject. I
think there is a them because they have this messianic figure.
It's a cult. There's they have things you have to
believe in. Right, You have to believe that twenty twenty
was You have to believe to be in the cult
that twenty twenty was ripped. You don't have to know how,
(33:18):
you just know it was. And January sixth was a
day of love and right. But the US part I
have no idea what you think of Joe Biden. I
didn't think of a whole lot of them. I think
he was a mediocre if that president, And I don't
like AOC doesn't speak for me, and so on the
one side, I think there's a.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
The not Mega. It's pretty amorphous.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
There's no other despite the fact that it's on the
other side, the Mega side is they all deserve to
die because of Charlie Kirk. They want who the fuck
is they? I don't know, but there is a day
from the progressive side. Right, if you're if you're wearing
a Trump T shirt, you're wearing a MEGA hat and
you buy into the religion, it's you know, there's a
(34:01):
there are things, and people don't want to leave.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, maybe Joe Biden one fair and spare because now
you're out there's an in and out, there's contours around them.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, the left is a very the left in general,
or just like you said, not MAGA, especially if you
frame it that way, is a very varied, diverse coalition
or like you said, a morphoist grouping of people. It's
part of the problem that they have in getting anything
done ever or pushing back on stuff, is they can't
agree on pretty much anything, and you're so many different factions.
But that's I feel like that's inherent to being the
(34:33):
official side of different types of people or different belief
systems or whatever, because really the other side is just
it's not it's pretty narrowly defined. They have like their
tokens and stuff. But there's like really a pretty clearly
defined type of person that it's okay to be in
in MAGA world, and that's like a straight Christian, capitalist
conservative pretty much. So the videos we've been talking about,
(34:55):
I've been I called those videos the liberal redneck videos
or whatever, but actually recently, and I make any announcement
about it or whatever, but I stopped. I took that out.
I took that out on my social media bios, and
I took it out of the title of the videos
and stuff. And I just call them like trade crowded
rants or just have it under my name now or whatever.
And I was telling this. I was on this other
political podcast with a lefty buddy mine in California, and
(35:16):
I told him I changed it. He was like, oh, yeah,
you just weren't comfortable being associated with rednecks anymore. And
I was like what, No. I was like, it's because
of liberal is the reason that I stopped using it.
I was like he was, and he was like what.
I was like, yeah, Cause when I first started doing
that in twenty sixteen, especially being from the South, liberal
just meant like liberal democrat, not Republican. All those things
(35:38):
were like basically synonymous. But I feel like now with
the neoliberals and the establishment Democrats and all that, it's
become more clearly defined when it's associated with people like
the very corporate Democrats like Chuck Schumer and those guys.
And I was just like, that ain't my bag anymore.
But to go back to what we were talking about,
so it is amorphis and we are divided on the
(36:00):
whole left and all that in opposition to them, and
like you said, there is them from our perspective. But
I think that kind of makes it true in both directions,
because it's like with the philosophies of viewpoints and goals
that they have to me the way everyone should look
at it, it is us in them because it's like
you said, maga and not maga, right, that is the
us in them, like or that's the way people are
(36:21):
going to have to start looking at it. I think
it's like you're either on board for a totalitarian fascist
dictatorship essentially here authoritarian regime and late stage capitalism and
all that. You're either like down with that, and if
you're not, then you're on our team, or you should.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Be Lennin taught way back when it's just as fascist
and a small vanguard party with a strong leadership and
goals is has more strength and more ability to bring
about change and to take power than the ninety percent.
The Bolsheviks were small minority even within the socialist movement Russia.
(36:58):
But because they were they had a direction, they had
a plan, they had contours, they had.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
They were to kill their opponents.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
There were, yeah, there were more vicious and yeah h
and that that made them more I don't know what
were the Bullsheviks five percent, three percent of even.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I want to ask one comedian question, and it has
to do with the whole comedian Saudi Arabia Reod thing.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, what's your take on on that?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I almost got into that earlier when I was talking
about the right word shift in comedy lately, and but
I said, but lately, I feel like maybe the pendulum
swinging back, and I was like Mark Marin doing this whatever.
But and I almost got into Riodd because I think
that's part of a part of that hopeful shift as well.
But the Reodd Festival specifically, First things first, No, I
was not asked. I don't think they would have asked.
(37:45):
That makes it very easy for all for me to
say all of what follows, because I didn't have a
gigantic check put in front of me that I had
to walk away from. So I'm acknowledging that, Yeah, I
found it. I didn't. I don't feel the same about
literally every comedian that did it. I don't think that
they're all in the same position. There's plenty of went
over there that Again, the check that they got from
that is like bigger by orders of magnitude than anything
(38:07):
they've ever gotten before. They're not household names they don't
have more money than they could ever spend. Their future
is not at all necessarily secured, and it's and then
also there's some of them that it's like there's no
hypocrisy involved. It's like, I don't know the guy. I
think he's funny, he's one of the biggest stars on earth.
Seems like a nice dude. But like, I don't think
anyone was all that surprise that Kevin Hart took the
money to go, do you know what I mean? He's
(38:27):
a He's on a Draft Kings commercial every other commercial
break every day. Like he you pull out the check book,
Kevin Hart's gonna show up, and everybody knows that about him.
So it's so that made it better for him with
this because it's like people aren't surprised, and I don't
think he would deny any of that. He's I'm in
this for the money or whatever. But some of them
it was, you know, it was like, dude, what are
you doing? You know? And like, I mean, the one
(38:49):
that gets talked about the most, of course, and I
agree with it. I'm a huge fan myself, and I
have met this guy a couple of times. Love him.
But like Bill Burr's whole recent thing that he's been on,
which has been like very anti capitalist, very anti billionaire.
This shit's going to be the ruin of us all.
He's been a voice of reason in a lot of ways,
and so to be that guy I do all that
(39:09):
and have people rally around him for that, and then
go over there and shuck and jive for the Saudi Royals,
the people who chop journalists heads off and all that
stuff and kill women with rocks for talking at the
wrong time or having a collar bone show and or
whatever they do over it. But like, it's just it
just feels pretty hard to justify to me. But it
(39:30):
would be one thing if they went and did it
and then came back and we're just like, look, man,
will you let me tell you if someone offered you
the amount of money I got offered for one show,
I'd like to see you say no to it. If
they came back and said that, I'd be like, yeah,
you're right, I don't I'm not in that position. I
don't know, But that's not what most of them have
been doing. They've been getting self righteous about it and
(39:52):
acting like no, really, this was like a humanitarian sort
of ambassador ship that we were doing over there. This
is like cultural outreach. Well see, we were going over
there to try to help the waves of progress move
forward throughout this country because they're trying to do better
and we wanted to assist them in that. That just
to me makes it kind of even worse because it's like, no, no,
(40:14):
you weren't. No, it isn't that's not And also, by
the way, I probably should have started with this, but
I didn't. Many times over the years, I've had fans
of mine who are very you know, people on the
left for sure. Periodically, whenever there's some new trans bill
or whenever there's some voting restriction shit going on in
North Carolina or Georgia or whatever, and I've got shows
coming up in Charlotte or Atlanta or whatever, I will
(40:35):
have fans of mine who live in California or Portland
or whatever say to me like, are you still going
to do that show? Are you really going to go
to North Carolina right now? Like are you not boycotting
North Carolina? Bruce Springsteen is boycotting North Carolina. It's okay,
Well I'm not Bruce Springstein. I don't think I have
the same cultural impact that the Boss does. I'm probably
(40:56):
not going to make as many headlines that he did
by doing that. But also no, I'm not going to
do that because when I go there, the people that
come to the show are going to be people who
also hate that trans bathroom bill and who want to
go to a comedy show. Why should I punish them
for the bullshit that their government does and their state.
It's not their fault. No, of course I'm not going
to do that. And that exact same logic would apply
(41:18):
to just doing a regular tour date in Saudi Arabia.
If you just set up a tour date at a
venue there and said, people are fans of mine, buy
tickets and come see me, then I would have zero
problem with it. It would be the exact same thing
as me doing that show in North Carolina during the
trans bathroom stuff. But that isn't what happened here. This
literally was like an entertainment washing campaign funded by the
(41:41):
regime itself to get people to stop associating them with
fucking beheadings and lack prespech and all that shit. And
that makes it different. This would be more like me again,
and I'd never be asked but me going to do
like a private sing at mar A Lago celebrating the
life of Jeffrey Epstein or whatever, you know what I mean,
Like if I was the entertainment for that and I
agreed to do it and then and it'd be and
(42:02):
then tried to justify that that's more like what this
was put in. Those dudes again, who I think are awesome,
and like I said, it's not all created equals. Some
of them I'm like less disappointed in, and even the
ones I am more disappointed in, they don't give a fuck,
and I wouldn't either if I was them, probably, But
they've got plenty of black backlash for it, and they're
clearly surprised by that. But I'm sure it's like anything,
it'll dissipate everything. The next thing, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
And we will look for the next thing to get
your opinion on it and get your take on it.
So again, thanks so.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Much, thanks for having me back on. It was fun.
It's always a pleasure. I'll tell everybody. Go to Trey
Crowder dot com to check out tour dates if you
want to come save me. And I'm just Trey Crowder
t R A. E. Crowder on any your preferred social
media platform.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
You were showing Honolulu, I'd love to coconut brazier.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, why do you bring up that coconut Brazier?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Then I guess everything to tourists.
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