August 20, 2024 • 51 mins
What REALLY went on behind the walls of the infamous Spelling Manor?
From the gift wrapping rooms, to the underground bowling alley, to the hidden doll museum, Misspelling reveals secrets never before heard about the posh palace.
Plus, producer Amy finally gets to ask everything we want to know about Tori's memories at the Manor.
Does she miss the opulence? Or was it all smoke and mirrors?
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So my producer and co host on OMG and my
friend Amy Sugarman, we all know when she's a true
fan of something and like a super fan, like oh
my god, she goes all out and she happens to
be a little bit fascinated with the idea of the manner.
(00:39):
You could say, manna. Can we refer to it? This
whole thing is the Manna?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Well, yes, because I'm going to ask you a bunch
of questions about that.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
In fact, she was like, uhmember when used to on OMG,
if anything that ever linked to like the manor growing
Up Spell, you would like go with it, and we'd
be like, woo wait, that's we're doing a rewatch here of.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, and it's happening on our melrose Place show that's
called Still the Place because they bring up the Manor too,
because a lot of them came over to your house
for their like sort of audition meeting with your dad.
So it keeps coming up in my world and I'm like,
I just want to do a deep dive, like a
deep dive.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
She's talked about this for years actually, before we did
podcasts like you. You you have a fascination with the manner,
and I believe you said to me, can we do
secrets in the manner?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That would be a really good TV special too. I
can use my new menopause voice, by the way, I
know I talk about it all the time, but my
voice is doing something now that I'm in menopause. I
googled it. It's deeper and raspier and it kind of
freaked me out. And then I googled it and the
Internet said normal. So I was like, I'll just have
(02:00):
this deep, sexier voice. I don't know if it's sexier,
it might be annoyed. So how do you say?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Manner? O?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Good secrets of the manner? How's that? You do it?
You do it? You do it? That was sexy? You
do it. You can do it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But it wasn't like I don't know. It has to
be a little intrigue, a little bit of like the
little little bit of like oh myn no, oh, let
us begin and there comes my menopauseal laugh. You know
right now it's like yeah, too great.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Okay, first question to set the scene, you did not
move to the manor until you were like sixteen, correct,
sixteen and you.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Know what, No, it was. Yeah it was. So my
parents bought the property.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Should I take us back? Yeah, well that's what I
was gonna ask too. Was it dirt and they built it?
Or was there a house there? Give me the background
on that.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh there was a house there. Oh, there is a
house there. So when I was twelve, my parents purchased
property that became the manor. Okay, and it was Bing
Crosby's house. Wow, okay, which little known fact. My mom
loved being Prosby, huge fan, so that was kind of
(03:31):
a fun connection. And then she and then she tore.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
All that she I was gonna say, she was like leveled. Okay, dirt.
So how my property was there?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
No good question?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Acres? Acres? Oh yeah it was acres.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It wasn't like she bought multiple properties and it was
hed it big.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He had it?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh yeah, he had it. But I remember, I mean,
here's the thing. And I think I've talked about this
before when or maybe I have not. For instance, in
our first house growing up, I used to move all
my stuffed animals and I would take some like blankets
(04:14):
and some snacks, and I would go into the cupboard
in the laundry room and say this is my new room.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's how big.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That put it on to perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So how big was that house? Like ten thousand square feet? Correct?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay, I think it was ten to twelve thousand square feet,
which I know is ginormous. Like you know, I'm currently
my kids and I are in a three thousand square
foot house, which is still large to us. So it's
all I get perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So let's just say this. Let's say this for the
sake of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Like it's small.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You don't need to be humble for the sake.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Of this conversation. That came out wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You don't need to be humble for the sake of
this conversation or feel bad telling us because if this
isn't you know, I always I know, But let's do that.
Let's just surrender that for this for the next hour,
because you're a humble person and you don't like to
seem like you're bragging or seem like you're grew up rich,
whatever it is. But for the next hour, let's just
(05:15):
get rid of that so that I can actually ask
you the questions and get the answers.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I am into this. This is Oh, also a lesson
for me in surrendering to what was my life, like, yeah,
this is this was it? Right?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It wasn't your money and you buy this house. You
didn't ask for it. You're not bragging, right, We're gonna
let that go because I really want to know that way,
you're not like whatever the opposite of sugarcoating it is.
You're not downplaying it because I want to know, all right.
So that mansion was where in the valley are also
in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It was on the exact same street still there. Whoa
it was Yeah, one a lot of North Mapleton Drive
and the manor was on South Mapleton Drive. So we
literally crossed Sunset That's what I was gonna say, and
went up to fifty six thousand square feet.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So one was north of Sunset and one was south
of Sunset. The manor was north of Sunset. South, Oh,
south of Sunset. And is that considered like swankier?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh? Because usually like north of some No, no, no,
south south of the boulevard you would say, like I
live in the valley or Sunset Boulevard. Yeah, I guess
south is swankier in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, so you've moved.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Technically it was even more ten Hills.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, it's not where I thought it. I thought it
was closer to the Beverly Hills Hotel.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's not far Okay, Okay, okay, So being Crosby's house
or do you want me to go back to my
original house? You're like, no, this is all about the manor.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Episode's the manor Yeah, okay, so bing Crosby's House.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
My parents obviously they went and looked at it. I'm
sure my mom had narrowed it down and that was
the one. But it was exciting for us because my
brother Randy and I got to go and he was
really little. He won't remember this, but at twelve we
went and coored it and it was like, oh my god,
(07:23):
a kid's paradise. And I was totally always into like mystery,
and back then that was creezy sounding. Okay, mystery, Nancy Drew,
you know all of that. So we went and there
was like tin passage ways and there was like underground
like a library that you pushed on something and it
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went into these like secret rooms. It was like full
on to the point where I was like, oh my god,
this is my life, mom, you have to keep it
like this. But it also had a full on zoo. No, oh,
a full on zoo.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But he had animals like giraffes.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
He had wow drafts, there were lamas and Crosby had
on yes, And I mean, I I know, I don't
know if it was like og bing Crosby's house. I
think it was still in the family though.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, but they got it. It might not. He might
have not been living there, right, got it, got it,
got it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But it was like, I mean, built like zoo. So
the property house was smaller. It was mostly property was
like these ginormous new like settings of you know, walking
by the giraffes and they were all I mean, it
was like it was crazy for me, being an animal lover,
(08:49):
I was like and mystery girl, I was like hidden passageways,
zoo animals. I'm in even though I don't like massive properties.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Just because I want to get to your house. And
so then your mom levels this. This becomes dirt. Okay.
So just to give people like a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Of a great picture of the day they bulldozed it down.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Wow, Okay, we want to see that. So fifty six
thousand square feet is what this house is going to become. Now,
I live in a just under two thousand square foot house,
so we're talking my house thirty times basically.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Thirty three thousand square foot house. I don't do math,
So what's what would be my house?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So it's you know, twenty of your houses right now.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh my gosh, I just crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So because like I think about it like this, If
I walk out my door and I look at thirty
houses basically because my neighborhood, they're all about the same size,
that would be your house. So I have to walk
from my house thirty houses down.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So anyway, a town like a townhouse compound with your
entire compound is just your house.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It would take so to walk. Did you ever like
walk from one end of the house to the other.
It would take ten minutes no longer.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
No, well well well well I'm not okay. So there
were two main entrances. There is the grand entrance. There
were two driveways.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Like a like a fancy people entrance, and then like
the staff entrance. Right where did you park your car
in the front or in the back in the staff
place or.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The again have you met me? Of course? The staff,
like you know, it was just no, that was easy.
And that's where my mom and dad came in. Like
it was just easy. You pulled right in and they
came in the back.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, so guess would come in the front, Yes, would come.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The long, long driveway and you know, pull into this
massive I mean, dare I say Dynasty us? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, you know, well bigger that Dynasty house was smaller.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Right, but the grand not the driveway. But what's the
it you go a long driveway into a circular driveway.
I guess it was like a massive massive It's where
I had my first wedding. But from the aerial view
that everyone takes, you look down and you see that
big circular driveway. That's the massive one. And the steps
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are like white house steps like leading up to the
Give me just.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Some basic stats. How many bedrooms? How many bathrooms do
you remember?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I have to google. I never counted, but.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You definitely never went like potty in every single bathroom?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
God, oh you know me, that would have been such
a fun coffee.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And how many kitchens was there like one kitchen and
then like where the caterers cook, or how many kitchens
there was one?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh my gosh, So from memory, I think I have
read there were a hundred. I don't know why I'm
pulling out this number, but it's probably true. One hundred
and twenty five rooms, I think. Okay, So okay, we
can google. Oh, okay, so kitchen one massive kitchen.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay. And did your mom cook or were there just
always staff cooking?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
My mom is actually a great cook, a tremendous baker
m hm.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But not she didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
She would show them like her recipes and definitely do
that with them. And she was always hands on with
you know, kind of curating the menus and stuff. But
and she loves to throw a good dinner party and
was totally hands on. But we definitely always had.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A chef, okay. And then were there people that are
cooked for us? Okay? Got it? And were there people
that lived there like security or a housekeeper? Like was
there always someone living there?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, there was the staff, like the staff wing, which
was like half the second floor.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So your nanny was also she No, she lived with us, Okay,
got it? Okay, go back to living with us, Like
this is so crazy. No, it's not given time.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
There were at fourteen you know, I mean, there were
always like fourteen people there I'm not sure that because
keep in mind I only lived at the manor.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
We moved I allegedly.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
When I was sixteen, maybe it was closer to seventeen.
We actually moved in, and then I moved out when
I was like eighteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So you live there like a year, a year to
two okay, yeah, okay, So I just have so many questions.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
All right, so you moved away, security around the clock
in the garden.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So it takes four years to build this thing and
then you move in.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Wait, I did something wrong? Then, oh twelve, thirty, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
five years it was six so I was seventeen then
we moved in.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, so you move in and what can you remember
that You're like, was it did it seem like, okay,
this is where I live? Or were you like this
is nuts.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So by the time we moved in, so I was
seventeen because I had my sweet sixteen at the Old
House and I start at nine oh two and oh
at the Old House and that's where they all came
for the first cast reading. Okay, old House, So I
was definitely seventeen by then nine oh two and oh
was in full swing. I don't think I had a
(14:40):
chance to really do.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I was like in and out working all week and
then you know, like Sean would sleep over on the
weekends and we would definitely go out. But I definitely
wasn't like, oh my god, this place is amazing. I
was just like, Okay, this is why we're here.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So I God, there's so many questions, all right, so
let's talk quickly about the yard. There's one pool, there's.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Multiple pools, one pool, one pool, hot toa back, yeah,
hotta some kind of hot there was there. There was
a chacuzzi, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Then was there like a poolhouse, Okay, a pool house
that had like probably another kitchen. I would assume bathrooms
back good.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But the poolhouse was connected to the little hallway that
was the projection room. So that whole room with all
the old like because we had full on movies every
Saturday nights.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Right, So was there movie theater chairs in this room?
And was there popcorn candy that type of thing? And
somebody was hired in and came in and was a
projectist and ran like real movies. Correct.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So my dad obviously his long standing ties with ABC.
He had Benny and Benny was our projectionist at our
first house and our and our new house, and he
would come and on Saturday nights he would come at
like six, set up for a movie at eight, and
in our old house we would have two movies, a
(16:24):
kids movie at six, adult movie at eight, and friends
came over. So this would be like Friends came over.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
My mom always wanted it to not just be like, oh,
a projection room like people have theater theater theater rooms now,
which the chairs and everything. He wanted it to feel
like it was a room that when it was time
for a movie, transformed into wow, okay, theater room. Think
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of like a massive living room, formal living room. Let's
go with sectioned off into two areas. A down area
which had couches and chairs, huge ginormous coffee table like
five of our coffee tables, always her infamous candy dishes
(17:12):
out everywhere that was gonnas.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So there wasn't a concession stand. It was more like
a living room vibe with yes.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And then the upper level would be like one step
up and that would be couches and when she pushed
a button it was seamless carpet. The far end it
was like, uh, and this screen which filled the entire
It was like not one of those like when you
go to the movie theaters and you're like, shoot, I
(17:40):
got the small theater.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, Like it was the big one.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It was massive and it filled the entire wall, which
not just the wall.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It was like, you know, like a museum size.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Wall, and the paintings behind where she and my dad
would sit on the upper level.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
The paintings would.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Rise though, and not just like paintings like that was
behind the picassos and like hey you know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well okay pause pause pause, pas clog in the play
there actually were picassos or like fancy somethings, fancy art.
It wasn't like from Wayfair.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, no, I'm did she have a Pipasso, Monet and renoirs?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Okay? I mean just yes, this may need to be
a two parter. Okay. So these things come up and
what is behind them?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
When you're in a movie theater and you look back
and you see I guess you don't see them anymore. Yeah,
like the widows where it's being and the projection room
was behind it, so those had to go up projected
project Yeah, but like huge and she had this on
just a button that would just be under a table.
(18:59):
She's really meticulous about everything, you know, like it wouldn't
be like a clicker or something.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
There was ever a technical snaffoo? Did that just put her.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Side at it? No?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No, no, once in a bloom moon control all delete and
you're back up again.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, Yeah, celebrities and we would always make popcorn and
bring it in.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Did celebrities come for these movie nights?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Who were the friends? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I'm sure. I mean by the time we were at
the manor and it was mainly gosh, it would be
like my mom and she would have like a couple
friends over my dad. My dad would come down like
his pajamas in thebe Yeah. Yeah. And my brother and
I would bring friends so predominantly like us and stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now I have a million questions to ask, but I
don't want to forget to ask this, so I'm going
out of order. When your dad passed away and your
mom decided to sell the house, were you sad? Did
you want her to? Did you not want her to?
How did you feel about that when she sold the house?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I can honestly say I have no emotional attachment to
the house. Yeah, and I never, I never did. I
have good memories there. But my childhood was my memories.
The best memories with my mom and dad were created
(20:33):
at our.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Their house, at the other house. Okay, yea fair enough.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And I feel like, you know, the house wasn't my
dad's jam. It was a little big for me and cozy,
and my mom loves to decorate. Her design taste is amazing,
her architectural taste, like she you know, it was like
(20:58):
a dream thing for her to build.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, let's get to some of that. Okay, So because
there were some of these weird rooms, I don't want
to say weird, maybe unique to a very wealthy person
that the average person does not have. We hear rumors
of the bowling alley, the wrapping room, the room that
maybe stored the Christmas decorations. I don't know. Tell me
(21:21):
some of those rooms and what was true. So let's
start with the bowling alley. Was there in fact a
bowling alley? How many lanes?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
There was a bowling alley and it was two lanes?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I believe somebody super into bowling.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
My dad.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay, so my dad was a great bowler.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My mom and dad used to go bowling dates when
they were, you know, first met, and like bowling was
always something he loved. But I think once he became
like so famous and such a workaholic, he like stopped
doing all of that. So that was her way of
giving him something that he didn't feel like he had
to go out and do. He had it right there
(22:04):
at home. That was for him. And that was really
cool because we had the bowling lanes and was this like.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I picture it underground? Was it?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It was so when you enter the house, the ground
level is everything and that you would think of on
a ground level, and then there's an elevator.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Okay, I would not go in the unique I would
need the stairs, which I'm sure there were. You'd have
to it's a house.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Uh yes, So you would take the elevator stairs for
you know, all the bedrooms and everything, and then you
would take the elevator downstairs, almost like going to the
basement level where that's where all these unique rooms that
you're going to want to hear about.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So give it all to me. Talk to me.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Bowling alley, bowling alley, but let me go through the
bowling alley really quick. So in the bowling alley. It
was like all my dad. So he had framed like
my mom curated it, framed photos of him going back
to when he was like an actor and directed and
early producing moments. And then he had like all his
(23:24):
awards on a shelf so they would have like his
Emmys and like everything. And then he also had my
mom had a closet you would open and it was
bowling shoes and every single size and they were a
stripe down the middle half was burgundy or maroon, half
(23:46):
was great and they would have sizes on the back. Yeah,
so you never had to worry about that when he
came over.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So you could have real bowling shoes just like at
a bowling alley. Okay, correct.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
And then we had bowling balls, but my dad had
his as bowling ball initialed. I believe my mom had
one initialed. And then there were other bowling balls for reverything.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Like I know this seems weird, but like did someone
run the bowling alley, like who's setting the pins? Like
or could a house manager come and do that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That was on the remote that you could do or
something on the side of the wall that anyone could do.
So my brother and I had friends over or something.
We could manage it ourself, no one had to help.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That was there a room like at the time, I
would think it would be a racquet ball or something like.
Was there another sort of gym or basketball court or
anything else down there?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Bowling was not working out runs in my family, so
we weren't physical people. The gym was in there in
the bowling Oh my god. You know my mom used
to train with like this is og Do you remember
by Jake?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, before he was bodied by Jake, he was like
my mom's personal trainer.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So they would do that tiny, small gym, but right
next to the elevator and then you'd go in. So
where you go in before you would go to the
left and go to the bowling alley, there was this
whole bar area, massive fish tank, and then there would
be the bar in front of it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Whoa okay, like serve drinks bar.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh yeah, I mean it was like a bar you
would go to, except there wasn't a bartender behind it.
But it was like had sides like you could probably
see like twenty people at this bar.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I don't know, God, okay, I've never known that before,
all right, So what else is down there? Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And then you go to the right and there's a
little door. There was an arcade, arcade arcade. Now we
had an arcade. I think my dad had like a
vintage pinball machine when he was young when he first
like made it, like he got one, and I think
he always loved like vintage arcade games. So in my
first house we had an arcade, and we had a
(26:13):
juke box which came all these og games came along,
and then one O Pa. We had pac Man and
Miss pac Man. Okay, we had uh Space Invaders, we
had Pong. We had the jukebox which was very like
(26:33):
had old school like Dean Martin, like my godfather like
stuff all the way.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Slash Dance. There's obviously a juke box in the peach pit,
and like the there's that pinball at the walshes. So
you see sort of little right.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Those two things were really important to my dad totally,
all right. And yeah, and then we had like new
games and stuff like that. So that was in the
arcade and a vintage pinball machine that my mom had
made for my dad and only two of them exist,
and she made one to go in the arcade in
the manor, and one to go in his office.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
He's still around.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm not sure. I think she does.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I think she doesn't in the store or no, you
know what, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
She does have one.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's at the beach House in arcade there, which is
a small.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Room, and I'm not sure where the other one is.
But it was amazing because it was drawn. It was
all pieces from his life. We were on it and
all his shows. And then when you do the.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Island, yeah, and you hit certain.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Things, it would have the voices from the different actors
from his shows.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Like I would say morning Angels.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yes, or love are welcomed to Fantasy Island.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Or wow, I don't know what, the TJ and the Hookers.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And Dynasty Yeah, yeah, and had my voice, my brother's voice,
my mom's voice.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right right, Charlie's Angels was your dad. I didn't make
that up. Okay for a second, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Like, okay, like literally all his stars voiced the things
on the pinball when it would hit certain things, it
was It's incredible. So that was in there, and then
you would go out of the arcade and go into
this big mass another massive room which had the pool
table in the center. Okay, so there's My dad was
a really great at pool. Another thing he loved. I
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don't remember what else was in that room. It was expansive.
But if you go clear through that and open the doors,
you enter the doll museum.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
The doll that's right, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Okay, doll museum.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So what kind of stuff was in there?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, my mom since childhood loved Madam Alexander gals yep,
and she gave that love to me, and I would
always have a collection of Madam Alexander dolls throughout my childhood.
I always got them, but they were like the fancy dolls.
They weren't the dolls you could play with, like the barbies.
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You could cut their hair and do all that with
So I kind of never loved them because I couldn't
like express myself with them and like redress their little things. Sure, sure,
they're like collector's items. So so she collected those, We
collected those. She collected those and grew and grew and
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grew her collection, and then eventually she also had the
Candy Spelling doll collection on QBC that's right, which was
inspired by this, and they were amazing too, and I
might get it backwards, but in the vein of Madame Alexander,
they would have different height ones, and so the different
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height ones, I think there were two sizes on QBC.
One size was modeled after her face as a kid,
and one face was modeled after mine. Oh, this is
something I just thought of. I didn't remember this until
we started talking.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Wow, this up. So she did well with those dolls,
so she sort of business Wow. Okay, yeah, so that
did you ever go play?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Not really in that room lighting and there was like
big ones, the small ones, and they were all displayed.
And then my dad also had a collection of oh shoot,
palm toms not the scandal. Wait hold up, wait wait
it's like automatoms. Am I saying it right? Vintage? They
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moved like originally like the monkey like cupping. She had
like og monkey one, which super scary. But there were
like ones that really were intricate that you would turn
on and things would move around it. We couldn't touch
this these either. They were like thousands of dollars, but
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I don't know. She had them all on display.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Tom Toms how.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Do you spell it? A Tomton's? I just remember it's
like the monkey clapping like you would wind it up
and be okay. But they had like really intricate ones
that like you would turn like almost like a wind
up on and like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Things would move and go around.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And then she had a stage. Oh my god, for
like puppets, no marionettes.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's like animatronics. Animatronics like chuck E cheese.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh god, I wish I would have been great. Okay,
so you guys.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Hint creepy for me. I love your mom, but this
room's a little creepy. I'm not totally feeling this.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
She's a collector. Okay, it was creepy as fuck. Yeah.
If people going friends, oh my god. I used to
fuck with my friends so bad because no, no, I'm
not kidding. And Brian and I.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Talk about this.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
So there if you go, if you go down the
bowling alley and you go right down the back like
where the gutter is right, what this.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Is like a trip? Okay, keep going.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay, So one time Brian Green and I and all
our friends like we were over and I showed him
but I used to do this with all my friends.
Like he wasn't scared. But like I've had some friends
that I have messed with bad. You would go down
the bowling alley to the back and there was like
you would push the wall it was seamless and it
would pop open and you would go and you could
go around the whole mechanics of the back of the
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mono and I mean it was like, I don't know,
everything was down there. It was like the workings of
awe whoa okay, And that would take you all the
way around. It was dark and we weren't supposed to
go back there, sorry, mom. And you would come out
on another wall you would push seamless and it would
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pop you into the doll museum, which is on the
other side of the house on the basement level.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Did you ever play Hide and go Seek in this house?
My gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But we had to stop because one time I had
a friend get lost. We can find her for two days,
and it was a problem. Her parents were furious. I
just made that up. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Hide and seek it was like impossible. I mean, if
you hand like a three day hide and Seek adventure,
I mean imagine escape rooms and immersive events.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Totally totally all right, you're in the okay, pop this call.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
We would scare friends, first of all, just the way
you're reacting. Almost every friend that I would bring over,
like girls in high.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
School, would be like they'd walk into the.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Doll museum and I'd be like adjusting the lights to
dim them perfectly, and they're like, this is creepy.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Sorry eighties children with Poultergeist, and it's just like the
clown will never leave.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Everyone was scared, terrified, but we my brother and I
would mess with them and like you would be like, oh, someone,
you know, one of us take you on a tour.
And then someone would pop through that door and go
around the back and go whoa. And then they'd be like, would.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Your mom go down there and kind of enjoy it
or you know, rearrange the dolls? Like would she go
down there? Or maybe like I don't know what was
happening in there, nothing a lot enough.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You would check to see if everything was dusted, but
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Sorry, all right, So then what else is down there?
What else is down in this sort of basement? Is
this where the wrapping room is? Oh no, the wrapping
room wasn't.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Down there now, So there were two wrapping rooms two two,
and then they one.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Wrapping like on the walls, like at the department stores
where you could go off that big thing and run,
or it was it regular roles.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh duh, okay, okay, now I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Wall.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, I mean she like put it in where it
was like seamless to the wall. You would have like
the beautiful did she do all of it?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So she did the.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wrapping, Wow, all of it?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Wow, it was her.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I mean it's d y, just a very elevated level.
I have a craft drawer, for instance. That's the extensive
extense crafty people.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
But like on Christmas, ravigantly wrapped in gifts that your
mom rapped.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And this was going back to when I was little,
so she always like wanted to have She was like,
one day, I'm gonna have like a dedicated gift wrapping room.
And she did, and she would have My mom so organized.
She's she's a Virgo double virgo, so she likes things
very organized.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I wish I had. I was going to say, just
like you, not at all.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I mean, I'm like the opposite, maybe because my life
was so organized growing up, I just was like book it.
He went the opposite. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's a theory.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Uh, but she would have everything, like one wall would
just be like Riven. One wall would just be all
little what we would think of now trinkets, charms, and
it would be like, yeah, it was every animal. It
would be like going into Michael's basically.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
But way better curated super sheet. Okay, so here's my question.
Was the house always organized like no one had clutter?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Like where was the clutter? No clutter in my brain?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And was your room always like clean and organized there?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah? WHOA, I wonder if like you're not my doing.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
No, I know, I wonder if like your clutter thing
is because you never had clutter before. Sorry to call
you out, but Tori's not. She's a little messy, guys,
Like she's a little messy messiest.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Fuck. Yeah, it's interesting when I go to other people's
houses or like a if we stay in an airbnb
and get super excited to like make everything pretty and
make it look great, like yeah, great right, But in
my own life, no, it doesn't happen even before kids. Yeah,
(37:37):
I don't know, I mean, but keep in mind, you guys,
I grew up that I'm not taught like, hey, when
you take something off, you put it here and fold
in like oh okay, okay, okay. From a young but yeah,
this is what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like I would take.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Something off or you know, and before it hit the
ground some ground it It was you know, it was
just I remember my best friend Jess. This is not
that long ago, you guys, this is like seven years ago.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Uh I was.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
She was like, oh, She's like, we grabbed the vacuum.
We had made a mess and it was like after
New Year's and she was like, there's confetti and I
was like okay. And she was sitting there and I
went and grabbed it and then I was like you.
She goes, what are you doing? And I go, I
don't know how to turn a vacuum on. She goes
what And she was laughing. She was dying.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
She's like, is this a joke? Right now?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I was like, it's not a joke. I'm so embarrassed.
I don't even want to say. And then she was like, no,
you know what, Actually it makes sense, like the way
you grew up, like we all get taught that we or.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
We would get like paid like a dollar to vacuum
the house, right, so like you're not going to get
paid a vacuum of fifty six.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Oh god, I mean it m'd be more than all area.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, in the in the eighties. In the eighties, I
think we had a vacuum and then you'd rake the rug.
I never did the raking, but like my mom can remember,
like you'd rake the rug.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I hear stories of this from friends, and I'm like,
I wanted that when I was young. I mean, we'll
do that in another episode. We got to talk the
whole episode about literally growing up, because I on summer
vacations would beg the staff that worked at my first
house growing up to just work for them and follow
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them around all day and have lunch with them.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Wow, just taking this all.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, that's a whole different story. But yeah, that was
me growing up. Like I was like, you know, yeah, anyway,
it's next. Am I blowing your mind right now?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You're like, no, just to like the whole thing. The
whole thing is just like a lot. All right, let's
go from the basement upstairs right on the main level.
I'm sure there was like we don't need to get
the weeds, but there's like a living room, dining room. Now,
did you ever have spelling family dinners like that was
just the four of you, yes, but not in the
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dining room in the where were room? And is that
attached to the kitchen or it was separate. So there
you enter the house from the side what you would
call it like the staff entrance, but that was our end.
It was like every wheel right, your car came through there.
We never came through the big heavy doors.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
In the front, and to the right was the guard's room.
To the left was guard staff like kitchen.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Now when you say sorry, when you say the guard's room,
like it's where the guard slept, or it's where the
guard is like in his little space and like twenty
monitors and is like making sure. Wow, okay, So the two.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Security guards twenty four hours a day, they took shifts.
No one slept there. What did they have guns?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Good question? Probably.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I believe they were all retired police officers, So I
believe they did. Which in my old house when I
was young, not all of them were armed. And there
would be uh college kids that would do it as
like a side job at night. Oh my friends and
I would sneak in there and.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I think they were cute.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, all right, so the.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Guard all right, I'm just the guards. I'm not gonna lie,
I'm just overwhelmed or in the dogs.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
The dogs always, I don't even know why had their
beds in the dogs in the guard's room. This is
from when we were young, so it just like carried on,
carried on, and so the dogs would be in their
beds in there. They had full roam of the house
but I don't know, and the guards would take them
mountain stuff. Then the staff like kitchen slash dining room
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to the left where they would eat lunch and everything
and had brakes. Then this kind of moss hallway, and
then to the left would be the ginormous kitchen. It
was a huge two of like two refrigerators, two freezers
like all of that. Then there'd be the silver room,
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silver country.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Oh my god, okay, which that stuff is a real
pain in the ass to polish. I would I don't.
I would never use silver because you have to hand
wash it and polish it a.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Trop Oh my gosh. I'm not sure how often. But
the butler would that would be like a full day
job to.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
We're gonna need it. We're gonna We're going to pause again,
the butler, So is there like a butler that answers
the door like and does all the the butt. I
need to know what this guy did. So did you
ever answer the front door or like the butler did?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Or did it? Uh? No, I just wanted to go there,
butler did the butler? Hey, once we got to the manor,
I feel like we didn't really have a skeler as much.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Did your dad have like a right hand man two
that would like start up the car or your dad
didn't drive right? Oh?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Big Renee that was his name, because my dad he
had two Renees in his life. Female Renee, who is
his assistant. He called his work wife like she was
with her before he even met my mom. That's how
they were together, went through from small to big with
him and then Renee. His driver was a retired chauffeur
(43:43):
for a service and he was his He drove us everywhere,
drove my dad to work and back. And yeah, did
your dad ever drive? No?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
What about your mom? Yes? Okay, wow, So your dad
had this driver and like this guy would come at
eight am or seven am or whatever and just be
there until he dropped him off at night and take
him around. Like if your dad was like I need
to go to a lunch.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It the you know right, damn must have driven at
some point. I mean I remember us on Saturdays, like
going to thrifties my dad and I.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yes, I remember to get ice cream. Oh my god?
So how many cars? How many cars were there? Like
was there a big in this staff entrance? Was there
a big garage and a lot of cars? Like what
kind of car did your dad drive around in? Like
a Rolls Royce Stretch, a Limo, Nomo?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
And and then I think like, yeah, we had the
white Limo in the eighties, Like growing up it was
the white long stretch eighties Limo. And then I feel
like my mom like transitioned him to like more modern
times and then he had like a town car in
Okay probably once we moved there. It was like a
town car.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
But you would like a family trip, like, say, y'all
are going because you didn't fly, so say you're all
going to like I don't know, somebody, I'm just making
it up. Did a driver drive you?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
And an RV? Oh my god, and an r V?
And how who else would come along?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
The nanny, the nanny, my dad's assistant, my mom's assistant,
Jerry and when we were young, who was like our
security guard slash like family, like you did everything with
us driver.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, so there was no like just the four of
you barely ever.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
No, we would go on smaller trips than there would
be I guess when I'm thinking like family vacations in RV,
I'm thinking Vegas because we would go there and stay
for like a month, and my dad would also film
and do all that so he could work and be
with us. But I guess when we went to like,
you know, if we were going to like San Diego
(45:54):
for the weekend or something like that, it wouldn't be
it would just be the four of us and maybe
a nanny.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Ya. Wow, all right, so week can we go back
to where were we? Yeah, we're gonna have to do
a part two.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
There's some hard ship, right, this is crazy stuff. I'm
not I'm remembering for the first time in twenty years.
This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, because we haven't even gotten to the bathrooms. I
haven't gotten to the bedrooms I have I don't know
what's in the attic, Like, there's so much. All right,
to end this first part of say It, Secrets of
the Manner, Secrets of the secrets.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I could do better?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
So well, how do I even like end this? It's like,
was it happy? There?
Speaker 2 (46:45):
There can of We're going to go.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Into so much more. I mean I have like did
you ever just get a tune, a fish sandwich and
go sit in a chaise lounge out by the pool?
I mean, was there a ping pong table?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I got?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I got endless questions. But just because this is overwhelming,
like was it fun? There? Was it fun?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well? We had so much fun, but like, I'll leave
you on this for this one fifty six thousand square
foot house, one hundred and twenty five ish rooms maybe more,
and the only rooms my core four person family ever
(47:29):
used all the time.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Was the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, my parents' office because my dad had his own office.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
There was your dad's office and then their office correct, wow.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Okay, And his office was the one he did all
his business meetings in and my mom had every show
and movie he ever did, leather bound scripts, walls, you know,
Florida ceiling covering, a big desk, you know, and he'd
have great meetings in there, and we watch all his
(48:02):
dailies in there that I loved going in there. But yeah,
so our family office the kitchen, our bedrooms, which my parents' bedroom,
my brother and I and and I guess like the
lower level, which just the bowling alley, the bar, and
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the arcade, because we were scared of the doll museum too,
and that's like all we ever went in. Ever in
the bathroom, was there a family keep in mind. Oh wait,
I'll leave you on this fun one. My brother and I.
I think this is very like fancy European or something.
But each of our rooms had a guest room.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
What so like when you had a friend sleepover, they
could sleep in the room attached to your room.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Like it was like an alcove in the main hallway
and you go into this alcove and there'd be a
vested mule, and then you could go left within this
festibule and make left. You'd go into my room. Right,
you would go into my guest room. It's very fancy
that left in the bathroom or you shared the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
No, oh yeah, Tory's guests room had its own bathroom.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yes, because it was kind of in the theory of
like a two bedroom suiteet at a hotel. You have
the main room and then you have the other one.
Guess who slept in that guest bedroom.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Shannon, nobody. No everybody slept in them.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
We all piled in my bed and wanted to be
cozy and hang out and beat girls, and no one
ever slept in that room.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Did you ever have to make a bed or did
someone come and make your bed every day?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I never made a bed till I moved to my
first apartment, or if I slept at friends' houses, but
I was never allowed really, only like one once or
twice I would help them.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Wow, So I know, send more questions. But I'm also
gonna let people send us their questions for part two
Secrets of the Manor. So send us your d ms
or write them on you know, Instagram, so we can
for part two because like, we haven't even covered any
of the things I wanted to cover.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
We have to find these on eBay somewhere. I wish
I had kept one. There were pens that my mom
had made. Penza said this was stolen from the Manner
who she was being funny.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Very really get a president ever come to the Manor.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Oh, Prince Charles.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
My god, Okay, join us for part two of Secrets
of the Manor, coming soon, and you will hear about
Prince Charles's visit to the manner. You can't say it right.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
You say it secrets the manner. Oh, I'm getting better.
This is fun.
Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So my producer and co host on OMG and my
friend Amy Sugarman, we all know when she's a true
fan of something and like a super fan, like oh
my god, she goes all out and she happens to
be a little bit fascinated with the idea of the manner.
(00:39):
You could say, manna. Can we refer to it? This
whole thing is the Manna?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Well, yes, because I'm going to ask you a bunch
of questions about that.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
In fact, she was like, uhmember when used to on OMG,
if anything that ever linked to like the manor growing
Up Spell, you would like go with it, and we'd
be like, woo wait, that's we're doing a rewatch here of.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, and it's happening on our melrose Place show that's
called Still the Place because they bring up the Manor too,
because a lot of them came over to your house
for their like sort of audition meeting with your dad.
So it keeps coming up in my world and I'm like,
I just want to do a deep dive, like a
deep dive.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
She's talked about this for years actually, before we did
podcasts like you. You you have a fascination with the manner,
and I believe you said to me, can we do
secrets in the manner?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That would be a really good TV special too. I
can use my new menopause voice, by the way, I
know I talk about it all the time, but my
voice is doing something now that I'm in menopause. I
googled it. It's deeper and raspier and it kind of
freaked me out. And then I googled it and the
Internet said normal. So I was like, I'll just have
(02:00):
this deep, sexier voice. I don't know if it's sexier,
it might be annoyed. So how do you say?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Manner? O?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Good secrets of the manner? How's that? You do it?
You do it? You do it? That was sexy? You
do it. You can do it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But it wasn't like I don't know. It has to
be a little intrigue, a little bit of like the
little little bit of like oh myn no, oh, let
us begin and there comes my menopauseal laugh. You know
right now it's like yeah, too great.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Okay, first question to set the scene, you did not
move to the manor until you were like sixteen, correct,
sixteen and you.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Know what, No, it was. Yeah it was. So my
parents bought the property.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Should I take us back? Yeah, well that's what I
was gonna ask too. Was it dirt and they built it?
Or was there a house there? Give me the background
on that.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh there was a house there. Oh, there is a
house there. So when I was twelve, my parents purchased
property that became the manor. Okay, and it was Bing
Crosby's house. Wow, okay, which little known fact. My mom
loved being Prosby, huge fan, so that was kind of
(03:31):
a fun connection. And then she and then she tore.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
All that she I was gonna say, she was like leveled. Okay, dirt.
So how my property was there?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
No good question?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Acres? Acres? Oh yeah it was acres.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It wasn't like she bought multiple properties and it was
hed it big.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He had it?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh yeah, he had it. But I remember, I mean,
here's the thing. And I think I've talked about this
before when or maybe I have not. For instance, in
our first house growing up, I used to move all
my stuffed animals and I would take some like blankets
(04:14):
and some snacks, and I would go into the cupboard
in the laundry room and say this is my new room.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's how big.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That put it on to perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So how big was that house? Like ten thousand square feet? Correct?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay, I think it was ten to twelve thousand square feet,
which I know is ginormous. Like you know, I'm currently
my kids and I are in a three thousand square
foot house, which is still large to us. So it's
all I get perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So let's just say this. Let's say this for the
sake of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Like it's small.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You don't need to be humble for the sake.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Of this conversation. That came out wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You don't need to be humble for the sake of
this conversation or feel bad telling us because if this
isn't you know, I always I know, But let's do that.
Let's just surrender that for this for the next hour,
because you're a humble person and you don't like to
seem like you're bragging or seem like you're grew up rich,
whatever it is. But for the next hour, let's just
(05:15):
get rid of that so that I can actually ask
you the questions and get the answers.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I am into this. This is Oh, also a lesson
for me in surrendering to what was my life, like, yeah,
this is this was it? Right?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It wasn't your money and you buy this house. You
didn't ask for it. You're not bragging, right, We're gonna
let that go because I really want to know that way,
you're not like whatever the opposite of sugarcoating it is.
You're not downplaying it because I want to know, all right.
So that mansion was where in the valley are also
in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It was on the exact same street still there. Whoa
it was Yeah, one a lot of North Mapleton Drive
and the manor was on South Mapleton Drive. So we
literally crossed Sunset That's what I was gonna say, and
went up to fifty six thousand square feet.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So one was north of Sunset and one was south
of Sunset. The manor was north of Sunset. South, Oh,
south of Sunset. And is that considered like swankier?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh? Because usually like north of some No, no, no,
south south of the boulevard you would say, like I
live in the valley or Sunset Boulevard. Yeah, I guess
south is swankier in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, so you've moved.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Technically it was even more ten Hills.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, it's not where I thought it. I thought it
was closer to the Beverly Hills Hotel.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's not far Okay, Okay, okay, So being Crosby's house
or do you want me to go back to my
original house? You're like, no, this is all about the manor.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Episode's the manor Yeah, okay, so bing Crosby's House.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
My parents obviously they went and looked at it. I'm
sure my mom had narrowed it down and that was
the one. But it was exciting for us because my
brother Randy and I got to go and he was
really little. He won't remember this, but at twelve we
went and coored it and it was like, oh my god,
(07:23):
a kid's paradise. And I was totally always into like mystery,
and back then that was creezy sounding. Okay, mystery, Nancy Drew,
you know all of that. So we went and there
was like tin passage ways and there was like underground
like a library that you pushed on something and it
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went into these like secret rooms. It was like full
on to the point where I was like, oh my god,
this is my life, mom, you have to keep it
like this. But it also had a full on zoo. No, oh,
a full on zoo.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But he had animals like giraffes.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
He had wow drafts, there were lamas and Crosby had
on yes, And I mean, I I know, I don't
know if it was like og bing Crosby's house. I
think it was still in the family though.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, but they got it. It might not. He might
have not been living there, right, got it, got it,
got it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But it was like, I mean, built like zoo. So
the property house was smaller. It was mostly property was
like these ginormous new like settings of you know, walking
by the giraffes and they were all I mean, it
was like it was crazy for me, being an animal lover,
(08:49):
I was like and mystery girl, I was like hidden passageways,
zoo animals. I'm in even though I don't like massive properties.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Just because I want to get to your house. And
so then your mom levels this. This becomes dirt. Okay.
So just to give people like a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Of a great picture of the day they bulldozed it down.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Wow, Okay, we want to see that. So fifty six
thousand square feet is what this house is going to become. Now,
I live in a just under two thousand square foot house,
so we're talking my house thirty times basically.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Thirty three thousand square foot house. I don't do math,
So what's what would be my house?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So it's you know, twenty of your houses right now.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh my gosh, I just crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So because like I think about it like this, If
I walk out my door and I look at thirty
houses basically because my neighborhood, they're all about the same size,
that would be your house. So I have to walk
from my house thirty houses down.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So anyway, a town like a townhouse compound with your
entire compound is just your house.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It would take so to walk. Did you ever like
walk from one end of the house to the other.
It would take ten minutes no longer.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
No, well well well well I'm not okay. So there
were two main entrances. There is the grand entrance. There
were two driveways.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Like a like a fancy people entrance, and then like
the staff entrance. Right where did you park your car
in the front or in the back in the staff
place or.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The again have you met me? Of course? The staff,
like you know, it was just no, that was easy.
And that's where my mom and dad came in. Like
it was just easy. You pulled right in and they
came in the back.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, so guess would come in the front, Yes, would come.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The long, long driveway and you know, pull into this
massive I mean, dare I say Dynasty us? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, you know, well bigger that Dynasty house was smaller.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Right, but the grand not the driveway. But what's the
it you go a long driveway into a circular driveway.
I guess it was like a massive massive It's where
I had my first wedding. But from the aerial view
that everyone takes, you look down and you see that
big circular driveway. That's the massive one. And the steps
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are like white house steps like leading up to the
Give me just.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Some basic stats. How many bedrooms? How many bathrooms do
you remember?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I have to google. I never counted, but.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You definitely never went like potty in every single bathroom?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
God, oh you know me, that would have been such
a fun coffee.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And how many kitchens was there like one kitchen and
then like where the caterers cook, or how many kitchens
there was one?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh my gosh, So from memory, I think I have
read there were a hundred. I don't know why I'm
pulling out this number, but it's probably true. One hundred
and twenty five rooms, I think. Okay, So okay, we
can google. Oh, okay, so kitchen one massive kitchen.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay. And did your mom cook or were there just
always staff cooking?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
My mom is actually a great cook, a tremendous baker
m hm.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But not she didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
She would show them like her recipes and definitely do
that with them. And she was always hands on with
you know, kind of curating the menus and stuff. But
and she loves to throw a good dinner party and
was totally hands on. But we definitely always had.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A chef, okay. And then were there people that are
cooked for us? Okay? Got it? And were there people
that lived there like security or a housekeeper? Like was
there always someone living there?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, there was the staff, like the staff wing, which
was like half the second floor.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So your nanny was also she No, she lived with us, Okay,
got it? Okay, go back to living with us, Like
this is so crazy. No, it's not given time.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
There were at fourteen you know, I mean, there were
always like fourteen people there I'm not sure that because
keep in mind I only lived at the manor.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
We moved I allegedly.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
When I was sixteen, maybe it was closer to seventeen.
We actually moved in, and then I moved out when
I was like eighteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So you live there like a year, a year to
two okay, yeah, okay, So I just have so many questions.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
All right, so you moved away, security around the clock
in the garden.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So it takes four years to build this thing and
then you move in.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Wait, I did something wrong? Then, oh twelve, thirty, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
five years it was six so I was seventeen then
we moved in.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, so you move in and what can you remember
that You're like, was it did it seem like, okay,
this is where I live? Or were you like this
is nuts.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So by the time we moved in, so I was
seventeen because I had my sweet sixteen at the Old
House and I start at nine oh two and oh
at the Old House and that's where they all came
for the first cast reading. Okay, old House, So I
was definitely seventeen by then nine oh two and oh
was in full swing. I don't think I had a
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chance to really do.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I was like in and out working all week and
then you know, like Sean would sleep over on the
weekends and we would definitely go out. But I definitely
wasn't like, oh my god, this place is amazing. I
was just like, Okay, this is why we're here.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So I God, there's so many questions, all right, so
let's talk quickly about the yard. There's one pool, there's.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Multiple pools, one pool, one pool, hot toa back, yeah,
hotta some kind of hot there was there. There was
a chacuzzi, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Then was there like a poolhouse, Okay, a pool house
that had like probably another kitchen. I would assume bathrooms
back good.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But the poolhouse was connected to the little hallway that
was the projection room. So that whole room with all
the old like because we had full on movies every
Saturday nights.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Right, So was there movie theater chairs in this room?
And was there popcorn candy that type of thing? And
somebody was hired in and came in and was a
projectist and ran like real movies. Correct.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So my dad obviously his long standing ties with ABC.
He had Benny and Benny was our projectionist at our
first house and our and our new house, and he
would come and on Saturday nights he would come at
like six, set up for a movie at eight, and
in our old house we would have two movies, a
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kids movie at six, adult movie at eight, and friends
came over. So this would be like Friends came over.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
My mom always wanted it to not just be like, oh,
a projection room like people have theater theater theater rooms now,
which the chairs and everything. He wanted it to feel
like it was a room that when it was time
for a movie, transformed into wow, okay, theater room. Think
(16:52):
of like a massive living room, formal living room. Let's
go with sectioned off into two areas. A down area
which had couches and chairs, huge ginormous coffee table like
five of our coffee tables, always her infamous candy dishes
(17:12):
out everywhere that was gonnas.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So there wasn't a concession stand. It was more like
a living room vibe with yes.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And then the upper level would be like one step
up and that would be couches and when she pushed
a button it was seamless carpet. The far end it
was like, uh, and this screen which filled the entire
It was like not one of those like when you
go to the movie theaters and you're like, shoot, I
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got the small theater.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, Like it was the big one.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It was massive and it filled the entire wall, which
not just the wall.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It was like, you know, like a museum size.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Wall, and the paintings behind where she and my dad
would sit on the upper level.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
The paintings would.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Rise though, and not just like paintings like that was
behind the picassos and like hey you know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well okay pause pause pause, pas clog in the play
there actually were picassos or like fancy somethings, fancy art.
It wasn't like from Wayfair.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, no, I'm did she have a Pipasso, Monet and renoirs?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Okay? I mean just yes, this may need to be
a two parter. Okay. So these things come up and
what is behind them?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
When you're in a movie theater and you look back
and you see I guess you don't see them anymore. Yeah,
like the widows where it's being and the projection room
was behind it, so those had to go up projected
project Yeah, but like huge and she had this on
just a button that would just be under a table.
(18:59):
She's really meticulous about everything, you know, like it wouldn't
be like a clicker or something.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
There was ever a technical snaffoo? Did that just put her.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Side at it? No?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No, no, once in a bloom moon control all delete and
you're back up again.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, Yeah, celebrities and we would always make popcorn and
bring it in.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Did celebrities come for these movie nights?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Who were the friends? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I'm sure. I mean by the time we were at
the manor and it was mainly gosh, it would be
like my mom and she would have like a couple
friends over my dad. My dad would come down like
his pajamas in thebe Yeah. Yeah. And my brother and
I would bring friends so predominantly like us and stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now I have a million questions to ask, but I
don't want to forget to ask this, so I'm going
out of order. When your dad passed away and your
mom decided to sell the house, were you sad? Did
you want her to? Did you not want her to?
How did you feel about that when she sold the house?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I can honestly say I have no emotional attachment to
the house. Yeah, and I never, I never did. I
have good memories there. But my childhood was my memories.
The best memories with my mom and dad were created
(20:33):
at our.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Their house, at the other house. Okay, yea fair enough.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And I feel like, you know, the house wasn't my
dad's jam. It was a little big for me and cozy,
and my mom loves to decorate. Her design taste is amazing,
her architectural taste, like she you know, it was like
(20:58):
a dream thing for her to build.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, let's get to some of that. Okay, So because
there were some of these weird rooms, I don't want
to say weird, maybe unique to a very wealthy person
that the average person does not have. We hear rumors
of the bowling alley, the wrapping room, the room that
maybe stored the Christmas decorations. I don't know. Tell me
(21:21):
some of those rooms and what was true. So let's
start with the bowling alley. Was there in fact a
bowling alley? How many lanes?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
There was a bowling alley and it was two lanes?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I believe somebody super into bowling.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
My dad.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay, so my dad was a great bowler.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My mom and dad used to go bowling dates when
they were, you know, first met, and like bowling was
always something he loved. But I think once he became
like so famous and such a workaholic, he like stopped
doing all of that. So that was her way of
giving him something that he didn't feel like he had
to go out and do. He had it right there
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at home. That was for him. And that was really
cool because we had the bowling lanes and was this like.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I picture it underground? Was it?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It was so when you enter the house, the ground
level is everything and that you would think of on
a ground level, and then there's an elevator.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Okay, I would not go in the unique I would
need the stairs, which I'm sure there were. You'd have
to it's a house.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Uh yes, So you would take the elevator stairs for
you know, all the bedrooms and everything, and then you
would take the elevator downstairs, almost like going to the
basement level where that's where all these unique rooms that
you're going to want to hear about.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So give it all to me. Talk to me.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Bowling alley, bowling alley, but let me go through the
bowling alley really quick. So in the bowling alley. It
was like all my dad. So he had framed like
my mom curated it, framed photos of him going back
to when he was like an actor and directed and
early producing moments. And then he had like all his
(23:24):
awards on a shelf so they would have like his
Emmys and like everything. And then he also had my
mom had a closet you would open and it was
bowling shoes and every single size and they were a
stripe down the middle half was burgundy or maroon, half
(23:46):
was great and they would have sizes on the back. Yeah,
so you never had to worry about that when he
came over.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So you could have real bowling shoes just like at
a bowling alley. Okay, correct.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
And then we had bowling balls, but my dad had
his as bowling ball initialed. I believe my mom had
one initialed. And then there were other bowling balls for reverything.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Like I know this seems weird, but like did someone
run the bowling alley, like who's setting the pins? Like
or could a house manager come and do that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That was on the remote that you could do or
something on the side of the wall that anyone could do.
So my brother and I had friends over or something.
We could manage it ourself, no one had to help.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That was there a room like at the time, I
would think it would be a racquet ball or something like.
Was there another sort of gym or basketball court or
anything else down there?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Bowling was not working out runs in my family, so
we weren't physical people. The gym was in there in
the bowling Oh my god. You know my mom used
to train with like this is og Do you remember
by Jake?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, before he was bodied by Jake, he was like
my mom's personal trainer.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So they would do that tiny, small gym, but right
next to the elevator and then you'd go in. So
where you go in before you would go to the
left and go to the bowling alley, there was this
whole bar area, massive fish tank, and then there would
be the bar in front of it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Whoa okay, like serve drinks bar.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh yeah, I mean it was like a bar you
would go to, except there wasn't a bartender behind it.
But it was like had sides like you could probably
see like twenty people at this bar.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I don't know, God, okay, I've never known that before,
all right, So what else is down there? Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And then you go to the right and there's a
little door. There was an arcade, arcade arcade. Now we
had an arcade. I think my dad had like a
vintage pinball machine when he was young when he first
like made it, like he got one, and I think
he always loved like vintage arcade games. So in my
first house we had an arcade, and we had a
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juke box which came all these og games came along,
and then one O Pa. We had pac Man and
Miss pac Man. Okay, we had uh Space Invaders, we
had Pong. We had the jukebox which was very like
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had old school like Dean Martin, like my godfather like
stuff all the way.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Slash Dance. There's obviously a juke box in the peach pit,
and like the there's that pinball at the walshes. So
you see sort of little right.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Those two things were really important to my dad totally,
all right. And yeah, and then we had like new
games and stuff like that. So that was in the
arcade and a vintage pinball machine that my mom had
made for my dad and only two of them exist,
and she made one to go in the arcade in
the manor, and one to go in his office.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
He's still around.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm not sure. I think she does.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I think she doesn't in the store or no, you
know what, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
She does have one.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's at the beach House in arcade there, which is
a small.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Room, and I'm not sure where the other one is.
But it was amazing because it was drawn. It was
all pieces from his life. We were on it and
all his shows. And then when you do the.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Island, yeah, and you hit certain.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Things, it would have the voices from the different actors
from his shows.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Like I would say morning Angels.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yes, or love are welcomed to Fantasy Island.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Or wow, I don't know what, the TJ and the Hookers.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And Dynasty Yeah, yeah, and had my voice, my brother's voice,
my mom's voice.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right right, Charlie's Angels was your dad. I didn't make
that up. Okay for a second, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Like, okay, like literally all his stars voiced the things
on the pinball when it would hit certain things, it
was It's incredible. So that was in there, and then
you would go out of the arcade and go into
this big mass another massive room which had the pool
table in the center. Okay, so there's My dad was
a really great at pool. Another thing he loved. I
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don't remember what else was in that room. It was expansive.
But if you go clear through that and open the doors,
you enter the doll museum.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
The doll that's right, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Okay, doll museum.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So what kind of stuff was in there?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, my mom since childhood loved Madam Alexander gals yep,
and she gave that love to me, and I would
always have a collection of Madam Alexander dolls throughout my childhood.
I always got them, but they were like the fancy dolls.
They weren't the dolls you could play with, like the barbies.
(29:16):
You could cut their hair and do all that with
So I kind of never loved them because I couldn't
like express myself with them and like redress their little things. Sure, sure,
they're like collector's items. So so she collected those, We
collected those. She collected those and grew and grew and
(29:39):
grew her collection, and then eventually she also had the
Candy Spelling doll collection on QBC that's right, which was
inspired by this, and they were amazing too, and I
might get it backwards, but in the vein of Madame Alexander,
they would have different height ones, and so the different
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height ones, I think there were two sizes on QBC.
One size was modeled after her face as a kid,
and one face was modeled after mine. Oh, this is
something I just thought of. I didn't remember this until
we started talking.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Wow, this up. So she did well with those dolls,
so she sort of business Wow. Okay, yeah, so that
did you ever go play?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Not really in that room lighting and there was like
big ones, the small ones, and they were all displayed.
And then my dad also had a collection of oh shoot,
palm toms not the scandal. Wait hold up, wait wait
it's like automatoms. Am I saying it right? Vintage? They
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moved like originally like the monkey like cupping. She had
like og monkey one, which super scary. But there were
like ones that really were intricate that you would turn
on and things would move around it. We couldn't touch
this these either. They were like thousands of dollars, but
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I don't know. She had them all on display.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Tom Toms how.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Do you spell it? A Tomton's? I just remember it's
like the monkey clapping like you would wind it up
and be okay. But they had like really intricate ones
that like you would turn like almost like a wind
up on and like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Things would move and go around.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And then she had a stage. Oh my god, for
like puppets, no marionettes.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's like animatronics. Animatronics like chuck E cheese.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh god, I wish I would have been great. Okay,
so you guys.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Hint creepy for me. I love your mom, but this
room's a little creepy. I'm not totally feeling this.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
She's a collector. Okay, it was creepy as fuck. Yeah.
If people going friends, oh my god. I used to
fuck with my friends so bad because no, no, I'm
not kidding. And Brian and I.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Talk about this.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
So there if you go, if you go down the
bowling alley and you go right down the back like
where the gutter is right, what this.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Is like a trip? Okay, keep going.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay, So one time Brian Green and I and all
our friends like we were over and I showed him
but I used to do this with all my friends.
Like he wasn't scared. But like I've had some friends
that I have messed with bad. You would go down
the bowling alley to the back and there was like
you would push the wall it was seamless and it
would pop open and you would go and you could
go around the whole mechanics of the back of the
(32:53):
mono and I mean it was like, I don't know,
everything was down there. It was like the workings of
awe whoa okay, And that would take you all the
way around. It was dark and we weren't supposed to
go back there, sorry, mom. And you would come out
on another wall you would push seamless and it would
(33:14):
pop you into the doll museum, which is on the
other side of the house on the basement level.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Did you ever play Hide and go Seek in this house?
My gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But we had to stop because one time I had
a friend get lost. We can find her for two days,
and it was a problem. Her parents were furious. I
just made that up. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Hide and seek it was like impossible. I mean, if
you hand like a three day hide and Seek adventure,
I mean imagine escape rooms and immersive events.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Totally totally all right, you're in the okay, pop this call.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
We would scare friends, first of all, just the way
you're reacting. Almost every friend that I would bring over,
like girls in high.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
School, would be like they'd walk into the.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Doll museum and I'd be like adjusting the lights to
dim them perfectly, and they're like, this is creepy.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Sorry eighties children with Poultergeist, and it's just like the
clown will never leave.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Everyone was scared, terrified, but we my brother and I
would mess with them and like you would be like, oh, someone,
you know, one of us take you on a tour.
And then someone would pop through that door and go
around the back and go whoa. And then they'd be like, would.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Your mom go down there and kind of enjoy it
or you know, rearrange the dolls? Like would she go
down there? Or maybe like I don't know what was
happening in there, nothing a lot enough.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You would check to see if everything was dusted, but
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Sorry, all right, So then what else is down there?
What else is down in this sort of basement? Is
this where the wrapping room is? Oh no, the wrapping
room wasn't.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Down there now, So there were two wrapping rooms two two,
and then they one.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Wrapping like on the walls, like at the department stores
where you could go off that big thing and run,
or it was it regular roles.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh duh, okay, okay, now I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Wall.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, I mean she like put it in where it
was like seamless to the wall. You would have like
the beautiful did she do all of it?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So she did the.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wrapping, Wow, all of it?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Wow, it was her.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I mean it's d y, just a very elevated level.
I have a craft drawer, for instance. That's the extensive
extense crafty people.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
But like on Christmas, ravigantly wrapped in gifts that your
mom rapped.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And this was going back to when I was little,
so she always like wanted to have She was like,
one day, I'm gonna have like a dedicated gift wrapping room.
And she did, and she would have My mom so organized.
She's she's a Virgo double virgo, so she likes things
very organized.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I wish I had. I was going to say, just
like you, not at all.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I mean, I'm like the opposite, maybe because my life
was so organized growing up, I just was like book it.
He went the opposite. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's a theory.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Uh, but she would have everything, like one wall would
just be like Riven. One wall would just be all
little what we would think of now trinkets, charms, and
it would be like, yeah, it was every animal. It
would be like going into Michael's basically.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
But way better curated super sheet. Okay, so here's my question.
Was the house always organized like no one had clutter?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Like where was the clutter? No clutter in my brain?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And was your room always like clean and organized there?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah? WHOA, I wonder if like you're not my doing.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
No, I know, I wonder if like your clutter thing
is because you never had clutter before. Sorry to call
you out, but Tori's not. She's a little messy, guys,
Like she's a little messy messiest.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Fuck. Yeah, it's interesting when I go to other people's
houses or like a if we stay in an airbnb
and get super excited to like make everything pretty and
make it look great, like yeah, great right, But in
my own life, no, it doesn't happen even before kids. Yeah,
(37:37):
I don't know, I mean, but keep in mind, you guys,
I grew up that I'm not taught like, hey, when
you take something off, you put it here and fold
in like oh okay, okay, okay. From a young but yeah,
this is what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like I would take.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Something off or you know, and before it hit the
ground some ground it It was you know, it was
just I remember my best friend Jess. This is not
that long ago, you guys, this is like seven years ago.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Uh I was.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
She was like, oh, She's like, we grabbed the vacuum.
We had made a mess and it was like after
New Year's and she was like, there's confetti and I
was like okay. And she was sitting there and I
went and grabbed it and then I was like you.
She goes, what are you doing? And I go, I
don't know how to turn a vacuum on. She goes
what And she was laughing. She was dying.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
She's like, is this a joke? Right now?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I was like, it's not a joke. I'm so embarrassed.
I don't even want to say. And then she was like, no,
you know what, Actually it makes sense, like the way
you grew up, like we all get taught that we or.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
We would get like paid like a dollar to vacuum
the house, right, so like you're not going to get
paid a vacuum of fifty six.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Oh god, I mean it m'd be more than all area.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, in the in the eighties. In the eighties, I
think we had a vacuum and then you'd rake the rug.
I never did the raking, but like my mom can remember,
like you'd rake the rug.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I hear stories of this from friends, and I'm like,
I wanted that when I was young. I mean, we'll
do that in another episode. We got to talk the
whole episode about literally growing up, because I on summer
vacations would beg the staff that worked at my first
house growing up to just work for them and follow
(39:34):
them around all day and have lunch with them.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Wow, just taking this all.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, that's a whole different story. But yeah, that was
me growing up. Like I was like, you know, yeah, anyway,
it's next. Am I blowing your mind right now?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You're like, no, just to like the whole thing. The
whole thing is just like a lot. All right, let's
go from the basement upstairs right on the main level.
I'm sure there was like we don't need to get
the weeds, but there's like a living room, dining room. Now,
did you ever have spelling family dinners like that was
just the four of you, yes, but not in the
(40:13):
dining room in the where were room? And is that
attached to the kitchen or it was separate. So there
you enter the house from the side what you would
call it like the staff entrance, but that was our end.
It was like every wheel right, your car came through there.
We never came through the big heavy doors.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
In the front, and to the right was the guard's room.
To the left was guard staff like kitchen.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Now when you say sorry, when you say the guard's room,
like it's where the guard slept, or it's where the
guard is like in his little space and like twenty
monitors and is like making sure. Wow, okay, So the two.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Security guards twenty four hours a day, they took shifts.
No one slept there. What did they have guns?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Good question? Probably.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I believe they were all retired police officers, So I
believe they did. Which in my old house when I
was young, not all of them were armed. And there
would be uh college kids that would do it as
like a side job at night. Oh my friends and
I would sneak in there and.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I think they were cute.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, all right, so the.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Guard all right, I'm just the guards. I'm not gonna lie,
I'm just overwhelmed or in the dogs.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
The dogs always, I don't even know why had their
beds in the dogs in the guard's room. This is
from when we were young, so it just like carried on,
carried on, and so the dogs would be in their
beds in there. They had full roam of the house
but I don't know, and the guards would take them
mountain stuff. Then the staff like kitchen slash dining room
(41:59):
to the left where they would eat lunch and everything
and had brakes. Then this kind of moss hallway, and
then to the left would be the ginormous kitchen. It
was a huge two of like two refrigerators, two freezers
like all of that. Then there'd be the silver room,
(42:22):
silver country.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Oh my god, okay, which that stuff is a real
pain in the ass to polish. I would I don't.
I would never use silver because you have to hand
wash it and polish it a.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Trop Oh my gosh. I'm not sure how often. But
the butler would that would be like a full day
job to.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
We're gonna need it. We're gonna We're going to pause again,
the butler, So is there like a butler that answers
the door like and does all the the butt. I
need to know what this guy did. So did you
ever answer the front door or like the butler did?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Or did it? Uh? No, I just wanted to go there,
butler did the butler? Hey, once we got to the manor,
I feel like we didn't really have a skeler as much.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Did your dad have like a right hand man two
that would like start up the car or your dad
didn't drive right? Oh?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Big Renee that was his name, because my dad he
had two Renees in his life. Female Renee, who is
his assistant. He called his work wife like she was
with her before he even met my mom. That's how
they were together, went through from small to big with
him and then Renee. His driver was a retired chauffeur
(43:43):
for a service and he was his He drove us everywhere,
drove my dad to work and back. And yeah, did
your dad ever drive? No?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
What about your mom? Yes? Okay, wow, So your dad
had this driver and like this guy would come at
eight am or seven am or whatever and just be
there until he dropped him off at night and take
him around. Like if your dad was like I need
to go to a lunch.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It the you know right, damn must have driven at
some point. I mean I remember us on Saturdays, like
going to thrifties my dad and I.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yes, I remember to get ice cream. Oh my god?
So how many cars? How many cars were there? Like
was there a big in this staff entrance? Was there
a big garage and a lot of cars? Like what
kind of car did your dad drive around in? Like
a Rolls Royce Stretch, a Limo, Nomo?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
And and then I think like, yeah, we had the
white Limo in the eighties, Like growing up it was
the white long stretch eighties Limo. And then I feel
like my mom like transitioned him to like more modern
times and then he had like a town car in
Okay probably once we moved there. It was like a
town car.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
But you would like a family trip, like, say, y'all
are going because you didn't fly, so say you're all
going to like I don't know, somebody, I'm just making
it up. Did a driver drive you?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
And an RV? Oh my god, and an r V?
And how who else would come along?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
The nanny, the nanny, my dad's assistant, my mom's assistant,
Jerry and when we were young, who was like our
security guard slash like family, like you did everything with
us driver.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, so there was no like just the four of
you barely ever.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
No, we would go on smaller trips than there would
be I guess when I'm thinking like family vacations in RV,
I'm thinking Vegas because we would go there and stay
for like a month, and my dad would also film
and do all that so he could work and be
with us. But I guess when we went to like,
you know, if we were going to like San Diego
(45:54):
for the weekend or something like that, it wouldn't be
it would just be the four of us and maybe
a nanny.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Ya. Wow, all right, so week can we go back
to where were we? Yeah, we're gonna have to do
a part two.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
There's some hard ship, right, this is crazy stuff. I'm
not I'm remembering for the first time in twenty years.
This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, because we haven't even gotten to the bathrooms. I
haven't gotten to the bedrooms I have I don't know
what's in the attic, Like, there's so much. All right,
to end this first part of say It, Secrets of
the Manner, Secrets of the secrets.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I could do better?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
So well, how do I even like end this? It's like,
was it happy? There?
Speaker 2 (46:45):
There can of We're going to go.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Into so much more. I mean I have like did
you ever just get a tune, a fish sandwich and
go sit in a chaise lounge out by the pool?
I mean, was there a ping pong table?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I got?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I got endless questions. But just because this is overwhelming,
like was it fun? There? Was it fun?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well? We had so much fun, but like, I'll leave
you on this for this one fifty six thousand square
foot house, one hundred and twenty five ish rooms maybe more,
and the only rooms my core four person family ever
(47:29):
used all the time.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Was the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, my parents' office because my dad had his own office.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
There was your dad's office and then their office correct, wow.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Okay, And his office was the one he did all
his business meetings in and my mom had every show
and movie he ever did, leather bound scripts, walls, you know,
Florida ceiling covering, a big desk, you know, and he'd
have great meetings in there, and we watch all his
(48:02):
dailies in there that I loved going in there. But yeah,
so our family office the kitchen, our bedrooms, which my parents' bedroom,
my brother and I and and I guess like the
lower level, which just the bowling alley, the bar, and
(48:22):
the arcade, because we were scared of the doll museum too,
and that's like all we ever went in. Ever in
the bathroom, was there a family keep in mind. Oh wait,
I'll leave you on this fun one. My brother and I.
I think this is very like fancy European or something.
But each of our rooms had a guest room.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
What so like when you had a friend sleepover, they
could sleep in the room attached to your room.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Like it was like an alcove in the main hallway
and you go into this alcove and there'd be a
vested mule, and then you could go left within this
festibule and make left. You'd go into my room. Right,
you would go into my guest room. It's very fancy
that left in the bathroom or you shared the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
No, oh yeah, Tory's guests room had its own bathroom.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yes, because it was kind of in the theory of
like a two bedroom suiteet at a hotel. You have
the main room and then you have the other one.
Guess who slept in that guest bedroom.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Shannon, nobody. No everybody slept in them.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
We all piled in my bed and wanted to be
cozy and hang out and beat girls, and no one
ever slept in that room.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Did you ever have to make a bed or did
someone come and make your bed every day?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I never made a bed till I moved to my
first apartment, or if I slept at friends' houses, but
I was never allowed really, only like one once or
twice I would help them.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Wow, So I know, send more questions. But I'm also
gonna let people send us their questions for part two
Secrets of the Manor. So send us your d ms
or write them on you know, Instagram, so we can
for part two because like, we haven't even covered any
of the things I wanted to cover.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
We have to find these on eBay somewhere. I wish
I had kept one. There were pens that my mom
had made. Penza said this was stolen from the Manner
who she was being funny.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Very really get a president ever come to the Manor.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Oh, Prince Charles.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
My god, Okay, join us for part two of Secrets
of the Manor, coming soon, and you will hear about
Prince Charles's visit to the manner. You can't say it right.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
You say it secrets the manner. Oh, I'm getting better.
This is fun.
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