Health Is Wealth w/ Chaitra Bryant

In this episode, John is joined by his brilliant wife, Chaitra Bryant. The two discuss the importance of good health. There is much more to life than financial investment. Invest in your health! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome the Money and Wealth with John O'Bryant, a production
of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Yo Yo yo.
This is John O'Bryant and this is the better Have
Shacheer of Bryant. And this is a special segment of

(00:24):
Well anybody, you just want to see schachsfuff, so you
don't care what the segment is. What I'm saying is
a special segment.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
H of health and wealth.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
In many ways I've learned health is wealth. Shaterer's taught
me that this is going to be a love conversation
like about you, and you can learn a bit more
about Shadra. Behind every successful man is an exhausted woman
and I wear out her patients on a regular basis,

(00:55):
where she's always utterly patient with me, irrespective. And there's
so many things that I can say about her that
are great and amazing. But this is not about This
is not a love session about her, even though I'd
love to spend a session just loving on her. You
heard me talk about her before, but let me spend

(01:18):
some quality time explaining her through how she's loved me
so when we first met to this day, she's one
of two women whoever given me a check, my mother
and her, and it's the story. I lay in the
story out and I think the book up from nothing,

(01:39):
so you can read that there. And so I knew
she didn't have an agenda other than loving me. And
I knew that she was, you know, she just was.
She just cared about me. This is you know, when
I didn't have any money, I was broke, she helped
me out twenty years ago, not ever twenty five years
So I knew if she helped me when I didn't
have anything, she'd be there for me. Like Wise, when

(02:00):
I had a couple of dollars in my pocket, and
those things matter. It calms you in times when everything
else is frantic around you, unless you know, without a question,
somebody is absolutely for you. Fast forward, we got together
and after knowing each other for twenty almost twenty years,

(02:23):
and I invited her to go to Malli this is
my little my place of peace. And she said yes,
and then she said no. She's like, I'm concerned about
your blood pressure, Like your blood pressure seems a little high.
You need to go to the cardiologist. I'm like, I'll
be fine, I'm superman. She's like, no, you're if you

(02:45):
want to be my man, you need to get your
heart checked. So anyway, I go to the cardiologist and
she was right. My blood pressure was I mean, it
was almost it was like two hundred over one hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Not that bad, but it was it was it was like, yeah,
it was like one eighty over. It was in a
space of concern even though you were on blood pressure medicine.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
M was I a bloo pressure medicine. I don't think
I was taking it? Actually no, actually I'm almost pros right.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You weren't taking your medicine. I don't think I got
the medicine.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Is anything I needed any I didn't think I need
I needed any medicine. I thought I'm superman, I'm John O'Brien.
I don't need medicine. I look great, right, So anyway,
so we go to the cardiologies. Cardiology is like, yo, man,
you really are in great shape and you are sort
of weird. But even somebody who goes with your burns up,
your so kind of energy and you know, and you're
you know, you're getting exercise, airports on stuff. You still

(03:42):
black folks have you know, blood pressure issues, and your
blood pressure is normally high and that's all you do
is mention the word stroke, Like that's it could be
in strokes though, Right, So he's like, you gotta take
your medicine. And I thought it was like a symbol
of of weakness, that I've got to take some medicine.
It it was a real thing for me, like because
taking the medicine meant that I wasn't perfect. That it

(04:04):
was a whole other thing about accepting that perfection didn't exist.
Just the best you can do. That's what one of
my quotes I love is, don't let the perfect be
the death of the good. Like even your iPhone sixteen,
if you have one of those, they're already issuing a
software that's almost an iPhone nineteen software. The phone just
came out. They've already you know, sixteen, sixteen, five, seventeen,

(04:25):
seventeen five, eighteen eighteen five, because they're constantly upgrading it
because there's glitches. No matter what you do, you can
always improve upon it, and they're always be imperfect. So
I had to accept that God made me perfect in sight,
but I was imperfect in my plight and how I
had operated. Because we're human, we live in this world
with toxins all around us or whatever. So I had

(04:46):
to get over the fact that I needed to take medicine.
So I got that. We went to Maloi. She finally
allowed us to go on the plane go to Malai.
Has a great time. And normally I go to Mali
and you know, two or three weeks of being in
this beautiful place, you know, any any flab or whatever
on me. I'm on a bike every day or whatever.
But this time the flab wouldn't go away, and I

(05:07):
don't I'm vain. So I had handles here. I'm like,
oh no, I'm not doing that. That's not happening. So
she didn't say a word. This is when you got
the power, you don't need to use it. She didn't
say a word. So we get back from MAUI had
a great time, and I was in New York City.
I remember it was like two in the morning. I
was walking across the street to get some thumbs. I

(05:27):
was popping this pepton of this moment thumbs, and so
she finally I'm walking across the street is two in
the morning, from the hotel. She's like, are you done? Like,
are you ready for this conversation? Well, what she's like
you need to cleanse. Like, you know, I can't talk
you into this. You're hardheaded, your double alpha, but are

(05:48):
if you're ready for a real conversation, like you just
gotta get this. She taught me a couple of things
that just blew my mind. One seventy five percent of
all disease lives on inflammation. To get that right, And
you're inflamed. You're inflamed because you're eating a lot of
processed food and your lungs. Your body is not prepared,
it is not designed to process processed food. Your body's

(06:12):
designed for natural you know, food from the earth, and
so on and so forth. And what she said made
all the sense in the world to me. And she says, well,
you can't get this because it's not fat. This is
not fat. You're inflamed and you can't work that off.
You've got to have to cleanse it out of your body.
And so I'm like, okay, I'm too vain, Like I
can't have this this stuff here. So what do I
have to do? So I went on a cleanse. I

(06:33):
think she suggested a whimp cleanse for like five days.
I did it for you know, almost two weeks. I
was very proud of myself. And it wasn't bad. It
was okay. So one thing she did on this trip
to Maue, she blew my mind. Well, my thing about
being I call it a flexitarian. She might call it

(06:56):
a pescatarian, or you might call it a vegetarian or
what's the other onegetarian. Then there's vegan, all these different
elements of cleansing vegan, Rod McGrew. My dear friend is
a vegan, I believe. So I'm like, this stuff is nasty.
I'm not eating a nasty Don't put anohing nasty in

(07:16):
my mouth if you want me to do this. So,
brothers watching this, can you relate to what I'm saying?
So she gives me a chocolate chip cookie handmade in Mali.
I'm like, does she realize what she just did? Like,
I'm not gonna tell her. Did she just gave me
like like chocolate gold right, And so this is toxin

(07:38):
on steroids. So I'm eating this, you know, before she
figures it out. Well, she's given me and she doesn't
say a word. I'm like, I mean, I've eaten the
whole box. Play do these things? Shay, you're cool with this? Yeah, yeah,
perfectly fine with us. Why and then she shows me
the ingredients or the box. It's a vegan cookie. I

(07:59):
mean it was delicious. Second thing I learned was I
love coffee and I used to put white sugar in
h in the coffee. I don't drink, I'll do drugs.
I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't, you know, don't.
I don't have an alcohol problem. I don't have drug problem.
I don't smoke. But but I would, you know, I
love coffee and i'd put this white sugar and she would.
She explained to me that that's like poison and it's

(08:23):
and so she explained to me, like this is the
worst thing in the world sugar. And I tried brown
sugar and I was like, this is pretty cool. But
you know, she gave me this creamer. Do you remember
the name of it? And natural creamer? Do we know
that we do? We say that the brand like we came.
Remember the brand anyway if you want, if you really
interested in the comment, well, we don't want to promote somebody

(08:44):
some We don't mind promoting it. Actually a good brand.
But I can't remember the moment, but we use this creamer,
all natural it replaced sugar and cream delicious, like I
mean completely natural. So over and over again, all of
my biases got remote when we go to Maui or
we go to Turks and tacos where we literally pack
in the in the in the luggage the just cause

(09:06):
they don't have it there. So that's a couple of stories.
And my blood pressure came down naturally based on what
she was telling me to do. And now for a
long time, the longest time, I took half a peal
and the goal is to sort of work me off
of that. If I'm on a high stress period. Uh,
she says, it talls me on tour. If I'm on tour,
then she might encourage me to take the full pill
for a period of time because I'm just depleted, not

(09:29):
sleeping well all the kind of stuff. We're gonna get
to the power sleep in a minute. So these are
a couple times where you know, she really maybe just
saved my life. Like literally that blood pressure think can
literally not take you out.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know. I feel that we just don't go to
the doctor enough.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
And when we when we get the simple signs, like
if there is a number that's off, it's called integrative
care and we just need.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
To catch it then.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
And you know, I know, I stay on John about
his blood pressure, but I have the same problem. And
that's actually what birthed me into doing wellness and helping
other people learn about blood pressure and how to naturally
work your way into eating better and living a healthier
lifestyle from that, because I just had really bad side

(10:16):
effects from some of the medication. And I was much
younger when I got diagnosed with high blood pressure, and
I just struggled with the medication. But I took the
medication because my blood pressure was high and I didn't
want to have a heart attack, and so I worked
integratedly with my doctor and it took me two years.

(10:37):
It didn't happen overnight. And that's really what like birthed
me being able to like help others. You're in your twenties, right,
I was in my twenties and I was on three D.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
She thought she was bulletproof too, right. When I tell
you that this was a vipre bracelet girl. I mean
she would go to three events where events a night
and be like, okay, what else, this is only midnight?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
One of the more I didn't even know a lot
of people when they get diagnosed with high blood pressure,
they don't even know.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
You don't you don't know you have high blood pressure.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
So, you know, I was just going for my my
yearly regular blood my yearly regular wellness checkup, and they're.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Like, wait a minute, their pressure is really high. Do
you feel dizzy?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And she was twenty no, you know, and so they're like, oh,
we're going to put you on some medication. And I
was like okay, And of course I took the medication.
But because I studied nutrition and or biology and she's.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Got a degree in nutrition really and degree and degree
in fashion, and you know, she's like a triple threat.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
But but I had high blood pressure and I was
able to work my way off of it, and it
took me two years, and I just am able to
kind of like help others guide them along.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And so you've done You've done a good job. He's
done a nice job.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Not that and the most recent threat, so you know,
before we start talking about you and about me, the
most recent threat, uh, you know, one of the things
that men get is prostate cancer and all this stuff
and colon cancer whatever. And after I went through these
yearly uh, I don't want to get too graphic here,

(12:15):
but I'd go to a yearly physical and they would
check you out for prostate cancer. He brother knows what
I'm talking about. Brother, don't fear it. Just go just
go do it. We know you're a real man. Yes, yes, yes,
but I'm just being real, like I had to get
used to the whole situation. So anyway, then now that
so now that was enough. Now they tell me I

(12:36):
need to go to get a colin Aska. I've heard
all kind of stories about that, and uh and let
me just tell you, the stories are overblown. I went out,
you got the preparation, Oh my god, and then you
go to the thing. It's all over blown. The preparation
is nothing. You go to the to get the colonoscopy,
they knock you out. It's nothing. And you walk out

(12:59):
and you'll like okay when you're starting like no, it's
over and it's like nothing. And here's the greatest, the
great part. If you're clean. And I was clean, Uh no,
pun intended. H you're good for ten years. You don't
wan to go back for ten years? Like yeah, So
I did a video. I was sort of loopy. They
gave me some kind of drugs I would do drugs.

(13:20):
I was gone, I was loopy. Shade was in the
vand with me and I went the way home, and
I was like, brothers, you gotta go do this. Uh.
And if you if you like being relaxed, then then
whatever they given you will do that too. It's a
natural high, you know, a natural high. What is permitted
high anyway? So I've checked all the boxes and I can.

(13:43):
I can tell you that working out every day a
little bit, and staying in shape and eating right. The
food is good actually, and I make sure every time
I eat something. If I'm gonna eat beef, it's farm raised.
Whenever I can. I try to eat fish times a week.
Something green on my plate, something and a little bit

(14:03):
of starch that she doesn't adver get the starch I do,
but she wants something green on your plate. Salad won't
kill your brothers. Okay. So let's get into this because
she's also the chairwoman of the National Minority Health Association.

(14:27):
She has a company called Welder's three sixty. If you
come to the whole little form, you've seen the Welder's
three sixty boots, if you want to call her that.
At the form and she does free wellness checkups. This
last time they were sold out. I who would call
her that there was just no appointments available. I try
to get an appointment. I couldn't. I was like a hell,
I'm the chairman and founder and that's my wife. That

(14:47):
like we going to see her at home because there's
no appointments here. Brothers, it's a couple sponsors were upsets
they couldn't get in. It was very very popular. Okay,
so black wealth gaps. None of that matters if you
aren't here to enjoy it. So let's have some real
talk conversation.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Basically able to be able to do to enjoy it, right, Well, yeah, yeah,
yeah capacity.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
So let's but let's let's deal with you ain't here first.
So if you live in a in a five hundred
credit score neighborhood, you lived to sixty one years of age.
I have a theory about that. I think you think.
I think you're the surviving mindset. I think you're stressed out.
I think you're I think you're depressed. I think that
your body just wears down, no different than if you're
three hundred and fifty pounds. There's no there's no three

(15:36):
hundredifty pounds eighty year olds, because your body wasn't designed
to handle three hund fifty pounds. Your knees, your lungs, nothing,
and so you just your body gives out. Think about that.
There are no three hundre fifty pound eighty year olds.
Think about that. So likewise, you know, if you're not
human beings having a spiritual experience or spiritual beings having
a human experience, it makes sense that you in a

(15:58):
seven hundred credit square to eighty one, fifteen minutes away
in a fire recrest coordinator, and you lived at sixty
one before you get sold security, you've dropped dead. Let's
talk about people who've actually made a lot of money
and unfortunately health took them out. Chadwick Boseman, forty three
years of age, brilliant brother. I mean, I just loved

(16:19):
the movies and loved his character. Didn't a chance to
meet him, but what I know about him amazing. Didn't
share his colon cancer diagnosis publicly. The importance of screening
for black men is omnipotent. We've been talking about that.
Just get screened on a regular basis and don't and
no shame in this game right and DMX he was

(16:40):
fifty years old. Addiction and trauma untreated. Conversations of mental
health and generational pain are really important. My brother Charlemagne
that God is really passionate about mental health and has
a mental health foundation. We've got to start talking about
our mindset and being cool about the fact that we're

(17:01):
not cool. Or I put another way, if you're black
in America and don't think you're a little crazy, you're
probably crazy. This world will drive you nuts. Just acknowledge it. Right.
Heavy d forty four years of age, died a pulmonary
of a pulmonary embolism, signs of sedentary lifestyle and post

(17:21):
weight loss health management. Andre Heral, fifty nine years of age.
I'm fifty nine heart failure. I mean a music mogul
who helped shape the culture, yet neglected self care. Maybe
so Shayha might add. Fame and money do not protect
you from preventable diseases and death. In some cases, that

(17:43):
make you more vulnerable because you think maybe that you
are you think that it doesn't apply to you. Think
about Prince whatever he was dealing with, you know, nobody
called it around him. There's so many examples of this
Shanna will have these conversations about We'll hear some icon

(18:04):
or somebody she knows in their forties or fifties dropped
in and she's like, this is and it just frustrates
her because she thinks that with a little bit of
self care, people loving on them like she's loved on me,
they'd still be around and have children, grandchildren, etc. What's
your opinion about that?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Also, you know, you don't want to have kidney failure,
which leads to kidney dialysis, which leads to possible amputation,
which means you're.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Not going to be able to live your best life.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
And I know dropping dead is one thing, but also
not feeling your best is another. So it's very hard
to function and build wealth and thrive and do all
the things and have joy and play with your kids
and go on vacations or whatever your pleasure is.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It's very hard to do that.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
And when you don't feel good, and it's very hard
to work at your maximum human capacity, when you know
you have some type of illness or even just are sluggish.
I mean, it's I mean, we're deep diving into disease
right now, but we're really talking about mindfulness and wellness
and taking care of yourself and nurturing yourself and putting

(19:20):
yourself first in terms of self love and self care
and nurturing. And I think that that's the real conversation,
the real route for my space is in order for
you to be able to do and at your your
maximum potential and give, you've got to be able to
fill your own cup with self care and prevention and

(19:43):
remove a shame.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, and like.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know, we can sit here and say, I'm sure
I don't know if people would think, oh, you guys
have had high blood pressure, or oh you guys have
had to watch your sugar.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Intake or yes, yesterday this morning.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, Yeah, we have to watch everything that we
do and make it a priority to take care of
ourselves so that you know we're able to to perform
and deliver, you know, the best, our best selves to
to helping others.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And so by the way, look at that that that
By the way, this was not conscious, but I'd noticed
it as I was doing it. I don't hurt. I'm
doing this whenever I've got a moment. I'm this is stretching.
So I'm sitting here senatory, sedatary, but I'm giving myself
a little bit of a stretch. Right. You can do
this from where you're sitting, right. I do this. I
stretch every day every you know, every morning, I do

(20:38):
a fifty minute workout when I wake up. Push ups,
set ups, squats, just your boy. Got to keep your
body moving. If I can get there's a gym where
I'm staying, with the hotel whatever, I go to the
gym when I can, when I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Have I mean, hydration is every.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Hydration water, water, bottle water, water, Yeah, water, water, water,
more water, and and and.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Things that that. You have to find your own rhythm,
add things, your own lifestyle that works for you, that
doesn't stress you out and becomes like a daily routine
that makes you feel better, not something that you know
adds more stress to your life. You have to figure
out your steps like that works just for you.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Let me let me say something. She's much nicer than me.
If you if you figure this out, I'm the egle.
She is a butterfly. I'm the hard No, she's the love.
I'm the you know. Yeah, once you people talk to her,
they forget I'm in the room. But let me just
say this, like straight up wellness is a radical act

(21:37):
of black love self black love for black people. And
you've been hoodwinked, you've been bamboozled, you've been tricked, you've
been fooled. This is why you're starting off on the
bad foot. When you see black people in our neighborhoods,
a lot of them are are large. But it's not
that they're not. In my opinion, they're not overweight. They're obese.

(21:59):
But I think you're in flight. This is just my philosophy.
I think a lot of black people are inflamed, like literally,
just like right, and I think it's yes, stress and
all that stuff. It's environmental, but it's also a slave diet. Yeah,
I said it. Uh that in the slavery period, the man,
the plantation owner threw the crappiest food out the back
door as a sign of disrespect. Don't trust me on this,

(22:22):
do your own research. And it was and we we
we turned it. Black folk's been doing so much with
so little for so long. We can almost do anything
with nothing. Now. I'm not trying to put the soul
food restaurants out of business. So don't you Okay, slow down, Okay,
you give an excuse me before we explain it. So
I love, I love sof I eat soufood, just don't

(22:43):
just don't do it three times a day every day.
So they threw this stuff out the back door, and
we turn it into delicacies, grits, hog malls, pig feet
of ribs, fried chicken. I mean, why do we do
salt which is a big contributor to uh is it
blood pressure? But we do salt on that, on that

(23:06):
that that food. Why because it was out in the
heat and and one way you preserve food is to
salt it up. Well, that salt over generations. I think
it's seeped into our whole DNA. I mean we're talking about,
you know, talk about two hundred and seventy years of
slavery and then one hundred years of Jim Crow. It's
a long time to have things embedded in your in
your culture, in your in your in your spirit. So

(23:28):
I think that just we got used to this food.
We eat it as you know, we ate it because
we had to. Then we ate it because we liked it,
and because I think it became almost a companion, a
comfort food, and we have got to and then combine
that with fast food and poor, poor neighborhoods with a
lot of it. It's fast but not food. She's gonna
teach me this. Also, I try to eat fast food

(23:53):
when I have no other choice. Uh, some fast foods
are better than others. I do, like McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
French fries and now fast food restaurants, they also have healthy,
healthy choices, like so much do.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Certain things. It's the way you prepare it.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
So if you're going to have soul food, which I
like soul food myself too, and it's just the way
you prepare it. You know, be mindful about the salt
and the sugar. You can still have healthy colored greens.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
And don't you're a healthy salt that you put on potatoes.
There's a healthier salt salt.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Just be mindful about the way that you prepare you know,
fried chicken, Bake the chicken instead of fry it or
god or air fry it. Just you know, it's really
about a healthier alternative to add into your daily experience,
not just don't.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
If you you know, if you're going to go through
a fast food.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Restaurant, then try to make the healthiest decision of what's when.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
You go through it.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, the least bad option. Here's a weird thing. When
I eat something that I think I want now because
she's not around something really bad for me, my body's like,
it's so clean now that it rejects it. Like I

(25:22):
can eat I used to be to eat eight donuts,
you know, I can't get through one before my body'
is like, oh that was good. Oh no, that's really bad.
That's just one example. But the stuff that used to
turn me on turns me off now, Like my body
just does just reject it. Her body is very sensitive.
Like if she eats the wrong thing, she's she's just

(25:44):
not Her body is not a happy camper. It rejects it.
She's sure body is very clean and I respect that actually,
and as a result of that's kept her timeless. I
dare you to guess. So I think we've gotta be got.
We've got to be concerned about not just financial wealth,

(26:05):
but physical health. And there are some tips and tricks
that Schaitra has and hopefully she will give you some
before we end this podcast. But you know, let's acknowledge
some things. It's stressful being black. Twenty four to seven.
It's like my boy, my brother CEO of Walmart Dougrick

(26:25):
Millan after George Floyd got murdered, he invited me to
a diversity session. I'm like, Doug, I'm black, Like I
think I get it. He's like, just trust me, these
are just too many favors. Just come maybe educate everybody else.
I mean we were in talks and kikos and I
business as a favorite to Doug. And by the way,

(26:46):
they're still fully committed to underserved communities. Of the largest
employer of black people in the country, we just so
you know, three thousand that just by the way, look
at the data. They're still employing people, contracting the whole thing.
They just doesn't want to be in political football. So anyway,
so Ducks, who grew up in Walmart was a box boy,
I mean, like a stocking shelves and now he's CEO. Anyway,

(27:07):
he he gets me to go to this session and
I'm hooked. Like the session was incredible. I learned so much.
But the line I remember, if you're white, how often
do you think about being white? Respondents on the video
call almost never. Why would you if you're black? How

(27:29):
often do you think about being black? All the time?
Every day? The last five minutes. You go to a store,
you go, you know, you get put over by the police.
You see the police. You know, you're thinking about how
you present yourself in a meeting. You realize that you
got to be twice as smart, twice as intelligent, twice
as well addressed, get up twice as early, a stap,

(27:49):
twice as late, be twice as good because you're going
to be judge and get half of the credit. That's stressful.
You know. She tells me the plight of black women
all the time, and you know it must be really
stressful to be a black woman. But I know what
it's like being a black man, and the haters have
made me better, made me better. But I do realize

(28:10):
how many years I went around what I call my
my rear end tight, like I was just trying to
be perfect and it was, you know, I realized there
was no perfect now, But I mean I was just
overdoing everything and it was it was damaging my health.
And so it is, let's just acknowledge that if you're
black and you're looking at this one's no one's giving
you a lecture, no one's talking down to you. We
acknowledge it is if you're black. You borre on probation

(28:33):
in America. Yeah, me twice, you know, twice as good
and that may not be good enough. But we want
you to love yourself first, because I think that a
lot of black people are depressed. And if I don't
like me, I'm not gonna like you. If I don't
feel good about me, I'm not gonna feel good about you.
If I don't respect me, don't expect me to respect you.
If I don't love me, I don't have a clue

(28:54):
how to love you. Look at her, she clearly loves herself. Right.
She's not in love with herself. She knows that there
are many faults, but she loves herself, which which allows
her to love others. Right. So you can't give what
you don't have. So I want you to learn to
love yourself. And I want you to have a routine
that is mental, psychological, and physical. What are some of

(29:16):
the things. What are the key and sleep, movement, hydration,
regular checkups? What is some of the things.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
The first thing is to if you can get yourself
to a wellness checkup. If you've put it off, don't
put it off any longer. Get a group.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Together and hold each other accountable. That's what we do.
My girlfriends and I.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
We I have a tribe and we keep each other
accountable because as nurtures, we naturally have a tendency not
to do what we were supposed to do. And you know,
at the top of the year, we hold each other accountable.
And I will say even I will ignore it sometime,

(29:58):
you know, like they'll pay Okay, ladies, wellness checks time.
Who hasn't been you know, And I'm like, am I
the last one that hasn't gone?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
But also, you guys work out together. Yeah, you guys
were walking in the morning and running in the morning,
six or seven in the morning, some crazy thing.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
But it works because you know it's because you know,
if to get the kids off to school and you know,
so we you have to carve out a time. But
if you have someone that does it with you, and
you find something fun to do together, then you'll continue
to do it.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
So let me tell you. Let me tell you a
shape of a hack that she took too far. She
told me that seventy percent of of work of staying
in good shape. People look at her like, my god,
how do you how do you do this? You look great? Right?
She told me, seventy percent of this is what you
put in your mouth is what you eat, well thirty

(30:50):
percents working out or something like that. Yeah, because she
lived in Manhattan for so long, she she would walk
around with three is pumps all through Manhattan with a
skirt and move a lot. We move a lot, so
you're now actually in motion. So she just took that
for granted. And uh, well she moved to Atlanta and
it's not a city you walk around it, see you
drive it.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I have to really like make an effort.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, so she she realized she wasn't working out, so
she wasn't doing the thirty percent. So she now she's
on that. So even she falls off, I fall off
like you're human.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I fall off like every week.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Not that much.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
But yeh yeah, you know we're just saying that, just
cut yourself a break. But but my suggestion is too
and she's in bed by midnight, so sleep sleep is
she will walk, she will go to sleep on you
in the mid sentence like midnight is, oh, she's she's

(31:44):
committed to Well, it took me a long time.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
It took me a long time to train myself to
get proper amount of sleep, and I would it would
it would be hard for me to get through the
days because I need my brain. And so if I
don't get enough adequate amount of sleep, I can not
full fully give. You know, if I'm health coaching or
doing something for the community or taking care of somebody,

(32:08):
I just I need to be able to give my
full self and just for me, I need that amount
of sleep in order to be able to fully function.
And once I realized I'm better if I get that
amount of sleep, I became more disciplined about it. And
then make sure you tell everyone around you that I

(32:28):
have to go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
You know, you can be all jacked up and looking
crazy tomorrow, but I'm not going to be. Charity starts
at home. Bye, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well. When you get a support structure around you, that helps.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
So by the way, a given a giver, exotic a
given or taker, Narati a taker or taker, psychotic. Hello,
watch watch your environment. You hang around nine bro people,
you'll be the tenth. You hang around nine unhealthy people,
you'll be the tenth. Like that's what she's saying. Watch
you hang around because you'll model what.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
You see, which also you can encourage each other as well.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
That's a nice way for her. So you can toxicity
out of your life and be positive. Each other's nice
to me.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
But if you start something, then other people might enjoy
it as well, or find groups of Like I like
to roller skate, So if you want to, you know,
I thought, find the hobby that you like that's active
and do it together, you know, go to you know,
go for a walk. I know, like we live in Atlanta,

(33:29):
and I know we all love to walk the belt
line and we don't even know, we don't even realize
that how far we walked, because it's entertaining things on
the way, and you know people, and you know, it's
nice outside.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
And but but if you don't, if you cannot do
all of that, just simply find.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Time for yourself in the morning, whether it's five to
ten minutes, breathing exercises, you can, you can. There's every
app on the phone these days helps you. It's really
you know, meditation.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I always tell people just start with one thing and
then once you get that one thing master, then start
with the next.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Thing and get crazy people out your life. You get
the toxicity. Okay, that's a different that's a.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Different toxicity matters. Maybe we'll come back and talk about exercise.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Your positivity. That's that's her. Look at that smile. That
can be not that can be exercise. She's just positive.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Try to stay positive. Start with affirmations.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
When I'm in a bad mood or something I'm not
feeling my best, then I just go to like a
positive affirmation.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
What is it you had? You had a CEO on
the Run program? Yes, what are some things you tell
there's some CEOs watching now or CEOs run? What would
you tell you.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
You have team no sleep exactly? You know CEOs on
the Run.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
You.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I love working with CEOs because CEOs are so disciplined.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
And so all you have to do is tell you, guys,
like three things to do and then you guys do it. Hydration,
find a way to exercise, and do a food journal
of what you're eating, so you know, and then you
could pick out what you did good and what you
did bad and then switch it up.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, it's so easy, like.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
For you guys, like because the way you're follow you
guys don't want to think you're structured. You don't want
to have any more put on you, but you just
want to have somebody tell you the most positive thing
to do for your own body, and then.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Tell me it's not nasty. You tell me I may
live longer, and I'm not going to be increpit my
old age. You got my attention. And she she turned
me on this thynk called ag one. It's crazy. She
turned me on toto it. Then she doesn't drink it
because she doesn't like to taste of it, but she
does something else. But a g one is like seventy
five essential vitamins, nutrients, probiotics. I know what this stuff,

(36:10):
all this stuff was, but I know now, and it's
everything you need in one little packet. I poured into
some cold water. Don't use warm water or lukewarm. You
won't like it. But the cold water, it tastes great.
And I drink that every morning without fail, every morning.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
And you'd make make because you were supposed to take
a vitamin.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, I didn't like vitamins.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
So you've but you found what worked.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
For you, right right? Yeah, fine, what works for you?
And do that? So I found that that that really
worked for me, and something else worked for Chatrus. She didn't,
you know, And then I now I pour put all
kind of little drops in the in the ag one
thing I'm now adding, I'm like the creaking cocktails. I'm
not gonna what's that last thing I'm doing? Uh sorisa
which does think gut health and something else. And so

(36:59):
I'm a hook. The five big killers of Black America,
heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabees, kidney disease, all linked to lifestyle.
Speak to that, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Most of it is built around, you know, disease of
the body.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
And that's the word diseases. Diseasey, that's a word. Say
that again, disease. A lot of diseases, dis ease, that's
a word.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So a lot of it begins.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's why you keep a lot of emotional toxicity out
out of your environment because it's diase.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
This ease. Your body is not at ease, you know.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And and it starts around visceral fat and inflammation. As
we discussed what shows up in viceral f and that's
how and you know, a lot of it is around obesity.
We have an obesity epidemic here in America. And if
we if you can, you know, get a hold of

(38:10):
your obesity level, usually that helps not have disease. And
that's very controversial statement I'm saying right now, so controversial
real talk.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Look, you're people know that, people know that you've come
to my podcast is about and by the way, thanks
for helping this podcast be top one hundred in business
in the country and top.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
But disease cannot live on in an alkaline system. And so.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, you cut me off when I was talking hello,
You may forget what the heck I was saying. I
was saying thank you, and I was actually making a point.
H No, people know that this is straight talk, and
they know that I don't use twenty words or two
will do before we get back to the alkaline system.
Just to sort of underscore what she's saying, how important

(39:01):
you know self care is and being your own wellness
center in your life A lot of so. So a
thirty economy give or take, is healthcare. A third, give
or take, about seventy percent of that is spending the
last quartile of your life. So the doctor, the medical
profession is throwing all this stuff at you when your

(39:24):
body's failing to try to keep you alive because you
want to stay alive. It happened to my mother, it
happened to my daddy, had my dad hooked up to
a million dollars worth of machines when he was dying.
It was clear either as the doctor said, what do
you want to do? John, I'm like, what are you asking?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Me?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Like, well, you're the you know, the one that's in
charged here and either your you know. What became clear
to me was I said the doctor, you're playing God.
He says, no, I'm not playing God. You are, it's
not because you got to decide. You know, what we
do is that your dad's we're keeping your dad's body
alive with a machine. And it was it was Cedar
sign of medical center here in La actually, and I

(40:00):
remember it hit me either my dad's body is given up.
He's given up, or God's called him. But but this
physical party is over, and so we had to make
peace with that. But I don't know how long you
go and live, but I know, I dang sure know
you're gonna die. It's not a mystery. So you've got
to prepare lift And I've been telling my dad to
do certain things and he ignored me as far as
far as his wellness is concerned. My mother was a

(40:21):
little better, She was a lot better, But I wish
you would have done more stuff for herself, not just
for her children. As far as her wellness is concerned,
she ate well, but she didn't exercise as much as
I thought she should have. I think she could have
extended her wellness. But once you start falling and things
start breaking, that can become a thing.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Right and your mindset.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Remember they always say, you know your mind your body.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Here's your mind your body. Here's what your.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Mind tells it, yes and yes, and it's what you
And when we say it's what you don't know that
you don't know, you told me this. That applies to
the medical profession as well. So I realized when I
was on one of my Mali trips, I was having
problems with my back. It was so bad. This is
going back twenty years now. My back thing was so bad.

(41:13):
I had to lay down on the on the ground
to get to a phone call. I'm like, okay, I'm
thirty years old and I'm done, Like I'm going to
have I'm, you know, be immobilized. I went to Maui
and went to a chiropractor and he showed me that
my one leg was shorter than the other. You heard
this thing, said all one legs shorter than the other.
This is where you are. No, they gave me an
adjustment and it equalized my legs. I was out of alignment.

(41:38):
But then it went back. And so anyway, before this,
they're like, oh, you need to get a lift in
your shoe. So I paid back. Then it was a
thousand dollars to get a custom lift made for my shoe.
Now you can go get over forty bucks from you
know whatever store, doctor shows whatever. So anyway, I did that,
but then that worked for six months. Then the pain
came back. I'm like, okay, wait, I went back to

(41:59):
so you tell me I got it shorter than short, Like, okay,
this is a this is some kind of a racket.
So I went and found a front roller, a rumble roller,
and I started rolling that on the muscles, not my back,
but my glute muscles, my ssiatic around, my ssiatic nerve
and all this stuff, and I found the pain went

(42:19):
away over time. It was painful to get down in
deep into that, but the pain in my back went away.
I found it was something called Fasha tissue. So so
this doctor was trying to get Ambassada to get a
knee surgery and black doctor, good guy, and he was like,
you should tell him Bastian and let me do knee
surgery on him. I said, well, you know, I talked

(42:39):
about it. He doesn't really really interested in that, but whatever.
But then he started complaining about his back and I said, well,
this is a medical doctor, this is a surgeon shapefe.
I said, well, maybe it's the fasher tissue and shatrau.
He said, what's that? So I came home and I
mentioned that the shapra and we're like, well, yeah, these
doctors are not trained in a lie. They're trained on cadavers,

(43:02):
on dead tissue. Then I trained on live tissues, and
I trained. This is why I respect her so much.
Listen to me now, this is that this is a
forty minute forty three. If you didn't listen to anything ted, everybody,
go to minute forty three. The medical doctors are trained
on dead tissue. I respected wellness when I learned that

(43:23):
that that the thing that gave me relief was the
live tissue being relieved, and that's that fosteril tissue that
lays next to the bone. It's so deep your messuse
can't get down into that. You need to get down there.
In a non invasive way, and that this phone roller
did it for me and my life, which transformed. My
back pain went away, and for a long time time

(43:45):
I traveled with a NAB phone roller with me, and
now I don't have any back pain at all. I
actually feel better now that I did when I was
twenty five. But a lot of this is this wellness stuff,
that these good habits that Shape was talking about. But
even medical doctors, first of all, they're in se devised.
Again nothing, I'm not saying this is a racket or anything.
I'm saying they were trained to cut. A surgeon's trained.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
They're very trained and very good in their specialty.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Right, Yeah, it was a nicer way of saying what
I said. I mean, her dad's a noted legendary even pharmacist.
I mean, so you know it's natural for everything to
be a pill, because what do black people want to
do or not just anybody I need, I'm in pain,
make this go away if all you do is appeal
the pain of boy temporarily, but you've got a salt

(44:33):
what was underneath that? Otherwise you get addicted maybe to
the pill, or the pills won't be enough or whatever,
or the alcohol whatever, that they are a pain reliever.
So her dad fishes now and has found and plays golf,
and that you know, has made his energy come up
in his he's you know, he feels better about himself.

(44:55):
Has nothing to do with a medical situation per se.
But it all and nature in.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Nature, right, it's medicinal.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
So do you agree with what do you disagree with
what I said about the fact that all doctors what
we doctors are trained, as you said, they have a specialty.
If you're if you're a surgeon, you're trained to cut.
And so it's not their fault that that's what they're
trained to do. But they can't get another Porsche or
another house. They're not they're not doing surgery. So they
so there if you want the pain to go away,

(45:25):
they're gonna cut. But that doesn't mean that that's the
only solution to your problem.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
There's definitely integrative care.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Can you explain what integrative care?

Speaker 3 (45:33):
If you you know, if you have to take medication,
that's the first solution. And we're happy that medicine does.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Exist, like blood pressure, yes, like blood.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Pressure medicine and then you integrate it, so you integrate
it with a healthier lifestyle, and you work, and you
work into a space where hopefully maybe you can get
off the medication, and if you can't, then you won't
have to add another pill on top of it.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
It keep you steady.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
So that's really the goal of like you know, bioindividuality
and integrative care, just finding your own pace of what's
going to make your body work and function at its
best capacity. So if you have to take the high
blood pressure pill because your body just you haven't figured
out a way to totally come off the medication.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
But a lot of.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Times, you know, if you start one medicine and you
continue it, you usually the second one gets added or
the third one gets added.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
That's really what you want to prevent.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
And altogether being able to work your way all the
way off of it would be great.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
But if that doesn't happen, you just don't.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Want to progress any further because it could lead to
kidney failure or other things, other problems. So that's really
what integrative care is about. I'm for both sides because
I know that if I don't feel good, I definitely
want the doctor who has the ultimate knowledge of what
is happening in your body. And then you have the

(47:00):
other side of holistic care, which is why did what
caused it? And usually it took years for something to
cause it, and so whatever however along whatever you were
doing that took that added to the cause. It's going
to take some time probably to work its way back out.

(47:21):
So you have to give yourself time to let your system.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Work it back out and be consistent and be consistent.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, are there on the on the National Minority Health
uh National Minority Health Association website? Are there tips and tricks? There?
Are there tips for people they go to the website?
Are their tools? Are really asking? Is it is a
website a resourceing people, a starting point for health and lowness?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
There's three There's three things that we mainly focus on
uh loupis diabetes and cares, aching are and healthy living
for all. So there's those are our four components of
what we really are focused on right now. Of course

(48:11):
we were focused on COVID vaccinations, but that doesn't give
healthy tips. Where you'll find the healthy tips are through
the Diabetic Diabetic Portal, the kit and then you'll get
some information for caregiving is very big and what we
serve because we have to help caregivers take care of

(48:32):
themselves while they're taking care of others, and also have
resources on where to go to find appropriate care resources.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
What's his news campaign that you started living healthy? Living?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Health is for everybody?

Speaker 1 (48:47):
What's that? In short?

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Health is for everybody?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
You dummy? You understand? She's like, that was plain English?
All right? So go to her website. By the way,
she is a health and wellness advisor. No, no, you
don't get it. No, no, this is me. You don't
get to come back.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
No, that's over.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
No, so no, go to the website. Check that out.
She also is a health and wellness advisor for Operation Hope,
so you'll if you're in, if you like what you
heard today, you want to hear more from her, let
me know or let her know in the comments wherever
we're checking this out, and you know, send a note.
She also has her own website, which is Wellness.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Three sixty three.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Sixty Wellness Collective, and send her a note. And if
you will want to hear more from her, you want
somebody to dive down it's something specific. I'm sure she'd
be happy to do a video something specific about it.
As you can tell, she's much kinder nicer and more
patient than me. So I think about some takeaways, like

(50:02):
you can give to people for that for a weekly
family meeting they're going to have on health and wellness,
some of your you know, some some some some some
quick text for a CEO who's on the run. What
happens if you you're a single mother, like a lot
of mothers are. They're raising kids, they got a career,
and they're not feeling their best self. What are some

(50:23):
things suggestions you have for them? And give me life
hacks like cheat sheets, some things that you do that
that are quick things that you can give to people
as a starting point. For instance, I never asked you this,
but like, how does your skin so great? Is it
just you're drinking water? What is there something you do
for your skin? Is something to do for your hair?
Is it something you do to keep the weight off?

(50:45):
I mean, is there anything there's something that triggers weight? Hello,
I don't care any of the above is helpful to
the audience. Well ignore, ignore those and go to something else.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Water is everything. I mean, you would be shocked at dehydration.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
And I know I always harp on it, and anyone
who knows me knows I'm always harping on are you dehydrated?
Hydration is everything. Most of us are dehydrated. And so
my biggest, biggest thing is make sure you drink water.
And that's the east, and that's the most.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
It's cheapest too, The cheapest, easiest is most sustainable. And
then nature is nature is free.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
And go outside get some fresh air. I know that
even if it's for.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Five minutes, five to ten minutes, just go outside and
get some air.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Do some deep breathing.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
You know, wouldn't even you'd be surprised at if you
just take a deep breath, go outside, get some air,
get some sunshine for five minutes. You'll feel so much better.
If say you're under pressure or something's going on, just.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Go out side for five walk around the walk around
the house, around.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
The long for a minute. Yeah, and just breathe.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
You would be shocked at at how that calms the
nervous system down. Those are my hacks. Those are my
go to. Like every morning, I start off with, you know,
my prayer and then meditation, yes, prayers.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
You know whatever.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Report Yeah, so that's how I start my mornings.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Those are that's definitely a hack.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Hip hop music so by the way incredible career. Uh
did did the album covers when back when she was
in the fashion business and the music business did album covers.
Were a bunch of big stars and designed the Olympic
uniforms for the Andrew Young Olympics in Atlanta in the

(52:50):
nineteen ninety six Olympics, but the Olympic NBA team designed
the uniforms for them. I had a fashion house in
New York in LA just a lot of incredible stories
that she has. So one of these times you'll we'll
get the chance to open her up. She's a little
bit more shy than me, but you'll open her up
a lot in there rather than the beautiful smiley face. Okay,

(53:14):
so you give them a couple of life hacks. By
the way, last week I was frustrated about something. I
had to go outside and walk around the block, I
around the house. It helped me just being outside. Like
you know, folks will frustrate the heck out of you.
Sometimes you need to breathe it through right because you
don't left it out. You don't let it out, then
it's it's it's becoming toxic, toxic inside of you.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Put these down.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Okay, there, you go put that down, put this down.
We were in Singapore. Nobody, nobody in the phone, nobody,
and they were not on the phone. They were not
on the phone, they were not on a call. It
was amazing. In all of Singapore, like nobody was on
their phone. It was unbelievable. Nobody was texting social media,
they were talking to each other. They were having really
really hard to.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Do because we're so attached to this and it does everything.
I love. I love my phone. I love my phone.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
But she loves she had her phone and.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Take it back and laugh. Laughter, We have a lot
of laugh. You can't take anything, you can't take this
so serious.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
But if you take some time, just turn your phone off,
you know, for a half hour, and just be present
with yourself.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Look, I'm looking at her her screenshot and even this
is peaceful. Look at this. She's that's her. That's her,
that's her in the middle.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Of the ocean, a peaceful screenshot on your phone.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Put a piece with something you think about your food,
like any any food hacks, shortcuts or things you do,
things you do and things you avoid. Sugar avohite, sugar,
white sugar. I eat brown sugar. I use brown sugar,
but I can't find this cream. I do well. If

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you're gonna have sugar, maple sugar, brown sugar, sugar and
the raw I think are better alternative. What else?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Watch the sugar? Watch your processed food?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yes, what do you want to explain with process food?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Like anything fried, fried food, or like deli meats and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Be careful of canned.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Food or they process? I think so a lot of them,
not all of them, but a lot of them are.
If something's been on the shelf, are I'm gonna let's
say something she may disagree with if somebody's been Like
in Europe, when you go to Europe, you don't see
a lot of obest people. They make the bread every day,
they make the cheese every day. You eat it. They

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make it, you eat it. In Africa, frankly, the same thing.
A lot of places. You don't see a lot of
obest people. The food here is processed. They sit on
the it sits on the shelf, It has an expiration date.
That is that that's the definition of process. Process was
not not just fried food. That's that's an easy example

(56:04):
of it. You I mean, I'm trying to think, I
mean all the I mean most of what we most
of we get in the groceries.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
How about a hack don't eat fried food.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
You see, she's really on this fried food that is
you know, of course she's right, right, And I don't
eat a ton of fried food. I used to, I
used to kill.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Depending on your system, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Moderate because she loves a glass of wine and yes,
lowers your blood blood, blood blood pressure.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, it's good for your blood. So they say, I don't.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Know it works for her.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I'm nutritionist. I'm not a I'm not a doctor or
a scientist. So find what works for you.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
So a note for me to black men, the danger
of emotional shut down in grind culture. That's going to
stretch you out and take you out. Like I just
you know, it's okay. You don't like me, Yeah, I
like me right, and not one else, not one out
of my self esteem depends on your acceptance of me.
And that's a Quincy Jones quote. Like I just don't
let stuff get to me. I walk through life consciously

(57:10):
oblivious and most things around me because it just doesn't matter.
And like I just shrugged my shoulders. You know, people
don't you know, to argue with the fool cruiser are
too Just let the stuff all rock walk, let the
stuff you know, just roll down your back and walk
and walk away from a fight, walk away from drama.
Don't sit there and argue with a crazy person. Get

(57:31):
your blood pressure up for what she said. A lot
of disease is disase, right, Just let the drama go.
So you know when I urge couples and families to
get real about health and have family needs about this.
You don't need a six pack. You need six hours
of sleep. I try to get six hours of sleep

(57:52):
a night. That's my magic number. Her number is a
little bit longer than six hours. But she's got beauty
to be concerned with. I don't go to the doctor
like you go to the barber on a regular basis.
If you love your family, stay alive for them right
and keep each.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Other healthy, work together to keep each other healthy.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Okay, Like what like what you like? Would like be
accountability partner like you were with me? Yeah, and do
it lovingly, I mean so that people listen to you.
It's like she she knew I'm a double She calls
me a double alpha, which is really bad. That's like
an intense on top of the tents on top of intense,
and she knew that like coming at me, he had
come at me a certain way, or I'm like, don't
tell me what to do, right, and she she disarms

(58:36):
me most of the time, and that gets me to
do what she suggests and makes it and ultimately she
has convinced me to make it my own decision, as
you're hearing me talk about it now. So thank you
for keeping me alive.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Anytime I'm keeping yourself.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
You did it. And thanks for being good. We do
we do good, we're better. We're two plus two here.
He was definitely equals tense. We hold each other accountable
one hundred percent. My worst day was her, I tell her,
is better than my best day with anybody else. She's
an extraordinary human being. And just what you see is
what you're good you get. It's just full of full

(59:19):
of love and authenticity, which gets you through. When somebody
is real and they have no agenda and they're not
trying to play you, they're not trying to extract from you,
it allows you to relax and forget, and you can
forgive almost anything with somebody's intention is pure. My brother
Rob McGrew would say If you're madly in love, you're

(59:39):
ready to cement to the it, the BS will entertain you.
If you're not madly in love or you're not ready
to cement to the it, the BS will drive you crazy.
It's the same BS. It depends how you look at it.
Is the glass half full or is the half empty?
Depends who was looking at the glass, which is why
Shache was talking about it. Disease is often dis ease.
Your energy. Watch your energy, Watch who's around you, watch

(01:00:05):
your toxicity. Field health is wealth. I mean it doesn't
do you any good and make all this money and
then you drop dead from a heart attack or hypertension
or diabetes or whatever it is because you just you
did something you didn't do, something preventable, and now you
you can't even enjoy it. That that say that right

(01:00:26):
you think you want to say and wrap up? I mean,
what what's your? What's your? Your? Your? Drop the mic
on the way out the door. Advice for people just try.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
To try to take care of yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
That's that's we always end up putting ourselves at the
last on the list, And try to be mindful that
it's okay to put yourself first when it comes to
your health so that you're being able to take care
of everything else that you have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Going on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
That part. This has been money and Wealth on the
Black Effect Network. This is John Holbryant, and this is
my weekly pullpit of finance. And this was a special edition.
I only bring special guests on when they're special and
when they bring something that's truly transformational to the conversation.

(01:01:17):
And I think you will agree this was and has
been transformational. We have dealt directly with a lot of
taboo topics, and we've been straight about our own insecurities
and our own failings and our own fears right there.
You know, if you're not afraid when a tiger's coming
at you at a million miles an hour, then something's
wrong with you. Uh So it has a legitimate reason

(01:01:37):
to be absolutely afraid. By the way, this has nothing
to doing nothing. It's just funny. You know why black
people are not in scary movie in horror movies because
we're not convincing. The Amniville horror it was. It was
an amiville horror. It was was the movie movie that
is it amivill horror? Or the House about the House
that was hunted the house that can't out see it.

(01:01:58):
There was a black one's the movie. It has been
over the first sale sign the front lawn, the first
that's why we get we get killed off in the
first scene in the horror movies. And yeah, because we're
just not convincing. You mess with a black perpy, but like,
we got enough problems just trying to live and you know,
we drop us might drop up black night, drop a
wallet in front of police officer, can kick it all
the way home. Like we got enough problem so so

(01:02:20):
you know, we ain't trying to be to be scared
out of my wits voluntarily and participate. If the house
is talking, we're just selling the house, right, We're not
going up. We'll get what's that noise? Right? So that
has nothing to do with health and wealth it is.
I thought it was funny Black people are really not
convincing in horror movies, which are not generally speaking, while
we're not in it, unless it's a completely black horror movie,

(01:02:42):
which a couple of them would just come out and
they almost parody comedies. And then there's actually a couple
of that actually I think did work. But this is
really just trying to get you to laugh, like, take
life seriously, don't take yourself too seriously. Like just don't
be full of pressure if that's what you want to,

(01:03:04):
you know, get yourself focused on a goal, but don't
stress yourself out. There is no perfect and you will
stress yourself out trying to be that way. It's just
the best you can do, and you can do a lot,
as you heard from Shatrap. If your brother and you
think you don't have enough time, think about how busy
my life is every morning? Is it true when I
get out in the morning, I do push ups sometimes

(01:03:27):
her frustrations, We gotta go right, push ups, sit ups, squats, breathing,
stretching and whatever it is can wait. It can wait
ten minutes, and it does. But don't let your health
wait because it may be too late. This is John O'Brien.
This is Shake Trae Bryant. This is the ego and

(01:03:52):
the butterfly, the heart and the head, even though she's
all had too in the since she's really smart. This
is you know, somebody may turn it to create a house,
but somebody has got turned into a home. So you
need the whole picture. Uh, And let somebody love you.
Let your family love. You don't just be don't just

(01:04:13):
be a giver. Try to get good at receiving love too.
I'm working on it myself. Vulnerability is not it's not
a weakness, it's a it's a strip. But most people
are not tough enough to be soft. That was my book,
Love Leadership and Yeah gues Financial Literacy for a I'll
tell your friends to subscribe to this podcast and ask
Shaitra some wellness questions so she can answer it uh

(01:04:36):
in an upcoming episode, do you want to do this again,
by the way, or have you had enough of me
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