Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dominique Leonard.
The founder of Jus' Free Parole Package Services. Once classified as an inmate a few short years ago, he wrote my own parole plan and was granted the privilege of freedom. Since his release, He has been dedicated to humanizing inmates with favorable representation in their quest to obtain parole.
Jus' Free is a parole package provider that goes above and beyond to bring forth and present the best potential of our clients. Due to a lack of knowledge, inmates are unaware of what is given to the Board of Pardons and Parole. Our company works with offenders and their loved ones to ensure the Board hears YOUR story. Together, we humanize and purposely create a narrative for the Parole Board that deems those requesting the privilege of parole worthy of the transition to freedom.
At Jus’Free, they recognize imperfection as part of the human experience. Our mission is to restore dignity to those who have been dehumanized and bring families back together. Through our programs and initiatives, we strive to empower individuals, promote understanding, and foster reconciliation. While we can't guarantee specific outcomes, we're committed to supporting each person's journey with compassion and empathy. Together, we work towards a more just and compassionate society.
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My guests found it just free. That's JUS Free, a
parole package provider that educates inmates who are unaware of
what is presented about them to the Board of Pardons
and Parole. I please, he's welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Dominique Leonard. How you doing, Dominique?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'm doing good. How you doing? Thank you for.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Having me appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I met you and at a black Man's Wellness event
in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Correct, yes, sir, okay? Cool? And while are we there?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
We was there because my wife's company was there, you know,
for the work. Hellness and awesome to get our own
little stuff done and our procedure is done. And I'm
also to support, you know, to support the community and
come out and see what was going on as well.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Right right, And that's when we met.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We connected and he said, hey, you started telling me
about his program just Just Free. Now, howly just Free
start because obviously you know it's tied to people who
are who are being incarcerated. Are incarcerated? Have you been incarcerated?
Dominique Lennard, Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Sir, so I was incarcerated and that's how Just Free
was born through my incarceration. I was actually given a
life sentence on my incarceration and we actually hire low help.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Holdo, holo, I'm doin now. You know, life sentence. Now
you just blue past that man. Somebody gonna tell you you're
gonna go to jail for life, and you act like
that was a comma in a sentence. Okay, now, somebody
tell me now now, because there are certain moments in
my life that things have happened to me, and everything
moves in slow motion when I hear and I told
when I when somebody told me, when the doctor told
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me I had he had diagnosed me with cancer, my
life slow man, I was like, wow, did he say cancer?
And I kept repeating that word to myself and so
so in a court, you were standing there and they
said you going to jail for life?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes? Yeah, So the jury stood there and told me
I'd be going to prison for life. And actually you
said that. It was like a slow motion, non surreal moment.
It was like a heart of body experience. And I'm
standing there like, okay, they just say life. Am I
going to prison for life? And at the time I
didn't understand what life meant. So again, through that process
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of prison, it's word just free was created.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, cool, let's let's let's educate the people. So you know,
you know, when people hear the word life, they feel,
you know, if something super does you did something super super, well,
I'm teasing going to jails and somebody arresting you. You've
done something wrong. Let's admit that what exactly did you do?
They put you in a position to receive this sentence.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I had a non aggravated robbery charge and that was
my That was my charge. It was walking into a
bank with a note. I only took it to charge
because they were trying to put more cases on me
that had nothing to do with me. But it ma's
the same BMO. And that goes with any kind of
time you get any kind of crime that'sh you know,
for any kind of violent crime or crime that that
has a certain MO and it's unsolved, they're going to
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try to put them all on you. And and so
I wanted to trial, but they would offer me seven
years if I didn't go to trial. Uh, but I
petitioned the court to go to charge to fight the charges.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Okay, Now, so you went in a bank with a note,
gave it to a taller, Yes, sir, Taylor gave you money,
and you walked out.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I walked out, Yes, sir, you got away?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
How long did you get were you out free? And
how did you get caught?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I was? I was. I was free for about seven
eight months. I got turned in by my cousin who
turned me in over a dispute that we had over money.
And he called the the too tip line they have
in Houston, Texas. And that's how they pulled me over.
That's how I got put in custody.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Crab in the bar, grabs in the bar. Yes, cool,
So that's that's you're done wrong. You you got called.
Now you're in jail, and they they put all these
these cases on you. You tried to fight it, and
you still went to jail anyway. And then your how
did you find out that there was a loop, that
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there are different versions of a life sentence?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How did you get educated about that?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well? It was actually when I was incarcerated. I had
made a phone call home to my cousin and he.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Was like, hey, bro, not the cousin who turned you in.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Not that girl, right, No, No, I haven't seen that
cousins that I've been free. But I called home to
my cousin. He said, hey, man, you have a life insurance,
but you have to do five and a half six
years be where you come up a parole. So you
have a non aggravated licensest non aggravated licenses mean that
when nobody tell somebody got hurt with the weapon involved.
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If I had an aggravated life centers, it means somebody
got hurt, it was a weapon involved or something to
that caliber. So it was a non aggravated life entest,
and so I knew I had to do five and
a half six years before I see parole. So in
that process, that's when my family hired a parole attorney
at the time while I'm doing my time to help
me get home on my phone and yes sir, and
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so that didn't happen. So my first part, after doing
six and a half years, I came up for parole.
Then I got denied my parole. And so at that
point I called home to my mom, spoke to her,
we got ahold of my dad, and he gave me
a hardship or harsh where they get you moved closer
to home if your family can't travel so far to
see you. So I got a hardship to get moved
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closer to home. And in that hardship, I got closer
to home. And the whole time walking and incarcerated, God
was staying elevating my life. Even in the walls of
prison I was. I didn't get any trouble, I didn't
have any fight. I mean, like again, I was protected
by God and doing the whole process. But in this transfer,
it's when I told my family, hey, listen, I'm not
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sure what the parole attorney did on my behalf. But
I think I know what parole wants to see because
before my incarceration, and still I was known as a
celebrity barber, I had a lot of clientele that I
was cut and traveling with doing this process. And I
don't think prole knew what that is, what I was.
I just knew the tatum. It's a black guy, committal crime.
It's all over the place. Oh my god. But so
I want to put a faith and I want to
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put life to my prone package. So I have my family,
fire my proole attorney and fire her whole team. And
they thought I was crazy, but I said, man, just
like you pray, I pray, and I feel I have
a vision of what they want to see. Right. Together,
we worked together, we worked, and.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So you became your own jail house lawyer.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And then you know what that
is a good saying, because that's likely what happens. A
lot of guys get in there, they learn cases, they
learn things and start fighting for yourself because every person
incarcerated only wants one thing, that's to be free. Right.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
How did that work?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
How did they work? You know because it's going to
be real here. You know, yeah, are free. You don't
want to open a book. You know you wanted to
get to go through the easy while you walked in
a bank and gave somebody a note and walk out
with somebody else's money. Now you're in jail, you know
you're found because your faith is strong in jail, correct,
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And then it is strong because guess what pray mean?
Prayer mean something to you in jail. I know because
I had a younger brother who was in jail. And
so now were there other people who mentored you through
this process and told you this is how you should
do it if you're going to try to find legal
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ways to uh get yourself out of prison, the legal
ways to understand the parole system. Who was mentoring you
while you were in prison before we before you launched
overall business called just Free, which is what you're doing
now that you're.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Out of prison.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, honestly, nobody mentored me doing this process. And I
believe that a lot of people get incarcerated, come on
make bad decisions that don't make them a bad person.
I made a bad decision right to make me a
bad person. I always had God in my life. I
had to turn back around to look at my guard
again while I'm going prison, because you know, I mean
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a lot of people get raised with God in their life,
in praying, praying mothers, praying grandmothers, whatever, you know, even
prand fathers one of them people. Again, I just started
to go my own way and I went to foolish.
For so everything I gained the right way, I lost
the wrong with it by that one bad decision. Because
everything I literally had, from barbershops to the cars, whatever,
how I was living, really it was legit. I lived.
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I lived right, but I made that one bad decision
to go into the bank, and now we created the
whole downfall. So while I'm in prison now, I just
made a whole u turn to who Dominique really is
and who I am as a person because I went
in again. I went in at thirty four, so I
didn't go in young foolish. I went in as a
grown man who had responsibility before. So I took my
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mind that I was already working with a hate me
to sit down, slow down, let's think about what you
want to do. Because you got this parole attorney. I
can't see what they're doing for me. So that's why
we let them go. And that's why I started creating
my own pro practice because again I just I prayed
about it, and I just had to feeling that, hey,
parole don't know who I am, and because in this
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prison we are dehumanized, and so I had to humanize
myself within the walls of prison. And that's how just
Free got created. And I just kind of start petitioning things,
putting things together. My family called up some friends, getting
pictures done, getting stuff done, to create this package. And
once they got formatted, I sent them home. My family
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made copy, sent them all back to me. I sent
them off to the pro board. So after my two
year set off, I seen parole again. This time I
came prepared because now I got my parole package, and
I made a promise to God, I says, God, if
you give me a chance, if you get me out this,
I promised, when I get home, I create just Free.
And I petitioned the court with my actually the parole board,
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with my parole package. It was March twenty sixteen and
made the other sixteen. The proboard called my mom said
they wanted to come see me in person. Which don't
happen because you after twenty years to see somebody from
the road, only did seven and a half years. By
this time almost eight and so actually the parole boy
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came to see me in person. I've seen parole in March.
They call my mom around May. They didn't come to
see me until almost the end of October twenty sixteen.
So I'm waiting almost six seven eight months for an answer.
I'm gonna go home or not. But they told my
mom that wasn't gonna make an answer to the see
me in person. But when they came to see me
in person, that changed the whole dynamic. The first thing
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the parole board told me his name is Tony Garcia.
He said, I've been doing this a very long time.
The time you have with your crime don't match, is overkill,
he said, he said, But once you get home, what
are you gonna do with this time? Before I can
even answer, I already heard what he said. He said,
once you get home, what are you gonna do with
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this time? Over your head? So I'm crying now like
a baby because he let me know he's gonna release me.
I've been walking straight. I'm officer walk by my trustee camp.
I haven't been in note trouble because everybody who gets incarcerated,
you have to walk your own walk in prison. You
can't walk next to the next man because see what's
gonna happen. The next man's gonna go home, You're still
gonna be there. You can't really have homeboys up in prison.
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And you can, but you have to walk your own walk.
I walked my walk the whole time while I was
in prison. That makes me a big bad man. I
just have my eyes on. I know I'm going home
one day. I know I have to live life after
this life. And so he granted me parole. I got
an if I want. If I wont means you leave
within thirty days of that answer. So he granted me
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the highest parole you can get what if I want
and so on. On top of that, I've also was
given the lowest levels of provision, which means that I
report every three to six months versus having to go
every two weeks. I'm a monetary Yeah, so I even
have the lowest levels of provision. And so again that's
how I just free got created.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Wow, you know, thank you for this honest conversation. Allow
me to enter rupt to share statements because I want
to make sure that you're an entrepreneur. Now you know
you made a mistake. And I tell everybody I made mistakes,
and I know. I remember when I was in college,
before we go to break, I'm just tell everybody this
little story that couldn't put me in jail. I remember
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my fraternity brothers had sent me out and told we
don't come back unless I had some plants. I didn't
have no money. They say, we want you come back
in this house without some plants. We're gonna you're gonna
find out something by pleasure that you don't want to
find out. And I always remember it was it was.
It was in Houston, and it was on a bare
left freeway, you know, bare laff freeway.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And bare left Freeway is like one of those really
white neighborhoods, really white neighborhoods. And they had this they
had this like a floor like like a garden center.
And I had to park my car and you could
and I had to go like I got some plants.
And I kid you not. Somebody could have just been
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driving along the freeway saw me getting these plans because
my big brothers told me, if I don't come back
with these plants, you're gonna be in trouble. And my
whole life could have been changed because of that silly moment,
that silly moment of doing that, And so we all
have moments that we can think about, and that was
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a regretful moment. That's why I'm sharing it with I'm
not proud of that moment because I want to share
with everyone to understand that Rashean McDonald did something stupid
in his life.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
He didn't get caught, but that doesn't mean it wasn't stupid.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
Just Free is a parole package provider that educates inmates
who are unaware of what is presented to them to
the Board of Pardons and Parole. I apologize for those
for those errors in my speech and my guest is
Dominique Leonard Dominique Chairter's his story, his journey and how
this whole concept while he was incarcerated just free became
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a business model for him. He relied on his faith
and his family and he became a jail host lawyer,
and working on that, he was able to fire all
this legal team, fired his legal team, and relied on
himself and his family, and he achieved parole because he
was given a life sentence. Now the transition. I'm gonna
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tell you my brother, My little brother got out of jail.
He was annoy it all. Couldn't tell him nothing, couldn't
tell him nothing, even though he was in jail. You know,
get money on the books, you got, I can tell
him nothing. Now when you got out of jail, sir,
will you will?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You all? Couldn't nobody tell you nothing?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Dominique? No, No, actually I wasn't. I wasn't a know
at all. I was in a very humble place for
my got out of prison. I was very humble. I
was very un sincere about life. I was listening, I
was I was willing to take any job that was
going to hire me. So actually, when I got home,
say how humble I was. I knew I was hungry
for life. I had kids, I had to feed, stay,
had to live my life. And so I started taking
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a little job at warehouse that was paying eight dollars
an hour, nine dollars an hour. But it wasn't the
amount that that mattered to me. What mattered to me
was just get myself back back acquainted again with life
and society, getting back into the working mode, working working style,
to the working hustle, and so you know, I mean,
so those jobs paid eight dollars an hour and I
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got paid every single week. For me, that was enough
just to get something in the gas tande, just to
put something on the table. Lets give my kids. He
got twenty bus, he got thirty bus, whatever it may be,
if they need some shoes, whatever. Because I knew it
wasn't going to be my end or that was my start,
but it was going to be my end. And so
I came home very humble.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Now that's great to hear. And because you had a
goal and the fact that you were focused. Now, how
did you start putting just free implement that? How did
you start making a business model for you? And did
you sit down, did you go to SBA. Did you
go to score? How did you start realizing this can
be a company, and how did that become How did
you implement the steps?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Implement the steps?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Well, this is what happened when I got home. When
I got home, I had a vision to start write
my plays. So I write my players. I was doing
theater and that was going actually really well, and it
was opening from doors for me. And my mom kept
telling me, son, until you give back and give your
testimony and give what you've been through and give how
God released you. If wasn't great deal to open for you.
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And it was probably about maybe six seven months off
to being home. I sat down, I went back to
my folder again. I seen my spress of God. Now
it's time to launch this just free. I didn't I
didn't take any kind of classes, but I did kind
of like study certain things that I that I've seen
while I was in prison. I went back and revisited that,
some of the packages, some things I may have seen.
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I revisited that. But again I stuck with the same
plan that got me free because I couldn't change it
because it worked. And it's like why change something that works?
And so I went with my own m And now
I did take a para legal course. I took a
para legal course. I did do that, you know, just
to get more knowledge on the legal side of things,
and get more knowledge on the parole side and the
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laws and when they change and stuff like that. So
that helped me some as well. But as far as
the parole package, that was solely from what God gave me.
You know it was it was. It was twenty five
percent a parole plan and seventy five percent faith.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Right right right right right now. Let me ask you this,
how did you get your customers? How did you get
your clients?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Great question. What I did is that I went on
the TDC website and I would just look for guys
on TDC websites who had a parole coming up where
there was two years away, three years away. Three years
is a pretty good time. And I would send them
a package and I would send them a cover sheet
of just Free, and I would send them an intro
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what we do for just Free, and I will send
it in Because I knew if I can contact the inmates,
all them want what one thing, just to be free.
So I knew if I can contact them, they would
get it home to their families. So that's how it
initially started off. I would contact all the inmates of them.
There's many images as I can, and my family poured
in and start blessing me with stamps and started blessing
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me with envelopes and stuff like that to get the
letters in there. So so everybody kind of poured the
seed into me and get that going. And then then
before I know it, family started calling me. Okay, Then
when family started calling me, we started creating paro packages.
We started creating more pro practice, more propractices. Thenfore I
know it, these guys are coming home on parole, coming
home on PRO, coming home on pro, and right now
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today where eighty two percent, you know, on a success
play of bringing guys home on parole, and even if
they don't make their first parole, we stick with them
until they get home. And most of the time they're
making the second parole is coming home on programs, are
coming straight home. I'm going to come home monitoring, but
all according to their case. You know, I'm just I'm
out of controller, but they have to come home home.
I'm just in controller. Try to get them free back
into society right.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Now, Maner this, This is really impressive. Thank you for
sharing your story because you know it's just an idea. Man,
you know, and somehow I don't know. Brother, if you
don't go to jail, there's no just free. If you're
gonna go to jail, there's not a lot of people
out of jail because you've shown them the pathway of
doing it right so they can stay out. And so
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I can't say what is happening to you is is
a bad thing because it was a bad thing and
you did a bad thing. But man, the fact that
you've created this business, how do you feel? How do
the people your family feels about what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
My family feels this is it. They feel, Hey, you
stay right here in this lane. This is it how
I feel about it. For me, every time I get
a phone call, every time I hear about somebody being incarcerated,
whether they become a client or not, just to get
the phone call, it's a humble situation that reminds me
of where I was and why I don't want to
go back to. That keeps me free, and that keeps
me humble. That keeps me in my place as a
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man and the father of the husband. You know as
a person at a brother. So for me is it's
great to have this surface. But I think the greatest
thing about it is just helping other families who go
through it, who deal with it. Because my mom dealt
with it. She tried her tell a life, trying to
get us free and so so to hear other mothers
crying and want their son's home and stuff like that,
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I have more of a solid foundation because I've been
through it. We've been through it. So now this whole
networking system that we have on the team, we all
work together to make sure we get the best of
success rate as possible.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Dominique Lennard just free. Hey, Dominique, Man, I'm telling you something.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I didn't know what this interview gonna go, but man,
you're doing some good work. Man.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I met this brother in the parking lot and on
the campus of University Houston. He said, I want to
do your show, mister McDonald, I said, brother, and I was.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I was emailing.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I had confirmed him and everybody, but he has an
O in his email address and I didn't know I
needed to put that O at the end of his
email address. And I had confirmed him a long time ago.
And then when he wasn't responding back, I blew him off,
blew him off. I said, what the heck, I'm trying
to book this dude, Okay, And then I realized I
made the mistake. I made the mistake, and he I
(23:35):
finally got it to him. We got everything on and
he's here to tell the story. How can people get
in touch with you, my brother before we wrap up
this call?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yes, sir, people you're gonna touch me on our website
which is just free j u f f r ee
dot com. They can call the work number on the
on the website which just seven one three three oh
six nine six two zero. They could find me on Instagram,
they could find me on Facebook. Dominique Lennard and how
to get a hold of me?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yes, sir, you know, brother, I'm gonna stay in touch
at you.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's it's some bigger places for you in life.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
All right, this show is interesting for me, man, This
show is interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Man. I keep committing. Every story gets better, every story
gets stronger. I just know that that my brother's doing good.
He came out with an attitude, came out with and
know it all made a couple of more mistakes. I'm
gonna tell you that Dominigg he wasn't He wasn't as
poured in as you. But he got his He's gotten
his life right, and I'm very happy for him, because
everybody deserves a second chance. Everybody deserves an opportunity to
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say I was wrong, because that's what that has to be.
One of the most shameful moments you brought in your
life personally, and one of the most shameful moments you
brought on your family. As we close out this show,
what do you want to say to the general public
about you? It's a man, and then your program just free.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
What I want to say first of all is that
me going through what I went through, I had to
stay strong. I have to pay my way through it.
I have to turn back from my old ways to
my new ways. And I would say to anybody who's
going through anything, there's people right around us who are
living witnesses that you can overcome. You will get through
it some way somehow. Just keep living. Because if I
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said there with a life sentence and now I'm free,
able to live life, you can't tell me God ain't good.
And as far as the program we make sure we
humanize every person incarcerator who's dehumanized with a custom parole
package just free dot com. Wow, and thank you for
having me as well as a blessing.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You had that number one more time there, Dominate.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Okay, yes sir, Yes, sir, the phone number seven one
three three oh six nine six to zero, the website
just free dot com, jus free dot com.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I appreciate you, brother, I really really do. And continue
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My guests found it just free. That's JUS Free, a
parole package provider that educates inmates who are unaware of
what is presented about them to the Board of Pardons
and Parole. I please, he's welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Dominique Leonard. How you doing, Dominique?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'm doing good. How you doing? Thank you for.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Having me appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I met you and at a black Man's Wellness event
in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Correct, yes, sir, okay? Cool? And while are we there?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
We was there because my wife's company was there, you know,
for the work. Hellness and awesome to get our own
little stuff done and our procedure is done. And I'm
also to support, you know, to support the community and
come out and see what was going on as well.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Right right, And that's when we met.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We connected and he said, hey, you started telling me
about his program just Just Free. Now, howly just Free
start because obviously you know it's tied to people who
are who are being incarcerated. Are incarcerated? Have you been incarcerated?
Dominique Lennard, Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Sir, so I was incarcerated and that's how Just Free
was born through my incarceration. I was actually given a
life sentence on my incarceration and we actually hire low help.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Holdo, holo, I'm doin now. You know, life sentence. Now
you just blue past that man. Somebody gonna tell you you're
gonna go to jail for life, and you act like
that was a comma in a sentence. Okay, now, somebody
tell me now now, because there are certain moments in
my life that things have happened to me, and everything
moves in slow motion when I hear and I told
when I when somebody told me, when the doctor told
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me I had he had diagnosed me with cancer, my
life slow man, I was like, wow, did he say cancer?
And I kept repeating that word to myself and so
so in a court, you were standing there and they
said you going to jail for life?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes? Yeah, So the jury stood there and told me
I'd be going to prison for life. And actually you
said that. It was like a slow motion, non surreal moment.
It was like a heart of body experience. And I'm
standing there like, okay, they just say life. Am I
going to prison for life? And at the time I
didn't understand what life meant. So again, through that process
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of prison, it's word just free was created.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, cool, let's let's let's educate the people. So you know,
you know, when people hear the word life, they feel,
you know, if something super does you did something super super, well,
I'm teasing going to jails and somebody arresting you. You've
done something wrong. Let's admit that what exactly did you do?
They put you in a position to receive this sentence.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I had a non aggravated robbery charge and that was
my That was my charge. It was walking into a
bank with a note. I only took it to charge
because they were trying to put more cases on me
that had nothing to do with me. But it ma's
the same BMO. And that goes with any kind of
time you get any kind of crime that'sh you know,
for any kind of violent crime or crime that that
has a certain MO and it's unsolved, they're going to
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try to put them all on you. And and so
I wanted to trial, but they would offer me seven
years if I didn't go to trial. Uh, but I
petitioned the court to go to charge to fight the charges.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Okay, Now, so you went in a bank with a note,
gave it to a taller, Yes, sir, Taylor gave you money,
and you walked out.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I walked out, Yes, sir, you got away?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
How long did you get were you out free? And
how did you get caught?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I was? I was. I was free for about seven
eight months. I got turned in by my cousin who
turned me in over a dispute that we had over money.
And he called the the too tip line they have
in Houston, Texas. And that's how they pulled me over.
That's how I got put in custody.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Crab in the bar, grabs in the bar. Yes, cool,
So that's that's you're done wrong. You you got called.
Now you're in jail, and they they put all these
these cases on you. You tried to fight it, and
you still went to jail anyway. And then your how
did you find out that there was a loop, that
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there are different versions of a life sentence?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How did you get educated about that?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well? It was actually when I was incarcerated. I had
made a phone call home to my cousin and he.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Was like, hey, bro, not the cousin who turned you in.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Not that girl, right, No, No, I haven't seen that
cousins that I've been free. But I called home to
my cousin. He said, hey, man, you have a life insurance,
but you have to do five and a half six
years be where you come up a parole. So you
have a non aggravated licensest non aggravated licenses mean that
when nobody tell somebody got hurt with the weapon involved.
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If I had an aggravated life centers, it means somebody
got hurt, it was a weapon involved or something to
that caliber. So it was a non aggravated life entest,
and so I knew I had to do five and
a half six years before I see parole. So in
that process, that's when my family hired a parole attorney
at the time while I'm doing my time to help
me get home on my phone and yes sir, and
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so that didn't happen. So my first part, after doing
six and a half years, I came up for parole.
Then I got denied my parole. And so at that
point I called home to my mom, spoke to her,
we got ahold of my dad, and he gave me
a hardship or harsh where they get you moved closer
to home if your family can't travel so far to
see you. So I got a hardship to get moved
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closer to home. And in that hardship, I got closer
to home. And the whole time walking and incarcerated, God
was staying elevating my life. Even in the walls of
prison I was. I didn't get any trouble, I didn't
have any fight. I mean, like again, I was protected
by God and doing the whole process. But in this transfer,
it's when I told my family, hey, listen, I'm not
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sure what the parole attorney did on my behalf. But
I think I know what parole wants to see because
before my incarceration, and still I was known as a
celebrity barber, I had a lot of clientele that I
was cut and traveling with doing this process. And I
don't think prole knew what that is, what I was.
I just knew the tatum. It's a black guy, committal crime.
It's all over the place. Oh my god. But so
I want to put a faith and I want to
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put life to my prone package. So I have my family,
fire my proole attorney and fire her whole team. And
they thought I was crazy, but I said, man, just
like you pray, I pray, and I feel I have
a vision of what they want to see. Right. Together,
we worked together, we worked, and.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So you became your own jail house lawyer.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And then you know what that
is a good saying, because that's likely what happens. A
lot of guys get in there, they learn cases, they
learn things and start fighting for yourself because every person
incarcerated only wants one thing, that's to be free. Right.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
How did that work?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
How did they work? You know because it's going to
be real here. You know, yeah, are free. You don't
want to open a book. You know you wanted to
get to go through the easy while you walked in
a bank and gave somebody a note and walk out
with somebody else's money. Now you're in jail, you know
you're found because your faith is strong in jail, correct,
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And then it is strong because guess what pray mean?
Prayer mean something to you in jail. I know because
I had a younger brother who was in jail. And
so now were there other people who mentored you through
this process and told you this is how you should
do it if you're going to try to find legal
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ways to uh get yourself out of prison, the legal
ways to understand the parole system. Who was mentoring you
while you were in prison before we before you launched
overall business called just Free, which is what you're doing
now that you're.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Out of prison.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, honestly, nobody mentored me doing this process. And I
believe that a lot of people get incarcerated, come on
make bad decisions that don't make them a bad person.
I made a bad decision right to make me a
bad person. I always had God in my life. I
had to turn back around to look at my guard
again while I'm going prison, because you know, I mean
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a lot of people get raised with God in their life,
in praying, praying mothers, praying grandmothers, whatever, you know, even
prand fathers one of them people. Again, I just started
to go my own way and I went to foolish.
For so everything I gained the right way, I lost
the wrong with it by that one bad decision. Because
everything I literally had, from barbershops to the cars, whatever,
how I was living, really it was legit. I lived.
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I lived right, but I made that one bad decision
to go into the bank, and now we created the
whole downfall. So while I'm in prison now, I just
made a whole u turn to who Dominique really is
and who I am as a person because I went
in again. I went in at thirty four, so I
didn't go in young foolish. I went in as a
grown man who had responsibility before. So I took my
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mind that I was already working with a hate me
to sit down, slow down, let's think about what you
want to do. Because you got this parole attorney. I
can't see what they're doing for me. So that's why
we let them go. And that's why I started creating
my own pro practice because again I just I prayed
about it, and I just had to feeling that, hey,
parole don't know who I am, and because in this
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prison we are dehumanized, and so I had to humanize
myself within the walls of prison. And that's how just
Free got created. And I just kind of start petitioning things,
putting things together. My family called up some friends, getting
pictures done, getting stuff done, to create this package. And
once they got formatted, I sent them home. My family
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made copy, sent them all back to me. I sent
them off to the pro board. So after my two
year set off, I seen parole again. This time I
came prepared because now I got my parole package, and
I made a promise to God, I says, God, if
you give me a chance, if you get me out this,
I promised, when I get home, I create just Free.
And I petitioned the court with my actually the parole board,
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with my parole package. It was March twenty sixteen and
made the other sixteen. The proboard called my mom said
they wanted to come see me in person. Which don't
happen because you after twenty years to see somebody from
the road, only did seven and a half years. By
this time almost eight and so actually the parole boy
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came to see me in person. I've seen parole in March.
They call my mom around May. They didn't come to
see me until almost the end of October twenty sixteen.
So I'm waiting almost six seven eight months for an answer.
I'm gonna go home or not. But they told my
mom that wasn't gonna make an answer to the see
me in person. But when they came to see me
in person, that changed the whole dynamic. The first thing
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the parole board told me his name is Tony Garcia.
He said, I've been doing this a very long time.
The time you have with your crime don't match, is overkill,
he said, he said, But once you get home, what
are you gonna do with this time? Before I can
even answer, I already heard what he said. He said,
once you get home, what are you gonna do with
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this time? Over your head? So I'm crying now like
a baby because he let me know he's gonna release me.
I've been walking straight. I'm officer walk by my trustee camp.
I haven't been in note trouble because everybody who gets incarcerated,
you have to walk your own walk in prison. You
can't walk next to the next man because see what's
gonna happen. The next man's gonna go home, You're still
gonna be there. You can't really have homeboys up in prison.
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And you can, but you have to walk your own walk.
I walked my walk the whole time while I was
in prison. That makes me a big bad man. I
just have my eyes on. I know I'm going home
one day. I know I have to live life after
this life. And so he granted me parole. I got
an if I want. If I wont means you leave
within thirty days of that answer. So he granted me
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the highest parole you can get what if I want
and so on. On top of that, I've also was
given the lowest levels of provision, which means that I
report every three to six months versus having to go
every two weeks. I'm a monetary Yeah, so I even
have the lowest levels of provision. And so again that's
how I just free got created.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Wow, you know, thank you for this honest conversation. Allow
me to enter rupt to share statements because I want
to make sure that you're an entrepreneur. Now you know
you made a mistake. And I tell everybody I made mistakes,
and I know. I remember when I was in college,
before we go to break, I'm just tell everybody this
little story that couldn't put me in jail. I remember
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my fraternity brothers had sent me out and told we
don't come back unless I had some plants. I didn't
have no money. They say, we want you come back
in this house without some plants. We're gonna you're gonna
find out something by pleasure that you don't want to
find out. And I always remember it was it was.
It was in Houston, and it was on a bare
left freeway, you know, bare laff freeway.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And bare left Freeway is like one of those really
white neighborhoods, really white neighborhoods. And they had this they
had this like a floor like like a garden center.
And I had to park my car and you could
and I had to go like I got some plants.
And I kid you not. Somebody could have just been
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driving along the freeway saw me getting these plans because
my big brothers told me, if I don't come back
with these plants, you're gonna be in trouble. And my
whole life could have been changed because of that silly moment,
that silly moment of doing that, And so we all
have moments that we can think about, and that was
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a regretful moment. That's why I'm sharing it with I'm
not proud of that moment because I want to share
with everyone to understand that Rashean McDonald did something stupid
in his life.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
He didn't get caught, but that doesn't mean it wasn't stupid.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
Just Free is a parole package provider that educates inmates
who are unaware of what is presented to them to
the Board of Pardons and Parole. I apologize for those
for those errors in my speech and my guest is
Dominique Leonard Dominique Chairter's his story, his journey and how
this whole concept while he was incarcerated just free became
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a business model for him. He relied on his faith
and his family and he became a jail host lawyer,
and working on that, he was able to fire all
this legal team, fired his legal team, and relied on
himself and his family, and he achieved parole because he
was given a life sentence. Now the transition. I'm gonna
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tell you my brother, My little brother got out of jail.
He was annoy it all. Couldn't tell him nothing, couldn't
tell him nothing, even though he was in jail. You know,
get money on the books, you got, I can tell
him nothing. Now when you got out of jail, sir,
will you will?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You all? Couldn't nobody tell you nothing?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Dominique? No, No, actually I wasn't. I wasn't a know
at all. I was in a very humble place for
my got out of prison. I was very humble. I
was very un sincere about life. I was listening, I
was I was willing to take any job that was
going to hire me. So actually, when I got home,
say how humble I was. I knew I was hungry
for life. I had kids, I had to feed, stay,
had to live my life. And so I started taking
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a little job at warehouse that was paying eight dollars
an hour, nine dollars an hour. But it wasn't the
amount that that mattered to me. What mattered to me
was just get myself back back acquainted again with life
and society, getting back into the working mode, working working style,
to the working hustle, and so you know, I mean,
so those jobs paid eight dollars an hour and I
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got paid every single week. For me, that was enough
just to get something in the gas tande, just to
put something on the table. Lets give my kids. He
got twenty bus, he got thirty bus, whatever it may be,
if they need some shoes, whatever. Because I knew it
wasn't going to be my end or that was my start,
but it was going to be my end. And so
I came home very humble.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Now that's great to hear. And because you had a
goal and the fact that you were focused. Now, how
did you start putting just free implement that? How did
you start making a business model for you? And did
you sit down, did you go to SBA. Did you
go to score? How did you start realizing this can
be a company, and how did that become How did
you implement the steps?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Implement the steps?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Well, this is what happened when I got home. When
I got home, I had a vision to start write
my plays. So I write my players. I was doing
theater and that was going actually really well, and it
was opening from doors for me. And my mom kept
telling me, son, until you give back and give your
testimony and give what you've been through and give how
God released you. If wasn't great deal to open for you.
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And it was probably about maybe six seven months off
to being home. I sat down, I went back to
my folder again. I seen my spress of God. Now
it's time to launch this just free. I didn't I
didn't take any kind of classes, but I did kind
of like study certain things that I that I've seen
while I was in prison. I went back and revisited that,
some of the packages, some things I may have seen.
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I revisited that. But again I stuck with the same
plan that got me free because I couldn't change it
because it worked. And it's like why change something that works?
And so I went with my own m And now
I did take a para legal course. I took a
para legal course. I did do that, you know, just
to get more knowledge on the legal side of things,
and get more knowledge on the parole side and the
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laws and when they change and stuff like that. So
that helped me some as well. But as far as
the parole package, that was solely from what God gave me.
You know it was it was. It was twenty five
percent a parole plan and seventy five percent faith.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Right right right right right now. Let me ask you this,
how did you get your customers? How did you get
your clients?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Great question. What I did is that I went on
the TDC website and I would just look for guys
on TDC websites who had a parole coming up where
there was two years away, three years away. Three years
is a pretty good time. And I would send them
a package and I would send them a cover sheet
of just Free, and I would send them an intro
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what we do for just Free, and I will send
it in Because I knew if I can contact the inmates,
all them want what one thing, just to be free.
So I knew if I can contact them, they would
get it home to their families. So that's how it
initially started off. I would contact all the inmates of them.
There's many images as I can, and my family poured
in and start blessing me with stamps and started blessing
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me with envelopes and stuff like that to get the
letters in there. So so everybody kind of poured the
seed into me and get that going. And then then
before I know it, family started calling me. Okay, Then
when family started calling me, we started creating paro packages.
We started creating more pro practice, more propractices. Thenfore I
know it, these guys are coming home on parole, coming
home on PRO, coming home on pro, and right now
(20:59):
today where eighty two percent, you know, on a success
play of bringing guys home on parole, and even if
they don't make their first parole, we stick with them
until they get home. And most of the time they're
making the second parole is coming home on programs, are
coming straight home. I'm going to come home monitoring, but
all according to their case. You know, I'm just I'm
out of controller, but they have to come home home.
I'm just in controller. Try to get them free back
into society right.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Now, Maner this, This is really impressive. Thank you for
sharing your story because you know it's just an idea. Man,
you know, and somehow I don't know. Brother, if you
don't go to jail, there's no just free. If you're
gonna go to jail, there's not a lot of people
out of jail because you've shown them the pathway of
doing it right so they can stay out. And so
(21:42):
I can't say what is happening to you is is
a bad thing because it was a bad thing and
you did a bad thing. But man, the fact that
you've created this business, how do you feel? How do
the people your family feels about what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
My family feels this is it. They feel, Hey, you
stay right here in this lane. This is it how
I feel about it. For me, every time I get
a phone call, every time I hear about somebody being incarcerated,
whether they become a client or not, just to get
the phone call, it's a humble situation that reminds me
of where I was and why I don't want to
go back to. That keeps me free, and that keeps
me humble. That keeps me in my place as a
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man and the father of the husband. You know as
a person at a brother. So for me is it's
great to have this surface. But I think the greatest
thing about it is just helping other families who go
through it, who deal with it. Because my mom dealt
with it. She tried her tell a life, trying to
get us free and so so to hear other mothers
crying and want their son's home and stuff like that,
(22:43):
I have more of a solid foundation because I've been
through it. We've been through it. So now this whole
networking system that we have on the team, we all
work together to make sure we get the best of
success rate as possible.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Dominique Lennard just free. Hey, Dominique, Man, I'm telling you something.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I didn't know what this interview gonna go, but man,
you're doing some good work. Man.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I met this brother in the parking lot and on
the campus of University Houston. He said, I want to
do your show, mister McDonald, I said, brother, and I was.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I was emailing.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I had confirmed him and everybody, but he has an
O in his email address and I didn't know I
needed to put that O at the end of his
email address. And I had confirmed him a long time ago.
And then when he wasn't responding back, I blew him off,
blew him off. I said, what the heck, I'm trying
to book this dude, Okay, And then I realized I
made the mistake. I made the mistake, and he I
(23:35):
finally got it to him. We got everything on and
he's here to tell the story. How can people get
in touch with you, my brother before we wrap up
this call?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yes, sir, people you're gonna touch me on our website
which is just free j u f f r ee
dot com. They can call the work number on the
on the website which just seven one three three oh
six nine six two zero. They could find me on Instagram,
they could find me on Facebook. Dominique Lennard and how
to get a hold of me?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yes, sir, you know, brother, I'm gonna stay in touch
at you.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's it's some bigger places for you in life.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
All right, this show is interesting for me, man, This
show is interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Man. I keep committing. Every story gets better, every story
gets stronger. I just know that that my brother's doing good.
He came out with an attitude, came out with and
know it all made a couple of more mistakes. I'm
gonna tell you that Dominigg he wasn't He wasn't as
poured in as you. But he got his He's gotten
his life right, and I'm very happy for him, because
everybody deserves a second chance. Everybody deserves an opportunity to
(24:36):
say I was wrong, because that's what that has to be.
One of the most shameful moments you brought in your
life personally, and one of the most shameful moments you
brought on your family. As we close out this show,
what do you want to say to the general public
about you? It's a man, and then your program just free.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
What I want to say first of all is that
me going through what I went through, I had to
stay strong. I have to pay my way through it.
I have to turn back from my old ways to
my new ways. And I would say to anybody who's
going through anything, there's people right around us who are
living witnesses that you can overcome. You will get through
it some way somehow. Just keep living. Because if I
(25:15):
said there with a life sentence and now I'm free,
able to live life, you can't tell me God ain't good.
And as far as the program we make sure we
humanize every person incarcerator who's dehumanized with a custom parole
package just free dot com. Wow, and thank you for
having me as well as a blessing.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You had that number one more time there, Dominate.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Okay, yes sir, Yes, sir, the phone number seven one
three three oh six nine six to zero, the website
just free dot com, jus free dot com.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I appreciate you, brother, I really really do. And continue
winning as I always tell people who call in on
this show, and we'll talk to you. Okay, thank you
for calling on Money Making Comings Masterclass.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Hey man, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Don't go nowhere.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We'll be right back with more money Making Conversation Masterclass
and incredible guests is coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'll tell you, man, this show. I hope y'all listening.
I hope y'all listening.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I hope y'all hear the stories we're trying to tell
everybody about what we're trying to do on this show
on a regular basis. This has been another edition of
Money Making Conversation Masterclass posted by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank
you to our guests on the show today and thank
you our listening to audience. Now if you want to
listen to any episode. I want to be a guest
on the show. Visit Moneymakingconversations dot com. Our social media
(26:36):
handle is money Making Conversation. Join us next week and
remember to always leave with your gifts.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Keep winning.
Host
Rushion McDonald
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