Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Tracy and Sunshine Gantt.
A husband-and-wife team who founded the first and only homeless shelter in Pickens County, South Carolina. Here are some key highlights and themes from the conversation:
Here are some key highlights and themes from the conversation:
🌟 Key Themes and Highlights
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Faith and Redemption
- Tracy shares a deeply personal journey from a troubled past involving street life, incarceration, and violence to becoming a pastor and community leader.
- Sunshine also opens up about her own struggles, including a period of homelessness, and how faith and resilience brought them back together.
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Founding the Shelter
- Despite numerous obstacles—including zoning issues, lack of funding, and health challenges—they transformed a 6,000 sq. ft. warehouse into a fully operational homeless shelter.
- The shelter now serves 50–60 individuals daily, offering meals, shelter, and care at no cost.
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Community and Recognition
- Their work has been recognized with local and national honors, including the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award.
- They emphasize the importance of community support, with contributions from businesses like Home Depot and local churches.
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Humor and Humanity
- The interview is filled with warmth, humor, and authenticity, making their story not only inspiring but also deeply human and relatable.
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Call to Action and Support
- Host Rushion McDonald pledges a $1,000 donation and promises to visit and bake for the shelter residents, reinforcing the show's mission to uplift and support changemakers.
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Two of them, husband and wife tandem got two of
them found it the first and only homeless shelter in
Pickens County, South Carolina. Their Black Leg nonprofit that serves
fifty to sixty individuals daily with shelter meals and the Central.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Care, all free of charge.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Their journey of faith, resilience, and service has been recognized
by local and state leaders and honored both of them
with the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award. Let's hear their inspirational
story and how their faith and hard work is changing lives.
Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass Tracy and Sunshine Gan.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How you doing, Dean, I'm award winning baker.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, I'm a ward winning baker. This is what I'm
gonna do. I've done this a long time, y'all tell
me a day. I'm gonna come down there, and I'm
I'm gonna bring some of my desserts I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the pineapp upside down cake. I'm talking
about Jeremy Cockley cake I'm talking about I'm talking about
(02:17):
peach cobbler I'm talking about I'm gonna see y'all pictures too.
When I ain't see y'all picture. Let y'all know this
is what I do. Okay, this is what I do.
Because when I saw this, because I did it for
a foundation, a shelter in Mississippi, they asked me like, hey,
I shocked, shock flew down there, baked it all in
(02:38):
their kitchen, which I might do down there for y'all might
just come down there and bake it all at your
kitchen and it's all.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's all. It'd be easy for me to do it
that way too. But I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Before the summer's out, y'all will see my face and
I'll be coming down to Pickings County, South Carolina, and
I will feed those.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Fifty to sixty people. Now after I leave, they gonna
be mad because there.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Right right every day.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
But I would do that money because when you do,
when you do guard to work and do blessing it
because I do a lot of work you're doing with the.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Homeless experience is not east.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's like these It's almost seems like a mont you
can't climb. It's a mon you can't climb because you
you We want them to see the opportunity, but they
don't see it. But that's my version of it. Talk
about let's talk about it started with you, sunshine, how
you get in this business? And how did you meet
this handsome guy with this Michael Jordan cap on his
(03:37):
name Tracy.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
We met as teenagers. So yeah, we've been together a
long time. But our story started out kind of rocking.
We got married young.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I was eighteen, two weeks before I was about to
turn nineteen.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He was twenty when we got married.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Just a couple of years of our marriage was really rocky,
ed up, splitting up, and we were separated for eight years.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow, that's not split job, woul, y'all separate. Now let's
get to you, Tracy. Tracy, you got Michael Jordan's ken.
You play basketball, brother, I asked you.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
That's the main part of the store. See, all my
life it was all about basketball. You know, I ain't
my player for just to go to the pros, go
college and go priy. I haven't played against Kevin Gordon
and that's one of my highlights on my life. But
down here that it wasn't no studying, no books, It wasn't.
(04:39):
My focus was on basketball. So my twelfth grade year
I banged my New York and basketball wasn't in a
picture no more. But since I spent all them years
focused on basketball, I had nothing to fall off from.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Fall back home to the streets. That's all I knew
was the streets.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
So things things had gotten bad, And I knew she
was the one because first I met her doing like
a shootout. It was a shootout, and I lost my
gold caps and I went back to go found my
gold caps. And I've seen Sunshine walking up the street
and it was like a little at first sight.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Lo, lo, lord, they need to stop. This man just
said it was a shootout, he lost his gold cap.
Then he says, Sunshine just calmly walking up the street. See, wow,
this story ain't adding up now either that there is
a file of the neighbor yours. Y'all in and sit
on my ducking bullets, because I'm gonna let y'all know
(05:37):
such time as an attractive drummer.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm gonna just tell y'all right now. So sometimes walking down.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
The street, bullets flying everywhere, he's looking for his gold caps.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Yeah, it was the day after.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I don't there.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
After, I don't even go down that street for a more.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I didn't see her first was a first, he did,
you can't know we've been cod block and going on.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Right, right, right, But yeah, I knew she was doing one. Right,
So let's get your story straight.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Because Rachean got out of her line because it was
the next day suns Tinne was walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But the way you told that story, though, Tracy, it's
all like, man, I.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Lost my good cap sometimes sometimes walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Slide fast bullets that for me for they proof, that's
what I saw. Continue, Tracy, you too much.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Boy, So you know the day for a while and
this I knew what she was doing. One like me
and my homeboy got into it with somebody and we
I think I thought we almost killed the dude.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
So we was on a run from.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
The police and the other dudes, and I caught Sunshine
and she came and scooped me up and.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
In the country, so I knew she was down for that, right.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
What i'ma just educate y'all. Now, See, this is our country,
he is see taking county is the country. So I
don't know what part of the country she went that
he calls the country, but I can assure you.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It gets real dark that night. I'm from the country.
I know what country looks like.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You got our house, you got a little thing next
to the bed. That's what he talked about country. I
know he talked about y'all. I think I got to
educate my people because they ain't never.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Had no country people like y'all on my call before now.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But but we having fun here because of the fact that.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's what you have to have to uplift people. You
have to have a sense of humor because there's so
much darkness in what y'all do.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Now, what motivated your son Shine as well as Tracy
to pursue this path because I see homeless people all
the time.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, one thing that I didn't mention earlier.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
While we were separated, there was a short time frame
where I was homeless, and but luckily I had my
brother that I could go with and you know, with
him probably for about a year until I got back
on my feet. Then I moved in with my mother, wow,
and then ended up getting you know, my own place back.
So that's pretty much my touch on, you.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Know, being connected with homelessness.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now, his story is a lot deeper as far as
homelessness is involved.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We moved to Anser and All and moved answer, and
I was doing good. I had got a good job,
were doing good. God bless us with the brand new trailer.
I mean, we were doing well for ourself. And then
my nephew got murdered. There was they were trying to
get I think they were trying to get me. But
since I moved, that got my nephew. Something in me snapped.
(09:04):
And when it snapped, I went back to the streets
and something. The first time I got my job broke
and my wife next time something happened like that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm gone.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Well about a couple months toobout.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
A year later, I tried to got shot up, and
that's when Sunshine she left. I did this for a while,
but all y'all men know, man, when that woman leave,
boy ay, everything falls apart. I'm gonna jump all the
way to the park. I was on the run from
the police. I was facing twenty five to life. That
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what make me homeless?
Speaker 6 (09:42):
When you man, When I was out there doing my thing,
I would help a lot of people, and I had
a lot of homeboys.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But when you on the run, you find out who
really is your friends, You really know who got your back.
And I was only for eight years running from the
police and then one night of God just said, man,
turn yourself in.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So police station turned myself in.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I went to prison, I got out and I went
I went to a homeless shelter.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
I went there for.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Two years and it taught me how to turn my
life around instead of being a street person.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Turned my life towards God.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
About two weeks for it was a two a two
year program and back to the end, I started reaching
out for Sunshine. I ain't talked to him eight years,
so I couldn't find her. So about two weeks before graduation,
she called me and I'm like, man, as long as
you don't live in Piggins County, man, we can get
back together.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
But she lived right in Piggins County. She ain't go nowhere, nowhere,
so now so then, uh, yeah, I am. I know.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
God.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
God gave me a vision while I was in prison.
He gonna use what I went through to help other people.
But he didn't give me no instruction. So we came
back to Piggins County. We opened up a couple of
thriller stores. Uh, but nobody went and licensed me because
of my background. Nobody church Maacht likened me to preach,
but nobody told me to. This man came to us
(11:09):
sore and he he brought me in. When we went
to his church with four people and we my wife,
his wife, him, oh and our and our child was there.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
He groomed me for about two years and then he
passed away and gave us the church. When he gave
us the church, my first my first two sermons, we
had this homeless people coming to our shelf. It was
like during the cold season and we rolled around piggs hound,
I mean, with no homelean sheept to know where, so
we allowed them to stay inside of the church. Well,
(11:41):
we our church is old, I'm talking about old Catholic church,
so we have no sprinkling system. So somebody told on
us and they told us we couldn't do it no more.
So God say build it yourself. But this time, you
know how hard it is for a convid to get
a job. I found and dollar tree man, I told you,
(12:01):
and God told me to quit, and I didn't.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
I ain't up getting robbed in this day.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
So I said, I'm I'm with God all the way.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
And that's just part of the story right now.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's now, that's the word is said. That's a hell
of a story. At this part of the story, you
need to stop. I'm told, Glad, I'm telling something.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm told Glad, I ain't rob y'all be laughing. So
if I was around y'all, in fact, when I come
down there, be ready to laugh, be ready to laugh.
You not. I am coming down there, and I am
going to bait. I am going to personally serve my
desserts to your crew.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We would love to have you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Just you're just you, just to take a gas away.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So like I like, I'm stressing myself out, and like
I'm driving to California. Okay, then I have to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Then I don't know. I see y'all.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But with this story that you tell, I won't to
get to you to trace a lot of violence, man,
a lot of violence, and you lose a relative, but
you still got this personality of up left and positivity.
How have you not allowed those setbacks stop you from
being the person you are today?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
God shows me every day what he did for me.
He showed me his love is grace and his mercy.
One sect one you don't understand. Oh my angle management
came out. I was in prison, Okay, I mean years
in person, I mean years were you're in prison two years.
They dropped mostly all the charges because I turned myself in,
(13:44):
but I was in probation while I was doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
My roommate had nine hundred and ninety nine years.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Straight did jail two years.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Man across from here and damn there a thousand years
because I know you didn't tell that man you was
in there for two years.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
No, no.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Said, wait from go to church, go to church every day,
go to school.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I ain't see everyone they do.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Man, Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with
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Speaker 2 (14:29):
There was something staying interesting to me about the church
and you was bringing you bring homeless people in the church,
and they say that was against the rule.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Explain that to me, because I thought that's what the church.
Purpose of the church was to share the dity were.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Different, We were very different.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
We hain't got this couple in right and downstairs we
had a kitchen area and you know.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
What I'm saying, stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So we let them, we allowed them to stay down
there and we started getting back on their feet too.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
You know, they got their call, they got a nice job,
they got a call.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
They were going through the process, and then somebody heard
about it and we reported it because we because the
church wasn't built for that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And we don't have a sprinkler system. Yeah you know
one of those sprinkler systems and our church.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay, okay, cool, So it's like basically co violations.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Then we found the building, and then where the building
was it they said they ain't want that kind of
activity in their neighborhoods where they took.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
That building from us. But then we were finding blessed.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
For one right, So there, that's really good because I'd
like to break down because people hearing certain things that
make stereotype. But really y'all are doing a good deed,
but y'all violating codes right right.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
We didn't know?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, now you you you know, they can't be everywhere
because everybody don't want a shelter. Okay, you can just
open the shelter over here, people go. Those type people
we don't want near our business or near our homes.
So let's go through the process of finding the shelter,
(16:14):
getting the shelter approve, and then gathering funds to keep
it open. Let's let's find that shelter first, Sunshine.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Okay. So, like my husband said, the first building that
we got is exactly what you just described.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
It was in the neighborhood and people heard about it
and they were like, no, we don't We don't want
to shelter in our neighborhood. We were still searching for
another building. We had a family friend come to us
and he owned a lot of properties, and so he said,
you know, I think I got a building that wo
worked good, you know, for a homeless shelter for y'all.
So we went and looked at it, and that building
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needed a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It was really big.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It was about six thousand square feet upstairs got like
two thousand square feet, but it was completely did It
was like just a big open warehouse face, no walls,
no flooring, no ceiling anything.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It needed a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So we were sitting there thinking, how in the world
are we going to get this building, you know, up
to code to become my own in a shelter. So
I started reaching.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Out to people. That's one thing I do.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I stayed on the grind, reaching out and especially once
my husband told me his vision on what he wanted
to do as far as opening a shelter. So I
started contacting companies, contractors, CEOs and telling them, you know
what our plans are and that we got this building
that needs a lot of work. Before I knew it,
the project took off. We had all the companies pouring
(17:41):
into us. Lows came in and started building walls on
one side. Home depot came in, started pouring in money,
Churches came together and started putting down flooring, ceiling, and
before we knew it.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Took two years to get done. But before we knew it,
we we did it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
To build a new hours take about six months to
a year.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Now, okay, so do y'all did the wows two years?
That's pretty quick. That's pretty quick.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
With no funding, with no fund and reduced some fighting
to hold off, fighting, hold fight because nobody they painted
the picture is they didn't have a problem.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, yes, and so we had to go up and
getting a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
But when we finally got the word to open, the
pandemic hit that same day.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes, wow, it took us two years, It.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Did pant did come along.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
It was a Friday when we got our certificate of
occupancy to open.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
At least you got that. But God was good to
give you that. Now, if the party a hit and
you didn't get the certificate, even in the summer time
for you looking around for a certificate.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
But the people don't get twisted. We're not a big corporation, right.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
So when we was building a shelf, it was me
and my wife doing the trips to loads, get the pipes,
to get the flooring, to get it was me and
my wife doing it because thed Blessings with all a
boss truck. So everything that we did, it would just
meet in my own wife and it caused her to
(19:23):
have a lot of health problems, right.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Right, Yeah, I've got a congestive heart failure.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Now, okay, so but how you what you're doing to
that is that you're more sleep or you're taking pills
for that, sunshine.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I'm taking pills for it.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I've actually hospitalized twice since twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm on medication.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Okay, Well, we all well be down there to see you. Okay,
give your hugs because I'm good at that. I got
six sisters. Now, so Jeorge, what I or your wife?
Don't be dunking on my head now, I know you're
you're being shooting up even I come back, I got
shot out of Pickings counted. You thought I was trying
to play on your wife. I'm just ugging though.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I brought Tim Kinks down there. Come on now, tell
y'all watch Tracy. Yeah to watch Tracy man.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
He be waking over there, man rolling dice in the corner.
Let's talk about this award though, because you know, I've
been blessed to get a presidential lifetime ate the ward
sitting off, I've gotten two of them. At first, when
I got my first one, I didn't. I couldn't believe
that somebody nominated me won. And the second that I
(20:36):
got it, okay, I got it for real presidential lifetime achievement.
The ward okay, sitting on my office on my wall.
Now we down there at Pinkings Pickings, Pickings County, South Carolina.
You know, looking at your life, you know YO came together,
(20:57):
separated Tracy two years and concertrated, sat across the man
with a thousand years.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You know, shootouts, did the wrong things, more wrong things
you did right in your early years. Yes, I can
say that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I can say that, and such show you don't getting
that with it, hormlest lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And now y'all gonna get the president.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Y'all got it. I'm not gonna get got it. Talk
about that journey such and then I want to hear
from country over there.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I'm calling them country traits. Talk to me such.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It was kind of with our commendation letters, started like
with local government, started like with our local mayors.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Then it went up to like our local governors.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
And then with the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award, I'm like, wow, okay,
so yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You really made it.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It was just it was it was shocking I put
it that way.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, it ain't shocking to me because you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
And that young man sitting right next to you, Tracy,
you know because you know, because Tracy know what, Because
a lot of things are expected of people, and then
when they fall off that track, then people don't expect
anything of them. You a man if a faith, hard work,
(22:26):
and understand set back. You know, you because in some
way you saw the lords of life because you get.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Behind the brow. I got a brother, or that a
brother who was behind broad I know that.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I know that look across the other side when I
know that person has no rights, no more on that
other side. And you see that every day man at
that homeless shelter, fifty sixty people you're feeding on a
daily base. How do your inspirational lifestyle is told to
them to keep them going because you are a difference maker.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yes, yes, sir, uh I stay my testimony. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I'm not no ordinary pastor. I'm I'm not like the
other ones.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Man, I'm really down to earth, and I don't I
don't forget where I come from. I really don't. And
I share my story to show them that if I
can make it, they can make it too. And it's
not about my preaching.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's about my walk. I walked the talking.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Times come up and I know they're watching me, but
get cussed out they watching me. So instead of cussing back,
I gotta parint. So I got I got to live
by example because my life man, people did already talking,
but they live differently. If I'm gonna walk this, if
I'm gonna talk this talk, I'm gonna walk it. And
I got to show them. Man, no matter what you've
(23:47):
been through in your life, God could take you further
in life if you just got to let you do that.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You to it. I can't forget where I came from. Man,
I'm about to do something stupid. God will remind me
of a cold.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Toilet right right right, well, my brother and my sister,
I want to donate one thousand dollars, thank you, thousand dollars.
And I'm gonna tell you something right now, such and
get that W nine to me today so I can
have my wife process it and we put that check
(24:20):
in the mail on Tuesday morning. Okay, thousand dollars to
your foundation. Just get that W nine to me today
and that that's gonna happen. And I'm gonna come down
there and I'm gonna bake for you, Trace.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm not gonna bay for Sunshine. I'm baked for you, Tracy.
And I think I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bring
it all already done. I'm gonna bring it.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I would just lay my back of my truck down,
put it all in the drive down there so we
can unload it all to y'all can see by work
and we take photos and all that good stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
I just want to be gonna dolation part.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
We want to say thank you because we do not
charge our residents to stay there, right, And I said,
I don't get paid to preach. All the money go
towards go towards the shelter, and we really lean on God.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
And what you just did that is from God. We
really want to say thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Hey man, thank you cause you know I don't get
by changed on all my interviews. Okay, I have to
be inspired to Okay, I work after my money.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I'm just doing right.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Dow checks Okay, A thousand dollars, okay, I can do.
I buy some shoes, some clothes, get on the trip,
go to Miami. Okay, I work hard, but I also
know y'all work harder. Y'all changing lives and so well,
about thousand dollars gonna affect way more people than myself.
(25:45):
But more important than two things I promise to you,
and I can start one today. I'm gonna see you
those photos of those little three little the little bitty bottles.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I'm gonna say that photo to y'all. I gotta work
to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I this call got right chicks, kind of got mail
and eye it licks stamps.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I gotta do everything, y'all for people to work.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't know if I'm ever interview y'all again, yeap
for me to work. I gotta bake, I gotta write
a check out, I gotta mail stuff, I gotta take
a photo. That's a lot of work for this interview, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
But thank y'all. Thank y'all for CONCERNTU.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Thank thank yous to such I thank you for contacting me, Tracy,
Thank you for allowing me to meet you. Brother and
y'all beautiful couple men and uh hey man, and you
stay healthy, young lady, you stay healthy and uh but
get that information to me today. So I give my
wife the process it because I feel good about my
life to be able to position, to be any position
to make this type of donation.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And then I'm gonna come down there and see you. Tracy.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I just want to say thank you for taking the
time to interviews. Thank you for even paying attention to us, because,
like you said, being from world Pickings County, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Always telling that people were listening when somebody from the
country said they living somebody else.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
They don't living in the country.
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That's the part of the country you don't even want
to go in. That's the part of the counting. You
have no idea where you going. Okay, word they said,
turn right at the tree, the big oak, or the mailbox.
(27:30):
If the cow is still standing there, make a left.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
The only run down born.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Make a left, and that you come to the end
of the road. If you see a rock, make a left.
I'll be standing there the road waving.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I loveth for y'all.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
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Conversation Basterclass.
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Two of them, husband and wife tandem got two of
them found it the first and only homeless shelter in
Pickens County, South Carolina. Their Black Leg nonprofit that serves
fifty to sixty individuals daily with shelter meals and the Central.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Care, all free of charge.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Their journey of faith, resilience, and service has been recognized
by local and state leaders and honored both of them
with the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award. Let's hear their inspirational
story and how their faith and hard work is changing lives.
Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass Tracy and Sunshine Gan.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How you doing, Dean, I'm award winning baker.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, I'm a ward winning baker. This is what I'm
gonna do. I've done this a long time, y'all tell
me a day. I'm gonna come down there, and I'm
I'm gonna bring some of my desserts I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the pineapp upside down cake. I'm talking
about Jeremy Cockley cake I'm talking about I'm talking about
(02:17):
peach cobbler I'm talking about I'm gonna see y'all pictures too.
When I ain't see y'all picture. Let y'all know this
is what I do. Okay, this is what I do.
Because when I saw this, because I did it for
a foundation, a shelter in Mississippi, they asked me like, hey,
I shocked, shock flew down there, baked it all in
(02:38):
their kitchen, which I might do down there for y'all might
just come down there and bake it all at your
kitchen and it's all.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's all. It'd be easy for me to do it
that way too. But I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Before the summer's out, y'all will see my face and
I'll be coming down to Pickings County, South Carolina, and
I will feed those.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Fifty to sixty people. Now after I leave, they gonna
be mad because there.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Right right every day.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
But I would do that money because when you do,
when you do guard to work and do blessing it
because I do a lot of work you're doing with the.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Homeless experience is not east.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's like these It's almost seems like a mont you
can't climb. It's a mon you can't climb because you
you We want them to see the opportunity, but they
don't see it. But that's my version of it. Talk
about let's talk about it started with you, sunshine, how
you get in this business? And how did you meet
this handsome guy with this Michael Jordan cap on his
(03:37):
name Tracy.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
We met as teenagers. So yeah, we've been together a
long time. But our story started out kind of rocking.
We got married young.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I was eighteen, two weeks before I was about to
turn nineteen.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He was twenty when we got married.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Just a couple of years of our marriage was really rocky,
ed up, splitting up, and we were separated for eight years.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow, that's not split job, woul, y'all separate. Now let's
get to you, Tracy. Tracy, you got Michael Jordan's ken.
You play basketball, brother, I asked you.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
That's the main part of the store. See, all my
life it was all about basketball. You know, I ain't
my player for just to go to the pros, go
college and go priy. I haven't played against Kevin Gordon
and that's one of my highlights on my life. But
down here that it wasn't no studying, no books, It wasn't.
(04:39):
My focus was on basketball. So my twelfth grade year
I banged my New York and basketball wasn't in a
picture no more. But since I spent all them years
focused on basketball, I had nothing to fall off from.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Fall back home to the streets. That's all I knew
was the streets.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
So things things had gotten bad, And I knew she
was the one because first I met her doing like
a shootout. It was a shootout, and I lost my
gold caps and I went back to go found my
gold caps. And I've seen Sunshine walking up the street
and it was like a little at first sight.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Lo, lo, lord, they need to stop. This man just
said it was a shootout, he lost his gold cap.
Then he says, Sunshine just calmly walking up the street. See, wow,
this story ain't adding up now either that there is
a file of the neighbor yours. Y'all in and sit
on my ducking bullets, because I'm gonna let y'all know
(05:37):
such time as an attractive drummer.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm gonna just tell y'all right now. So sometimes walking down.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
The street, bullets flying everywhere, he's looking for his gold caps.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Yeah, it was the day after.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I don't there.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
After, I don't even go down that street for a more.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I didn't see her first was a first, he did,
you can't know we've been cod block and going on.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Right, right, right, But yeah, I knew she was doing one. Right,
So let's get your story straight.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Because Rachean got out of her line because it was
the next day suns Tinne was walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But the way you told that story, though, Tracy, it's
all like, man, I.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Lost my good cap sometimes sometimes walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Slide fast bullets that for me for they proof, that's
what I saw. Continue, Tracy, you too much.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Boy, So you know the day for a while and
this I knew what she was doing. One like me
and my homeboy got into it with somebody and we
I think I thought we almost killed the dude.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
So we was on a run from.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
The police and the other dudes, and I caught Sunshine
and she came and scooped me up and.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
In the country, so I knew she was down for that, right.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
What i'ma just educate y'all. Now, See, this is our country,
he is see taking county is the country. So I
don't know what part of the country she went that
he calls the country, but I can assure you.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It gets real dark that night. I'm from the country.
I know what country looks like.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You got our house, you got a little thing next
to the bed. That's what he talked about country. I
know he talked about y'all. I think I got to
educate my people because they ain't never.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Had no country people like y'all on my call before now.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But but we having fun here because of the fact that.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's what you have to have to uplift people. You
have to have a sense of humor because there's so
much darkness in what y'all do.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Now, what motivated your son Shine as well as Tracy
to pursue this path because I see homeless people all
the time.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, one thing that I didn't mention earlier.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
While we were separated, there was a short time frame
where I was homeless, and but luckily I had my
brother that I could go with and you know, with
him probably for about a year until I got back
on my feet. Then I moved in with my mother, wow,
and then ended up getting you know, my own place back.
So that's pretty much my touch on, you.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Know, being connected with homelessness.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now, his story is a lot deeper as far as
homelessness is involved.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We moved to Anser and All and moved answer, and
I was doing good. I had got a good job,
were doing good. God bless us with the brand new trailer.
I mean, we were doing well for ourself. And then
my nephew got murdered. There was they were trying to
get I think they were trying to get me. But
since I moved, that got my nephew. Something in me snapped.
(09:04):
And when it snapped, I went back to the streets
and something. The first time I got my job broke
and my wife next time something happened like that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm gone.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Well about a couple months toobout.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
A year later, I tried to got shot up, and
that's when Sunshine she left. I did this for a while,
but all y'all men know, man, when that woman leave,
boy ay, everything falls apart. I'm gonna jump all the
way to the park. I was on the run from
the police. I was facing twenty five to life. That
(09:40):
what make me homeless?
Speaker 6 (09:42):
When you man, When I was out there doing my thing,
I would help a lot of people, and I had
a lot of homeboys.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But when you on the run, you find out who
really is your friends, You really know who got your back.
And I was only for eight years running from the
police and then one night of God just said, man,
turn yourself in.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So police station turned myself in.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I went to prison, I got out and I went
I went to a homeless shelter.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
I went there for.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Two years and it taught me how to turn my
life around instead of being a street person.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Turned my life towards God.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
About two weeks for it was a two a two
year program and back to the end, I started reaching
out for Sunshine. I ain't talked to him eight years,
so I couldn't find her. So about two weeks before graduation,
she called me and I'm like, man, as long as
you don't live in Piggins County, man, we can get
back together.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
But she lived right in Piggins County. She ain't go nowhere, nowhere,
so now so then, uh, yeah, I am. I know.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
God.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
God gave me a vision while I was in prison.
He gonna use what I went through to help other people.
But he didn't give me no instruction. So we came
back to Piggins County. We opened up a couple of
thriller stores. Uh, but nobody went and licensed me because
of my background. Nobody church Maacht likened me to preach,
but nobody told me to. This man came to us
(11:09):
sore and he he brought me in. When we went
to his church with four people and we my wife,
his wife, him, oh and our and our child was there.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
He groomed me for about two years and then he
passed away and gave us the church. When he gave
us the church, my first my first two sermons, we
had this homeless people coming to our shelf. It was
like during the cold season and we rolled around piggs hound,
I mean, with no homelean sheept to know where, so
we allowed them to stay inside of the church. Well,
(11:41):
we our church is old, I'm talking about old Catholic church,
so we have no sprinkling system. So somebody told on
us and they told us we couldn't do it no more.
So God say build it yourself. But this time, you
know how hard it is for a convid to get
a job. I found and dollar tree man, I told you,
(12:01):
and God told me to quit, and I didn't.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
I ain't up getting robbed in this day.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
So I said, I'm I'm with God all the way.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
And that's just part of the story right now.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's now, that's the word is said. That's a hell
of a story. At this part of the story, you
need to stop. I'm told, Glad, I'm telling something.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm told Glad, I ain't rob y'all be laughing. So
if I was around y'all, in fact, when I come
down there, be ready to laugh, be ready to laugh.
You not. I am coming down there, and I am
going to bait. I am going to personally serve my
desserts to your crew.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We would love to have you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Just you're just you, just to take a gas away.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So like I like, I'm stressing myself out, and like
I'm driving to California. Okay, then I have to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Then I don't know. I see y'all.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But with this story that you tell, I won't to
get to you to trace a lot of violence, man,
a lot of violence, and you lose a relative, but
you still got this personality of up left and positivity.
How have you not allowed those setbacks stop you from
being the person you are today?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
God shows me every day what he did for me.
He showed me his love is grace and his mercy.
One sect one you don't understand. Oh my angle management
came out. I was in prison, Okay, I mean years
in person, I mean years were you're in prison two years.
They dropped mostly all the charges because I turned myself in,
(13:44):
but I was in probation while I was doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
My roommate had nine hundred and ninety nine years.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Straight did jail two years.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Man across from here and damn there a thousand years
because I know you didn't tell that man you was
in there for two years.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
No, no.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Said, wait from go to church, go to church every day,
go to school.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I ain't see everyone they do.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Man, Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with
more Money Making Conversations Master Class. Welcome back to the
Money Making Conversations Master Class hosted by Rashaan McDonald.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
There was something staying interesting to me about the church
and you was bringing you bring homeless people in the church,
and they say that was against the rule.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Explain that to me, because I thought that's what the church.
Purpose of the church was to share the dity were.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Different, We were very different.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
We hain't got this couple in right and downstairs we
had a kitchen area and you know.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
What I'm saying, stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So we let them, we allowed them to stay down
there and we started getting back on their feet too.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
You know, they got their call, they got a nice job,
they got a call.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
They were going through the process, and then somebody heard
about it and we reported it because we because the
church wasn't built for that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And we don't have a sprinkler system. Yeah you know
one of those sprinkler systems and our church.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay, okay, cool, So it's like basically co violations.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Then we found the building, and then where the building
was it they said they ain't want that kind of
activity in their neighborhoods where they took.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
That building from us. But then we were finding blessed.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
For one right, So there, that's really good because I'd
like to break down because people hearing certain things that
make stereotype. But really y'all are doing a good deed,
but y'all violating codes right right.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
We didn't know?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, now you you you know, they can't be everywhere
because everybody don't want a shelter. Okay, you can just
open the shelter over here, people go. Those type people
we don't want near our business or near our homes.
So let's go through the process of finding the shelter,
(16:14):
getting the shelter approve, and then gathering funds to keep
it open. Let's let's find that shelter first, Sunshine.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Okay. So, like my husband said, the first building that
we got is exactly what you just described.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
It was in the neighborhood and people heard about it
and they were like, no, we don't We don't want
to shelter in our neighborhood. We were still searching for
another building. We had a family friend come to us
and he owned a lot of properties, and so he said,
you know, I think I got a building that wo
worked good, you know, for a homeless shelter for y'all.
So we went and looked at it, and that building
(16:48):
needed a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It was really big.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It was about six thousand square feet upstairs got like
two thousand square feet, but it was completely did It
was like just a big open warehouse face, no walls,
no flooring, no ceiling anything.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It needed a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So we were sitting there thinking, how in the world
are we going to get this building, you know, up
to code to become my own in a shelter. So
I started reaching.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Out to people. That's one thing I do.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I stayed on the grind, reaching out and especially once
my husband told me his vision on what he wanted
to do as far as opening a shelter. So I
started contacting companies, contractors, CEOs and telling them, you know
what our plans are and that we got this building
that needs a lot of work. Before I knew it,
the project took off. We had all the companies pouring
(17:41):
into us. Lows came in and started building walls on
one side. Home depot came in, started pouring in money,
Churches came together and started putting down flooring, ceiling, and
before we knew it.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Took two years to get done. But before we knew it,
we we did it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
To build a new hours take about six months to
a year.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Now, okay, so do y'all did the wows two years?
That's pretty quick. That's pretty quick.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
With no funding, with no fund and reduced some fighting
to hold off, fighting, hold fight because nobody they painted
the picture is they didn't have a problem.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, yes, and so we had to go up and
getting a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
But when we finally got the word to open, the
pandemic hit that same day.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes, wow, it took us two years, It.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Did pant did come along.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
It was a Friday when we got our certificate of
occupancy to open.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
At least you got that. But God was good to
give you that. Now, if the party a hit and
you didn't get the certificate, even in the summer time
for you looking around for a certificate.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
But the people don't get twisted. We're not a big corporation, right.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
So when we was building a shelf, it was me
and my wife doing the trips to loads, get the pipes,
to get the flooring, to get it was me and
my wife doing it because thed Blessings with all a
boss truck. So everything that we did, it would just
meet in my own wife and it caused her to
(19:23):
have a lot of health problems, right.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Right, Yeah, I've got a congestive heart failure.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Now, okay, so but how you what you're doing to
that is that you're more sleep or you're taking pills
for that, sunshine.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I'm taking pills for it.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I've actually hospitalized twice since twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm on medication.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Okay, Well, we all well be down there to see you. Okay,
give your hugs because I'm good at that. I got
six sisters. Now, so Jeorge, what I or your wife?
Don't be dunking on my head now, I know you're
you're being shooting up even I come back, I got
shot out of Pickings counted. You thought I was trying
to play on your wife. I'm just ugging though.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I brought Tim Kinks down there. Come on now, tell
y'all watch Tracy. Yeah to watch Tracy man.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
He be waking over there, man rolling dice in the corner.
Let's talk about this award though, because you know, I've
been blessed to get a presidential lifetime ate the ward
sitting off, I've gotten two of them. At first, when
I got my first one, I didn't. I couldn't believe
that somebody nominated me won. And the second that I
(20:36):
got it, okay, I got it for real presidential lifetime achievement.
The ward okay, sitting on my office on my wall.
Now we down there at Pinkings Pickings, Pickings County, South Carolina.
You know, looking at your life, you know YO came together,
(20:57):
separated Tracy two years and concertrated, sat across the man
with a thousand years.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You know, shootouts, did the wrong things, more wrong things
you did right in your early years. Yes, I can
say that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I can say that, and such show you don't getting
that with it, hormlest lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And now y'all gonna get the president.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Y'all got it. I'm not gonna get got it. Talk
about that journey such and then I want to hear
from country over there.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I'm calling them country traits. Talk to me such.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It was kind of with our commendation letters, started like
with local government, started like with our local mayors.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Then it went up to like our local governors.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
And then with the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award, I'm like, wow, okay,
so yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You really made it.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It was just it was it was shocking I put
it that way.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, it ain't shocking to me because you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
And that young man sitting right next to you, Tracy,
you know because you know, because Tracy know what, Because
a lot of things are expected of people, and then
when they fall off that track, then people don't expect
anything of them. You a man if a faith, hard work,
(22:26):
and understand set back. You know, you because in some
way you saw the lords of life because you get.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Behind the brow. I got a brother, or that a
brother who was behind broad I know that.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I know that look across the other side when I
know that person has no rights, no more on that
other side. And you see that every day man at
that homeless shelter, fifty sixty people you're feeding on a
daily base. How do your inspirational lifestyle is told to
them to keep them going because you are a difference maker.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yes, yes, sir, uh I stay my testimony. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I'm not no ordinary pastor. I'm I'm not like the
other ones.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Man, I'm really down to earth, and I don't I
don't forget where I come from. I really don't. And
I share my story to show them that if I
can make it, they can make it too. And it's
not about my preaching.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's about my walk. I walked the talking.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Times come up and I know they're watching me, but
get cussed out they watching me. So instead of cussing back,
I gotta parint. So I got I got to live
by example because my life man, people did already talking,
but they live differently. If I'm gonna walk this, if
I'm gonna talk this talk, I'm gonna walk it. And
I got to show them. Man, no matter what you've
(23:47):
been through in your life, God could take you further
in life if you just got to let you do that.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You to it. I can't forget where I came from. Man,
I'm about to do something stupid. God will remind me
of a cold.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Toilet right right right, well, my brother and my sister,
I want to donate one thousand dollars, thank you, thousand dollars.
And I'm gonna tell you something right now, such and
get that W nine to me today so I can
have my wife process it and we put that check
(24:20):
in the mail on Tuesday morning. Okay, thousand dollars to
your foundation. Just get that W nine to me today
and that that's gonna happen. And I'm gonna come down
there and I'm gonna bake for you, Trace.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm not gonna bay for Sunshine. I'm baked for you, Tracy.
And I think I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bring
it all already done. I'm gonna bring it.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I would just lay my back of my truck down,
put it all in the drive down there so we
can unload it all to y'all can see by work
and we take photos and all that good stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
I just want to be gonna dolation part.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
We want to say thank you because we do not
charge our residents to stay there, right, And I said,
I don't get paid to preach. All the money go
towards go towards the shelter, and we really lean on God.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
And what you just did that is from God. We
really want to say thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Hey man, thank you cause you know I don't get
by changed on all my interviews. Okay, I have to
be inspired to Okay, I work after my money.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I'm just doing right.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Dow checks Okay, A thousand dollars, okay, I can do.
I buy some shoes, some clothes, get on the trip,
go to Miami. Okay, I work hard, but I also
know y'all work harder. Y'all changing lives and so well,
about thousand dollars gonna affect way more people than myself.
(25:45):
But more important than two things I promise to you,
and I can start one today. I'm gonna see you
those photos of those little three little the little bitty bottles.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I'm gonna say that photo to y'all. I gotta work
to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I this call got right chicks, kind of got mail
and eye it licks stamps.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I gotta do everything, y'all for people to work.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't know if I'm ever interview y'all again, yeap
for me to work. I gotta bake, I gotta write
a check out, I gotta mail stuff, I gotta take
a photo. That's a lot of work for this interview, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
But thank y'all. Thank y'all for CONCERNTU.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Thank thank yous to such I thank you for contacting me, Tracy,
Thank you for allowing me to meet you. Brother and
y'all beautiful couple men and uh hey man, and you
stay healthy, young lady, you stay healthy and uh but
get that information to me today. So I give my
wife the process it because I feel good about my
life to be able to position, to be any position
to make this type of donation.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And then I'm gonna come down there and see you. Tracy.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I just want to say thank you for taking the
time to interviews. Thank you for even paying attention to us, because,
like you said, being from world Pickings County, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Always telling that people were listening when somebody from the
country said they living somebody else.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
They don't living in the country.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That's the part of the country you don't even want
to go in. That's the part of the counting. You
have no idea where you going. Okay, word they said,
turn right at the tree, the big oak, or the mailbox.
(27:30):
If the cow is still standing there, make a left.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
The only run down born.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Make a left, and that you come to the end
of the road. If you see a rock, make a left.
I'll be standing there the road waving.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I loveth for y'all.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I want to thank y'all for coming on Money Making
Conversation Basterclass.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I will see y'all suer. Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
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by me Rushaun McDonald. Thank you to our guests on
the show today and thank you o listening to audience now.
If you want to listen to any episode I want
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