March 18, 2022 • 17 mins
Today Zainab shares shares mental health tips for dealing with rejection for aspiring actors and entrepreneurs as well as the values her family instilled in her that have propelled her career in the entertainment industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Money Movers, Welcome back to Money Moves, the daily
podcast determined to give you the keys to the Kingdom
of financial stability, wealth and abundance. Once again, I'm super
excited to welcome another special celebrity guest who's here to
(00:22):
care with us the details of her journey to success
and the move she's made to get there. She's a
stand up comedian, actress, writer who was quickly bringing a
unique and engaging presence to the stage on every project
she touches. You've seen her on the Last comic Standing, Netflix,
Humans and the History of Swear Words, and as well
(00:44):
on one of my favorite pandemic TV shows, Amazon Primes
Upload Money Moves Family, Please help me welcome Zanab Johnson
to the podcast. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Zanab. It is such
a pleasure to have you here speaking on our Money
Moves podcast. How are you today? And well? Come? Oh,
thank you so much for having me, Kanye, I'm I'm well,
(01:04):
like I'm sitting here with you. I have no complaints whatsoever.
You know. I love having conversations like this because I
think sometimes people doubt that the magic is out there,
but everybody has magic. They just have to believe and
you know, allow yourself to follow it. And that doesn't
mean you're not working hard. It doesn't mean you're not
doing all sorts of things like you were talking about
jobs that you know, we're less than glamorous, but sometimes
(01:26):
you've got to sort of do a little bit of
both to get to where you're meant to be. M Yeah,
absolutely in l A. You know that happens. Like I
was on like a popular show on B E T
at the time. I mean they didn't pay us anything.
No shades to BT, but I mean they didn't pay
us anything for it, and so I had to go
get like a regular job, remember working in a spa
(01:46):
feeling like you know, people are people are gonna wonder
like what you know? This is like before things were
going like viral like that, so I didn't have to
worry about you know, somebody taking a picture and then
the internet going easy on it. But it definitely, uh
forced humility, and I think that takes you a long
(02:06):
way to which and also again like thank you for
your candor because you're sharing these stories because oftentimes people
will have those moments when they're down there like it's
not working. I'm not where I'm supposed to be. But
you know, everybody has been there, and the more transparent
we are, I think it inspires more people to just
keep going pursuing your dreams day after day. Absolutely absolutely so.
(02:29):
Now you're in comedy, Now you're pumping out some great
TV shows that you should be very, very proud of.
Let's go back to family values. You know, on in
Greenwood and on our podcast here, we like to talk
about how are you know financial wealth can be grown
and sort of plant seeds for generations after generations. You
come from a very big family, can you think back
(02:51):
to how your family sort of um taught financial values
or perhaps they didn't teach financial values. They did not Unfortunately,
they did not teach financial values, meaning I mean, I
knew that you went out and worked and you worked
(03:11):
hard to provide for your family. That's what I saw
my father do. It's a lot of us. So I
saw him do that day in and day out, and
I saw my mom hold down her part of the partnership,
you know. Um. But I think the thing that was
definitely lacking was financial literacy. You know, I was never
taught like what to do. We never talked about bank
(03:33):
accounts and um credits and like that. You know that
never happened. My first job was at the Gap. I'll
never forget. I worked at the Gap in Manhattan on
forty second and third Avenue, and I remember being so
happy when I came home with my first check and
my father told me, he said, okay, now you have
to give up a third of that to the house.
(03:54):
And I was like, well, the house ain't come with
me to work. I folded all those hoodies all right,
and he was like, no, this is what happens. The
moment you start working, you contribute to this. And so
I always because of that, there was always something and
filled in me that you that you have to carry
(04:16):
your weight, that you contribute to the whole. But beyond that,
it was like he didn't say, you should say or
you should look into this. And I only think that
they didn't because they didn't know. You know. Yeah, That's
why I love having these conversations. I appreciate having a
platform like this to educate so many more because oftentimes
(04:37):
our parents did not know. They were just like, look,
you know my parents were a first generation from West Africa,
and you know they were like, I came here I
need to make money, I need to pay my bills,
and it's just keep going. And I think we're this
next generation, are you know, afforded the opportunity to just
do better and learn as much as we can. So
(04:57):
I appreciate that. Let's go back to your career here,
and you've already spoken about how you have really tried
to use your intuition to guide you. Can you talk
about some of the pitfalls that you've stumbled across, you know,
growing up in the entertainment industry that you could perhaps
share with some of our audience so that they too
can avoid some of those pitfalls or pivots that you've
(05:17):
had to make. Um, let's see, let's see. Uh. I
would definitely say that in times, the times where I
was like arrogant um or you know, unwilling to like
hear someone because they weren't typically like my ideal of success,
(05:45):
I think that that worked against me. Like you know,
sometimes we put value in people's position, people's current status
in life there, uh, you know, how much they're worth whatever,
And we think because they're there and we aspire to
(06:05):
be there, that they're the only ones that have gems right,
And the reality is everybody has a story and everybody
has experiences, and we learned from people's greatness and we
learn from people's failures all the time. And I think
that the moments that I have, I don't know, not
been at my best. It's either from not listening because
(06:28):
I didn't deem them worthy, which I definitely regret, or
doubting myself, you know, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, And I
don't know if I have anything specific, Like you know,
this is a business of noses, you know, I get
told no more than anything ever, And how do you
(06:54):
deal with that? Because it's tough, you know, and that
stands to I mean, it's absolutely true in the entertainment
this US. You know, it's also true for entrepreneurs as
they're out there fundraising and you're getting fifty nose? What
are the secrets that you do to like uplift yourself
and like keep going. UM. I maintain um friendships and
(07:15):
friendships with like good people, people who are there when
I can't love myself, when I can't uh pour into myself,
I know that they're there to sort of pick me up.
Very recently, I've started breathwork. I have to This is
so new for me. The pandemic. I have to, but
(07:37):
it like opens up my heart and my body and
it frees me of a lot of the anxiety that
comes with forget entertainment, being an entrepreneur, Like you know,
part of being like an entrepreneur in this business is like,
oh that's a big, nice fat check, Like, oh my god,
now six months has had and I haven't and paid anything,
(08:00):
you know, Like, so it can be really anxiety. And
so the breath work recently has been helping me. I
will say that that is the one thing that has
come out of the pandemic that I am so grateful for,
um my meditation practice and very recently breathwork because we
were locked in the house and those were two things
that I had never never done and now it's part
(08:23):
of my daily practice and I just I'm so grateful
for it. Yeah, you know what. Also, I kind of
got cool within the pandemic, like being okay with doing
nothing sometimes. And I don't mean doing nothing like you
know what, I quit life, not like that, but just
like sitting yep and not thinking, not reading, not worrying,
(08:48):
not moving, you know, and just allowing that stillness to
just kind of be like that's really really help I
get it. It's it's I I call it my It's
Tanya time, like, and it's different things like sometimes I'm
having like literally a solo dance party and sometimes I'm
just me. So those are like really important things and
(09:10):
I'm glad you share those because I think, you know,
especially for Black women, we don't often give ourselves the
chance to just be still, and there's just so much
value and return in it and just being able to
hear more and more women say I just I was
just still. I gave myself the gift of stillness. It's
a big deal and I think it's so healthy, it's
(09:30):
such it's a beautiful thing. So glad you said that
because oftentimes, you know, we don't want to ruffle anyone's
feathers or it makes us uncomfortable, but you have to
do it because nobody else is going to do it
for you, and that is that is a huge lesson.
I feel like the older, you know, as we grow
throughout life, that like we need to really understand as
black women as well. Yeah, I did this show and
(09:52):
a feature for comedian Um And I did this show
in Florida and Tampa, Florida and I remember another comedian
telling me, if you ever do Tampa, don't stay at
the Future. Don't stay at the Future condo. It's a
dumb right. And when I got there, Tanya, it was
truly the trap house. I mean, it was disgusting, it
was dirty, it was under like scaffolding, it was it
(10:16):
was It was the last thing that anybody wants to say,
but especially a single woman in the city ship I'm
familiar with. And I remember thinking, I don't want to
speak up because I don't Not only do I not
want to ruin my chances, I also don't want to
ruin it for all the women will come out, of course,
of course. Yeah, But like I said, something told me, no,
(10:41):
go back. You have to teach people. You have to
decide what it is that you're worth, what it is
that you're willing to do and not do, and you
gotta just stand in it. And then you were not
willing to die in a trap motel in Tampa period,
exactly exactly, And I was willing. I went and booked
myself a hotel like a holiday or something, um, and
(11:02):
I did all the shows and I didn't say anything
about it. I did all the shows and At the
end of the weekend, the manager of the club cank
to me and he was like, you did so great
this weekend. I'm going to pay for the hotel. And
I'm like, thank you. That's the noble thing to do.
That is the noble thing to do. That is totally
the no, and the universe had your back. Yeah, but
(11:22):
I had to decide like, no, no, no, I'm unwilling
to accept this, and sometimes you do. Sometimes it does
feel like you're going to lose in the moment, but
I truly believe that ultimately it will be a win
for you. Yes, I agree, I agree. So all right,
so you had to pay to play in the early days.
(11:43):
Do you feel like, what was the point that you realized, Okay,
I've got something here and I can just close my eyes,
pat yourself on the back and say I might be
really successful at this. Because there's is there one pivotal
point where you really felt like you were on the
right path. Um, there were a few actual pivotal points.
(12:04):
I remember I won an HBO stands up competition at
the a b FF Film Festival and it was all guys.
It was all guys. I went last, like Lee was
sitting right in the front. I was nervous and I
freaking killed that ship can occur. I'm sorry because that's
exactly what you did. Yeah, and then I started like
(12:25):
meeting with all of these exacs that HBO. I remember,
I was afraid when I did Last Comic Standing. I
was in agreeing room with with a bunch of male
comedians who have been talking about how they had done
it for twenty years, and I felt like, what am
I doing here? And then I went out and I
killed it, you know, And and then I started getting
meeting guy. I ended up selling a TV show with
(12:47):
one decits like every the moment that I knew that
this was gonna work out for me, to be very
honest with you, I think was the that first open
mike that I did. Wow. And yeah, I just think
because it felt different, you know, like we can all
(13:08):
go out out here and make money. Um. And I
am of the belief that I want to enjoy life
as I'm making money. I want to enjoy what I'm doing.
And nothing had ever felt that good to me. You know.
I know how good it feels because even when I fail,
even when I bomb, even when I get booed, on stage.
(13:29):
It only makes me want to do it more. And
so that's the thing that lets me know, like, yeah,
you're you're You're gonna be great. Uh. Somebody told me recently,
they were like, you, I've never seen somebody bomb so
confidently like you. And I was like, yeah, because I
love this so much and I know that it's an
inevitable that I'll be great at this, and so bombing
(13:52):
is just a part of that journey. Oh my gosh,
well I love that. I you have turned me into
a complete cheerleader for you, saying now like I'm gonna
be cheering you on bomb or no bomb. I can't
imagine you bombing. However, Uh, we got you, We got you,
Thank you, Thank you very much. So for aspiring comics,
(14:14):
what is the advice that you would give now? You
spoke a little bit about how the nature of the
game has changed with like online comics and this, What
is the advice you would give to somebody now, Um,
if they wanted to really pursue a career in comedy,
I would say, decide how you want to pursue that
career in comedy, meaning start at the end, like what
(14:36):
is it that you want and then reverse engineering. If
you want to be considered a great um, then that
probably starts with the pen and the paper. People who
are great comedians aren't the ones that make a quick
one minute video. No ship, No that's not That's not
a slight to anybody. But if you want to be
(14:59):
you know, if you want to be a great stand
up comedian, then that starts with depending the paper, That
starts with what's your p O vs. Etcetera. Um, if
you want to you know, sell out and travel and
make funny videos and building, then you do. You know,
there's so many different avenues, which is great. If you
want to be a really funny comedic actress, you know,
then then you got to get into class. You have
(15:20):
to take classes and are specific to that, you know,
and so that when you are in a position to audition,
when you get those opportunities, you can really you know,
make the most of them. But I say you start
at the end, you decide what you want and reverse
and and then you reverse. Yeah, you're verse engineerings smart
advice from a very wise woman. Alright, Zane, So can
you tell us what's coming up for you next, where
(15:42):
we can find you and what we are working on Yeah,
I mean on all social media platforms. It's just my
name is Zane A. Johnson, very simples, the AI and
A B. Johnson. I have like dates now. My calendar
is filling up, so definitely we go to my wedding
world open and we can't wait to hear you. Yeah, yeah,
(16:04):
comes to it. If I'm in a city near you,
please come and see me. To see me for an
hour is an experience. Um. We just wrapped on Upload
season two. Yeah, so I don't have the release date
for that, but when it does come out, please check
out Upload season too. If you haven't watched it yet,
then you know, follow tans lead and check out Upload
(16:27):
season were good, guys, it'll kind of blow your mind.
Um literally, but I love your character on there. I
think you are just perfect like this, you know, super fun,
outgoing black woman who just tells it like it is.
And I just I love how you influence that show.
So it's really great to see you there. And I
(16:48):
hope you guys check her out on social media. Make
sure you follow her on social so you find out
if she's coming to a town near you, and of
course check out Amazon for Upload. It's a great great program.
It will really get your brain thinking in ZANEA, thank
you so much for coming today and sharing all your
wisdom and insights on your journey. It was such a pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me. This has been
(17:08):
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Hey, Money Movers, Welcome back to Money Moves, the daily
podcast determined to give you the keys to the Kingdom
of financial stability, wealth and abundance. Once again, I'm super
excited to welcome another special celebrity guest who's here to
(00:22):
care with us the details of her journey to success
and the move she's made to get there. She's a
stand up comedian, actress, writer who was quickly bringing a
unique and engaging presence to the stage on every project
she touches. You've seen her on the Last comic Standing, Netflix,
Humans and the History of Swear Words, and as well
(00:44):
on one of my favorite pandemic TV shows, Amazon Primes
Upload Money Moves Family, Please help me welcome Zanab Johnson
to the podcast. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Zanab. It is such
a pleasure to have you here speaking on our Money
Moves podcast. How are you today? And well? Come? Oh,
thank you so much for having me, Kanye, I'm I'm well,
(01:04):
like I'm sitting here with you. I have no complaints whatsoever.
You know. I love having conversations like this because I
think sometimes people doubt that the magic is out there,
but everybody has magic. They just have to believe and
you know, allow yourself to follow it. And that doesn't
mean you're not working hard. It doesn't mean you're not
doing all sorts of things like you were talking about
jobs that you know, we're less than glamorous, but sometimes
(01:26):
you've got to sort of do a little bit of
both to get to where you're meant to be. M Yeah,
absolutely in l A. You know that happens. Like I
was on like a popular show on B E T
at the time. I mean they didn't pay us anything.
No shades to BT, but I mean they didn't pay
us anything for it, and so I had to go
get like a regular job, remember working in a spa
(01:46):
feeling like you know, people are people are gonna wonder
like what you know? This is like before things were
going like viral like that, so I didn't have to
worry about you know, somebody taking a picture and then
the internet going easy on it. But it definitely, uh
forced humility, and I think that takes you a long
(02:06):
way to which and also again like thank you for
your candor because you're sharing these stories because oftentimes people
will have those moments when they're down there like it's
not working. I'm not where I'm supposed to be. But
you know, everybody has been there, and the more transparent
we are, I think it inspires more people to just
keep going pursuing your dreams day after day. Absolutely absolutely so.
(02:29):
Now you're in comedy, Now you're pumping out some great
TV shows that you should be very, very proud of.
Let's go back to family values. You know, on in
Greenwood and on our podcast here, we like to talk
about how are you know financial wealth can be grown
and sort of plant seeds for generations after generations. You
come from a very big family, can you think back
(02:51):
to how your family sort of um taught financial values
or perhaps they didn't teach financial values. They did not Unfortunately,
they did not teach financial values, meaning I mean, I
knew that you went out and worked and you worked
(03:11):
hard to provide for your family. That's what I saw
my father do. It's a lot of us. So I
saw him do that day in and day out, and
I saw my mom hold down her part of the partnership,
you know. Um. But I think the thing that was
definitely lacking was financial literacy. You know, I was never
taught like what to do. We never talked about bank
(03:33):
accounts and um credits and like that. You know that
never happened. My first job was at the Gap. I'll
never forget. I worked at the Gap in Manhattan on
forty second and third Avenue, and I remember being so
happy when I came home with my first check and
my father told me, he said, okay, now you have
to give up a third of that to the house.
(03:54):
And I was like, well, the house ain't come with
me to work. I folded all those hoodies all right,
and he was like, no, this is what happens. The
moment you start working, you contribute to this. And so
I always because of that, there was always something and
filled in me that you that you have to carry
(04:16):
your weight, that you contribute to the whole. But beyond that,
it was like he didn't say, you should say or
you should look into this. And I only think that
they didn't because they didn't know. You know. Yeah, That's
why I love having these conversations. I appreciate having a
platform like this to educate so many more because oftentimes
(04:37):
our parents did not know. They were just like, look,
you know my parents were a first generation from West Africa,
and you know they were like, I came here I
need to make money, I need to pay my bills,
and it's just keep going. And I think we're this
next generation, are you know, afforded the opportunity to just
do better and learn as much as we can. So
(04:57):
I appreciate that. Let's go back to your career here,
and you've already spoken about how you have really tried
to use your intuition to guide you. Can you talk
about some of the pitfalls that you've stumbled across, you know,
growing up in the entertainment industry that you could perhaps
share with some of our audience so that they too
can avoid some of those pitfalls or pivots that you've
(05:17):
had to make. Um, let's see, let's see. Uh. I
would definitely say that in times, the times where I
was like arrogant um or you know, unwilling to like
hear someone because they weren't typically like my ideal of success,
(05:45):
I think that that worked against me. Like you know,
sometimes we put value in people's position, people's current status
in life there, uh, you know, how much they're worth whatever,
And we think because they're there and we aspire to
(06:05):
be there, that they're the only ones that have gems right,
And the reality is everybody has a story and everybody
has experiences, and we learned from people's greatness and we
learn from people's failures all the time. And I think
that the moments that I have, I don't know, not
been at my best. It's either from not listening because
(06:28):
I didn't deem them worthy, which I definitely regret, or
doubting myself, you know, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, And I
don't know if I have anything specific, Like you know,
this is a business of noses, you know, I get
told no more than anything ever, And how do you
(06:54):
deal with that? Because it's tough, you know, and that
stands to I mean, it's absolutely true in the entertainment
this US. You know, it's also true for entrepreneurs as
they're out there fundraising and you're getting fifty nose? What
are the secrets that you do to like uplift yourself
and like keep going. UM. I maintain um friendships and
(07:15):
friendships with like good people, people who are there when
I can't love myself, when I can't uh pour into myself,
I know that they're there to sort of pick me up.
Very recently, I've started breathwork. I have to This is
so new for me. The pandemic. I have to, but
(07:37):
it like opens up my heart and my body and
it frees me of a lot of the anxiety that
comes with forget entertainment, being an entrepreneur, Like you know,
part of being like an entrepreneur in this business is like,
oh that's a big, nice fat check, Like, oh my god,
now six months has had and I haven't and paid anything,
(08:00):
you know, Like, so it can be really anxiety. And
so the breath work recently has been helping me. I
will say that that is the one thing that has
come out of the pandemic that I am so grateful for,
um my meditation practice and very recently breathwork because we
were locked in the house and those were two things
that I had never never done and now it's part
(08:23):
of my daily practice and I just I'm so grateful
for it. Yeah, you know what. Also, I kind of
got cool within the pandemic, like being okay with doing
nothing sometimes. And I don't mean doing nothing like you
know what, I quit life, not like that, but just
like sitting yep and not thinking, not reading, not worrying,
(08:48):
not moving, you know, and just allowing that stillness to
just kind of be like that's really really help I
get it. It's it's I I call it my It's
Tanya time, like, and it's different things like sometimes I'm
having like literally a solo dance party and sometimes I'm
just me. So those are like really important things and
(09:10):
I'm glad you share those because I think, you know,
especially for Black women, we don't often give ourselves the
chance to just be still, and there's just so much
value and return in it and just being able to
hear more and more women say I just I was
just still. I gave myself the gift of stillness. It's
a big deal and I think it's so healthy, it's
(09:30):
such it's a beautiful thing. So glad you said that
because oftentimes, you know, we don't want to ruffle anyone's
feathers or it makes us uncomfortable, but you have to
do it because nobody else is going to do it
for you, and that is that is a huge lesson.
I feel like the older, you know, as we grow
throughout life, that like we need to really understand as
black women as well. Yeah, I did this show and
(09:52):
a feature for comedian Um And I did this show
in Florida and Tampa, Florida and I remember another comedian
telling me, if you ever do Tampa, don't stay at
the Future. Don't stay at the Future condo. It's a
dumb right. And when I got there, Tanya, it was
truly the trap house. I mean, it was disgusting, it
was dirty, it was under like scaffolding, it was it
(10:16):
was It was the last thing that anybody wants to say,
but especially a single woman in the city ship I'm
familiar with. And I remember thinking, I don't want to
speak up because I don't Not only do I not
want to ruin my chances, I also don't want to
ruin it for all the women will come out, of course,
of course. Yeah, But like I said, something told me, no,
(10:41):
go back. You have to teach people. You have to
decide what it is that you're worth, what it is
that you're willing to do and not do, and you
gotta just stand in it. And then you were not
willing to die in a trap motel in Tampa period,
exactly exactly, And I was willing. I went and booked
myself a hotel like a holiday or something, um, and
(11:02):
I did all the shows and I didn't say anything
about it. I did all the shows and At the
end of the weekend, the manager of the club cank
to me and he was like, you did so great
this weekend. I'm going to pay for the hotel. And
I'm like, thank you. That's the noble thing to do.
That is the noble thing to do. That is totally
the no, and the universe had your back. Yeah, but
(11:22):
I had to decide like, no, no, no, I'm unwilling
to accept this, and sometimes you do. Sometimes it does
feel like you're going to lose in the moment, but
I truly believe that ultimately it will be a win
for you. Yes, I agree, I agree. So all right,
so you had to pay to play in the early days.
(11:43):
Do you feel like, what was the point that you realized, Okay,
I've got something here and I can just close my eyes,
pat yourself on the back and say I might be
really successful at this. Because there's is there one pivotal
point where you really felt like you were on the
right path. Um, there were a few actual pivotal points.
(12:04):
I remember I won an HBO stands up competition at
the a b FF Film Festival and it was all guys.
It was all guys. I went last, like Lee was
sitting right in the front. I was nervous and I
freaking killed that ship can occur. I'm sorry because that's
exactly what you did. Yeah, and then I started like
(12:25):
meeting with all of these exacs that HBO. I remember,
I was afraid when I did Last Comic Standing. I
was in agreeing room with with a bunch of male
comedians who have been talking about how they had done
it for twenty years, and I felt like, what am
I doing here? And then I went out and I
killed it, you know, And and then I started getting
meeting guy. I ended up selling a TV show with
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one decits like every the moment that I knew that
this was gonna work out for me, to be very
honest with you, I think was the that first open
mike that I did. Wow. And yeah, I just think
because it felt different, you know, like we can all
(13:08):
go out out here and make money. Um. And I
am of the belief that I want to enjoy life
as I'm making money. I want to enjoy what I'm doing.
And nothing had ever felt that good to me. You know.
I know how good it feels because even when I fail,
even when I bomb, even when I get booed, on stage.
(13:29):
It only makes me want to do it more. And
so that's the thing that lets me know, like, yeah,
you're you're You're gonna be great. Uh. Somebody told me recently,
they were like, you, I've never seen somebody bomb so
confidently like you. And I was like, yeah, because I
love this so much and I know that it's an
inevitable that I'll be great at this, and so bombing
(13:52):
is just a part of that journey. Oh my gosh,
well I love that. I you have turned me into
a complete cheerleader for you, saying now like I'm gonna
be cheering you on bomb or no bomb. I can't
imagine you bombing. However, Uh, we got you, We got you,
Thank you, Thank you very much. So for aspiring comics,
(14:14):
what is the advice that you would give now? You
spoke a little bit about how the nature of the
game has changed with like online comics and this, What
is the advice you would give to somebody now, Um,
if they wanted to really pursue a career in comedy,
I would say, decide how you want to pursue that
career in comedy, meaning start at the end, like what
(14:36):
is it that you want and then reverse engineering. If
you want to be considered a great um, then that
probably starts with the pen and the paper. People who
are great comedians aren't the ones that make a quick
one minute video. No ship, No that's not That's not
a slight to anybody. But if you want to be
(14:59):
you know, if you want to be a great stand
up comedian, then that starts with depending the paper, That
starts with what's your p O vs. Etcetera. Um, if
you want to you know, sell out and travel and
make funny videos and building, then you do. You know,
there's so many different avenues, which is great. If you
want to be a really funny comedic actress, you know,
then then you got to get into class. You have
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to take classes and are specific to that, you know,
and so that when you are in a position to audition,
when you get those opportunities, you can really you know,
make the most of them. But I say you start
at the end, you decide what you want and reverse
and and then you reverse. Yeah, you're verse engineerings smart
advice from a very wise woman. Alright, Zane, So can
you tell us what's coming up for you next, where
(15:42):
we can find you and what we are working on Yeah,
I mean on all social media platforms. It's just my
name is Zane A. Johnson, very simples, the AI and
A B. Johnson. I have like dates now. My calendar
is filling up, so definitely we go to my wedding
world open and we can't wait to hear you. Yeah, yeah,
(16:04):
comes to it. If I'm in a city near you,
please come and see me. To see me for an
hour is an experience. Um. We just wrapped on Upload
season two. Yeah, so I don't have the release date
for that, but when it does come out, please check
out Upload season too. If you haven't watched it yet,
then you know, follow tans lead and check out Upload
(16:27):
season were good, guys, it'll kind of blow your mind.
Um literally, but I love your character on there. I
think you are just perfect like this, you know, super fun,
outgoing black woman who just tells it like it is.
And I just I love how you influence that show.
So it's really great to see you there. And I
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hope you guys check her out on social media. Make
sure you follow her on social so you find out
if she's coming to a town near you, and of
course check out Amazon for Upload. It's a great great program.
It will really get your brain thinking in ZANEA, thank
you so much for coming today and sharing all your
wisdom and insights on your journey. It was such a pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me. This has been
(17:08):
a pleasure. Thank you, Hey, Money Movers. If you want
to hear more about Zane App's journey or get a
transcript of this excellent session, please go to Bank Readwood
dot com and check out the Money Moves blog. Thank
you so much for tuning in Money Moves audience. If
you want more or a recap of this episode, please
go to the Bank Greenwood dot com and check out
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