September 13, 2022 • 24 mins
Brycent is content creator and professional gamer. He has combined his passion of playing video games into a lucrative business through Web3.
He joins the podcast to talk about how to get paid playing games on and how Web3 is changing the video game market.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, money Movers, Welcome back to Money Moves, the daily
podcast determined to give you the keys to the Kingdom
of financial stability, wealth and abundance. This episode is brought
to you by master Card, bridging the wealth gap together
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with Green. Our next guest is a professional gamer. Yes
you heard me right, gamers that professionally play and are
recognized and make money doing this. So gone are the
days of your parents saying you can't make money through
playing games, because Bryson is here to tell you otherwise.
Money Movers, please welcome to the podcast. Gamer Bryson. Hey Bryson, Hey,
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thank you so much for having me. I know this
was like a spur of the moment thing, and I'm
so thankful that you guys decided to have me on
the show to talk about gaming and Web three and
what I do in this space because it's kind of weird,
but I think the viewers will love to hear what
you can do in gaming and how much money you
can actually make. Well. I love this and I'm so excited.
M Bryson. I want you to tell our listeners a
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little bit about yourself and how you got here. You're young.
I already know this because we've been friends from the
web three space, but you're twenty seven years old. You've
made a name for yourself and gaming, and it's actually
especially in our community. I think it's really interesting because
I feel like every black parent was like, turn off
those games. You can't make money from games, go and study,
and so this is kind of a big ha ha
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ha movement right now because you were actually doing that,
You were making money from games. You're educating other people.
So tell us how you got here. Yeah, for sure.
So I mean luckily, growing up, my parents weren't like
opposed to the whole video game pray and frenzy. And
I've been like a gaming edict for my entire life.
So like as a kid, my mom and my dad
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would you know, they take me to gaming events like
up and down the East Coast because I used to
play mad and competitively. I was like eight nineteen years old,
and they just really believed in gaming. And of course
you don't, I did well in school, so they were
fine letting me go all do pretty much whatever I wanted.
But I mean sometimes I would stay up from like,
you know, the time that they got home from work
until the time that they got woke up the next
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day and went to work again, I would still be gaming.
So I've been gaming for a long time. Wow, Okay,
but that's really interesting that your parents were so cool.
But I think the thing also that you said is
it like I still did well in school. They just
kind of let you hid your reign. So you were
playing Madden competitively from eight or nine years old, and
how did you like? What makes you great at being
a gamer? Well? The interesting thing is like before you
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had to actually be like one of the top top
players in these games to make money. Um, And recently,
within the last year year and a half, I found
the web three gaming space where people actually make money
as a byproduct of playing the games and you don't
even have to be the best in the world. You
used to be an ordinary gamer and you can make money.
So it was kind of weird when I dove into
this space and realized that there was all these business
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opportunities to do this full time. And that's when I
kind of started really building the following it beforehand, like
the gaming and like the Web two ecosystem of like
the Madden's and called duties. It's very much predicated and
focused on you have to be like top point one
percent to actually make money versus the n f T
gaming and Web three gaming space. You can just be
an average joe. But if you are a little bit
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of business savvy and you're willing to like jump in
and dive into these ecosystems, you can make money. Okay,
See this is exactly what I love because you know,
we we've met because of the Web three sort of
world and ecosystem, and you were sort of talking about
how different Web two and Web three is. So Web
two we always talk about it to our audience. It's
like those static games where you had to be It's
like trying to get into the draft or the NFL,
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the top one or two in these you know, um
virtual video games like Mad and etcetera. Web three is different.
And the opportunity of Web three that I speak about
so much here in terms of not just gaming but
n f T s is different because it allows all
of us to sort of be creators. It allows all
of us to participate in these huge economic resources that
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Web three is providing. So talk about gaming in the
Web three world and why it's a bit different. So
to kind of give you guys a sense of how
it works and why the differentiator is there. Like when
I jumped into web three gaming, you know, it was
literally about three hundred sixty five days ago. I kind
of didn't have really any clue about n f t
s or crypto wallets or any of that. I was
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just a gamer and I found a game that I
thought was like quite interesting called Axie, And in the game,
you can actually battle him like Pokemon, and you earn
cryptocurrency for every win that you have in the arena.
Now like on a small scale, Like think about it
from the perspective of if you're a kid playing a
game like this, and you're earning crypto every day from
you know, eight, nine, ten years old and to the
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time that you graduate from high school, you've probably made
up a fair amount of money in crypto, whether you
want to start a business or used to fund your
tuition or you know, find other business opportunities in between.
But for myself, just playing the game and buying and
reselling the n FC assets in the game and also
Twitch streaming and all these things, I was clearing like,
you know, twelve thirds thousand dollars a month, like two
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three months into the gaming space, what. Okay, so I
don't have children, but I'm going to close my eyes
and wish that I just have little crypto generating machines
at home playing video games like Little Key Laurels, making
twelve tho dollars a month, and I had friends who
were doing even crazier numbers. I had one guy who
actually got me into the space and taught me these things.
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He was making fifty to seventy grand a month just
buying and selling these assets. He didn't even play the game.
He just bought the n f T assets that go
into the game and just would resell them. So he
was actually flipping n f T s and video games
and made enough for him to like do a million
dollars worth in a year and then like completely give
it up. So he went completely like chill. He's off
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doing his own thing now and living like his ordinary
college life. And this dude was like nineteen years old
he did that year. Okay, so I'm loving this because
this is so unique and this is just such an
interesting way to do it. And you tell your story,
You're like, Okay, I liked video games, I got it,
but I know anything about web three or crypto etcetera.
So you had someone who sort of walked you into it.
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Can you walk our audience in, like what do I need?
What does this mean? And how do I start just
making these you know, small bits of crypto money? Yeah,
for sure. So like in a lot of these ecosystems,
you have to one have a crypto wallet, and the
onboarding processes are incredibly painful because you have to have
a coin base or some other brokerage account and buy
you know, cryptocurrency and then send it to your wallet
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so you can buy these n f T s. But
one thing that we're seeing now is these games and
their onboarding systems are getting much easier to kind of
integrate into, which makes it easier for players to play
certain games. Now, one thing that I will say is
my journey is a little bit different than like the
average gamer because I had a business acumen, and when
you're coming into this space, you have to look at
everything is one. You're playing these games for fun, but
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you are investing your own money into these games. So
when I jumped in, the focus was Okay, we have
these assets and if people can play these games and
earn money, what is the next steps? So what we
saw was that there was this insane model for actually
lending expensive n f T assets to other gamers and
having those gamers play, and you're taking a small percentage
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of the things or percentages that they earned in the game.
So what we did was we created a guild, which
is like a Web three gaming organization, and pretty much
we purchased assets at scale and we started lending them
out to gamers and developing nations. And what if I
told you these games were making like five times the
average wage in their country playing video games for like
a couple hours a day. Wow, How I mean that
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is so entrepreneurial. And what I love about it it's young,
it's you, like, you know, these are the things, and
our audience is so diverse. You know, there's people who
listened to around who are eight seven and lived through
all these different things. But you know, this is really incredible.
So you guys are young entrepreneurs. You decided to buy
these incredibly expensive assets as a group, so you all
put your money together, and then you have folks in
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developing countries who are just out are using and generating
income based on those assets. Yeah, we have people in
Asia that live in places like the Philippines that are
earning you know, substantially higher than their average wage playing
these games. We have people in Africa playing, people in
Latin American countries and in South America, and um, it
got so big to the point to where we realize, yeah,
we can take this and and actually like raise money.
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So we raised a seed round with one of the
biggest crypto firms in the space back in December at
a thirty five million dollar valuation. And then like within
a year, I go from playing video games like for
fun to now operating a company where we we lend
assets and we create consumer technology for Web three organizations. Uh,
and yeah, we're building our own little startup Innicines. Wow,
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this is incredible. You know what I love about this
so much. It's like when people talk about, you know,
I'm just doing something I love and the money will follow,
Like everybody always says that quite annoying phrase, but this
is literally the epitome of doing something that you love.
The money followed because you created a business because other
people really love this industry. Yeah, and it's it's so
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new to where we see people jump in all the
time and they find different ways to participate, like for example,
you know, another Web three thing is just the n
f T scene in general outside of gaming. You know,
owning like a Board eight got me forty dollar air
drop a week ago, where okay, let's talk about that,
because you know, we're a couple of weeks out and
last week Board Eightyacht Club, which is probably the most
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notorious n f T project to have launched in history,
and if you guys were paying attention on Twitter last
week they launched ape coin. Can you just walk our
audience through that, because I don't want to gloss over
it's a big deal, and I think you're our first
or maybe our second or dyacht club holder on the
on the podcast, so welcome. Yeah, So to kind of
touch about like how the system works. All of these
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n f T s are being built by these Web
three organizations called dows and most of the time, just
like any other organization, and you see these crypto tokens,
a lot of these Web three based companies want to
launch their own tokens. What they do is they do
these air drops, which are pretty much gifts to reward
those who are continuous like high conviction holders of these assets.
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And a lot of the times, especially when you have
a project like board A Becott Club, they can get
incredibly lucrative. Last week, they're the one from board A
bat Club net and me forty grand for just buying
the asset and holding it. So an asset that I
spent clow is my mind. So you basically bought an
n f T. It's a really cute picture of this
cool ape. You know you bought? How what price do
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you know? Do you remember what price you bought into
the project at? Well, I'm I'm I'm a little bit
late to the party. So I bought mine at It
cost me about sixty grand when I bought it, So, okay,
you spent sixty that's actually a good price to buy
a at if if you know, I know a lot
of people are here. I can't even understand that you
spent sixty grand to buy a jpeg, right, But you
got in pretty early, because now the I think the
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lowest price you can buy into this n f T
project is I think they're a hundred fifty. Now are
they more they told them? I think they're like now
they're three k. But if you look at the fact
that you know they're giving out these drops just from
owning the asset, you can make more than your value back.
I know this one guy named Franklin, he owns about
forty one board apes and he got about I think
it was four million dollars for his air. Yeah, this
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is not we're talking about like cryptocurrency that's just in
this guide is a cryptocurrency, but there's value to this
that converts absolutely to US dollars. So I want people
to understand when he's talking about somebody owns forty one
j pegs in the board ape and he was just
and the word air dropped to me is so magical
because it's exactly that it just magically appears in your
crypto wallet, has value and you can cash out at
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four million dollars. Yeah, and it's it's insane to think
that where the world is going. And I see the
music space now with they're really cool visionaries. This lady
named Latasha who creates music videos. She's making music videos
and selling the music videos or ethereum and one of
her soul for like things like fifty grand or something.
And it's like if you look at the web two world,
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like who do you know that's like an underground artist
just drop a music video and sell it in crowd
fund their entire in a sense musical brand. Like this
is where the future is going. So it's not just
gaming and in culture, but in music and all of
this being at the forefront. Uh, these changes in Web
three and how money is passing from hand to hand
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in this new ecosystem. Yeah, oh my gosh, this is incredible.
All right, So you have created this guild. You've created,
uh web three startup company? Please tell me the name again. Yeah,
it's called lut squad loot loot squad, like like looting
in a game. Yeah, okay. And you also have created Crede,
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a name for yourself on twitch YouTube as well. Can
you tell me how this factors in and how does
that actually make you money? Because everyone thinks they're going
to make money on these social media platforms, but you've
really done it. Yes. So I think a lot of
people jump into these these ecosystems, but they don't really
take time to build their brand. Uh. And I realized
very early on that there weren't that many people streaming
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and creating con in for these Web three and NFC games,
So it made it much easier as a founder for
me to go and raise money. Once all of these
different vcs realized he is pretty much the leader in
the space, and most people look at me as like,
you know, the leader and web three gaming, so a
lot of the rooms you get to walk into a
lot easier. The games actually come to me and want
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to do different integrations and content pieces. I normally turned
down any promotional stuff from video games because I do
incredibly well based on my own brand. But having a
brand and web three this early on can change the
way you make money in the future, because if I
wanted to go drop a newsletter and charge a monthly
subscription fee to give people information about games coming out,
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I could probably do that and do incredibly well. It's
like you start opening and creating money making opportunities just
because you put the time, energy and effort in to
cultivate a transparent and positive brand that other people can
align themselves with. Brighton. And this is why it's so
important for me to talk about web three and unlimited
opportunities because everyone says, oh, it's so early, it's so early.
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This is where the magic happens. This is where you
can create a brand for yourself, create a name, and
it only goes up for here, how have you found
it has been? Because you know, with Web three, the metaverse,
there's this concept of like we're anonymous, we can be
represented as an avatar, or we can come as ourselves
and as a black man in this space. Um, do
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you find that has helped you? It's been advantageous or
it actually may have not matter? Well? I think that
it matters because by default, and most people that are
in Web three, you know, for all instance of purposes,
are sitting behind profile pictures. They're pretty weird individuals, uh
and and everything in between, and nothing against them, but
you need to be able to culturally transition between Web
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two and Web three and being black, having a sense
like a background in like streetwear, music culture, and understanding
like where I feel in terms of my own personal
self worth, it made it much easier to traverse these
line There aren't many people in the space that look
like me, but my goal is to like change that
and get more people into this space so they know
that this is a space where they can write the
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next few chapters of history. In terms of crypto, we're
always late to the party, but it's like when we
get in the party, we're at the forefront of culture
and how that party is being represented. Like if you
think about it right now, I'm I can come on
my hand how many black Web three gamers I know
in this current standpoint. But five fifteen years from now,
the people who aren't in Web three gaming that are
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black could be the ones that are running this entire space.
And I do think that there is a world where
people that don't look like me probably like envious of
like what I build and like, oh, you know, he
doesn't look like one of us. And it's cool for
me because I'm like, yo, I'm not hiding behind a
profile pick. You're gonna see who I am every single day.
And sometimes it's actually a negative because everyone has all
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these profile picks. I'm the one showing my true face
and transparency. So when people see Web three gaming, they
see Bryance. They don't see somebody who has an eight
or some other profile pick. You see somebody who's straight
out in the open. So it is tough sometimes, but
I do my best to just try to on board
as many people as I can that do look like
that's great and I love and you know, I think
that it's it's interesting for you know, people of color,
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Black people in particular, this idea of like having this representation,
it means a lot, you know, having yourself on this podcast,
having you know, some young kid who's like, Mom, look
at this guy, like he looks like me. It's real.
You know, that goes a lot in our community. And
I don't know if I'm if I'm going to get
into trouble for saying this, but yeah, like the white
guys that have changed their profile picture to you know,
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a board ape, et cetera, that really just means I
have a lot of money. They don't need it for
us to stand up and show your face. Like I
I appreciate that a lot. I think it's it's incredibly
respectful and almost you know, it's really changing the game
as well. And I've always kind of had this whole mindset,
like when I hopped into the space and I've gotten
you know, paid from people behind these profile picks because
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the whole anomen e thing, and I just take the
whole approach of they hated Serena too, and look what
she did. They still need her, they still hate and
they can't stop her. And I'm not gonna stop and
I'm not gonna stop bringing people into the space. But
at the end of the day, we move culture, we
shape where this world goes. I mean, it's the same
reason why you see people try to align themselves with
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Kanye even when he's off the rails, because at the
end of the day, he's creating culture and people can't
stop that. And everything that we do is so culturally relevant.
People want to gravitate to us, and there's nothing against
anybody else and what they're doing. But it's like, at
the end of the day, everybody knows where the culture
shakes and I'm just happy to be a part of it. Yeah,
I love it bringing the culture. Okay, So a couple
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of last questions before we close out. What is your
advice to young gamers or maybe not even young gamers.
What is you know? We have some people on here
who might be from the old school dungeons and Dragons
who want to enter into Web three. What's your advice
for anyone who wants to try and dabble their foot
into the Web three waters and gaming? How do they start? So?
I would say the first thing is, you gotta get
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an ethereum wallet, like you gotta get a metal mask wallet.
So you can at least at the very minimum, like
start put to sipating in these ecosystems, and then to
start connecting with the content creators that are launching and
creating content around the gaming space and education space, because
that's how you'll be able to stay away from like
the potential scams and pitfalls that are in the space,
because for you know, the hundred good projects, there are
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thousands of bad ones, and people lose money every single day.
And I try to preface that because for a lot
of people, like when I jumped into the space, I
took my entire savings at tin Grant, I took it
and just went on the gamble that this was gonna work.
But for a lot of people can't afford to just
take you know, big some money and jump in. So
I would just say, do proper education on crypto first,
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and then aligned with the creators that are creating very
transparent content around these games, and then dive in, like
take your time. A lot of the games aren't that
good right now, but when you do find the ones
that you do align with, it's a space where you'll
find community and folks that think like you, and ultimately
you'll find where you feel like you belong, so you know,
it's interesting. For the same thing about getting into n
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f T s as well. I usually direct a lot
of people to like start a Twitter. You know, you
can use the Twitter you have, You could start a
new Twitter if you wanted, but like, Twitter is a
great place to really feel the buzz and energy of
what's happening in Web three. People are tweeting different projects,
and you know, I've found it's different because old school
Twitter for Web two you just followed like very select people,
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and I think, you know, blue checks meant a lot,
you know, I think Twitter is changing right now, especially
in this Web three world. You can follow tons of
people who have really smart things to say. They can
tell you about different projects. Don't let the blue check
fool you. That doesn't necessarily mean everything. And then from there,
like you say, pick projects that you like and join
their discords. I think that's another thing that's really new
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to this industry, like join the discord, joining the conversations.
And for gamers, I think that's existed for a long time.
For regular people or muggles, like I call us, Like,
you know, I wasn't gonna be hanging out in a
discord for an hour. But now I'm in a discord.
I'm having conversations with people that you say are probably
on the other side of the world. Yeah, And it's
just it's saying how quickly things can take off, Like,
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don't be the person who put yourself in such a
box that you don't feel like you can change or
try new things, because I mean I've failed at five,
probably five to ten different things before I actually jumped
into the Web three and gaining space and found where
I actually belong. Yeah, oh my goodness. Okay, lastly, as
we leave, tell us, you know you talked a lot
a lot about the pitfalls of Web three. Maybe you
could lose money. And you know, I have a love
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hate relationship when people share these things, especially about Web three,
because I think it's almost a little bit of gatekeeping.
If we keep telling everyone it's so scary and it's
a scam in this, it means people like us are like, oh,
I'm staying out, but you know I but I do
want us to leave. If you have some last parting
advice on you know, what to be worry of as
you enter into the Web three space, any mistakes, maybe
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that you've made that have ended up being quite costly.
Oh man. So I would say the biggest thing is
continue to do your own research on projects. And by
that I mean even if someone gives you recommendation and
try to get a good under a good sense of
what their motivations are, because a lot of the times
in the space will we currently see is people will
kind of innocence pump their own bags or promote projects
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that they're associated with so that they can, you know,
see the upside, and then the newcomer becomes exit liquidity
for that person that's just trying to you know, chill
or try to create hype around that project. So make
sure you take a very open ended approach to your research.
And I do this. There's a psych called n FT
Calendar where you can see all the new n f
T s coming out. I like to look at it
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from time to time, jumping in a discords and actually
looking for genuine community. If you see people shilling giveaways seven,
it's probably a red flag and and and an n
f T community you want to stay away from. But
I think for the most part, but three is more
good than bad. And if you start now, even with
the small amount. Just go on open see it doesn't
matter what you buy. Just buy an n f T
because you think it looks really cool, and just see
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it in your wallet and don't spend any more than bucks.
Just buy something that's cool and cute, and you're just
gonna learn earn about the process so much, and then
hopefully you jump into that discord and you start seeing
what that community looks like and you can learn more
about what you truly like and dislike, and it will
help you along your journey. Bryson, this was really great.
Thank you so much. All Right, can you tell our
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audience here where they can find you on social media
where they can follow you. We want to know everything
from your YouTube's to your twitches to hear this. Yeah,
I'm not gonna over show myself, but you can find
me on Twitter at Bryson Underscore and just Bryson on
Instagram as well as Twitter and I mean Twitch and YouTube.
And just thank you so much for having me on
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the show to talk about this because I don't get
to chat in mini podcast formats and and give my
truest thoughts on how this space is being cultivated. Especially
anytime I can help our people kind of grow a
little bit into space. It's it's truly thankful. Well, we'd
love to have you back. I know this space moves
so fast. So the conversation we had today, this podcast
will air and maybe five months down the line it's
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a whole new world. Um, so we'll definitely love to
have you back. Back of luck to you, and I
hope that you know your story inspires so many around
us to get gaming and actually realize you can make
a very very lucative living um in web three in
the gaming world. And good luck on your startup. Thank
you so much, Thanks Bryson. All right, Money Movers, that's
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with Green. Our next guest is a professional gamer. Yes
you heard me right, gamers that professionally play and are
recognized and make money doing this. So gone are the
days of your parents saying you can't make money through
playing games, because Bryson is here to tell you otherwise.
Money Movers, please welcome to the podcast. Gamer Bryson. Hey Bryson, Hey,
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thank you so much for having me. I know this
was like a spur of the moment thing, and I'm
so thankful that you guys decided to have me on
the show to talk about gaming and Web three and
what I do in this space because it's kind of weird,
but I think the viewers will love to hear what
you can do in gaming and how much money you
can actually make. Well. I love this and I'm so excited.
M Bryson. I want you to tell our listeners a
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little bit about yourself and how you got here. You're young.
I already know this because we've been friends from the
web three space, but you're twenty seven years old. You've
made a name for yourself and gaming, and it's actually
especially in our community. I think it's really interesting because
I feel like every black parent was like, turn off
those games. You can't make money from games, go and study,
and so this is kind of a big ha ha
(01:25):
ha movement right now because you were actually doing that,
You were making money from games. You're educating other people.
So tell us how you got here. Yeah, for sure.
So I mean luckily, growing up, my parents weren't like
opposed to the whole video game pray and frenzy. And
I've been like a gaming edict for my entire life.
So like as a kid, my mom and my dad
(01:46):
would you know, they take me to gaming events like
up and down the East Coast because I used to
play mad and competitively. I was like eight nineteen years old,
and they just really believed in gaming. And of course
you don't, I did well in school, so they were
fine letting me go all do pretty much whatever I wanted.
But I mean sometimes I would stay up from like,
you know, the time that they got home from work
until the time that they got woke up the next
(02:09):
day and went to work again, I would still be gaming.
So I've been gaming for a long time. Wow, Okay,
but that's really interesting that your parents were so cool.
But I think the thing also that you said is
it like I still did well in school. They just
kind of let you hid your reign. So you were
playing Madden competitively from eight or nine years old, and
how did you like? What makes you great at being
a gamer? Well? The interesting thing is like before you
(02:31):
had to actually be like one of the top top
players in these games to make money. Um, And recently,
within the last year year and a half, I found
the web three gaming space where people actually make money
as a byproduct of playing the games and you don't
even have to be the best in the world. You
used to be an ordinary gamer and you can make money.
So it was kind of weird when I dove into
this space and realized that there was all these business
(02:53):
opportunities to do this full time. And that's when I
kind of started really building the following it beforehand, like
the gaming and like the Web two ecosystem of like
the Madden's and called duties. It's very much predicated and
focused on you have to be like top point one
percent to actually make money versus the n f T
gaming and Web three gaming space. You can just be
an average joe. But if you are a little bit
(03:15):
of business savvy and you're willing to like jump in
and dive into these ecosystems, you can make money. Okay,
See this is exactly what I love because you know,
we we've met because of the Web three sort of
world and ecosystem, and you were sort of talking about
how different Web two and Web three is. So Web
two we always talk about it to our audience. It's
like those static games where you had to be It's
like trying to get into the draft or the NFL,
(03:37):
the top one or two in these you know, um
virtual video games like Mad and etcetera. Web three is different.
And the opportunity of Web three that I speak about
so much here in terms of not just gaming but
n f T s is different because it allows all
of us to sort of be creators. It allows all
of us to participate in these huge economic resources that
(03:58):
Web three is providing. So talk about gaming in the
Web three world and why it's a bit different. So
to kind of give you guys a sense of how
it works and why the differentiator is there. Like when
I jumped into web three gaming, you know, it was
literally about three hundred sixty five days ago. I kind
of didn't have really any clue about n f t
s or crypto wallets or any of that. I was
(04:19):
just a gamer and I found a game that I
thought was like quite interesting called Axie, And in the game,
you can actually battle him like Pokemon, and you earn
cryptocurrency for every win that you have in the arena.
Now like on a small scale, Like think about it
from the perspective of if you're a kid playing a
game like this, and you're earning crypto every day from
you know, eight, nine, ten years old and to the
(04:40):
time that you graduate from high school, you've probably made
up a fair amount of money in crypto, whether you
want to start a business or used to fund your
tuition or you know, find other business opportunities in between.
But for myself, just playing the game and buying and
reselling the n FC assets in the game and also
Twitch streaming and all these things, I was clearing like,
you know, twelve thirds thousand dollars a month, like two
(05:01):
three months into the gaming space, what. Okay, so I
don't have children, but I'm going to close my eyes
and wish that I just have little crypto generating machines
at home playing video games like Little Key Laurels, making
twelve tho dollars a month, and I had friends who
were doing even crazier numbers. I had one guy who
actually got me into the space and taught me these things.
(05:23):
He was making fifty to seventy grand a month just
buying and selling these assets. He didn't even play the game.
He just bought the n f T assets that go
into the game and just would resell them. So he
was actually flipping n f T s and video games
and made enough for him to like do a million
dollars worth in a year and then like completely give
it up. So he went completely like chill. He's off
(05:43):
doing his own thing now and living like his ordinary
college life. And this dude was like nineteen years old
he did that year. Okay, so I'm loving this because
this is so unique and this is just such an
interesting way to do it. And you tell your story,
You're like, Okay, I liked video games, I got it,
but I know anything about web three or crypto etcetera.
So you had someone who sort of walked you into it.
(06:06):
Can you walk our audience in, like what do I need?
What does this mean? And how do I start just
making these you know, small bits of crypto money? Yeah,
for sure. So like in a lot of these ecosystems,
you have to one have a crypto wallet, and the
onboarding processes are incredibly painful because you have to have
a coin base or some other brokerage account and buy
you know, cryptocurrency and then send it to your wallet
(06:27):
so you can buy these n f T s. But
one thing that we're seeing now is these games and
their onboarding systems are getting much easier to kind of
integrate into, which makes it easier for players to play
certain games. Now, one thing that I will say is
my journey is a little bit different than like the
average gamer because I had a business acumen, and when
you're coming into this space, you have to look at
everything is one. You're playing these games for fun, but
(06:50):
you are investing your own money into these games. So
when I jumped in, the focus was Okay, we have
these assets and if people can play these games and
earn money, what is the next steps? So what we
saw was that there was this insane model for actually
lending expensive n f T assets to other gamers and
having those gamers play, and you're taking a small percentage
(07:11):
of the things or percentages that they earned in the game.
So what we did was we created a guild, which
is like a Web three gaming organization, and pretty much
we purchased assets at scale and we started lending them
out to gamers and developing nations. And what if I
told you these games were making like five times the
average wage in their country playing video games for like
a couple hours a day. Wow, How I mean that
(07:34):
is so entrepreneurial. And what I love about it it's young,
it's you, like, you know, these are the things, and
our audience is so diverse. You know, there's people who
listened to around who are eight seven and lived through
all these different things. But you know, this is really incredible.
So you guys are young entrepreneurs. You decided to buy
these incredibly expensive assets as a group, so you all
put your money together, and then you have folks in
(07:57):
developing countries who are just out are using and generating
income based on those assets. Yeah, we have people in
Asia that live in places like the Philippines that are
earning you know, substantially higher than their average wage playing
these games. We have people in Africa playing, people in
Latin American countries and in South America, and um, it
got so big to the point to where we realize, yeah,
we can take this and and actually like raise money.
(08:19):
So we raised a seed round with one of the
biggest crypto firms in the space back in December at
a thirty five million dollar valuation. And then like within
a year, I go from playing video games like for
fun to now operating a company where we we lend
assets and we create consumer technology for Web three organizations. Uh,
and yeah, we're building our own little startup Innicines. Wow,
(08:41):
this is incredible. You know what I love about this
so much. It's like when people talk about, you know,
I'm just doing something I love and the money will follow,
Like everybody always says that quite annoying phrase, but this
is literally the epitome of doing something that you love.
The money followed because you created a business because other
people really love this industry. Yeah, and it's it's so
(09:02):
new to where we see people jump in all the
time and they find different ways to participate, like for example,
you know, another Web three thing is just the n
f T scene in general outside of gaming. You know,
owning like a Board eight got me forty dollar air
drop a week ago, where okay, let's talk about that,
because you know, we're a couple of weeks out and
last week Board Eightyacht Club, which is probably the most
(09:25):
notorious n f T project to have launched in history,
and if you guys were paying attention on Twitter last
week they launched ape coin. Can you just walk our
audience through that, because I don't want to gloss over
it's a big deal, and I think you're our first
or maybe our second or dyacht club holder on the
on the podcast, so welcome. Yeah, So to kind of
touch about like how the system works. All of these
(09:47):
n f T s are being built by these Web
three organizations called dows and most of the time, just
like any other organization, and you see these crypto tokens,
a lot of these Web three based companies want to
launch their own tokens. What they do is they do
these air drops, which are pretty much gifts to reward
those who are continuous like high conviction holders of these assets.
(10:09):
And a lot of the times, especially when you have
a project like board A Becott Club, they can get
incredibly lucrative. Last week, they're the one from board A
bat Club net and me forty grand for just buying
the asset and holding it. So an asset that I
spent clow is my mind. So you basically bought an
n f T. It's a really cute picture of this
cool ape. You know you bought? How what price do
(10:29):
you know? Do you remember what price you bought into
the project at? Well, I'm I'm I'm a little bit
late to the party. So I bought mine at It
cost me about sixty grand when I bought it, So, okay,
you spent sixty that's actually a good price to buy
a at if if you know, I know a lot
of people are here. I can't even understand that you
spent sixty grand to buy a jpeg, right, But you
got in pretty early, because now the I think the
(10:49):
lowest price you can buy into this n f T
project is I think they're a hundred fifty. Now are
they more they told them? I think they're like now
they're three k. But if you look at the fact
that you know they're giving out these drops just from
owning the asset, you can make more than your value back.
I know this one guy named Franklin, he owns about
forty one board apes and he got about I think
it was four million dollars for his air. Yeah, this
(11:14):
is not we're talking about like cryptocurrency that's just in
this guide is a cryptocurrency, but there's value to this
that converts absolutely to US dollars. So I want people
to understand when he's talking about somebody owns forty one
j pegs in the board ape and he was just
and the word air dropped to me is so magical
because it's exactly that it just magically appears in your
crypto wallet, has value and you can cash out at
(11:36):
four million dollars. Yeah, and it's it's insane to think
that where the world is going. And I see the
music space now with they're really cool visionaries. This lady
named Latasha who creates music videos. She's making music videos
and selling the music videos or ethereum and one of
her soul for like things like fifty grand or something.
And it's like if you look at the web two world,
(11:56):
like who do you know that's like an underground artist
just drop a music video and sell it in crowd
fund their entire in a sense musical brand. Like this
is where the future is going. So it's not just
gaming and in culture, but in music and all of
this being at the forefront. Uh, these changes in Web
three and how money is passing from hand to hand
(12:17):
in this new ecosystem. Yeah, oh my gosh, this is incredible.
All right, So you have created this guild. You've created,
uh web three startup company? Please tell me the name again. Yeah,
it's called lut squad loot loot squad, like like looting
in a game. Yeah, okay. And you also have created Crede,
(12:37):
a name for yourself on twitch YouTube as well. Can
you tell me how this factors in and how does
that actually make you money? Because everyone thinks they're going
to make money on these social media platforms, but you've
really done it. Yes. So I think a lot of
people jump into these these ecosystems, but they don't really
take time to build their brand. Uh. And I realized
very early on that there weren't that many people streaming
(12:59):
and creating con in for these Web three and NFC games,
So it made it much easier as a founder for
me to go and raise money. Once all of these
different vcs realized he is pretty much the leader in
the space, and most people look at me as like,
you know, the leader and web three gaming, so a
lot of the rooms you get to walk into a
lot easier. The games actually come to me and want
(13:19):
to do different integrations and content pieces. I normally turned
down any promotional stuff from video games because I do
incredibly well based on my own brand. But having a
brand and web three this early on can change the
way you make money in the future, because if I
wanted to go drop a newsletter and charge a monthly
subscription fee to give people information about games coming out,
(13:40):
I could probably do that and do incredibly well. It's
like you start opening and creating money making opportunities just
because you put the time, energy and effort in to
cultivate a transparent and positive brand that other people can
align themselves with. Brighton. And this is why it's so
important for me to talk about web three and unlimited
opportunities because everyone says, oh, it's so early, it's so early.
(14:01):
This is where the magic happens. This is where you
can create a brand for yourself, create a name, and
it only goes up for here, how have you found
it has been? Because you know, with Web three, the metaverse,
there's this concept of like we're anonymous, we can be
represented as an avatar, or we can come as ourselves
and as a black man in this space. Um, do
(14:21):
you find that has helped you? It's been advantageous or
it actually may have not matter? Well? I think that
it matters because by default, and most people that are
in Web three, you know, for all instance of purposes,
are sitting behind profile pictures. They're pretty weird individuals, uh
and and everything in between, and nothing against them, but
you need to be able to culturally transition between Web
(14:44):
two and Web three and being black, having a sense
like a background in like streetwear, music culture, and understanding
like where I feel in terms of my own personal
self worth, it made it much easier to traverse these
line There aren't many people in the space that look
like me, but my goal is to like change that
and get more people into this space so they know
that this is a space where they can write the
(15:05):
next few chapters of history. In terms of crypto, we're
always late to the party, but it's like when we
get in the party, we're at the forefront of culture
and how that party is being represented. Like if you
think about it right now, I'm I can come on
my hand how many black Web three gamers I know
in this current standpoint. But five fifteen years from now,
the people who aren't in Web three gaming that are
(15:25):
black could be the ones that are running this entire space.
And I do think that there is a world where
people that don't look like me probably like envious of
like what I build and like, oh, you know, he
doesn't look like one of us. And it's cool for
me because I'm like, yo, I'm not hiding behind a
profile pick. You're gonna see who I am every single day.
And sometimes it's actually a negative because everyone has all
(15:47):
these profile picks. I'm the one showing my true face
and transparency. So when people see Web three gaming, they
see Bryance. They don't see somebody who has an eight
or some other profile pick. You see somebody who's straight
out in the open. So it is tough sometimes, but
I do my best to just try to on board
as many people as I can that do look like
that's great and I love and you know, I think
that it's it's interesting for you know, people of color,
(16:09):
Black people in particular, this idea of like having this representation,
it means a lot, you know, having yourself on this podcast,
having you know, some young kid who's like, Mom, look
at this guy, like he looks like me. It's real.
You know, that goes a lot in our community. And
I don't know if I'm if I'm going to get
into trouble for saying this, but yeah, like the white
guys that have changed their profile picture to you know,
(16:30):
a board ape, et cetera, that really just means I
have a lot of money. They don't need it for
us to stand up and show your face. Like I
I appreciate that a lot. I think it's it's incredibly
respectful and almost you know, it's really changing the game
as well. And I've always kind of had this whole mindset,
like when I hopped into the space and I've gotten
you know, paid from people behind these profile picks because
(16:51):
the whole anomen e thing, and I just take the
whole approach of they hated Serena too, and look what
she did. They still need her, they still hate and
they can't stop her. And I'm not gonna stop and
I'm not gonna stop bringing people into the space. But
at the end of the day, we move culture, we
shape where this world goes. I mean, it's the same
reason why you see people try to align themselves with
(17:11):
Kanye even when he's off the rails, because at the
end of the day, he's creating culture and people can't
stop that. And everything that we do is so culturally relevant.
People want to gravitate to us, and there's nothing against
anybody else and what they're doing. But it's like, at
the end of the day, everybody knows where the culture
shakes and I'm just happy to be a part of it. Yeah,
I love it bringing the culture. Okay, So a couple
(17:34):
of last questions before we close out. What is your
advice to young gamers or maybe not even young gamers.
What is you know? We have some people on here
who might be from the old school dungeons and Dragons
who want to enter into Web three. What's your advice
for anyone who wants to try and dabble their foot
into the Web three waters and gaming? How do they start? So?
I would say the first thing is, you gotta get
(17:54):
an ethereum wallet, like you gotta get a metal mask wallet.
So you can at least at the very minimum, like
start put to sipating in these ecosystems, and then to
start connecting with the content creators that are launching and
creating content around the gaming space and education space, because
that's how you'll be able to stay away from like
the potential scams and pitfalls that are in the space,
because for you know, the hundred good projects, there are
(18:16):
thousands of bad ones, and people lose money every single day.
And I try to preface that because for a lot
of people, like when I jumped into the space, I
took my entire savings at tin Grant, I took it
and just went on the gamble that this was gonna work.
But for a lot of people can't afford to just
take you know, big some money and jump in. So
I would just say, do proper education on crypto first,
(18:38):
and then aligned with the creators that are creating very
transparent content around these games, and then dive in, like
take your time. A lot of the games aren't that
good right now, but when you do find the ones
that you do align with, it's a space where you'll
find community and folks that think like you, and ultimately
you'll find where you feel like you belong, so you know,
it's interesting. For the same thing about getting into n
(19:00):
f T s as well. I usually direct a lot
of people to like start a Twitter. You know, you
can use the Twitter you have, You could start a
new Twitter if you wanted, but like, Twitter is a
great place to really feel the buzz and energy of
what's happening in Web three. People are tweeting different projects,
and you know, I've found it's different because old school
Twitter for Web two you just followed like very select people,
(19:20):
and I think, you know, blue checks meant a lot,
you know, I think Twitter is changing right now, especially
in this Web three world. You can follow tons of
people who have really smart things to say. They can
tell you about different projects. Don't let the blue check
fool you. That doesn't necessarily mean everything. And then from there,
like you say, pick projects that you like and join
their discords. I think that's another thing that's really new
(19:40):
to this industry, like join the discord, joining the conversations.
And for gamers, I think that's existed for a long time.
For regular people or muggles, like I call us, Like,
you know, I wasn't gonna be hanging out in a
discord for an hour. But now I'm in a discord.
I'm having conversations with people that you say are probably
on the other side of the world. Yeah, And it's
just it's saying how quickly things can take off, Like,
(20:03):
don't be the person who put yourself in such a
box that you don't feel like you can change or
try new things, because I mean I've failed at five,
probably five to ten different things before I actually jumped
into the Web three and gaining space and found where
I actually belong. Yeah, oh my goodness. Okay, lastly, as
we leave, tell us, you know you talked a lot
a lot about the pitfalls of Web three. Maybe you
could lose money. And you know, I have a love
(20:25):
hate relationship when people share these things, especially about Web three,
because I think it's almost a little bit of gatekeeping.
If we keep telling everyone it's so scary and it's
a scam in this, it means people like us are like, oh,
I'm staying out, but you know I but I do
want us to leave. If you have some last parting
advice on you know, what to be worry of as
you enter into the Web three space, any mistakes, maybe
(20:48):
that you've made that have ended up being quite costly.
Oh man. So I would say the biggest thing is
continue to do your own research on projects. And by
that I mean even if someone gives you recommendation and
try to get a good under a good sense of
what their motivations are, because a lot of the times
in the space will we currently see is people will
kind of innocence pump their own bags or promote projects
(21:10):
that they're associated with so that they can, you know,
see the upside, and then the newcomer becomes exit liquidity
for that person that's just trying to you know, chill
or try to create hype around that project. So make
sure you take a very open ended approach to your research.
And I do this. There's a psych called n FT
Calendar where you can see all the new n f
T s coming out. I like to look at it
(21:30):
from time to time, jumping in a discords and actually
looking for genuine community. If you see people shilling giveaways seven,
it's probably a red flag and and and an n
f T community you want to stay away from. But
I think for the most part, but three is more
good than bad. And if you start now, even with
the small amount. Just go on open see it doesn't
matter what you buy. Just buy an n f T
because you think it looks really cool, and just see
(21:53):
it in your wallet and don't spend any more than bucks.
Just buy something that's cool and cute, and you're just
gonna learn earn about the process so much, and then
hopefully you jump into that discord and you start seeing
what that community looks like and you can learn more
about what you truly like and dislike, and it will
help you along your journey. Bryson, this was really great.
Thank you so much. All Right, can you tell our
(22:15):
audience here where they can find you on social media
where they can follow you. We want to know everything
from your YouTube's to your twitches to hear this. Yeah,
I'm not gonna over show myself, but you can find
me on Twitter at Bryson Underscore and just Bryson on
Instagram as well as Twitter and I mean Twitch and YouTube.
And just thank you so much for having me on
(22:35):
the show to talk about this because I don't get
to chat in mini podcast formats and and give my
truest thoughts on how this space is being cultivated. Especially
anytime I can help our people kind of grow a
little bit into space. It's it's truly thankful. Well, we'd
love to have you back. I know this space moves
so fast. So the conversation we had today, this podcast
will air and maybe five months down the line it's
(22:55):
a whole new world. Um, so we'll definitely love to
have you back. Back of luck to you, and I
hope that you know your story inspires so many around
us to get gaming and actually realize you can make
a very very lucative living um in web three in
the gaming world. And good luck on your startup. Thank
you so much, Thanks Bryson. All right, Money Movers, that's
(23:15):
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