October 30, 2025 • 46 mins
How long do you think you could survive in a zombie apocalypse? One minute? One week? One year? Forever? This week, in honor of the spookiest of holidays, Stephanie and Melissa discuss how to become more better at existing in a hypothetical world riddled with the living dead. Join our sort-of fearless hosts as they discuss their favorite zombie movies, ponder about which vehicle would mow down hoards of brain-eaters the most effectively and debate the extremely important question: Would you rather fight one zombie horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized zombies? Plus, we get into the origin of the modern George Romero zombie, rooted in Haitian Vodou. Happy Halloween!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wait, bait guys, one horse sized duck or one hundred
ducks size zombies.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh yeah, we did get to that one. Oh, I
guess we are still recording.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's very important.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I think I would do the little duck. I don't
want to think about because if you got like a
good bat with some nails sticking out, you could take
out like duck. You don't know if these fucking zombie ducks.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Zombie ducks have te Ducks have teeth, you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Know that like some like yeah, but ducks are not
that fast. Have you ever seen a duck like run full?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And they're all like low to the ground. They waddle,
they're less scary things.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We don't know, Melissa.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But I'm saying, if you have a good sized bat
with some nails, yeah, it's poking out of it, which
is from that show that cartoon.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Have you never watched a movie? Have you never watched
a movie?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's always like a swarm of and you just swing
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's the one that gets your eye. It's the one
that like jumps up and flaps up and like grabs
your lips or you could literally hold the bat and
like go in a circle.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, you probably knock like ten out at the time. Yeah,
rather the big one. It's just one thing to take out.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's just one thing. And like, you know, where's that
It's horse. I can't believe we're talking about this. This
is absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
More Better, More Better, More Better More.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending
to have it all together.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And embrace the journey of becoming a little more better
every day.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's most of the marrow and that's Stephanie Beaddris.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And here we are. Where are you? Are you in
your gym?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I'm in my home gym slash garage because there are
people in my house today and so this is area
number two where I can podcast from with Yeah, how
are you?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm pretty good. I'm I'm trying to ride the high
of my.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
A retreat. That's my more Better for this week. I
went to retreat retreat. It looks so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was amazing. I didn't want to go. I told
Brad I was nervous about going. It was a gift
from a friend and I was like, I don't know
about this.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It was really lovely.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm really glad. I went, I met some amazing women.
I had some really incredible moments by myself, which I
really needed. I realized when I was there, I didn't
I don't really do anything for myself. I try to
squeeze in things for myself while I'm working. You know,
I'll have a trip to New York or something for work,
and then I'll be like, I'll stay extra day. But
(02:50):
that's not really right for me. It's me trying to
tell myself that that's enough for myself. I'm starving myself
of time for myself, and realize that while I was
there and I had a just great time, that's a
huge reminder.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, all women, all humans. Yeah it is okay, and
also like hugely important and beneficial to like really take
time for yourself.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I don't think men have the same issue.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, I'm living them. I'm being I'm generalizing hugely,
but yeah, yeah they do. Yeah, yeah, they're a little
better at uh yeah being.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Like they're supported. They're supported in doing that for themselves.
You know, they're supported in ways that I don't think
we are generally. Yeah, I mean, let's crack open the
patriarchal discussion right now. Okay, coming in hot Yeah, I
don't think that they. You know, for example, Brad goes
(03:57):
on a trip every single year and he with his
fantasy football group and it's a big group of his friends.
He goes every single year, and.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I know a few dudes that do that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, that's something that he does with no shame. He
doesn't feel bad about doing that. He knows that that's
time for himself. He knows it's just a few days,
and he does it. Whereas I feel racked with guilt
if I am, like, right, I want to go somewhere
by myself. Is that okay? You're you guys gonna be
okay without me? Like, yeah, what about auditions? Like do
(04:28):
I need to be available? Like I don't do clock
out for a week. I've never done that in my life.
Even the last time I went on a retreat, I
was rehearsing on my own for a thing that I needed.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
To do when I got back. You know, right, Yeah,
that's real. No, you're so right.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I'm so proud of you that you did that for yourself.
You thank you. What about you?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
What have you done lately that's more better?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh God, I feel like mine's gonna sound so bad
after yours.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's not every week that I come on here and
I'm like, I went on a retreat.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, so cause mine is like about basically like in
service of others, like exactly that's nice. Well, no, it's
you know what I've been doing more better that has
relieved some like stress and anxiety for me. I've thotten
a little bit better about meal planning and being intentional
(05:26):
about so like I cook. I cook like like I
don't know, like three to five days a week, and
we have to do we have to do lunches for
Axel now, so he started kindergarten. So I've been what
I've been doing is like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. And this
might sound like so basic, bitch, but like it just
kind of occurred to me in the moment as I
(05:46):
was doing it, and I was like, oh my god,
this makes my life so much easier. Is I'll make
bigger dinners so that they're for sure is leftovers on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
so I have stuff for his lunches, and then on
Thursday we eat leftovers whatever's in the fridge, and then
maybe Friday there is still some spillover or we order
(06:06):
food and then then I'm like the week just got
so much easier and like less uh hectic, because I
found that like by the time Thursday came, I was
like burnt out. I'm like what the fuck is for
dinner tonight? Or you know what I mean. And now
it's just like if I can just like nail Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday or even like I worked yesterday so we ordered
(06:27):
and like I'm going to cook, you know on Thursday,
like whatever. Like if I just focus on like three
days a week, I can get another like day or
two out of that food. Yeah, maybe just order two days,
and it just like feels like a new system I've
kind of figured out that's been working really well.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's great. It's so much stress off of yourself, so
much stress. And then I'm like enjoying cooking those days too,
because I'm just thinking about like two or three days,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Couldn't be me.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I thank you, but I like it, like especially when
I'm not working sometimes, like cooking can become like another
creative outlet.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So you kind of like made it easier to like
it for yourself too. Yes, now you're also enjoying when
you're doing it as opposed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like yeah, because it doesn't feel like so much every
week that I have to figure out.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, it's nice, well done, thanks, congrats, that's big.
I don't know why you were shitting on yourself there,
because that's that's big.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It just like it's one of those things when you
figure it out and you're like this feels really basic
and like I should have figured it out, but.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Nobody teaches is the stuff most and no one is
like there's no mom that was in the kitchen turning
to you and being like hey, so when you get busy,
nobody did that to you, Like nobody for me, No
one did that. No, No, it's very rare. We're the first.
We're kind of like the first chunk of people that
(07:58):
are starting to leave you. I mean maybe some people
were really lucky and had parents that were like a
little more evolved and stuff. Not that our parents were bad,
but they just didn't have time to teach us stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No, And it just I wish I was better at
like actual meal planning, Like I feel like some people
are so good at that, Like Sunday they lay the
whole week out and they like, that's amazing skill, but
that shit stresses me out. So for me, it's just
like I'm just making a little more food. Yeah, and
it's giving me a lot in return.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's awesome, more better.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
This is our Halloween episode, guys.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, EPI.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Now, I just want to preface this by saying this
episode's going to be hella dumb in a fun way. Yeah,
Like today we're talking about surviving as zombie apocalypse more
better at zombies. I don't know I feel about this topic,
but I'm gonna go with it. I saw it on
the roster and all I was like, I don't know, you, guys,
(09:02):
I have a lot of feelings about zombies.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
What are your feelings about zombies?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
They don't exist? Brouh but not real.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's not real. It's never gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.
I mean, a disease might spread across the country quickly.
That might happen, But I don't think like the undead
are coming for us anytime soon. Although I love that
the fun of it in film and stuff, and I
love you know, ghosties and ghoulies and stuff like that.
(09:35):
I'd love that kind of stuff. I love spooky doogie stuff.
It's some of my favorite This is one of my
favorite times of year. Zombies specifically, No, it's not real.
Do you enjoy zombie movies or shows? You know? Not really?
I like apocalyptic stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Obviously, I'm in an apocalyptic post apocalyptse show. Yeah you
are Twisted Metal. If you haven't watched it, it's on
Peacock in the US.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's watch it. It's really great. It's really fun.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Thank you so much. I love like survivalist kind of stuff,
like apocalyptic survivalist stuff. But like, yeah, the super slow
zombie or the super fast zombie is just like not
a genre.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I respect it. But for sake of argument, I'm willing
to play the game. Like how long would I last? Yeah,
how long do you think you would last?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
If I had a car with gas? Okay, I would
get the fuck out of LA and like head for
like a very remote, hard to get to area, and
I think I could last pretty long. Like if I
was in hand to hand combat with these motherbuckers, I
might be like it might be a couple hours. Like yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:59):
I'm not I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I uh, I love the zombie genre more and not
even uh you know, Isis always gives us these great outlines,
even for silly topics like this. And she did a
list of zombie movies and TV shows and I was like,
oh shit, I've seen like all of these. I love
(11:23):
these movies. I love World War Z. I love The
Last of Us. By the way, first episode of the
Last of Us is about a fungus that is a
real fungus that exists today that affects like ants and insects,
and they are finding and you can act like zombies
and so like the premise of the show is like
what if that jumped to humans and like did the
(11:44):
same thing barf, And it's real fucking creepy. Uh yeah.
The zombies and World War ZI are so fast they
scare the shit out of me. But I weirdly watched
that movie so many times. I don't know what is
char loves it too. What is it about that movie?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's so satisfying at the end when they figure it
out and he's walking like back through the zombies, and
I don't know, maybe it's like it's that thing about
like why people like survival survival with shows. It's such
a hard word to say, Yeah, survive, survival, revivor, survivalist, survivalist. Yeah,
(12:23):
we're actors, actors, we're actors. I mean he would say words,
that's sir job. I don't know, Like I think there's
something uh maybe like unconsciously empowering about like seeing human
survive hard shit. And I mean, like, I don't know
(12:46):
if I actually like same as you, if there was
a zombie apocalypse, yes, I would like gather supplies as
quickly as possible. I would hope that it wouldn't like
if it's in my neighborhood when it hits, I feel
like that's hard.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You're done. You're done.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, You've got to like make the choice, Like sometimes
it's better to like stay in place than like be
on the move, like you expose yourself more. I'm revealing
so much about myself, about how much I've thought about.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
This as someone who has Like I grew up in Texas,
and you know, you shelter in place for a hurricane,
but there's a certain point where you're like, we got
to get out of here, like and you have to
decide quickly, like you have to decide what that moment is, right, Yeah,
because let's say there's zombies in your neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah maybe if you have like a big enough, fast
of enough car, but like they could still if there's
enough of them, they could stop your fucking car, and
then you're done. Like maybe you have a better chance
of hiding in your house, locking down, having weapons because how.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Many is enough? Though? Like how many is enough? Like right,
like when you're talking, I mean I have an SUV vehicle. Yeah, no,
I'm pretty sure I could mow down a bunch of
at a at a that's my at a high enough
speed unless there's like five hundred zombies coming down you
know my street. Yeah, and that's not gonna happen because
(14:15):
I live in a suburbany neighborhood, right, Like what's gonna
happen is like the disease is going to spread.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But what if they're World War ze fast zombies coming
down from the hill.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, what's to say that they can't break into your house?
I mean, like that's the thing is, like you have windows,
It's not like you have shutters. You don't have storm shutters.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know, where are you gonna go your basement, like,
I mean, they're gonna those motherfuckers are gonna come through
the windows climb in, like and you're done, Like, you
gotta get out.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You gotta keep moving. You gotta get to the fucking
you gotta get to Appalachia. That's why that's where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, you gotta get Yeah, I'm going in the woods.
If I see, yes, if I'm like you, if I
see an opportunity to get the fuck out of Dodge,
I am heading towards the mountains. I am heading towards
the wood.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We're talking about this.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
This is absolutely I've got all the baseball bats I
can find. I've got all the knives.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh my god, I don't know. Have you ever worked
on it?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You haven't, right, Like we've done spooky stuff. I feel
like you've done spooky stuff. And we've done Halloween episodes
of Brooklyn Night Halloween episodes. No, I haven't done done anything. No.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I would almost did, and then my schedule like didn't
work out. But like, yeah, man, I love spooky stuff.
It's just so cool. Like me too, what's your favorite?
Like zombie esque? I mean obviously I think it's World
War Z, right, Like, do you think that's your favorite one.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I think World War Z is my favorite one. I
really love The Last of Us. Oh no, I can't.
I also love Sean of the Dead. The Dead so
good to me, A perfect film, a film also great intro,
scary movie for kids ps when they're like around like
(16:07):
nine or two. I mean, I think it was. It's
funny because they're they're used to like a faster pace
kids nowadays, so it was interesting. Like end, My kids
were into it. But it does move a little bit
slower than some.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Sean of the Dead and move slow.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well watch it again, the birth, the setup until they
get to bomby killing. Okay, it does like the pace
is not as uh fast as like kid movies are nowadays,
you know. But it was like, but it's a very
good like intro because it's not like too gory and
(16:46):
it's funny, and.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
There's something incredibly depressing about that to me. I mean
only because I just saw Frankenstein and it's also a
zombie movie.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I just saw it, like them lose it a little
bit because yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
They also well their kids they're kids also, but like
the kids, when I think about adults, I'm like, oh god, please,
don't let us lose. This is a sidebar, but I
read some stuff about TikTok the other day and I
was like, oh my god, very terrifying statistics. Okay, talking
YouTube anyway, Like I just saw Frankenstein, uh oh, which
(17:20):
is Gil's new movie, and it's also essentially a zombie movie.
I mean like he's undead, like he comes back.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
From the dead like kind of a zombie.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, chunks of dead people. And like it's when you
think about like that that was a.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Book, a written piece of literature, you know, like the
slowness of building a story in a book is just
something that I, Oh, it's so delicious.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I've been reading a lot later. Yeah, so maybe I
should read scary scary books. Yeah. Do you get scared.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
When you're I don't go to Halloween horror nights because
I should be wearing one of those little necklaces that
says like scares easily. But if you've ever done like
a haunted house or a horror night, do you get
scared of being chased by the zombies?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Are they scary to you? Like the weird like slow moving?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's like, I don't get scared scared. I will definitely
be the person that like jumps and screams, but then
I'm immediately laughing, like I think it's like it's fun scaries,
Like it's so fun to me. I love going to dhouses.
I did it a lot more in New York than
LA since I've moved to LA. But oh man, there
(18:44):
was a really good one in sleepy Hollow, New York.
Oh oh god, outdoor haunted house, haunted maze kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh that's so good.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, I think they're so fun. But yeah, I'll jump
and I'll scream and I'll but I won't get like
too scared, Like I'll be go laughing till I'm like crying,
like cry laughing.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I will not go out of my way, like I
prefer to be scared in the comfort of my own home.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And I will also laugh at you screaming and getting scared.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I won't be there with you. I'll be tucked up
in my up in blanket on my couch watching Sean
of the Dead. No, I want to be scared in
the comfort of my own home. God, Like, I don't
want to go out and like have strangers in zombie
costumes breathing down my neck like I don't. It's not
for me, Bro, it's not. Yeah, I just can't. If
(19:41):
you were in a zombie apocalypse, If you were in
a zombie pocalypse, what survival skills do you have? Like, Okay,
so here's the thing. I'll be real honest, I don't
have any.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I Okay, here's the thing. I delusionally think that I
have a lot because I watch a lot of like Alone, right,
so I feel I feel like I haven't.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I knew friend Krista was telling me about this show.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I was like, this sounds like an l escape.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's so good. The listeners what alone is if they
don't know?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Okay, Alone is this amazing reality show where people are
they are survivals. There's that word again, survivalists, survival rists, survivalists,
survival survivalists. It's the two one of those sounds, survivals
And it's one of those lists where it's what's that
thing when you say a word and it sounds wrong
(20:35):
no matter how you say it anyway, So they're like professionals,
like they know they have a lot of skills, and
they get dropped in the middle of the wilderness and
they have to survive, and like, I think there's some
seasons where like they have to survive for a certain
number of days, and then there's some that where it's
like the Oh there's another one that's very similar. It's
called like last one Standing, and it's like whoever survives
(20:57):
the longest, like wins the money or whatever. But these
people like and they bring limp, they bring us. They
get to bring a small amount of supplies with them.
So here's the thing. A lot of them bring fire starters,
and I'm like, people don't act like it is so
hard to start a fire. Yeah, that in the zombie apocalypse.
In addition to whatever I can grab as a weapon,
I am also grabbing all the fucking lighters. Yeah, all
(21:19):
the matches, everything I possibly can get to start a fire,
because what I've learned from these shows is it's really
fucking hard to start a fire with like nothing. They
all have these like fire starters that make little sparks.
They're like real tiny, and they just like make the
spark for them. And then even then they struggle sometimes
if it's wet, if it's windy, whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, but these people make houses in the woods, like
they will chop down branches entry and then they use
moss and it's like insulated.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Oh my christal somebody built like a cabin once, Like, yes,
they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
First of all, they look like log little cabins with
all the like green moss. So I'm like that aesthetically
is very pleasing. They they make they find clay and
they make little ovens, like even with little like chimney things,
Like it's insane and I've watched them do it so
many times that I feel like mine would not be good,
(22:17):
but maybe good enough, you know what I'm saying. Like
it's that kind of thing where you've seen someone do
something so many times you've never done it, but I
feel like I can figure it out, Like I have
some basic knowledge in my brain that if I just
find my like secluded wooded area, I would.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Be British bakeoff. I'm like, oh, yeah, I could do it.
I could do this, Yeah right, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
How hard the frosting thing to not fuck it up?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Absolutely not, I couldn't. I couldn't. But I like that.
We're like, yeah, our skill set is so absolutely not usable.
It's not me a buckle unless.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We're like thing though, unless we're like are we are
we are we acting like zombies to like there's a
there's a show might tell us, right, that's the thing
is like what kind of zombies. There's a show my
kids love to watch, The Last Kids on Earth, and
it's about like these kids. It's a cartoon. They're like
surviving around zombies. And there's sometimes where they like pretend
(23:24):
to be zombies because they get like they make a
mistake and they end up in a store that's like
full of zombies and they like pretend to be zombies
to like get out. So I don't know, like what
are the rules. I feel like if we are in
apocalypse with the kind of zombies that can't smell us,
that can't really that are like dumb zombies, maybe like
Sean of the Dead, they pretend to be zombies at
(23:45):
one point, then our skill set really comes in handy
because we we would we would fucking nail that ship.
We would zombies so hard, and yeah, that would maybe
get us out. May be helpless to write.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And we just like live among them, like wave to
them from our life.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
No, like we gather supplies. Yeah, like you go to
the broken down home depot because you need like one thing.
It's full of zombies. That's all right, I'll just walk through,
you know in the hammer that acts in my pocket,
walk out iteration.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You just wait it out, right because like at a
certain point, their bodies are going to disintegrate, I mean
like right or do or do they are they like
Frankenstein and that like they can't ever die? Like do
they never die? Or like in the Last Deal?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, like they're they're people that are like surviving by themselves.
And then there's people that like form these communities and
like strength and fightings like to fight against them, and yeah,
I don't know, Like I would like to say that
I would just survive on my own because I'd want
to like survive as long as I can. But I
also know I'm city as fun for what though? Yeah,
(24:57):
so I probably would i Hollywood, join like the communities,
you know, and maybe die.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I would have to join a community because at this
at a certain point, it's like, well, what are you
surviving for? Like are you what are you surviving for?
Like life is about sharing it with people they love
and laughter, yeah, happiness and like sunrise and sunsets and
storytelling and hugs and what else is there? Like survive for?
(25:28):
What you know, like if I'm just by myself in
a cabin somewhere like that, right, if I'm still creating
happiness for myself, then you know, now we're getting very no.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, yeah, my vocabulary is not big enough.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Okay, do you have emergency supplies like in your car
and like in your house. I, well, we live in California,
so I have earthquake packs.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Say in both cars that this is reminding me that
I need to check because I'm sure there's some expired
shit in there. I have. Also, if you don't do this,
I read this a long time ago. A pair of sneakers,
old pair of sneakers. Keep them in the trunck of
your car, because you just never know if you there's
an earthquake and you got to walk miles home or
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something and you're in a dumb little high heel, yeah,
and you're in a dumb shoe. So I have those,
I always say. And I have first aid kits that
actually I did just restock my first aid kit nice
and because there was expired stuff. But I don't have
like I know, I should have like stocked up water
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and like more canned goods, and like I don't really
I don't really have that I need to.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
You know, we have a bag that's like a it
is an earthquake preparedness an emergency preparedness bag, and it
has like dried foods and stuff so that we don't
have to have canned food. I think it has like
three weeks worth of food in there or something.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Okay, there's like and that's better too, because dried food
I think I lasts even longer than some And you.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Don't need a can opener, Like, how are you gonna
get that cannaean's open? Honey? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
We have water because I got really nervous a couple
of times, and like I said, I grew up in
a hurricane country, and like it was just it would
be so scary, Like when the hurricane was coming, it
was like, fuck, do we have enough? You know? That
was really scary. And also, out of Houston, there's really
only a couple big freeways that can get you out
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of the city because of the way that it was built,
So like once everyone is on those freeways, you're either
stuck on the freeway or stuck in your house. So
you kind of like.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Have to have stuff that's scary.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, and that would probably be the case in
LA honestly, like we'd all be trying to get on
certain freeways to get out, so like you got to
kind of know your way around. And that's also why
I have an SUV because I'm like, if I have
to go over curb, I would like to be able.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
To right right, if I have to drive through some
I want to know that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I want to do it. I want to do it.
What do you think your personality? Like, uh, what would
be your biggest liability and your biggest asset, Like in
terms of like we're in the middle of a zombie apocalypse,
We're like in it. What's your My base liability.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Is that I'm a mother, so like yeah, I mean
I'm just gonna do anything I can to keep her safe.
I'm not even thinking about myself. I'm thinking about yees
thinking so like helping other humans alive, which can be yeah, yeah,
am I getting distracted? Am I getting Am I freezing?
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I do have this weird thing where uh not that
I've been ever in like crazy crazy crisis, but whenever
I have been in a situation that felt scary or chaotic,
or was like a small crisis. I get really calm
me too. Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Whenever people are on drugs around me, I'm always the
fucking calmest one. I'm like, I get super yeah, like
you guys are freaking out, you can't, you're turning blue.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
My friend's daughter cut her hands like really bad in
my house and kind of was freaking out, and I
was like, okay, like let's call nine one one, And
I was trying to calm down or other, and I
was like, what are the next steps we need to do,
Like let's get a thing to wrap her hand, Like yeah,
so I hope that would happen, and I would be like,
we gotta do this, we gotta do that, we gotta
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do this. I think I would think, yeah, hopefully that
would be a strength, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Being a mom, Brad would be freaking out. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I've definitely seen David when I like broke my knee skiing.
He kind of froze when it happened, and like other
people stopped and helped me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Whoa, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He kind of like like he just didn't know what,
he didn't know what, he just rose. He just rose,
and then these two other skiers stopped and they were
like pop off her skis, like they kind of went
into action. Call the thing, you know, get the blah
blah blah. And I saw him like a little in shock.
But I've other times seen him like very much springing
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to action, but also like with a little bit of
a chaotic energy, like you know, a little bit of
like no, we gotta get busy good way, you know,
Like I don't know, he would just he would definitely
grab all of the weapons first, and he'd just be
yelling at all of us to grab things. And then
I would be like, okay, guys, here's the next five steps.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Although maybe if you're dealing with fast zombies, you don't
have time to do the next five steps. I mean,
if they're fast zombies, Like, to me, the fast zombies
are scarier because I'm not I'm not a fast runner.
So if it's fast zombies, if we're dealing with World
War z zombies, I'm just like, like, you know what,
just take me out real quick, don't make me a zombie.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, you fucking do me quick.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, Like in Sinners where she's like just you know,
if they get me sers that Oh okay, I know,
but it's okay.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I mean, it's my fault.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's no side note. Michael B. Jordan's playing two roles,
not one, but two. Michael bees delightful, delicious, incredible animal.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So I really am mad at myself.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Why do I Multiple times I was like, don't be
mad at yourself. Just watch it this season like it's Halloween.
To say, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I know, I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You really wanted to see it in a theater. That's
why I'm mad at myself.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, yeah, but your TV you just a big TV. Yeah,
I got it. I got a good TV. Yeah, yeah,
it's good. But I wanted I really wanted to announce
that's Frankenstein in the theater. Yes see it, because like
it is beautiful, like stealing. I'm not in it, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Experience in an audience, you know, and know, I mean
every movie, I think, but certain but certain ones. It's
like comedies like oh, it's just like the whole experience
is so heightened with like an audience that's also jumping
with you and guesting and laughing and whatevers. Like the
scope the scope of some movies like and yes, it'll
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never be the same on like a TV or like, no,
we're even worse like a laptop.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I mean, I can watch it again on a laptop.
But it was so and not for nothing, like the
performances on their faces, like you see everything anyway, Yeah,
I love it. Let's dive into nerd time a little
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bit nerd time because some of these were these were interesting.
Some of these were really interesting, like the history of zombie.
There was an NPR article that I thought was really
cool called Zoints tracing the history of zombie from Haiti
to the CDC so like. According to Haitian folklore, this
is from this article. While there's a long history and
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fascination with animated corpses in American literature and cinema, zombies
aren't originally a product of the American imagination. The undead
corpses actually trace their roots to Haiti and Haitian Creole
traditions that have their roots in African religious customs. According
to Haitian folklore, the book Race Oppression and the Zombie Recounts,
zombies are the product of spells by a voodoo sorcerer
called a Bokoor. The word is believed to be of
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West African origin and brought to Haiti by enslaved people
from that religion. The concept of zombies would further evolve
with the creation of Voodoo religion, which I think.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Is really interesting that they're not really interesting if I
think about it, Like, it does make sense that they
would that sort of folklore would originate in the Caribbean
because I feel like, yeah, Voodoo, Santaria and Cuba, like,
it's all so ingrained in like the especially life of
the death or the fear of stuff like that life
after death, the saints, the yeah, like all the spirits,
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the you know, it's all very like kind of cool
and spooky and but big in the in the culture
of like the Caribbean Irams.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
This is cool. The earliest reference to zombies in the
United States was closely associated with enslaved people and connected
the words to African traditions. The word zombie, which for
years was spelled without the e at the end, first
appeared in print in an American newspaper in a reprinted
short story called The Unknown Painter in eighteen thirty eight,
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oh thirty eight. I know, wow, I think that's so
cool that like and they've evolved, right, Like they've evolved
in American pop culture, they've like gone through different iterations
in film, and like, yeah, you know, I think they're
sort of the first, Like well, I guess like not
the first or zombie movies in like the thirties and forties,
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but Nighted Living Dead, which came out in nineteen sixty eight.
I believe this article says, as I'd considered a landmark
film in the genre, but I think that's so crazy,
like and the first iterations of them like to now
to these like fast moving, Last of Us, fun guy infected.
You know, I just think it's so fascinating that like
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they've evolved and probably will continue to evolve, you know,
like when you think about where technology, for example, is headed,
and like what zombieism will change into and like what
it will mean in the next sort of iteration of
like what's really scary? It's like you get infected, right,
and then you become a zombie. So what does that
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mean for art in the future, And how will that
sort of change and will it be a bite or
will it be like something that you see You know,
we're so we're always consuming, we're constantly consuming media, and
like wouldn't that be terrifying if like you accidentally saw
something and like that's it, it's over, You're infected, You're well,
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isn't that wait, that is a movie, isn't it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I never saw it? Isn't it the isn't it a
Sandra Bullock that they have to be back blindfolded the
whole time?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I never saw that either?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think so bird Box?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yes, yeah? Is it was? She scrolling though, Like I'm
what I'm saying is like, what if you don't know?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I never saw it. I never saw it. I just knew.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Isis Was it a scroll? Or was it a monster?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I think it's a monster.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I mean, here's the thing. What if you were just
on your phone and it was like boop, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
There's like the Quiet Place, which is also like another
great one that's a version of zombies, but it's it's
move it's monsters. But you can't make it to.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Your technology, Melissa, What if it was connected to your technology?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
What if it was like you know what you sound like?
You sound like the movie in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. She
makes a movie about cell phones that kill people, and
they're like make some fun of.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
It, Ah, how dare you?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
First of all? How dare And they're like trying to
have dinner and she's with Russell Branders, her new boyfriend,
and and uh god, and Jason siegles her eggs and
and he's like, yeah, she did that horrible movie. And
Jason Eegele's like, yeah, I know. I told her the
script made so fucking sense, Like, well, all your phone's
gonna kill you, like turn it off, turn off, don't
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charge it, Like what's it gonna do?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Like movie's over. You think that'll you think that'll stop people?
You really think that'll stop people who were so fucking
addicted to their Phone's girl.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
They'll be like, it's just it's fine, it's not my phone,
just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It's just a little scroll. It's just a tiny scroll.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Wait, guys, I googled box thing.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
It's an unseen entity and they're never explicitly identified. They're
just unseen by the audience, but they take the form
of each individual's greatest fears are deepest sadness, which drives
them too.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Oh yeah, that's like a that's a boggart.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's Yes'm Harry Potter.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
They wrote a whole movie about bog arts. Yeah, yep,
come on now listen.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I heard it was spooky. Okay, So there is this
great Georgetown University article that is like praractical advice for
surviving in an apocalypse, in a zombie apocalypse, and I
think it's so funny because it's like just it's so practical,
it's like real advice. But also I'm gonna read the
shit out of this multiple times. So it talks about
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like how people. First, it starts out with like people
how they normally act in emergencies, and you know, people do,
uh make mistakes because they're panicked and not thinking clearly. Oh,
it says how long how long would it take for
a zombie outbreak to become a disaster? Days, not weeks.
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There will be a point in a zombie apocalypse where
if it's cascading outward and we've become overwhelmed, people will
realize I'm on my own. You can predict the spread
and impact based on global connectivity and networks and flows
of goods and services including people. And then what essential
supplies do you need? And it says first water because
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you can survive three to five days on water alone.
Then obviously food then you need to think about medical
supplies and other things like how to generate electricity or
batteries to know what's going on. This is also just
like good emergency hurricane, earthquake things to think about. You
go from the basic needs to the luxury needs or
items that might help you survive longer term. And then
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it says and if in a zombie situation, it literally
says in a zombie situation, I think the first thing
you go for is some sort of weapon to protect yourself.
You're not surviving against elements, You're surviving against an aggressor.
Once I sought the attacker, then I look around and say,
what resources do I need or need?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Do I have or need.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
To sustain myself until the cavalry comes over the hill?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Would you rather be stationary on the move? There are
multiple challenges with being on the move. Part of the
calculus is I don't know the area very well. I
don't know what's going on. When you're in an area
you're normally not in and familiar with, you lack information,
which can be incredibly damaging from a survival perspective. The
other thing about being on the move is that your
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exposure is increased. You don't have a safe place to
hunker down or hide. You don't have that bunker that
you can close the door so no one else is
going in. You don't necessarily have the defensive posture position
like the castle with emote. The last thing I would
say is that you're limited in the amount of resources
you can have at your disposal because you can't carry
a lot of resources when you're walking or even in
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a car.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
This is horrifying. This is horrifying, by the way.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I anyway, I hate it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
I hate also.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And then it also says like head for the mountains
if there is a zombie apocalypse, head for our collections. Yeah,
I have aalaccha. Head for the mountains because there'll be
waters and streams that you could purify and drink, they'll
be fish. You'll be farther away from urban areas. Inter
Mountain northwest, he says, would be best. So we're kind
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of we're at least we're west, so we're a little closer.
Sorry East Coast, but you have you know, you've got
mount go, go head down to the smoky mountains. Also,
smaller islands, maybe how do you get to an island though, well,
like if you already happen to live near one.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, unless the fucking zombies.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Maybe Hawaii is gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Imagine you're on a flight to like London, and they
accidentally just don't have Wi Fi on the flight and
you land eleven hours later and it's fucking chaos, and
like Jesus, can you imagine, Like, this is why I
don't like thinking about this stuff. This is I don't
like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. It
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scares the crap out of me, and I don't don't
like it.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It's actually a really good idea for a TV or
for a show or a movie. So and I'm excited
to see an airport land in the next zombie thing
from and I'll be like they as to the podcast,
they get it on their phone. They get it on
their phone. That's how they turn into zombies. Is like
back in they're scrolling on TikTok and a little ad
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pops up and they find out while they're on the
plane and the pilot lands in a remote location and
everyone survives whoa.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
And they're in they're in like Idaho. They have they
have to land the plane in Idaho, and then they
all have to survive together and they start to like
gell each other. But then they had the wrong information
and it was like, what is that thing wore the
world where it's like all fake.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Oh yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Just out on a farm.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
They're on a farm in Idaho killing each other and
they don't know what happening.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah. Fuck, I like that movie. Should we pitch that movie?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Should we pitch that movie?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Maybe we pushed up some Maybe this sounds like a
good indie movie. Nobody's steal our idea. This is ours.
We're talking about it right now. It's our idea.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, trademark, Stephan, Melissa more better. Okay, so what did
you learn today? Melissa?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
What did I learn today? That I I think I'm
really prepared for a zombie apocalypse and I'm very confident
that I would survive. But also I'm pretty sure that
that is very delusional of myself. But I'm okay, I
feel like you.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I think you'd probably do pretty good for a couple
of days at least. I'm out within the first twenty
four hours. That's what I'm learning. I'm out.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I don't know you're gonna be mowing down some zombies
with your SUV for maybe like twenty minutes and then
apparently I don't know the terrain and like I'm not.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Oh god, I hate about this. I think it's fun
to spook yourself out with like spooky fun stuff. Yeah,
I'm all for the spook, but I think I like
the thrill of the spook. But when I start thinking
about the actual practicalities of this, it is actually terrifying
because you can apply this to actual disasters that would
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happen that are yeah, are refying to think about. Yeah,
so let's keep it fun and kind.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Of lie, let's keep it fun and light.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I don't feel a little more better, do you?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I don't think so. I think I feel like I'm
gonna obsessed about this for my.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
God, guys that if we've done anything here, we've really
created an episode in which like we've unsettled you, which
you know, happy Halloween.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I know. I'm sorry if we had unsettled you, Happy Halloween.
Check your emergency.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Packs, throw a pair of sneakers in the trunk of
your car, and throw a pair of sneakers in the
trunk of your car. Okay, bye, bye bye, more and
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Speaker 2 (45:14):
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Speaker 3 (46:05):
See you next week's suck us Bye
Wait, bait guys, one horse sized duck or one hundred
ducks size zombies.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh yeah, we did get to that one. Oh, I
guess we are still recording.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's very important.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I think I would do the little duck. I don't
want to think about because if you got like a
good bat with some nails sticking out, you could take
out like duck. You don't know if these fucking zombie ducks.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Zombie ducks have te Ducks have teeth, you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Know that like some like yeah, but ducks are not
that fast. Have you ever seen a duck like run full?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And they're all like low to the ground. They waddle,
they're less scary things.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We don't know, Melissa.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But I'm saying, if you have a good sized bat
with some nails, yeah, it's poking out of it, which
is from that show that cartoon.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Have you never watched a movie? Have you never watched
a movie?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's always like a swarm of and you just swing
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's the one that gets your eye. It's the one
that like jumps up and flaps up and like grabs
your lips or you could literally hold the bat and
like go in a circle.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, you probably knock like ten out at the time. Yeah,
rather the big one. It's just one thing to take out.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's just one thing. And like, you know, where's that
It's horse. I can't believe we're talking about this. This
is absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:44):
And here we are. Where are you? Are you in
your gym?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I'm in my home gym slash garage because there are
people in my house today and so this is area
number two where I can podcast from with Yeah, how
are you?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm pretty good. I'm I'm trying to ride the high
of my.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
A retreat. That's my more Better for this week. I
went to retreat retreat. It looks so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was amazing. I didn't want to go. I told
Brad I was nervous about going. It was a gift
from a friend and I was like, I don't know
about this.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It was really lovely.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm really glad. I went, I met some amazing women.
I had some really incredible moments by myself, which I
really needed. I realized when I was there, I didn't
I don't really do anything for myself. I try to
squeeze in things for myself while I'm working. You know,
I'll have a trip to New York or something for work,
and then I'll be like, I'll stay extra day. But
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that's not really right for me. It's me trying to
tell myself that that's enough for myself. I'm starving myself
of time for myself, and realize that while I was
there and I had a just great time, that's a
huge reminder.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, all women, all humans. Yeah it is okay, and
also like hugely important and beneficial to like really take
time for yourself.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I don't think men have the same issue.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, I'm living them. I'm being I'm generalizing hugely,
but yeah, yeah they do. Yeah, yeah, they're a little
better at uh yeah being.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Like they're supported. They're supported in doing that for themselves.
You know, they're supported in ways that I don't think
we are generally. Yeah, I mean, let's crack open the
patriarchal discussion right now. Okay, coming in hot Yeah, I
don't think that they. You know, for example, Brad goes
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on a trip every single year and he with his
fantasy football group and it's a big group of his friends.
He goes every single year, and.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I know a few dudes that do that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, that's something that he does with no shame. He
doesn't feel bad about doing that. He knows that that's
time for himself. He knows it's just a few days,
and he does it. Whereas I feel racked with guilt
if I am, like, right, I want to go somewhere
by myself. Is that okay? You're you guys gonna be
okay without me? Like, yeah, what about auditions? Like do
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I need to be available? Like I don't do clock
out for a week. I've never done that in my life.
Even the last time I went on a retreat, I
was rehearsing on my own for a thing that I needed.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
To do when I got back. You know, right, Yeah,
that's real. No, you're so right.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I'm so proud of you that you did that for yourself.
You thank you. What about you?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
What have you done lately that's more better?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh God, I feel like mine's gonna sound so bad
after yours.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's not every week that I come on here and
I'm like, I went on a retreat.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, so cause mine is like about basically like in
service of others, like exactly that's nice. Well, no, it's
you know what I've been doing more better that has
relieved some like stress and anxiety for me. I've thotten
a little bit better about meal planning and being intentional
(05:26):
about so like I cook. I cook like like I
don't know, like three to five days a week, and
we have to do we have to do lunches for
Axel now, so he started kindergarten. So I've been what
I've been doing is like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. And this
might sound like so basic, bitch, but like it just
kind of occurred to me in the moment as I
(05:46):
was doing it, and I was like, oh my god,
this makes my life so much easier. Is I'll make
bigger dinners so that they're for sure is leftovers on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
so I have stuff for his lunches, and then on
Thursday we eat leftovers whatever's in the fridge, and then
maybe Friday there is still some spillover or we order
(06:06):
food and then then I'm like the week just got
so much easier and like less uh hectic, because I
found that like by the time Thursday came, I was
like burnt out. I'm like what the fuck is for
dinner tonight? Or you know what I mean. And now
it's just like if I can just like nail Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday or even like I worked yesterday so we ordered
(06:27):
and like I'm going to cook, you know on Thursday,
like whatever. Like if I just focus on like three
days a week, I can get another like day or
two out of that food. Yeah, maybe just order two days,
and it just like feels like a new system I've
kind of figured out that's been working really well.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's great. It's so much stress off of yourself, so
much stress. And then I'm like enjoying cooking those days too,
because I'm just thinking about like two or three days,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Couldn't be me.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I thank you, but I like it, like especially when
I'm not working sometimes, like cooking can become like another
creative outlet.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So you kind of like made it easier to like
it for yourself too. Yes, now you're also enjoying when
you're doing it as opposed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like yeah, because it doesn't feel like so much every
week that I have to figure out.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, it's nice, well done, thanks, congrats, that's big.
I don't know why you were shitting on yourself there,
because that's that's big.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It just like it's one of those things when you
figure it out and you're like this feels really basic
and like I should have figured it out, but.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Nobody teaches is the stuff most and no one is
like there's no mom that was in the kitchen turning
to you and being like hey, so when you get busy,
nobody did that to you, Like nobody for me, No
one did that. No, No, it's very rare. We're the first.
We're kind of like the first chunk of people that
(07:58):
are starting to leave you. I mean maybe some people
were really lucky and had parents that were like a
little more evolved and stuff. Not that our parents were bad,
but they just didn't have time to teach us stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No, And it just I wish I was better at
like actual meal planning, Like I feel like some people
are so good at that, Like Sunday they lay the
whole week out and they like, that's amazing skill, but
that shit stresses me out. So for me, it's just
like I'm just making a little more food. Yeah, and
it's giving me a lot in return.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's awesome, more better.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
This is our Halloween episode, guys.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, EPI.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Now, I just want to preface this by saying this
episode's going to be hella dumb in a fun way. Yeah,
Like today we're talking about surviving as zombie apocalypse more
better at zombies. I don't know I feel about this topic,
but I'm gonna go with it. I saw it on
the roster and all I was like, I don't know, you, guys,
(09:02):
I have a lot of feelings about zombies.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
What are your feelings about zombies?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
They don't exist? Brouh but not real.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's not real. It's never gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.
I mean, a disease might spread across the country quickly.
That might happen, But I don't think like the undead
are coming for us anytime soon. Although I love that
the fun of it in film and stuff, and I
love you know, ghosties and ghoulies and stuff like that.
(09:35):
I'd love that kind of stuff. I love spooky doogie stuff.
It's some of my favorite This is one of my
favorite times of year. Zombies specifically, No, it's not real.
Do you enjoy zombie movies or shows? You know? Not really?
I like apocalyptic stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Obviously, I'm in an apocalyptic post apocalyptse show. Yeah you
are Twisted Metal. If you haven't watched it, it's on
Peacock in the US.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's watch it. It's really great. It's really fun.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Thank you so much. I love like survivalist kind of stuff,
like apocalyptic survivalist stuff. But like, yeah, the super slow
zombie or the super fast zombie is just like not
a genre.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I respect it. But for sake of argument, I'm willing
to play the game. Like how long would I last? Yeah,
how long do you think you would last?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
If I had a car with gas? Okay, I would
get the fuck out of LA and like head for
like a very remote, hard to get to area, and
I think I could last pretty long. Like if I
was in hand to hand combat with these motherbuckers, I
might be like it might be a couple hours. Like yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:59):
I'm not I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I uh, I love the zombie genre more and not
even uh you know, Isis always gives us these great outlines,
even for silly topics like this. And she did a
list of zombie movies and TV shows and I was like,
oh shit, I've seen like all of these. I love
(11:23):
these movies. I love World War Z. I love The
Last of Us. By the way, first episode of the
Last of Us is about a fungus that is a
real fungus that exists today that affects like ants and insects,
and they are finding and you can act like zombies
and so like the premise of the show is like
what if that jumped to humans and like did the
(11:44):
same thing barf, And it's real fucking creepy. Uh yeah.
The zombies and World War ZI are so fast they
scare the shit out of me. But I weirdly watched
that movie so many times. I don't know what is
char loves it too. What is it about that movie?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's so satisfying at the end when they figure it
out and he's walking like back through the zombies, and
I don't know, maybe it's like it's that thing about
like why people like survival survival with shows. It's such
a hard word to say, Yeah, survive, survival, revivor, survivalist, survivalist. Yeah,
(12:23):
we're actors, actors, we're actors. I mean he would say words,
that's sir job. I don't know, Like I think there's
something uh maybe like unconsciously empowering about like seeing human
survive hard shit. And I mean, like, I don't know
(12:46):
if I actually like same as you, if there was
a zombie apocalypse, yes, I would like gather supplies as
quickly as possible. I would hope that it wouldn't like
if it's in my neighborhood when it hits, I feel
like that's hard.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You're done. You're done.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, You've got to like make the choice, Like sometimes
it's better to like stay in place than like be
on the move, like you expose yourself more. I'm revealing
so much about myself, about how much I've thought about.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
This as someone who has Like I grew up in Texas,
and you know, you shelter in place for a hurricane,
but there's a certain point where you're like, we got
to get out of here, like and you have to
decide quickly, like you have to decide what that moment is, right, Yeah,
because let's say there's zombies in your neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah maybe if you have like a big enough, fast
of enough car, but like they could still if there's
enough of them, they could stop your fucking car, and
then you're done. Like maybe you have a better chance
of hiding in your house, locking down, having weapons because how.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Many is enough? Though? Like how many is enough? Like right,
like when you're talking, I mean I have an SUV vehicle. Yeah, no,
I'm pretty sure I could mow down a bunch of
at a at a that's my at a high enough
speed unless there's like five hundred zombies coming down you
know my street. Yeah, and that's not gonna happen because
(14:15):
I live in a suburbany neighborhood, right, Like what's gonna
happen is like the disease is going to spread.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But what if they're World War ze fast zombies coming
down from the hill.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, what's to say that they can't break into your house?
I mean, like that's the thing is, like you have windows,
It's not like you have shutters. You don't have storm shutters.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know, where are you gonna go your basement, like,
I mean, they're gonna those motherfuckers are gonna come through
the windows climb in, like and you're done, Like, you
gotta get out.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You gotta keep moving. You gotta get to the fucking
you gotta get to Appalachia. That's why that's where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, you gotta get Yeah, I'm going in the woods.
If I see, yes, if I'm like you, if I
see an opportunity to get the fuck out of Dodge,
I am heading towards the mountains. I am heading towards
the wood.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We're talking about this.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
This is absolutely I've got all the baseball bats I
can find. I've got all the knives.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh my god, I don't know. Have you ever worked
on it?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You haven't, right, Like we've done spooky stuff. I feel
like you've done spooky stuff. And we've done Halloween episodes
of Brooklyn Night Halloween episodes. No, I haven't done done anything. No.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I would almost did, and then my schedule like didn't
work out. But like, yeah, man, I love spooky stuff.
It's just so cool. Like me too, what's your favorite?
Like zombie esque? I mean obviously I think it's World
War Z, right, Like, do you think that's your favorite one.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I think World War Z is my favorite one. I
really love The Last of Us. Oh no, I can't.
I also love Sean of the Dead. The Dead so
good to me, A perfect film, a film also great intro,
scary movie for kids ps when they're like around like
(16:07):
nine or two. I mean, I think it was. It's
funny because they're they're used to like a faster pace
kids nowadays, so it was interesting. Like end, My kids
were into it. But it does move a little bit
slower than some.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Sean of the Dead and move slow.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well watch it again, the birth, the setup until they
get to bomby killing. Okay, it does like the pace
is not as uh fast as like kid movies are nowadays,
you know. But it was like, but it's a very
good like intro because it's not like too gory and
(16:46):
it's funny, and.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
There's something incredibly depressing about that to me. I mean
only because I just saw Frankenstein and it's also a
zombie movie.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I just saw it, like them lose it a little
bit because yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
They also well their kids they're kids also, but like
the kids, when I think about adults, I'm like, oh god, please,
don't let us lose. This is a sidebar, but I
read some stuff about TikTok the other day and I
was like, oh my god, very terrifying statistics. Okay, talking
YouTube anyway, Like I just saw Frankenstein, uh oh, which
(17:20):
is Gil's new movie, and it's also essentially a zombie movie.
I mean like he's undead, like he comes back.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
From the dead like kind of a zombie.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, chunks of dead people. And like it's when you
think about like that that was a.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Book, a written piece of literature, you know, like the
slowness of building a story in a book is just
something that I, Oh, it's so delicious.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I've been reading a lot later. Yeah, so maybe I
should read scary scary books. Yeah. Do you get scared.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
When you're I don't go to Halloween horror nights because
I should be wearing one of those little necklaces that
says like scares easily. But if you've ever done like
a haunted house or a horror night, do you get
scared of being chased by the zombies?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Are they scary to you? Like the weird like slow moving?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's like, I don't get scared scared. I will definitely
be the person that like jumps and screams, but then
I'm immediately laughing, like I think it's like it's fun scaries,
Like it's so fun to me. I love going to dhouses.
I did it a lot more in New York than
LA since I've moved to LA. But oh man, there
(18:44):
was a really good one in sleepy Hollow, New York.
Oh oh god, outdoor haunted house, haunted maze kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh that's so good.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, I think they're so fun. But yeah, I'll jump
and I'll scream and I'll but I won't get like
too scared, Like I'll be go laughing till I'm like crying,
like cry laughing.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I will not go out of my way, like I
prefer to be scared in the comfort of my own home.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And I will also laugh at you screaming and getting scared.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I won't be there with you. I'll be tucked up
in my up in blanket on my couch watching Sean
of the Dead. No, I want to be scared in
the comfort of my own home. God, Like, I don't
want to go out and like have strangers in zombie
costumes breathing down my neck like I don't. It's not
for me, Bro, it's not. Yeah, I just can't. If
(19:41):
you were in a zombie apocalypse, If you were in
a zombie pocalypse, what survival skills do you have? Like, Okay,
so here's the thing. I'll be real honest, I don't
have any.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I Okay, here's the thing. I delusionally think that I
have a lot because I watch a lot of like Alone, right,
so I feel I feel like I haven't.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I knew friend Krista was telling me about this show.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I was like, this sounds like an l escape.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's so good. The listeners what alone is if they
don't know?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Okay, Alone is this amazing reality show where people are
they are survivals. There's that word again, survivalists, survival rists, survivalists,
survival survivalists. It's the two one of those sounds, survivals
And it's one of those lists where it's what's that
thing when you say a word and it sounds wrong
(20:35):
no matter how you say it anyway, So they're like professionals,
like they know they have a lot of skills, and
they get dropped in the middle of the wilderness and
they have to survive, and like, I think there's some
seasons where like they have to survive for a certain
number of days, and then there's some that where it's
like the Oh there's another one that's very similar. It's
called like last one Standing, and it's like whoever survives
(20:57):
the longest, like wins the money or whatever. But these
people like and they bring limp, they bring us. They
get to bring a small amount of supplies with them.
So here's the thing. A lot of them bring fire starters,
and I'm like, people don't act like it is so
hard to start a fire. Yeah, that in the zombie apocalypse.
In addition to whatever I can grab as a weapon,
I am also grabbing all the fucking lighters. Yeah, all
(21:19):
the matches, everything I possibly can get to start a fire,
because what I've learned from these shows is it's really
fucking hard to start a fire with like nothing. They
all have these like fire starters that make little sparks.
They're like real tiny, and they just like make the
spark for them. And then even then they struggle sometimes
if it's wet, if it's windy, whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, but these people make houses in the woods, like
they will chop down branches entry and then they use
moss and it's like insulated.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Oh my christal somebody built like a cabin once, Like, yes,
they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
First of all, they look like log little cabins with
all the like green moss. So I'm like that aesthetically
is very pleasing. They they make they find clay and
they make little ovens, like even with little like chimney things,
Like it's insane and I've watched them do it so
many times that I feel like mine would not be good,
(22:17):
but maybe good enough, you know what I'm saying. Like
it's that kind of thing where you've seen someone do
something so many times you've never done it, but I
feel like I can figure it out, Like I have
some basic knowledge in my brain that if I just
find my like secluded wooded area, I would.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Be British bakeoff. I'm like, oh, yeah, I could do it.
I could do this, Yeah right, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
How hard the frosting thing to not fuck it up?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Absolutely not, I couldn't. I couldn't. But I like that.
We're like, yeah, our skill set is so absolutely not usable.
It's not me a buckle unless.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We're like thing though, unless we're like are we are
we are we acting like zombies to like there's a
there's a show might tell us, right, that's the thing
is like what kind of zombies. There's a show my
kids love to watch, The Last Kids on Earth, and
it's about like these kids. It's a cartoon. They're like
surviving around zombies. And there's sometimes where they like pretend
(23:24):
to be zombies because they get like they make a
mistake and they end up in a store that's like
full of zombies and they like pretend to be zombies
to like get out. So I don't know, like what
are the rules. I feel like if we are in
apocalypse with the kind of zombies that can't smell us,
that can't really that are like dumb zombies, maybe like
Sean of the Dead, they pretend to be zombies at
(23:45):
one point, then our skill set really comes in handy
because we we would we would fucking nail that ship.
We would zombies so hard, and yeah, that would maybe
get us out. May be helpless to write.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And we just like live among them, like wave to
them from our life.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
No, like we gather supplies. Yeah, like you go to
the broken down home depot because you need like one thing.
It's full of zombies. That's all right, I'll just walk through,
you know in the hammer that acts in my pocket,
walk out iteration.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You just wait it out, right because like at a
certain point, their bodies are going to disintegrate, I mean
like right or do or do they are they like
Frankenstein and that like they can't ever die? Like do
they never die? Or like in the Last Deal?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, like they're they're people that are like surviving by themselves.
And then there's people that like form these communities and
like strength and fightings like to fight against them, and yeah,
I don't know, Like I would like to say that
I would just survive on my own because I'd want
to like survive as long as I can. But I
also know I'm city as fun for what though? Yeah,
(24:57):
so I probably would i Hollywood, join like the communities,
you know, and maybe die.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I would have to join a community because at this
at a certain point, it's like, well, what are you
surviving for? Like are you what are you surviving for?
Like life is about sharing it with people they love
and laughter, yeah, happiness and like sunrise and sunsets and
storytelling and hugs and what else is there? Like survive for?
(25:28):
What you know, like if I'm just by myself in
a cabin somewhere like that, right, if I'm still creating
happiness for myself, then you know, now we're getting very no.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, yeah, my vocabulary is not big enough.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Okay, do you have emergency supplies like in your car
and like in your house. I, well, we live in California,
so I have earthquake packs.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Say in both cars that this is reminding me that
I need to check because I'm sure there's some expired
shit in there. I have. Also, if you don't do this,
I read this a long time ago. A pair of sneakers,
old pair of sneakers. Keep them in the trunck of
your car, because you just never know if you there's
an earthquake and you got to walk miles home or
(26:13):
something and you're in a dumb little high heel, yeah,
and you're in a dumb shoe. So I have those,
I always say. And I have first aid kits that
actually I did just restock my first aid kit nice
and because there was expired stuff. But I don't have
like I know, I should have like stocked up water
(26:34):
and like more canned goods, and like I don't really
I don't really have that I need to.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
You know, we have a bag that's like a it
is an earthquake preparedness an emergency preparedness bag, and it
has like dried foods and stuff so that we don't
have to have canned food. I think it has like
three weeks worth of food in there or something.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Okay, there's like and that's better too, because dried food
I think I lasts even longer than some And you.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Don't need a can opener, Like, how are you gonna
get that cannaean's open? Honey? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
We have water because I got really nervous a couple
of times, and like I said, I grew up in
a hurricane country, and like it was just it would
be so scary, Like when the hurricane was coming, it
was like, fuck, do we have enough? You know? That
was really scary. And also, out of Houston, there's really
only a couple big freeways that can get you out
(27:29):
of the city because of the way that it was built,
So like once everyone is on those freeways, you're either
stuck on the freeway or stuck in your house. So
you kind of like.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Have to have stuff that's scary.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, and that would probably be the case in
LA honestly, like we'd all be trying to get on
certain freeways to get out, so like you got to
kind of know your way around. And that's also why
I have an SUV because I'm like, if I have
to go over curb, I would like to be able.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
To right right, if I have to drive through some
I want to know that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I want to do it. I want to do it.
What do you think your personality? Like, uh, what would
be your biggest liability and your biggest asset, Like in
terms of like we're in the middle of a zombie apocalypse,
We're like in it. What's your My base liability.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Is that I'm a mother, so like yeah, I mean
I'm just gonna do anything I can to keep her safe.
I'm not even thinking about myself. I'm thinking about yees
thinking so like helping other humans alive, which can be yeah, yeah,
am I getting distracted? Am I getting Am I freezing?
(28:42):
I do have this weird thing where uh not that
I've been ever in like crazy crazy crisis, but whenever
I have been in a situation that felt scary or chaotic,
or was like a small crisis. I get really calm
me too. Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Whenever people are on drugs around me, I'm always the
fucking calmest one. I'm like, I get super yeah, like
you guys are freaking out, you can't, you're turning blue.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
My friend's daughter cut her hands like really bad in
my house and kind of was freaking out, and I
was like, okay, like let's call nine one one, And
I was trying to calm down or other, and I
was like, what are the next steps we need to do,
Like let's get a thing to wrap her hand, Like yeah,
so I hope that would happen, and I would be like,
we gotta do this, we gotta do that, we gotta
(29:34):
do this. I think I would think, yeah, hopefully that
would be a strength, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Being a mom, Brad would be freaking out. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I've definitely seen David when I like broke my knee skiing.
He kind of froze when it happened, and like other
people stopped and helped me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Whoa, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He kind of like like he just didn't know what,
he didn't know what, he just rose. He just rose,
and then these two other skiers stopped and they were
like pop off her skis, like they kind of went
into action. Call the thing, you know, get the blah
blah blah. And I saw him like a little in shock.
But I've other times seen him like very much springing
(30:21):
to action, but also like with a little bit of
a chaotic energy, like you know, a little bit of
like no, we gotta get busy good way, you know,
Like I don't know, he would just he would definitely
grab all of the weapons first, and he'd just be
yelling at all of us to grab things. And then
I would be like, okay, guys, here's the next five steps.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Although maybe if you're dealing with fast zombies, you don't
have time to do the next five steps. I mean,
if they're fast zombies, Like, to me, the fast zombies
are scarier because I'm not I'm not a fast runner.
So if it's fast zombies, if we're dealing with World
War z zombies, I'm just like, like, you know what,
just take me out real quick, don't make me a zombie.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, you fucking do me quick.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, Like in Sinners where she's like just you know,
if they get me sers that Oh okay, I know,
but it's okay.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I mean, it's my fault.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's no side note. Michael B. Jordan's playing two roles,
not one, but two. Michael bees delightful, delicious, incredible animal.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So I really am mad at myself.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Why do I Multiple times I was like, don't be
mad at yourself. Just watch it this season like it's Halloween.
To say, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I know, I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You really wanted to see it in a theater. That's
why I'm mad at myself.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, yeah, but your TV you just a big TV. Yeah,
I got it. I got a good TV. Yeah, yeah,
it's good. But I wanted I really wanted to announce
that's Frankenstein in the theater. Yes see it, because like
it is beautiful, like stealing. I'm not in it, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Experience in an audience, you know, and know, I mean
every movie, I think, but certain but certain ones. It's
like comedies like oh, it's just like the whole experience
is so heightened with like an audience that's also jumping
with you and guesting and laughing and whatevers. Like the
scope the scope of some movies like and yes, it'll
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never be the same on like a TV or like, no,
we're even worse like a laptop.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I mean, I can watch it again on a laptop.
But it was so and not for nothing, like the
performances on their faces, like you see everything anyway, Yeah,
I love it. Let's dive into nerd time a little
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bit nerd time because some of these were these were interesting.
Some of these were really interesting, like the history of zombie.
There was an NPR article that I thought was really
cool called Zoints tracing the history of zombie from Haiti
to the CDC so like. According to Haitian folklore, this
is from this article. While there's a long history and
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fascination with animated corpses in American literature and cinema, zombies
aren't originally a product of the American imagination. The undead
corpses actually trace their roots to Haiti and Haitian Creole
traditions that have their roots in African religious customs. According
to Haitian folklore, the book Race Oppression and the Zombie Recounts,
zombies are the product of spells by a voodoo sorcerer
called a Bokoor. The word is believed to be of
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West African origin and brought to Haiti by enslaved people
from that religion. The concept of zombies would further evolve
with the creation of Voodoo religion, which I think.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Is really interesting that they're not really interesting if I
think about it, Like, it does make sense that they
would that sort of folklore would originate in the Caribbean
because I feel like, yeah, Voodoo, Santaria and Cuba, like,
it's all so ingrained in like the especially life of
the death or the fear of stuff like that life
after death, the saints, the yeah, like all the spirits,
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the you know, it's all very like kind of cool
and spooky and but big in the in the culture
of like the Caribbean Irams.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
This is cool. The earliest reference to zombies in the
United States was closely associated with enslaved people and connected
the words to African traditions. The word zombie, which for
years was spelled without the e at the end, first
appeared in print in an American newspaper in a reprinted
short story called The Unknown Painter in eighteen thirty eight,
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oh thirty eight. I know, wow, I think that's so
cool that like and they've evolved, right, Like they've evolved
in American pop culture, they've like gone through different iterations
in film, and like, yeah, you know, I think they're
sort of the first, Like well, I guess like not
the first or zombie movies in like the thirties and forties,
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but Nighted Living Dead, which came out in nineteen sixty eight.
I believe this article says, as I'd considered a landmark
film in the genre, but I think that's so crazy,
like and the first iterations of them like to now
to these like fast moving, Last of Us, fun guy infected.
You know, I just think it's so fascinating that like
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they've evolved and probably will continue to evolve, you know,
like when you think about where technology, for example, is headed,
and like what zombieism will change into and like what
it will mean in the next sort of iteration of
like what's really scary? It's like you get infected, right,
and then you become a zombie. So what does that
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mean for art in the future, And how will that
sort of change and will it be a bite or
will it be like something that you see You know,
we're so we're always consuming, we're constantly consuming media, and
like wouldn't that be terrifying if like you accidentally saw
something and like that's it, it's over, You're infected, You're well,
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isn't that wait, that is a movie, isn't it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I never saw it? Isn't it the isn't it a
Sandra Bullock that they have to be back blindfolded the
whole time?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I never saw that either?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think so bird Box?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yes, yeah? Is it was? She scrolling though, Like I'm
what I'm saying is like, what if you don't know?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I never saw it. I never saw it. I just knew.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Isis Was it a scroll? Or was it a monster?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I think it's a monster.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I mean, here's the thing. What if you were just
on your phone and it was like boop, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
There's like the Quiet Place, which is also like another
great one that's a version of zombies, but it's it's
move it's monsters. But you can't make it to.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Your technology, Melissa, What if it was connected to your technology?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
What if it was like you know what you sound like?
You sound like the movie in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. She
makes a movie about cell phones that kill people, and
they're like make some fun of.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
It, Ah, how dare you?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
First of all? How dare And they're like trying to
have dinner and she's with Russell Branders, her new boyfriend,
and and uh god, and Jason siegles her eggs and
and he's like, yeah, she did that horrible movie. And
Jason Eegele's like, yeah, I know. I told her the
script made so fucking sense, Like, well, all your phone's
gonna kill you, like turn it off, turn off, don't
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charge it, Like what's it gonna do?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Like movie's over. You think that'll you think that'll stop people?
You really think that'll stop people who were so fucking
addicted to their Phone's girl.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
They'll be like, it's just it's fine, it's not my phone,
just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It's just a little scroll. It's just a tiny scroll.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Wait, guys, I googled box thing.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
It's an unseen entity and they're never explicitly identified. They're
just unseen by the audience, but they take the form
of each individual's greatest fears are deepest sadness, which drives
them too.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Oh yeah, that's like a that's a boggart.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's Yes'm Harry Potter.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
They wrote a whole movie about bog arts. Yeah, yep,
come on now listen.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I heard it was spooky. Okay, So there is this
great Georgetown University article that is like praractical advice for
surviving in an apocalypse, in a zombie apocalypse, and I
think it's so funny because it's like just it's so practical,
it's like real advice. But also I'm gonna read the
shit out of this multiple times. So it talks about
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like how people. First, it starts out with like people
how they normally act in emergencies, and you know, people do,
uh make mistakes because they're panicked and not thinking clearly. Oh,
it says how long how long would it take for
a zombie outbreak to become a disaster? Days, not weeks.
(38:59):
There will be a point in a zombie apocalypse where
if it's cascading outward and we've become overwhelmed, people will
realize I'm on my own. You can predict the spread
and impact based on global connectivity and networks and flows
of goods and services including people. And then what essential
supplies do you need? And it says first water because
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you can survive three to five days on water alone.
Then obviously food then you need to think about medical
supplies and other things like how to generate electricity or
batteries to know what's going on. This is also just
like good emergency hurricane, earthquake things to think about. You
go from the basic needs to the luxury needs or
items that might help you survive longer term. And then
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it says and if in a zombie situation, it literally
says in a zombie situation, I think the first thing
you go for is some sort of weapon to protect yourself.
You're not surviving against elements, You're surviving against an aggressor.
Once I sought the attacker, then I look around and say,
what resources do I need or need?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Do I have or need.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
To sustain myself until the cavalry comes over the hill?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Would you rather be stationary on the move? There are
multiple challenges with being on the move. Part of the
calculus is I don't know the area very well. I
don't know what's going on. When you're in an area
you're normally not in and familiar with, you lack information,
which can be incredibly damaging from a survival perspective. The
other thing about being on the move is that your
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exposure is increased. You don't have a safe place to
hunker down or hide. You don't have that bunker that
you can close the door so no one else is
going in. You don't necessarily have the defensive posture position
like the castle with emote. The last thing I would
say is that you're limited in the amount of resources
you can have at your disposal because you can't carry
a lot of resources when you're walking or even in
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a car.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
This is horrifying. This is horrifying, by the way.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I anyway, I hate it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
I hate also.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And then it also says like head for the mountains
if there is a zombie apocalypse, head for our collections. Yeah,
I have aalaccha. Head for the mountains because there'll be
waters and streams that you could purify and drink, they'll
be fish. You'll be farther away from urban areas. Inter
Mountain northwest, he says, would be best. So we're kind
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of we're at least we're west, so we're a little closer.
Sorry East Coast, but you have you know, you've got
mount go, go head down to the smoky mountains. Also,
smaller islands, maybe how do you get to an island though, well,
like if you already happen to live near one.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, unless the fucking zombies.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Maybe Hawaii is gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Imagine you're on a flight to like London, and they
accidentally just don't have Wi Fi on the flight and
you land eleven hours later and it's fucking chaos, and
like Jesus, can you imagine, Like, this is why I
don't like thinking about this stuff. This is I don't
like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. It
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scares the crap out of me, and I don't don't
like it.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It's actually a really good idea for a TV or
for a show or a movie. So and I'm excited
to see an airport land in the next zombie thing
from and I'll be like they as to the podcast,
they get it on their phone. They get it on
their phone. That's how they turn into zombies. Is like
back in they're scrolling on TikTok and a little ad
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pops up and they find out while they're on the
plane and the pilot lands in a remote location and
everyone survives whoa.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
And they're in they're in like Idaho. They have they
have to land the plane in Idaho, and then they
all have to survive together and they start to like
gell each other. But then they had the wrong information
and it was like, what is that thing wore the
world where it's like all fake.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Oh yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Just out on a farm.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
They're on a farm in Idaho killing each other and
they don't know what happening.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah. Fuck, I like that movie. Should we pitch that movie?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Should we pitch that movie?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Maybe we pushed up some Maybe this sounds like a
good indie movie. Nobody's steal our idea. This is ours.
We're talking about it right now. It's our idea.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, trademark, Stephan, Melissa more better. Okay, so what did
you learn today? Melissa?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
What did I learn today? That I I think I'm
really prepared for a zombie apocalypse and I'm very confident
that I would survive. But also I'm pretty sure that
that is very delusional of myself. But I'm okay, I
feel like you.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I think you'd probably do pretty good for a couple
of days at least. I'm out within the first twenty
four hours. That's what I'm learning. I'm out.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I don't know you're gonna be mowing down some zombies
with your SUV for maybe like twenty minutes and then
apparently I don't know the terrain and like I'm not.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Oh god, I hate about this. I think it's fun
to spook yourself out with like spooky fun stuff. Yeah,
I'm all for the spook, but I think I like
the thrill of the spook. But when I start thinking
about the actual practicalities of this, it is actually terrifying
because you can apply this to actual disasters that would
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happen that are yeah, are refying to think about. Yeah,
so let's keep it fun and kind.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Of lie, let's keep it fun and light.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I don't feel a little more better, do you?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I don't think so. I think I feel like I'm
gonna obsessed about this for my.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
God, guys that if we've done anything here, we've really
created an episode in which like we've unsettled you, which
you know, happy Halloween.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I know. I'm sorry if we had unsettled you, Happy Halloween.
Check your emergency.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Packs, throw a pair of sneakers in the trunk of
your car, and throw a pair of sneakers in the
trunk of your car. Okay, bye, bye bye, more and
more better do you have something you'd like to be
more better at that you want us to talk about
in a future episode.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried
one of our tips and tricks?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
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with Stephanie Melissa as a production from Wvsound and iHeartMedia's
Mike Utura podcast network, hosted by Me, Stephanie Beatriz and
Melissa Fumero. More Better is produced by ISIS Madrid and
Sophie Spencer Zabos.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Our executive producers are Stephanie Beatrice, myself, Melissa Kumero, along
with Wilmore Valderama and Leo Klem at w V Sound
and ISIS Madrid. This episode was edited by ISIS Madrid
and engineered by Sean Tracy and features original music by
Madison Davenport and Heylo Boy. Our cover art is by
vincent Remy's and photography by David Avalos. For more pod
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