December 4, 2025 • 43 mins
Stephanie has Gouda. Melissa has Rosie. Here at More Better we believe that every human should have a familiar. On today’s episode, our animal-loving heroines discuss all things pets. From their childhood fish and bonkers orange cats (IYKYK), thoughts on dog fashion, that one time that Melissa got really into the Cesar Millan training thing, that other time that Steph dyed her dog Banjo’s tail blue, to the pain of losing your soul dog — they get into ALL of the details of being a pet owner. Their main takeaway? Wipe your dog’s butt after a walk. Trust us.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let me ask you this before we start. We're started,
we already started. Do you have makeup on? Are you
putting makeup on for you? No? I can't do this.
I'm out. If that's what we're doing here, I got
I advocate my throne.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Here is why I have makeup on.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Okay, I have to take Axel to a birthday party
right after this.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You have makeup on to go to a kid's birthday party?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
First of all, all right, first of all, seventy back off.
I have tinted moisturizer on, some blush and mascara. I
don't really qualify that as like makeup.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That's literally what it is. That's literally what it is.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
More and more better, better, a little more better, more better.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, fine, it is makeup, But I'm saying like I
didn't do like a full beat. I just put some
mascara on and some lush on my cheeks, Like that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, yeah, more better a podcast. Stop pretending to have
it all together and embrace the what?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
What are we embracing the something?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're just trying to be a little more better every
day on. I have eye patches on because I'm trying
to be more better. I don't know these parents. He's
in kindergarten. I'm meeting a bunch of parents for the
first time.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't care. I don't know. I should be like
shorts and a fishing T shirt.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Not that I fish, but I do too. Once I
don't I know the people and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But when that's so funny because I'm like the opposite.
I'm like, when I know them, I try. When I
don't know them, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh that is interesting. I'm literally the opposite. If I
don't know them. The way to like make myself feel
less nervous is just like put a cute top on,
slap a little makeup on, and just like feel good
about how I feel my best. But when it's people
I know and I don't care, I'll just feel comfortable
and whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You saw me at that dinner the other night. We
went to dinner the other night, and I was wearing.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You looked so cute.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I dressed up because I was like, Stephanie always looks
really really cute at our dinners, So I was like,
what what can And then you looked so cozy, and
I was like, god, damn it. I want to wear
a sweater.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I was in my sweater with the horses with the
pixelated horses on it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Guys, uh West, what have you done lately?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That's more better?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Great you are making but make it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I done that, it's more better. Oh wait, I have
to show you this before we start. Okay, Oh my god,
is Amy Santiago? Is this sticker from? This? Is this
sticker nine starter sticker pack? And wait, I have to
(02:53):
see this other thing. Hold on, it's a tiny conflict
a notebook. Yeah, it's winder. And then this is the best.
Why is it in black and white? Though?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Can you color it? Wait? What is that?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's the it's the You're an Amazing Detective slash Genius Award.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh it is just a black eye.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's like you can see there's the seal. There's the
Brooklyn nine nine seal on it, and it's got like
little tabs up here.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I got this from someone on the internet at b
l U b i U b l U at blub
e u blue, and I believe they gave it to
me at like a comic con or something. They were like, here,
I me this for you, and I was like that,
(03:48):
so I finally opened it, and I thought that you
would want to see those and I'll save these. Well,
this one's mine because I'm I'm the winner of the
Amazing Detective slash Genius. But you can have.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
These, I mean, technically amy one more than row.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
No, that's enough, all right, that's enough, more better. What
are we talking about this week?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We're talking about pets.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yay, oh, something that we both love to talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Want to get more better at, want to get more
better at.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
We both got our first dogs at the same time
in adulthood, right, you didn't have a dog before Banjo? No, Yeah,
my first pet was a turtle that ran away as
a kid, but I mean like as an adult.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, as an adult. My first pet was my dog, Banjo,
who I got in my thirties when we were already
on Brooklyn nine nine and you had and I had Bella.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
She was my first pet kind of period we had like, yeah,
we had like fish and stuff growing up, and I
got her when I was like twenty two.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, I have to say the story because it was
on the tip of my tongue to be like fish
don't count, but they do. Obviously we've all seen finding
Nemo my college sweet Maids. So we had our own rooms,
but we shared a bathroom and she will remain nameless.
But we at the same time bought beta fish to
having our rooms, right, uh huh, girlfriend, I'm sorry to
(05:27):
throw her under the bus, but like she basically like,
let the water evaporate in that fish's tank, like god.
And that was I think the moment that I was like, oh,
this is a really irresponsible person. I don't want to
be around this human being like in.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Life, you know what I mean, I like a red flag.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, how people treat animals as a direct correlation to
how they are as human beings. And that's why Andy
Sandberg is the worst because he hates dogs. You heard
it here, not first he hates dogs.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
He yes, we would send him pictures of our dogs
all the time. You're like, look, tell me how cute
you think my dog?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Doesn't care?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
He also would never like harm an animal or a
small thing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Oh god, no, no, no, no, isn't that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I feel like there was even a Christmas where like
he was hanging out with a dog that he liked
and he sent us pictures because he was like, oh
my god, I'm hanging out with this dog.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I found one. I found one that I like.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, like I found one. Yeah, so I lay cold hearted.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
No he's not. Probably he's not going to listen to this.
It's fun you can talk about him. You know. I
had a cat when I was in middle school who
tragically was hit by a car. And he was like
he was this little orange you know orange cats. They
make fun of orange cats. How they're like absolutely bonds.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah are they?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He was off the wall bananas. He was an indoor
outdoor cat because for me my parents, my parents didn't
have animals that stayed inside the house, like my dad
when he was growing up in Barangia, Like they had
a dog that was like inside you know, yes, and
like that was just a deal guy, like's ud. They eat,
(07:22):
you know, breakfast and dinner and then that's it. Maybe
they eat table scraps whatever. My mom fucking hated cats,
like hated them. So when I came home, mom had
cats too. I don't know what it is, like, what
is it is it? I don't know what is it?
Like she's just scared of them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, my mom thinks they're dirty because they don't take
baths technically, and they clean themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
That's my mom's reasoning.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's so funny. She's like, that's a filthy animal.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
She's like, that's a filthy animal, and I don't want
to be anywhere near it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wait, speaking of how often did you give do you
give your dog? About?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Ye? Once a week? Dang, But David try good about it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I really try.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, we have a big dog too.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, it's kind of like sometimes.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
In winter will go a little longer because I don't
know why. She it's kind of like as soon as
we smell the stink, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
The dogs stink.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, like you give them a bath, they smell really
good like soap for a couple of days. Then they
smell just like nothing or normal, and then there's like
that little bit of like dander stink, like it starts
to come. As soon as we smell the stink. She
gets a bath. See, but that happens a little bit.
It takes a little longer, I think in winter for
the stink to come. So maybe it's like every ten.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Days or something.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
In winter, Gouda's breath is so bad that like that's
all you can smell because he's a dogs in Chihuahua and.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Like they're just yeah little just in their breath.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Little dogs in their breath. Man, it is yeah, funky,
fun and dunk like so that's why you can really smile.
But like ros won't really. She has like a tentative
relationship with Gudha, but a lot of times is like
trying to like get up in her face and stuff.
She's like, ew, no, good to your breath. Like, I
(09:17):
think roz is gonna have a lot of memories of
being like, oh, the dogs are gross.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
My bad, I should and this is so really little though, No,
you could like she'll have a dog maybe when.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
She's older, and it'll.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Maybe maybe, although like a child and a dog at
the same time is a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It is a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I think That's why I asked you, like how often
do you give Rosie her bath, because like we don't
do that, Like, I mean, he probably gets a bath
every two weeks. Maybe you know. Brad will straight up
be like, oh, just like put him in the pool.
I'm like, I don't think that's the same.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's not the same. No, it's works for kids, but
not for them.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's not.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Then they just my like wet dirty dog.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, wet dirty dog. Also he doesn't like to swim.
I don't know. Some chihuahua's like, don't. Chihuas are lappy,
little lap dogs. I'm like, I know, hate on chihuahuas.
But they're very, very loyal. They'll pick like one or
two people that they're obsessed with. Docsins are the same.
They'll pick like one or two people, and they're uber,
uber protective over those people. And I just think that
that's so sweet. You know. It's like Guda and Banjo,
(10:31):
my first dog. He was, Oh my god, Banjo was
like Banjo was my familiar. Like he was not a
real like dog. He was like a different alien species.
He looked like Steve BUCHEMI he did, yeah, And he
was an old old man when I adopted him. He
was like twelve already, and he would sit in my
(10:52):
lap in the makeup trailer. He didn't have a problem
with anybody. Remember you could. I could put him in
a sort of travel bag and like go out to
dinner with him, put him under the table and nobody
would notice him because he wouldn't make a friggin sound.
He was the best, and I think he spoiled me
a little also because he was so well behaved when
(11:12):
I was around that he just like I just didn't
know that you had to train up a dog, like
I didn't know. I didn't know. And then Guda came
and I was like, oh that you're not the same.
Oh what's happening? Yeah, everybody, what do I do? You know?
And now it's kind of too wet. Do you think
it's ever too late to train a dog? No?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I trained Bella a little late because I got Bella
I was young.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
She was my first dog. I got her as a puppy.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
She was so wild and I like basic things, but
like oh my, but also that dog was so smart,
like how you're talking about Banjo like Bella was. You know,
some people think that you have like a soul pet,
like one or two lifetime like Bella definitely was for me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
She was so smart.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Potty training her was hard because like she knew what
to do. She'd wait till you turned around, and she'd
like poop in a room that you never go into,
and then like you find it and I'd be like,
I've just freaking walked you, Like it felt like a
trying to outsmart a puppy in terms of like potty training,
not always like catching her when she had to go,
and I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Dog is messing with my mind, Like what is happening?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But I got her for New York, right, I had
her in New York and it wasn't I really didn't
start training her till I mean till she was out
of puppy miss, Like she was already like two or three.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And I got really into Caesar Milan and I wrote
his book if I watched his show.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Caesar Milan.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But that shit worked, and then I got really intense
about training her because she used to like she was
a big dog and she would like jump on people
when they came over, and like she like knocked down
this one guy who was like over six feet tall,
and like he broke a tooth and I was like,
oh my god. I was like and she didn't meet
(13:14):
She was just like joyful, but like didn't know that
she was like one hundred and twenty pounds yeah, and
she could hurt someone.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And then she like pulled on the leash and like
she was really strong.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So she might have even been older because there were
a couple my mom got hurt too.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Once walking her Wow because she saw.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
She pulled her so hard or something.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
She pulled her so hard because she saw a squirrel
and she pulled her so hard, and my mom had
like like it was it was bad. We felt really bad.
And then my mom and my parents were not dog
people ever. Yeah, mine were like I wanted a dog
growing up.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I would beg them, beg them, beg them.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Neighbors on both sides of my parents' house and you
know there's like a chain link fence between the yards.
They both had dogs. One was yappy, one was a
sweet Great Dane that he used to sit next to
the fence and he would come over to the fence
and like lay down and let me pet him through
the fence and lick my fingers and he was and
I would sit there and talk to him and he
(14:13):
was so I think that's why maybe I love big
dogs too, like my first like connective experience with the dog.
And but they never let us get dogs, and so
they when we got Bella, they were.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Like, oh, why are you getting dog? Da cut to.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
My dad's like giving her food off the table. They
like love her so much. She's so smart, so she
like listens to my mom's rules in the house, Like
she gets on our couch, she won't get on my
mom's couch. Yeah, and my mom is like so impressed
with this, but she does make my mom fall. My
mom gets hurt, like like black eye hurt.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh my an, I know, And oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
After my mom made us feel real bad about it,
then she and this is so my mom. Then she
told after we were like feeling horrible and like apologizing profusely.
But then she told us that when she got back
to the house and she was like upset and like
she grabbed some like frozen peace and she sat in
the chair and with the frozen peas in her eye,
(15:17):
and she was like, oh my god, I can't believe
this just happened.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And she said Bella came over and put her head
on her lap, and she goes, that dog did not
move until I was ready to get up from the chair.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh my god, she was.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That dog just sat there with her big head in
my lap, looking up at me like I'm so sorry,
and she just stayed there.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
They're so sweet, so sweet.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
They're so they can be so sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
They can be so.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Sweet animals if you really give them a lot of love.
Obviously they're going to make mistakes, like they're not. They're
like kids in that way, like they have to You
have to train up a dog, You have to train
up a kid.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Like got a train up but yeah, you got train
up a kid.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You got training dogs, you really do. You can't train
cats that much. Although my friend Katie owns she's been
a cat owner for a really long time and like
has had multiple cats, and she can train them. She's
trained them to like do tricks and stuff like that.
Her cats really listen to her. But like it can
be harder.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Really hoping you're going to say, to pee in the toilet,
because I think that's the only way I could have
a cat.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I had one of those cats that peede in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I was able to get my cat when I was
in junior high. I was able to get him to
pee in the toilet a couple of times. Like I
was really because I got I had him. I think
I got him over summer break and so I had
a lot of time and I was like, I'm gonna
I'm going to be one of those people that has
a cat that piece in toilet, And for a little
while he did, but then we would have to leave
the toilet seat down because my mom was really like
(16:52):
about that, like leave it down, and you can't do that.
You have to leave it up for them because you
have to leave I don't have opposable thumbs. They got
they might were right.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I mean we can't ask that much of them, Like
we're already in the toilet, we ask them to like
take care of the seat, put it up and down,
Like that's just too much.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I feel like I feel like I feel like for me.
Somebody asked me this yesterday. Actually they were like, what
was who was the person that helped you learn how
to become a mother? And I was like that was
a weird answer. But my dog, like my dog, Yeah, one,
Banjo was the one, like, especially when he was sick
at the end, when he was dying, it was like, oh, oh, oh,
(17:34):
you really are good at taking care of something that
completely and totally depends on you, Like you can be
responsible for that in your life. You've never had that before.
Here it is, it's in your hands and you're doing it.
You're like capable of it. Yeah. My dad also loved Banjo.
Loved Banjo loved like was confused as to why I
(18:00):
got an old dog because he was like, it's gonna
be expensive, it's gonna get sick, whatever. And then you know,
I'd bring Band home for all of the holidays that
I could, and my Dad would like sit there with
Banjo in his arms, like you know, with his coffee up. Yeah,
Like we would all sit around, be talking after dinner
and stuff, and my dad would have his coffee and
like be sitting there with Banjo in his arms. Band
(18:21):
would just be falling asleep in my dad's arms. Which
is also when my dad was like devastated when Gooda
didn't like him, Like he was so devastated, he would
like walk across the room and God would just be
like mad, like crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Now who to keep?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Would like probably would be fine, Like he loves my
mom because she walks him a lot, but.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
He hated my dad.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Hated my dad.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh good, I know, sad.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I keep warning my my parents haven't met our new
dog Rosie yet. And they loved you know, Bella, like
Bello left behind like such a big legacy, like all
the people in our lives like loved Fellas so much
because she just had so much personality and like I
said she was really smart our dog. Now Rosie is
so sweet, not so smart.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
She is a lovable, adorable baby. She's a baby still though,
right isn't she like two or three?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
She's she's gonna be three in January. She's like a baby.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
She's a baby. She's not street smart like she. I mean,
I know, Puppy's not in New York City, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Like she's baby boddled.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
She's got like a yard, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I know, but homegirl still chases her tail like home girls.
I know. Guda's not so smart either. Sometimes I'm like, oh,
buddy kind of looks at you, yeah, and there's like
like the look is different, Whereas like I felt like
Bella would look at me and like really be trying
(20:02):
to communicate that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah totally. And
Rosie's just like there's no that's her theme song, like yeah,
Kuda we used to sing. We don't sing it anymore
because we don't want Ross to pick it up. But
like Guda would come and sit like right by you,
(20:24):
like when you were eating. He'd just be like right
up in your ship. So I started saying, Guda, get out,
of here. Nobody wants here. Gouda, get out of here.
Nobody wants you here. But I can to stop because
like I don't, ros will start singing that. It's very catchy.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's very catchy.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It's very catchy.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
She swaps out the name at school.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Oh no, my god, ship man. Yeah, it'd be like
that with kids, Like it'd be like that with kids.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You gotta watch your mouth.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You gotta watch your mouth.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I've I like when you know, Bella and band died
right around the same time, didn't they like maybe six
months apart or something. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It was very close. Yeah, yeah, I think in the
same year.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
That was hard, and that was hard. That's hard, morning
a pet. Yeah, let's talk about getting better at that because.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't know, I mean, there is no way.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, grief is just grief.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But I we were actually out of town when Bella
passed away.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
What we think happened was like she had she there
was a tumor that we kind of knew about, but
the doctor was like, and we were going to take
it out. It was like Thanksgiving or something. We're planning
to take it out right after the holidays, and the
doctor was like, I don't think it's like an emergency,
but we should take it out.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Sooner than later. It was kind of like the general diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Then I think the tumor exploded because it was like
very like went from okay to really not okay within hours.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And our friend was watching her and her friend was
very close to her, and it was just horrible. So
it was like on top of the morning.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Of my pet, even though I knew she was nine,
and like I knew it was going to be happening
at some point in that year, just because like mastiffs,
it's like ten years, it's like such a timestamp.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's like ninety.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh, Like isn't there an like if you meet as
past the age of ten, it's like a miracle. Yeah,
David's families had a lot of Mastiffs. They've all died
at like nine or ten, and so it just still
was so shocking.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And then I think the thing that was like.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
The hardest was that it wasn't there, you know, and
like that was almost as painful, if not more painful.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Oh my god, I can feel like emotional right now
just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Still.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, yeah, I just wasn't there that I just really
really wanted to be there.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
In that moment with her, and that was a hard
thing to get over. It was hard.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's really hard.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's like it's just and it's like that saying like
you're they're such a short lip in your life, but
you're their whole life, Like yeah, it's it's so true,
and it's so.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And then you have to get used to not having them.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And I used to like hear phantom like her pause,
like what it sounded like when she'd walk down the
hall and her paws.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Would hit the wood floor.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, heard like phantom of that, like for many months. Yeah,
but we we got her ashes and we spread them
in her I don't you know if I should say it,
because it's secondly against living.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You spread them, that's enough, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You can always spread them somewhere. So yeah, yes, it's
a public land place.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He went into a pet co and just sprinkle them
in the corners.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And then we stay and then we got like there
was this little vial that we have some of them too,
that's like hanging on a cross like in our hallway. Yea,
and yeah, and We have a beautiful picture too of
when we did her ashes that my friend Dave Johnson,
who's a great ghetographer, took of us like a black
and white photo.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And so we have that. Yeah, And it's funny my
kids talk about her too, because we have really many
Bellows stories.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And I used to say too that when Enzo was born,
Enzo was not scared of any dogs. When he was
a little toddler, he would go up to the biggest
dog in the park and you know, and I taught
and I would always you know, you got to be
like safe, you got to like pass the owners and
teach your kids how to like approach a dog. And
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I did, which he picked up very quickly. And people
used to always be like, oh, do you have a dog,
And they'd be like no, and they'd be like, wow,
he's like so comfortable around our big dog, like we
just assumed you had a dog. And so I used
to say, like, I bet Ella, this visits him and
his dreams or something, that's why he's always Yeah, And
now he and Rosy are like just so cute together.
(25:31):
But she treats him like another puppy in the house.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
How was it for you when it's hard.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well, I mean my experience was so different than yours,
you know, like yours was so abrupt. I mean, yes,
you knew, like you said, you knew like okay, there's
a you know, not an expiration date, but like yeah, traditionally,
like I.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Knew the time was coming at some point.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, some breeds just don't live as long as others.
And that's something I think that you got to think
about when you're becoming a dog owner, right like this,
that's something that like I definitely, I definitely knew that.
That was part of why I wanted to adopt Banjo,
because it felt like somebody didn't realize how much work
it was going to be with him, you know, and
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it was like, oh, I don't want to have to
pay for this, so I'm going to dump them at
a shelter, which, like listen, trying not to judge, because
sometimes you just don't have enough money to take care
of your animal, you know, and that's a horrible day.
Or yeah, that is a really horrible position to be in,
and I don't judge anyone for that. But what I
think I do think about is like when I think
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when I thought about adopting a dog. I was like, well,
I could get a puppy, and then I could then
I could like have you know, all this time with
this puppy and I'd get, you know, his whole life
with me. And then I was also like, well, dang,
like there's this old dog at the shelter that nobody
wants that you know, I don't take him, Like look
at him. He's just like here in this shelter, like
(27:15):
he's not built to be in this shelter, and like
I have enough money, like I have a good job.
That that was when we were on Brooklyn. So I
was like, yeah, I could take him home and like
if something's wrong with him, I could probably help him
have a pretty good life. And like I did, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I you so did.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I remember helped him out of my just thinking like,
oh my god, what a generous and beautiful thing to do.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He was so crookedy, remember his crooked ass front legs
and like his eyes that were like like one in
each direction, and he was just so sweet and not
you know, like he can jump on my bed. So
like when Brad and I met, I still had I
think I didn't have a bed frame yet because I
was like, I'm cool with my mattress on the ground
(27:57):
because like then Bang can get in the bed. And
Brad and I met and he was like, so, how
long have you been in this apartment? You know, Like
I think that was actually when I had moved and
he was like, haven't you been here for a while?
And I was like yeah, but yeah. When when Bantots sick,
it was like it was hard because then you also
(28:17):
have to make all these decisions. Like that's something that
I think I got better more better at when he
was sick, was like, what are the decisions that I
have to make here?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Like?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Am I making some of these decisions just because I
want to spend more time with them? Because I think
that happens too. Like I think people like keep their
pets and animals alive past the time where maybe they
should let them go because they love them so much.
And dogs and cats especially, but I think a lot
of different kinds of animals don't say when they're in pain.
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They don't tell you as all the time. You know,
cats are really good at hiding pain. Dogs are pretty
chill about, like you know, knuckling down and dealing with it.
Until it's like impossible to deal with anymore, you know.
I remember Vanja. I was like totally fine, totally fine,
totally fine, and then stopped being able to walk and
I was like, what the hell, Like what's wrong with him?
(29:13):
Why isn't he coming? Like and I had to like
pull him home and then I was like I better
just carry him. And that was when we found out like, oh,
he's really sick. He's dying, like his kidneys are failing.
And I was like, wow, what do you mean it's
kidneys are failing. What does that mean? And they were like, well,
that means he has a limited amount of time and
you know, without fluids every day he will like quickly
(29:33):
go And I was like, okay, so how do I
learn how to do fluids every day? I was, right, sir,
right up giving him fluids every day.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It was crazy, but it was also like so fun.
It was, you know, he was the most fun at
the end, Like I took him to do you know
who Jess? I think her last name is Rona. That
la dob Grumer. That was like one of the first
ones that was like dying hair and stuff. Oh no,
I don't think she had this Instagram and now subsequently
(30:02):
has a TikTok. She grooms like people's dogs and makes
them adorable and super cute, and for a while she
was like doing I think she still does it, like
dying their fur, like just their tails are like the
tips of their ears with like doggie hair dye. And
I think band went to her twice because it was
very hard to get in. It was very exclusive. But
(30:23):
I knew somebody very exclusive, and he went and he
got his little tail dyed blue, and he looked so handsome.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You could tell he was like really proud for do
you remember that?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
He was like so proud of himself.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He had a little extra pep and he had a
little swash.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I was like baby boo. But that was the first
and last time that. I mean, I did spend quite
a bit of money on his little carrying case because
I always had it with me, and that was, Yeah,
I went fancy on that. But I'm also not one
of those people. It's like, you know, I don't have
like outfits if you are, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Although do you remember do you remember Rachel? Do you
(31:02):
remember Rachel on Wardrobe in on Brooklyn? Yes, so she
took her dog to a pet psychic and the psychic
told her. The psychic told her that her dog really
liked to dress up, and her dog was really sad
that she didn't get little outfits every day. So Rachel
was like, okay, so she started buying her outfits and
(31:23):
the dog, she said, was like it was like night
and day, like the dog would like tea out of
the house and her little outfits and stuff like didn't
want to wear the same outfit two days in a row.
Was like very all about her little outfit. What isn't
that cute?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That is cute? It's really pet psychic.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No, I don't think. I don't I I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I like Rosie will be like calling me dumb.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Oh my god. I feel like I feel like pets
are a really vulnerable place. I mean, like we both
talked about our animals and like we're still emotional about them,
you know, pets are so there's such a vulnerable place
for us as human beings that like I just feel
like there's like I would have to get like a
(32:10):
super super good wreck because I feel like that's a
territory where there's like a lot of like scammers, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Of course I want my dog to have the best
and like be happy and stuff. I don't want to
like I don't want to trust a stranger to be
like do you blah blah blah, you know what I mean,
like scan scan and be like, yeah, you're gonna need
to come back here next week because I don't know
how he's going to be doing. You know what I mean,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Know how he's Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I think that's
my my fear as well. What do you feel like
you could do more better with your pet?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Girl? Walk him? But oh my god. Yeah, here is
the problem. And this is where like maybe I could
get him some training or something. This motherbucker loves to mark.
He he lives, tomorrow, he lives.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He marks like every five steps on a walk.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's like every ten steps he stops. And so like,
I've come to this like place in my soul where
I'm just like, just let him sniff, just let him walk, like,
just take it at his pace. He wants, this is
what he wants to do. The problem with that is,
though we get to the end of the block and
have to turn him back around because now it's already
(33:28):
by the time we get home already, that's twenty five minutes. Yeah,
that's a twenty five minute yeah yeah. So then I
feel bad because like he's not getting like the enrichment
of a new experience in new neighborhood and stuff and
so but also is little.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Though, what happens if you just try to pull him along,
like he really fights, you let him mark like three times,
and then you just like you you just keep walking
and you're like, Nope, this is what we're doing. I
mean I try, I try, but like the problem is
like he is so little, and now he's getting old,
like he's starting to get the white around his eyebrows
(34:02):
on the white around his muzzle.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So like, I know, I just feel bad. I feel
bad when I pull him because I'm like, oh God,
because Banjo had arthritis, like that was part of why
he was so slow. And I think about Goudin, I'm like,
you know, I don't want to inadvertently like pull him
and hurt him. So then I just end up being
the person that, like you know, when people walk by,
(34:25):
they're like, oh, who's walking? Who han, I'm like, that's
such an original joke. It's not the time I've heard it. Whatever,
I mean that would be better, or like training maybe
would be something that I could get more better. I
will say something that I negotiated with Brad, my husband. Uh,
(34:49):
you know, he's my husband. I'm just saying, if this
is your first time listening, my husband's name is Brad,
I will say we have negotiated, like which of us
is giving walks on what days? So now we know,
like these are my days and I don't have to
ask anybody like did he get a walk? Like I know,
and I trust that's your day he's getting those. Yeah,
(35:11):
So like that that is nice because like I was
starting to feel like a nag because I'd be like,
did anybody walk? Guda? Are you gonna walk? Guda? Did
he get a walk today? You know? And like I
don't like, right, I don't want to be in that.
I don't want to I don't like that version of me.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I don't I don't like those either. Yeah, you know, Yeah,
that's smart. That's smart to like divvy up days like this. Kay,
I'm not going to ask, I'm just gonna assume that
you did it, or like yeah, got him.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, it's really smart. I like that.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I need to walk Rosie more. I The thing with
Rosie is when we got her a little spontaneously, because
my husband can be a little spontaneous, which is great
and sometimes not great, like getting a dog. Like literally
walked into the room and he was like, there's this
puppy at this home shelter. Uh, she should be gossive.
(35:59):
She yeah, like, but we have to go see her
tomorrow before eleven am. My god, at eleven am, and I.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Was like, what, oh, my god, we haven't even talked
about we like maybe about two getting a dog. I
was like, are you fucking kidding me? And then he
was like, no, no, no, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And I was like, okay, I said, I will only
go see the dog. I don't have the mental axel
was still a baby.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't have the mental capacity.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
To figure out the logistics of taking care of another
living thing. So you're gonna have to figure out the food,
the vet, the training. We're paying for training this time.
I'm not going to train the dog, and I don't
trust you to train it enough, so we're gonna pay
for training this time. Because we've got two small kids.
We got a little baby toddler in this house.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So I was like, and you have.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
To figure out where the dog goes and go out
of town because we fucking go out of town a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I was like, if you can figure all those things out,
I will go see the dog.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
And he did. Enter his credit, he did, he did.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
So David is always been of assigned Rosy care since
we got her. He's like the but he's like the main. Yeah,
and she like listens to him the most.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Of course, she's like a little bitch with me sometimes
because he's like Balfa, right, like that's how she sees him.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Sure, but when I walk, when I'm better about walking her,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
She's just like she's like grateful or something like she
follows me around more, and she does listen to me
a little bit more, and like you know, and she's
just like kind of always like buy me a bit more.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And I'm like oh, and then I feel bad and
I was like, I'm like, oh, do you like our
walks together more?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Shit?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Also, as we get older and like, as I don't
live in New York City anymore, and don't you know
and I live in a flat neighborhood. I feel like
I used to walk Bella a lot because we lived
in a hilly neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And I don't know, something like more fun about it.
But uh, it's good for me too that like afternoon walk,
I'm getting like a walk in every day. And it's
so there's like study after study after study that says
how good it is for you, especially women to walk
(38:18):
and like get your steps in whatever. Also just like
the habit of going for a walk.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, and you know, and that was one thing I
was happy that I was doing more when we initially
got her. I was like, oh, yeah, finally have like
a reason to like reason a little walk every day.
But then I get freaking lazy about it and I
don't do it more better.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I mean, it's hard to remember, you know, when you
said earlier, like oh, you're they're just part of our
world and where their whole world, right, Like it's hard
it's hard to remember that. And it's because it's really easy.
Like for granted, they're just like they're you know, they're
like they're part of the background of your life, you know,
(39:08):
and so like that, I think, to me, that's probably,
Like my takeaway today is that, like I have to
remind myself and and like when I look at him,
just go like right, like this is also your first
Somebody said this on on TikTok. Guys, I did put
TikTok back on my iPad. Okay, oh it's not my iPad.
(39:30):
It's not on my phone not but on TikTok on
the Tiki talkies it was like on the Tiki talk
this is also their first time here, like their first
time alive, you know. And I was like, oh dang,
and I haven't thinking. Sometimes when I look at Gooda,
I'm like, right, this is your first time here, so
like I want to make it nice for you too,
(39:52):
And maybe sometimes I roll my eyes because I know
I'm going to take you on a walk and it's
going to be the same thing again for me, right,
But what it is for him is like this all
new smells today, there's all new shit, Like if there wasn't,
he wouldn't be marking and sniffing for ten minutes to
the end of the block. You know, this is exciting
for him. And so like that to me is my takeaway.
(40:15):
I guess today is like the reminder that, like he's
not just part of the background of my life. Like
he deserves to be deserves to be walked on the
days that I'm assigned to walk him, that I assigned
myself to walk him. You know, he deserves to have
fun and not have me pull him along. And just
like sniff somebody's poo, do I wipe his face and
(40:37):
butt and feet every time he comes back in my house.
Absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Let me tell you, yes, can we make a PSA
right now?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Because as you have to wipe our dogs eat, you
have to, Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Every time she poops, we wipe her.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Butt, and you know, there's fucking shit. I'm not on
the wipe when I wipe her. So if you're not
wiping your dogs, but there's little pieces of ship all
over your eyes.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
If you learned anything today from this episode of the pod,
it's please be more better at wiping your dogs.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
But okay, just have a little little bag away just.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
By the door. What's the problem. That's so easy? Another
one swipe the butt takes two seconds, two seconds, throw away,
wash your hands, done, done, You did it.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Otherwise, if you don't do that, there's ship all over
your house.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
In your house. There is your house.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Every time they sit down.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Couch on your couch, babe's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's our p s A.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Do you feel a little more better? Do you feel
like you're better? I actually love that we ended on
that because we actually are very responsible dive owners that
we're doing that.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I do feel a little more better, and I do.
I feel like I'm gonna this week, I'm going to
try to like walk her more more, just like give
her more attention.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I feel like she gets she gets ignored a little bit.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Doctors too. It's hard. It's hard when you're it's hard.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
It's hard to dog butt and kids and yeah, yeah, we're.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Doing Okay, we're doing We're doing good.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
We're doing our best. We're doing our best.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Okay, we'll see you guys next week where we're definitely
not probably going to talk about dog poop.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, where we might buye Okay, more, more, more and
more better.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Do you have something you'd like to be more better
at that you want us to talk about in a
future episode.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried
one of our tips and tricks?
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Stephanie Beatriz, and Melissa Fumero. More Better is produced by
ISIS Madrid and Sophie Spencer Zebos.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Our executive producers are Stephanie Beatrice, myself, Melissa Fumero, along
with Wilmar Valderrama and Leo Klem at w V Sound
and ISIS Madrid. This episode was edited by ISIS Madrid
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Speaker 2 (43:34):
You listen to your favorite shows. See you next week,
suck us Bye,
Let me ask you this before we start. We're started,
we already started. Do you have makeup on? Are you
putting makeup on for you? No? I can't do this.
I'm out. If that's what we're doing here, I got
I advocate my throne.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Here is why I have makeup on.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Okay, I have to take Axel to a birthday party
right after this.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You have makeup on to go to a kid's birthday party?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
First of all, all right, first of all, seventy back off.
I have tinted moisturizer on, some blush and mascara. I
don't really qualify that as like makeup.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That's literally what it is. That's literally what it is.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
More and more better, better, a little more better, more better.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, fine, it is makeup, But I'm saying like I
didn't do like a full beat. I just put some
mascara on and some lush on my cheeks, Like that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, yeah, more better a podcast. Stop pretending to have
it all together and embrace the what?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
What are we embracing the something?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're just trying to be a little more better every
day on. I have eye patches on because I'm trying
to be more better. I don't know these parents. He's
in kindergarten. I'm meeting a bunch of parents for the
first time.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't care. I don't know. I should be like
shorts and a fishing T shirt.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Not that I fish, but I do too. Once I
don't I know the people and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But when that's so funny because I'm like the opposite.
I'm like, when I know them, I try. When I
don't know them, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh that is interesting. I'm literally the opposite. If I
don't know them. The way to like make myself feel
less nervous is just like put a cute top on,
slap a little makeup on, and just like feel good
about how I feel my best. But when it's people
I know and I don't care, I'll just feel comfortable
and whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You saw me at that dinner the other night. We
went to dinner the other night, and I was wearing.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You looked so cute.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I dressed up because I was like, Stephanie always looks
really really cute at our dinners, So I was like,
what what can And then you looked so cozy, and
I was like, god, damn it. I want to wear
a sweater.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I was in my sweater with the horses with the
pixelated horses on it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Guys, uh West, what have you done lately?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That's more better?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Great you are making but make it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I done that, it's more better. Oh wait, I have
to show you this before we start. Okay, Oh my god,
is Amy Santiago? Is this sticker from? This? Is this
sticker nine starter sticker pack? And wait, I have to
(02:53):
see this other thing. Hold on, it's a tiny conflict
a notebook. Yeah, it's winder. And then this is the best.
Why is it in black and white? Though?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Can you color it? Wait? What is that?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's the it's the You're an Amazing Detective slash Genius Award.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh it is just a black eye.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's like you can see there's the seal. There's the
Brooklyn nine nine seal on it, and it's got like
little tabs up here.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I got this from someone on the internet at b
l U b i U b l U at blub
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me at like a comic con or something. They were like, here,
I me this for you, and I was like that,
(03:48):
so I finally opened it, and I thought that you
would want to see those and I'll save these. Well,
this one's mine because I'm I'm the winner of the
Amazing Detective slash Genius. But you can have.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
These, I mean, technically amy one more than row.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
No, that's enough, all right, that's enough, more better. What
are we talking about this week?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We're talking about pets.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yay, oh, something that we both love to talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Want to get more better at, want to get more
better at.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
We both got our first dogs at the same time
in adulthood, right, you didn't have a dog before Banjo? No, Yeah,
my first pet was a turtle that ran away as
a kid, but I mean like as an adult.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, as an adult. My first pet was my dog, Banjo,
who I got in my thirties when we were already
on Brooklyn nine nine and you had and I had Bella.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
She was my first pet kind of period we had like, yeah,
we had like fish and stuff growing up, and I
got her when I was like twenty two.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, I have to say the story because it was
on the tip of my tongue to be like fish
don't count, but they do. Obviously we've all seen finding
Nemo my college sweet Maids. So we had our own rooms,
but we shared a bathroom and she will remain nameless.
But we at the same time bought beta fish to
having our rooms, right, uh huh, girlfriend, I'm sorry to
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throw her under the bus, but like she basically like,
let the water evaporate in that fish's tank, like god.
And that was I think the moment that I was like, oh,
this is a really irresponsible person. I don't want to
be around this human being like in.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Life, you know what I mean, I like a red flag.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, how people treat animals as a direct correlation to
how they are as human beings. And that's why Andy
Sandberg is the worst because he hates dogs. You heard
it here, not first he hates dogs.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
He yes, we would send him pictures of our dogs
all the time. You're like, look, tell me how cute
you think my dog?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Doesn't care?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
He also would never like harm an animal or a
small thing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Oh god, no, no, no, no, isn't that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I feel like there was even a Christmas where like
he was hanging out with a dog that he liked
and he sent us pictures because he was like, oh
my god, I'm hanging out with this dog.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I found one. I found one that I like.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, like I found one. Yeah, so I lay cold hearted.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
No he's not. Probably he's not going to listen to this.
It's fun you can talk about him. You know. I
had a cat when I was in middle school who
tragically was hit by a car. And he was like
he was this little orange you know orange cats. They
make fun of orange cats. How they're like absolutely bonds.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah are they?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He was off the wall bananas. He was an indoor
outdoor cat because for me my parents, my parents didn't
have animals that stayed inside the house, like my dad
when he was growing up in Barangia, Like they had
a dog that was like inside you know, yes, and
like that was just a deal guy, like's ud. They eat,
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you know, breakfast and dinner and then that's it. Maybe
they eat table scraps whatever. My mom fucking hated cats,
like hated them. So when I came home, mom had
cats too. I don't know what it is, like, what
is it is it? I don't know what is it?
Like she's just scared of them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, my mom thinks they're dirty because they don't take
baths technically, and they clean themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
That's my mom's reasoning.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's so funny. She's like, that's a filthy animal.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
She's like, that's a filthy animal, and I don't want
to be anywhere near it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wait, speaking of how often did you give do you
give your dog? About?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Ye? Once a week? Dang, But David try good about it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I really try.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, we have a big dog too.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, it's kind of like sometimes.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
In winter will go a little longer because I don't
know why. She it's kind of like as soon as
we smell the stink, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
The dogs stink.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, like you give them a bath, they smell really
good like soap for a couple of days. Then they
smell just like nothing or normal, and then there's like
that little bit of like dander stink, like it starts
to come. As soon as we smell the stink. She
gets a bath. See, but that happens a little bit.
It takes a little longer, I think in winter for
the stink to come. So maybe it's like every ten.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Days or something.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
In winter, Gouda's breath is so bad that like that's
all you can smell because he's a dogs in Chihuahua and.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Like they're just yeah little just in their breath.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Little dogs in their breath. Man, it is yeah, funky,
fun and dunk like so that's why you can really smile.
But like ros won't really. She has like a tentative
relationship with Gudha, but a lot of times is like
trying to like get up in her face and stuff.
She's like, ew, no, good to your breath. Like, I
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think roz is gonna have a lot of memories of
being like, oh, the dogs are gross.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
My bad, I should and this is so really little though, No,
you could like she'll have a dog maybe when.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
She's older, and it'll.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Maybe maybe, although like a child and a dog at
the same time is a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It is a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I think That's why I asked you, like how often
do you give Rosie her bath, because like we don't
do that, Like, I mean, he probably gets a bath
every two weeks. Maybe you know. Brad will straight up
be like, oh, just like put him in the pool.
I'm like, I don't think that's the same.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's not the same. No, it's works for kids, but
not for them.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's not.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Then they just my like wet dirty dog.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, wet dirty dog. Also he doesn't like to swim.
I don't know. Some chihuahua's like, don't. Chihuas are lappy,
little lap dogs. I'm like, I know, hate on chihuahuas.
But they're very, very loyal. They'll pick like one or
two people that they're obsessed with. Docsins are the same.
They'll pick like one or two people, and they're uber,
uber protective over those people. And I just think that
that's so sweet. You know. It's like Guda and Banjo,
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my first dog. He was, Oh my god, Banjo was
like Banjo was my familiar. Like he was not a
real like dog. He was like a different alien species.
He looked like Steve BUCHEMI he did, yeah, And he
was an old old man when I adopted him. He
was like twelve already, and he would sit in my
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lap in the makeup trailer. He didn't have a problem
with anybody. Remember you could. I could put him in
a sort of travel bag and like go out to
dinner with him, put him under the table and nobody
would notice him because he wouldn't make a friggin sound.
He was the best, and I think he spoiled me
a little also because he was so well behaved when
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I was around that he just like I just didn't
know that you had to train up a dog, like
I didn't know. I didn't know. And then Guda came
and I was like, oh that you're not the same.
Oh what's happening? Yeah, everybody, what do I do? You know?
And now it's kind of too wet. Do you think
it's ever too late to train a dog? No?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I trained Bella a little late because I got Bella
I was young.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
She was my first dog. I got her as a puppy.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
She was so wild and I like basic things, but
like oh my, but also that dog was so smart,
like how you're talking about Banjo like Bella was. You know,
some people think that you have like a soul pet,
like one or two lifetime like Bella definitely was for me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
She was so smart.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Potty training her was hard because like she knew what
to do. She'd wait till you turned around, and she'd
like poop in a room that you never go into,
and then like you find it and I'd be like,
I've just freaking walked you, Like it felt like a
trying to outsmart a puppy in terms of like potty training,
not always like catching her when she had to go,
and I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Dog is messing with my mind, Like what is happening?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But I got her for New York, right, I had
her in New York and it wasn't I really didn't
start training her till I mean till she was out
of puppy miss, Like she was already like two or three.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And I got really into Caesar Milan and I wrote
his book if I watched his show.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Caesar Milan.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But that shit worked, and then I got really intense
about training her because she used to like she was
a big dog and she would like jump on people
when they came over, and like she like knocked down
this one guy who was like over six feet tall,
and like he broke a tooth and I was like,
oh my god. I was like and she didn't meet
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She was just like joyful, but like didn't know that
she was like one hundred and twenty pounds yeah, and
she could hurt someone.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And then she like pulled on the leash and like
she was really strong.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So she might have even been older because there were
a couple my mom got hurt too.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Once walking her Wow because she saw.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
She pulled her so hard or something.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
She pulled her so hard because she saw a squirrel
and she pulled her so hard, and my mom had
like like it was it was bad. We felt really bad.
And then my mom and my parents were not dog
people ever. Yeah, mine were like I wanted a dog
growing up.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I would beg them, beg them, beg them.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Neighbors on both sides of my parents' house and you
know there's like a chain link fence between the yards.
They both had dogs. One was yappy, one was a
sweet Great Dane that he used to sit next to
the fence and he would come over to the fence
and like lay down and let me pet him through
the fence and lick my fingers and he was and
I would sit there and talk to him and he
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was so I think that's why maybe I love big
dogs too, like my first like connective experience with the dog.
And but they never let us get dogs, and so
they when we got Bella, they were.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Like, oh, why are you getting dog? Da cut to.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
My dad's like giving her food off the table. They
like love her so much. She's so smart, so she
like listens to my mom's rules in the house, Like
she gets on our couch, she won't get on my
mom's couch. Yeah, and my mom is like so impressed
with this, but she does make my mom fall. My
mom gets hurt, like like black eye hurt.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh my an, I know, And oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
After my mom made us feel real bad about it,
then she and this is so my mom. Then she
told after we were like feeling horrible and like apologizing profusely.
But then she told us that when she got back
to the house and she was like upset and like
she grabbed some like frozen peace and she sat in
the chair and with the frozen peas in her eye,
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and she was like, oh my god, I can't believe
this just happened.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And she said Bella came over and put her head
on her lap, and she goes, that dog did not
move until I was ready to get up from the chair.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh my god, she was.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That dog just sat there with her big head in
my lap, looking up at me like I'm so sorry,
and she just stayed there.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
They're so sweet, so sweet.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
They're so they can be so sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
They can be so.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Sweet animals if you really give them a lot of love.
Obviously they're going to make mistakes, like they're not. They're
like kids in that way, like they have to You
have to train up a dog, You have to train
up a kid.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Like got a train up but yeah, you got train
up a kid.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You got training dogs, you really do. You can't train
cats that much. Although my friend Katie owns she's been
a cat owner for a really long time and like
has had multiple cats, and she can train them. She's
trained them to like do tricks and stuff like that.
Her cats really listen to her. But like it can
be harder.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Really hoping you're going to say, to pee in the toilet,
because I think that's the only way I could have
a cat.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I had one of those cats that peede in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I was able to get my cat when I was
in junior high. I was able to get him to
pee in the toilet a couple of times. Like I
was really because I got I had him. I think
I got him over summer break and so I had
a lot of time and I was like, I'm gonna
I'm going to be one of those people that has
a cat that piece in toilet, And for a little
while he did, but then we would have to leave
the toilet seat down because my mom was really like
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about that, like leave it down, and you can't do that.
You have to leave it up for them because you
have to leave I don't have opposable thumbs. They got
they might were right.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I mean we can't ask that much of them, Like
we're already in the toilet, we ask them to like
take care of the seat, put it up and down,
Like that's just too much.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I feel like I feel like I feel like for me.
Somebody asked me this yesterday. Actually they were like, what
was who was the person that helped you learn how
to become a mother? And I was like that was
a weird answer. But my dog, like my dog, Yeah, one,
Banjo was the one, like, especially when he was sick
at the end, when he was dying, it was like, oh, oh, oh,
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you really are good at taking care of something that
completely and totally depends on you, Like you can be
responsible for that in your life. You've never had that before.
Here it is, it's in your hands and you're doing it.
You're like capable of it. Yeah. My dad also loved Banjo.
Loved Banjo loved like was confused as to why I
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got an old dog because he was like, it's gonna
be expensive, it's gonna get sick, whatever. And then you know,
I'd bring Band home for all of the holidays that
I could, and my Dad would like sit there with
Banjo in his arms, like you know, with his coffee up. Yeah,
Like we would all sit around, be talking after dinner
and stuff, and my dad would have his coffee and
like be sitting there with Banjo in his arms. Band
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would just be falling asleep in my dad's arms. Which
is also when my dad was like devastated when Gooda
didn't like him, Like he was so devastated, he would
like walk across the room and God would just be
like mad, like crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Now who to keep?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Would like probably would be fine, Like he loves my
mom because she walks him a lot, but.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
He hated my dad.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Hated my dad.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh good, I know, sad.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I keep warning my my parents haven't met our new
dog Rosie yet. And they loved you know, Bella, like
Bello left behind like such a big legacy, like all
the people in our lives like loved Fellas so much
because she just had so much personality and like I
said she was really smart our dog. Now Rosie is
so sweet, not so smart.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
She is a lovable, adorable baby. She's a baby still though,
right isn't she like two or three?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
She's she's gonna be three in January. She's like a baby.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
She's a baby. She's not street smart like she. I mean,
I know, Puppy's not in New York City, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Like she's baby boddled.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
She's got like a yard, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I know, but homegirl still chases her tail like home girls.
I know. Guda's not so smart either. Sometimes I'm like, oh,
buddy kind of looks at you, yeah, and there's like
like the look is different, Whereas like I felt like
Bella would look at me and like really be trying
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to communicate that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah totally. And
Rosie's just like there's no that's her theme song, like yeah,
Kuda we used to sing. We don't sing it anymore
because we don't want Ross to pick it up. But
like Guda would come and sit like right by you,
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like when you were eating. He'd just be like right
up in your ship. So I started saying, Guda, get out,
of here. Nobody wants here. Gouda, get out of here.
Nobody wants you here. But I can to stop because
like I don't, ros will start singing that. It's very catchy.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's very catchy.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It's very catchy.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
She swaps out the name at school.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Oh no, my god, ship man. Yeah, it'd be like
that with kids, Like it'd be like that with kids.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You gotta watch your mouth.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You gotta watch your mouth.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I've I like when you know, Bella and band died
right around the same time, didn't they like maybe six
months apart or something. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It was very close. Yeah, yeah, I think in the
same year.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
That was hard, and that was hard. That's hard, morning
a pet. Yeah, let's talk about getting better at that because.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't know, I mean, there is no way.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, grief is just grief.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But I we were actually out of town when Bella
passed away.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
What we think happened was like she had she there
was a tumor that we kind of knew about, but
the doctor was like, and we were going to take
it out. It was like Thanksgiving or something. We're planning
to take it out right after the holidays, and the
doctor was like, I don't think it's like an emergency,
but we should take it out.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Sooner than later. It was kind of like the general diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Then I think the tumor exploded because it was like
very like went from okay to really not okay within hours.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And our friend was watching her and her friend was
very close to her, and it was just horrible. So
it was like on top of the morning.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Of my pet, even though I knew she was nine,
and like I knew it was going to be happening
at some point in that year, just because like mastiffs,
it's like ten years, it's like such a timestamp.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's like ninety.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh, Like isn't there an like if you meet as
past the age of ten, it's like a miracle. Yeah,
David's families had a lot of Mastiffs. They've all died
at like nine or ten, and so it just still
was so shocking.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And then I think the thing that was like.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
The hardest was that it wasn't there, you know, and
like that was almost as painful, if not more painful.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Oh my god, I can feel like emotional right now
just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Still.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, yeah, I just wasn't there that I just really
really wanted to be there.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
In that moment with her, and that was a hard
thing to get over. It was hard.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's really hard.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's like it's just and it's like that saying like
you're they're such a short lip in your life, but
you're their whole life, Like yeah, it's it's so true,
and it's so.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And then you have to get used to not having them.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And I used to like hear phantom like her pause,
like what it sounded like when she'd walk down the
hall and her paws.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Would hit the wood floor.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, heard like phantom of that, like for many months. Yeah,
but we we got her ashes and we spread them
in her I don't you know if I should say it,
because it's secondly against living.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You spread them, that's enough, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You can always spread them somewhere. So yeah, yes, it's
a public land place.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He went into a pet co and just sprinkle them
in the corners.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And then we stay and then we got like there
was this little vial that we have some of them too,
that's like hanging on a cross like in our hallway. Yea,
and yeah, and We have a beautiful picture too of
when we did her ashes that my friend Dave Johnson,
who's a great ghetographer, took of us like a black
and white photo.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And so we have that. Yeah, And it's funny my
kids talk about her too, because we have really many
Bellows stories.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And I used to say too that when Enzo was born,
Enzo was not scared of any dogs. When he was
a little toddler, he would go up to the biggest
dog in the park and you know, and I taught
and I would always you know, you got to be
like safe, you got to like pass the owners and
teach your kids how to like approach a dog. And
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I did, which he picked up very quickly. And people
used to always be like, oh, do you have a dog,
And they'd be like no, and they'd be like, wow,
he's like so comfortable around our big dog, like we
just assumed you had a dog. And so I used
to say, like, I bet Ella, this visits him and
his dreams or something, that's why he's always Yeah, And
now he and Rosy are like just so cute together.
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But she treats him like another puppy in the house.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
How was it for you when it's hard.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well, I mean my experience was so different than yours,
you know, like yours was so abrupt. I mean, yes,
you knew, like you said, you knew like okay, there's
a you know, not an expiration date, but like yeah, traditionally,
like I.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Knew the time was coming at some point.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, some breeds just don't live as long as others.
And that's something I think that you got to think
about when you're becoming a dog owner, right like this,
that's something that like I definitely, I definitely knew that.
That was part of why I wanted to adopt Banjo,
because it felt like somebody didn't realize how much work
it was going to be with him, you know, and
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it was like, oh, I don't want to have to
pay for this, so I'm going to dump them at
a shelter, which, like listen, trying not to judge, because
sometimes you just don't have enough money to take care
of your animal, you know, and that's a horrible day.
Or yeah, that is a really horrible position to be in,
and I don't judge anyone for that. But what I
think I do think about is like when I think
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when I thought about adopting a dog. I was like, well,
I could get a puppy, and then I could then
I could like have you know, all this time with
this puppy and I'd get, you know, his whole life
with me. And then I was also like, well, dang,
like there's this old dog at the shelter that nobody
wants that you know, I don't take him, Like look
at him. He's just like here in this shelter, like
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he's not built to be in this shelter, and like
I have enough money, like I have a good job.
That that was when we were on Brooklyn. So I
was like, yeah, I could take him home and like
if something's wrong with him, I could probably help him
have a pretty good life. And like I did, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I you so did.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I remember helped him out of my just thinking like,
oh my god, what a generous and beautiful thing to do.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He was so crookedy, remember his crooked ass front legs
and like his eyes that were like like one in
each direction, and he was just so sweet and not
you know, like he can jump on my bed. So
like when Brad and I met, I still had I
think I didn't have a bed frame yet because I
was like, I'm cool with my mattress on the ground
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because like then Bang can get in the bed. And
Brad and I met and he was like, so, how
long have you been in this apartment? You know, Like
I think that was actually when I had moved and
he was like, haven't you been here for a while?
And I was like yeah, but yeah. When when Bantots sick,
it was like it was hard because then you also
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have to make all these decisions. Like that's something that
I think I got better more better at when he
was sick, was like, what are the decisions that I
have to make here?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Like?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Am I making some of these decisions just because I
want to spend more time with them? Because I think
that happens too. Like I think people like keep their
pets and animals alive past the time where maybe they
should let them go because they love them so much.
And dogs and cats especially, but I think a lot
of different kinds of animals don't say when they're in pain.
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They don't tell you as all the time. You know,
cats are really good at hiding pain. Dogs are pretty
chill about, like you know, knuckling down and dealing with it.
Until it's like impossible to deal with anymore, you know.
I remember Vanja. I was like totally fine, totally fine,
totally fine, and then stopped being able to walk and
I was like, what the hell, Like what's wrong with him?
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Why isn't he coming? Like and I had to like
pull him home and then I was like I better
just carry him. And that was when we found out like, oh,
he's really sick. He's dying, like his kidneys are failing.
And I was like, wow, what do you mean it's
kidneys are failing. What does that mean? And they were like, well,
that means he has a limited amount of time and
you know, without fluids every day he will like quickly
(29:33):
go And I was like, okay, so how do I
learn how to do fluids every day? I was, right, sir,
right up giving him fluids every day.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It was crazy, but it was also like so fun.
It was, you know, he was the most fun at
the end, Like I took him to do you know
who Jess? I think her last name is Rona. That
la dob Grumer. That was like one of the first
ones that was like dying hair and stuff. Oh no,
I don't think she had this Instagram and now subsequently
(30:02):
has a TikTok. She grooms like people's dogs and makes
them adorable and super cute, and for a while she
was like doing I think she still does it, like
dying their fur, like just their tails are like the
tips of their ears with like doggie hair dye. And
I think band went to her twice because it was
very hard to get in. It was very exclusive. But
(30:23):
I knew somebody very exclusive, and he went and he
got his little tail dyed blue, and he looked so handsome.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You could tell he was like really proud for do
you remember that?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
He was like so proud of himself.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He had a little extra pep and he had a
little swash.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I was like baby boo. But that was the first
and last time that. I mean, I did spend quite
a bit of money on his little carrying case because
I always had it with me, and that was, Yeah,
I went fancy on that. But I'm also not one
of those people. It's like, you know, I don't have
like outfits if you are, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Although do you remember do you remember Rachel? Do you
(31:02):
remember Rachel on Wardrobe in on Brooklyn? Yes, so she
took her dog to a pet psychic and the psychic
told her. The psychic told her that her dog really
liked to dress up, and her dog was really sad
that she didn't get little outfits every day. So Rachel
was like, okay, so she started buying her outfits and
(31:23):
the dog, she said, was like it was like night
and day, like the dog would like tea out of
the house and her little outfits and stuff like didn't
want to wear the same outfit two days in a row.
Was like very all about her little outfit. What isn't
that cute?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That is cute? It's really pet psychic.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No, I don't think. I don't I I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I like Rosie will be like calling me dumb.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Oh my god. I feel like I feel like pets
are a really vulnerable place. I mean, like we both
talked about our animals and like we're still emotional about them,
you know, pets are so there's such a vulnerable place
for us as human beings that like I just feel
like there's like I would have to get like a
(32:10):
super super good wreck because I feel like that's a
territory where there's like a lot of like scammers, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Of course I want my dog to have the best
and like be happy and stuff. I don't want to
like I don't want to trust a stranger to be
like do you blah blah blah, you know what I mean,
like scan scan and be like, yeah, you're gonna need
to come back here next week because I don't know
how he's going to be doing. You know what I mean,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Know how he's Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I think that's
my my fear as well. What do you feel like
you could do more better with your pet?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Girl? Walk him? But oh my god. Yeah, here is
the problem. And this is where like maybe I could
get him some training or something. This motherbucker loves to mark.
He he lives, tomorrow, he lives.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He marks like every five steps on a walk.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's like every ten steps he stops. And so like,
I've come to this like place in my soul where
I'm just like, just let him sniff, just let him walk, like,
just take it at his pace. He wants, this is
what he wants to do. The problem with that is,
though we get to the end of the block and
have to turn him back around because now it's already
(33:28):
by the time we get home already, that's twenty five minutes. Yeah,
that's a twenty five minute yeah yeah. So then I
feel bad because like he's not getting like the enrichment
of a new experience in new neighborhood and stuff and
so but also is little.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Though, what happens if you just try to pull him along,
like he really fights, you let him mark like three times,
and then you just like you you just keep walking
and you're like, Nope, this is what we're doing. I
mean I try, I try, but like the problem is
like he is so little, and now he's getting old,
like he's starting to get the white around his eyebrows
(34:02):
on the white around his muzzle.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So like, I know, I just feel bad. I feel
bad when I pull him because I'm like, oh God,
because Banjo had arthritis, like that was part of why
he was so slow. And I think about Goudin, I'm like,
you know, I don't want to inadvertently like pull him
and hurt him. So then I just end up being
the person that, like you know, when people walk by,
(34:25):
they're like, oh, who's walking? Who han, I'm like, that's
such an original joke. It's not the time I've heard it. Whatever,
I mean that would be better, or like training maybe
would be something that I could get more better. I
will say something that I negotiated with Brad, my husband. Uh,
(34:49):
you know, he's my husband. I'm just saying, if this
is your first time listening, my husband's name is Brad,
I will say we have negotiated, like which of us
is giving walks on what days? So now we know,
like these are my days and I don't have to
ask anybody like did he get a walk? Like I know,
and I trust that's your day he's getting those. Yeah,
(35:11):
So like that that is nice because like I was
starting to feel like a nag because I'd be like,
did anybody walk? Guda? Are you gonna walk? Guda? Did
he get a walk today? You know? And like I
don't like, right, I don't want to be in that.
I don't want to I don't like that version of me.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I don't I don't like those either. Yeah, you know, Yeah,
that's smart. That's smart to like divvy up days like this. Kay,
I'm not going to ask, I'm just gonna assume that
you did it, or like yeah, got him.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, it's really smart. I like that.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I need to walk Rosie more. I The thing with
Rosie is when we got her a little spontaneously, because
my husband can be a little spontaneous, which is great
and sometimes not great, like getting a dog. Like literally
walked into the room and he was like, there's this
puppy at this home shelter. Uh, she should be gossive.
(35:59):
She yeah, like, but we have to go see her
tomorrow before eleven am. My god, at eleven am, and I.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Was like, what, oh, my god, we haven't even talked
about we like maybe about two getting a dog. I
was like, are you fucking kidding me? And then he
was like, no, no, no, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And I was like, okay, I said, I will only
go see the dog. I don't have the mental axel
was still a baby.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't have the mental capacity.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
To figure out the logistics of taking care of another
living thing. So you're gonna have to figure out the food,
the vet, the training. We're paying for training this time.
I'm not going to train the dog, and I don't
trust you to train it enough, so we're gonna pay
for training this time. Because we've got two small kids.
We got a little baby toddler in this house.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So I was like, and you have.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
To figure out where the dog goes and go out
of town because we fucking go out of town a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I was like, if you can figure all those things out,
I will go see the dog.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
And he did. Enter his credit, he did, he did.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
So David is always been of assigned Rosy care since
we got her. He's like the but he's like the main. Yeah,
and she like listens to him the most.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Of course, she's like a little bitch with me sometimes
because he's like Balfa, right, like that's how she sees him.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Sure, but when I walk, when I'm better about walking her,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
She's just like she's like grateful or something like she
follows me around more, and she does listen to me
a little bit more, and like you know, and she's
just like kind of always like buy me a bit more.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And I'm like oh, and then I feel bad and
I was like, I'm like, oh, do you like our
walks together more?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Shit?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Also, as we get older and like, as I don't
live in New York City anymore, and don't you know
and I live in a flat neighborhood. I feel like
I used to walk Bella a lot because we lived
in a hilly neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And I don't know, something like more fun about it.
But uh, it's good for me too that like afternoon walk,
I'm getting like a walk in every day. And it's
so there's like study after study after study that says
how good it is for you, especially women to walk
(38:18):
and like get your steps in whatever. Also just like
the habit of going for a walk.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, and you know, and that was one thing I
was happy that I was doing more when we initially
got her. I was like, oh, yeah, finally have like
a reason to like reason a little walk every day.
But then I get freaking lazy about it and I
don't do it more better.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I mean, it's hard to remember, you know, when you
said earlier, like oh, you're they're just part of our
world and where their whole world, right, Like it's hard
it's hard to remember that. And it's because it's really easy.
Like for granted, they're just like they're you know, they're
like they're part of the background of your life, you know,
(39:08):
and so like that, I think, to me, that's probably,
Like my takeaway today is that, like I have to
remind myself and and like when I look at him,
just go like right, like this is also your first
Somebody said this on on TikTok. Guys, I did put
TikTok back on my iPad. Okay, oh it's not my iPad.
(39:30):
It's not on my phone not but on TikTok on
the Tiki talkies it was like on the Tiki talk
this is also their first time here, like their first
time alive, you know. And I was like, oh dang,
and I haven't thinking. Sometimes when I look at Gooda,
I'm like, right, this is your first time here, so
like I want to make it nice for you too,
(39:52):
And maybe sometimes I roll my eyes because I know
I'm going to take you on a walk and it's
going to be the same thing again for me, right,
But what it is for him is like this all
new smells today, there's all new shit, Like if there wasn't,
he wouldn't be marking and sniffing for ten minutes to
the end of the block. You know, this is exciting
for him. And so like that to me is my takeaway.
(40:15):
I guess today is like the reminder that, like he's
not just part of the background of my life. Like
he deserves to be deserves to be walked on the
days that I'm assigned to walk him, that I assigned
myself to walk him. You know, he deserves to have
fun and not have me pull him along. And just
like sniff somebody's poo, do I wipe his face and
(40:37):
butt and feet every time he comes back in my house.
Absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Let me tell you, yes, can we make a PSA
right now?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Because as you have to wipe our dogs eat, you
have to, Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Every time she poops, we wipe her.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Butt, and you know, there's fucking shit. I'm not on
the wipe when I wipe her. So if you're not
wiping your dogs, but there's little pieces of ship all
over your eyes.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
If you learned anything today from this episode of the pod,
it's please be more better at wiping your dogs.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
But okay, just have a little little bag away just.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
By the door. What's the problem. That's so easy? Another
one swipe the butt takes two seconds, two seconds, throw away,
wash your hands, done, done, You did it.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Otherwise, if you don't do that, there's ship all over
your house.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
In your house. There is your house.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Every time they sit down.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Couch on your couch, babe's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's our p s A.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Do you feel a little more better? Do you feel
like you're better? I actually love that we ended on
that because we actually are very responsible dive owners that
we're doing that.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I do feel a little more better, and I do.
I feel like I'm gonna this week, I'm going to
try to like walk her more more, just like give
her more attention.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I feel like she gets she gets ignored a little bit.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Doctors too. It's hard. It's hard when you're it's hard.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
It's hard to dog butt and kids and yeah, yeah, we're.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Doing Okay, we're doing We're doing good.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
We're doing our best. We're doing our best.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Okay, we'll see you guys next week where we're definitely
not probably going to talk about dog poop.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, where we might buye Okay, more, more, more and
more better.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Do you have something you'd like to be more better
at that you want us to talk about in a
future episode.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried
one of our tips and tricks?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at More Better pod
at gmail dot com and include a voice note if
you want to be featured on the pod. Oh More
Better with Stephanie Melissa is a production from w u
V Sound and iHeartMedia's my Kuntura podcast network, hosted by me,
Stephanie Beatriz, and Melissa Fumero. More Better is produced by
ISIS Madrid and Sophie Spencer Zebos.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Our executive producers are Stephanie Beatrice, myself, Melissa Fumero, along
with Wilmar Valderrama and Leo Klem at w V Sound
and ISIS Madrid. This episode was edited by ISIS Madrid
and engineered by Sean Tracy and features original music by
Madison Davenport and Hello Boy. Our cover art is by
vincent Remy's and photography by David Avalos. For more podcasts
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Speaker 2 (43:34):
You listen to your favorite shows. See you next week,
suck us Bye,
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Stephanie Beatriz
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