November 28, 2024 • 39 mins
You know it. You love hate it. You’re maybe scrolling on it right now. It’s social media. This week, Steph and Melissa discuss the pros and cons of “the sosh” and dive deep into the psychology of posting. Plus, we answer the perpetual question — Does Stephanie have TikTok on her phone today?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Top eight was like you had your friends like listed
on your MySpace almost left side of the screen, and
it was like you could select your top eight friends
were and like that was like a social status moment,
like if you.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Were in somebody's top eight.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I hated garbage, absolutely unhinged, Like why were we doing this?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It was unhinged? Better More, a little more better.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending
to have it all together and embrace the journey of
becoming a little more better every.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Day, or at least trying to. That's Stephanie Beatrice. And
that's Melissa. And that's to you. Who are you?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's Melissa. I could be anyone you want me to be, stef.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Do you want me to be?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Starting off real strong? You guys?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Starting off real strong? Uh, that's most of a marrow.
You may know her from television, film and.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Voiceovers, or you may not.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And it's okay, but today she's co hosting this podcast
with me.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You probably do otherwise. Why are you listening to us
right now? That's true?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You have a point.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Anyway, Welcome back, you guys. Welcome back. Hey doing friend?
How's it going? Man? I'm I'm on, I'm I'm you're
going through it ruggling.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I got sick last week. I went to a concert
finished Twisted Metal. We flew back home to LA then
I flew back to Toronto to go to the Casey
Musgraves concert. The concert was beautiful. Flying back to Toronto
a mistake. I got very sick and I've kind of
been sick ever since. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I also invited my entire cast to Twisted Metal to
come to my house. Really good pizza, pool party. Oh no,
Why did I do that?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
When I do that, I feel like that happens to
me so much, where I make a plan in advance
and then the plan comes and I go, oh no,
but not today.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Why did I do that? Anyway, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I am doing pretty good. I am in Atlanta. We
just started Gross Point Guarden Society. We're first week down.
It's been going great. It's been going really smooth. It's
like shockingly smooth for the beginning of a new show.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Don't curse yourself here. I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Knock on all the wood, knock on all the wood.
It's going to continue. It's going to continue. The crew
is really great. But yeah, I miss my family. I
have one more week. You know. For me, the two
week mark is always like when I really start going crazy.
So I feel like I just have to like keep
myself busy, put my head down, and like get through
this week, like this will be the week to just
(02:57):
get through. Anything you've been doing lately that's a little
more better, or you're just trying to you're treading water.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm a survivor. I'm not gonna give up. I'm gonna
make it. I'm gonna work harder. I think the thing
that is that I'm doing that's more better is that
I am going to take the month off December.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I am not good for the strata.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Like I did tell my agents, I was like, yop,
I didn't and I got it anywhere and.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They were like, okay, sure for you. There's this like thing.
Did you want to do this thing though? And I
was like nope, so good for you. I'm really looking
forward to it. I've never done that before. That's hard
to do, and that's you've never done it and you've
never ever heard it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
You're taking care of yourself, You're prioritizing yourself. You're not
gonna regret it. You're gonna be so happy you did it.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
She's only going to be three years old once. Exactly.
Take advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes, seize the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I'm going to watch a lot of movies, eat a
lot of food, cuddle and a lot of holiday stuff
with Ras.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I want to like cuddle, cuddle, cuddle, cuddle, puddle
with her. She already asked to watch the other day.
I was like, ha haaa success.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I know as a parent, it's already like the wheels
are in motion, baby, Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I love that more better. On today's episode, we're talking
about social media.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So you know the SOSI the so just social includes
all all of the things on the Internet that are like.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Community, group building areas. Blah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean it is that, but it isn't. Starting with
back in the day Facebook, Then there was MySpace, then
there was Twitter, now x things like TikTok and Instagram
and wherever you exist on the Internet. That is like
for social stuff, which can become other stuff too, but
(05:02):
that's generally what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, So what's your question to start off with, is
is TikTok on your phone right now?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Dariel, it absolutely? Is it? Absolutely? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes, because I Home Shopping Network actually asked me to
do this really cool thing where they were like do
you want They were like, do you want to give
us like your Christmas shopping list, like we can help
you choose stuff from the website.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I was like, no, I've already got things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You were like, it's like I'm already shopping on home
Jopping Network for my Christmas presents.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Like like home Shopping Network, I've got this.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You have come to do literally like they were like,
do you need help with your list? I was like no,
I already have things in my cart.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So I had to also post about that because I
wanted people to like watch when I was going to
be live and stuff, so we had to Yeah, I
think I see download TikTok.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm putting it on my phone and was I on
it last night? I was apparently.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
There's some drama that I couldn't figure out a jewelry talk.
There's some stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What Yeah, I don't know what's happening. What else? Oh,
I'm behind on this trend of do you remember that
song that but didn't have to cut me? Remember that song? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
uh huh. There's this fantastic trend where people are like.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Stop editing it and like doing their own dance. I'll
send you a couple. It's a freaking hilarious. I went
down a real I was in it last night. I
was in my TikTok tornado. I was in the tornado.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I love it too. I'm gonna take it off my phone.
It's not good for my brain. It's not good for
my brain. But today it's on there. But today, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're just we're getting a little hits right now. It's
all good.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I ever went to social media.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It was like I literally remember posting on Instagram for
the first time and being there, wonder.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
If anyone will ever see it? Like, I wonder if
people will see this? I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, I was like posting back backstage pictures of the
play and stuff, and like one of the guys in
the play was like, are you sure.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You should post that? I was like, no one's gonna
see it, No one even uses this thing. No, Yeah,
you remember was Instagram?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Was Instagram the first like kind of social media thing
you were on.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think it was that in Twitter.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Honestly, I got on both of them because of Brooklyn
nine nine because we were we had been picked up
for the first season, and I was like, I guess
I should have a social media presence.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Actors seemed to do that, So I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I got on Twitter because of Brooklyn nine nine. As
soon as we got picked up. It was actually my
husband David.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He goes, you.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Should get on Twitter and make sure you get your
name because remember, like that would be a thing, like
people would steal your name.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yes, and so he was.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Like, while you can still get like at Melissa Fumero.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, like this is dumb.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I'm not gonna go what am I gonna do on Twitter?
And he was like, just just do it, just set
it up, and then he was totally right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
He was right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I wish I was jumped on it earlier because like
people in the very very beginning were you know, there's
like the girl that has like at Stephanie has like
a gajillion followers.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, I wish I had early on, you know.
And then there was like that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Thing where you could buy back your name from people
and stuff, which is like, oh, I don't under the
table styles. Yeah, people hang like a lot of money,
so that I mean, listen, this is cesspool.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
We're getting in here, you guys right into this quick
quick fire. Were you on MySpace? Yes? Were you on
friends Her?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Were on Friendster?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Were you on live journal?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Were you on four Square? I don't even know what
four square is.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Periscope. I think that was like where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like, oh, I kind of remember that way for like
a second show your location with everybody right, which were
still so weird to me, you know what.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I loved and I used to stalk I think I
might have one somewhere. Tumblr. Oh yeah, I think I
was on Tumblr. It was sort of like, wasn't it
this was gonna say? It was kind of like Pinterest, right, Yeah.
I just remember like like.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
People would make like their Tumblr like it was like yes,
and they were like and like, yeah, I liked live journal.
I liked reading people's live journals because it was really
like a blog without having to have a hosting space.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
For a blog. I love, I love a blog. What
do you like blogs about today?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So we keep calling it because because when we were
on Brooklyn, Uh, sometimes we would take pictures, you know,
like back backstage or like when we weren't shooting or
someth thing, and if Andy was in them, he would
have to approve them, and then he'd be like, no Sosh, Nosh.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
No Sosh, no Sosh.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Where have you saw someone taking a video or a
picture during like an important episode or or a secret
guest star we had?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Someone would always yell out no Sosh, no so yeah no,
so yeah Sosh. That's why we call it. What is
my relationship with Sosh?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I feel like I have a hate love relationship with Sosh.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Starting nice, hate out the game, love it, I hate
well love for us.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It's also like, you know, I think back in the day,
I loved social media. I loved being on friends to
I thought my Space was kind of corny. I loved
early days of Facebook. No, I like I was on it,
and like I think I just always felt like I
wasn't cool enough for MySpace, Like it felt like cool
people were on.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
My and I was like, I don't know how to
make my MySpace.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, I always felt pressure lightly it should be it should.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Be cool people.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh my god, No, I know, I was like everyone,
but like, you're like next to my friggin shower curtain
in my bathroom people always.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like, but I was like that first one to have
like a backdrop and you.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Could add music and like it was like a yeah,
it was a whole thing, and I children pressure for
the children who weren't alive.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Then Top eight was like you had your.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Friends like listed on your MySpace almost left side of
the screen, and it was like you could select to
your top eight friends were and like that was like
a social status moment.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Like if you were in somebody's top.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Eight was absolutely absolutely garbage, Like why were we doing this?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It was unhed why Yeah, But I loved it in
the beginning because I could reconnect more easily with family
member with you know, because I have family in Florida,
I've got family in New York and at the time,
I think I was living in New York when all
this stuff came out, so like, you know, keeping up
with my Jersey friends and like, I really liked it
(12:12):
for that reason. And then as I started to do
more theater, and then it became about, you know, people
I would meet from other places that I had worked
with that I could keep in touch with them more
easily and see what shows they were doing and so
or after college and so and so would book a
cruise ship or a show regional theater job and you
could kind of they post pictures, and I thought this
(12:34):
is so amazing because like you don't just like lose
people anymore, right, I can really stay connected with people
who meant something to you in a moment and then
life happens and you move away and before social media
just like would never see them again.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And there's something easier about like, you know, obviously we
can get people's phone numbers and we can text them
or call them, but there's so much work. It's so
but it's and it's also so like fun to see
somebody's like scrap book of like what's happening in your
life right now? Like I'll want to look through your
scrap book, like i'm'n look through your little photo album
and see like oh you went to.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
This county fair, like oh ye're in Jamaica, or like
oh you had a baby, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The stepness of it is kind of like a cool
element of it. I think the thing that is really
hard for me and the thing that I'm striving to
get more better at is like the Chelsea pretty told.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Me about this phrase, and I've never forgotten it the.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Compare and despair and like, yes, that is the hardest
part of social for me. Like, I currently do not
have Instagram on my phone.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Uh it's my I'm very lucky.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
My husband was a social media manager for other companies
and stuff, and so he manages my social media and
once in a while he'll be like, you need to
look through your messages, and I'll go through my messages
and talk to answer people back and stuff. But like,
I'm not on Instagram looking because because it makes me
feel less than parent despair.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, it makes me feel less. Then I look around
and I'm just like, oh, I can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
More.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I feel like in the early days of social media,
it was more of the scrap booking what we were
just talking about, if anything, people maybe sometimes overshared, but
more in a genuine way, you know. And then I
feel like, especially with Instagram, when Instagram came on the scene,
people started filtering themselves. People started becoming more self aware
(14:44):
slash self conscious about their life and how it looks
and what they want to present to people and what
they don't, and that created this like false ecosystem of
what people's how people are really living their lives and yeah,
and then it just created all of this pressure on everyone,
(15:07):
whether it's like is your vacation fabulous enough? Is your
you know what?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I mean, what are you wearing? How are you parenting?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Like the onslaught of like fucking opinions and visuals that
are so curated. It's just become this different thing. And
that's where my my hate comes in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I don't. I can't because I feel that same thing.
I mean, I know, I'm like a fucking I'm so
hooked on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I can't doom scroll a lot, and I know it's
not good.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I will say my habit and I has increased a
lot since not having it on my phone, Like TikTok
is wimping because it's hilarious and you know, as the
kids say, I built my for you page brick by brick,
and it is dogs and people scaring each other, fashion
of advice and people dancing too.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
But didn't that cut me out?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, like it is so funny to me as
opposed to Instagram, where I'm like, you know, sometimes I'm
seeing people that I h you know, I know really well,
and I'm comparing myself to them or like why didn't
I get invited to that event? Or like how come
I'm not going to that party? Or like oh no,
like they all want to dinner without me, you know.
(16:25):
I mean I have a friend to a new friend
who was like almost in tears telling.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Me about uh she was.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We were like both of us were out of town
on jobs, and she was like, I saw this friend
of mine and another friend of mine and they were
at dinner together, and I thought they didn't even really
like each other.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And she was like.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Almost in tears talking about it, and I was just like, girl,
like get off of there. Stop looking at people's stories,
Like just stop. You know that the heart of the
flip side of that is like, well, I want to
see what my friends are doing. I want to keep up,
you know, Like for me, a lot of times I'll
get I'll have friends that are like mad at me
because it's been you know, two months since I've texted them,
(17:04):
and suddenly I'm like, hey, what's up, what's going on?
And they're like, well, if you looked at my stories,
and I'm like I don't not.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Oh my god, wait wait wait anyone being mad at
you for not looking at their stories to keep.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's just the initiation.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's just the initial well, I mean like it is
though it is this like because it is this social thing,
like you just assume that, like, well, your friends are
all looking at the at the stuff that you're like,
it's like a mass message to all your friends, right, so,
like I do have one friend that I had to Yeah,
but the assumption that your friends are all actively making
(17:41):
sure to check on your stories and see them, I
don't know. I have some beef with that that.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I mean, it's kind I don't think we should normalize that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I don't think we should normalize that. No, Okay, we
have differing opinion, but this is good. This is good.
This is good.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think it's slightly normal because you're like putting on
a newsletter about your life and then if you don't
hear from your friend from like multiple months because they're
also busy, and then they're like, hey, how are you,
And You're like, I went through this really big thing,
and like I've been talking about it a lot on
my stories.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm like, I don't know where you've been.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It does necessitize where my joy I would I would
if someone if I went through a big thing that
I was posting about, and then I don't know why
my voice starts. I start getting like all jersey and
then passionate because I'm mad. And then I have a friend,
you know, who haven't talked to you in a while,
be like, hey, how are you. I would immediately be like, oh,
(18:33):
they're probably not on social, like they're probably just they
haven't seen they don't know, and I'd be like, oh, actually,
like this this has been going on, Like, I would
just jump right into it. I wouldn't be personally offended
that they didn't see my fucking stories.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
The personal offense only last I'm judging your person's okay.
Once I explained and I remind I have to remind
people too. I'll be like, I'm not on social that
you're going on and then they'll send me like stream
or recordings of their stories and stuff, and it's really fun.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's really fun because I'm like, oh, look at that,
you know, like yeah, yeah, yes, drama, that's fun. Yeah.
Because it's just saying they could get the.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Could skip the offended part, they could skip the offend
they can skip the offendive part.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
The thing that's the thing that happens with social is
like social. The thing that happens with with it is like,
you know, you're looking at your friends stories and then
all of a sudden you're looking at like someone who,
like you had to friend because of a work situation
when everyone was friending each other and you don't really
care and like them.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And like suddenly you're like, oh, no, I'm looking at
your house renovation. No, why am I deep diving into
your life now? Like that? I know too much? I
know too much.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I know too much, and I don't want to be here.
I don't want to be here so real, I don't
know what what are what I guess? Like A good
thing to ask is like when you are on the Instagram,
what is some of your is it?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Is it all friends? Or like? Do you have social
accounts that like and follow? And why?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh, good question. It's a mix.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I've also tried to curate my Instagram for like what
I see because while I was huh.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Brick by brick, that's what the kids say, oh brick.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, it's harder to do on on Instagram. But I
was at one point like following like too many news
accounts and I had to Oopsie had to re arrange
that because I was like, this is very very bad
for my mentals. So, uh, you know, I like more
(20:39):
funny accounts friends, design things. I love when Architectural Digest
pops up on my feet.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'm like, yes, oh my god, I know. The walking
tours are.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So funny because you can just tell that they're stage,
like nobody lives like oh and.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I love by the yes. But I love when.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
The actor celebrity or whoever it is, like points it out,
like I forget who it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Was, Dakota Dakota Dakota with like the line that I
just like have a bowl full of lines like that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
She was like, I'm allergic to them, Like yeah, so hilarious.
Or you know, you'll just see someone be like and
here's a beautiful flora arrangement that appeared here this morning.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You know, I'm like, yeah, just call out the curation.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But yeah, I follow a lot of like design accounts
because they're really pretty to look at. Oh, an artist too.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I really love following visual.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Artists on Instagram and like different galleries and stuff, so
I try to Yeah, so that's a more pleasant experience.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
We decide note we should do a more better episode
of getting better at like art and art appreciation, because
I really feel like you have an inner art artist,
not critic, but like art appreciative person in there, and
I want to learn more from that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think we should do that. That'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I think, oh, thanks, Oh gosh, I would feel like
I would have to study up because no, you know,
like I feel like I know so little, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I uh so.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And then you know, there's a part of like social
media that like we have to do it for our jobs,
and it's kind of part of the gig. It's expected.
It sometimes helps us get jobs. It sometimes is another
source of revenue and income for us, which saved me
during the pandemic during the strike when I wasn't making
any money as an actor and I got a couple
(22:38):
of things on social media that were you know, nice paychecks.
It just helped us in that moment, in those grateful
for yours. I'm so grateful for that, my god, pandemic,
Thank you, Butterfinger. But and yeah, so it's it's you know,
(23:00):
so it's like kind of a job. Also, it's like
a part time job, you know, making sure our social
media is like active and interesting and you know, promoting
the things we want people to know about also giving
like little parts of ourselves. So it's like I feel
like we have a different relationship with it maybe than
most people.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, there's like an element of of well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know, that's a good, really good question because like nowadays,
so many people are actually getting audiences and true creating
their own like success through social media. You know, whether
it's like family that is, like talking about their parenting
struggles and like suddenly you know, like blogging with our kid,
(23:51):
which you know is its own thing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But like, yeah, or I just saw this video this.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I just saw this video this morning of this guy
who quit his court, his job and Corporate America and
then opened a restaurant and opened two more, but like
the two of them failed, and then he tried to
go back to Corporate America and couldn't get a job.
And then he decided they were like burning through their
savings and he decided, well, I'll just cook all of
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our meals and then he just recorded them.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
He's like this amazing cook.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And gained a huge following and he was like and
during all this his wife had a baby, and my god, stood, yeah,
and so his videos are really sweet. He's like, you know,
pulling up carts up to his wife as she's like
holding their new boarn and like showing everything he made
for her, and it's like very wholesome and he yeah,
and now he and then you know, sponsors started coming
(24:45):
in and he started making money from it, and they're
like getting back on their feet, and I was like,
that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
There's a chef, the hot chef that I watch on TikTok.
I think his name, I think his handle is sad Boppy,
and he's like very fun to watch, and I think
he's like a cookbook coming out, you know, Like there
are people, there are many more people that are actually
dealing with social media in the way that we have
to deal with it as if it's part social and
(25:23):
part business venture. And I think like that is an
additional amount of pressure because it's like, oh, how do
I monetize this, you know, like sharing about my life?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Like it's a lot of a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's a lot and I think the people that do
it right are, like you just said, like the people
that use it as a stepping stone, you know what
I mean that then build up to something else because
you never know when the audience is going to get
tired of you, you know, and like.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Just saying maybe they'll never get tired of you.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Out buddy, But I feel like it's stay funny, say.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
No, I just think it's such a crowded market that,
like you said, like that chef making a cookbook to
me is so smart. That's like such a smart way
to do it. It's like the same way you and
I have like tried to get into directing, producing and
voiceover and like other things, right, and keep what else
can we do? How do we build on this and
not just like do the one thing? You know, that's
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all I was trying to say, No, that's real.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's real. I knew what you meant. I knew what
you meant. I think it's like there.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Are positive a lot of positive I mean, I'm talking
about like a lot of negative things, but now we're
talking about a positive thing, right. Like another thing that
I think is really positive about my kid another my
kid is off waving to me on the side. Another
thing that I think is really positive about social media
is like I think it's a way to connect with
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people that are unlike you. That yeah, can offer you
a glimpse into their lives that you might not get
in a different kind in a world that was smaller, right,
Like it's there's a lot of like learning and education
that you can get off of social I mean without
I'll be very honest, without TikTok, I would not be
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as patient as I am with my chiddler because there's
all these like child psychiatrists and psychologists and like, you know,
people that are helping.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It, like even like miss Rachel, I mean people like.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That, like on social on the internet that are helping
you with your kid, that are like going like you
actually have a lot more patients than you think you know,
or you're like guiding me toward these like hard conversations
or whatever in different ways. Like in that way, the
connectivity of social media is very very cool.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And also like there's a.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Lot of creativity there. I mean, what is that show
English Teacher that is a new comedy that I think
is hilarious and he started basically on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
There's a ton of.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
People whose creativity has been discovered through TikTok and through
other social media. It's like a connects you to your
audience in a way that like, I mean, especially for people, like,
I mean, I just saw yesterday I'm doing press with
Ted Danson for the show that we have coming out,
(28:18):
and like he's mesmerized by social media partially because it
gives you access to people that like your work and
that will talk to you about it like one on one,
And it's so cool.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That part is so charming.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, Like, I mean, I can't you know, I'm sure
you have many a story of people reaching out to
you and being like, I never.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Saw myself on TV until you. I love the character
you play. I appreciate your work, I appreciate what you
put out in the world, and like none of that
would happen without the connectivity of social media. Like it's
quite cool in that way.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
It has Yeah, it has its pluses, It has its plus,
it has its pluses, it has its pluses. Do you
like post or like, how do you I feel like,
I'm I feel like you're really good at social media? Honey,
say I know you're also married to Brad. Have a
social manage it, Brad? Yes, he is the one I
(29:13):
approve of all posts. I approve of all most of
the time I write to.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Hire Brad you might need to, might need harem Like that's.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
What he used to do for people. I mean, he
helped build a lot of brands and stuff. And like
he will write, he'll write a caption and I'll be like, no,
that's not funny. I need to rewrite that caption, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Or like he'll say, we're gonna post this thing, Uh,
what's the caption?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And then I'll write it. And I look at comments
a lot because he'll share them with me, especially like
the really positive ones. But it's helpful to have somebody
screen that stuff for you because sometimes people can be
really ugly too, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, And I don't need to. I mean, in the
very big.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I do get satisfaction from like deleting negative comments and
or being like mute.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I love that block block and the block block block
all day long.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Mm hmm. Okay, Nerd time, I thought this was really interesting. Yeah,
this is from okay, hold on, uh, the risks versus
a reward, the social dilemma, social media and your mental health.
Like it or not, using social media can cause anxiety, depression,
and other health challenges. I know we've all heard this, right,
(30:26):
we know, I know we've all heard it. But the
thing that we got to I think like that we
got to remember is that social is built to provide you.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
A dopamine hit.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like someone like my photo, someone responded to me, how
many likes did I get? You know, it's that like
it's that sort of like boo, that little feeling of like,
oh a little a little boo, a little something right.
And the problem with engaging I think personally, I think
engaging too much with that is that you forget that
(30:59):
you can find those dopamine hits, like in your life.
You know, you can find them from something that you
I mean, I'm just thinking about myself. It's like, oh,
I'm proud of myself. Oh I'm grateful. Oh, you know,
like I just think it's it can be a really
scary way to train your brain into thinking that that's
the only way to get that hit of dopamine. And
(31:24):
that's the that's the that's a crummy part of it.
And it's like there's studies you guys, like World Psychiatry
did this study and like research shows that heavy social
media uses linked with memory deficits.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Surprise, surprise, this one was crazy to me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It basically said that if you if you post a
story or a picture of event, like, you're less likely
to really remember it in your mind's eye. That is
so because your brain is like, no, it's stored somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
That is such a rough, rough, rough thing.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Like And as someone who has a terrible memory, this
one hit me hard because but you know what, I
realize I've always had a bad memory. And I realized
when I was very little, I took a lot of
photos and I kept a lot of photo albums. Oh,
because that's how I remembered trips. Like my mom, it
blows her mind. She'll be like, remember when we went
(32:25):
to Dominican Republic when you were eight and we did this?
And I'm like no, oh, And she's like, how do
you not remember? And I'm like, because I don't, Oh
my god. But if I took a picture of it,
if it's in a photo album, you remember, I probably
remember it well because then you can leaf through it, right.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Like. The other weird thing about social is that it's
in this like weird. I mean, we talked about it
a little bit, but it's in like a photo album
in the ether somewhere that like, yes, where is it?
It's not like a tangible. You know, sometimes I worry
about that, like you know, when the grid ud all
comes down, there's no like I don't have a book
of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's just right, am I gonna be like what the
fuck did I do?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
And what I do?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? What what happened?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know, like I don't be any one day and
being like I don't remember my twenties and thirty at all.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Everybody has that one friend that I'm just thinking about, like,
oh well, not name names, but I'm just thinking about
like like, for example, like what that last time that
we went to Disneyland together? And like there are some
people that just live the experience of being at Disneyland
and like having the fun, and there's some people that
have to document every single thing that is happening. Yeah,
(33:36):
And it's like while they're documenting, yes, it looks like
they're having so much fun and they're sharing it with
all their followers and stuff, but like when.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You're with the person, they're checked out. They're like not
really with you.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I remember so much of that day because I did
take a single photo or the only pay my sister
cry laughing on Space Mountain that's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
We'll put that up on the Instagram in such a
good photo.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh my god, it's so fun and a total laugh
attack mountain crying, laughing.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But that's the only picture we have because because we
are having so much fun.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
We're having so much fun. Oh yeah, and you and
I took one picture and rides of the Resistance. Yeah,
and then the only video I took was the fireworks
because your voice was ringing out. I was like, oh,
I was like, I want a video of this.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
But I do remember.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I try to remember that too when it comes to
like kid stuff, yeah, like kid performances and stuff. Sometimes
David and I will like try to take turns, like Okay,
you take the video this time, I'll take it next time.
And even if I'm taking a video, I'll try to
like not watch it through the phone, do you know
what I mean. Like I'll try to like set up
(34:51):
the frame and just hold it really really still and
then watch with my own eyes because I want to
be in the experience. I also don't want my kids
to look over at me and I'm like looking at
him through through a screen, making eye.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Contact with him.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's hard, but like, and sometimes the video comes out
like shit, And sometimes I just don't even take a video,
Like sometimes I just watch the pharments, watch the song
like be there. But you know it's hard because you know,
grandparents want to like see, I know everybody wants.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
To go and yeah you know, yeah, yeah, more better. Okay,
So I guess what are your big takeaways from today?
I think I know mine go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
That while there are we have to look for the
beautiful positives and social media to keep ourselves sane, and
we also have to recognize all of the detrimental things
that it can bring into our mentals in our life. Yeah,
and so I think having boundaries. I love that you
(36:03):
take social media off your phone. I think I should
maybe start that practice.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Girl, I double dog.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Dare you to take Instagram off your phone for like
the next three days and see how much you reach
for your phone to look at it, because like, yeah,
it's crazy, it's craz easy. Yeah, no, you're right, Yeah,
just delete the apps just like it'll be there. So yeah,
no social yourself, no socialself. What's your takeaway? I think
(36:29):
that mine is like I'm doing the right thing for myself.
By I mean, I know everybody's in front of me,
like by going on and off and stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But like, I think it's good for me. I think
it's good for me not to have, you know, I
think it's I think you've.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Found like a good balance or you're finding a good balance. Yeah,
you let yourself indulge and like have fun with it,
and then you're like and you take a break.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yes, And I encourage you know, I encourage our community
to like take it off sometimes, because like it is
wild how much you reach for it, especially when you're lonely,
especially when you're by yourself.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Like you know, I'm not saying you have to like
text a friend, but it is a good thing to do.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
It's like but also just like be by yourself, you know,
like just hang out and chill and sit for a
minute and like don't look at everybody else's life, disconnect,
like focus on other stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's it's good for you. Yeah, discover what those dopamine
hits are for you and realize yeah baby boom boom
boo ooh flower bo you know, yeah, Okay, I feel
a little more better.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I feel like I'm doing the right thing by having
Also the bit is hilarious of people being like do
you have TikTok on your phone.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
It truly is. I enjoy it. So I enjoy a
good bit. I enjoy a good bit. I feel a
little more better about it. Yeah, I feel more better too.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Good, Yeah, okay, cool, this is good. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I can't wait to check in with you tomorrow and
see if you took. If you do, you can do it.
Just start with twenty four hours. You can do it.
I want to do it. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Guys, we're taking a little break for the holidays, taking
some a little bit of rest, so relax, say back
even sillier, stupider New Year. But we want to hear
from you while we're taking our little restspit, so please
keep emailing us and keep sending us MS, and we
(38:26):
love a voice note about what you guys want to
hear on the pod.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
You can email us at Morebetter Pod at gmail dot com, or.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You can hit us up on the DMS. Just slide
slide right in there, slide right in there. Yeah, Happy holidays,
Happy holidays. See you next time, guys, See you next time.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
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at that you want us to talk about in a
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Speaker 2 (38:51):
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(39:17):
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Speaker 2 (39:38):
See you next week, Saga Bye,
Top eight was like you had your friends like listed
on your MySpace almost left side of the screen, and
it was like you could select your top eight friends
were and like that was like a social status moment,
like if you.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Were in somebody's top eight.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I hated garbage, absolutely unhinged, Like why were we doing this?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It was unhinged? Better More, a little more better.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending
to have it all together and embrace the journey of
becoming a little more better every.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Day, or at least trying to. That's Stephanie Beatrice. And
that's Melissa. And that's to you. Who are you?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's Melissa. I could be anyone you want me to be, stef.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Do you want me to be?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Starting off real strong? You guys?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Starting off real strong? Uh, that's most of a marrow.
You may know her from television, film and.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Voiceovers, or you may not.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And it's okay, but today she's co hosting this podcast
with me.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You probably do otherwise. Why are you listening to us
right now? That's true?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You have a point.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Anyway, Welcome back, you guys. Welcome back. Hey doing friend?
How's it going? Man? I'm I'm on, I'm I'm you're
going through it ruggling.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I got sick last week. I went to a concert
finished Twisted Metal. We flew back home to LA then
I flew back to Toronto to go to the Casey
Musgraves concert. The concert was beautiful. Flying back to Toronto
a mistake. I got very sick and I've kind of
been sick ever since. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I also invited my entire cast to Twisted Metal to
come to my house. Really good pizza, pool party. Oh no,
Why did I do that?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
When I do that, I feel like that happens to
me so much, where I make a plan in advance
and then the plan comes and I go, oh no,
but not today.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Why did I do that? Anyway, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I am doing pretty good. I am in Atlanta. We
just started Gross Point Guarden Society. We're first week down.
It's been going great. It's been going really smooth. It's
like shockingly smooth for the beginning of a new show.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Don't curse yourself here. I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Knock on all the wood, knock on all the wood.
It's going to continue. It's going to continue. The crew
is really great. But yeah, I miss my family. I
have one more week. You know. For me, the two
week mark is always like when I really start going crazy.
So I feel like I just have to like keep
myself busy, put my head down, and like get through
this week, like this will be the week to just
(02:57):
get through. Anything you've been doing lately that's a little
more better, or you're just trying to you're treading water.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm a survivor. I'm not gonna give up. I'm gonna
make it. I'm gonna work harder. I think the thing
that is that I'm doing that's more better is that
I am going to take the month off December.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I am not good for the strata.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Like I did tell my agents, I was like, yop,
I didn't and I got it anywhere and.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They were like, okay, sure for you. There's this like thing.
Did you want to do this thing though? And I
was like nope, so good for you. I'm really looking
forward to it. I've never done that before. That's hard
to do, and that's you've never done it and you've
never ever heard it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
You're taking care of yourself, You're prioritizing yourself. You're not
gonna regret it. You're gonna be so happy you did it.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
She's only going to be three years old once. Exactly.
Take advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes, seize the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I'm going to watch a lot of movies, eat a
lot of food, cuddle and a lot of holiday stuff
with Ras.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I want to like cuddle, cuddle, cuddle, cuddle, puddle
with her. She already asked to watch the other day.
I was like, ha haaa success.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I know as a parent, it's already like the wheels
are in motion, baby, Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I love that more better. On today's episode, we're talking
about social media.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So you know the SOSI the so just social includes
all all of the things on the Internet that are like.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Community, group building areas. Blah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean it is that, but it isn't. Starting with
back in the day Facebook, Then there was MySpace, then
there was Twitter, now x things like TikTok and Instagram
and wherever you exist on the Internet. That is like
for social stuff, which can become other stuff too, but
(05:02):
that's generally what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, So what's your question to start off with, is
is TikTok on your phone right now?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Dariel, it absolutely? Is it? Absolutely? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes, because I Home Shopping Network actually asked me to
do this really cool thing where they were like do
you want They were like, do you want to give
us like your Christmas shopping list, like we can help
you choose stuff from the website.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I was like, no, I've already got things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You were like, it's like I'm already shopping on home
Jopping Network for my Christmas presents.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Like like home Shopping Network, I've got this.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You have come to do literally like they were like,
do you need help with your list? I was like no,
I already have things in my cart.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So I had to also post about that because I
wanted people to like watch when I was going to
be live and stuff, so we had to Yeah, I
think I see download TikTok.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm putting it on my phone and was I on
it last night? I was apparently.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
There's some drama that I couldn't figure out a jewelry talk.
There's some stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What Yeah, I don't know what's happening. What else? Oh,
I'm behind on this trend of do you remember that
song that but didn't have to cut me? Remember that song? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
uh huh. There's this fantastic trend where people are like.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Stop editing it and like doing their own dance. I'll
send you a couple. It's a freaking hilarious. I went
down a real I was in it last night. I
was in my TikTok tornado. I was in the tornado.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I love it too. I'm gonna take it off my phone.
It's not good for my brain. It's not good for
my brain. But today it's on there. But today, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're just we're getting a little hits right now. It's
all good.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I ever went to social media.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It was like I literally remember posting on Instagram for
the first time and being there, wonder.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
If anyone will ever see it? Like, I wonder if
people will see this? I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, I was like posting back backstage pictures of the
play and stuff, and like one of the guys in
the play was like, are you sure.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You should post that? I was like, no one's gonna
see it, No one even uses this thing. No, Yeah,
you remember was Instagram?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Was Instagram the first like kind of social media thing
you were on.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think it was that in Twitter.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Honestly, I got on both of them because of Brooklyn
nine nine because we were we had been picked up
for the first season, and I was like, I guess
I should have a social media presence.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Actors seemed to do that, So I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I got on Twitter because of Brooklyn nine nine. As
soon as we got picked up. It was actually my
husband David.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He goes, you.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Should get on Twitter and make sure you get your
name because remember, like that would be a thing, like
people would steal your name.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yes, and so he was.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Like, while you can still get like at Melissa Fumero.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, like this is dumb.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I'm not gonna go what am I gonna do on Twitter?
And he was like, just just do it, just set
it up, and then he was totally right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
He was right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I wish I was jumped on it earlier because like
people in the very very beginning were you know, there's
like the girl that has like at Stephanie has like
a gajillion followers.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, I wish I had early on, you know.
And then there was like that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Thing where you could buy back your name from people
and stuff, which is like, oh, I don't under the
table styles. Yeah, people hang like a lot of money,
so that I mean, listen, this is cesspool.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
We're getting in here, you guys right into this quick
quick fire. Were you on MySpace? Yes? Were you on
friends Her?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Were on Friendster?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Were you on live journal?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Were you on four Square? I don't even know what
four square is.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Periscope. I think that was like where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like, oh, I kind of remember that way for like
a second show your location with everybody right, which were
still so weird to me, you know what.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I loved and I used to stalk I think I
might have one somewhere. Tumblr. Oh yeah, I think I
was on Tumblr. It was sort of like, wasn't it
this was gonna say? It was kind of like Pinterest, right, Yeah.
I just remember like like.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
People would make like their Tumblr like it was like yes,
and they were like and like, yeah, I liked live journal.
I liked reading people's live journals because it was really
like a blog without having to have a hosting space.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
For a blog. I love, I love a blog. What
do you like blogs about today?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So we keep calling it because because when we were
on Brooklyn, Uh, sometimes we would take pictures, you know,
like back backstage or like when we weren't shooting or
someth thing, and if Andy was in them, he would
have to approve them, and then he'd be like, no Sosh, Nosh.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
No Sosh, no Sosh.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Where have you saw someone taking a video or a
picture during like an important episode or or a secret
guest star we had?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Someone would always yell out no Sosh, no so yeah no,
so yeah Sosh. That's why we call it. What is
my relationship with Sosh?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I feel like I have a hate love relationship with Sosh.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Starting nice, hate out the game, love it, I hate
well love for us.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It's also like, you know, I think back in the day,
I loved social media. I loved being on friends to
I thought my Space was kind of corny. I loved
early days of Facebook. No, I like I was on it,
and like I think I just always felt like I
wasn't cool enough for MySpace, Like it felt like cool
people were on.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
My and I was like, I don't know how to
make my MySpace.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, I always felt pressure lightly it should be it should.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Be cool people.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh my god, No, I know, I was like everyone,
but like, you're like next to my friggin shower curtain
in my bathroom people always.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like, but I was like that first one to have
like a backdrop and you.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Could add music and like it was like a yeah,
it was a whole thing, and I children pressure for
the children who weren't alive.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Then Top eight was like you had your.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Friends like listed on your MySpace almost left side of
the screen, and it was like you could select to
your top eight friends were and like that was like
a social status moment.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Like if you were in somebody's top.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Eight was absolutely absolutely garbage, Like why were we doing this?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It was unhed why Yeah, But I loved it in
the beginning because I could reconnect more easily with family
member with you know, because I have family in Florida,
I've got family in New York and at the time,
I think I was living in New York when all
this stuff came out, so like, you know, keeping up
with my Jersey friends and like, I really liked it
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for that reason. And then as I started to do
more theater, and then it became about, you know, people
I would meet from other places that I had worked
with that I could keep in touch with them more
easily and see what shows they were doing and so
or after college and so and so would book a
cruise ship or a show regional theater job and you
could kind of they post pictures, and I thought this
(12:34):
is so amazing because like you don't just like lose
people anymore, right, I can really stay connected with people
who meant something to you in a moment and then
life happens and you move away and before social media
just like would never see them again.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And there's something easier about like, you know, obviously we
can get people's phone numbers and we can text them
or call them, but there's so much work. It's so
but it's and it's also so like fun to see
somebody's like scrap book of like what's happening in your
life right now? Like I'll want to look through your
scrap book, like i'm'n look through your little photo album
and see like oh you went to.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
This county fair, like oh ye're in Jamaica, or like
oh you had a baby, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The stepness of it is kind of like a cool
element of it. I think the thing that is really
hard for me and the thing that I'm striving to
get more better at is like the Chelsea pretty told.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Me about this phrase, and I've never forgotten it the.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Compare and despair and like, yes, that is the hardest
part of social for me. Like, I currently do not
have Instagram on my phone.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Uh it's my I'm very lucky.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
My husband was a social media manager for other companies
and stuff, and so he manages my social media and
once in a while he'll be like, you need to
look through your messages, and I'll go through my messages
and talk to answer people back and stuff. But like,
I'm not on Instagram looking because because it makes me
feel less than parent despair.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, it makes me feel less. Then I look around
and I'm just like, oh, I can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
More.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I feel like in the early days of social media,
it was more of the scrap booking what we were
just talking about, if anything, people maybe sometimes overshared, but
more in a genuine way, you know. And then I
feel like, especially with Instagram, when Instagram came on the scene,
people started filtering themselves. People started becoming more self aware
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slash self conscious about their life and how it looks
and what they want to present to people and what
they don't, and that created this like false ecosystem of
what people's how people are really living their lives and yeah,
and then it just created all of this pressure on everyone,
(15:07):
whether it's like is your vacation fabulous enough? Is your
you know what?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I mean, what are you wearing? How are you parenting?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Like the onslaught of like fucking opinions and visuals that
are so curated. It's just become this different thing. And
that's where my my hate comes in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I don't. I can't because I feel that same thing.
I mean, I know, I'm like a fucking I'm so
hooked on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I can't doom scroll a lot, and I know it's
not good.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I will say my habit and I has increased a
lot since not having it on my phone, Like TikTok
is wimping because it's hilarious and you know, as the
kids say, I built my for you page brick by brick,
and it is dogs and people scaring each other, fashion
of advice and people dancing too.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
But didn't that cut me out?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, like it is so funny to me as
opposed to Instagram, where I'm like, you know, sometimes I'm
seeing people that I h you know, I know really well,
and I'm comparing myself to them or like why didn't
I get invited to that event? Or like how come
I'm not going to that party? Or like oh no,
like they all want to dinner without me, you know.
(16:25):
I mean I have a friend to a new friend
who was like almost in tears telling.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Me about uh she was.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We were like both of us were out of town
on jobs, and she was like, I saw this friend
of mine and another friend of mine and they were
at dinner together, and I thought they didn't even really
like each other.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And she was like.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Almost in tears talking about it, and I was just like, girl,
like get off of there. Stop looking at people's stories,
Like just stop. You know that the heart of the
flip side of that is like, well, I want to
see what my friends are doing. I want to keep up,
you know, Like for me, a lot of times I'll
get I'll have friends that are like mad at me
because it's been you know, two months since I've texted them,
(17:04):
and suddenly I'm like, hey, what's up, what's going on?
And they're like, well, if you looked at my stories,
and I'm like I don't not.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Oh my god, wait wait wait anyone being mad at
you for not looking at their stories to keep.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's just the initiation.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's just the initial well, I mean like it is
though it is this like because it is this social thing,
like you just assume that, like, well, your friends are
all looking at the at the stuff that you're like,
it's like a mass message to all your friends, right, so,
like I do have one friend that I had to Yeah,
but the assumption that your friends are all actively making
(17:41):
sure to check on your stories and see them, I
don't know. I have some beef with that that.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I mean, it's kind I don't think we should normalize that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I don't think we should normalize that. No, Okay, we
have differing opinion, but this is good. This is good.
This is good.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think it's slightly normal because you're like putting on
a newsletter about your life and then if you don't
hear from your friend from like multiple months because they're
also busy, and then they're like, hey, how are you,
And You're like, I went through this really big thing,
and like I've been talking about it a lot on
my stories.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm like, I don't know where you've been.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It does necessitize where my joy I would I would
if someone if I went through a big thing that
I was posting about, and then I don't know why
my voice starts. I start getting like all jersey and
then passionate because I'm mad. And then I have a friend,
you know, who haven't talked to you in a while,
be like, hey, how are you. I would immediately be like, oh,
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they're probably not on social, like they're probably just they
haven't seen they don't know, and I'd be like, oh, actually,
like this this has been going on, Like, I would
just jump right into it. I wouldn't be personally offended
that they didn't see my fucking stories.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
The personal offense only last I'm judging your person's okay.
Once I explained and I remind I have to remind
people too. I'll be like, I'm not on social that
you're going on and then they'll send me like stream
or recordings of their stories and stuff, and it's really fun.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's really fun because I'm like, oh, look at that,
you know, like yeah, yeah, yes, drama, that's fun. Yeah.
Because it's just saying they could get the.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Could skip the offended part, they could skip the offend
they can skip the offendive part.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
The thing that's the thing that happens with social is
like social. The thing that happens with with it is like,
you know, you're looking at your friends stories and then
all of a sudden you're looking at like someone who,
like you had to friend because of a work situation
when everyone was friending each other and you don't really
care and like them.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And like suddenly you're like, oh, no, I'm looking at
your house renovation. No, why am I deep diving into
your life now? Like that? I know too much? I
know too much.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I know too much, and I don't want to be here.
I don't want to be here so real, I don't
know what what are what I guess? Like A good
thing to ask is like when you are on the Instagram,
what is some of your is it?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Is it all friends? Or like? Do you have social
accounts that like and follow? And why?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh, good question. It's a mix.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I've also tried to curate my Instagram for like what
I see because while I was huh.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Brick by brick, that's what the kids say, oh brick.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, it's harder to do on on Instagram. But I
was at one point like following like too many news
accounts and I had to Oopsie had to re arrange
that because I was like, this is very very bad
for my mentals. So, uh, you know, I like more
(20:39):
funny accounts friends, design things. I love when Architectural Digest
pops up on my feet.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'm like, yes, oh my god, I know. The walking
tours are.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So funny because you can just tell that they're stage,
like nobody lives like oh and.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I love by the yes. But I love when.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
The actor celebrity or whoever it is, like points it out,
like I forget who it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Was, Dakota Dakota Dakota with like the line that I
just like have a bowl full of lines like that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
She was like, I'm allergic to them, Like yeah, so hilarious.
Or you know, you'll just see someone be like and
here's a beautiful flora arrangement that appeared here this morning.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You know, I'm like, yeah, just call out the curation.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But yeah, I follow a lot of like design accounts
because they're really pretty to look at. Oh, an artist too.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I really love following visual.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Artists on Instagram and like different galleries and stuff, so
I try to Yeah, so that's a more pleasant experience.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
We decide note we should do a more better episode
of getting better at like art and art appreciation, because
I really feel like you have an inner art artist,
not critic, but like art appreciative person in there, and
I want to learn more from that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think we should do that. That'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I think, oh, thanks, Oh gosh, I would feel like
I would have to study up because no, you know,
like I feel like I know so little, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I uh so.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And then you know, there's a part of like social
media that like we have to do it for our jobs,
and it's kind of part of the gig. It's expected.
It sometimes helps us get jobs. It sometimes is another
source of revenue and income for us, which saved me
during the pandemic during the strike when I wasn't making
any money as an actor and I got a couple
(22:38):
of things on social media that were you know, nice paychecks.
It just helped us in that moment, in those grateful
for yours. I'm so grateful for that, my god, pandemic,
Thank you, Butterfinger. But and yeah, so it's it's you know,
(23:00):
so it's like kind of a job. Also, it's like
a part time job, you know, making sure our social
media is like active and interesting and you know, promoting
the things we want people to know about also giving
like little parts of ourselves. So it's like I feel
like we have a different relationship with it maybe than
most people.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, there's like an element of of well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know, that's a good, really good question because like nowadays,
so many people are actually getting audiences and true creating
their own like success through social media. You know, whether
it's like family that is, like talking about their parenting
struggles and like suddenly you know, like blogging with our kid,
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which you know is its own thing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But like, yeah, or I just saw this video this.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I just saw this video this morning of this guy
who quit his court, his job and Corporate America and
then opened a restaurant and opened two more, but like
the two of them failed, and then he tried to
go back to Corporate America and couldn't get a job.
And then he decided they were like burning through their
savings and he decided, well, I'll just cook all of
(24:18):
our meals and then he just recorded them.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
He's like this amazing cook.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And gained a huge following and he was like and
during all this his wife had a baby, and my god, stood, yeah,
and so his videos are really sweet. He's like, you know,
pulling up carts up to his wife as she's like
holding their new boarn and like showing everything he made
for her, and it's like very wholesome and he yeah,
and now he and then you know, sponsors started coming
(24:45):
in and he started making money from it, and they're
like getting back on their feet, and I was like,
that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
There's a chef, the hot chef that I watch on TikTok.
I think his name, I think his handle is sad Boppy,
and he's like very fun to watch, and I think
he's like a cookbook coming out, you know, Like there
are people, there are many more people that are actually
dealing with social media in the way that we have
to deal with it as if it's part social and
(25:23):
part business venture. And I think like that is an
additional amount of pressure because it's like, oh, how do
I monetize this, you know, like sharing about my life?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Like it's a lot of a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's a lot and I think the people that do
it right are, like you just said, like the people
that use it as a stepping stone, you know what
I mean that then build up to something else because
you never know when the audience is going to get
tired of you, you know, and like.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Just saying maybe they'll never get tired of you.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Out buddy, But I feel like it's stay funny, say.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
No, I just think it's such a crowded market that,
like you said, like that chef making a cookbook to
me is so smart. That's like such a smart way
to do it. It's like the same way you and
I have like tried to get into directing, producing and
voiceover and like other things, right, and keep what else
can we do? How do we build on this and
not just like do the one thing? You know, that's
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all I was trying to say, No, that's real.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's real. I knew what you meant. I knew what
you meant. I think it's like there.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Are positive a lot of positive I mean, I'm talking
about like a lot of negative things, but now we're
talking about a positive thing, right. Like another thing that
I think is really positive about my kid another my
kid is off waving to me on the side. Another
thing that I think is really positive about social media
is like I think it's a way to connect with
(26:50):
people that are unlike you. That yeah, can offer you
a glimpse into their lives that you might not get
in a different kind in a world that was smaller, right,
Like it's there's a lot of like learning and education
that you can get off of social I mean without
I'll be very honest, without TikTok, I would not be
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as patient as I am with my chiddler because there's
all these like child psychiatrists and psychologists and like, you know,
people that are helping.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It, like even like miss Rachel, I mean people like.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That, like on social on the internet that are helping
you with your kid, that are like going like you
actually have a lot more patients than you think you know,
or you're like guiding me toward these like hard conversations
or whatever in different ways. Like in that way, the
connectivity of social media is very very cool.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And also like there's a.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Lot of creativity there. I mean, what is that show
English Teacher that is a new comedy that I think
is hilarious and he started basically on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
There's a ton of.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
People whose creativity has been discovered through TikTok and through
other social media. It's like a connects you to your
audience in a way that like, I mean, especially for people, like,
I mean, I just saw yesterday I'm doing press with
Ted Danson for the show that we have coming out,
(28:18):
and like he's mesmerized by social media partially because it
gives you access to people that like your work and
that will talk to you about it like one on one,
And it's so cool.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That part is so charming.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, Like, I mean, I can't you know, I'm sure
you have many a story of people reaching out to
you and being like, I never.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Saw myself on TV until you. I love the character
you play. I appreciate your work, I appreciate what you
put out in the world, and like none of that
would happen without the connectivity of social media. Like it's
quite cool in that way.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
It has Yeah, it has its pluses, It has its plus,
it has its pluses, it has its pluses. Do you
like post or like, how do you I feel like,
I'm I feel like you're really good at social media? Honey,
say I know you're also married to Brad. Have a
social manage it, Brad? Yes, he is the one I
(29:13):
approve of all posts. I approve of all most of
the time I write to.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Hire Brad you might need to, might need harem Like that's.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
What he used to do for people. I mean, he
helped build a lot of brands and stuff. And like
he will write, he'll write a caption and I'll be like, no,
that's not funny. I need to rewrite that caption, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Or like he'll say, we're gonna post this thing, Uh,
what's the caption?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And then I'll write it. And I look at comments
a lot because he'll share them with me, especially like
the really positive ones. But it's helpful to have somebody
screen that stuff for you because sometimes people can be
really ugly too, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, And I don't need to. I mean, in the
very big.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I do get satisfaction from like deleting negative comments and
or being like mute.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I love that block block and the block block block
all day long.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Mm hmm. Okay, Nerd time, I thought this was really interesting. Yeah,
this is from okay, hold on, uh, the risks versus
a reward, the social dilemma, social media and your mental health.
Like it or not, using social media can cause anxiety, depression,
and other health challenges. I know we've all heard this, right,
(30:26):
we know, I know we've all heard it. But the
thing that we got to I think like that we
got to remember is that social is built to provide you.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
A dopamine hit.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like someone like my photo, someone responded to me, how
many likes did I get? You know, it's that like
it's that sort of like boo, that little feeling of like,
oh a little a little boo, a little something right.
And the problem with engaging I think personally, I think
engaging too much with that is that you forget that
(30:59):
you can find those dopamine hits, like in your life.
You know, you can find them from something that you
I mean, I'm just thinking about myself. It's like, oh,
I'm proud of myself. Oh I'm grateful. Oh, you know,
like I just think it's it can be a really
scary way to train your brain into thinking that that's
the only way to get that hit of dopamine. And
(31:24):
that's the that's the that's a crummy part of it.
And it's like there's studies you guys, like World Psychiatry
did this study and like research shows that heavy social
media uses linked with memory deficits.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Surprise, surprise, this one was crazy to me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It basically said that if you if you post a
story or a picture of event, like, you're less likely
to really remember it in your mind's eye. That is
so because your brain is like, no, it's stored somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
That is such a rough, rough, rough thing.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Like And as someone who has a terrible memory, this
one hit me hard because but you know what, I
realize I've always had a bad memory. And I realized
when I was very little, I took a lot of
photos and I kept a lot of photo albums. Oh,
because that's how I remembered trips. Like my mom, it
blows her mind. She'll be like, remember when we went
(32:25):
to Dominican Republic when you were eight and we did this?
And I'm like no, oh, And she's like, how do
you not remember? And I'm like, because I don't, Oh
my god. But if I took a picture of it,
if it's in a photo album, you remember, I probably
remember it well because then you can leaf through it, right.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Like. The other weird thing about social is that it's
in this like weird. I mean, we talked about it
a little bit, but it's in like a photo album
in the ether somewhere that like, yes, where is it?
It's not like a tangible. You know, sometimes I worry
about that, like you know, when the grid ud all
comes down, there's no like I don't have a book
of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's just right, am I gonna be like what the
fuck did I do?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
And what I do?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? What what happened?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know, like I don't be any one day and
being like I don't remember my twenties and thirty at all.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Everybody has that one friend that I'm just thinking about, like,
oh well, not name names, but I'm just thinking about
like like, for example, like what that last time that
we went to Disneyland together? And like there are some
people that just live the experience of being at Disneyland
and like having the fun, and there's some people that
have to document every single thing that is happening. Yeah,
(33:36):
And it's like while they're documenting, yes, it looks like
they're having so much fun and they're sharing it with
all their followers and stuff, but like when.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You're with the person, they're checked out. They're like not
really with you.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I remember so much of that day because I did
take a single photo or the only pay my sister
cry laughing on Space Mountain that's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
We'll put that up on the Instagram in such a
good photo.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh my god, it's so fun and a total laugh
attack mountain crying, laughing.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But that's the only picture we have because because we
are having so much fun.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
We're having so much fun. Oh yeah, and you and
I took one picture and rides of the Resistance. Yeah,
and then the only video I took was the fireworks
because your voice was ringing out. I was like, oh,
I was like, I want a video of this.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
But I do remember.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I try to remember that too when it comes to
like kid stuff, yeah, like kid performances and stuff. Sometimes
David and I will like try to take turns, like Okay,
you take the video this time, I'll take it next time.
And even if I'm taking a video, I'll try to
like not watch it through the phone, do you know
what I mean. Like I'll try to like set up
(34:51):
the frame and just hold it really really still and
then watch with my own eyes because I want to
be in the experience. I also don't want my kids
to look over at me and I'm like looking at
him through through a screen, making eye.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Contact with him.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's hard, but like, and sometimes the video comes out
like shit, And sometimes I just don't even take a video,
Like sometimes I just watch the pharments, watch the song
like be there. But you know it's hard because you know,
grandparents want to like see, I know everybody wants.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
To go and yeah you know, yeah, yeah, more better. Okay,
So I guess what are your big takeaways from today?
I think I know mine go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
That while there are we have to look for the
beautiful positives and social media to keep ourselves sane, and
we also have to recognize all of the detrimental things
that it can bring into our mentals in our life. Yeah,
and so I think having boundaries. I love that you
(36:03):
take social media off your phone. I think I should
maybe start that practice.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Girl, I double dog.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Dare you to take Instagram off your phone for like
the next three days and see how much you reach
for your phone to look at it, because like, yeah,
it's crazy, it's craz easy. Yeah, no, you're right, Yeah,
just delete the apps just like it'll be there. So yeah,
no social yourself, no socialself. What's your takeaway? I think
(36:29):
that mine is like I'm doing the right thing for myself.
By I mean, I know everybody's in front of me,
like by going on and off and stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But like, I think it's good for me. I think
it's good for me not to have, you know, I
think it's I think you've.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Found like a good balance or you're finding a good balance. Yeah,
you let yourself indulge and like have fun with it,
and then you're like and you take a break.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yes, And I encourage you know, I encourage our community
to like take it off sometimes, because like it is
wild how much you reach for it, especially when you're lonely,
especially when you're by yourself.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Like you know, I'm not saying you have to like
text a friend, but it is a good thing to do.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
It's like but also just like be by yourself, you know,
like just hang out and chill and sit for a
minute and like don't look at everybody else's life, disconnect,
like focus on other stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's it's good for you. Yeah, discover what those dopamine
hits are for you and realize yeah baby boom boom
boo ooh flower bo you know, yeah, Okay, I feel
a little more better.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I feel like I'm doing the right thing by having
Also the bit is hilarious of people being like do
you have TikTok on your phone.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
It truly is. I enjoy it. So I enjoy a
good bit. I enjoy a good bit. I feel a
little more better about it. Yeah, I feel more better too.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Good, Yeah, okay, cool, this is good. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I can't wait to check in with you tomorrow and
see if you took. If you do, you can do it.
Just start with twenty four hours. You can do it.
I want to do it. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Guys, we're taking a little break for the holidays, taking
some a little bit of rest, so relax, say back
even sillier, stupider New Year. But we want to hear
from you while we're taking our little restspit, so please
keep emailing us and keep sending us MS, and we
(38:26):
love a voice note about what you guys want to
hear on the pod.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
You can email us at Morebetter Pod at gmail dot com, or.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You can hit us up on the DMS. Just slide
slide right in there, slide right in there. Yeah, Happy holidays,
Happy holidays. See you next time, guys, See you next time.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Dude, you have something you'd like to be more better
at that you want us to talk about in a
future episodes.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried
one of our tips and tricks?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at More Better pod
at gmail dot com and with a voice note if
you want to be featured on the pod. Ooh More
Better with Stephanie Melissa is a production from w V
Sound and iHeartMedia's Mikutura podcast network, hosted by Me, Stephanie Beatriz,
and Melissa Kumero. More Better is produced by Isis Madrid,
Leo Clem, and Sophie Spencer Zaebos. Our executive producers are
(39:17):
Wilmer Valderrama and Leo Clem at WV Sound. This episode
was edited by Isis Madrid and engineered by Sean Tracy
and features original music by Maddison Davenport and Hello Boy.
Our cover art is by Vincent Remis and photography by
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Speaker 2 (39:38):
See you next week, Saga Bye,
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