Ep 1: Dat Dude Interviews Lil Wayne

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to more to it, where I talked to athletes,
entertainers and unique folks to find out the stories beyond
public perception look sort deceiving and there's nothing simple to
achieve it. I'm our Slust Whitely. You might know me
from Fox Sports or my ten year football career as
an All Pro defensive end. But you might not know

(00:23):
about me is that I'm from Compton and went to
the Ivy League, and I have a lot of opinions,
a lot that I don't get to express on TV.
But you know there's a lot more to my story
than that. Today we're gonna talk about growing up in
an environment where you know at a young age that
you would have to be the grad winner for the family.

(00:44):
As a kid in Compton, I grew up fast, much
faster than I ever desired. But I knew what my
family dynamic was. I knew that my family was in
pursuit of something better, in chase of greener pastors. Here
my grandmother tell us war stories of how she had
to move from Watts after the Watts Riots to Compton

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just because it was so violent, and then hearing my
young mother tell us that we were moving from Compton
to South Central in the same pursuit of greener pastors.
I knew that what came with that was a huge responsibility.
I had a talent, not many talents, but I had
a talent. I could run, and I was a smart

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little kid. And with that running ability and my intelligence,
I knew I had to use all of my talents
to help my family get out of our circumstance. And
I felt the responsibility, but I never felt pressure. There
was no pressure because I had no choice. I had
to be responsible. I had to choose differently. I had

(01:48):
to choose wisely. And I learned from my grandmother that
my identity was so important. It wasn't just who I was,
but that she used to say who I was not
growing up. Immediately, I had to figure out who I
wasn't going to be, and it was a pursuit to
try and find out who I could be. Our guest

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today has a similar story. He is one of the
most influential hip hop artists of his generation and is
often cited as one of the greatest rappers of all time. Today,
we're talking to the one and man, what's up, Boy?

(02:31):
What up? Tune to how you feel? Brother? Whatever. Man. Man,
it's so good to be here with you right now. Man,
I think in my journey, nothing is better than working
with your friends. And just to start this conversation off
full circles. The first time I got a chance to
meet you, I was actually djan at an sp ESPN event,

(02:56):
and you know, we all in the V I P
and my V I P had one V and yours
had like two or three vs. Right, And I remember,
just like, Yo, this is the dude that I've been
in the locker room telling everybody from Hello that this
is the one, this is the man, this is the

(03:17):
living legend himself. And so through all my journeys, man,
it's just a great full circle moment as we became
friends and got to chop it up and uh talk
our sports, talk our life, and now we're gonna talk
at all right now, big dog, how are you feeling.
I'm great, man, Oh, I'm so blessed to have this
conversation with you, because we're gonna take it deeper than

(03:40):
just Google and Wikipedia. I'm a big believer that failure
is natural and success has to be sought and taught,
and talking to no one more successful and what he
does than my man, little Wayne. And with all you
have accomplished, the people don't get the seed, the seeds planet.
They don't get to see from the ground level, that

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foundation level that built all this success. So let's just
start there. And what are your memories. Your first memories
are just growing up, growing up New Orleans. I was
from from an area called Holly Grove. New Orleans is
split up intowards, so you know how other places may
have sides, uh you know, east side, south side, and

(04:23):
we have wars so and it's their number song from
the seventeenth ward. My grandmother raised me because my mom
at the you know, times being different back then. My
mom had me when she's like nineteen twenty. Back then,
they felt like that was like twelve thirteen. You know,
I have my first kid at fourteen, so a kid

(04:43):
had a kid. Yeah you feel it up, but back
then so at So my grandmother raised me for till
I was about eleven years of age. So I learned
a lot. I learned. I grew up, you know, real fast,
because I was being raised by my grandmother, Sera, and
she she didn't cut no corners, you know what I mean.
So I grew up real fast, was very very very intelligent. Also,

(05:06):
like you know, my grandmother depended on me a lot,
and I loved it, so you know what I mean.
So I felt like I was you know what I mean,
as a as a kid, I felt like I was
the man of the house. And so she and she
she made sure I felt that way. And so that
had a lot to do with it. And as far
as the foundation and I started. She would have a
she would have a living room for the people at

(05:26):
about ten pm every you know, probably every other Friday
or Saturday, and you know, they and they're and they're
getting drinking, having a good time. And uh, she would
call me, come up, come up here, come up here.
And I already know what they want. I mean, I'm
I'm seven and eight years old. I already know what
they're about. Asked me to do. I gotta come up
there for phone, and I got to sing whatever song

(05:48):
they asking me to sing. Did you say sing that wrap?
You said sing sing sing? Yeah, they ain't trying to
wrap the old folks, not that that's all right? Yeah,
is I had to put on my grandmother wig, throwing
the sock on my hand, on my hand, make sure
I got on some nice socks to you know, she

(06:08):
had she had the floor, she had wood floor, so
you know you could do the Michael Jackson well good
with the socks on, like yeah, you already know. And
so with the one sock was that was that? That
was his glittle glove you feel, Yeah, And I go
out there second a few Michael Jackson songs in there.
Let me go to sleep, to sleep over all that
music that go to sleep, that's your sound track. Yeah.

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And so with that said, I became infatuated with performing,
just the idea of performance, period and so when there
was things so in school, when there was things like
a play, a play that comes up and you know,
we're all in class and you know, we all know
the play. Got that one role that no one wants
to be, you know, and you know, and it's usually

(06:53):
the main role, you know, because you're like nobody, like
that's too many lines. I remember writing all that exactly.
I was like not giving I want that role because
it was performance was everything. So it stayed everything to me.
I performed in front of caskets, what with the person
with the person right, you don't don't don't pause, they

(07:17):
don't get you know, celebration they got man listen, man,
that was that was an interesting experience. Man, I was
I was probably every bit of just twelve years old.
It's a twelve years like Lemon twelve they you know.
They asked me to write like a poem. I can't, right,
So I just wrote a rap. I wrote the verse,
and so I ran the verse about him in front

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in front of Catman. The whole church went crazy, and
he just laid there chilling, like yeah, that's when I
knew that, you know, I knew it for a fact
that right at that moment, that was one of the moments.
Right now, I'm looking at everybody's emotional you know, everybody
obviously they all the emotional, the crying and stuff, and
I knew sitting back down at the church, pew, I

(07:59):
knew for it felt weird because I was like, man,
I feel so good, you know. I was like, I
feel so good. I got this reaction, and so that's
when I knew, Yeah, you just let her perform, and
that was a whole you know what I mean, that's
when and that's that's the foundation of it all right there. Wow,
So you're in your grandma's house, your house, and you're
just doing you know, the family Talent show, probably pro boned.

(08:23):
Oh you're not getting paid for you just allowed to
go to sleep. That was your pam. And then you
do the funeral and I'm sure between there if not
one of those moments you realize, oh I got something
in here, I got a special talent, especially growing up
in your circumstances where a lot of the outsiders are

(08:46):
always trying to tell you what you're gonna be, what
you gotta be, or what you can't be. What was
the moment you realize little Wayne got a special talent.
I would say that moment was when I wrapped for someone,
when I rapped for a man, when I when you know, when,
when when I was on the block, on the block
shot of Apple in the Eagle Street, That's where I'm from.

(09:08):
That was cash Money Records. By the way, Cash Money Records,
they've they've been prominent in New Orleans at least at
least twelve or fifteen years before we even signed to
Universal Record. Yeah, they was already big. There was already big,
and there was big in New Orleans. So what that
said they were they had an artist that was from

(09:28):
my block, and so that artist. One day finally you
know you but let me hear and I heard you rap.
I heard you be wrapping. Let me hear something. And
when I rapped for him to see that the actual
interests I wasn't worrying about if you liked it. He
was what I called it. I remember that the most
about it was he was interested. You know, he was

(09:48):
like he looked and I remember the look on his face.
He was like what he was like, what you're just saying?
You're knowing what that's That's when I knew that the
things I'm learning at home with my grandmother because she's
you know, she's of age, I'm putting that into wraps
and I'm I'm now I'm wrapping it for older people,
and they're looking at me, like, how you know that?

(10:08):
And how do you make that? How do you know
how to make that round with you know, I mean,
the proper words to go before that and after that,
you know what I mean? And so I know this
little things like that, and those little things like that
made me keep doing it. And that's what true genius is. Man,
even at a a foundational level, it's just the fact
that you're already ahead of the game, and that's sophistication

(10:32):
that you're talking about. I mean, in my world, it
was different because it was athletics. So it's interesting with
a musician, if you're ready, you could be young Michael,
you could be little Wayne. You could just go hit
the block and next thing you know, you're on stage
on a worldwide tour. But me being an athlete, my
moment was I was in front of the house and

(10:53):
I'm like a seven year old and I'm out there
playing you know, street likeness six four to like never stopped.
Stop the way, bro, I should have had n il
deal before they damn but like, uh Andy Reid for real,
Hey pump passing kick Chap, don't sleep bro, bro real talk.

(11:19):
But I was tall, skinny. Uh No one thought I
would turn into this mammo that I am now. But
back then I was tall and skinny, but I could run.
I raised your cousin, I race your uncle, I RACI
your daddy, and I might get them too. So it was,
you know, a young kid. And I remember this cat,
Dominique Walker walked up to me and he was like,
hey man, you need to play football. And I was

(11:40):
like why. He was like, because you're fast, and you're crazy.
You don't care about getting hit or hitting anybody. I'm
diving into cars, running into the pole, just to get
that complete. Yeah, I'm not gone. I'm picking you first.
I'm picking you right. So I had that moment and no,
lie you. Fast forward after I played football that season,

(12:03):
I had a Superman moment where I said, oh, I
got something just like you said, and I had to
put my k phone. I called it my Superman moment
because it was like, it's time to save my family,
time to save my circle of friends, my circle of influence,
because I got a special gift that can get me
and us up out of here. What was your Superman

(12:25):
moment when you realize not only do I have a talent,
but now I'm gonna make this thing get us up
out of here. I know exactly the moment. So when
I tell you, I told you I was thank guy
very intelligent. My mom My mom was very She was
very strict about that. You know, she was very strictly
like you know, she was one of those moms that hey,

(12:45):
we all we all did what we shouldn't have been
doing when we was in school. You're not about to
be that. You're not about to do that. You're gonna
bring in AI's and if you don't bring in the
eight years, we need to talk. And so I was that,
So I bought it. I was that kid. So what
that said when she, you know, she knew that I
was rapping, she would be like, it would be like when, uh,
you ever heard what Kyrie talk about when he was

(13:08):
watching the uh and when he would watch the and
one tape as a kid. He said his daddy would
come back then and see him watching him and be like, Uh,
you better not bring that to practice. That ain't real basketball.
So my mama, my mama hit me rapping and be like,
that's all. That's nice and cute, but you're gonna you're
gonna be a lawyer. You're gonna be a doctor, so

(13:29):
you can stop thinking that you're gonna be a real
that that's that's gonna be a future traditional exactly. And
so she would literally find a folder full of raps
burn throw that ship. Throw it away, mama, man, yeah,
ship threw it away. So and so there was a
turning point. Though. There was a turning point. And I
was twelve. My my my stepfather at the time, who

(13:50):
I consider my father's name Rabbit. He passed so Rabbit.
He he had homeboys that actually, so this was the
moment where the trend was all. Remember the trend was
all the local companies from from certain cities was finally
signing signing major deals. But that trend and we so
we master Pass signed already and so you know, so

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we was we was cash money was up next. I
wasn't with him yet. I wasn't with him. So my
mother my father Rabbit at Homeboys from his hood, and
it was they had a company called Rough Error Records.
They had already signed, they signed with whoever a major
and so you know, the whole city had already knew
that Rough Error sign. So my mom was like, you know,
if you're gonna wrap, you need to um. She was like,

(14:36):
you know, go Rabbit, go take you over there by
Rough Error and see what they think about it, you know.
And so he bought me over there. So he bought
me over there. By his friends. They checked my check
the music out. Mind you, I told you cash money
being a statement in New Orleans. So when they listened
to the music, I would never forget this. They say, man,
it was like, man, he sound I was eleven and

(14:57):
the music I was, this was I was on the beat.
This was real recorded, you know. And so all that
my dad pays seven hundred dollars to give me a
studid some studios rap pace seven hundred dollars to give
me studio time to get a beat. Daddy gotta beat,
got the studio time, and I put three verses down
in the hook. He played that for them. They were like, man,

(15:20):
he crazy. There was like, we will put he gonna
if we signed him, he's gonna be our first artist
we're putting out. It was like, but they told me
it was like, but Rabbit, man, if he wants to
cash Money, he would be so perfect for them. It
was like he got the sound, he's everything about them.
And then he was like, if they're missing anything, it

(15:41):
was like it was like watching looking at a basketball
team that just lost something, like if they're missing anything,
they need him. And so cash Money always had a sound,
just like Master. He got his own, No Limit got
their own sound. We always had our sound. That that
that wold and all that that Ben now was been.
So that was always a sound. So I guess when
they heard the verses, I think I would you know,

(16:03):
obviously I'm on the songs saying whoady, I'm saying all
kinds of cash money references. And so it was like, man,
he perfect, but for cash money. And so so when
we got back in the truck before rabbit, we got
to sit down in the truck. Before he even start
the truck, he said, he looked to me and look
at me in a passenger. See, we listened to the song.
As a matter of fact, he put the tape in.

(16:24):
Did you like it? What did you like it? By
the way, kids, it was a tape. It's this thing
that you actually you actually put in the cars and
a car came with it. So we put the tape
in the song go off. He looked at me, he like, man,
he likes it. Bro, you already know you're like, man,

(16:47):
I would love to see you like you already know
I would love to see you over that we car.
Know that's what you want. I know you want to
be over there with cash money. Like but you you
know your mom ain't gonna let you do it. So
my mom may want me to go with cash money.
Because she went to school with babe. Oh yeah, she
went she went to high school with baby and you
know baby baby from the streets, you know. Yeah. So

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she like, you know, to her, that's it wasn't saying
my son is going with baby just it's mogul. Just ready,
this mogul who assume be a more? You know? It
was like, no, my son going with little Brian who
I went to school with, right, if you know what
I mean. And so she was like yeah. She was like,
you ain't about to I'm not about to put your

(17:32):
your future in And so, going back to that conversation
in the truck, he said, listen, you know what you
gotta do. I said already, he said, you gotta bring
in straight a's from this point on. He was like,
you cannot here. I was like, are you serious. That
was like, that's like telling me I gotta make sure
I put water in the tub before I take a bath.

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That was like I was like, all I do is
breaking as he was like, I already know. So so
he picked up his cell phone, flip phone, flipped it,
called her, say babe. She was like, yeah, high wind,
high wind. He said. They loved them. They loved it

(18:15):
back they say they read it. But guess what she said?
What he said? He going with cash money going with
Baby and them. She said, what he said? He said, look,
look babe, they said, they say he perfect. They say
they'll signed him right now, but if he go to
cash money, he'll be the best that thing they ever had.

(18:36):
And she said, that's what they said. He said, that's
what they said. She said, what you think. I think
he should be with cash money, Baby, I think that's
what he should do. She said, what he better make
sure them graises. Right, there were game seven hundred dollars,
so I'm sending them quiet, you know, because she don't know.
I'm sitting there like, bro, I didn't win on six five,

(19:01):
six years straight, asking this woman cannot be with bad
cash money and no. No. I was like, man, this
is you know that man come through many honey, I say,
I say he's gonna be with cash money. Okay, tell
him he better had him grades, right, I said. When
when up he hung up the phone. We was like,

(19:23):
and so I called Baby writing. She said yeah, he
was like what I said. She said, yeah, she's happnna
be with y'all. Rest the rest is history. That was
my moment though, that moment, right, that was my Superman mom.
I must put on this Cape, because I had to
put it on in two ways. I had to make
sure I keep them aids coming facts. That was the first.

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That was my I had to be Superman in that
way first if I wanted anything else to happen. And
then I had to make sure I take care of
the music parts. So therefore, my mom couldn't know that
what you is, what you're doing is work doing. Oh
I love hearing that, you know what I'm saying. So
I had to make sure that what she heard anytime
she heard that her son is on the song, I

(20:06):
had to make sure that it wasn't something popcorn something.
I had to make sure it was meaningful. So therefore
she could be like, Okay, you're doing something. I had
to throw the cape on through that Cape on man
for real, And Mom strew away your original masters, you know, like,
no matter what you've been through, those original wraps, those
are your original masters. Mama got them all the way,

(20:29):
all the way. She didn't care about none of that.
And you know, it's crazy hearing that story and the
moment when your father is on the phone talking to
your mom and you're quiet. Now think about it. You're young,
so obviously how far can you flex your influence? You're
at the mercy or whatever they decide whatever. Yeah, but

(20:52):
you also know you're cooking it up in your brain.
Wait a minute, Popstone gave seven hundred dollars, which is
a huge investment, especially at that time. That was seven hundred,
seven hundred thousand at that time. Thank you in Hollygrove.
That's seven millions. And he gave that money for you.
So what comes from that in that quiet moment? To me,

(21:15):
it's also the switch of like, wow, I got talent,
but this investment means I got a huge responsive responsibility. Man. Yeah,
so talk to me about the flip side when it
all sudden goes from it's fun and games too. Oh,
it's the responsibility and it may be a burden because
they looked at me like a potential breadwinner. The moment

(21:36):
that the moment that happened was Unfortunately, when that moment happened,
when I knew that I was being looked at as
the potential bread winn and I knew it was, I
wasn't being looked at as I knew that I had
to be. Yeah, unfortunately I was. When the man that
got me that the man that spoke to my mom died. Man.
When he went, when Rabbit got when my stepfather got killed,

(21:58):
that's when I knew, Okay, I know what it is.
You know, I know what it is. I knew that,
And at that moment, thank god, he had already got
it taken care of. I was I was a rapper
because with them, Baby knew, Baby know the whole story,
knew how he knew that Rabbit is the reason why
I'm with them. He knew I could have been with
rough error records. You know, I could have already been
with those guys that was already nationwide, you know what

(22:21):
I mean. So he was like, Baby already knew, that's
a respect the whole facts. And when Rabbit died, he
even took it upon himself, as you know what, I'm
gonna make sure that this becomes more than just something wow.
And so that's that was my moment where I knew that, Okay,
I'm not just rapping no more. This ain't just making
words round and this ain't no this is a job. Man.

(22:43):
I love the fact that you said that there was
a moment when you wrapped in front of a man
that you knew that you had a talent because my
dad's best friend. But when did you recognize from the
world that, wow, I have a talent, that I made
it moment? When did they come to you like that,

(23:04):
I got that? Oh, I got that moment. We're on tour.
We're on took cash Money Rough frid To Tour. Shout
out Resting Peace, Dmax cash Money Rough Frida Tour. So
we used to come out to stage the hot boys.
We used to come out to the stage in the helicopter.
Because remember cash Money was the head of the helicopter.

(23:24):
We said that was that was the cash money sound
a helicopter was a kid, that's cash money. The helicopter
used to come from the middle of the middle of
the arena. From the middle of arena, go to the
top of the sea and fly all the way to
the stage, drop us off in the states. We get out.
The whole time we up in the air this baby
before making rain. The whole time the helicopter is in
the air, we dropped, we're throwing we're making the rain

(23:46):
on the crowd. And so this way, before making rain,
we used to get to the to the middle of
the arena. The only way we would get to the
middle of arenas. We used to have to get them
dirty them dirty as hampers, y'all, throw all y'all your
jerseys and every day after the game. Yeah, we used
to have to get it because that's the only thing
they could put four people in and put the lid

(24:07):
on it without nobody knows what that is. I swear
we used to get in that and they would they
would wheel us to the middle to the to the
middle of the arena because you know, we're in the
middle of the crowd. Imagine the crowd looking at the
stage and they here, but they see the spotlight behind them.
They turned around. We're in the middle of the crowd
in the helicopter going up and yeah so so so

(24:30):
imagine so I get sick on that and on that tour,
I get like a little a little flu let, a
little flu thet stomach bug. And so Slim baby, big
baby older brother who he's the president, Slim and Slim
was always like my second father, you know what I mean,
next to Rabbit. When Rabbit, Slim is always he took
me I was, I was Slim and steal them Slims everything.

(24:52):
And so with that said Slim Slim, you know he
made me, made me miss a few shows, and so
I stopped. So you know, well I missed like three
folk shows. What you are He just made me stay
in the room, man like some soup things like that.
And so mind you you know, I'm only fourteen, by
the way, I'm only like fourteen. Yeah, yeah, it's hot boys,

(25:14):
I'm only four team, so baby going. So this was
the days where that was that was these things we
gotta tell the kids. That was these things called um
play machines. So you already had your whole show. You
had your whole show already like put together, and it
was it was sync up into this machine. There's no

(25:34):
stopping that. However it goes. You have to go through
that whole show, you know what I mean, there's no
changing that's you know what I mean Like today. What
I mean by that is if you and I was
in the group and we're going tour, if you missed
a few shows, I could just I don't have to
play the songs that you're a you know what I mean,
I just do it. But back then I gotta play
the songs that you don't even if you they are
not exactly so Baby and them, so they only only

(25:59):
had one so a song at the time. It was
black his hot banger though Banger You feel Me? So
baby was like he was like, uh, Eric, So the
night I missed, the first night I missed, he was like,
you know, sorry, y'all, Little Wayne couldn't be here tonight,
but we're gonna still do his song for him, because
that's my little that's my son. We love him so banks.
So he played the night. As soon as he say that,

(26:20):
the crowd go the whole stadium. Dude, so stunning that
my song is the fourth song of the show, the
fourth song of the show. So he was like he
came back. It was after the second show. He was like, man,
we can't do that no more because the whole show
sucked after that. Yeah, he was like, the whole show

(26:41):
goes all the way down after that. We can't do
that no more. So after like four shows, I'm feeling great.
I'm not sick no more. You know, I can't. I'm
ready to get back on. So I see them they
were about to getting We're about to get in the hamper,
you know, to go to the to the helicopter. Slim
tell me stop. You're like, now you're like I'm like,
I'm not sick anymore. What do you mean? I'm good.

(27:02):
I missed, but I'm ready. I got my ones, ready
to get in the helicopter. I'm like, what are you
talking about? You're like no, now you need to fall back,
like what so not? The whole show going. Now they
go to doing the show, the helicopter sounding boys in
the air. They're going the money. They they come down,
you and I'll do the hunh b G. Do his song,

(27:22):
Turk do his song. Baby say sorry, y'all. Little Wayne,
Little Wayne a little sick. He couldn't make it. I'm
sitting there like Slim says, take your shirt off? I said,
what take your shirt off? By the way, Slim always
thought I was a he loo. He looked at me
and like another tooth. Podcasts with the whole take your
shirt off, like taking you know, pod kept your shirt off,

(27:46):
Take your shirt off, take your shirt. I took my
shirt off, gave me the mike, pushed me out there
after the crowd, after the crowds, the crowd is boo boo,
my song comes on. I run out there. That was
the moment clarity, the moment of clarity. I never looked
for myself as I never saw that helicopter again. Yeah,

(28:10):
I'm still flying without a helicopter, and never saw the
helicopter again. From then on, all three of the Juliy
BJ and Turke, they still got in the helicopter every
every show from then on, every show when we don't
have social media. So therefore we was able to go
every show when sorry, y'all, little Wayne couldn't make it tonight,
but we're gonna still do his song frohim and I

(28:30):
run out. And that's how and that's how it stunned up.
That's how stunn up Slim. Everybody knew he's a solo artist.
Yeah he's not a hot boy no more. He's a
little white And that was the beginning of everything. That's
how everyone knew, not just me, everyone knew. I never
saw the helicopter again. I never got in the hamper again.
My my, my new entrance from then on out was

(28:53):
little Wayne couldn't make it tonight, and then set it
up like that with those extreme emotions like this support
amen to wow. Here he is dog those shirt and young.
So it's just a it's all carbohydrates you just pumped,

(29:13):
and everybody in it you know what's crazy about that
story are the extremes, not only the crowd emotions, because
I imagine if I go somewhere and I want to
hear the hot boys and little Wayne's out there, I'm like,
what we're doing here? This is incomplete, and then boom,
here he is and that's next level. But you know

(29:33):
what's interesting about that that extreme is also parallel to
how the success must feel in that moment, because once
that happened, everything changed, as you just said, and success
as I found out when I got drafted, Like literally
the moment before I got drafted, I was just dusty
old teddy bear Marcella. And as soon as I got drafted,

(29:56):
like the next moment, not only did everything change, but
first everyone around me change. Talk to me about how
that dynamic change. Where you wanted something, you got it,
but before you could even change, they changed, don't you
I want to say? I would say to that, I

(30:17):
would thank God for my blessings, and I would say,
because it started so young, so I was I was
always known, I was always who I am. Yeah, so
I never had the moment of I never had the
chance for them and even for them to even change.
You know what I'm saying. So because I was I
started at eleven, so I was always you know, so

(30:38):
I was always Wayne signed a deal at eleven, and
you know what I mean, So like there was no
one had to change. It was. I was always looked
at as we're not even sure this gonna even work.
This is something he does as a kid, until a
rabbit pass and I started paying bills, you know, and
I started playing bills and put my mom in another house.
And that's when that we start, you know, and they

(31:00):
start okay, okay, And so I would say I don't
I would say no one and I don't. I don't
want to say no one changed, but but you know,
it definitely went from Again, I would thank God for
the responsibility that my grandmother put on me at such
a young age, because with that responsibility, I still never

(31:20):
looked at them, them as in my family, when they
would come as family and friends. When people would come
at me once I had something and ask for something,
you know what I mean, I would never look at
that as them changing because I was always depended on
from a young age. Yeah, man, every child actor should
live that way at least had that mindset because It's
like most of us in athletics, we always have the

(31:44):
dream versus the reality. But it looked like for you
the reality was the dream, and so you lived it
all the way through. You never even had that intersection.
They were all just messed together. Huh yeah. And that's
why I think are whoever it is? I'm thinking I
think him every day, man, every day for never waking up,

(32:07):
say having waits, I haven't woke up yet. Imagine if
I'm challenged right now, speaking of whoever that is, imagine
if an alien came down here was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
what's up my status? Man? I heard her to do
a Little Wayne. I heard he a living legend. I'm like, yeah,
he is. But what would you want me to tell
him about Little Wayne? Which makes you special? What is

(32:28):
in that secret sauce that you now about to let
the world know that it's not gonna be so secret?
What is your special sauce? I think, pure, plain and simple.
It's to It's my drive. It's my driving, my love
for love and passion for what I do. Someone. I mean,

(32:48):
so I was on having a conversation with someone yesterday
and uh, I would like just understanding, I'm I'll never
master this. I am forever student. It's like I also
understand that the beauty of it is learning. I was like,
I learned, Like you know the cliche you're learning something
new every day, Like, well, that's if you're trying to

(33:10):
learn something new every day, you know. I was like,
so that's why I go to the studio every day,
you know. And I'm like, I try to learn something
new about myself and about what I do every day.
And I figure it out over a beat, and you
know what I mean. And once I and I, once
I finished, I listened to what I figured out, and

(33:32):
thank god I've been every time I play it back,
I'm loving what I played back. So now in that
position where not only are you still a student, but
be real, you're also a mentor. Man. I mean, you
conquered the sound that you were intended to conquer. Like

(33:56):
it's so crazy. When you play a football game, you
all the game plan and you also know the other
team strengths, and you also know when you make plays
the plays you left out there and you walk back
and you keep that quiet. You're like, ah, they don't understand.
They over there cheering, pumps, throwing confetti your way and

(34:17):
you're like, y'all don't even know I'm still in pursuit.
What are you still in pursuit of being the ultimate
the ultimate artists? What I mean by the ultimate artist is,
first of all, my grandmother she raised me, teaching me
things about like making me pay attention to people like Elvis,
you know, not we're not just said, I don't know,

(34:38):
not wanting songs, but just things like making me pay
like you're gonna pay like pattention to the greatness of
this man, you like, because she always would make me
pitt touch to the fact that he had so many errors,
you know, like some as in he was this person,
he was that, he was here in this error, he
was hitting that, he changed up, he was big, he
was he was that and he had to Vegas everywhere,

(35:01):
and she always meet Wayne Newton as well, Yeah, and Wayne,
and she was like, because of the fact that he
was um, he was able to do the Vegas Residency
and day, you know, things like that. So and then
Mike of course m J because of the fact he
was able to do it. And so as a kid
with the Bush Jackson five and then switch it up

(35:23):
and then do it and we loved every single way
he did it. I stopped still to be the ultimate artist.
So what I mean by that is, I want to
hit your time one day and I want here the
time to be like you know, a little Wayne is
coming to wherever. But I gotta hit it that Thursday.
Because therefore I gotta I gotta do. I gotta, I
gotta perform Thursday, Friday and Saturday because there's that much

(35:46):
of me and that mini means that you need, that
you gotta get. And so when there's a you know
how we do festivals now and we have a hundred
people on the list, a hundred because it's a festival,
we gotta spread it out. I wanted to be a
festival where it's just Wayne Thursday Friday, it's the ultimate artist.

(36:07):
And so Thursday you might get you whatever you know
you want, your your feature songs. When I bring out
special guests, I do that. Then Saturday, you know, Friday,
I might bring out do whatever the way and you expect,
and Saturday I do the way you're not expecting to
have it goes. I still strive to be the ultimate artist.
And still there's no confection in anything, So you know,

(36:30):
I used to always clown. In particular, one of my
home girls in the ninth grade. Her name was Tiffany
crane Bridge. I'm gonna call her out, um, y'all google
or if y'all don't know what she is and y'all,
but oh, that's Tiffy Cabbridge. Okay. But in the ninth grade,
she used to wear heels, show up to school immaculate,
and every day she was late to class. And she

(36:51):
got away with it because she was just that fine.
I'm just not at gonna lie like she broke school rules.
And you know, she just had all the older kids
at the school. Everybody every time they saw Timmy came,
it's just to walk Byre was a blessing, right. But
one day we had a real candid conversation, and I
was lucky because I was like, she ain't gonna never

(37:11):
like me. Right now, I'm Dusty in the night bread,
but I'm talking to Tiffany, and everybody looking, you know,
they're like, damn Tiffy talking to ourselves for real. And
what we were talking about was false humility. And I
was like, Tiffany, and all due respect, you're the finest
woman on this campus. But you gotta walk around every
day and wait for compliments, knowing you already that fine,

(37:34):
And she was like, what you talk about? I was like, basically,
you know when you walk in class, everybody like whoa,
But you gotta be like, oh this little thing, oh,
just me, And I ain't gonna lie a way. You know,
you're in the conversation, even if you're a hater, You
in the conversation of the greatest rapper all time. But
if people really want to be objective and look at it,

(37:56):
a lot of people say you are the greatest rapper
all time. You literally can do a festival by yourself.
So when you hear that, how do you feel? And
what does that mean to you? Blessed? Blessed, thankful, grateful
and also exactly what I wanted? Mm hmm. I feel

(38:18):
like I threw the dark here that we write down
a little right right down, the little smallest right there,
right there. It's all I dreamed. I told you. It
goes all the way back to being woken up and
waken up in the bed at eight nine years old,
called to the living room to do what I have
no problem doing, performing, having getting getting the perfect re

(38:42):
getting the perfect reaction, the satisfied reaction, and the complete reaction.
I was still I still remember the lass myselfs I
still can hear the lass, and as I'm walking back
to my bedroom, I still can hear them. I still
remember the lass and that boy that. But I still
remember the things they would say, that boy know your
talents and things like that. Boys, anything that anything, just

(39:05):
like I still remember, man, I still remember so what
I said. I still remember the way the crowd sounded.
The crowd sounded when I got to stage, And think
the last time on stage was thank probably last week
with games I did. I went out there with Games.
I still remember the way the crowd sounded. Still remember
I felt all that. I still get stomach. I still

(39:26):
get the worst stomach ache before every show. I have
to tell him it's Anita Baker. That That's why I listened.
I listened to her. She didn't know. Obviously she didn't know.
I listened to her before every show. She's the only
thing that made my stomach stop. Sweet Love, sweet Love
got you right, man, Sweet Love loved joined paying anything.
So I just gotta hear her. Boys, man, man, I

(39:47):
love that bro talk to me man like you ever
just sit back quietly. You're not who they think you are.
You're not who you become. You just you and your
essence and sit there. It's just four walls, maybe the

(40:09):
lights on, maybe they off, and it's just you, and
you think of the alternative universe, like all universe, like
what would happen? What would life have been if I
didn't pursue music, I didn't dedicate myself to my talent.
When you think of those moments, are are in those moments?

(40:31):
What do you think of I think of that a lot.
I think of that, think of that a lot. And
I always think of how thankful and how grateful I
aim to have my mom, have her the way she was,
the way she is and the way she was, because
I always think of it. The answer is so, it
always popped up in my head so fast, doctor Lawyer.
It's so fast, so fat, you know, it's so fast.

(40:51):
And I'm from you know, I'm from the streets. I
could have easily been something or a damn shore. Don't
need to be, you know what I mean? And so,
but now the first thing I think every time I
think about it, what you think you would have did
if you wouldn't have done this The first thing I
think of his man? What kind of doctor? What kind
of lawyer I would have been? And it's on and
it's all due to the way my mom was and

(41:11):
the way she made sure that you're not gonna be
nothing else. You're not gonna You're gonna be something. You're
gonna be a successful young You're gonna be a successful
black man. And she and she, you know, I mean
she refused for you know what, he refused for me
to be anything less anything lesten What that said? What
that said? When I say that I could have obviously
looked up to look and been something totally different, But

(41:32):
that said, you know, my father were he damned you
weren't no compented you know, you know you feel your
feel over your feel over straight. Hey, hey hey he
paid picture. He paid Manny Fresh for the be man

(41:53):
man many chulged. My dad is seven hundred. I had
to get that back once. I mean, you can't trace it,
so don't even try to face it. It's different. I
ain't no, Manny didn't, I ain't know Manny didn't he
he was, you know, like I told you, But Manny
and cash money was still had some of my dad

(42:14):
was like, we need to we need to beat. So
we hooked up with Manny got man Manny made me
a beat man. He was used to working with me too,
by by me even being with cash money for just
to split us for a little term. He made the beat,
and Manny made the Manny and Many is a genius.
So once he made the beat each other, my dad's
seven hunt for that man. I love it. You know

(42:36):
what I just caught. I heard you say this phrase,
so I'm gonna repeat it. Successful black man Mama had
that right then in her by loss. This is what
little Wayne's gonna beat. And I remember years ago you
said something that hit my heart, and at the time

(42:57):
we weren't personally connected like we are now. But I
just gave you one of them three thousand miles away Depps.
I was like, you know what, I hear him. You
said that you have never experienced racism. And the reason
I bring that up is because in my circle, all
of my black friends except two and I'm talking about

(43:19):
dozens said the same thing, like dog, they never experienced racism.
But the narrative, it's almost like pushing you. The narratives
almost like of course you have and I remember having
all those in their private conversations about Nabi, I haven't,
But then the public discourse was completely the opposite. Talk

(43:43):
to me about that moment when you said that, the response,
and how you felt about that response. So the moment
I said it, um, Actually it was so interesting because
it was it was it was asking me my uncle
Shannon on disputed. I thought, I mean mad when I
said my response because on kind of you know, he
was like, you mean to tell me coming from the walls,

(44:06):
you mean tell me you ain't ever been you know.
He was like, you mean tell me you ain't ever
been stopped by police and treated the wrong way just
because you was in a nice, certain call kind of
car and riding in a certain neighborhood they probably thought
you was supposed to be in. And I was like,
you know, like I never I'm sorry, I never had
that happen, you know what I mean. So one, as
far as the response I got from it, I remember

(44:27):
the very first response that means that meant the most
to me was his response. As soon as the camera
said cut for that segment, his hand was under the
you know, his hand was under the under the desk.
He hit my laces. He went to shake he on
he said, he shook my hand as soon as he said,
not even a split he said, he shook my hand,
and I said, he said, I want to thank you

(44:47):
for being real. It's I want to thank you for
it's I want to thank you for not being not
being stereotypical. I want to think, he said, because you
could have easily just thought back of any time and
said yeah, I gotta stop, it said, and just say yeah,
yeah to my question, just just so you could be
in a victim role that the whole world, the narratives.
I want you to think. I want to thank you

(45:08):
for being exactly who you are and know nothing more
and nothing less. It was like, I really, I really
want to thank you for that. And I remember that
was the very first response that meant a lot to me.
That was my first response to what I said. And
so with that said, though I always when when people,
I mean, when I think about, well, why why didn't
you experience it? Why didn't you expect There's an answer,

(45:30):
there's an answer, and I always remember, and I when
I before, i answered, I'll be I'll before I'll let
this be known that my answer is it's only for me.
It doesn't go for no one else. I don't know
you're I don't know you, I don't know your situation.
For me, I just always handled every situation though there's
no right or wrong way to handle them, if I

(45:51):
just handled it the best way possible, and by doing that,
it led me to the to where I'm in, not
where I'm at now, and where I'm at now was
a guy that's already nine that never experienced that. I've
never experienced man, brother, brother, brother. Not what I what
I mean by handling it the proper way and things
like that is if I felt that I was you know,

(46:12):
if I felt that I was being being treated a
certain way, you know, it's simple exit that situation. Yeah, yeah,
it's super simple. Man. It's it's interesting you say all
this because we boys. So you know, I'll drop a wileyism,
which is basically I already know what they basically are.

(46:33):
You gotta tell ye, I'm about to say something and
maybe I made it up and maybe I heard it,
but I would give credit. I would give a credit.
I'll protect the guilty. But my experience is my expertise.
So what we're not about to do is deliberate and
argue my experience. What we're about to do. It's open

(46:55):
minds and open hearts. And I'm not on a mission
to try to change your or even change your heart.
I'm just trying to lend my experience because this is
my expertise. So quick story, and I'm gonna make it
super quick because i want to hear from you. I'm
outside Jerome Bettiist birthday party and and this is like

(47:16):
my third time going in the Row annual event. And
every time I went no lies, something happened to me.
The first time, Coach check didn't give me my coat back.
Second time, they start just scrapping up there and messing
my table up, bottles filled everywhere. I'm like, dog, I
spent this money, but it's gone. But you know, I'm
in the league. I ain't tripping at least I gotta
act like I A And then the third year picture

(47:39):
this wine, I pull up in Valet and this I'm
at my heyday. So I'm feeling myself. I'm feeling yeah, yeah,
I'm in the excursion. When they still with riding and expedition.
So cast was like they like they're like wildy in
the build. It right, So I pull up. I had
more TVs than I had seats. I had just TVs stereo,

(48:04):
you know, the teens. Everything, all right, I'm doing the most.
I'm doing too much, actually, So anyway, Valet, party out,
party out. I'm leaving. I'm not lying. I'm walking down
the stairs to Vallet and I'm like this the first
time I came the Betsest party. Nothing happened. I'm bumped,
and I gave Valet my ticket. Took him a little
longer than normal to bring it because I thought it
was gonna be out front, because I told you, I'm

(48:25):
feeling myself. But whatever, he gonna get the car. He
come back and he's like, hand me the keys and
he take off. He phoned out, and I'm like the
first thing, you know, my spotty sins going on. I'm
l a Compton South Center. I'm like, I ain't seen
Valet run like that. It ain't that serious. Where are
you going? I look inside the car. Nothing beholes where

(48:45):
the TV was nothing, beholes, where the radio was nothing,
beholes where the speakers were. They robbed my whole truck
and then gave me the keys like spin off. So
I'm sitting there like what. And in that moment, next
to you know, everybody caught wind of what was happening.
It was not just me. Everybody was getting everybody getting wrapped.

(49:05):
So then they start scrapping the ballet fighting in front
of club all the And I only bring you this,
this conversation forward because what you said. And the police
come up to me long story short and say Marcellus
getting the car. And I was like, oh, two white
cops getting the car, take me away and drive me

(49:29):
down the street and they say we're taking you to
the police station. And I said why. They said, We're
gonna get you about of this, and I said wow.
And they took me to the police station. On the
ride there and kept telling me where the Hollywood Division.
We deal with high profile celebrities all the time, and
what we try to do is mitigate these situations, not

(49:50):
let them flame up. And I'm sitting there and in
that moment, I just tucked that away way and I
took that story away. I may have told that story
once or twice publicly, but I heard everyone wanted to
fund the police and racism and all the police are races.
When half of my homies from high school seemed like
man the policemen as well, I'll be riding down the street,
my boy. But what like here, I'm like, I just couldn't.

(50:15):
I couldn't reconcile what the narrative was. I know that
was some experiences, but I couldn't reconcile it with my experience.
So that was crazy for me. And I'm glad that
you were fearless in that moment, or at least authentic
to your signature. Now, in that moment, it takes me

(50:35):
full circle to like that's some grown man ship like you.
In a moment you're on National TV. You're talking to
Shannon unc who speaks for all of us. It seems
like like uncle's uncle, and it's like you knew what
to say because you knew what you had been through.
So now what would little Wayne right now say? Two

(50:59):
little who was seven, who was eight, who was eleven
trying to start in this game? I think I would
tell myself, don't you ever for once, don't you ever
for once, one no one second become satisfied Because I

(51:23):
haven't yet. I told you, I haven't woke up yet.
So and that's why that the room we are speaking
and speaking to each other. And right now it's my studio,
you feel me. That's why we figured out how to
let how to make the computers to the studio computer.
Oh we can make this this this computer con we
could work this out. Let's do this what so? Yeah,

(51:46):
So I would tell myself, just, man, don't you ever
you know, because it's easy. It's easy to sell. I've
been you know, I have I have friends that's artists
that you know what I mean that word artists that
you know what I mean. And it's so easy to
be sad and five with success just and I mean
the smallest bit of it. And when I say success,
I want people to know that I don't even mean

(52:07):
success as in money, fame, success to come in anyway,
meaning you could just like your verse. You could do
like you could do like you under seen that most
You could just like your verse. And that's you like, man,
I ain't, man, I chimped this man and you that's
saying you ain't. You might not do another verse for
three three months? Man, what just happened? Like like that

(52:28):
what I'm saying, so success could come, don't ever be
satisfied with that success you feel. That's all I'm saying
I would have told I mean, that's what I would
have told the young little wine. I ain't telling nobody
else that out dit my sons and my beautiful daughter.
Oh I love it. I love it those four kids.
So four blessings you got, man, I got four too,
So you you already know how the game goes. All right,

(52:48):
We're gonna end this with a little fun. I want
it fast because I know you can freestyle, know you
can just spit them real quick. I want you to
liberate and I don't need no PC because if you
grow up on national TV and say you ain't experienced racism,
you're ready to fly through these. So let's get through it.
Let's get it. You know I'm stilly, all right, Well,
let's start off with something that kind of caught me
off guard recently. I saw that my man is a

(53:13):
Wimbledon tennis fan, and you're out there repping so of
all the goats out there, because we know Yokovic took
this one again, one behind the doll of the goats,
the three goats, who's the goat of all goats? As
far as tenence I got, I'm sorry, I gotta go
right are you're gonna with Roger, even though he third

(53:35):
in terms of the majors. You're going to Roger Oak. See,
I'm an the dog dude, like the dogs, my god.
Not seating the doll on the doll on Clay. Yeah,
Oh that's that's That's how defeated. You're not getting that.
That's the Warriors with k d right. That might be
the Warriors again with Katie the way they're talking right now. Okay,
you want Phoenix, I know you do? You get out

(53:56):
there play? Are you just a fan from the outside? Man?
I really, Me and my homie T. Shout out tea man,
we get out there and play. And we went to
the to the spot Hallepino with peace Halipino pieces. Yeah,
halepeno peace, Yes, sir. He was with me that day.
So shout out t T. We go to We go
to the spot out it right close to where I
live at. Man, we go, we go to the little
club out here. We get it in okay and you

(54:19):
know that all right? Well I'm not sure if we
know what we're doing, but we get the ball go
over the net. That's all that matters, exactly as all
that matter. Greatest rapper of all time and not saying
you who is that notorious? Why? I'm sorry you said
of all time, of all time. I'm sorry. I would
uh and I would ask, I would ask for forgiveness

(54:39):
because I didn't pay attention. I didn't pay attention to
the question you want to remix. I take that back
to the greatest rap of all time, Sean J. C. Carter. Why,
it's just when when you do we you know, right
when you do this rapping thing is a certain is
a certain you know obviously, like like football, you know
what I mean, like football, Every sport is different. I'm

(54:59):
sure you know, yeah, you play hockey. I'm sure they
got something that they all that, you know, I mean
that they only know about something that they probably can't explain.
But it's, you know, only they know, you know. So
it's that that thing, that thing in wrap, that that
the only thing that only we know, and that he
has that it's like he's the time Brady of that.

(55:20):
I love that you said that because I get stuck
so many times on air when I'm just talking. I'm like,
y'all don't understand I used to do this. So when
I'm talking about another four player, it's something that he's
doing that. None of y'all catching that. That's the special
sauce that he has exactly exactly. Okay, let's get into this.

(55:41):
This season, the Packers will like this season, The Packers
will and I have the record we had last year
as far as probably, but we definitely will go third.
Then we went last season game and I bet and
if we get that playoff game man again again again

(56:01):
again again. No, we only got in one time. Whatever
for got Rodgers, you only got it one time. We
want all the other ones on the roads props for
that anyway, But I'm listening. Okay, Aaron Rodgers or Brett Farve,
who you want to go with? You got your team,
your all time Green Bay Packers team. Who your quarterback?
Let's go. I gotta go with bred, I go with
Bread telling you go ahead. You know, Aaron differ. Now,

(56:31):
outside of tennis, because we talked about it already, one
sport more people should watch is blank outside of town.
I mean outside of basketball and the regular regular because
you know everybody already. Yeah, yeah, outside the box. Because
I know you into that tennis? What else you into?
Because I know you basketball and football? Let me ask
that first bastball, football, football, football. It ain't even close, huh,

(56:53):
not even not even so outside of outside of tennis
and you know, and outside of tennis and outside of
the regular bank. But I think you should. You should,
You should get that. People should probably watch a little
more GoF just eat up their whole Thursday, Friday, Saturday
and Sunday lived. So I shot a live on Sunday.

(57:14):
Give me over there. They passed eight. They over there
doing extra holes. Bro, they that lived to it. Bro,
we're gonna get that's next. That's the next episode. We're
gonna get into that spicy enough. We're good social media
because I see you right now and it looks like

(57:36):
a gamer chair almost social media or video games, which
one gets to the little white a little closer? Which one.
I don't even do social media, so uh yeah, team boy,
you got a team doing that. Uh yeah, I don't
do scial media. And the last time I was more
I was, I knew how to really log onto something
and really get into it was called my Space. You

(57:59):
skip black Planet. He was on that too. I don't
even know what that is. I love it even better,
Oh that was before. I love it. But as far
as games, it will be games because of my sons.
There it is. There is Okay, best competition for cash money,
young money we're doing versus what's the best competition out there? Like, okay,

(58:21):
we're gonna get the people what they want. The money's
worth you picking between like what no limit, death row,
bad boy, quality of control, what you got? I would
say the best competition I would have to go in.
I would have to go to Rockefeller. I don't even
say that Rockefeller boy that jay Z forces It's like

(58:46):
that is real. Okay, I love it right now? This
country needs more blank man. I don't know to sound cliche, man,
oh man, do you but it's simple more damn love
a simple and I think you need to start with

(59:08):
yourself more self love and make it easy to love
others love that. What dream night for little Wayne is
doing blank, dream night for me is simple doing this
right here at the studio, man coming over one of
the bangers. That's about it. Dream night and you know
it when you make it, hunt you already know. Huh. Definitely, definitely.

(59:32):
I would say dream light Also that you got to add,
if it's a dream, then have a nice female that's
bobbing her head you know, bobbing her head said, because
of females of females confirmation on the song. It's everything.
It did start that way, though it did start that way.
I ain't talking to no listen, I'm not talking about
a song about loving nothing like okay, that's what that's

(59:53):
the interesting part. It's a female's confirmation on the song
about the subject that you think about the things, the
things that matter to us. Her confirmation on that is
is the confirmation of the general, confirmation of the public.
I want to break code right now and just be
like you told me to get in the game. That
confirmation from a man told you you had talent, but

(01:00:15):
now where you are in the game, a woman would
tell you. If it's say, did I hear that right? Yeah?
You ain't never lied. Dog. If a woman thinking she
like this, you ball that day, you put some work
in that day on that field. That's why I think too.
That's when you know, when you know you got one
of them, when you got one of them bangers, bangers,
when you haven't seen like you know, just the most

(01:00:37):
beautiful woman singing the worst words to the nastiest song Evergence,
but the song just go too hard. The song all
I'm about to box you in. Man, don't get PC
on me now, Okay, So I got this thing. I
always say that if I had one day to live,
take me to New York City. And this is in

(01:00:58):
my single day, so you know what I'm saying. But
I hate New York by the way close. But I
ain't there. But if I said, if I had one
weekend to live, take me to Miami. But if I
had I had one life to live, take me to
l A. So I know you live in New Orleans,
grew up there. Miami. We used to be the home
or maybe the home, other home. But you in l

(01:01:19):
A dog a lot of them. So New Orleans, Miami,
l A. Let me here one to three New Orleans
all day. Man, that's home, that's home, that's home, that's home. Home.
You would have said Miami in l A. Okay, I'll
say that Miami l A. Then I would have to go. Uh.

(01:01:43):
I would have to go to Miami first because they
adopted me. They adopted me, and they adopted me, and
I went you know, I mean, I went through I
was definitely I went through my struggles there. I went
through everything, you know, I mean, But they still adopt me,
wrap their arms around me. But man, all I can
say about the last man, I ain't been back to Miami.
What I say, if you gotta like to live. Look,

(01:02:05):
look all y'all, look you New Orleans finest l A
jay z he go to my school. He New York findest.
We'd be wearing them. Yankee has something in l A.
Stop playing? Did he did? He New York's fine? Y'all
need to stop playing. Well. I'm glad Compton is in
the house. I'm glad that l A don't took your hearts.

(01:02:26):
All right, I got three more questions, two of them
rapid fires. Part is part of being little Wayne. Partest
part of being little Wayne is not being able to
be that from my kids. For everything they ever do,
they never did. You gotta always I still have to
be a little Wayne. That's the hardest part. I love
that answer, Especially having to be a little Wayne when

(01:02:48):
you're actually doing something for them and with them. That's
more of the hardest part. And when that persona and
what everyone public facing sin meets that identity need that
real life You're like, come on, y'all, separate church and stays.
I know what you're saying, what's the best part. I
know a couple. The best part of it is my

(01:03:09):
four kids. A little ants for kids. That's the best
part of being a little way, my dog, my dog.
We're gonna end this on the Whitely as a man,
I want you to just tell me where this takes
you mentally in terms of life experience. Here's the whitely
Ism for you. Everybody wants to go to the parade,
but nobody wants to build the floats. Where does that

(01:03:29):
take you? Mighty ground from New Orleans, slide right there,
my dog, Man Living Legend, my dog, my boy. I'm
a fan. It's hard to just be full friend when

(01:03:51):
you respect somebody to the fullest. Man. In terms of
doing this podcast and more importantly our friendship, man, it
means a ton to me. Class. You've been great to me,
my family and inspiration to millions across the globe, Man,
Living Legend, a little one, Thank you, brother, man, Thanks
for having me. You're a real friend, for real brother,
for real. Man, your your energy. When I saw you

(01:04:13):
the act, your house brother and you that's that's I
was like, that's that's my bro. Like that's that's right right,
Like that's my bro right there. I was like, I
told you forgot it was at your house. Man, We
both forgot to watch you. I have to remind us.
But I just graduly like Marseller's Wild and Dwayne Michael Carter.
Can you please a man than your brother? Love man,

(01:04:38):
appreciate your fame. Oh that's that's the cut thing. All right,
my dog, that's gonna do it. For More to It.
You want to keep the conversation going, let's talk. You
can find me on all socials at Marcellus while More
to It is brought to you by Dan Patrick Productions,

(01:04:59):
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The show was executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcellus, Willie,
Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, and Maddie Stout. I'm Marcellus, Willie.
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