Ep 176: Pat McAfee ratings?!? FS1 is good BUT. . . Marshawn Lynch has beef??? KELCE/Swift???

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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you want to do? Oh man? I got love for
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You feel like a Friday than me, but that Thursday
is the new Friday. I know how y'all singles and
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on Friday already started all weekend and we already started

(00:48):
this show. Man. Welcome to never shut up. Y'all know
what we do here. We learn life lessons yep, and
we talk a little sports and entertainment and cover those
in the media like nobody else. You know how it
goes around hand. We start off every show with what's
up with that dude? Other than banging on wax over here?
Y'all remember banging on wax. The crips and bluffs were
actually rapping. He said, Pi Rue is cripping reversed, but

(01:12):
the sea is on his back. That might be all
things considered the best rap lyric ever. He said, against
the enemy, PI root is cripp on reverse, but the
sea is on his back. Y'all. Gotta go home and
digest that one, all right, y'all, So let's talk about

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what happened yesterday after this show. My wife kept filming.
She's now learning that she has an on button, which
means people in the media understand that if you meet
a lot of people in the media, celebrities, et cetera,
they're a lot more introverted than you would expect. Now
all of them. Trust me. I live in La in Hollywood.
I see them. Some of them be like turn that off.
You know who are actually on more? The ones who's

(01:55):
trying to get up there, trying to become famous, the
ones at the gym who are also bartend who also
has an audition on Wednesday, you know them like god, dang,
shut up. So my wife is learning that, you know,
all these cameras and all this stuff in her face
right now she's filming. She gotta be on. So you know,
instead of saying yes, I love my family, she has
to say yes, I love my family. You know. At

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the end of that, I'm looking at her like, yes,
I love something to eat, but she looking at me like, yeah,
I love door dash my face. So that's what's going
on around here. Other than that. If you guys see
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There are some things different around these parts. Yes, we

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gonna make up a prop bet like who's gonna have
a looser braid on the field when they take the helmet?
All this stupid stuff, right, Oh man, I just got
to do it, man, because why now we're gonna have
some fun with this. What else happened to me yesterday?
Had a tremendous call with a local foundation. Don't want
to say too much yet because we have a lot

(04:03):
in the works, but a tremendous partner for us. They
already feed the homeless, They already have Christmas toy drives.
They already go to South Central and all the neighborhoods
help the kids out there are underserved, underprivilege and give
them opportunities. They also give them things during the holidays
because they're less fortunate than most. Three on three basketball

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tournament we're talking about pick a ball turn were about
to get the dang dang rolling out here. So appreciate
them and their support and our partnership that's in the making.
Then I went to practice yesterday and I ain't gonna lie.
I put on my hat. I put on that coach's
hat for real, that old Bill Belichick, you know, not
this new one, the old Bill Belichick. Man. I went

(04:46):
out there and got them kids, right. I was like, look, y'all,
gotta be accountable. We have lost two games by a
total of how many points? Seven? That's one play. Actually
we win that game at an eight point with a
two point conversion. We win those games. We lost two
games by one play, and you know where that play is.
It's not in your cleats, it's in your head. Pay attention.

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Be accountable. I ain't say it like that that gangster,
but I was like, yo, lock in and hold each
other accountable. When you know he's not lined up right,
you tell him. When you know that he's not going
as hardest, you tell him, and you make sure you're
doing it first. Kids looking at me like yes, let's go,
And I'm not lying. And all my practices, Phil Belichick
will declare yesterday was my best practice in any sport

(05:30):
I've ever coached. So you know what that means. On Sunday,
we about to get boat racer kids. They use it
all up on Wednesday practice. They're gonna look a mess
out there Sunday. Now we got some wrinkles, We got
some things for these boys. I am literally this is
when experience matters. I am literally going deep deep in
the NFL playbook to go out there and be some

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may yr ols. It's going down. What else is going on?
I oh, during that practice, I had to bring this up.
Was acting like Ladani and Thomason in the practice. Cause
y'all don't know LT like I know LT because I
played with him rookie year. We drafted him in San Diego, etcetera.
That's my guy. He never ran hard in practice, and

(06:13):
it wasn't because he didn't work out and work hard. No,
he was so protected. He was so precious. We needed
so much of LT. No one touched him, and he
would always just smoothly like do everything. He was like
he was almost getting gliding mental reps and you better
not get in his way and he go at his speed.
But you, I mean, he gonna make the cut and

(06:34):
get the thing. But then it's just like this, I mean,
people who were there know it. It was the smoothest
glide you ever seen, because y'all seen him run top
speed and it looked like he chilling. Boy, he be
in practice just doing that and MJ gonna pull it
out yesterday. Now his knee was sore a little bit.
I don't know he got banged on during the game,
but I was just like, come on, little man, do
better or blt that was great? Blt out what a

(06:58):
laddn't do it? It? Don't have him a damn commercial with
somebody looking at the camera looking at them little kids. Hey,
so are a bunch of little kids and Pop Warner, MJ. Anybody,
you're just spinning and all that. And then they stopped
me say hey, I want to belt Arby's hook them
up LT five percent five percent. If I see that

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damn commercial, that's dope. Other than that, I had a
pick a ball tournament yesterday and let's just say none
of us played like LT. We were horrible. Whoa, whoa.
There are levels in everything in this world, including just drawing, like,
oh my god, yes I can really draw a look mommy,

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and then somebody else in the that's you in the
first grade second grade, Like I dang, let's scribble scrabble, right,
We got out there and got our ad worked. I
thought it was gonna be a round robin, but we
were on teams, so it was a mixing match. And
let's just say they mixed us up with some other
team and matched us with the wrong team. Why they
were waxing us. We won one game out of six,

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so yeah, for all you people who know records, that's
one in five. Let's just say that ain't good. And
I was the worst. I literally was like my left
my left knee hurt, and I'm a baby, so if
anything on me hurts, everything hurts. I'm just I played
that way. Give me the give me the needle, give
me the quarter zone, give it to me, because if
something hurts, everything hurts. I am a big baby. My

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nickname is Teddy Bear. Stop playing. So I'm sitting out
there like my knee hurt a little bit and that's
a lot, and I ain't moving for all the balls.
And then I just threw off my time in, threw
off my mechanics. I was sorry. Yes, I sucked. As
Rodney Harrison would say, I was garbage. My dog say it, brother,
and say it with your chest all right, y'all, y'all

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This is what I do, man, This is how much

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This is my life, my life, my life, My man, Marcus,
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get into this show right now, and let's belp. Let's
be like Pat damnit. I'm the king of transitions, y'all.
Pat McAfee out here getting it now. We all know
you made the move from explicitly being on YouTube to
now ESPN and YouTube, and the Pat McAfee show has
achieved significant success. Let's talk about it. Let's need some numbers,

(10:39):
some big round numbers. Two hundred and forty two million
total views in his first four weeks, Yeah dank, that's
a whole lot of that's sixty point five a week,
reaching an average of one point four million viewers and
peaking at one point nine million on ESPN's linear networks.

(11:00):
And you too. Okay, So the shows perform well digitally,
it's linear. Viewership on ESPN has been more modest, that's
what they're saying and reporting, with a peak of four
hundred and fifteen thousand viewers y'all and the average of
two hundred and seventy seven thousand viewers y'all over the
first four weeks. Immediately, when I see that, I don't

(11:24):
look at the product any different. I just look at
how you guys digest the product differently. Right. It's almost
like a potato. I do this to my son all
the time, but like, you want some French fries. Yeah? Here,
he'd be like, what, I don't want that. I'm like,
it's a potato. That's how you make French fries. You say,
we'll make it turn into French fries. He wants to
digest the potato a different way. I grew up. I

(11:45):
used to eat the potato. How Oh they's so good, y'all.
Red do that with a potato? Oh, next level? So
potato times, French fries, hash browns, whatever way you want
to consume it and to cook it up or whatever.
Still a potato. Damn. It's still pat McAfee, but it's
coming out in different ways we're gonna talk through why
you guys like y'all potatoes differently, Because linear cable, you

(12:09):
gotta be there. Digital cable, be there when I want you,
be there when I need you. So the full three
hour plus YouTube edition of the show has been particularly successful,
averaging five hundred thousand viewers, with a peak of seven
hundred and six three seven hundred and sixty three thousand viewers.
Good lord, this boy over here eat all right. So

(12:31):
the clips from the Pat McAfee Show on YouTube, the
ESPN app and social media have garnered over two hundred
and thirteen million views in the first month. All right,
enough numbers, damn it, marsh. So I don't know what
you're talking about. It just sounds like a lot, all right.
So it is a lot. So ESPN is hoping, they say,
more successful on the linear platforms and to just keep
balling out of control on the digital as you're doing,

(12:52):
and your engagement as great as well. So here's Pat
McAfee talking about this, and since he been on ESPN,
he says, quote, this show could have been an abysmal failure.
We had no idea what was going happened whenever we
came over here to ESPN. I know our people were
not happy that we necessarily were coming to ESPN. He

(13:14):
talking about y'all. He ain't talking about his homeboys. He
ain't talking about those on the cast and crew. He
talking about y'all. Watch this. They were calling me a sellout.
I was getting terrible things said about me to me
from our people. These people were telling me terrible things.
These people that are our fans were just I mean,

(13:35):
the messages I was getting from people about how much
I let them damn, and how big of a fraud
I am, and how big of a sellout I am.
All these things were terrible. Okay. Now, he reiterated that
despite the show now operating under ESPN's banner, he was
determined to change as little as possible, and the unfilter

(13:56):
nature of the show will remain, and they're still allowed
to swear as much as they want, with the exception
of the word. As my son says, F daddy word.
He says F daddy words. So, boy, we thought we
were gonna they were gonna hate us. McAfee said, now,
there's still a long way to go. But but, but,

(14:16):
but but it does feel as if what we are
doing is potentially working a little bit, and we are
incredibly grateful for all parties. Okay McAfee. He was being
too nice, too humble. He know this thing is rolling.
Listen to when somebody says this, they basically like, I
don't want to sound brag adultious, but he said potentially

(14:40):
working a little bit, potentially working a little bit. You
know what he's really saying. We hit the ground running. Huh.
It's all good, vic dog, but everybody flecks on him. Man.
So what I took from this is, Man, y'all want

(15:01):
it when y'all want it on demand. That's how you
want your potatoes. You want them cooked and slice a
certain way. Streaming digital that convenience that we all have
now dabbled in and realize I can't go back. I
can't go back. Oh, the selection of the content that

(15:22):
you have and the power of the choice that we
have as an audience to be like, I don't want
to watch all that. I don't want to sit down
at nine am and nah, when I'm on break, I'm
about to watch a part of this or a clip,
and you gonna give it to me, and it's gonna

(15:42):
be exactly what I want because your whole show three hours. Ah,
I don't want to talk. I don't want to hear
you talking about the Houston Astros. I'm ready for when
you're talking about the Baltimore Ravens. Oh. I see the
Ravens segment. Got it game over? We in the Jetsons. Y'all.
This is crazy, man, love seeing this. It's so our
keg now to even think that it still exists. But

(16:04):
there was a world where that's all that existed, right
where you had to be somewhere and you had to
sit down and sit somewhere and watch something. Now I
get it with sporting events, and I get it with concerts,
and let me tell you this, that's even getting disrupted. Yep.

(16:25):
Look at church. Now, church is like first you had
to go to church. You had to wear your funeral suit.
Remember that little kid. I remember me. I'll tell y'all yesterday,
I'll sitting in church. I want God Lord, mama, please,
this suit is too big and tight. That is too
long and tight, mama. So anyway, we went from that
to now. Remember, but the step before where we are

(16:47):
now was this step. Ah, y'all not coming to church,
just come as you all, So then everybody start coming
from the club. Huci mamas. Everybody just looking a mess.
RAI hat, T shirt and khakis up in church? Like
what up? Christ? I'm like, what church looked a mess?
I ain't gonna lie. It did mess with my mind.
Like I'm in church, I'm trying to you know, I'm

(17:09):
listening Bishop Noel Jones, my guy, love him, and I'm like, yeah, yeah.
And then y'all look to the right. What she got on?
I looked to the left what he got on? And
then I look again over there, what pronoun they got on?
What y'all wearing up in here? Like then I started
dressing last, And then next thing, you know, I'm like,

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why am I going? And then now that's where it is.
I want to see Noel Jones kick. I'm over here
chilling with some crocs on no socks, crazy man. So
that's what the game is right now. Bill Gates told us,
I'm gonna tell you again. He said content is king
back in the late nineties. Then he said everyone is

(17:51):
going to be a content creator. That's all, y'all. Anytime
you put something online, you put it for public display.
Welcome the content creation. You two yep, even you only
got two followers, and you one of them on your
little fake site, your little little dummy account. You are
a content creator and he also they all put together
in some eyes that everyone's going to be their own channel. Yeah,

(18:16):
so that was part of the few. A while. I
was like, let me get up out of here and
get where it's going, right, part of the few? All right?
So I laugh man when you guys the audience clown
McAfee told you go back to the old clips I have,
And I laugh when you guys don't understand how this
thing is going and how it is now. You're demanding

(18:37):
it your behavior is, but your mindset, it's like you
don't want to admit what you're doing. So you laugh
at content creators and you clown them. And then you
also say stuff like, uh, all you do is this
Like McAfee ain't gonna be nothing because he don't curse,
you know, Stephen ah Man, you just try to get

(19:00):
ready for your late night show and talk politics. You're
a conservative in drag, you know stuff like that. You
know what's crazy about it? You really telling on yourself
when you say that. Let me help you out, so
the homie don't laugh at you. When you do a show,
you do a whole show full of segments. Linear cable,

(19:22):
you gotta watch it all or you better be good
with your timing and jump in there when they on
your topic. But digitally streaming you go exactly where it is.
There are markers, time markers all through this telling you
exactly where to go and what you want. So in
my show, I always do four topics and then probably

(19:45):
loosely like ten other ones, but four big topics. I
love when people say all you do is this? All
you talk about? Is that? I'm like, what is that?
I talk about? Everything? Like today, we're gonna talk about
Pat McAfee ESPN, were gonna talk about FFS one and
all their shows. Then were gonna talk about Marshaun Lynchin,
Seattle Seahawks, and Pete Carroll, and then we got a
bonus top we can't talk about right now. But the

(20:06):
point is we going all around the world and it's
on you to go where you want to go. You
get to buy your plane tickets. So it's dope man.
Good job McAfee hitting the ground running. So are y'all loving, liking,
or hating the Pat McAfee show on ESPN? What y'all
think of the transition he's made, and what do you

(20:27):
think of the key factors to his success so far
in that transition? Authenticity, the vulgarity of hearing some curse
words on ESPN. Break it down in those comments. Here's
another ethic moment of my life growing up. Have y'all
ever heard caution bounced rock skate? It is your damn

(20:50):
for a rock? What you think? It's the evil side
rod of bumping bounce rocks skate? Not lying. I have
never ever in my life I wanted to do crime,
live the bad life, be a banger, gang bang, nothing,
not gonna lie. There's a weird energy that comes to
me when that song comes on. I'll be like, whoa

(21:12):
evil sorry rider, bump of bous Roska and they from
Dorsey to Homie, shout out to all of them and
rest in peace to my man Godzo. Okay, let's talk
about this right here, probably transition out order after a
I was gonna go to the shows, yet I'm coming.
I'm coming, I'm coming. I gotta make sure you guys
get a book, get one of these books, leave a
recurrent donation. Come on, man, I gotta say your name next, Like,

(21:33):
I'm gonna say, Stephen right here, look at Steven got
his own personalized autograph trophy book that he's gonna read
about my life. Never shut up. All right, let's talk
about some shows right now. That's talking some good talk
on FS one right now. Oh, let's start off with
First Things First. That's experiencing significant growth following a schedule adjustment. Yeah,

(21:57):
remember they had that. Here we go, Remember they changed
their time. And I remember hearing everybody say I always
say everybody. Everybody says, but it ain't everybody. But we're like,
oh man, he used to come on in the morning.
Now it's in the afternoon. That sucks. I can't watch it.
Come on, mom me loaf right. I was like, all right,

(22:18):
and now First Things First, hosted by Kevin Wiles. Y'all
know it is uh. Nick Wright and Chris Brossard achieved
this most Watts, MUNP and Bird album album with one
hundred and thirteen percent year over year increase in viewership.
Now let me break this down real quick, love all
three of those guys, wows is the first one I knew? Yeah, Wiles,

(22:42):
it was him and Jamie Horowitz. Whoa man? They were
Batman and Robbing out there, right, they were just the
one two punts that brought us Sports Nation, that brought
us first take, brought us undisputed. Yeah, them Kevin Wilder's
right there. Kevin Wiles used to come to me and

(23:03):
literally when I was on Sports Nation say stuff to me.
I was like, you need to do it, because you better.
I'm not gonna do that, like not like I us
did it. He always just knew how to be on air,
how to like make you more concise and like more
targeted in terms of what your point is. So always
salute to Kevin Wilder. That's my guy, Nick. Right, y'all
know John Wick himself, it's sucker looking like John. First

(23:26):
of all, I am the biggest fan of John Wick
in the world. So every time I see all, be like, man, damn,
not only do I like what you're saying, but he
got my movie character man Wick. But he kills it right,
big brain. It seems like he remembers everything, seemed like
he watches everything to remember, but he's killing. And then
Chris Bussar coming in with the biggest heart ever, you know,

(23:47):
gonna keep the ethics right, gonna make sure you do it.
Will respect. And then he got that twang whatever whatever
it is, high pitch or twang, I don't know which
on it, but it sound dope. Right. So the show
right now here, a lot of you guys say that's
your favorite show, that's my favorite show over there, But
I hear a lot of you guys say the same. Well,
obviously by your viewership right now, must be true. So
the show's been has seen thirteen because second, the months

(24:11):
of double digit year over year growth, which each month
in the new time slot surpassing the previous one. That
means they runs into the top the mom I'm gonna say,
keep on like they're doing that. They are killing okay,
so let's put them to the side for now. Now
let's bring on out out here Colin Coward and Jason
McIntyre show. Remember y'all will clown and Jason McIntyre, j

(24:33):
mack Ah, what happened to Joy? We ain't gonna never
recover from Joy book? And Jay Mack was always on
the show on Fridays, I think already. So j Mack
slid right into that position perfectly, and to her ty
this most watched month ever and experienced a thirty nine
percent year over year increase in viewer's yere so Colin,

(24:54):
now what Jason McIntyre beat Colin last year when it
was like the transition there. I don't even think Joy
was there because there was transitioning if you're saying September
to September, right, So, so the Herd is a chief
ten consecutive months of year over year viewership growth despite
new competition from who anybody in the comics. Pat McAfee

(25:18):
ain't the same slot. Yeah, Pat McAfee show on ESPN's slatform.
All right, let's put him over there, all right, y'all, No,
let's come on back over here. Colin jameson mack. I
like that combination of Jay McNew I know what, y'all.
Everybody always think you gotta be a man and a woman,
black and a white, and you know, Colin, you can't
just have another dude up there. But Jay Max come
off as a real good fan like. I think that's

(25:38):
the spirity brings because Colin comes like, I know it all,
I got it, all the answers, and if I don't, hey,
I'm gonna die on my sword. I'm gonna plant my
flag and I'm gonna do it. And I'm gonna be
a big brain about it and hit you and then
Ja Mack just come in and be like, it's that
deep for you, but for me, it's just a lot
more fun. And let's talk through it. I just like
j Max's energy on there. I see how they get together.

(26:01):
Now let's put them to the site. Now let's go
and bring old speak over here. Speak. They used to
be speak for yourself, three iterations deep. And now the
fourth one, which is this one is Speak featuring Manyo I, Choke,
Joy Taylor, and Lashawn Shady McCoy. All right. They also
set records with its most watched September ever, up seventy

(26:24):
seven percent over a year. All right, so seventy seven
percent over last year's September when they were those three
and David Helman, Yeah, David Helman, those four. So now
they don't move him out. I don't see him there.
He does a podcast. Now, who's there? I see Jones

(26:47):
a lot? Yeah, I see Jones a lot. So what's
his first name? I forgot? That's my god too, not Greg.
That ain't Greg, Jennis. I see him a couple of times.
I don't know if he there every day, So the
article that mentioned him, maybe I alone, all right, so
speaking scene continuous growth since it's revamped, with eleven consecutive
months of year over year growth in the slot, all right,

(27:08):
and it is showing its greatest growth since twenty twenty.
That's when I was there, Okay, all right, So I
read all on those articles and I was like, damn,
that's dope. You know. I am not a hater, So
I'm like, dog, I wish y'all success. And I saw
three of the shows get set, and I was like,
you know, you ever get to the bottom article. You

(27:30):
look and you're like, why all the ads there? It's
got to be something. Got to say more reating you
know what I mean? Nothing? They less undisputed out. So
it's interesting. Undisputed is the one show right now that
is not doing as well as before. Now before you
call it, sorry, whack bum told you all that. They've

(27:54):
also faced the most drastic and recent makeover of all
those shows, So it's gonna take some time for it
to get there, which allows you to have growth, which
allows you to have statistics like this that shows after
the makeover, you can continue to grow. So let me
give them their flowers. As I just did. All the

(28:15):
shows are doing better, not all time highs, all time
highs a month here, a month there, but not all
time highs in terms of the overall success of the show.
Certainly not Undisputed, certainly not Colin, just shit, but it
September was certainly not Speak. But September was first things first. Yeah, yeah,

(28:40):
they ain't ain't a whole enough thing. And most people
were saying first things first, best thing they got over
there right now? True or false? I do watch the
ratings here and there, and I see First Things first,
usually ninety percent of time as their number one show,
then Colin, then Undisputed, then Speak, and then Carton show.
Carton showed is last. They don't even mention that. Oh

(29:01):
they didn't mentioned that in the article as well. Should
have started there. So here we go. As I give flowers,
Remember how you give flowers, guys, Remember how flowers are made.
They come with the seeds. You know, they're starting with
the seeds of truth and then the dirt. Right, how
the sausage is made. Let's talk about this first of all.

(29:21):
Before you know anything about these shows, you gotta understand
how to read statistics. Okay, so you read these stats,
and you don't get aggregate numbers. That is great, but
it also can miss construe exactly what's really going on.
So I give you an example. We have doubled our

(29:43):
growth in terms of viewership on Never shut Up. Yeah yeah,
yesterday we had one viewer. Today we got two. You
see what I'm saying. Okay, all right, or it can
mean like right now, oh man, our ratings have dropped
in half in viewership. We lost half our subscribers, marcellus,
Come on, yeah, we went from one hundred and twenty

(30:05):
five thousand, now we're down to sixty what's that? Six
day one six, stay two five, sixty two five damn
Columbia faster sixty two five, But sixty two five is
way higher than two. You get that. Just keep that
in mind when you hear things like this, because this

(30:28):
is how no one's doing it with mall in tension.
It's just how people receive it. They don't always do
that because then people will use this as AMMO and
shoot at ESPN, shoot at First Take, and all their
shows over there, Pat McAfee, et cetera. Those shows over there,
and aggregate numbers are still doing much more. Even Pat
McAfee where they said, Hey, slightly disappointed in your linear

(30:50):
numbers is still double basically what you're seeing out of
First things first, just to be real, despite FS one thing,
more cable subscribers than even ESPN, as an article stated
last month, which blew my mind. Okay, So to break

(31:10):
down all these shows basically, first things first, what works
for it for me? And I'm listening to you guys
at the end of this what works, what doesn't? What's
the best? What's the worst of all of these shows
for me? First things first, the best part is they're
all in on it together, like it's it's not an act.
It's like guys who really get along with each other,

(31:32):
that know we're here to entertain and to prop each
other all up the best. Okay, I like that. That's dope.
And it's a good set, like their set is on
disputed Carton speak, they got the best set. Like it
just looks fresh right the blue and I think it's
a little orange brown in there New York Breaks something

(31:55):
like it just looks the best of all the sets.
That matters, that really does? They just fit well? Then
Greg Jennings is in there too, James Jones that's his name, right,
Oh god, I may messed up word? Greg Jennings? Is
there too? A lot? I see only Greg, so I'm
maybe more people there, but I don't see it every day.
Point being that's great about the show. How do they

(32:15):
continue to grow? I think they just continue to lean
in like together, like they almost just doing this in Unison,
And that's how they just keep growing. They ain't tripping,
they ain't having all the like craziness and everybody know
they laying and let everybody breathe and they laning. I
love that about that show. And I would tell you
if I saw some crazy. But Wiles is the ultimate
to throw up the alley you He like Broussard gonna

(32:38):
you know, he get his shot off anywhere. And Nick right,
good lord, I don't know what to say about Nick,
like he's Steph Curry in too, And that's what they got.
They got like an old wisdom and Broussard old g
Vett down on the blockhead man, and then also can
go out there and still hit the fade or what.
And then they got Nick just doing all this. You're likeright,

(33:00):
I heard it? That was sick. Go ahead. And then
Wiles just sitting there, you know, making sure everybody in
they right spots, getting the ball where they want it,
you know. Six Sick show. Okay. Also talked about Colin
Coward show. What's good about that show to me is
the fact that Colin still Colin is gonna go and
Collin is the type. Collin is the difference between Key

(33:22):
Sean and to to me, and I know him personally,
So I'm talking about like personally, not like their careers.
I always describe too as they both don't give a
damn like give me the damn ball, Like they both
ain't really tripping on you, but t O ain't tripping
on you and won't check to see how you tripped.

(33:45):
Key Sean will check. He still don't care, but he
checking to see what You're all right? All right too,
just moved on all right. So it's interesting I look
at that show like that, like Collins is gonna he
gonna do it? He t oh, I said it, Oh
you don't like that? Next segment? I love that about it,

(34:09):
And then I think that Jason just give them their
proper balance, a lighter side, a more fun side. That's
good to see because Colin can't be rigid. You know,
he can be like locked in and sometimes I seem
like Jason unlocks that speak. What goes well for them,
it's like it's bright, it's like glossy. It's like whoa Okay,

(34:31):
Like you know you it's the Hollywood show. You know
how you watch like Entertainment Tonight and stuff like that,
and you're like, damn Nick, you know Mario Lopez out
to Hommy. You see them all those shows whatever, Access
Hollywood all that kind of stuff, and you just see
them and you're like, wow, it's like real high level,
high out two just give you the layer of the
land kind of stuff. So they do that with sports.

(34:53):
What's good with them? What helped them keep growing? Like
just keep going and keep like they more like three
individual people, like three lead singers almost like that's what
it is. And I think what's gonna happen is Acho
is setting them up more than ever. He's more like

(35:14):
I ain't trying to flex fully even though he still
gets it off, trying to set them up. Joy Gonna go,
Shady gonna go. So it's almost like you're looking at
it like what was the name in uh in the
not the Temptations? What was at the four Heart the
five Heart beats, like one of them kind of things.
It's like, nah, all y'all gonna be the lead singer

(35:35):
sooner or later. But they just gotta keep going with
that undisputed. I really, I really want a better set.
That's the biggest show they got. I just want a
bigger set. I think that will help them out, uh,
because it just looks like first things first looks and
speak look like whoa, And then you look at undisputiting like, oh,

(35:55):
maybe it's because it's early in the morning. But they
got the names, they got the guys. They can get
it going better. All right, let me beat this up
because I gave them like Flowers gave you the season truth,
and I gave you some dirt. Oh you want more dirt?
I shall. This is what's interesting about this one whole thing.

(36:17):
When I read through this and I was like, dang,
you know, it was like I left the Chargers and
damn the Chargers turn out to be fourteen and two
now they lost in the playoffs the first game. But
I was like, damn, when I was there, we were
eight and eight. Now this like it's fourteen to two.
They better, right, And I look at Speak, and I
know a lot of people think that in this game,

(36:38):
I'm playing this industry, I'm in that. You gotta hate somebody,
you gotta be mad at somebody, you can't be happy
for somebody. And I'm like, nah, dog, I'm just gonna
call it like I see it, and y'all make the
judgment from there. It's funny watching Speak now, which I
was a part of for two of the iterations. Remember,
I walked into something, and I walked into what Jason

(37:01):
Whitlock and Colin had, and that was old and old right.
And then I was like old guy and old guy right.
They were just going at it. They a little older
than me, I says, call them old and Colin left.
Why did Colin leave? Two reasons? One the schedule. Two.

(37:22):
A lot of land mines on this show, a lot
of land mines. Right. Working with Jason Whodlock, you're gonna
have to tippy toe a little bit sometimes. And I
ain't talking about what you say. I'm talking about what's that?
Oh God, Jason, what topic we got today? What we
doing today? Right? That's Jason Woodlock. So then they went,
you know, Colin left, I came and it was old
versus younger, not as old me. Then now we worked

(37:49):
through it and it was good, and that's when the
show had its highest ratings twenty twenty. That's when I
think it was January twenty twenty, right before the super Bowl,
the last month for the super Bowl. Because at the
super Bowl, y'all disappear. Y'all go home, y'all like I
ain't watching no basketball or no damn shows like that,

(38:10):
so you go to T and T or something. So
that was the last time Speak's been that high. Speak
for yourself was that high. And now Speak had a
tremendous September and a eleven month cycle of growth trying
to eclipse what Jason Woodlock and I did. Now bring
that up because after that February comes super Bowl, y'all gone.

(38:32):
After that March comes, pandemic. Is never went the same.
Then they go back to old versus young during you know,
the pandemic and all that afterwards, Old versus young me
at Acho. Now y'all been asking, I've been trying to
tell y'all, and this is what it is. Why didn't

(38:53):
we continue, Why didn't it work? Why weren't those ratings
with Acho and I as high as they were Willlock
and I. And why weren't Colin and Whitlock's ratings higher
than our ratings? Let me tell you this why Ocho
and I didn't work as much as y'all be swearing like,

(39:14):
oh my, oh was the best I was like, the
ratings didn't show it. Y'all never said that about Whitlock
because y'all don't like Whitlock or whatever it may be.
But Wilocke and I had higher ratings than Ocho and
I than what they have right now. But they are
better than they were with Me and Ocha. Get this.

(39:34):
So here's the thing. Why didn't it work? Because there
was a role that all these shows play. Like I said,
first thing, First wins because they play their role properly perfectly.
Colin is winning because Jason. Jason ain't gonna have reflex
on Colin, but he knows his role and Colin knows
his thing. So the point is on dispute is still

(39:54):
trying to figure out those roles. Plus they just had
that makeover. You can see the struggle, Uh carton, show
lord help me. I don't know, but I heard Tim
Hardaway killed it. I saw him recently and he loved
doing the show, so I look forward to seeing him
more and whatever else is helping him go. But right now,
the ratings are still the same. Every time I look,
they still at the bottom, right there, trying to figure

(40:15):
it out. So here's the thing about I Chow and
now why it didn't work out. Our roles were supposedly defined,
but we didn't want to play our roles. For me,
my role was supposed to be the o G. My
role was supposed to be the big dog, the veteran,

(40:35):
or whatever it may be. Now his role would then
be the BG, right, the baby gang still or whatever
you want to call in the hood, the younger guy,
but I chose it's too talented. He's a star. I
always say that, y'all ain't gonna ever twist me that
dude is talent hit. Now, y'all can talk about this personality, y'all,
you wanted it. It is politicis could look when he

(40:56):
came in as politics is over here, and I was like, dog,
I'm over here, stay there. And you know, he started
to move a little different in his politics and stuff. Whatever.
We all know his association with Oprah, We all know
his uncomfortable conversations, et cetera. Y'all went through that already online.
I've seen it. Whoa. But the thing is, we were different,

(41:17):
and I embraced that. I Cho didn't fully only because
his talent wouldn't allow him. He can't play like he
don't know, like you know, if you the VET and
then you talking to somebody where they supposed to be
the rookie, he ain't no rookie. So that's why it
didn't work, because Ocho was on a mission to be
the star he's destined to be in terms of ah, right,

(41:39):
you know all that I Cho will manipulator, damn prompter.
I mean he would make it love of that sucker,
got salute that right. So it just wasn't gonna work
because and this ain't no stephen A Max stuff. I
ain't making none up. I'm telling y'all the truth. Ocho
was too good to be like little baby gangster. He
was too good to be like that VET. I mean,

(42:00):
like the guy gotta to get receipts and gotta get
intel from the VET. And that's why it didn't work
as well. But I love our conversations. I loved what
we were doing. It's just the ratings. The ratings are
rig in a way. Y'all gotta understand how the ratings
work in some What time are you on, what's your competition,

(42:21):
what network are you on, what's the machinery in terms
of promotion? And more importantly, how are you guys blending
so that audiences can see the chemistry? Right? And if
you guys are fighting for different things, it shows right.
That's why the old First things first, remember that Chris
Carter and Nick Wright, this is doing better. And Chris

(42:44):
Carr's a beast and he was great at it. Nick
Wright was great at it didn't work. So I don't
like it when it has to be one as bad
or one is good. And I realized that. And then
when they came to me in the negotiations like we're
gonna do speak different, and I was like, what's different? Lighter, old,
so bright, high altitude flying, you know, taking shots, you know,

(43:08):
air drops, boom boom bombs everywhere, hot takes everywhere. I
was like, damn, I just left Sports Nation. And you
remember Sports Nation changed as all of these shows changed
from shel Beado and all our craziness and fun and
Colin and Max to like LZ Granderson and Carrie Champion

(43:29):
and me. Come on, y'all, that's how that went. So
I knew that wasn't long. I had to leave that
show for that. So respect to all what they're doing
over there, I'm looking forward to seeing how it all
plays out, and I wanted to clear the air on
how things are going, especially now when you can look
at speak which is now went from old versus old,

(43:51):
to old versus not as old, to old versus young
Icho and I to old no no no young versus
young versus young, and right now, that's their winning formula.
Let's see how far they go with that. So what
do y'all think that's attributed to all these show success?

(44:12):
Tell me your favorite show, tell me the worst show.
Tell me what you love about the show, tell me
what you hate about the show. But also tell me
what's up with Undisputed? Is it good? Great? Love it?
Like it? Hate it? Where is it right now? I
know it's early on them starting their reset, but let's
see where they are right now. And do you think

(44:32):
Pat McAfee's competition will ever sneak up and take the
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I autograph that, so I'll hook you up. I tag
it Rainbo teach him how to tag Gray Moo. All right, man,
let's talk about Marshawn Lynch used to tag people on
that field that woh be smoked, used to run hard.
It looked that way. Well, he spoke openly. He was
on Shannon's Sharps podcast. He was on Club Shay Shay

(45:16):
Oh Shay, talking about his past relationship with Russell Wilson,
a head coach Pete Carroll, when they were both all
of them, I should say we're with the Seattle Seahawks,
he said. I wouldn't be the right person to speak
on their relationship because I didn't funk with them, and
he didn't say funk okay, So Lynch admitted that he
didn't have a good relationship with both Wilson and Carroll.

(45:37):
He said, I ain't funk with Pete, and then I mean,
Russ was just a quarterback for me. Now he talked
about that because everybody's curious, like especially because Russell Wilson
hasn't landed properly on his feet other than getting paid
in Denver in terms of performance. So remember when they

(45:58):
were all together in Seattle, everybody was chirping, And it's
so crazy how people get it wrong. The narrative back
then was jealousy towards Russell Wilson, mar Shawn Legion of Boom,
all of them were jealous of Russell Wilson because he
was the quarterback. He was the man, he was the savior,
he was the nice guy. So all y'all that say
something against him is a hater because he's the man.

(46:21):
And I'm like, what that is so silly that happens
to me when I talk about Stephen A. Smith or Skip,
Are you a hater? I'm like, dog, how am I hater?
I'm not a hater. One, I'm not a hater, but two,
I don't compare myself to other people. But everything they have,
I've had the money, the shows, like you know, Mike.

(46:43):
I think Mike Golick was the first athlete that I
remember having a daily show you know who was number two? Yeah? Man,
you know all the money that these cats making. Now,
y'all gotta go back to early two thousand, like two thousand,
two thousand and one. I got receists like that. Only
reason I say that is because we don't like Lynch. Mob.
I know Lynch he ain't talking about he ain't hating

(47:04):
on Russell, was well, ain't. No, don't ask the question
and if you don't want the answer, because not everybody hating, right,
So uh, he was like, dog, I respect Russell as
a player and as a teammate. Quote, anything that I
say is gonna come off as malice or as if
I'm a hater. And then that just all of a

(47:26):
sudden handicaps how we hear the truth or his version
of the truth, whatever that may be. Everybody can't contribute
to the conversation because ah, you hating? Why am I hating?
Because I'm not a quarterback because I'm Marshawn Lynch makes
no sense. So I remember being in those moments back then,
because I even went to the game where Tony Romo

(47:49):
Bosta snap. I was covering the game and I was like, damn,
And it was weird because the dynamics. I knew the
real from the fake, and I knew that everything that
was said about Russell Wilson was coming from a sincere place,
authentic place. And I was like, why everybody think that
these cats hate knowing Russell Wilson. They're saying it almost

(48:13):
in unison, and they're all in different parts of this
organization or different parts of his team, the defense saying
it and the offense, and they were talking to cold
because they ain't want to be haters. So I understood that.
So now you know he's saying it just like it
is he says about Russell Wilson, about Pete Carroll quote.

(48:33):
But as far as anything else, no, there's no. You
can't pick up the phone and call old Boy or nothing.
Talking about the relationship Russell Wilson Pete Carroll. You can't
connect with them, didn't connect with him when he was
with him. Okay, So we're in this conversation not just
to break down what he said, but the dynamics of
saying it. You work with somebody, you know the real

(48:55):
on them, but they playing that role and everybody believed
that role with you, Like when they say cut, I
see that when they say, all right, camera's off. I
see that you say anything, you're the hater. It's just
like the homeboy homegirl that sees your friends significant other

(49:16):
in them streets cheating. And then you go back and
say something without like video and I mean like sexy
sexy red video, stop playing, come on ray j in
there or something right, Wait, am minute, you ain't got
that going. Then they're like, stop hating you just magaze.

(49:38):
You ain't got no man. They're like, oh god like,
and it's this dynamic going on that I don't like.
And I will always push back. Y'all call me a hater,
you can call me whatever. I will push back and
say dog re receipts now none yng and read more
receipts as they continue to pile in. But the point is,
I don't hate, and I know lynchwab I don't hate,

(49:59):
and I wish y'all would have listened to him, then
y'all would have heard the real, the dope about this situation.
So we can't say that we want somebody to come
into this real and authentic and then when they try
to give you a whiff of it, you say, oh,
I can't stand that stence a lot of people try
to blame it on the ball controversy. He was bad

(50:21):
because he ain't hit the ball. End of that doc.
Russell Wilson for the Seattle Seahawks was not someone they
believed in the person. Russell Wilson the player was somebody
that obviously was productive and it was a key part
to them winning. But y'all don't understand on the team

(50:43):
their teammates. You don't know. You don't know their name,
you don't know their life, you don't like them. All
different pools of people. Right now, if you go up
to any player and give him a team photo, I
guarantee you not a single soul ever would get every

(51:07):
guy on that photo. Right. Matter of fact, I'm a
up it. I say, over under five of a team
photo of fifty three dudes, I say, you wouldn't get
over forty eight. I couldn't. I couldn't imagine the guy
that could, Brady Ryan Fitzpatrick from Harvard. That's it. But

(51:28):
the point is I looked at these comments not to
really go in on Russell, not to go in on Pete,
because I wasn't there. I can't do that, can't go
there and say yeah, Marshan. But I'm just glad that
this distance has occurred between Marshawn Russell. Now, y'all see
Russell for who Russell is, y'all see Marshan for who
Marshawn is. You know, he has nothing to gain from this,

(51:51):
and he's still saying the same thing. It makes you
have to convert to what he was saying then, instead
of him having to all of a sudden say yeah,
I am a hater or you guys being right, not
a hater. Just kind of told you the truth, as
I always say, too early. I'm not a hater. I
just tell the truth too early. So why do you

(52:13):
think they all had that beef? To me, It's just
different personalities, Like you know, Russell Wilson is more manicured
than Marshawn. Lynch just Greatpoul Palm versus French ash yellow.
That's the mustard difference, right, So I think it's that.
And what do you think is between Marshawn and coach.

(52:34):
Coach must have told him something that didn't come true.
Usually that's when players don't like coaching, when oh you lie, doll,
I'm good like you be good on them, like, yeah,
call a play I'm good. I'm good that or the
fact that he didn't give him that ball and that
shine in that moment and didn't try to lie, but
or not that you didn't give me the ball, but
you lie about it, right you over here trying to
make up a new story tomorrow. Well it was because

(52:55):
of the time and the time was running out, and
they came out in goal line defense. I heard that
kind of sound, like how you know you hear stories
like stephen A and Max, and you'd be like, all right,
the first time you believe I believe stephen A. The
first time he said it, even though I knew I
knew the truth, I was like, all right, that's sellable,
like believe then in terms of like you're gonna get
that out there, people gonna believe it. I believe it.

(53:17):
Then you just kept listening. Nope, even if you love
him like I do, like everybody does, he's number one
right now, you're like, wait a minute, number two, the
second version, don't go with the third version, the third version,
don't go with the first version, the first version, don't
go with the fourth version. Man, stop talking about it.
Let it be So. I think that may be Marshawn

(53:37):
Lynch looking at coach like, man, you stop talking about
this damn one play and making up different reasons why
you don't give me the ball when we know that
ain't the reason. Ooh, did I bring a parallel together?
One of the best songs of DJ and I hate
to do it to y'all right now, is we like

(53:58):
the cause God that go boom, take and Bunny. I'm
not lying. If you play that at the right time,
you might lose everyone because they all gonna pass out
like ah because the base in that sucker still wrong.
I don't know what they were hitting, what drum machine
they had back then? Oh, but it was banging like

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let's go into this topic right here. I'm gonna get
in and out of this topic right here, because supposedly
we already tired of this. Yes, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelson, Yes, yeah, yeah,
I'm not tired of it, but I know why y'all

(55:03):
tired of it. So it makes me tired because I'm
tired of hearing y'all talk about how tired y'all are.
All right, So here we go. This article talked about
the growing attention that relationship is getting, and it's interesting.
I don't know if they're dating or not, and don't care,
but if they are, all right, okay, are they dating?
I mean, in today's world, you hang with somebody popular
for as long as you can. That's good. That could

(55:24):
be dating. That could not be all right. So NFL
talked about this, Travis Kelcey, Jason Kelsey, they all talked
about this, all right. So here's a few quotes out
there before I beat it up. Given the interests and
ratings that is bringing, the NFL and his TV partners
were always going to take advantage of a sudden celebrity interests.
You know, I resist this, and I'm a fool for

(55:47):
doing it. People love celebrities and people love attention. I
love people, but the attention I love is like personalized,

(56:09):
Like if we hanging out together, you're gonna be like, Yo,
Wiley crazy that's my nickname, wild Style that dude. Those
are some weird nicknames for somebody who's an introvert, because
I'm not. I'm crazy, like I really go there, but
I'm not trying to go there for all y'all receipts
because I'm old school, like dog. The best Instagram account

(56:31):
I've ever seen in my life, No lie is right here.
I protect the guilty so they all know they're good
unless they come at me. Then why y'all? But the point,
that's why nobody come at me, y'all. For real. My
IG account up in here, I got it all. Oh
my god, been there seeing it and it's crazy because
I'm like, damn. Sometimes I'm like, I wish IG was

(56:54):
out when I was doing all of this, and it'll
be out here, you know. The time I'm on stage
with Outcasts, who is the biggest selling rap group of
all time, just declare that this week I'm hanging out
with Where's that video where I got like one polaroid.
I think somewhere sucks DJ for Kanye when he just

(57:15):
steal you know, the old Kanye is y'all want to
call him, I ain't even known. That's my point. It's
all up here now. I give y'all some positive stories.
It's some crazy ones to point being NFL supposed to
lean into this. What do you think they're supposed to do?
They ain't me, They ain't like, let me just hide
out because I done did too much and nobody know

(57:36):
about it, so let me just chill. NFL, Like Nah,
Taylor Swift, yay, save us from Kaepernick, we had to
go through and we leaned into that. Save us from
Donald Trump, And we had to lean into that or
avoid whatever you want to say, BLM. We had to
lean into that or avoid like NFL was getting ragged

(57:57):
off for a few years there by everybody politics and
everybody's belief system. And now Taylor Swift is in the
building and all she does sing songs and people over
that too. Y'all can't be happy when one way or
the other, y'all gonna find a way to complain about
the NFL. So everybody's talking that craziness about it right now.

(58:18):
So Travis and Jason on their fabulous podcast New Heights
talked about it as well. They say, I think it's
fun when they show who is all at the game.
I think it brings a little more to the atmosphere,
brings more to what you're watching. But at the same time,
they're overdoing it. They're overdoing it a little bit for sure,
especially my situation. I think they're just trying to have
fun with it. Okay. Jason finished it by saying, I

(58:43):
just think the NFL is not used to having celebrities
come to the games. Basketball has to figure it out.
They're all courtside, they're sitting there. He's showing once or twice,
and then they get back to the game. Okay, now
they say that it's not like, here's another quote. It's
not like Swift was shown after every player any thing.
But seventeen shots of the suite, as the Kelsey's later said,

(59:04):
is indeed a lot of cutaways. Could it be ten yes,
could it be twenty five yes? He's saying, basically, they
kept showing that sweet more, they were showing them down passes.
They weren't showing the game at all, and all that okay,
So the NFL responded to it. NFL had to respond
to this because they're like, look, we frequently changed our
bios and profile imagery based on what's happening in and

(59:27):
around games as well as culturally. The Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelce news has been a pop cultural moment we've
leaned into in real time as it's an intersection of
sport and entertainment, and we've seen an incredible amount of
positivity around the sport. Thank you, NFL. Call me a
company man, but thank you God Lee. It is a

(59:49):
pop cultural moment, admit that, and it's a positive one
if you stop hating it ain't the other one. The
last ones we had were racism, right, Slavery is a plantation.
The NFL is a plantation, slavery plantation. Like, the NFL

(01:00:09):
been through it, y'all, Like it's okay, it's okay, brief,
let the NFL be Let them highlight some pop singer
and she hanging out with their star future Hall of Fame,
tight end and let it be. And then NFL finally
buttoned it up by saying, the vast majority of our
content has remain focused on the game, our players, in

(01:00:30):
a variety of other initiatives, including since y'all NFL in
the same position as me, all you want to talk
about us is Skipper Stephen Damo ourselves. NFL says this, Well,
we got a toy story, fun day, football all cast,
we got international games, we have more y'all watching that.
Y'all talking about that. No, they ain't even talking about

(01:00:50):
toy story. You're talking about Taylor Swift. People always telling themselves.
That's one thing I know. My coach told me that.
He say, if you want to know about people, to
listen to them. They telling themselves, even through them bitching,
even through them complaining, you can tell them like oh man,
my wife always said that when she said something about
some I don't like that. I don't like that. I
want that. I was like, why are you mad? Then?
So what you mean while I'm mad because I don't

(01:01:11):
like it? I was like, so, why are you talking
about it? You don't like it? You usually go around
giving energy to stuff you don't like it and talk
about it. Stupid man, y'all me, I ain't got time
for y'all negativity. I ain't tie of y'all negativity and
the NFL doesn't either. So y'all agree with the coverage.
Does the NFL get celebrity camera crazy? Yeah, I give

(01:01:32):
you that, but they should to a point. I don't know.
Do you agree with it? This is a pop cultural moment.
I do. And do you think most NFL fans want
to be rid of this story? Or shall they continue on?
Stop acting like you want to get rid of something,
and then you realize, damn it, that was fresh. That's
like everybody who ever goes into their closet, like I'm
giving away all these old shoes. Oo them, Jordan's too. Yeah,

(01:01:54):
I ain't warre them in two years. I now I'm
gonna keep them. No no, no, Noah, give them away? Well,
you ain't gonna wear them looking at them their stuff though, Cay,
I'll give him way soon. You give him away? What's
first thing you say? Dann it? Why I get him?
Shorgans one? You better think ahead? All right? Fuckus? Some comments, funckle,
some comics hit. I supposed to be a lunch soon. Bro.
If this is about Dion, if Dion stayed and get

(01:02:14):
the right players, he could build something like saving that Bama.
Bama didn't kick off till I think the third year. Oh,
definitely he can stay there. Definitely, he can make car
Colorado destination. He does not have to go somewhere and
carry the torch. He can stay at Colorado and light
it or relight it. All right? Uh, somebody else wrote,
I still ride with Jason Widlock too, but we beefing.

(01:02:35):
I know it's crazy, Like I don't hate anybody. It's
you say something I don't like. Why would I hate you? You?
I hate what you just say it at most and
maybe I just disagree with it. But like dog Winlocke
and Dion, Me and him when I I'm off, like
dogs Lean, Dion and Long, You're wrong on that one.
Don't down that hill. But went like, ain't dead to me?

(01:02:56):
Now you got y'all probably like you got more to
talk about. That's what this okay? C J. Stroud? Uh,
when should we? I guess you said, when should be?
You need to take the C two tests? Damnit? Ray,
You're right? When should be examining who invented the test
and what the purpose of the test was, and if
the test translates to today's football. Test is probably outdated,

(01:03:18):
similar to leather helmets. No, the test is kind of new. Damnit,
or how to read your comment. I should have known
by that. All right, let's get to Brady versus Belichick.
Bill is who we thought he was. He ran Brady
out of town. Bill wanted all the credit. You got it,
Now take credit for these also, that is a good one.
I can't lie he wanted him out of town when

(01:03:38):
Jimmy g was Jimmy g in not right now, So
it was a different time. But I understand what you're saying.
People under estimated Brady's leadership and him being the guy
that keeps the locker room together. Facts. No one would
have tolerated Belichick if Brady wasn't in the locker room. Facts.
Aaron Rodgers BS, thank you for referring it as jokes.
Skipping Shannon gets sensitive when Rogers talks about Pfiser and stuff.

(01:04:03):
We're all different, so I'm not gonna judge them forgetting
sensitive because you know, if your if your heel is,
oh care about you getting a jab or not a
pharma and Pfeiser. I don't think you got kids like oh,
Skipping Shannon, you man got you got kids. You ain't
over here talking like that. By no damn vaccine? All right,

(01:04:23):
last one mister know it all, just mad. He ain't
Dayton Taylor since he went to a concert and tried
to shoot his shot. Oh, I forgot Aaron Rodgers tried
to shoot the shot at Aaron Interesting. Damn he jealous
of Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey do got it all? He
does have every box check. There's only one other player
that I ever met that had every box check like that.
Girls used to love him too. His name is David

(01:04:44):
Ben look him up, twenty year long snapper or call
him o dB. Went to cow looked like a model.
Oh he dated Pam Madison. I forgot that told you
he checked every box I forgot that. This dude was fresh.
You know when you at the homies, just like every
one of my homegirls, they all in lung dog like
what you doing to them? Shut up? Yeah, that's my teammate.

(01:05:07):
Shut up. So that kind of all right charade? You
know how we finished every show with a Wiley is something. Yeah,
if it doesn't challenge you, it won't change you. Oh
say it again, if it doesn't challenge you, it won't
change you. That's and I was looking for. So I
was like, Damn, I ain't ever been changed by something
that wasn't challenging. I ain't got it yet. I'm thinking

(01:05:28):
like everything and challenge doesn't always got to have a
negative connotation, Like I think there's some positive challenges like
ooh my spelling bee, oh I got. I just got
chills my spelling bee I had. And then the first
time I had to take this academic decathlon test, all
these nerves like me. We all had to go to
the school and take tests against each other. And it

(01:05:49):
wasn't even that sat we were like in the fourth
fifth grade or something. I had hives. I was so nervous,
And that was a challenge and a positive right, but
it changed me. It let me know. I immediately knew
as a youngster, it's some smart people out here, way
smarter than me. So let me close the gap between

(01:06:10):
them and me, and let me widen the gap between
me and my dumb ass homies over here. Don't even
want to study talking about starter jackets. Shut up, Okay,
it's fresh. How long were we gonna talk about your jacket?
You see these feelings too, No, man, come home, they fresh.
Let's go. Let's go fifty states. What's the capitals? Let's
go Kansas, man, Lotto elast no topeka, damn it. So

(01:06:35):
we used to just get into bikes like that was
a nerve fighting for nerddom oh man. But things gotta
challenge you, good or bad, ugly, I don't know. It
just gotta make you change. Get out that comfort zone,
get out that normal space right, make you take a
step overreach, stretch out them hamstrings, as they say, coach
like you stride and stretch your milk. Baby. You gotta
do that in life, man. You gotta be challenging all

(01:06:56):
things we do. Because if it doesn't challenge you, I
ain't gonna lie. It's simple, y'all. It won't change it
all right, y'all. That'll do it. For more to it,
check the show notes for all the information on our
topics today. Today, I want to keep the conversation. Go on.
Let's talk. Find me on all socials at Marcel's Wiley
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