Ep 182: Did Sergio kill his mom?? Deion knows what time it is! Bronny vs. Lebron!! To Give is to Get!!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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got a few just thinking and brewing through them, like
I don't know the next player to get fine for

(01:06):
uniform silly stuff like that next player that does a
rapper celebration. These cats are doing like drew skis and
all that crazy stuff. I see it. I just don't
know it in the moment. That's what let me know
I'm getting old. Because it used to be a day
I was like, oh, he doing the drew ski. Whoever
the drew Ski was in ninety eight, right, But now
these cats do it. I'd be like, I need the

(01:27):
Graham to help me out. Then they got to split screen,
and then I got to read the caption. I'm like, oh,
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y'all know how we start off every show, But what's
up with that dude? Well, yesterday, the thing I love
to do the most in this world outside of this

(01:50):
home and take care of these itty biddies, is take
care of the itty biddies in the community. So I
went to Long Beacht Jordan High School and I got
a chance to meet with the boys and girls football teams.
Boys and girls. Yeah, the girls playing flag. It's official
out here in Cally. We play that. The basketball teams

(02:11):
and the track teams, which gave me, you know, pure
joy right there because track people were getting forgotten. I'm like,
I don't forget none of you guys. I respect that sport.
I think we highlighted yesterday, which was amazing just being
there in the experience with them, how real they were,
how engaged they were. We had some fun. We talked

(02:32):
about focus, the difference in focus, because I think a
lot of kids learned focused the wrong way. We talk
about competition, a lot of kids learn competition the wrong way.
And we talked about identity, which I think is the
first thing you need to have in your tool belt
if you're gonna tackle this world. Is an identity, but

(02:53):
a different version of identity. So I always talk through
that with the kids. I look at myself as a
dacode because I've been on this journey for forty eight
years and I've been from the bottom to where I
am right now. So there's no excuses you're gonna throw
them my way. I don't want to hear I don't care.
I don't care, and I don't want you to care.
I want you to care more about you and your

(03:15):
dreams than your circumstances, right, So I don't let them
get away with it. They can't tell me about gangs,
they can't tell me about drugs, they can't tell me
about broken home, they can't tell me nothing, because I've
been through all those experiences. So really just empowered when
I go to these kids and see them connect with us.
We go to them, then all of a sudden, they

(03:35):
become a part of the team. We have their information,
they ask the questions. Then they come to our check
ins and our reinforcements. Then we give them mentorship, resources, scholarship. Ultimately,
we incentivize them for being great or trying to achieve greatness,
improving themselves, being a greater version of themselves. That's life

(03:56):
around here, right. So I did that yesterday. You know me,
heart is full right now. After that, went to a
football practice. New play alert, New play alert, got a
new play. Well, these boys in trouble this weekend. I'm
about to run this play. All I'm gonna tell y'all
is I think I'm running a quad formation quads, not trips.

(04:19):
Quads on their head, we flip. My kids are discipline.
I had to tighten the screws on them. I told
them I ain't mean, I ain't never mad, but I
get strict. That means I'm ana tighten these screws. Make
sure y'all do the rules, and if you don't, there
are consequences. Got these inny bitties lining up like that.
Every single coach out there says this to me. How

(04:39):
you get them line up so fast? Forget how good
they are and we win games, we lose games. Forget
who's talented. How you get them the line up so fast?
I was like, God, I donna play that alignment assignment attack.
I give them NFL experiences. I'm like, align assign attack,
go triple A. We calling it. That car broke down

(04:59):
over there, he need triple A. My little boys be
I got little machines out there. I love it so much,
So we're gonna see how this new play works. Me
talking about it like this means it ain't gonna work.
We'll see Sunday at noon. Other than that, came to
the crib, had a piece of chill night I did.
I ordered an extra large eight about half of it.
Wife put in a little bit, but everybody's just sitting

(05:23):
there watching Transformers. My girls are into it that my
DNA is strong because my favorite cartoon growing up was Transformers,
and my kids are into Transformers. And I will say,
I'm glad it's still around, but it ain't the same.
Like it's fancier now, it's way fresher and glossier, and

(05:43):
like it's all smooth and stuff. That's cool, But when
I grew up, that's that suck. Gonna hit that sound
after his prime Megatron Jazz Bumblebee, whoa we didn't place.
Suppose it's starscream Man. Stop playing with me, y'all. Oh,
and I'm glad my kids got some of that from dad.

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All Right, So y'all know this show is powered by you,
and it's powered by Project Transition dot org. Where I
went yesterday what I'm always doing. People think that I'm
doing this show just to be talking sports, being in
the media and talking entertainment. Come on, y'all, y'all know
me better than that. I ain't leave no damn Fox
in ESPN and all that to end up just being

(06:24):
like I'm still gonna do it. I'm doing this for
the foundation. I'm doing this for the community. I'm doing
this for the global community. I'm doing this for our
itdy biddies. So yes, I'm gonna talk that talk. And
if you guys support us like you guys have been,
I will send this book to you right now. Never
shut up. I gave three books away yesterday to the
three winners and gave everyone else some memorabilia from your boy.

(06:48):
Always got to give them something, never can leave them
empty handed. So be a part of the team like
those kids already. Itty biddies are like a lot of
people are. Like Frank Adams from Alameda, California. I saw it.
Donation came in last night. Dwight breathing, thank you from Whittier, California.
What's up Whittier, Saint Paul in the house that hit
last night? Brandon Johnson from Monroe, Louisiana. We might be family.

(07:12):
I got family in Monroe, Shreveport, and Monroe, so might
be a wily somewhere in that Johnson family. Hey you
may Terra. I hope I said that right from al Hamberg, California.
Thank God, I'm hitting home. I'm getting West Coast love again. Boy,
all that East Coast love, especially. I got a bunch
of in North Carolina, the East. I was getting way

(07:32):
too much love, not too much, but bounce it out
West Coast and Dan Davenport last night. See what I'm saying,
y'all really showing up for your boy, for those iddy biddies.
And that's what I love right now is from Spring Texas. Damn.
That sounds small, but everything in Texas is big, so
up in small town tone. But salute to you, my man. Dan.
All right, let's get into this show right here. Let's

(07:53):
get into this topic right here, where former NFL player
Sergio Brown was arrested in southern Cali, resting in connection
with the death of his seventy three year old mother,
Myrtle Brown, who was found slain near her suburban Chicago home. Now,
I'm not even gonna dare to try and put this
dude on trial with the little little information and evidence

(08:17):
that I have on this case. And I hate when
people do that. I hate when we make those round
judgments and then we the same people who make those
big old round judgments because you hear four sentences about
a case and then you're the same one saying, man
what's up with this country? I thought you were innocent
to prove it guilty. Well, then where you think it's altering,
where you think it's changing, it's changing because of our behaviors.

(08:40):
Cats just go out there and indict you. Somebody put
up on Instagram posts of this, Oh, he guilty, he guilty,
he guilty, and then gonna complain that you're not innocent
to your guilty. So I'm gonna pause on that, but
I'm gonna give you some details and give y'all some
stories that hit home from me when I heard about
this case. So Brown was detained while trying to re
enter the United States from Mexico. I've been seeing this

(09:00):
dude popping on Instagram all week, like it is a
bad look. Let's say this. Okay, we get this out.
This ain't innocence of guilt. But this is like Mama,
dad and you partying hard. That was an interesting look.
Let's just say that. But everyone deals with their healing
process differently. Everyone agrees different right. So I do remember
being at my mom's funeral, like, why are these people laughing?

(09:23):
I remember the first person asked me what we gonna
eat When we got back to the house. I swear
I was about to kill na. Don't say that. I
really was gonna destroy them, like I was gonna like
I wanted to my mom's funeral, and you talking about
what mac and cheese. I was like. But I had
to remember, the world keeps spinning, so I gotta spind
with it. I gotta keep moving on. So he got

(09:44):
booked into San Diego County Jail without ball for a
fugitive arrests. He agreed to be extraduitted to Illinois, and
now he's gonna be out there until November thirteenth, the
day the authorities out there have that time to retrieve them. Okay,
exact charges against Brown unclear, but a warrant for his
arrest cited first degree murder. Now, the death was ruled

(10:08):
the homicide of his mom, Myrtle Brown, and she was
also this is kind of weird. When I read this,
it was like she was injured during the assault, and
I know, you know, watching all the detective shows, that
means she was like not just killed, but maybe there
was a fight. Maybe she was hurt first break and
then she died. You know, I was like injured during

(10:29):
her assault. Yeah, you're dead. I think that's an assault.
I think that's an injury. Right. So there was videos
of him, like I said before, him suggesting that he
didn't do this crime. He said, fake news, fake news,
fake news. It has to be the FB. I that
doesn't sound like a person who's trying to throw you

(10:52):
off their scent completely. It sounds like somebody who maybe
altered mentally, trying to throw you off. They sent, you know,
almost a boomerang throw, like you're trying to throw it
that way, but it's coming back towards you. All right. Anyway,
he says he was he was on vacations. He thought
his mother was on vacation in the Mexican state of Sonola, Sonola.

(11:15):
I don't know. I need to watch some of my
shows against Sonola Sonola. I heard of it before, all right.
So in another video posted he said, finding Nemo, just
keep swimming, just keep swimming. Look at me. I got it.
Sound like a hypocrite. I'm about to put this, I say,
to do guilty. He ain't right. All I know is
all these little references and Trump references and cartoon references

(11:40):
man project project that you're saying, project that you normal
or maybe this is part of that play. Let's see,
all right, so we know who he is. He played football,
y'all remember me. He played for Notre Dame, played in
the league twenty ten to twenty sixteen. Bunch of teams
by bye bye. Okay, So this is a mysterious one
right now, the extradition, the mysterious death, the high profile individual,

(12:05):
all this coming together. Murder death in sports. All right,
m let me take you back to the first. This
is crazy. I even got to say this. Listen to
the sentence. First time I lost a teammate because I
was thinking about this and I was like, I don't
have any teammates ever accused of murder. Had a teammate

(12:27):
get locked up ten years kingpin charges for drug trafficking,
had several teammates with that. But murder death in sports
takes me back to high school. I had a teammate.
I played pop Warner with him. It was like a
year older than me, played my same position, running back,
good good. I haven't said his name before in a

(12:50):
positive way, so I don't want to say it right now.
In this way, you got a little off course, So
like we both the same kind of do. This is
what's crazy about growing up. You grow up with somebody.
When you ate. It's hard to be gangster when you ate.
It's hard to be crazy when you ate. Right, But
you know, around adolescents, around teenage years, cats could go
different directions, right, So when we ate, we the little homies.

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I'm the fast one, kind of he almost as fast
as me, but a little bigger, thicker, but still good.
Right now, I used to look up to him, just
because the age difference. When you're eighting someone's nine or ten,
you think they like thirty, right, and they doing stuff
you can't do yet because you've only been here for
eight years. So I'm playing around the neighborhood kicking, and
see him at the park all the time. All the

(13:34):
time we get around junior high. We got a little
gap between us. I'm still balling. He's still good, not
as good, but still good. But them streets he great
at He in them streets. Get the high school, he
full fledged. He in them streets hard, he banging. And
I'm still balling. I got the knee is shoes. I'm

(13:54):
going through my ups and downs. I'm a little in
the awkward phase whatever. And we used to talk and
it's so crazy, and you see somebody who gangster like that,
and everybody scared of Mary got everybody respect them, fear
them or love them. We hate them and respect them.
You just had a response to him, and we had
a connection, cause that's the homie, the little homie, the
little homie when I was little too right, So he

(14:16):
he my dude, even though he got everybody shook, and
we used to always just talk. And I remember like, damn,
like I couldn't reach him to get him out of that,
but I could always connect with him even though he
was in that and everybody else shook on him. Then

(14:37):
one day heard came back to school. Everybody like you
heard what happened. I was like, no, what happened? Got
killed dice game? I was like, what dice? Like? How typical?
How typical was that is that? To die at a
dice game? Like when I was growing up like dice Like,
come on, man? I was like, come on for real,

(15:00):
because I'm thinking he just gave up the money, or
he take the money, or they fight, they squabble, whatever
it may be. Turns out it wasn't just the dice game.
It was the dice game that started it. And he
was like, oh, really, that's what you're gonna do. Okay,
next day. The next day somebody, a couple of cats

(15:24):
hid at his crib under some cars. They said, I
don't know this, this is street reporting. And then when
he was walking out the house then going to school,
wow like that, And I was like man, man, man,
I was like, wow, started at the same place, y'all

(15:49):
went that place. The things that affected me around murder,
death sports, like this case Kevin Copeland, that's a la
name and legend out here. Remember he got in a
car accident that devastated a lot of people. I think
Keshawn Johnson went to school with him, or at least
went to the same school, maybe a little younger. I

(16:11):
remember that just shook everybody because it was weird. Growing up,
you thought that if you played sports, you were not
only safe from the gangster, safe from the lifestyle, but
more importantly, I thought you were immortal because of your
age and the fact that you were protected from everybody
because you played sports. And when you hear somebody die
naturally or somebody get killed, you like, what the hell.

(16:33):
The only other time that I had a situation that
was kind of interesting was when I was working out
one time, and the way my apartment building was, we
had this huge like gully. If y'all know what a
gully is, it's a bunch of random ass trees and bushes, right,
So we played Tarzan down there. It's crazy. Now, I
look at my kids. I won't let my kids leave

(16:55):
the room without me looking at them and saying, what
you're doing? Stop running around that corner of that table,
you know what I mean. I used to swing from
like four story buildings. It felt like with vines and
no lie. Every other day the vine would break. You
just land just landing a bunch of bushes. Oh you
all right? Yeah, but I think those are roses. This
time crazy, right, different animal, different era. One time, I'm

(17:17):
working out concrete weights I'm here to I think it
was like ninety five pounds. I'm like trying to rep it,
oh man, And then I hear something in the bushes.
But I'm repping. I'm hearing in the bush. I got
my radio, I got my extension cord going from my
apartment all the way down Ghettle and I'm just doing this.

(17:39):
And you know, when you do this, you racket and
then you sit up. And when I sat up, I
saw them, I was like, oh no, and I was
like hmm. And he came in here. He's like, he's
like you good, and I was like you good? And

(18:01):
I put it together. I said, why are you in
them bushes? And it was something that happened down the
street and I heard it, but I ain't think it.
Then I see you in my bushes. I was like,
I ain't gonna tell you how that one turned out.
Protected guilty. But what do y'all think happened with Sergio
in this situation? It sounds like mental health some issues there.

(18:22):
I don't know. I mean, it's just a few quotes,
but doesn't sound right. And your seventy three year old
mom is dead and I don't know how you're supposed
to look, but this is not the look. Just give
me your thoughts in the comments about this case, because
I don't know enough about it to place judgment except
he don't sound right, and I know if my mama
passing away, Uh, this ain't how I would row. Oh,

(18:45):
y'all remember this one, hold it down? Boom boom boom
boom boom bo. I wish y'all had me a car
when that came out, because I remember saying to myself
playing it on my headphone, that's why I can't hear
that well right now. No Lie, I used to have
them like before beats. We used to have these swap
me hairphones I used to get from sloughs and and
all that, and they used to be so No Lie,

(19:08):
I think they were louder than beats, but smaller, right,
and I should smash them together. And I remember listening
to shut them down. I touched the five ma Mo
cried my people died on the other man love. And
that ain't the hardest part, even though Chuck used to
help raise me. Because boy, that voice, I don't know
exactly all the things that Chuck was saying. I was

(19:29):
a little young. I was like, it's kind of deep.
But boy, he used to hit me with that voice
in just that power boom shut him down, right, But
then that bass boom boom boom, boom boom boom. See
y'all got to no levels. And if y'all watching it
on the EQ, you looking like, oh snap, green green yellow, yellow,

(19:51):
red green like boom, boy, When I got me some
sounds and got me five dollars, I'll play that song
like yep. I was right for you. Guys. Man, you're
doing the right thing too. When you log on the
project transition dot org you give a donation recurrent donation,
you get that book. Let's talk about Dedon Sanders. Let's
talk about Shader this first time I ever did that too,

(20:12):
Because y'all don't mean I don't like doing fads. I'm
like antifad just because I just I think it's like,
it's not sheepish. It's just like, don't do what everybody
else does. That's the Bible with me. Though. Bible with
me has me thinking that the gates to heaven are
narrow and few come between. So maybe I'm a contrarion.
Maybe I just go against the grain. I don't know,

(20:32):
but I'm always thinking, if all y'all going left, let
me go right, because the gates to heaven are narrow
and few come between. I digress. But Deon Sanders, we
know coach Prime he's hoping the Sons Shadeur Sanders can
secure a lucrative deal related to his famous watch celebration.
Now help me out in the comments. Does he do
it every game? Because they haven't won every game? So

(20:55):
did he do it during a SC game? Did he
do it doing org you better not do it. Butter
not doing doing the orangon again. They give me that
watchful so he certainly doesn't when they win. He did
in the Arizona State game. I saw him run down
at the end of the game. I have no problem
with this. Jason Woodlocke is calling it taunting and other stuff.
That's the only person I saw go against it. He

(21:16):
going against Dion way too much. But whatever, I don't
Now I'm at the point where I don't even want
to watch it now, Like I watched Jason's show. But
when I catch when I see the Dion topic, I'm like, nah,
because you you making lemon not lemonade. So I'm like, nah,
let me So. I think it's a dope celebration. Like
everybody got their thing. I had the sack dance. I

(21:37):
was bucking the boat as they say, right my sack dance.
People liked it when I did it. I ride that boat.
Whatever it may be, everybody got they thing. Will see
people do this. I've seen all that. Was that Jared Allen,
yay all that, But this one is pretty simple and dope.
The key to a great celebration dance is get the
most out of it without doing a lot because I hate.

(22:01):
I hate. Oh I'm using hate the right way to.
When I see somebody score touchdown and the first thing
they do is I'm like, oh dog, it made me
feel like I'm watching Fame five, six seven. They let's
go and then they do some corny and choreographing. Let's
roll the boat together. Oh my god, let's all get

(22:22):
in the school bus. Which way we go? I'm like, man,
you don't mess that whole touchdown up? Give them five
points instead of six on a bs. They grown ask men,
ok cause you gotta practice that, and I don't want
to be there when y'all practicing that. Okay, should we
do the should we do the bop slat? No? No, no,
not to take not the bob slet Okay, not the
bob slat. Okay, We're gonna do what we gonna do.

(22:43):
We're gonna do what imagine that practice. I'm coaching that team.
Shut all asses down? All right? So the celebration got
a ton of potention. We already know DJ Khalen has
done it. I saw a video of Rick Ross doing
it right yup, So we know the n I L
deals out there right now, ty eat. Anything you got
that has audience, that has market, you need to bring

(23:07):
it to market and get paid, young homie, get you
better do it. So dionn is smart, Dion knows. He's like, look,
this is the moment we got to see this opportunity
financial game. Crazy enough. I was driving home just now,
on the way to do the show. And remember that,
I guess her name was viv or some delady that

(23:27):
got Donald Sterling in trouble. Remember her with the big
as visor. This reminds me of that there was a
moment when she got him caught up and he lost
the team. Those visors were synonymous with her and they
were slanging them. And I don't think she capitalized on it.
I don't think she got a signature line or her
own out there, et cetera. But I knew it wouldn't last.

(23:52):
Now that's different than this, but I knew it wouldn't
last because of the brand association her. Like you gotta think,
oh that's fresh, cause i't gonna that. The first time
I ever seen a bother that damn big little pelican
looking a little beaky. But I was like, whatever kind
of dope, I ain't want one but I was like,
I can see women rocking him, and then went away
because I think a lot of people was like, eh,

(24:13):
I don't want to be associated with her because you
know why she taping the old man up. Even though
he said wrong things, it's still a way to do
it right. Man in his private home, he basically his
group text got leaked, and like I said, if my
group text got leaked, if y'all group text got leaked,
all of us out of jobs. So I thought that
was wrong. Forget her name, vivid, Viana or something. Anyway,

(24:36):
she didn't take advantage of it. Dion trying to make
sure she do her takes advantage of it. And more importantly,
he knows his runway. Even if he doesn't leave this year,
which I don't think he is, which I don't think
he should come back next year. With all this momentum,
Heisman hopeful top program, help Daddy build this thing even
more and be the top pick potentially, because you ain't
gonna be the top pick this year. Caleb Willims got

(24:58):
that onlock top two picks kind of on lock right
over the dude over there Kentucky, So I think Kentucky.
So here's the thing, we got this going right now
where shaduur needs to capitalize on this while in college.
Now I got a chance to meet Caleb Williams, hang
out with him for a sack, go do an event
with him, and know how much he getting paid, young

(25:18):
hommy getting he got deals with Beats Allo and I
just stopped counting after that. I was like, let me
get out of your pockets. Bro. He at this event,
brought his whole offensive alignment to the event, made sure
that Beats gave them all headphones and took care of them.

(25:39):
I think because he got paid to due to the event.
You live in a high rise somewhere downtown. I usually
live in high rides downtown. After I played in the
NFL for ten years and worked on Network TV for
ten years, this sucker winning good for him. All I'm saying,
Shadu get yours here. Shador is anticipated to make even

(26:02):
more nil money. But let's talk through this process right
when you got something going, I've been here before, not me,
unfortunately on a small degree. Let me start momnd. Okay,
So when I was bucking the boat, when I was
winning the NFL Man of the Year for my community work,
and I was in the Pro Bowl, all Pro My
foundation was cracking once a god, life is full circle. Whoa,

(26:25):
that was a moment. I ain't even put it together
until now. And when I said it, I was running
my foundation and my foundation, Marcel Swally Foundation. One of
our fundraising, our guests, revenue streams, i should say, was
selling T shirts of the foundation simply charger logo, charger colors, Marcella's,
Wiley's real small foundation and things, and people used to

(26:47):
rock them. Here's what used to happen after the games.
I walk out, you know, you got that line and
people on autographs and stuff, and you talk to them,
take pictures and stuff whatever, meet their family. And I
had my little cousins and they would have boxes of
T shirts. Were doing it like two short albums out
the trunk while everybody's, you know, really excited. It's eighty

(27:09):
thousand people there, they all pumped to see you. No
better place to sell them, right, And this is before online,
so we ain't had no internet like that. So it
may have been out, but one no damn Shopify or whatever.
So anyway, boxes, I mean a truck, a truck full
of boxes all T shirts. Kind of tough manual labor too. Yeah, small, medium, large,

(27:31):
extra large, somebody over there want or large. You gotta
run back. You know. They used to do it though.
I used to give them money, and I said, smell
all these and give me the money back for the foundation.
They would sell out every game. Every time they showed
up with them boxes with shirts. They left with just boxes,
no shirts. That was it for me. But before that

(27:53):
I had seen it. Dub flute yall. Remember Fluty y'all?
Remember fluty Flakes? Remember the cereal that was in grocery
stores that they sold everywhere. How that start because Doug
Flutie had an audience. People are like, Stude's amazing, little
the little engine that could right, and those fluty Flakes
no live. People used to come up to Buffalo visit me,

(28:15):
what's something myself? Are you doing all? All? Good? Man?
It's great. I can't wait see y'all there. Involved Man,
I can't meet Doug Flutie. I was like, yeah, yeah,
that's what I love. If people ask you super quick,
can I meet your teammate? Yeah? Yeah, it's only been
a couple of teammates that the assholes like that, and
you're still gonna meet them too, but just be warned.
So yeah, meet Doug Flutie. Then they were like, can

(28:37):
we go get some fluty flakes or some of them
will have fluty flakes and make them sign the box.
I was like, wow, that's crazy. So I've seen this before.
Basically we're saying, shador, you need to take advantage of
it like this. Sean Merriman had a way before. Remember
Sean remembering like South, I ain't gonna lie. It was hype.
I was like, that was a lot of energy. Dog.

(28:59):
But he was an that zone. Get that switch. So
Sean Merriman, he's still rolling right now. He got like
a fight league right now doing this thing. Respect to
my man. But it's all this is said. All this
is you being a endorsed sir. It's one thing to
get paid to serve and endure somebody else's watch line.
If Roles call you writing you that check, I know

(29:20):
it's seven figures, you gotta take it right. But what
about this? How about you create chador Dion Like you
got your glasses, I think those are yours? Yeah, a
flashy but inexpensive kind of like a flashy Cassio and
have that sold online everywhere for filming based like, so hey, hey,

(29:43):
y'all order it, y'all get it the chador, Like, first
of all, your names sound like a watch. I'm buying
a chador, lou MJ. I know my son if he
ain't that age yet, where he watching for like the fanfare,
he just watching the game, but he's seeing Colorado play.
He see this one more time? He man. He go like, Dad,

(30:03):
I want that watch. I want a Shadure. Then you
could play in it too fancy, flashy but inexpensive. You
can have that. Go get a big dog. I want
to see you make that money. So one thing, endorse
roles and all that. But when you stop endorsing him,
or you fall off, or you don't play well, or
anything happens, or they just be like, all right, enough
is enough, they don't write you them checks. No more Shardure.

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You could be retired. You have a good career. You
can retire. You have a great college career. You ain't
even got to play it that great in the pros.
You can chadure yours hold away to millions. Let's see
that happen. All right, Damn it breaks trip It got
them old ass disc breaks. Remember that before they went
an in lock disc breaks. Oh man, all right, I'm

(30:47):
about to cheat now, y'all because I don't know lyrics
or songs. Forget y'all. Forget y'all. I never have, never
will unless it's the simplest of songs. Right, I do
not know lyrics, and it's kind of funny to do that,
but it's also like, come on, dog like show some respect.
Know what they said, they put the they pinned to pad,
they put their heart into their poetry on shin, so

(31:09):
hook them up right. So all right, y'all remember this one,
Pump It Up, Homeboy, Pump Been up o Boy. And
I used to think it said, now is the beginning
til I finished this song. But I just read knowledge
will begin until I finish this song because the rhyme
gets rougher. As the rhyme goes on, you sweat as

(31:29):
you stepped about to get hyped, y'all remember that part.
And then he said listen to the man on the mic.
Then it went boom. All them hits on that song,
I mean, on that album, all them hits I got
sould Yeah, yeah, I know my melody, I know, I
know I paid him for I know, I know as

(31:51):
the rhyme goes on. It's still for me. The hype
this one sometimes my melody when to go. You hear
that whistle, feel like you damn here in the West,
to the movie and draw down on somebody John Wick,
you hear that. Hey, we're gonna do that one another time.
But uh, damn, I love that album. That's a classic
album right there, Go to Project Transition Out or damn,

(32:12):
I love that Foundation. That's a classic foundation. Leave a
recurrent donation. This book is yours, and I hope y'all
read it for real, Like I'm not reading these lyrics
right here, it's right here on my phone. I'm tripping,
all right. Listen about Lebron James, Lebron James and Bronnie
James and Savannah is her name? Thank you guys in
the comments. I need y'all, y'all my brain. I ain't

(32:33):
gonna ever get up here in front like I know
it all. I believe in the wisdom of the crowd.
None of us is smart as all of us, none
of us is as smart as all of us. So
I will always lean on y'all, and I don't give
a damn. It doesn't hurt my feeling on my ego.
I am not insecure by how smart I am wink.
All right, So there's a user talking about Bronnie james athleticism.

(32:56):
We got the video and stuff. I saw it. I
was like, okay, and they were asking about Lebron's sons athleticism.
Now here's the thing that's crazy about it, he wrote back,
talking that smack talking that real too. Exactly. He's definitely
just as if not right there at his age. The

(33:17):
casual is just like to argue about poop. They literally
don't know about Lebron James responding to the comparison between
his son and his own athleticism. Now, let me just
stop down on this moment and not be hypercritical. But
Lebron has to understand this, and I know he does,
but maybe because of the volume of criticism he gets,

(33:39):
he may think it's way greater than it is. When
I heard somebody compare Lebron's athleticism to Broni's. I'm not
a lazy fan and I'm a former athlete, so I
get you can be different levels of great in terms
of performance in terms of results, but y'all can be

(34:00):
the same athletically and y'all could be different sizes in
the same athletically, right, Like people who have been around
sports get that, Oh, he as good as him in
terms of athleticism, but he ain't as good as him
when it comes to turning out on that field. Right here, example,
Tom Brady is regarded as the best quarterback ever, right,

(34:20):
but not in terms of athleticism. Steve Young's a way
better athlete to him. John elway way better athlete to him, right,
But Brady closes that gaps or passes them. If you
say what people talk about in terms of accolade terms
of results, that's my point. So it ain't about how
good you are. I ain't saying Bronni as good as Lebron.
I'm saying he's athletic at the same age at Lebron was.

(34:43):
And here's Lebron also saying this. I'm going with here,
Burpot two say Bronni just as an athletic, or if
not more than bron was at his age, isn't wild.
He's doing this at six foot two inches, not six
foot eight, So that's the difference. Six inches shorter than
his dad. Daddy was six ' eight at yeah nineteen, Yeah,

(35:05):
he was in the league already, right, crazy man, So
Lebron is out there, you know, as a dad should,
but also clarifying, But I wanted them to know that
people me, other people looked at because they went to
see Erra Kanyon Shout out to Sei Errak Kanyon, shout
out to Jim and Dina, who are my friends, neighbors

(35:26):
and also run that school. He used to go there, right,
we all get it. And watching those games as I
saw this dude got something there, you know, and it
was sad because you know, no matter what he does,
it's that Oh, but the cherry on top is your dad.
And I wish kids would be like, yes, I wish
kids would own it instead of trying to deflect and

(35:49):
to try to distance themselves from that MJ. If MJ
is anything near BROWNI or more, I'm like, yes, you
better run with your name. Yes you're a Marcella's Vernon
Wiley Jr. Yes, your daddy made it. Yes you can
make it. I want him to own that and then
be like, y'all go try and make me feel bad
if my daddy got a head start, I got a

(36:11):
head strut and my daddy was there, or you think
I'm not good because my daddy was good or not
as good because it's just my DNA sound like jealousy
to me. I hope my son is never leading with that.
But when they push at him or when they flex,
tell him, I got next, you flex, I got next?
Go ahead, flax, no, say what you gotta say my turn.

(36:34):
You know my daddy is right, Lebron. Guess what our
dinner table conversations sound like, homie, a little different than yours,
cause we talking big money, we talking big game over here, Like,
what's the point of having all this, what's the point
of doing this in your kids going? You're right, I
haven't earned anything. I was born on third base. I

(36:55):
hope my son's born on home plate. He ain't even
got to run for the home run. Just go out
there and get them point man, stop playing. Y'all gotta
empower these kids. Stuff that anyway, So there's a focus
and discussion on athleticism and all that. Now let's talk
about these second generation athletes, because y'all know the whole narrative.
There are exceptions, but there is a rule. There's a
rule that good athletes make great athletes. If you're talking

(37:19):
about first second generation. But great athletes only make good athletes.
They talk about how there's a Barry Bond senior and
then there's a Barry Bond's junior. Right then he also
talked about there's a Michael Jordan and then there's a
Michael Jordan's son. So that means mj got a chance

(37:43):
because there's Marcel and there's junior. Man, tell you my
daughter is the one too. She's silly. But now, in
all seriousness, there's a lot of them like that. I
don't want to do Dale Curry like that, but people
always throw his name up in there. I'm like, oh, okay,
well Steph Curry, Steph Curry, whatever you want to say
about Dall you wasn't that, So I give you that,

(38:03):
all right. So the point is, I'm seeing so many
of these kids now. Carlos Boozer and the Boozer Twins
shout out to Carlos saw him recently, Man, it's my guy. Well,
I'm sixteen or both of them sixteen. I don't know.
I saw him play once. I God, dang, they in
high school. Hell, Matt Barnes, I see his little boys
out there. Now they're teenagers. They getting it Chris Paul

(38:25):
see his boys out here all the time. Reggie Bush,
my guy, my coach on my team. That's my guy.
Is son, both his sons, both his sons, the little one,
his big one, sick, his little one. He need to
be admitted. That boy, that boy move. I'm about to

(38:48):
give him the ball this weekend. He hasn't got the
ball yet cause he's like six young six two. Maybe
he's struggling to keep up with eight nine year rows
in terms of like attention. But boy in it. And
when he get the ball, yan yan yan yan yang,
I'm like, I gotta see that in the game now.
So he gonna get the rock. We'll see. But the
point is, yeah, it's the DNA, but it's also the

(39:11):
intel intelligence. I tell this story. We're MJ super fast.
MJ's always gonna be one of the biggest, but he
usually is the fastest. So number one is speed and
top three always in size. It's a lot, but he
you could be the fastest around your team and your kids,
them kids everywhere, that's fast, them kids coming from everywhere.

(39:33):
So you're playing another team that kids fast too. He
got the angle. This is the difference. This is what
Bronni gonna gain as well. We're watching film one time. Yeah,
my son is eight years old and at the time
seven were watching film, not like deep in no dark room.
I'm just like, look at my phone, check this out.
You try to out run that little fast boy boy.
Don't you know that boy bow legging you ain't you

(39:56):
ain't going nowhere. No bow legging kids. Oh man, i'm'a
screaming a loud Oh if he bow like and his
mama allowed, you keep faster than you say, bo, you
catch it. So anyway, my son tried to run the sideline.
That kid ran sideline, ran out of you, ran out
of field. Then all of a sudden he gets you
got your flag. I said, this is what we're gonna do.
We're gonna sit him down. Next time you see where
the sideline is, don't go towards that, go towards him.

(40:18):
Sit him down. Then use that sideline to your bantage.
You know, you send him down. Once you sit him down,
you're gonna feel which way to go, but typically it's outside.
But sit him down first. And I was like, once
you do that, you ain't gonna never catch you. Okay, daddy,
no lie, next game he did it. No, lie, next
game after that, that night we sitting in we sitting there,

(40:39):
sitting in the bed about to go to bed. I
was like, look, you did it. And I said, and
I start doing this, you know on your phone when
you make that that little thing. And then I said,
look at his feet, little kid, both feet in the
air because he sat him down. Come on, man, now,
I bring all this up because it's interesting. That's in

(41:01):
part one of the pillars of my foundation, sportsmanship, the
S and five's is sportsmanship. We have a program called
Everyone's Coach. Now, this program's gonna be robust, but this
program is basically all of my professional athlete friends, my network,
former pro athletes, and collegiate athletes going back to the

(41:23):
underserved communities where these kids are being forgotten or don't
have the same resources, don't have that s that first
generation dad who made it, don't have that specialized training
and coaching, and we're going back and giving them these
little kernels of truth, these little gems. We giving them
all the jewels and gyms so they can shine just

(41:44):
like a MJ. Or Reggie Bus's son who lives out here,
who has a lot more in terms of resources. So
when you guys donating support, that's where it's going as well.
But everyone's coach is to make sure that me remember
me nineteen eighty three, growing up all slosson, living in Overhills,

(42:07):
going playing in Inglewood, Grandma and Compton me, he don't
get forgotten. He doesn't get forgotten, he doesn't get left behind.
He gets jewels. I ain't get any jewels like that.
I got. My coaches were great coaches. I was blessed
great coaches that got me disciplined. But jewels like the
game to fight like, eh, I was talented. I was talented.

(42:30):
So I just saw this story right here, and I
was like, it's interesting to see that Browny's gonna be
able to not only get daddy's DNA, but get some
of that game from daddy as well. So y'all see
the highlight and does he look better athletically or the
same athletically or worse athletically? And then his dad at
six ' two versus six eight, And let's talk about

(42:51):
that heart issue. I don't want to bring that up
right now on this topic, but y'all beat it up
in the comments. Y'all open, okay with him ain't again
if you're having to be the team to sign them
NBA or y'all, like, man, I don't know about that.
You got a little apprehension. I want to see what
the general public thinks about that boom boom? Who knows

(43:17):
that song right now? Just based off my bbox? I
bet nobody? All right, do it one more time. I'm
rhyming and design and also debating the soul fresh rod
that Nomic ben hated by sucking EMC who choosing me lightly? So,
I tell y'all know any lyrics, but I know the
rhythm that's that MC light stop stop look, look listen,

(43:41):
Oh man, y'all need to stop looking, listen and get
into Project Transition dot Organ. Get into this book right here.
Never shut up, you guys. Leave a recurrent donation. It's
yours topics today. I got a little bonus topic right
here because I was just full, My heart was full.
I wanted to spread some joy. Let you know how
it feels to just be a part of this community.

(44:03):
And went to Long Beast Jordan yesterday talked to all
those high schoolers, and it just reminded me, man to
give is to get to give is to get the
feeling that I get when I come back from those talks.
It's like twenty c four's, ninety eight celsis and twenty

(44:23):
five Starbucks orders. I'm like, godly because you go through
this to give it back to somebody so they don't
have to go through it the same way, the same
level of resistance, the same adversity, right, And there's a
huge importance on giving back. And I learned this when

(44:43):
I was in college. Let me give you this short story.
Went to a homeless resource center and worked as a
work study job in the summer. I had one family
in particular, twenty four years young. She had five kids.
Twenty four she had five kids, and they were homeless.

(45:08):
This is in ninety four, nineteen ninety four, and I
remember just sitting there at the desk. My job was
sitting at a desk and being a counselor. I'm majoring
in sociology at Columbia minors psychology. Wanted to be a
school teacher, and I'm like, nothing better, nothing more fulfilling
than me just getting into the community and seeing how

(45:31):
the kids are. And we only worked with actually twenty
four years and younger. That was like the age limit
and I remember the first time she walked in there.
I think her name was Maria, and I saw her first,
and the craziest thing, like, you know, when I sized
her up at first, I didn't see all the kids.

(45:52):
I sized her up. I was like, she looks like,
well taken care for us to be a homeless resource center.
And her coming in now, I gotta remember my experiences.
I got cats coming in there that are tweaking. I
got cats coming off of bench. I got cats coming
in there. I mean, it's just foule all the way around.
But you still got to treat them like a decent

(46:13):
human being, all of them. I don't care what now.
There were times you had to take different measures, but yeah,
somebody coming in there, stinking, bleeding anything on them, you
still had to make sure you connected with them. But
she came in, I was like interesting, and then look
behind her. One, two, three, four, five kids sat down,

(46:39):
signed in, got their sandwiches which we used to provide
with them, and then the resources to get them into
stable home, stable situations. And she was getting towards that
age limit because she was twenty four limit twenty four,
she was about to age out, and I remember just
talking to her, and it was the wildest thing ever
talking to her, seeing how far we lived the part

(47:02):
and look, I'm in college, I ain't winning. I go
to Columbia in New York, but I'm in LA and
Hollywood at the homeless Resource center called my Friend's place
at the time, and I'm just talking to her like, damn,
I ain't got five dollars to my name, really, but
you don't have anything, and you not wearing it. I

(47:25):
swear she would do a magic on me, y'all. I
was like, you're not wearing your stress, You're not wearing
your despair. You're not wearing that you got five kids
and you don't have a place to stay. And she wouldn't. Man,
she would come in there. I wouldn't say every day,
but a lot. And you know then obviously going to

(47:48):
the shelters as well with the kids. But I know
people that are single parents. They got one kid in
losing that damn mind, and they got a house and
they got a roof over their head, they got food
and they wearing it. And she never wore. But then
she was planting those seeds in those moments for people

(48:09):
like me to continue to try and spread that same
joy despite circumstances. That's where I learned that from. Now,
you don't have to wear it. I know you get it.
That's why I laugh at cats, And I say laugh loosely.
I mean, I am not intimidated. I'm not getting punked,
not giving in. I'm not hearing it. When somebody's going

(48:33):
through quote unquote hell and they want me to know
how hot it is, I'm like, I don't want to
know how hot it is. I want you to get
up out of that hot get up out of that heat,
and get somewhere and spread that joy. You know. So,
I just wanted to remind y'all man how important it
is to give and to remember to give is to get.

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All right, y'all, let's funk up some comments, funk up
from comments. Yeah, all right, let's go to Jordan, he said,
with all due respect, I can I can't stand Colin.
You an't like Colin cow hurt. That's a you problem.
His takes make skip Bayless's take seem one hundred live hope.
All is well? Yeah, all is well, Cluton mccollin. I
like Colin. I ain't gonna turn my mind off Colin.
I like me Colin. Colin was the same dude Dubton Lamar.

(49:19):
Dudes like him don't believe in player development. A lot
of analysts had doubt about Josh Allen, but once he
got digs, he became an elite quarterback. Okay, your favorite
sports media and analysts broadcaster host is not perfect. We
all get them wrong. You too, So if you don't
like Colin just because he got Lamar Jackson wrong, maybe

(49:41):
there's something else to it, because I mean, especially Lamar Jackson,
take the race part out of it, because that's when
you get clouded. If you're just saying Lamar Jackson he's
gonna be great or not. It was okay if somebody said,
I don't know, it'll be okay, just like it's okay
if you said that about a traditional pocket passer or

(50:02):
a white quarterback. What's all the variables, black, running, stationary, white.
You have doubted every one of them types, I hope
if you really being real about it, think everybody thought
that every running quarterback was gonna be Bombay, come on, man,
HiT's talk about dak and honestly wouldn't do any good
to get rid of that. If you bring someone else in,
there is going to be a learning curve and then

(50:22):
that's when you'll find out if another quarterback can play.
Team is going to have to self evaluate their self
and think self evaluate was enough and recognize their deficiencies
and improve them. Yeah, you sound like you ain't got
an answer. Sound like a coach. Oh God, we gotta
work harder. Shut up, draw up a better play, coach,

(50:43):
get a better player. Put my hand up me too,
You know what I mean? Stop that. Cowboys fans, Oh,
there's they got rid of Zeke now it's trying to
issue Dak's notice keeping in one hundred, y'all trying to
get rid of that. It's interesting. And teams do not
like B minuses, like they'll get rid of a B

(51:04):
minus to shoot for that A. You know, if you'll
be they'll hold on. If you'll be plus, of course,
and obviously a's but if you a B minus, they're
like you too close to average. And Dak ain't average,
but too close Right now where he played that that
forty nine A game hurt. That was the first time
I'm not gonna lie my sports media career that I
looked at Dak Prescott was like, hey, I hear what

(51:29):
y'all saying a little bit saying, all right, you ever
see that your uncle? Ever do that? You say something
your uncle way early in the morning, and in the
afternoon it happens you goes like this. Yeah, you're right,
You're right. That's how I feel about Dak watching them now,
all right, I hear y'all Shacker Lebron. The NBA ows
Lebron for being putting proof free, y'all. I can't read, y'all,

(51:54):
can't write. The NBA owls Lebron for putting in twenty
one plus years and twenty three years when it's all
said and done, and he has been to facing the
NBA arguably since twenty ten. I love Shack, but I'm
going with Lebron. Good point, great point. They're indented. Is
this Lebron PD thing worth talking about? Seems like the
NBA is really trying to keep this quiet. Love the show.

(52:16):
The PD thing ever about Lebron was a long time ago,
and I ain't hear much about it, So I don't know.
I don't go in rabbit holes. I fall in them,
but I don't intentionally walk into him. You get what
I'm saying. Shack has his annual fundraiser for his foundation
here each year. Just happened last week as a matter
of fact, So Shaq is established here. I agree, Shaq
and the food in Las Vegas will be crazy. I
wouldn't call him once a year foundation event established here,

(52:39):
But you know who doesn't go to Vegas? And Shaq
got ties there? Lebron got ties there. Lebron there for
Summer League every year. I'm sure they probably got a
little condo over there. Maybe try to play it all
for tax purposes and stuff. You know, Come on, man,
I just think that Shaq's personality matches it more. But
that doesn't really give him a great head start in
terms of the business. Let's talk about Jones, who Mac Jones,

(53:03):
Colin and Nick Wright seeing be more free when their
character assassinated white quarterbacks. Colin says he likes quarterbacks with
short hair, but won't dare say anything. A boy Lamar
cj Or Fields is here. Why did I read that comment?
Listen about this? Mac Jones was over evaluated. Do the
plan that Alabama with superstuds Belichick failed for Belichick is

(53:23):
probably trying to have one more winning season before retiring. Yeah,
that whole Alabama quarterback thing. I mean, you can say,
Jalen hurts, but he ain't finished there. But point being,
I hear you to a finish there, Uh huh, y'all
better stop playing? There we go? There you go, Nick,
you got two and a half kind of one and
a half Eric Rodgers, Eric Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady,

(53:45):
Tony Brady and Matt Jones and Rusty Wilson. Oh, some
of my favorites multiverse quarterbacks. Oh you being funny Mac Jones?
Ain't it now? I can definitively say that right now.
Not for New England, not what they level the weapons. Oof,
that ain't gonna get it. That is that is ham
no Burger. They ain't got it. They got a good
coach and that's it. He ain't got what he needs.

(54:07):
All right, y'all know how we finish every show. We
finishing with a why ism? Yeah, sponsored by bet us.
Let's say that right, Go to beat us or go
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(54:28):
you want to get under my skin, throw a pity party,
in front of me and see what I do. I
come through there like snoop, stomping the buildings. Shut your
little pity party, hav an ass up. I wanted to
see that. Come on, man, every breath you take, every
step you make, you got a new opportunity. So I

(54:49):
don't like. I don't allow pity parties. I don't throw
it for myself. I ain't gonna let you throw one now.
Doesn't doesn't mean I don't tend a few doesn't mean
I don't just walk into my own a few times.
And I try to damn this to get up out
of there. Why because I see too many people that
actually enjoy feeling bad. You ever see somebody like that
when they're sick. They want you to know they're sick.

(55:10):
Ooh ooh man, that's a bad one. Oh yeah, I
hate these people too. I hate people that they feeling bad.
They're like oh oh oh oh, And I'm like, you're
a right, Oh no, I'm okay, I'm good. You need

(55:35):
to think no, maybe you can give me some soup. Okay,
I'll get you some soup. Then I start making the soup.
All right, you all right, big dog? Why am I
making soup for a dude. You alright, and then you
see every reach with the remote me like this chilling,
Like some people just feel good feeling bad and I
hate it, Oh, I hate it. It might being people

(55:56):
that like they always they say you ever missing word?
Somebody go ooh what man? Or they waiting for you
to say what? They waiting for you to just be
like what you laughing at? I never do that around me.
And see how long I leave your ass hanging. He
don't want me to know. He adn't say my name,

(56:17):
he bring me into it. Maybe I'm a buttthole for that,
but I'm not helping you out now. If you say
I myself, you see that what all day? But if
you're going I ain't got nothing for you reminds me
of people who just want to feel good feeling bad.
Something's going wrong in your life, fix that thing. Every
problem got a solution built into it. Yep. On the

(56:39):
other side of that adversity is the solution is the
goal right, It's like football goal line stands. You ever
seen the goal line defense? He ain't kind of hard
to get through. It's hard to throw, it's hard to run,
it's hard feel shorter, shrinking all that is true like
in life. However you get through their touchdown points. You

(57:00):
gotta get through it right, and ain't nobody tripping there.
You feeling good, feeling bad like, oh my god, this
is not gonna work. Oh my god, stop throwing that
pity part of y'all. And remember check people, check yourself.
Don't feel good feeling bad? All right, y'all gotta do it.
For more to it, check the show notes for all
the information on our topics today today. Want to keep

(57:22):
the conversation go on, Let's talk. Find me on all
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