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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Firm from from from from from from from from from from.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah. I know this is like taboo. This is bad
to come into a show with low energy, but y'all
know what happened to me yesterday. Y'all watch that game
from from Golly whoa. Can we play a little better
football at the end of the game. Ah, we be
undefeated if we just finished the games. Good lord, these Chargers. Ah,
(00:50):
y'all know, I'm gonna talk through that now, but I'm
also gonna give y'all some love. And I need some
love today because yesterday hurt. And this has never shut up.
Where we talk lessons through sports, not football, necessarily not
playing foot football at the end of the game. Stop
throwing picks, stop getting up sacks, stop throwing the ball
out of bounds. Undefeated three games we lost just like that,
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we got prop bets and just money line. I'm keeping
(01:56):
it simple. I'm gonna tell you gonna win, who gonna lose?
Like yesterday I said everybody, Cowboy's gonna win, no idea.
Oh man, don't bet on me, bet against me. You
might win some money that way. All right, y'all, I
know we start off every show with what's up with
that dude? Well, yesterday was game day in the Wiley House.
Good day any dogphs in house? Any dogson. However, my
(02:20):
kids are competitive. I ain't that competitive. Don't let me
fool you. I'm giggling through everything I do, even on
the football field in the NFL. I had jokes my
kids about that life. They get serious. I told my
son yesterday, I say, you know today, were going to
the game today, let's go. He doing his bottle flip dude,
(02:41):
whoever that guy got him, saying let's go? Is he
do that? Let's go? All right? And then he told
his sister, the four year old, that she can go.
She said, it's game day. She went like this with
her hair. She started flinging her brains a rest ah,
She's like, okay, ran to get her jersey and stuff.
Now we have another child in the house. Are three
year olds. He ain't going them. Yellow jacket securities will
(03:03):
work overtime. If she showed up in the game. She
can't sit still. She don't know how to act. She
got this little demon like quality sometime like Chucky from
child play, where nothing I say is nothing I say
makes her stop. I'd be like Olivia stop, Olivia, no
more ya ya. So she ain't going to game till
(03:23):
she get that little demon out of her. Anyway, they
ran right to her room and told her we going
to the game to day. You can't go because you
don't listen all the time because you're too young, but
you'll get there one day. She was like, a daddy,
I can't go to the game. I'm like, you can't
cry every time. You're not going to the games right now.
They didn't go to the games when they were your
age either, so hilarious. But anyway, we went to the game, man,
(03:45):
and the first thing riding up, no lie, We riding
my kids watching the little TV in the car, and
then they looked up. They said, a lot of cowboy fans. Daddy.
I was like, yeah, yeah, you gonna see a lot
of cowboy fans, just like we don't see any charge.
They were thinking about taking off their jersey and they
chaining all that. I was like, come on, y'all, ain't
how it goes. They're the road team. La is a
(04:07):
better city than Dallas had to do that, and they
wanted to come out here on VAK right. Anyway, it
was a good game. I can't lie because it was
close competitive. Herbert was off and that's hard for me
to say because I love me some Herbie, but Herbert
was off and those were points, a lot of points. Coaches, coach.
(04:28):
If he don't do better, he gone. You already know.
So I ain't even gonna try and kill him or nothing.
It's just too much gambling, too much talent, too much
wasted opportunity. You know he gonna be going if he
doesn't fix this. Anyway, this is not personal, But Herbert
wasn't Herbert yesterday. I don't know why was it the
broken finger? On the off hand, I'm trying to think
if I'm a football quarterback and like, do I need
(04:50):
this hand? I noticed it? Look at this, I noticed
this thing crooked? Okay, but do I need it? Because
he just missed too. Herbert throws dog dimes and he
was throwing Nichols yesterday. I was like that, ain't it
all right? So anyway, only other thing that happened in there,
other than getting bashed by it was a lot of
Cowboys fans like eighty twenty ninety ten, it felt like,
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but it wasn't the same in terms of the noise,
Like they weren't overwhelming us with the noise like Raiders
games when they do something it's loud. Steelers game's loud.
I ain't catch that with the Cowboys, but they were deep.
They were deep. It was insane. My wife. The only
other thing is my wife is such a nice lady supporter,
(05:34):
but she's she's not even passive aggressive. She just won't
say what she really feels, and she'll leak it out,
which is I guess classic passive aggressive. But she doesn't
leak it out in a negative way. It just comes
out in all these weird versions like this. So my
wife is over where we sit. I have eight season
tickets that are right there in the front row of
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the end zone. Why because I wanted the NFL experience.
Why because when I played in the NFL, I was
jealous of the fans up there pounding drank, banging dogs
and just chilling. I was like, wait a minute, I
got a stinger in my neck and a suckle over
there taking a double to the head, and I'm like,
(06:15):
one day, baby, I mean, these sacks feel cool, and
making this run tackle behind the line of scrimmage amazing,
y'all cheering for me. I take it, but damn I
take a double too. So soon as I retired, I
remember the day I knew I was gonna do this.
I was in Kansas City. We were playing the Chiefs,
going down that little pathway to the whole stadium where
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they're all barbecuing and tailgating, and it's just red and
smoke everywhere. Just everybody got on red and everybody barbecuing.
And I remember looking at people in their eyes and
they were just sitting there like and they beat us,
and they were just like, this is amazing. And I
remember in that moment it just sustaining my I said,
I'm gonna tailgay hard when I get done with this.
(07:04):
I'm a party hard and watch the NFL games. It's
so fun to be at the game without pressure of
playing in the game, win and lose, Chargers, I'm still
gonna go home. It's gonna be the same reality. Ain't
like when I played. That was a whole different reality
when you won or lost. So I love going but
I sit in real seats. Yeah, my wife calls him
gin pop bougie. I was like, she'd be like, yeah,
(07:26):
he likes sitting in gin pop. But basically me and
I like being around the fans, the crowd, talking to people.
People come up to me selfies, what's up? Love, I
just do it like I love it and our wife
yesterday she leaked again. So we're sitting there and I
can feel the pressure and she want a sweet. Sorry,
I kind of buried the lead. She wants to sweet
and she don't want to say it, and I'm like,
(07:48):
I don't want to do it, but she like this.
So Mariah's getting tired. This a night game. She's starting
to lay down do this. I was like, you about
to go to bed? She said, I said, this is
a good game. She said. She was like tired, so
she laying on us. We're watching the game, and then
my wife was like, yeah, she's tired. She's kind of
tired of just laying here in these seats. Probably probably
(08:10):
want to stretch out in the suite or something. I say,
we down three? Can I live? So stipid, So all
of basically, if y'all ever see my screen shots and
my selfie shots changed to a suite. She won, But
right now I am winning that game. Like the Cowboys
beat the Chargers. I don't know why I cared too
(08:33):
much because I'm a Cowboy too as well as the Charger.
So it was fun to see it. All man, good
game though, I give it the Cowboys that they needed
that game. We needed it too, And I know coaches like,
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the team to help Project Transition grow and go. Let's
do it, all right, Let's get to the first topic
right here. This might be the criminal show. Right here.
We got a lot of bad stuff happening, rotten dirty
right now. We saw the Rams starting cornerbread, I said,
starting corner back for the lost Angelus Rams. Derrion Kendrick.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
D D.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They call him a little DK growing up. He got
arrested in La twelve hours after beating the Arizona Cardinals
on the football field. All right, pulled over by law four.
Ye all right, who ain't no worst feeling in the world.
What is worse than this feeling other than physical pain
when you hear when you hear a siren and it
(10:00):
ain't complete, you be like yesterday, I was at a
red light, no lie on my phone, red light on
my phone, and I look and it was a cop
and he was looking at me like this, and I
was like, he was like he might be looking at
me like, boy, you better not take off of that
light in that phone by light you up. So I
(10:22):
was like, nah, man, all good, I'm not violating anything,
but Kendrick, you were. They pulled you a record burst,
pulled off her. And then every time I pull I
pull over fast, I'd be like. They'd be like, no,
keep going, keep gone, try flower traffic pastor like her guard.
I was like, you ain't gonna try to set me
up for no damn high speed chase. I ain't going nowhere.
(10:44):
So I just sitting there right and then always roll
the windows down, all music off, car off. I know
why do people resist this part being stubborn? Oh I
got rolled the window down. Oh I gotta put my
hands up here. Oh I gotta turn this down. Oh
I got you the car. I'm like dog you want
to get shot up, dogs, do all the stuff you
(11:05):
think he may want. How about that. Let's start there.
So now I'm all like this, I'm all locked in.
I'm like I'm at the DMV right drivers training, I'm ready.
And then you know he like, uh, license registration. But
with Darien Kendrick gets what happened? Licensed registration? Sir? Can
we see your car? Search car? Guess what they found?
He had a traffic violation that turned into a gun
(11:26):
and marijuana charge. Good this right, Dirty two fourteen in
the morning got a felony charge of carrying a concealed weapon.
Will rams no comment, of course, what can you say
bother than damn ignorant? What else they gonna say? And Kendrick,
we know he is? He a ball or two? He's
pretty good. Twenty twenty two Draft already caught up in
(11:48):
this riding Dirty NFL made me think about let me
not judge, because I've been in that position before. Now,
this is what's crazy about life. When you do something
and don't get caught, and then someone does the same
exact thing and doves get caught. You could say grace
and mercy, but then are you really thinking this universe
(12:10):
is showing favoritism like that. I'm just asking the question
because sometimes I want to say yes, and then I'm like,
but why am I special? When that person not special?
Then I'd be like, nah, I don't think you that
high on the horse, brother, Like, don't think you that guy?
You know? So then I'm like, but why do he
get caught? And I ain't get caught because I used
to ride around with a gun concealed weapon. I used
(12:31):
to ride around the gun now, not marijuana. I didn't
do marijuana. Drank yeah, check the trunk his bud likes
not now, but back then, right, So I had that
drink back there in the trunk. I'm like, we going,
We're gonna go. We ain't have door dash when I
was growing up. We gonna. I'm bringing the drink dog.
We ain't ordering nothing. And if you ain't got it,
I got it. That's how we used to roll. But
I had that thying in there. Now. I've told this
(12:54):
story before buying that gun because I was young. I
was scared because I was like, people get robbed and
killed where I'm from, and they ain't got no money.
Imagine if you got some money, I thought, I was
gonna be a real target for real. My boy talked
me into it, and I ain't put up much resistance
From that point. I'm riding around Buffalo for a couple
of years dirty, taking it into the facilities. Yes, in
(13:17):
the car, never got pulled over, never got searched, never
got discovered. But the point of it is I never
got in trouble. I never got caught. He did. I
don't know explain that beat that up in the comments.
I literally don't know what that dynamic is with belief.
I can, I can guess, I can hypothesize, but I
(13:39):
don't know for real, Like is there something to it?
Because I see that happen a lot, right and vice versa.
I've been caught for some stuff and you ain't got
caught for I know how the gang go, don't trip,
but why carry it? I think in commonality me, Garrion,
anybody else whoever gets caught up like this, is that
you really, at some point don't think or feel connected
(14:03):
to the consequences whatever that is. You could call that
a lack of exposure, ignorant, stupidity, foolishness, you can keep
naming them, but I'm telling you I've been in that
position before, where I had it all on the line.
I'm in the NFL, I'm a second round draft choice,
I'm playing, I'm balling, and I'm still doing something that
(14:23):
could sacrifice and compromise it all because just get rid
of all of it. Weird, right, You ever been in
that position, like you're doing something. I guess most people
cheating would be the one like what I just saw yesterday,
don't cheat on the one you want to keep with
(14:45):
one that you don't want at all. They said it
way better than that, but basically, watch out because you're
gonna have to be with the one you cheating with.
You want that. You may want to hit that, but
you do you want that. So that was the point
of it, right Ah, Other than that, Like I don't
know what people do in common. That is just like
everyday dog, you're really giving it up. But then you
(15:06):
watch the news like I can't believe that dude had
that great job and he ended up doing that on
the side, Like it's just a weird dynamic with human
beings where you could have it all, you work forever
to get it all, You got to that place and
you do something so silly and meaningless like this has
no meaning in his life right now, riding around the
streets with a gun. We gonna do y. I'm just waiting, dog.
(15:29):
You look, I worked out twenty two years homie to
go to the NFL, and I made it. But you
know what, ain't nobody gonna catch me slipping at the
red light? Nope? Got something for him? Did he watch minutes?
Did he see cousin Harold s I get out the car, okay,
get out the car. Ain't going out like that? Man?
Do you p people really understood? Like stop watching TV?
(15:53):
Have you ever seen a real shooting? Have you ever
been in a gun rage with a fake shooting? And
see how fact if you do anything? Yeah, bye bye, dog.
This ain't this ain't slow motion, This ain't special effects.
This ain't effects. The things coming so all this like
I'm prepared and like at the house, I get it.
(16:15):
Somebody breaking it to your house? Hey man, hey you
you if you breaking my house, you're not walking out.
I don't care if you ran out or not. And
you ain't take nothing. You the alarm scared you? Oh
I got outdoor missiles. Something gonna get you. You gonna
get it. But at the red light, dog don't or
get it properly licensed, keep it in the proper place,
(16:36):
etceter or go through the proper steps. So I just
thought this was interesting one to talk through it a
little bit, because, Uh, I think we risk it all
that we worked for in many ways. I want you
to beat it up in the comments, tell me some stories,
or tell me some things you did that on the
side you were risking it. Oh, oh, it's gonna be
a fun. Well. I'm beating in comments heavy, get a hole,
(16:58):
little go. I just can't hold because I'm back and
I'm the man with sol the cumber. Tone them, but
back back to the day after this attacked them, back them.
You remember that's all said it off by big Daddy.
Can't get this? First of all? What did he say? Seriously,
what did he say? Get a whole lock? Ho? But
that that was that era where everything had a whistle
(17:23):
at the end, public enemy, all of them all. Oh,
that was an epic era in rap music. I loved it,
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I go out there and help them discover their greatness. Yes,
let's talk about Antonio Brown who discovered this greatness and
forgot about it. It seemed like uh many a years ago.
Seems like what's going on Antonio now? Former NFL player
ball or boss Hall of Famer. Give it to him.
(18:07):
He gonna be one rested in Florida over the weekend
for child support negligence. Yes, so, Wiltrice Jackson, his ex said,
I'll be having some jokes Wiltris. They don't make that
name no more good lowd what eighteen hundred wiltris? Anyway,
she says she wanted him arrested because of his unpaid
(18:28):
child support. Yes she did, she says, because he quote
unquote has been acting untouchable. Now he owed her thirty
one thousand dollars in unpaid child support, which most people
are thinking Antonio Brown got that right, but he ain't
paying her the child support necessary. So she said he
was making a mockery of the situation and that's why
(18:50):
she filed because Brown wasn't paying the support. All right,
saw all of that cool, cool, cool. Here's her quote.
I do him arrested because right now he's making a
mockery out of the judge, out of everything because he
feels like he's untouchable. As I said, now, let's talk
about this, because y'all know, I only brought this story
(19:11):
up not to talk about Antonio Brown. Talk about them
damn itty bitties and the turmoil. Those kids are gonna
be raised up on, raised up in and then asked, requested,
demanded to blossom in that soil where these seeds are
going to be stepped on constantly because of this turmoil.
(19:34):
Anybody had to go through situations like this, any of
you guys from separated homes, broken homes, you know what
I'm talking about, or the dynamic that's happening now where
there's involved parents versus present parents, And I'm gonna talk
about that right these scenes is being stepped on daily
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when you have this type of issue. And I know firsthand,
because when you don't have both parents together, both parents present,
there will be some issues gear wrong. Tet and I
love when I talk to other parents, and I love
when we had that cocktail party and people say, no,
I'm an involved parent and we co parent and everything
(20:15):
is fine, And I just sit there and say, must
we be pleasant this whole night? Or can we talk
some gangster shoe because ain't no way. If you've ever
been that kid, or thought of that kid in that
kid's feet, in that kid's shoes, in that kid's mind,
is that kid thinking everything is fine? Give you this example.
Every single day it feels like I have three hundred
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and forty seven million decisions to make involving my kids,
and half of them when they're right there present, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy.
I mean, it's in one minute. I hear my name
ten times, if we're talking, if we hanging ten times weapons,
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if you're not there, they say your name. If they
say your name, you're not there, you answered, you heard them.
We talk about this position so often from the parents
level and how well the parents are getting along, good
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or bad about the iteddy biddies. What about the itty
biddies is sitting there like they're now being challenged and
coached to actually not even call out for you because
they know you're not there, or in some real contention situations,
not call out for you because it will make their
(21:41):
situation worse because Mama or daddy don't want to hear
your name. I went through this. One of the reasons
I have an uber commitment to family now is because
of how my family dynamics started. As you guys know,
I have four kids. I would talk about three little
(22:02):
itdy biddies a lot, but the fourth one older than me.
Morocca is twenty four, but she older than me. Morocca
was born and raised separately from me and her mom.
She lived with her mom most of the time, but
she stayed with her dad some of the time, especially
the early years I had her. At the longest time
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I ever had Morocca was almost a year when she
was like a year two years old. Other than that,
summers other than that, vacations other than that, weekends in
the NFL. And I can speak from experience. And you
know how I can speak from this experience. Not only
(22:45):
would I witnessed, not only what I went through and
how it was tearing me apart, how many times I
was in court paying my child support. Yet this ain't
that story, but damn it, going through it, just paying lawyers,
paying child support, pain, everything, just to try to stay involved.
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But it couldn't be present active player. We broke up,
she's on the other side of the country. WHOA, you're
talking about pain, pain, pain, pain and pain. That's all
I kept doing, and I remember and getting caught up
almost in my pain, my involvement. And then when she
(23:31):
got of age, we started talking about how she felt
lord and she couldn't even go to those places. Fully,
I don't see it. I didn't see it because she
would get lit up with emotion every time she get close,
because she had tucked that away, she already conditioned herself
(23:57):
to not discuss those things and not reach out, to
not call for daddy because it wasn't always well received.
Just wanted to have a little conversation on this iddy
bitty perspective because parents a lot of themselves and a
lot of their friends in the same dynamic, the same situations,
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thinking we're gonna break up and everything's gonna be smooth.
Speak on this level right here, when that kid who
needs you to rear them, to guide them, doesn't have
you there with your hand on the wheel, where you
think they're going, where you think that vehicle's going out
(24:38):
of control, wrong lane, going too fast, not properly trained, etc.
Not trying to throw guilt on your parents and trying
to throw reality on your parents, because I've been through it,
the guilt and the reality. Oh man, it's tough. It's tough.
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So all I'm saying is, yay, take these commitments seriously, man,
not only to get into them, but how you try
to unwind and get out of them. But even if
you get out of it, trust me. Do not think
you wearing all white, Do not think you all clean,
(25:21):
because that itty bitty is crying out for you, even
without showing one tier. Corney caught me slipping again. Oh man,
you know what she called me doing? Poking around in
the crap game, Homies, stick up soft, because I ain't
in the rap game now though ain't out as much
bang out throat cuts standing on stage and I'm grabbing
(25:43):
my what ice Q When he left n w A
and had that America's Most Wanted album and that song
came out. Poking around in the crap game, Think him soft,
because now I'm in the rap gaming. Do y'all understand
the rhythmic cadence of boom boom boom boo boo boo
(26:06):
boom boom boo boo boo boom boom boom boom boom
bom boom boom boom boom boom. Told your ice QB
help raised me all right now. ESPN used to raise
me too growing up. He had that thing locked in
watching ESPN all day every day. I used to watch
like three spot centers in a row. I'm like, then,
I see that video didn't matter because I was like,
(26:26):
they're gonna say something else different, Three words different made
it all worth watching a whole nother hour of it. Well,
espinned and the relationship with Pat McAfee is all is
going well, let's just say that, but there are some concerns.
Nothing's perfect right and it starts and let me give
you a few examples. They're saying, Okay, we got some
(26:46):
issues here, but we'll figure out how to address them.
Want you guys in the comments to help me figure
out how to address them? Aaron Rodgers amazing, great platform,
Great Aaron Rodgers, it's all blowing up. His opinion sometimes
gets them into the hot water. What you think they
should do about it? Oh, well that's how it goes
right now. The real issue isn't McAfee, and it's not
(27:08):
Aaron Rodgers. It's not any of us. It's is ping,
as they're saying and suggesting in this article, attempt to
make its ecosystem like basically everybody else more like McAfee
instead of let McAfee just be McAfee and everybody else
be themselves. It seems like now there's this ecosystem pressure
(27:30):
to be more like McAfee, and that's gonna compromise potentially
the uniqueness of him, and y'all gonna look inauthentic, Like
what is what you're doing? I got some examples here, right,
So we know Adam Schefter and that tweet and his
credibility was taking a hit when he talked about Aaron
(27:52):
Rodgers and that controversial tweet way back, lost a little
trust from his audience. Right, y'all remember that his whole
debate and the COVID vaccine stuff. Like I hope nobody
died on that heel And I mean that like in
terms of the conversation. But some people feel like they
went too far, went to that point, right, and it
(28:13):
was pretty crazy. Uh, let's talk about this situation. His
language no problem because they got all of the delays,
they got the language requests, so they could play around
with it in terms of the technology. Uh, but there
are some situations where you're seeing people say stuff you
didn't expect them to say, like Mike Greenberg maybe damaging
(28:36):
his brand. Now we know who he is and we
know how he talks, and we know that he's straight lined, right,
But now it's like some let's e fing go, Like
where's that coming from? Like what? But let's like let's
efing go. We seen him on game day, his influence.
(28:57):
We've seen other people starting to act up. We've seen
the Phoenix Energy Phoenix Energy. Oh, they got my boy,
Desmond Howard out there doing Penis commercials. It was kind
of crazy. Oh man, call them at the chap h
McAfee clown in Washington State, McAfee clowning teens that they
(29:17):
ain't got no conference, they ain't got a home. He
clowning a homeless of college sports in these universities, ain't
got no home. So what's happening here is a lot
of moving parts. In terms of moving personalities. You're seeing
guys shift. You're seeing the producers maybe aging them on,
(29:40):
egging them come on over, do a little more, give
me a little more, come on. All that kind of stuff.
And that's the McAfee effect that they're calling it right now. Okay,
so let's talk to this. What's happening now. I didn't
like what the article said in terms of ESPN is
trying to move personalities towards McAfee. Don't blame them bosses
(30:03):
up there for this one. This ain't that even a journalist.
Sean Kelly says, McAfee's punching down and clowning all these conferences.
College Football's biggest cheerleader and biggest bully is College game
Day because of McAfee all that kind of stuff. Don't
blame ESPN bosses for this one, y'all. Listen to this.
You know what them bosses is doing, sitting back and watching,
(30:28):
and you know what the talent is doing, looking at
the bosses and singing this song. It's written all over
your face. You don't have to say a word. They
looking at them bosses and say, boss, you ain't gotta
say a word. I'm about to act up, act out
why because of the culture. And what's the culture of ESPN. Now,
(30:55):
what's the culture of any place? It's what's rewarded, So
you reward Pat McAfee eighty five million just to him
who knows aj hawk making and all the rest of
them cats. Right, you give him eighty five million, You
give him more than anybody else who works here on
the daily. Now, ain't talk about Troy Aikman and Joe Buck.
I'm talking about on the Daily more than Steven A.
(31:21):
So their may you know, you know how Dan LeBatard
always says that Skip and stephen A created all these minions,
these grimlins. Yeah, people who want to act like them.
They only want to act like him for one reason
cause they want to get what they got. Duh, that's culture.
So culture has shifted at ESPN. So it's now all right,
(31:42):
Steven A is gonna get you right there close too.
But Pat McAfee is a whole different animal. Let's see
what that is like. And he gonna create his grimlins,
and he gonna create his minions. Even some people who
are established, like a Mike Greenberg who on this show
and in him. Let's go how it goes boiling that
frog again, right, small subtle little things. Everybody's kind of
(32:06):
taking their shot to see how it goes this land
and then boss, I ain't doing it because you said so.
But you ain't gotta say a word. Only thing is
I ain't mad at none of that. It's just because
I like Pac McFie. Pat McAfee had me mesmerage watching
that sixty thousand dollars kickoff this weekend and then thirty
(32:26):
thousand dollars kickoff because the dude got too cocky and
missed the kick. Love it. It's just patrol this, y'all
watch because cask gonna try to figure out, Okay, somebody
and winning, there has to be losers. So if somebody's
thinking they're on a quest to win, they gonna be
seeking for somebody to lose. I don't want it to
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be the sports, the athletes, the ethics. I'm just watching
this one because McAfee already won, and McAfee did it
his way, the right way or authentic way, whatever you
want to call it. Now somebody else with the copycat scheme,
let's just say they ain't gonna go through those same steps, right.
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And it's that pressure to stand out. It's that pressure
to keep up that suggests to these guys to start
acting a little different, doing a little more right. I
remember what the pressure for us used to be. Do
you want to be first, or you want to be right,
remember that, like stories just couldn't wait to say it, like, oh,
I don't know, I don't know if it's fully checked,
(33:29):
fully vetted. I'm just saying it, and everybody want to
be first, not right. Then that kind of phased out,
and there are always these urges to act up and
act out and to be the first, because you know
the rewards. Like I even felt them, the temptations like man,
I'm just about to act get this money. I was like,
(33:49):
I'm making good money. Actually, I'm making great money. I
can make great money if I just act up. I
was like, man, that ain't it. That ain't it right?
So I see it all the time, and I always
go back to what trained me. Y'all used to watch
Looney Tunes, Bugs Bunny, y'all used to watch that Member
(34:09):
Days had that tortoise and hair race every I don't know,
it's felt like every month one race was a tortoise
in hair. The tortoise and that hair be saying he
run through the town and that tortoise go, it's a crackout.
(34:30):
And I was like, why am I sitting there watching
this when I know the outcome? He can't win. And
I really don't know how he used to win, But
that tortoise would beat that hair every time that hair
go all around that damn town doing all this. I
don't know if he got lost and he got caught
up or he was stopping at the bar hollering at
the homies and hollering at old girl. He never beat
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that tortoise, And that used to train me to be like,
patience is a virtue. So let's see how impatient cats
at ESPN will become because McAfee passed them up in
terms of the rewards. So therefore the culture has now
shifted to pat McAfee. Y'all tell me what do y'all
(35:12):
think about ESPN? And like the content right now? You
see this shift that they were reporting in this article.
Are you like now everything's seen the same? I don't know.
I mean they're just cursing a little more cursing on
Greenberg Show, right, And what are the challenging benefits of
incorporating those type of personalities? You know, this is a
smart show. We like to talk about things that others
(35:33):
don't talk about. So I love to see what you
guys think about that. Ah, what time is it. I'm
not gonna lie. This one's gonna be one of my favorites.
Put this one on the mount rushmore of my role ins.
What time is it? Six? Send the more than police
satl Thou fresh Shedida squeak across that bath from flow WHOA.
(35:53):
I never gang bag in my life, never inclined, never
was seduced. However, that was the closest I ever got.
When I her iced Tea hit that No. Six like
it's time to start cripping, I was like, what is this?
That was an amazing song. Man, Love that dude for
that song right there and the beat that he got
from my man over there in the East Coast PSK
or something like that. Respect to both of y'all. All right,
(36:15):
speaking of respect, respect now to Pro Football Dog, because
it's time to bring in doctor David Child, who looks good,
but I know he can't feel that good because he's
still a Charger fan at heart. Tell me how you feel, Doc.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'm certainly not as big a Chargers fan as that
lady they kept showing on TV last night. I mean,
she got more cameos, and she got more cameos than
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Do I not know?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Something she got. Is she the Asian twa Taylor Swift?
I don't know. Tell me what was that.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I was at the game, so I didn't get to
see her. What was it they doing that AI stuff
again or who was it?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No, they kept showing a fan in the at the game.
It's it's all over the internet. They kept showing the
same fan like seven times. It was just all this
emotion and everything else. It was kind of interesting. I mean,
they showed her a lot. I really think they showed
her more than Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey game. I don't
(37:12):
know what that was right there. She was very emotional.
And here's the other thing is there's a lot of
talk now, Marcellus, you're missing it all. Was she an
actor or was she a plant? Or was she real? Cause,
let me tell you, I get where people were saying
that because A she was in a suite B by
the sixth time they went back to her. How does
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she not have any friends? Like no one else was
mugging for the cameras or doing everything. I mean, I mean,
did you ever get a shot of Taylor Swift where
there was no one sitting around her or standing around her?
I mean, there's always people I don't know who knows.
I don't know what the whole deal was.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, Doc, you know, I went to one of the
games and they had this AI some movie coming out
with AI and had these fake real robot, fake people,
real people and it was like a thing. So maybe
they're trying to now hide that but still promote that.
So maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And no, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, you got to see her, but nobody has seen
Deshaun Watson in a while. And that's the start of
this segment with us. Let's clean up on our four
as you tell me what's going on with Deshaun Watson
in this mess.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
There's a lot of cleanup to go on here. In
no way, shape or form, am I saying Deshaun Watson
doesn't want to play or he pulled the fast on
the team. In no way am I saying the Browns
are doing something wrong with the doctor. But there's something
that doesn't make sense. Let's recap it here. Week three.
He finishes the game, plays pretty well, takes a hit
(38:43):
in the third quarter near the goal line on the
right shoulder, direct contusion, and I actually think he's gonna
play week four just contusion, even though he was limited
in practice Week four. Right before the game, he warms
up and says he can't play, and then we learn
Kevin Stefanski had coach says he was cleared to play medically.
(39:04):
And then we find out dtr his rookie backup, found
out right before the game that he was the starter.
And then there was a bye week, and then GM
Andrew Berry says, oh no, it was a joint decision.
They didn't play. And then coming off the by he
didn't practice at all and didn't play, and he hasn't
(39:25):
spoken the media yet. So I'm just saying there's lots
of questions. I mean, Marcellus, you having played the game,
how big of a situation is it if a player
is in theory, ready to go playing and starting to
play and then surprises the team or is a surprise inactive.
(39:45):
I mean, that's a big shift. I mean, I don't
know what happened there, but something happened.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
All right, Doc, Well, he hasn't spoken Deshaun Watson just yet,
so we're going to allow that to happen before we
have full clarity in this situation. Well, some people that
were speaking and we saw yesterday with their hands instead
of their words. A lot of fights. We saw some
pregame scuffles over the weekend. Chargers even had a fight
with the Cowboys until the game started. Then they stopped
(40:10):
fighting as much. Let me stop, but tell me. I
saw Echoler get pushed in the face. Didn't get pussed
in the head.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
What happened the side of the head. His helmet popped off.
I thought it was washing. I thought it was going
back to my childhood, Rock them sock them robots. You
ever have that game where you and the head pops
up and he got jaw jact and his helmet flew
off his head. I thought it was that video, that
little game that we used to have. Look, I don't know.
(40:36):
I mean, I'm not sure what's happened. It has been
like three incidents is recently pregame. I mean, way back
in the day, I thought referees are supposed to be
on the field. I've got referees during all warm up
adjudicated everything. I'm surprised none of these have resulted in
any penalties or anything yet. I mean, there's been three
in this last week of pregame.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
You know why, Doc, They're not gonna kick them boys out.
This is too much of an entertainment product. NFL has
now transformed from being just the biggest sport in our
country to not only the biggest television product, but it's
our biggest entertainment product. So like, now, who is going
to the concert to not see Taylor Swift perform? Right,
(41:19):
So Austin next, All these dudes know it now, It's
almost impossible to get kicked out of a game unless
you really do something crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Now, the NFL's invading the Olympics, right, flag football and
Gronk wants to play. What are the chances you think
Gronk is on the Olympic flag football team in twenty
twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Ah Man, no chance at all. Matter of fact, two
thousand and eight, Gronk wouldn't have been a good flag
football player, Like y'all gotta think flag football player. I
want nothing but skinny dudes, little dudes, quick dudes, shifty dudes.
I do not need Gronk labor. He can't block it.
Would he gonna do body somebody up? That's not the
same thing. It's a whole different skill set. So I
don't even think he's a Hall of fame flag football player,
(42:02):
even though he was a beast in real football. Oh,
let's talk about that. You just took me into just
like the international mindset. What's the feasibility of the NFL
really putting the team in London? A lot of smoke
around that, and we see Jacksonville there every other week.
It seemed like.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I've been saying for years, the travel is feasible. Think
about it.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
If you're in.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Buffalo, New York, is the travel closer to London or
to la If you're in Miami, is the travel closer
to London or to Seattle? Right now? It would be
a beast for Seattle teams to go over there. But
and what's proving my point is this time the Jaguars,
as you mentioned, stayed there and played two consecutive games.
(42:45):
Right They flew out there late in the week, played,
stayed the next week, played, and then came home an
evidence Part two. A lot of teams are just flying
out there on Friday now, no longer staying the week.
Number three, All the teams that came back from London,
except for the Tennessee Titans, elected to not have their
(43:08):
bye week after London game. And you the league gives
you the choice, right, and so I think that's more
evidence than it's it's the creep. And and you know,
now we have the Frankfurt games right to Germany games,
and we all know NFL Europe in the end became
NFL Germany, right, those are the only teams that were
(43:29):
left in Germany. I see a situation where it's kind
of like the Green Bay Packers have the Milwaukee season
ticket package, the Jacksonville Jaguars may have a two or
four game London season ticket package, right, kind of deal
because of you know the game. That's look, you got
(43:51):
to keep growing the game if you want that salary
cap to keep growing. And that's how they hand out
contracts based on the salary cap. And the salary cap
is tied to what TV revenue, so you need bigger audiences.
At some point, everyone who has any remote interests in
America is already watching the football game. So how do
you grow the game? It's the international side. So I
see it coming, and I see it even being easier
(44:13):
when the NFL, I think, inevitably goes to see if
you agree with this, and evily goes to an eighteen
game regular season, but two bye weeks. What will that do?
It gives you twenty weeks of TV football. It opens
up Thursday night football teams off of bye week, so
(44:35):
there's no short rest. It would open up Wednesday football, right,
I mean if you're pairing teams coming off off off
buys and so forth, and the revenue is more on
off of TV than in person. So I think when
the NFL goes to eighteen games, they're going to go
to two bye weeks and get the revenue and put
(44:56):
one by week early in the season one later in
the season.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah. They try to just get more inventory, and the
only way to get more inventory is to expand it.
And as you expanded not only in a number of games,
but also in territory, get outside your borders, recruit new fans,
new perspectives. All of that stuff is true, and what
unlocked it for me is simple. When I saw the
schedule that Jacksonville was going to London and then the
(45:22):
next game is in London, I was like, Oh, this
is how they boil the frog, right, you make the
water too hot, the frog ain't even go hop in
there too hop But if you just put them in
some warm room temperature water, just turn it up a
little bit. He stays there boils. They just turning it
up on us just a little. Oh, Jacksonville just had
consecutive weeks in London. Who knew? I'm like, yeah, you knew,
(45:44):
and then next thing you know, it's gonna be the
damn London Jaguars or something of that nature. Let's switch
gears right here, Doc. A lot of injuries. Let's just
go right to your wheelhouse first and foremost, especially at
the quarterback position. I was sitting there watching Justin Herbert
with a non throwing hand, broken finger affect his throwing.
(46:05):
It look like we got Aaron Rodgers already from day one,
play number four, Justin Fields, de Shaun Watson, etc. Seem
like half the quarterbacks are hurt. Tell me what your
take is on this.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
There aren't. Half the quarterbacks literally have been hurt. I
mean Ryan Tannehill, Trevor Lawrence is questionable for this Thursday
after that Gator role on his leg and knee. There
have been a lot of quarterback injuries. Kenny Pickett had
the mcl Yaki goes on and on. Literally half the teams,
not barely a third of the way through the season,
(46:39):
over half the teams have had a quarterback injury of
some sort, some with longer lesson. Jimmy Garoppolo miss time
with a concussion and now is injured. Derek Carr had
the ac joint spring. I mean, the list goes on
and on and on in this brutal game. That's why
the league tries to protect those quarterbacks. Justin Herbert you
mentioned last night, here's how it affect his game. I
(47:01):
don't think it affected his peer passing ability, but it
affected I laughed at this. I don't know if you
noticed this. I said all week, Justin Herbert's going to
be fine coming off a bye. He's going to be
better with the finger, but he's going to be exclusively
in shotgun. First play from scrimmage under center, the rest
of the game from shotgun. That's the Hey, we're going
(47:21):
to show Dallas that we're not exclusively shotgun. It's sort
of like the quarterback that can't throw along. I remember
Marcus Marriott a couple of years back. I was telling
her he can't throw along. First series boom, long pass,
way off the mark. But then, okay, now you got
to respect that he can throw long, even though he's
just going underneath and how it affected the game is
I think it's all you tell me. I think it's
(47:42):
a lot harder, especially against the stout Dallas defense, to
run out of shotgun than it is to run out
from under center. And that might have effect affected Austin
Eckler's effectiveness, even though I think his ankle was fine.
And I think it also affected the game a little
bit because the week that he hurt the fan, Justin
Herbert ran a sneak and didn't get it because he
(48:03):
couldn't hold the ball out with two hands. He was
in his belly. And if you notice on the two
fourth and one key plays, they were in shotgun. I
don't know about you. I don't like the shotgun look
from fourth and one. I mean, you want to have
the thread of the sneak and then throw and go outside.
If you're in shotgun, they're in spread for you. Right,
It's a whole different deal. And that was dictated by
(48:23):
the other finger. And there were times when he fell
and got knocked down where no one falls. No one
falls down with your hand up in the air unless
you're trying to protect your hand. So kudos to Justin
Herbert for playing through but it did have some effect
on the game, even though it was his non drawing hand.
And a lot more to come here. Justin Fields is
extended absence dislocated thumb. Look what makes us different than
(48:45):
everyone else every other animal? Right is a posable thumb.
If you don't have an ipposable thumb, you can't grip it,
you can't spin it. Justin Fields is going to be
out for an extended period of time with that dislocated thumb,
and hopefully he avoid surgery. Anthony Richards and looks like
he's headed for shoulder surgery. There's just a lot going on,
and that just shows how valuable the quarterback position is.
(49:07):
And this is why they set up all the rules
to protect the quarterback. But what's the problem here. The
problem is quarterbacks are only protected in the pocket. But
all the quarterbacks now in the days extend plays and
do stuff outside the pocket. And how do you protect
them outside the pocket? That's different. Like our boy Philip Rivers,
(49:27):
you know, had his long streak of all these games
because that man stayed in the pocket, right, He wasn't
trying to run out of the pocket.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
That's all he had. Right, Spin it like this and
I ain't moving anywhere. You could have literally designed a
concrete structure of three feet straight back. That's Philip Rivers
right there, just right there, darting man. Appreciate you. Kudos
to all these quarterbacks who are wrapped in bubble wrap,
protected in the pocket, still out there getting slay because
football hurts every single day and every single way. And
(49:58):
kudos to you Doc for showing up for your boy
this week on our Tuesday therapy session. We'll check in
with you next week. Brother, Thank you, all right, appreciate you,
big dog. I love that man. I just sit back.
I don't know how long he is on their twenty
thirty minutes, but I try to get in as few
words as possible because everything he says he is educating
(50:20):
me and you guys as well. All right, let's get
to funking up some comments. Funking up some comments. Yeah
all right. Stephen A. Smith, Oh yeah, that was yesterday.
When it comes to handling business, Stephen A. Smith is
like Alonzo and training day. Oh wow, no you didn't.
He says he's your friend, got a lot of respect
for you, knowing you for years, etc. But he really
(50:42):
he'll take you out of any time to make himself
look good. Wow, hey, I see some of that in
you because I shout out to Dreamers Pro. We ever
watched them on YouTube amazing podcast in terms of hours view.
That's my favorite podcast on YouTube. Go to Dreamers Pro.
Shout out to what they do. But at the same time,
(51:04):
he always talks about how stephen A always leads with
I like them, I like them, this ain't personal. I
like him, And then what that's kind of funny. I'm
gonna keep it real. This story about stephen A versus
Max Kellerman got me invested, and I can even say
versus Max because Max hasn't said a word. I find
it very interesting from steven a point of view. Why
would he continue to talk about a coworker that he
(51:26):
got up out of there and said, coworker hasn't said
anything about the situation. Come on them. We already know that.
Three things are interesting to me. Firstly, how many people
are involved Whitlock, Wiley, Lebtard. Second, no one is coming
to his defense. And lastly, when to said what he said,
that was it. Stephen A may be the king, but
(51:47):
be what we are seeing now heavy is the head
that where's the crown? Preach. I don't rock with Whitlock,
but I respect him because he stands on what he says.
Whitlock stands on what he says better than anybody I've
seen in this industry. Like, and that doesn't mean you
don't change your opinion. It just means I said what
(52:08):
I said, Bro, like what you want, Like, you know,
you can tell some people talking it, but like they're
waiting really for your response to solidify what they said,
not were like he just said it, Bro. I respect
that We're Lock is tripping blaming Max. Stephen A. Smith
is the only one minimizing Max. Steven A Smith multiple
times disrespecting Max on air. Yeah, I mean the word
(52:30):
trying is the only thing that was Wilock saying Max
wasn't trying and it just happened. Point being, I think
that was the only part that was like a little miscommunicated.
Appreciate your addressing this Jason situation. Keywords here are my perspective.
I think this entire situation is based on different perspectives
and different outlooks on what's wrong or right, and less
about lies and truth. Just my opinion. Yeah, a lot
(52:53):
of cliches in there, but I know what you're saying.
We're just telling you what it is. You know, I'm
telling you what I saw. Stephen A could you know?
And Max, he ain't gonna tell you nothing. You ain't
gonna say nothing. He gonna write a book. Max's gonna
write a book and get paid off it. That's what
he's gonna do. Gonna keep it real. I can't do
the bathroom stuff. My wife started doing that open door
bodily function stuff and I had to put a stop
(53:14):
to it. Too gross for my taste. Hmmm, the voice
papers in the mill. Now, I'm just saying, if you
can't take raw and real from your significant other, if
you make them have to get like proper just to
be that's heavy doog like may hold your nose and
look away, or like let her live and let you live.
(53:35):
Like if I can't launch, why excuse me? And we
what are you doing? I'm like, oh God, are we
still dating? You know what I mean? Nah? Primetime, the
complaint about the late kickoffs is just something coach Prime
is gonna have to deal with. For college football to boom,
Thursday and Friday primetime games become a thing. These schools
and conferences made money doing so it's not disappearing. Uh huh.
(53:58):
More money that means you about to do more to
get more money. The n IDL deals look great, except
them kids got to do community service. You ain't gonna
just I ain't just giving you money. Oh you're gonna
work with some kids. You ever talk to them kids
an IO deal? They gotta like hide it under service.
It ain't. It ain't always hitting. You gonna work for
it too. As well. Wiley was spot on when describing
(54:21):
going to another place when he talked about seeing a
teammate actually hurt and then you wake up. I got
chills cuz I know exactly what he was talking about
and never realized when I played, because going there with
second nature. Great explanation, Wiley, appreciate you, man. Yeah, I
didn't recognize it either. When I played that, I was
like going to alternate universes, like different dimensions of life.
(54:44):
But then when I retired, I was like, Yo, whatever
I just went through for the last twenty five years
ten professionally was different. And now when I go to
the games, like yesterday, I'm sitting there and I'm just
sitting there watching these mammals run around and he each
other especially from our perspective because we got the end
zone shot. So I get to see plays develop, like
(55:05):
that's how we watch film. I love watching plays develop
right from the back of his eyes. And they were
on the goal line. They gave a ball to Austin
Echeler that sucker round in there, and it was like this,
I'm not lying. Austin Necker got the ball. Even my
son and my wife were like, I could just see
it in there. I was like, and my wife turned
around she was like yeah. I was like, yeah, that
(55:27):
was just one play, baby, It's different out there on
that field. All right, y'all, y'all know how we finished
this show. We finished it every day with a what
Lee ism. Yeah, feelings only come before truth in the dictionary. Yes,
this is some coaches talk. Feelings only come before truth
(55:49):
in the dictionary. I remember seeing that red dot on
the screen before, and you don't want that red dot
on you too often because coach ain't usually giving out compliments.
Usually that red dot is to teach, and he only
teaches two problems. So here we go, and he got
that red dot on you. He shake, he said, look
at here, right here, Wiley, and he is strictly talking
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about what happened. Don't catch feelings. He's saying, this is
what you need to do, and this is the truth,
and it's gonna hurt. But don't catch feelings. And if
you don't catch feelings, only time they come before. This
truth is in the dictionary. I remember sitting there because
you know your coach behind you doing this. You're seeing
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that red dout. You're like, all right, dog, I get it,
I get it, I get it. Yeah, I get it. Yeah,
But you ain't saying this. You're just like thinking, like,
all right, you made your point. Oh why you're getting louder.
I ain't even saying nothing back, yes, coach, Yeah, all right,
you got her. Yep, all right, no problem, norm Yep,
I get it. Yep. Next time we're gonna do it right, Yep.
You're trying to move on. He like, nah, shaking that
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thing you and your feelings, huh he and that truth?
Which one should come first? Which one gonna win? So
what happens like that, not just in the film session,
not just in the film room, but in life. I
know what happens to me and my relationship all the time.
My wife does something and it gets me and my feelings.
I got some weird triggers. I got one trigger that
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I don't like the house to be loud until everyone
is up. So that's kind of tough to always have
the police because I got a three year old, a
four year old to eight year old, and a loud wife.
So if the wife wakes up first, she just I
don't know how she was raised. They just stomping through
(57:34):
the house like I'm up, so everybody else better be up.
I'm like, baby, the kids are still sleeping. Oh yeah,
like I just told her something she ain't know, Like
she just totally leaves that place. Then the boy gets
up and he want to bottle flip let's go, and
then he want to play with all his toys and
stuff Bay Blade Tournament. I'm like, you here, allowed, that
is your sister's still sleep? You looking at me? He
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he doing what I did in that film room. Doll
cursed me in his head, like all right, dad, like
his feelings. The little one gets up, Oh it's a rap.
She ain't listening anyway, but it's rap. Other one gets up,
middle child. Oh, now y'all all can be loud because
everybody else but before that, I'm trying to police that
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and everybody in their feelings. But everybody kind of calms
down because they realize I'm telling the truth. Happens in
your world all the time as well, right, especially in relationships.
Somebody tell you something real and you just don't want
to hear it, and even if you do want to
hear it, just don't feel good. Right, But just remember
this one. Feelings only come before truth in the dictionary.
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know what happened to me yesterday. Y'all watch that game
from from Golly whoa. Can we play a little better
football at the end of the game. Ah, we be
undefeated if we just finished the games. Good lord, these Chargers. Ah,
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it simple. I'm gonna tell you gonna win, who gonna lose?
Like yesterday I said everybody, Cowboy's gonna win, no idea.
Oh man, don't bet on me, bet against me. You
might win some money that way. All right, y'all, I
know we start off every show with what's up with
that dude? Well, yesterday was game day in the Wiley House.
Good day any dogphs in house? Any dogson. However, my
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kids are competitive. I ain't that competitive. Don't let me
fool you. I'm giggling through everything I do, even on
the football field in the NFL. I had jokes my
kids about that life. They get serious. I told my
son yesterday, I say, you know today, were going to
the game today, let's go. He doing his bottle flip dude,
(02:41):
whoever that guy got him, saying let's go? Is he
do that? Let's go? All right? And then he told
his sister, the four year old, that she can go.
She said, it's game day. She went like this with
her hair. She started flinging her brains a rest ah,
She's like, okay, ran to get her jersey and stuff.
Now we have another child in the house. Are three
year olds. He ain't going them. Yellow jacket securities will
(03:03):
work overtime. If she showed up in the game. She
can't sit still. She don't know how to act. She
got this little demon like quality sometime like Chucky from
child play, where nothing I say is nothing I say
makes her stop. I'd be like Olivia stop, Olivia, no
more ya ya. So she ain't going to game till
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she get that little demon out of her. Anyway, they
ran right to her room and told her we going
to the game to day. You can't go because you
don't listen all the time because you're too young, but
you'll get there one day. She was like, a daddy,
I can't go to the game. I'm like, you can't
cry every time. You're not going to the games right now.
They didn't go to the games when they were your
age either, so hilarious. But anyway, we went to the game, man,
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and the first thing riding up, no lie, We riding
my kids watching the little TV in the car, and
then they looked up. They said, a lot of cowboy fans. Daddy.
I was like, yeah, yeah, you gonna see a lot
of cowboy fans, just like we don't see any charge.
They were thinking about taking off their jersey and they
chaining all that. I was like, come on, y'all, ain't
how it goes. They're the road team. La is a
(04:07):
better city than Dallas had to do that, and they
wanted to come out here on VAK right. Anyway, it
was a good game. I can't lie because it was
close competitive. Herbert was off and that's hard for me
to say because I love me some Herbie, but Herbert
was off and those were points, a lot of points. Coaches, coach.
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If he don't do better, he gone. You already know.
So I ain't even gonna try and kill him or nothing.
It's just too much gambling, too much talent, too much
wasted opportunity. You know he gonna be going if he
doesn't fix this. Anyway, this is not personal, But Herbert
wasn't Herbert yesterday. I don't know why was it the
broken finger? On the off hand, I'm trying to think
if I'm a football quarterback and like, do I need
(04:50):
this hand? I noticed it? Look at this, I noticed
this thing crooked? Okay, but do I need it? Because
he just missed too. Herbert throws dog dimes and he
was throwing Nichols yesterday. I was like that, ain't it
all right? So anyway, only other thing that happened in there,
other than getting bashed by it was a lot of
Cowboys fans like eighty twenty ninety ten, it felt like,
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but it wasn't the same in terms of the noise,
Like they weren't overwhelming us with the noise like Raiders
games when they do something it's loud. Steelers game's loud.
I ain't catch that with the Cowboys, but they were deep.
They were deep. It was insane. My wife. The only
other thing is my wife is such a nice lady supporter,
(05:34):
but she's she's not even passive aggressive. She just won't
say what she really feels, and she'll leak it out,
which is I guess classic passive aggressive. But she doesn't
leak it out in a negative way. It just comes
out in all these weird versions like this. So my
wife is over where we sit. I have eight season
tickets that are right there in the front row of
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the end zone. Why because I wanted the NFL experience.
Why because when I played in the NFL, I was
jealous of the fans up there pounding drank, banging dogs
and just chilling. I was like, wait a minute, I
got a stinger in my neck and a suckle over
there taking a double to the head, and I'm like,
(06:15):
one day, baby, I mean, these sacks feel cool, and
making this run tackle behind the line of scrimmage amazing,
y'all cheering for me. I take it, but damn I
take a double too. So soon as I retired, I
remember the day I knew I was gonna do this.
I was in Kansas City. We were playing the Chiefs,
going down that little pathway to the whole stadium where
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they're all barbecuing and tailgating, and it's just red and
smoke everywhere. Just everybody got on red and everybody barbecuing.
And I remember looking at people in their eyes and
they were just sitting there like and they beat us,
and they were just like, this is amazing. And I
remember in that moment it just sustaining my I said,
I'm gonna tailgay hard when I get done with this.
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I'm a party hard and watch the NFL games. It's
so fun to be at the game without pressure of
playing in the game, win and lose, Chargers, I'm still
gonna go home. It's gonna be the same reality. Ain't
like when I played. That was a whole different reality
when you won or lost. So I love going but
I sit in real seats. Yeah, my wife calls him
gin pop bougie. I was like, she'd be like, yeah,
(07:26):
he likes sitting in gin pop. But basically me and
I like being around the fans, the crowd, talking to people.
People come up to me selfies, what's up? Love, I
just do it like I love it and our wife
yesterday she leaked again. So we're sitting there and I
can feel the pressure and she want a sweet. Sorry,
I kind of buried the lead. She wants to sweet
and she don't want to say it, and I'm like,
(07:48):
I don't want to do it, but she like this.
So Mariah's getting tired. This a night game. She's starting
to lay down do this. I was like, you about
to go to bed? She said, I said, this is
a good game. She said. She was like tired, so
she laying on us. We're watching the game, and then
my wife was like, yeah, she's tired. She's kind of
tired of just laying here in these seats. Probably probably
(08:10):
want to stretch out in the suite or something. I say,
we down three? Can I live? So stipid, So all
of basically, if y'all ever see my screen shots and
my selfie shots changed to a suite. She won, But
right now I am winning that game. Like the Cowboys
beat the Chargers. I don't know why I cared too
(08:33):
much because I'm a Cowboy too as well as the Charger.
So it was fun to see it. All man, good
game though, I give it the Cowboys that they needed
that game. We needed it too, And I know coaches like,
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do it, all right, Let's get to the first topic
right here. This might be the criminal show. Right here.
We got a lot of bad stuff happening, rotten dirty
right now. We saw the Rams starting cornerbread, I said,
starting corner back for the lost Angelus Rams. Derrion Kendrick.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
D D.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They call him a little DK growing up. He got
arrested in La twelve hours after beating the Arizona Cardinals
on the football field. All right, pulled over by law four.
Ye all right, who ain't no worst feeling in the world.
What is worse than this feeling other than physical pain
when you hear when you hear a siren and it
(10:00):
ain't complete, you be like yesterday, I was at a
red light, no lie on my phone, red light on
my phone, and I look and it was a cop
and he was looking at me like this, and I
was like, he was like he might be looking at
me like, boy, you better not take off of that
light in that phone by light you up. So I
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was like, nah, man, all good, I'm not violating anything,
but Kendrick, you were. They pulled you a record burst,
pulled off her. And then every time I pull I
pull over fast, I'd be like. They'd be like, no,
keep going, keep gone, try flower traffic pastor like her guard.
I was like, you ain't gonna try to set me
up for no damn high speed chase. I ain't going nowhere.
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So I just sitting there right and then always roll
the windows down, all music off, car off. I know
why do people resist this part being stubborn? Oh I
got rolled the window down. Oh I gotta put my
hands up here. Oh I gotta turn this down. Oh
I got you the car. I'm like dog you want
to get shot up, dogs, do all the stuff you
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think he may want. How about that. Let's start there.
So now I'm all like this, I'm all locked in.
I'm like I'm at the DMV right drivers training, I'm ready.
And then you know he like, uh, license registration. But
with Darien Kendrick gets what happened? Licensed registration? Sir? Can
we see your car? Search car? Guess what they found?
He had a traffic violation that turned into a gun
(11:26):
and marijuana charge. Good this right, Dirty two fourteen in
the morning got a felony charge of carrying a concealed weapon.
Will rams no comment, of course, what can you say
bother than damn ignorant? What else they gonna say? And Kendrick,
we know he is? He a ball or two? He's
pretty good. Twenty twenty two Draft already caught up in
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this riding Dirty NFL made me think about let me
not judge, because I've been in that position before. Now,
this is what's crazy about life. When you do something
and don't get caught, and then someone does the same
exact thing and doves get caught. You could say grace
and mercy, but then are you really thinking this universe
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is showing favoritism like that. I'm just asking the question
because sometimes I want to say yes, and then I'm like,
but why am I special? When that person not special?
Then I'd be like, nah, I don't think you that
high on the horse, brother, Like, don't think you that guy?
You know? So then I'm like, but why do he
get caught? And I ain't get caught because I used
to ride around with a gun concealed weapon. I used
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to ride around the gun now, not marijuana. I didn't
do marijuana. Drank yeah, check the trunk his bud likes
not now, but back then, right, So I had that
drink back there in the trunk. I'm like, we going,
We're gonna go. We ain't have door dash when I
was growing up. We gonna. I'm bringing the drink dog.
We ain't ordering nothing. And if you ain't got it,
I got it. That's how we used to roll. But
I had that thying in there. Now. I've told this
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story before buying that gun because I was young. I
was scared because I was like, people get robbed and
killed where I'm from, and they ain't got no money.
Imagine if you got some money, I thought, I was
gonna be a real target for real. My boy talked
me into it, and I ain't put up much resistance
From that point. I'm riding around Buffalo for a couple
of years dirty, taking it into the facilities. Yes, in
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the car, never got pulled over, never got searched, never
got discovered. But the point of it is I never
got in trouble. I never got caught. He did. I
don't know explain that beat that up in the comments.
I literally don't know what that dynamic is with belief.
I can, I can guess, I can hypothesize, but I
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don't know for real, Like is there something to it?
Because I see that happen a lot, right and vice versa.
I've been caught for some stuff and you ain't got
caught for I know how the gang go, don't trip,
but why carry it? I think in commonality me, Garrion,
anybody else whoever gets caught up like this, is that
you really, at some point don't think or feel connected
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to the consequences whatever that is. You could call that
a lack of exposure, ignorant, stupidity, foolishness, you can keep
naming them, but I'm telling you I've been in that
position before, where I had it all on the line.
I'm in the NFL, I'm a second round draft choice,
I'm playing, I'm balling, and I'm still doing something that
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could sacrifice and compromise it all because just get rid
of all of it. Weird, right, You ever been in
that position, like you're doing something. I guess most people
cheating would be the one like what I just saw yesterday,
don't cheat on the one you want to keep with
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one that you don't want at all. They said it
way better than that, but basically, watch out because you're
gonna have to be with the one you cheating with.
You want that. You may want to hit that, but
you do you want that. So that was the point
of it, right Ah, Other than that, Like I don't
know what people do in common. That is just like
everyday dog, you're really giving it up. But then you
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watch the news like I can't believe that dude had
that great job and he ended up doing that on
the side, Like it's just a weird dynamic with human
beings where you could have it all, you work forever
to get it all, You got to that place and
you do something so silly and meaningless like this has
no meaning in his life right now, riding around the
streets with a gun. We gonna do y. I'm just waiting, dog.
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You look, I worked out twenty two years homie to
go to the NFL, and I made it. But you
know what, ain't nobody gonna catch me slipping at the
red light? Nope? Got something for him? Did he watch minutes?
Did he see cousin Harold s I get out the car, okay,
get out the car. Ain't going out like that? Man?
Do you p people really understood? Like stop watching TV?
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Have you ever seen a real shooting? Have you ever
been in a gun rage with a fake shooting? And
see how fact if you do anything? Yeah, bye bye, dog.
This ain't this ain't slow motion, This ain't special effects.
This ain't effects. The things coming so all this like
I'm prepared and like at the house, I get it.
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Somebody breaking it to your house? Hey man, hey you
you if you breaking my house, you're not walking out.
I don't care if you ran out or not. And
you ain't take nothing. You the alarm scared you? Oh
I got outdoor missiles. Something gonna get you. You gonna
get it. But at the red light, dog don't or
get it properly licensed, keep it in the proper place,
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etceter or go through the proper steps. So I just
thought this was interesting one to talk through it a
little bit, because, Uh, I think we risk it all
that we worked for in many ways. I want you
to beat it up in the comments, tell me some stories,
or tell me some things you did that on the
side you were risking it. Oh, oh, it's gonna be
a fun. Well. I'm beating in comments heavy, get a hole,
(16:58):
little go. I just can't hold because I'm back and
I'm the man with sol the cumber. Tone them, but
back back to the day after this attacked them, back them.
You remember that's all said it off by big Daddy.
Can't get this? First of all? What did he say? Seriously,
what did he say? Get a whole lock? Ho? But
that that was that era where everything had a whistle
(17:23):
at the end, public enemy, all of them all. Oh,
that was an epic era in rap music. I loved it,
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I go out there and help them discover their greatness. Yes,
let's talk about Antonio Brown who discovered this greatness and
forgot about it. It seemed like uh many a years ago.
Seems like what's going on Antonio now? Former NFL player
ball or boss Hall of Famer. Give it to him.
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He gonna be one rested in Florida over the weekend
for child support negligence. Yes, so, Wiltrice Jackson, his ex said,
I'll be having some jokes Wiltris. They don't make that
name no more good lowd what eighteen hundred wiltris? Anyway,
she says she wanted him arrested because of his unpaid
(18:28):
child support. Yes she did, she says, because he quote
unquote has been acting untouchable. Now he owed her thirty
one thousand dollars in unpaid child support, which most people
are thinking Antonio Brown got that right, but he ain't
paying her the child support necessary. So she said he
was making a mockery of the situation and that's why
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she filed because Brown wasn't paying the support. All right,
saw all of that cool, cool, cool. Here's her quote.
I do him arrested because right now he's making a
mockery out of the judge, out of everything because he
feels like he's untouchable. As I said, now, let's talk
about this, because y'all know, I only brought this story
(19:11):
up not to talk about Antonio Brown. Talk about them
damn itty bitties and the turmoil. Those kids are gonna
be raised up on, raised up in and then asked, requested,
demanded to blossom in that soil where these seeds are
going to be stepped on constantly because of this turmoil.
(19:34):
Anybody had to go through situations like this, any of
you guys from separated homes, broken homes, you know what
I'm talking about, or the dynamic that's happening now where
there's involved parents versus present parents, And I'm gonna talk
about that right these scenes is being stepped on daily
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when you have this type of issue. And I know firsthand,
because when you don't have both parents together, both parents present,
there will be some issues gear wrong. Tet and I
love when I talk to other parents, and I love
when we had that cocktail party and people say, no,
I'm an involved parent and we co parent and everything
(20:15):
is fine, And I just sit there and say, must
we be pleasant this whole night? Or can we talk
some gangster shoe because ain't no way. If you've ever
been that kid, or thought of that kid in that
kid's feet, in that kid's shoes, in that kid's mind,
is that kid thinking everything is fine? Give you this example.
Every single day it feels like I have three hundred
(20:38):
and forty seven million decisions to make involving my kids,
and half of them when they're right there present, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy.
I mean, it's in one minute. I hear my name
ten times, if we're talking, if we hanging ten times weapons,
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if you're not there, they say your name. If they
say your name, you're not there, you answered, you heard them.
We talk about this position so often from the parents
level and how well the parents are getting along, good
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or bad about the iteddy biddies. What about the itty
biddies is sitting there like they're now being challenged and
coached to actually not even call out for you because
they know you're not there, or in some real contention situations,
not call out for you because it will make their
(21:41):
situation worse because Mama or daddy don't want to hear
your name. I went through this. One of the reasons
I have an uber commitment to family now is because
of how my family dynamics started. As you guys know,
I have four kids. I would talk about three little
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itdy biddies a lot, but the fourth one older than me.
Morocca is twenty four, but she older than me. Morocca
was born and raised separately from me and her mom.
She lived with her mom most of the time, but
she stayed with her dad some of the time, especially
the early years I had her. At the longest time
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I ever had Morocca was almost a year when she
was like a year two years old. Other than that,
summers other than that, vacations other than that, weekends in
the NFL. And I can speak from experience. And you
know how I can speak from this experience. Not only
(22:45):
would I witnessed, not only what I went through and
how it was tearing me apart, how many times I
was in court paying my child support. Yet this ain't
that story, but damn it, going through it, just paying lawyers,
paying child support, pain, everything, just to try to stay involved.
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But it couldn't be present active player. We broke up,
she's on the other side of the country. WHOA, you're
talking about pain, pain, pain, pain and pain. That's all
I kept doing, and I remember and getting caught up
almost in my pain, my involvement. And then when she
(23:31):
got of age, we started talking about how she felt
lord and she couldn't even go to those places. Fully,
I don't see it. I didn't see it because she
would get lit up with emotion every time she get close,
because she had tucked that away, she already conditioned herself
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to not discuss those things and not reach out, to
not call for daddy because it wasn't always well received.
Just wanted to have a little conversation on this iddy
bitty perspective because parents a lot of themselves and a
lot of their friends in the same dynamic, the same situations,
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thinking we're gonna break up and everything's gonna be smooth.
Speak on this level right here, when that kid who
needs you to rear them, to guide them, doesn't have
you there with your hand on the wheel, where you
think they're going, where you think that vehicle's going out
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of control, wrong lane, going too fast, not properly trained, etc.
Not trying to throw guilt on your parents and trying
to throw reality on your parents, because I've been through it,
the guilt and the reality. Oh man, it's tough. It's tough.
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So all I'm saying is, yay, take these commitments seriously, man,
not only to get into them, but how you try
to unwind and get out of them. But even if
you get out of it, trust me. Do not think
you wearing all white, Do not think you all clean,
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because that itty bitty is crying out for you, even
without showing one tier. Corney caught me slipping again. Oh man,
you know what she called me doing? Poking around in
the crap game, Homies, stick up soft, because I ain't
in the rap game now though ain't out as much
bang out throat cuts standing on stage and I'm grabbing
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my what ice Q When he left n w A
and had that America's Most Wanted album and that song
came out. Poking around in the crap game, Think him soft,
because now I'm in the rap gaming. Do y'all understand
the rhythmic cadence of boom boom boom boo boo boo
(26:06):
boom boom boo boo boo boom boom boom boom boom
bom boom boom boom boom boom. Told your ice QB
help raised me all right now. ESPN used to raise
me too growing up. He had that thing locked in
watching ESPN all day every day. I used to watch
like three spot centers in a row. I'm like, then,
I see that video didn't matter because I was like,
(26:26):
they're gonna say something else different, Three words different made
it all worth watching a whole nother hour of it. Well,
espinned and the relationship with Pat McAfee is all is
going well, let's just say that, but there are some concerns.
Nothing's perfect right and it starts and let me give
you a few examples. They're saying, Okay, we got some
(26:46):
issues here, but we'll figure out how to address them.
Want you guys in the comments to help me figure
out how to address them? Aaron Rodgers amazing, great platform,
Great Aaron Rodgers, it's all blowing up. His opinion sometimes
gets them into the hot water. What you think they
should do about it? Oh, well that's how it goes
right now. The real issue isn't McAfee, and it's not
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Aaron Rodgers. It's not any of us. It's is ping,
as they're saying and suggesting in this article, attempt to
make its ecosystem like basically everybody else more like McAfee
instead of let McAfee just be McAfee and everybody else
be themselves. It seems like now there's this ecosystem pressure
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to be more like McAfee, and that's gonna compromise potentially
the uniqueness of him, and y'all gonna look inauthentic, Like
what is what you're doing? I got some examples here, right,
So we know Adam Schefter and that tweet and his
credibility was taking a hit when he talked about Aaron
(27:52):
Rodgers and that controversial tweet way back, lost a little
trust from his audience. Right, y'all remember that his whole
debate and the COVID vaccine stuff. Like I hope nobody
died on that heel And I mean that like in
terms of the conversation. But some people feel like they
went too far, went to that point, right, and it
(28:13):
was pretty crazy. Uh, let's talk about this situation. His
language no problem because they got all of the delays,
they got the language requests, so they could play around
with it in terms of the technology. Uh, but there
are some situations where you're seeing people say stuff you
didn't expect them to say, like Mike Greenberg maybe damaging
(28:36):
his brand. Now we know who he is and we
know how he talks, and we know that he's straight lined, right,
But now it's like some let's e fing go, Like
where's that coming from? Like what? But let's like let's
efing go. We seen him on game day, his influence.
(28:57):
We've seen other people starting to act up. We've seen
the Phoenix Energy Phoenix Energy. Oh, they got my boy,
Desmond Howard out there doing Penis commercials. It was kind
of crazy. Oh man, call them at the chap h
McAfee clown in Washington State, McAfee clowning teens that they
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ain't got no conference, they ain't got a home. He
clowning a homeless of college sports in these universities, ain't
got no home. So what's happening here is a lot
of moving parts. In terms of moving personalities. You're seeing
guys shift. You're seeing the producers maybe aging them on,
(29:40):
egging them come on over, do a little more, give
me a little more, come on. All that kind of stuff.
And that's the McAfee effect that they're calling it right now. Okay,
so let's talk to this. What's happening now. I didn't
like what the article said in terms of ESPN is
trying to move personalities towards McAfee. Don't blame them bosses
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up there for this one. This ain't that even a journalist.
Sean Kelly says, McAfee's punching down and clowning all these conferences.
College Football's biggest cheerleader and biggest bully is College game
Day because of McAfee all that kind of stuff. Don't
blame ESPN bosses for this one, y'all. Listen to this.
You know what them bosses is doing, sitting back and watching,
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and you know what the talent is doing, looking at
the bosses and singing this song. It's written all over
your face. You don't have to say a word. They
looking at them bosses and say, boss, you ain't gotta
say a word. I'm about to act up, act out
why because of the culture. And what's the culture of ESPN. Now,
(30:55):
what's the culture of any place? It's what's rewarded, So
you reward Pat McAfee eighty five million just to him
who knows aj hawk making and all the rest of
them cats. Right, you give him eighty five million, You
give him more than anybody else who works here on
the daily. Now, ain't talk about Troy Aikman and Joe Buck.
I'm talking about on the Daily more than Steven A.
(31:21):
So their may you know, you know how Dan LeBatard
always says that Skip and stephen A created all these minions,
these grimlins. Yeah, people who want to act like them.
They only want to act like him for one reason
cause they want to get what they got. Duh, that's culture.
So culture has shifted at ESPN. So it's now all right,
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Steven A is gonna get you right there close too.
But Pat McAfee is a whole different animal. Let's see
what that is like. And he gonna create his grimlins,
and he gonna create his minions. Even some people who
are established, like a Mike Greenberg who on this show
and in him. Let's go how it goes boiling that
frog again, right, small subtle little things. Everybody's kind of
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taking their shot to see how it goes this land
and then boss, I ain't doing it because you said so.
But you ain't gotta say a word. Only thing is
I ain't mad at none of that. It's just because
I like Pac McFie. Pat McAfee had me mesmerage watching
that sixty thousand dollars kickoff this weekend and then thirty
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thousand dollars kickoff because the dude got too cocky and
missed the kick. Love it. It's just patrol this, y'all
watch because cask gonna try to figure out, Okay, somebody
and winning, there has to be losers. So if somebody's
thinking they're on a quest to win, they gonna be
seeking for somebody to lose. I don't want it to
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be the sports, the athletes, the ethics. I'm just watching
this one because McAfee already won, and McAfee did it
his way, the right way or authentic way, whatever you
want to call it. Now somebody else with the copycat scheme,
let's just say they ain't gonna go through those same steps, right.
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And it's that pressure to stand out. It's that pressure
to keep up that suggests to these guys to start
acting a little different, doing a little more right. I
remember what the pressure for us used to be. Do
you want to be first, or you want to be right,
remember that, like stories just couldn't wait to say it, like, oh,
I don't know, I don't know if it's fully checked,
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fully vetted. I'm just saying it, and everybody want to
be first, not right. Then that kind of phased out,
and there are always these urges to act up and
act out and to be the first, because you know
the rewards. Like I even felt them, the temptations like man,
I'm just about to act get this money. I was like,
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I'm making good money. Actually, I'm making great money. I
can make great money if I just act up. I
was like, man, that ain't it. That ain't it right?
So I see it all the time, and I always
go back to what trained me. Y'all used to watch
Looney Tunes, Bugs Bunny, y'all used to watch that Member
(34:09):
Days had that tortoise and hair race every I don't know,
it's felt like every month one race was a tortoise
in hair. The tortoise and that hair be saying he
run through the town and that tortoise go, it's a crackout.
(34:30):
And I was like, why am I sitting there watching
this when I know the outcome? He can't win. And
I really don't know how he used to win, But
that tortoise would beat that hair every time that hair
go all around that damn town doing all this. I
don't know if he got lost and he got caught
up or he was stopping at the bar hollering at
the homies and hollering at old girl. He never beat
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that tortoise, And that used to train me to be like,
patience is a virtue. So let's see how impatient cats
at ESPN will become because McAfee passed them up in
terms of the rewards. So therefore the culture has now
shifted to pat McAfee. Y'all tell me what do y'all
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think about ESPN? And like the content right now? You
see this shift that they were reporting in this article.
Are you like now everything's seen the same? I don't know.
I mean they're just cursing a little more cursing on
Greenberg Show, right, And what are the challenging benefits of
incorporating those type of personalities? You know, this is a
smart show. We like to talk about things that others
(35:33):
don't talk about. So I love to see what you
guys think about that. Ah, what time is it. I'm
not gonna lie. This one's gonna be one of my favorites.
Put this one on the mount rushmore of my role ins.
What time is it? Six? Send the more than police
satl Thou fresh Shedida squeak across that bath from flow WHOA.
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I never gang bag in my life, never inclined, never
was seduced. However, that was the closest I ever got.
When I her iced Tea hit that No. Six like
it's time to start cripping, I was like, what is this?
That was an amazing song. Man, Love that dude for
that song right there and the beat that he got
from my man over there in the East Coast PSK
or something like that. Respect to both of y'all. All right,
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speaking of respect, respect now to Pro Football Dog, because
it's time to bring in doctor David Child, who looks good,
but I know he can't feel that good because he's
still a Charger fan at heart. Tell me how you feel, Doc.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'm certainly not as big a Chargers fan as that
lady they kept showing on TV last night. I mean,
she got more cameos, and she got more cameos than
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Do I not know?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Something she got. Is she the Asian twa Taylor Swift?
I don't know. Tell me what was that.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I was at the game, so I didn't get to
see her. What was it they doing that AI stuff
again or who was it?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No, they kept showing a fan in the at the game.
It's it's all over the internet. They kept showing the
same fan like seven times. It was just all this
emotion and everything else. It was kind of interesting. I mean,
they showed her a lot. I really think they showed
her more than Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey game. I don't
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know what that was right there. She was very emotional.
And here's the other thing is there's a lot of
talk now, Marcellus, you're missing it all. Was she an
actor or was she a plant? Or was she real? Cause,
let me tell you, I get where people were saying
that because A she was in a suite B by
the sixth time they went back to her. How does
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she not have any friends? Like no one else was
mugging for the cameras or doing everything. I mean, I mean,
did you ever get a shot of Taylor Swift where
there was no one sitting around her or standing around her?
I mean, there's always people I don't know who knows.
I don't know what the whole deal was.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, Doc, you know, I went to one of the
games and they had this AI some movie coming out
with AI and had these fake real robot, fake people,
real people and it was like a thing. So maybe
they're trying to now hide that but still promote that.
So maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And no, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, you got to see her, but nobody has seen
Deshaun Watson in a while. And that's the start of
this segment with us. Let's clean up on our four
as you tell me what's going on with Deshaun Watson
in this mess.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
There's a lot of cleanup to go on here. In
no way, shape or form, am I saying Deshaun Watson
doesn't want to play or he pulled the fast on
the team. In no way am I saying the Browns
are doing something wrong with the doctor. But there's something
that doesn't make sense. Let's recap it here. Week three.
He finishes the game, plays pretty well, takes a hit
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in the third quarter near the goal line on the
right shoulder, direct contusion, and I actually think he's gonna
play week four just contusion, even though he was limited
in practice Week four. Right before the game, he warms
up and says he can't play, and then we learn
Kevin Stefanski had coach says he was cleared to play medically.
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And then we find out dtr his rookie backup, found
out right before the game that he was the starter.
And then there was a bye week, and then GM
Andrew Berry says, oh no, it was a joint decision.
They didn't play. And then coming off the by he
didn't practice at all and didn't play, and he hasn't
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spoken the media yet. So I'm just saying there's lots
of questions. I mean, Marcellus, you having played the game,
how big of a situation is it if a player
is in theory, ready to go playing and starting to
play and then surprises the team or is a surprise inactive.
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I mean, that's a big shift. I mean, I don't
know what happened there, but something happened.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
All right, Doc, Well, he hasn't spoken Deshaun Watson just yet,
so we're going to allow that to happen before we
have full clarity in this situation. Well, some people that
were speaking and we saw yesterday with their hands instead
of their words. A lot of fights. We saw some
pregame scuffles over the weekend. Chargers even had a fight
with the Cowboys until the game started. Then they stopped
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fighting as much. Let me stop, but tell me. I
saw Echoler get pushed in the face. Didn't get pussed
in the head.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
What happened the side of the head. His helmet popped off.
I thought it was washing. I thought it was going
back to my childhood, Rock them sock them robots. You
ever have that game where you and the head pops
up and he got jaw jact and his helmet flew
off his head. I thought it was that video, that
little game that we used to have. Look, I don't know.
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I mean, I'm not sure what's happened. It has been
like three incidents is recently pregame. I mean, way back
in the day, I thought referees are supposed to be
on the field. I've got referees during all warm up
adjudicated everything. I'm surprised none of these have resulted in
any penalties or anything yet. I mean, there's been three
in this last week of pregame.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
You know why, Doc, They're not gonna kick them boys out.
This is too much of an entertainment product. NFL has
now transformed from being just the biggest sport in our
country to not only the biggest television product, but it's
our biggest entertainment product. So like, now, who is going
to the concert to not see Taylor Swift perform? Right,
(41:19):
So Austin next, All these dudes know it now, It's
almost impossible to get kicked out of a game unless
you really do something crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Now, the NFL's invading the Olympics, right, flag football and
Gronk wants to play. What are the chances you think
Gronk is on the Olympic flag football team in twenty
twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Ah Man, no chance at all. Matter of fact, two
thousand and eight, Gronk wouldn't have been a good flag
football player, Like y'all gotta think flag football player. I
want nothing but skinny dudes, little dudes, quick dudes, shifty dudes.
I do not need Gronk labor. He can't block it.
Would he gonna do body somebody up? That's not the
same thing. It's a whole different skill set. So I
don't even think he's a Hall of fame flag football player,
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even though he was a beast in real football. Oh,
let's talk about that. You just took me into just
like the international mindset. What's the feasibility of the NFL
really putting the team in London? A lot of smoke
around that, and we see Jacksonville there every other week.
It seemed like.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I've been saying for years, the travel is feasible. Think
about it.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
If you're in.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Buffalo, New York, is the travel closer to London or
to la If you're in Miami, is the travel closer
to London or to Seattle? Right now? It would be
a beast for Seattle teams to go over there. But
and what's proving my point is this time the Jaguars,
as you mentioned, stayed there and played two consecutive games.
(42:45):
Right They flew out there late in the week, played,
stayed the next week, played, and then came home an
evidence Part two. A lot of teams are just flying
out there on Friday now, no longer staying the week.
Number three, All the teams that came back from London,
except for the Tennessee Titans, elected to not have their
(43:08):
bye week after London game. And you the league gives
you the choice, right, and so I think that's more
evidence than it's it's the creep. And and you know,
now we have the Frankfurt games right to Germany games,
and we all know NFL Europe in the end became
NFL Germany, right, those are the only teams that were
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left in Germany. I see a situation where it's kind
of like the Green Bay Packers have the Milwaukee season
ticket package, the Jacksonville Jaguars may have a two or
four game London season ticket package, right, kind of deal
because of you know the game. That's look, you got
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to keep growing the game if you want that salary
cap to keep growing. And that's how they hand out
contracts based on the salary cap. And the salary cap
is tied to what TV revenue, so you need bigger audiences.
At some point, everyone who has any remote interests in
America is already watching the football game. So how do
you grow the game? It's the international side. So I
see it coming, and I see it even being easier
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when the NFL, I think, inevitably goes to see if
you agree with this, and evily goes to an eighteen
game regular season, but two bye weeks. What will that do?
It gives you twenty weeks of TV football. It opens
up Thursday night football teams off of bye week, so
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there's no short rest. It would open up Wednesday football, right,
I mean if you're pairing teams coming off off off
buys and so forth, and the revenue is more on
off of TV than in person. So I think when
the NFL goes to eighteen games, they're going to go
to two bye weeks and get the revenue and put
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one by week early in the season one later in
the season.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah. They try to just get more inventory, and the
only way to get more inventory is to expand it.
And as you expanded not only in a number of games,
but also in territory, get outside your borders, recruit new fans,
new perspectives. All of that stuff is true, and what
unlocked it for me is simple. When I saw the
schedule that Jacksonville was going to London and then the
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next game is in London, I was like, Oh, this
is how they boil the frog, right, you make the
water too hot, the frog ain't even go hop in
there too hop But if you just put them in
some warm room temperature water, just turn it up a
little bit. He stays there boils. They just turning it
up on us just a little. Oh, Jacksonville just had
consecutive weeks in London. Who knew? I'm like, yeah, you knew,
(45:44):
and then next thing you know, it's gonna be the
damn London Jaguars or something of that nature. Let's switch
gears right here, Doc. A lot of injuries. Let's just
go right to your wheelhouse first and foremost, especially at
the quarterback position. I was sitting there watching Justin Herbert
with a non throwing hand, broken finger affect his throwing.
(46:05):
It look like we got Aaron Rodgers already from day one,
play number four, Justin Fields, de Shaun Watson, etc. Seem
like half the quarterbacks are hurt. Tell me what your
take is on this.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
There aren't. Half the quarterbacks literally have been hurt. I
mean Ryan Tannehill, Trevor Lawrence is questionable for this Thursday
after that Gator role on his leg and knee. There
have been a lot of quarterback injuries. Kenny Pickett had
the mcl Yaki goes on and on. Literally half the teams,
not barely a third of the way through the season,
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over half the teams have had a quarterback injury of
some sort, some with longer lesson. Jimmy Garoppolo miss time
with a concussion and now is injured. Derek Carr had
the ac joint spring. I mean, the list goes on
and on and on in this brutal game. That's why
the league tries to protect those quarterbacks. Justin Herbert you
mentioned last night, here's how it affect his game. I
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don't think it affected his peer passing ability, but it
affected I laughed at this. I don't know if you
noticed this. I said all week, Justin Herbert's going to
be fine coming off a bye. He's going to be
better with the finger, but he's going to be exclusively
in shotgun. First play from scrimmage under center, the rest
of the game from shotgun. That's the Hey, we're going
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to show Dallas that we're not exclusively shotgun. It's sort
of like the quarterback that can't throw along. I remember
Marcus Marriott a couple of years back. I was telling
her he can't throw along. First series boom, long pass,
way off the mark. But then, okay, now you got
to respect that he can throw long, even though he's
just going underneath and how it affected the game is
I think it's all you tell me. I think it's
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a lot harder, especially against the stout Dallas defense, to
run out of shotgun than it is to run out
from under center. And that might have effect affected Austin
Eckler's effectiveness, even though I think his ankle was fine.
And I think it also affected the game a little
bit because the week that he hurt the fan, Justin
Herbert ran a sneak and didn't get it because he
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couldn't hold the ball out with two hands. He was
in his belly. And if you notice on the two
fourth and one key plays, they were in shotgun. I
don't know about you. I don't like the shotgun look
from fourth and one. I mean, you want to have
the thread of the sneak and then throw and go outside.
If you're in shotgun, they're in spread for you. Right,
It's a whole different deal. And that was dictated by
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the other finger. And there were times when he fell
and got knocked down where no one falls. No one
falls down with your hand up in the air unless
you're trying to protect your hand. So kudos to Justin
Herbert for playing through but it did have some effect
on the game, even though it was his non drawing hand.
And a lot more to come here. Justin Fields is
extended absence dislocated thumb. Look what makes us different than
(48:45):
everyone else every other animal? Right is a posable thumb.
If you don't have an ipposable thumb, you can't grip it,
you can't spin it. Justin Fields is going to be
out for an extended period of time with that dislocated thumb,
and hopefully he avoid surgery. Anthony Richards and looks like
he's headed for shoulder surgery. There's just a lot going on,
and that just shows how valuable the quarterback position is.
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And this is why they set up all the rules
to protect the quarterback. But what's the problem here. The
problem is quarterbacks are only protected in the pocket. But
all the quarterbacks now in the days extend plays and
do stuff outside the pocket. And how do you protect
them outside the pocket? That's different. Like our boy Philip Rivers,
(49:27):
you know, had his long streak of all these games
because that man stayed in the pocket, right, He wasn't
trying to run out of the pocket.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
That's all he had. Right, Spin it like this and
I ain't moving anywhere. You could have literally designed a
concrete structure of three feet straight back. That's Philip Rivers
right there, just right there, darting man. Appreciate you. Kudos
to all these quarterbacks who are wrapped in bubble wrap,
protected in the pocket, still out there getting slay because
football hurts every single day and every single way. And
(49:58):
kudos to you Doc for showing up for your boy
this week on our Tuesday therapy session. We'll check in
with you next week. Brother, Thank you, all right, appreciate you,
big dog. I love that man. I just sit back.
I don't know how long he is on their twenty
thirty minutes, but I try to get in as few
words as possible because everything he says he is educating
(50:20):
me and you guys as well. All right, let's get
to funking up some comments. Funking up some comments. Yeah
all right. Stephen A. Smith, Oh yeah, that was yesterday.
When it comes to handling business, Stephen A. Smith is
like Alonzo and training day. Oh wow, no you didn't.
He says he's your friend, got a lot of respect
for you, knowing you for years, etc. But he really
(50:42):
he'll take you out of any time to make himself
look good. Wow, hey, I see some of that in
you because I shout out to Dreamers Pro. We ever
watched them on YouTube amazing podcast in terms of hours view.
That's my favorite podcast on YouTube. Go to Dreamers Pro.
Shout out to what they do. But at the same time,
(51:04):
he always talks about how stephen A always leads with
I like them, I like them, this ain't personal. I
like him, And then what that's kind of funny. I'm
gonna keep it real. This story about stephen A versus
Max Kellerman got me invested, and I can even say
versus Max because Max hasn't said a word. I find
it very interesting from steven a point of view. Why
would he continue to talk about a coworker that he
(51:26):
got up out of there and said, coworker hasn't said
anything about the situation. Come on them. We already know that.
Three things are interesting to me. Firstly, how many people
are involved Whitlock, Wiley, Lebtard. Second, no one is coming
to his defense. And lastly, when to said what he said,
that was it. Stephen A may be the king, but
(51:47):
be what we are seeing now heavy is the head
that where's the crown? Preach. I don't rock with Whitlock,
but I respect him because he stands on what he says.
Whitlock stands on what he says better than anybody I've
seen in this industry. Like, and that doesn't mean you
don't change your opinion. It just means I said what
(52:08):
I said, Bro, like what you want, Like, you know,
you can tell some people talking it, but like they're
waiting really for your response to solidify what they said,
not were like he just said it, Bro. I respect
that We're Lock is tripping blaming Max. Stephen A. Smith
is the only one minimizing Max. Steven A Smith multiple
times disrespecting Max on air. Yeah, I mean the word
(52:30):
trying is the only thing that was Wilock saying Max
wasn't trying and it just happened. Point being, I think
that was the only part that was like a little miscommunicated.
Appreciate your addressing this Jason situation. Keywords here are my perspective.
I think this entire situation is based on different perspectives
and different outlooks on what's wrong or right, and less
about lies and truth. Just my opinion. Yeah, a lot
(52:53):
of cliches in there, but I know what you're saying.
We're just telling you what it is. You know, I'm
telling you what I saw. Stephen A could you know?
And Max, he ain't gonna tell you nothing. You ain't
gonna say nothing. He gonna write a book. Max's gonna
write a book and get paid off it. That's what
he's gonna do. Gonna keep it real. I can't do
the bathroom stuff. My wife started doing that open door
bodily function stuff and I had to put a stop
(53:14):
to it. Too gross for my taste. Hmmm, the voice
papers in the mill. Now, I'm just saying, if you
can't take raw and real from your significant other, if
you make them have to get like proper just to
be that's heavy doog like may hold your nose and
look away, or like let her live and let you live.
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Like if I can't launch, why excuse me? And we
what are you doing? I'm like, oh God, are we
still dating? You know what I mean? Nah? Primetime, the
complaint about the late kickoffs is just something coach Prime
is gonna have to deal with. For college football to boom,
Thursday and Friday primetime games become a thing. These schools
and conferences made money doing so it's not disappearing. Uh huh.
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More money that means you about to do more to
get more money. The n IDL deals look great, except
them kids got to do community service. You ain't gonna
just I ain't just giving you money. Oh you're gonna
work with some kids. You ever talk to them kids
an IO deal? They gotta like hide it under service.
It ain't. It ain't always hitting. You gonna work for
it too. As well. Wiley was spot on when describing
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going to another place when he talked about seeing a
teammate actually hurt and then you wake up. I got
chills cuz I know exactly what he was talking about
and never realized when I played, because going there with
second nature. Great explanation, Wiley, appreciate you, man. Yeah, I
didn't recognize it either. When I played that, I was
like going to alternate universes, like different dimensions of life.
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But then when I retired, I was like, Yo, whatever
I just went through for the last twenty five years
ten professionally was different. And now when I go to
the games, like yesterday, I'm sitting there and I'm just
sitting there watching these mammals run around and he each
other especially from our perspective because we got the end
zone shot. So I get to see plays develop, like
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that's how we watch film. I love watching plays develop
right from the back of his eyes. And they were
on the goal line. They gave a ball to Austin
Echeler that sucker round in there, and it was like this,
I'm not lying. Austin Necker got the ball. Even my
son and my wife were like, I could just see
it in there. I was like, and my wife turned
around she was like yeah. I was like, yeah, that
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was just one play, baby, It's different out there on
that field. All right, y'all, y'all know how we finished
this show. We finished it every day with a what
Lee ism. Yeah, feelings only come before truth in the dictionary. Yes,
this is some coaches talk. Feelings only come before truth
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in the dictionary. I remember seeing that red dot on
the screen before, and you don't want that red dot
on you too often because coach ain't usually giving out compliments.
Usually that red dot is to teach, and he only
teaches two problems. So here we go, and he got
that red dot on you. He shake, he said, look
at here, right here, Wiley, and he is strictly talking
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about what happened. Don't catch feelings. He's saying, this is
what you need to do, and this is the truth,
and it's gonna hurt. But don't catch feelings. And if
you don't catch feelings, only time they come before. This
truth is in the dictionary. I remember sitting there because
you know your coach behind you doing this. You're seeing
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that red dout. You're like, all right, dog, I get it,
I get it, I get it. Yeah, I get it. Yeah,
But you ain't saying this. You're just like thinking, like,
all right, you made your point. Oh why you're getting louder.
I ain't even saying nothing back, yes, coach, Yeah, all right,
you got her. Yep, all right, no problem, norm Yep,
I get it. Yep. Next time we're gonna do it right, Yep.
You're trying to move on. He like, nah, shaking that
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thing you and your feelings, huh he and that truth?
Which one should come first? Which one gonna win? So
what happens like that, not just in the film session,
not just in the film room, but in life. I
know what happens to me and my relationship all the time.
My wife does something and it gets me and my feelings.
I got some weird triggers. I got one trigger that
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I don't like the house to be loud until everyone
is up. So that's kind of tough to always have
the police because I got a three year old, a
four year old to eight year old, and a loud wife.
So if the wife wakes up first, she just I
don't know how she was raised. They just stomping through
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the house like I'm up, so everybody else better be up.
I'm like, baby, the kids are still sleeping. Oh yeah,
like I just told her something she ain't know, Like
she just totally leaves that place. Then the boy gets
up and he want to bottle flip let's go, and
then he want to play with all his toys and
stuff Bay Blade Tournament. I'm like, you here, allowed, that
is your sister's still sleep? You looking at me? He
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he doing what I did in that film room. Doll
cursed me in his head, like all right, dad, like
his feelings. The little one gets up, Oh it's a rap.
She ain't listening anyway, but it's rap. Other one gets up,
middle child. Oh, now y'all all can be loud because
everybody else but before that, I'm trying to police that
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and everybody in their feelings. But everybody kind of calms
down because they realize I'm telling the truth. Happens in
your world all the time as well, right, especially in relationships.
Somebody tell you something real and you just don't want
to hear it, and even if you do want to
hear it, just don't feel good. Right, But just remember
this one. Feelings only come before truth in the dictionary.
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All right, y'all. That'll do it. For More to It,
check the show notes for all the information on our
topics today today. Want to keep the conversation going, Let's talk.
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