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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Did I do that right?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Did I do it right?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
All?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Y'all?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
La people out there know what I'm talking about. Please
go to the foundation's website and just leave your email, Okay,
keep it simple. And you know it's crazy since I
see the back end. I see who's leaving their email
who's not. But I also see who leads a donation
or recurring donation which enters you into all the sweet
states and you're always involved, always a part of the team,
(00:57):
but any level.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Man. I just appreciate the support. The kids appreciate it
even more.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Check out what we're doing in the community because I
don't like the brag, but I certainly like to boast
about these itty biddies getting better. And that's what we're
up to, all right. You know we start off every
show with what's up with that?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Dude? I'm in atl shouty, shout out to Daddy fast Action.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
What it lived at and Andre three thousand somewhere around here.
I assume I'm in atl and Atlanta, you know, dirty South.
What I noticed about Atlanta is it's real and it's
real country. So like I mean, I called an uber
from the airport to the hotel and this was the
dirtiest uber ever and he was proud of it, so
(01:40):
proud that it was like I shouldn't care because look,
I like it this way, this how I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Pushing it home. You good back there.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
He didn't said a word to me. It was just
completely different than my La uber experience. Look at me
getting the taste of Atlanta culture the uber ride right now.
But I'm here for Danny Wirfol's foundation. We're here to
obviously raise some awareness race funds for his foundation, but
played some pickleball as well, so got to catch up
with a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Saw Eric Decker here, good looking dude, great dude. Right,
he's not. He's a real cool cat.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
John Brinkiss, you know, my partner and Brink's TV the founder.
But also just to homie, he crazy. He got so
many dog stories. I mean, god, dang him and dogs
need to just be separated for real. Crips bloods, y'all
just stay away from each other.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Right man.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And it was hilarious because he called me out in
front of everybody. Remember I told Joe if well, I
didn't really say this explicitly. I just I put it
out there, like MJ got the game ball from j C.
Jackson when he got the interception, right, Well, some people
took that ass MJ caught that ball. Well MJ didn't
catch the ball. But also I didn't catch the ball either. No, Lie,
(02:48):
that's not really went that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So j C. Jackson's running towards us. I'm like, is
he looking at me? He really looking at me?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Snapple's up.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Jay said, I ain't never met jac Jackson in my life,
but salute to you, brother, You're a charger.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And then he just threw the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Now he threw it into the section, but it felt
like he threw it to me.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I was in a notebook or something looking at him like, oh,
throw that ball. I'm crying, and tre yes to me
the ball all right. So then the ball comes, but
I got a cell phone in his hand. I got
MJ kind of tugging, kind of like hype, got a
bunch of people in the section, and I'm just looking back.
I just I'm in disbelief for real, like in your dreams,
you know, all of a sudden, you're getting chased by
a monster and you can't run. It felt like that,
(03:26):
like all a sudden, I just lost my faculties. I
was like, oh, the balls are there around and literally
the ball landed like a pillow, like a butterfly, and
I just dropped it and immediately fight a flight kicked
in because when I dropped it, I was like, I'm
gonna pick this ball back up. But then the Piranha
came all the fans and they were trying to get it.
(03:49):
So I ain't gonna lie confidence in the house. I
grabbed former d lines in the house. I grabbed Then
all of a sudden, I just dropped everything. I grabbed the
ball because I was thinking of MJ for real, and
that moment was like, I lose this ball because you
are forty eight years old, never called a football in
your damn life, never caught a baseball in your damn life.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Obviously not a basketball. You gotta throw it ey right back,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So I was like, I ain't never been in this
position before, and your son is looking up to you,
little symbol looking up to me, mufossa, and I'm gonna
drop the damn ball. Fos did die in front of
symbol though, No, no, no, not in front of.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The symbol, all right. Scar got him on the side,
all right.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
So the point is I was like, Tam, don't drop
the balls off, And then I grabbed that ball and
I start doing this to start throwing them Ludacris Atlanta,
throw them balls on them and got everybody clear. They
were like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey hey buddy, hey, hey,
So gave him Jay the ball. Why bring that story up?
Because John Brinks brought the story up his old sports
science ass.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He figured it out.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He kind of put details together because nobody knew the
real story unless you were there. So that was hilarious. Well,
speaking of being there, it seems like everyone, at least
in our country right now, if you're a college football fan,
is trying to get to Boulder, Colorado. Yes, because who
doesn't want to see what Dion is cooking out there?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's funny because I know now because everybody name Mama
telling you about it. They're coming to LA They're going
to UCLA and my boys the ad at UCLA. And
I haven't asked him for tickets because I just don't
want to get in that line of people.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Just hey, by the way, Martin, uh can I get them?
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But we about to play pick a ball next weekend,
so maybe uh he'll offer some tickets.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You know how that goes now?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I mean, but it's just the biggest show in every
town right now, and right now we know where it
goes down in Boulder, Colorado. So it's pretty cool to
see this Dion Sanders, who was seen as unconventional for
the head coaching job at one point in his career,
like remember that's why I had to go to Jackson State.
People backing like, oh, you know, down for the calls
(05:47):
and they used BECU Yeah yeah, yeah. But also he
had to go there right to prove that he was
worthy for those who were naysayers and.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The dollars out there. So he did obviously and did.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He took the job, which was a promotion to go
to University of Colorado, even though it's still not a
power school like Alabama or Florida State where he wanted
to coach. You know, the level, it ain't top tier.
They used to be though in the nineties Hagen be enemy.
Don't tell me they want top tier then. But now
he has brought it to prominence. He has brought it
(06:20):
to the point where it's a destination not just for
the college football prospect and those athletes, but people like
Lil Wayne Off set up in the building the Rock.
Who else was there? Master p Kawhi Leonard was even there?
Nobody knew that, right, Kawhi went there in the same word,
but Kawhi Leonard been in the building, cal Lowry, etc.
(06:41):
Everybody is going there. We saw stephen A there, she
had a sharp there, etc. Everybody's going there, and now
the players are going there. So with that comes higher expectations.
With the higher expectations comes the possibility of, hey, can
we take this all the way to a national title.
The answer is yes, I want to know why the
Big Twelve likely offering an automatic bid in the future
(07:04):
for the college football playoff format increases their chances and
makes it promising for them to actually make it to
the playoffs and actually do it all. Now it's all
on the players. You know, you can say what you want.
How many celebrities here? Litl Wange walked us out the
songs and bang a million? Yeah, yeah. All you gotta
do is win twelve, win twelve mans. You gotta win
(07:24):
a million, twelve and twelve and twelve, and you go
twelve and oh whatever it may be, Your ass is
up in that college football playoffs and let's see how
you do. So it's interesting Dion is now being asked
it so early, Isin't it crazy? How fast thing changed?
When things are going bad, all of a sudden, they
just snowball and it feels like they just keep going bad.
But Dion ain't that type of person, right, He doesn't
(07:46):
take no for an answer. So he went to Jackson State,
made that great. All of a sudden, he left there
going to Colorado immediately making that great. So now how
great can it get? They're asking him, are you gonna
stay here? Because it does feel there is a lower
shiling at Colorado than if you were at Alabama. You
ain't going to Alabama, but Alabama like tip program.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, the A and M may be up for
grabs now because et cetera.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
So we'll see point being, are you gonna go to
the tip top or you just gonna stay where you are.
Let me give you something that was some of the
most sage advice I ever received in my life and
changed my fortunes and changed my life.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Matt Columbia University on my recruiting trip.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So I went to all the other football schools and kind
of factories and getting seduced like everybody else. I mean, dude,
you show up, you know, you're on UCLA's campus.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You're looking around, You're like, damn, this is dope. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You went to the games and it was seventy eighty
ninety thousand there and attendance. Then you go to Columbia
it's all lowly. You know, it's different in terms of
the athletics. You know, you go to the stadium, you're
looking at like, oh, I've seen some high schools in
Texas look bigger than this.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know what I mean? It is what it is.
It is in New York City.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But I remember going to the top of the Empire
State Building and our coach Ray Tailor, with the back
drop of the New York City skyline, says to us, men,
now he already had me. You men, I was only
like seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That was just men.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
All right, Uh, do you want to go somewhere and
carry the torch? Or do you want to go somewhere
and light the torch? In my mind, I signed right
there with Columbia. I was locked in. I think that's
where Dion is facing right now. Does he want to
go somewhere and carry the torch to be the next coach?
You know, imagine if he does go to A and M.
(09:30):
Because they've struggled with all these great talents they have
and top recruiting classes, they still can't get over their hum. Okay,
we're gonna go don and we're gonna throw him twenty
million a year. We're gonna get all that mail Tucker
money that Michigan State man go to Michigan State. Is
that bigger? But the point is, God, leave mail Tucky
and trouble so we get all that money, we throw
it to DM. We double up on DM right, twenty
(09:50):
million a year. Whatever you want, carbonlos, private jets, everything, everything.
But why would do y'all leave now? If the potential
is here? Where are you going? And everywhere you go
there you are you Dion baby, They coming to you.
That's how you gotta think. If I want it out there,
I just show it from in here because it's already there.
Oh man, I hope Deon State is still at Colorado.
(10:11):
Why because I just I want him to prove this model.
I selfishly want him to prove that you could go
anywhere and do anything.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm a big believer in that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I literally they said, risked it all in terms of
my athletic career. You went to the sorriest football program
in the country. Columbia football was before I got there.
Now Prairie View A and M has since taken that title.
But the point is I went there, and I went
there because Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, all these other players
(10:41):
that I saw go to small schools. I said, hey,
if you good enough, you can get there from here.
We had a guy, John Starts, He made it to
the NFL before he was one of the Washington Redskins hogs,
one of the offensive linemens.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So in the eighties he made it before.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I look, I was just like dog New York City,
my local newspapers, the New York Times worldwide distribution. Every
Sunday after our games, someone in Japan has read about
how old Marsh's has seven tackles two sacks. Pretty good,
you know what I mean? Like he didn't say it
like that, he speak of Japanese. But point being, man,
come on, man, like, stop limiting yourself, like you gotta
(11:20):
be in pole position to win the race.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Happy nice?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But it also, hey, just put me in the race
world record in the four hundred meters. Y'all know my
track references, my favorite thing, track and field lane.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Eight way out by himself. Right. We just saw sh
Carrie win a race line eight lay nine.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Come on, y'all forget as long as you're in the
race and believe in yourself. Oh, it's gonna come to
you with the law of attraction. So what do you
guys think about Deon Sanders. Do you think he stays
at Colorado continues to build that coaching legacy there, or
should he go to a more traditional, higher tier college
football program or the likes of Brider And if you're
(12:00):
bright with the bright lights so we just can't see
your baby just do it too much? Or should he
just stay still?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Right? And in what ways? Also?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Is Dion just Dion his energy his prowess benefit in
college football? Beat that up in the comments for me, guys,
got to check that out.
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I don't like the brag, but damn it, I boast
I love them itty biddy's getting better.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Let's talk through.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
This Sean Wathston who needs to get better, just frankly
needs to get better. He's still struggling. And there's one
word for it, and I'm gonna tell you later. Okay,
So let's talk about with Deshaun Watson last night. We
saw him his night started off with a pick six.
Go back that way. Now, it wasn't all his fault,
but he wasn't on the same page with tight end
Harrison Bryant. So all of a sudden, that turns into
(13:21):
points for the Steelers. So we watched him play last
night Monday Night Football. Kind of weird having both games
on at the same time. I don't know what experiment
going on. Please tell me that in the comments is
there are Are they really like, oh, we're losing viewership
and we got to double up or are they just
scheduling issues because this ain't week one where we had
that doublehead of before in the year's past.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I ain't get that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Anyway, Let's talk about that he threw that pick six
and then just had an off night. Man also had
two penalties. We saw that he went twenty two or
forty for two thirty five passer rating of seventy three
total turnovers, lost his Steelers.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And it's interesting in this whole time with the Browns.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We know the eleven game suspension, right, and that came
from all the issues in Texas, not only on in
the building because of what's going on upstairs and him
and they had their dynamic, but whatever was going on
on those massage tables, it seemed like worldwide, real bad
issue for Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So how do we get here?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
How does a guy all of a sudden it just
seems like not forgot how to play football, but forgot
who he was playing football, right, Like he's still playing football,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Some guys were actually bad for these numbers. Not many.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
He's twenty six in the NFL right now in QBR.
If you add up all of the games from last
year after the eleven game suspension and this year right
twenty six, there are a lot of guys better than
him that shouldn't be better than him.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sam Darnold's one of those guys. You know, you look around,
you're like.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Damn better than Sam right now, right And we know
that's led to him bouncing around. Just to give you
a little perspective, there's a lot of guys on the
list when you're twenty six that you should be beaten,
especially when you're making two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed.
So Deshaun Watson may have forgotten who he was as
(15:19):
a football player, but his agent he did his thing,
David bligheda remind everyone what you did.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Now it's up to Deshaun Watson to live up to that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But I really want to talk about Deshaun Watson and
what he's going through psychologically, because that's what's going on.
If you guys watched them pregame, he had his performance
coach next to him. He was doing some deep meditation
and breathing exercises, etc.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It's really trying to focus in on the present.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Why simple because DeShawn especially can't go backwards, can't look
in the past of his greatness and his play, or
he can't look in the past in terms of his
indiscretions and issues because because all those things won't pay
it forward, They won't pay anything for what Da Shawn
needs to do going forward.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They won't They won't help them.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Why because all that greatness before was a cocktail mix
of a DaShan that he's trying to forget that's the problem.
And this is what Tiger Woods went through as well.
So when you ball out of control, you do something
of this level of scandal, you get ridiculed to this point.
Then all of a sudden you try to throw out
everything from there because you're trying to change who you
(16:31):
are a new direction. Well, you're gonna be advised to
let it all go.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Letting it all go means leaving the good and the bad,
throwing out the baby.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
With the bath water.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Right, there's some good moments in there too, but because
Dashawn got publicly ridiculed, then he had to throw out
the good Dashon with the bad Dushon.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
There's one word that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Describes what Dashawn is going through and why he right
now can't get to that place where he's in the
present and the present is new defined as great as
his past was on the field. That one word is shame.
He's dealing with shame. Let me tell you what that is,
As a therapist once told me, it's the most everlasting
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emotion we have, shame. And you think about it, you know,
shame doesn't get top tier status in terms of our emotions.
We talk about anger a lot, we talk about hate,
a lot. You know, you could talk about a lot
of frustration gets more credit and talk about talked about
than shame.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But shame. Shame is constant. Man. Let me tell you
what shame is.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Shame for Deshaun Watson is the constant reminder of indiscretion.
Shame is the constant reminder of failure. Shame is the
constant reminder of they will always look at you differently
and if you can't reconcile what they're thinking, well, who
(17:56):
you really are? If this doesn't overwhelm that, if the
inside is not more powerful than the outside, you will
always be in that tug of war. There're gonna be
moments when this wins. It's gonna be a moments when
they win, but it's always gonna be a struggle.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And that's what shame is. Shame will make you struggle.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Through life always with a different lens of trying to
receive what others have given you, even if they a
trying to give it to you. You ever been ashamed
or something? Walk into a room. What you're looking at?
I'm actually admiring your chain?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Nice chain?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Can I see if that's your son, that's your family?
Pretty girls, dudes who did wrong. Everybody whoever has been
shamed before, Like, look she wearing all of a sudden,
So when you walk into the next room, they ain't
even thinking about what you're wearing. What what y'all looking at?
And you're like, oh, you're beautiful, we think you're beautiful.
Oh that last room, don't your shoes were messed up.
(18:48):
See how it goes. So shame has Deshaune watching one
throwing out all the good to shine with the baddshone
because he doesn't want the badd shine instead of going
in there and for performing sir like psychological surgery, which
maybe he is and he's still in rehab of it,
but right now, but we're seeing on the football field
one doesn't warrant what he got in terms of opportunity,
(19:11):
in terms of that fully guaranteed contract, et cetera, none
of that. But worse for me is we're not seeing
him display his talent. We're not seeing him anymore. You know,
I don't even I haven't seen him personally since all
of this went down, so I don't know what kind
of person he is is. He's still admitting that light,
but I just know in terms of him on the
(19:32):
field and some of his teammates are already caped up
for him, saying, Oh, we're gonna be a different version
of the Sean this year. Oh man, you could just
see it, you could just feel it. We don't see it,
and I just won't. I'm only doing this video because
I hate to see talent wasted and and I hate
to see that he's going through methods and means that
(19:53):
it's not giving him the results he desires. It's a
healing process, sure, but you're gonna almost have to cancel
out those opinions or so stop assuming that all those
opinions are what they are. But that's how it goes.
Like you know, when you go through scandal, it's two ways.
It's either one, hey, bring it on, like I know
who I am, so forget y'all, we're gonna fight through this.
(20:14):
Or two, I ain't built for that, so you know,
let me avoid that at all costs. And that's why
we go back to the beginning when he was offered
to settle. People always want to go black and white
on every single subject.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I'll do it with you too, just for fun, just
for performance exercise. But it's not always black and white.
Sometimes you just got to know your personnel, starting with yourself.
When he got the first offer, and I think it
was for one hundred thousand dollars, sorry, I think it
was thirty thousand dollars. Then it jumped up to one
hundred thousand dollars. I was like, do you do ten
push ups in the off season? They your bonus is
(20:48):
more than that, Like, come on, give it to them
and get away, because you know why, then the dominos
don't start to fall. That doesn't turn into forty some women.
Then it doesn't turn into everywhere you go that's all
they talk about. Doesn't turn into the most ever lasting emotion. Shame,
we don't know. And then you could have healed yourself
on the inside. You could have had your sports performance
(21:09):
coach or whatever say hey, man, hey you're a little
freak or something, or hey you got your little weirdo thing.
Everybody has one, Like come on, dog, what do you
think you built? You built the weirdo. You've built the
I'm nasty lane. It's been built a lot of people
on it too. Should be traffic on it, man, for
thirty thousand dollars, Like, just think about it right now,
(21:30):
because this is what really would have happened? Pay her
thirty thousand dollars and Deshaun Watson just whatever. But then
the question is what he have ever atoned for his issues?
And would he have ever really confronted these issues. I'm
here to tell you right now, I don't think he's
fully confronted these issues, because confront them doesn't just mean
(21:51):
I'm talking about him, doesn't mean that, Okay, I'm now
going to get rid of my past and be a
different dude. Talking about him and lit through him an
experience them is grabbing that baby, grabbing that greatness that
you had and bringing it along for the ride. Okay,
we're gonna leave that craziness behind us. So we're gonna
work on it, because ain't nobody perfect. Now, calm down,
(22:13):
you know, and all them girls didn't tell the truth.
Let's just be real about that. Whatever that is, let's
let's be real. You could have brought some of that
with you, hommy. I'm looking forward to Deshaun Watson getting
back to who he was. But the only way he
gonna get back to who he was is it meant
all of who he was wasn't all bad. Don't believe
the hype, don't believe the shame. So what y'all think
(22:34):
about Deshaun Watson right now? He don't forgot his fundamentals
in the pocket, No two hands on the ball, no more,
just fumbles as he out there, face basking everybody, pushing
the officials like what's going on? You know, two personal
files at a loss. Not a good game, suspect. So
I want to know what y'all think about Deshaun Watson
(22:55):
right now?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You everything.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We gonna see the old Deshaun Watson back. You're gonna
see that ball. Remember it was a moment. It was
a moment. Patrick mahomes de Sean Watson, remember that moment.
I remember that moment. I think he was on the
sidelines in Casey when he was up in that game.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
He were like, would you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Take to Shaun Wathston or Patrick Mahon that's a good one.
It ain't that good now, right because the Shawn is
not that good right now. So wishing the best for
you big dogs. Just admit it and go and get it.
It's right there inside of you.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, I'm here, the dream team is here.
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And once you leave your email, you get a part
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More so, leaving donation donation, donation. I thought of the
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Speaker 1 (24:01):
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the donation. Whatever it's going to be, it's gonna support
the community. Let those kids discover that inner power within
and amplify for the world to see, to unlock their
true potential. Ain't that real. Let's talk about a real,
gruesome injury. We all had to see it. Nick Chubb
(24:22):
and his injury yesterday. We saw Monday night football, severe
leg injury, severe knee issues. Probably all the cls as
they call it right. They call it the Mercedes right,
and so ACL, PCL, LCL, MCL, all the cls, the
whole fleet gone. I'm assuming. I'm not sure just yet,
(24:44):
haven't got the MRI results.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But oo did you see it? Low? It all right?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And this is the same need that he injured in
Georgia when he was a college football player. So at Georgia.
So yeah, first thing I thought about, no, liar, I
knew even done for this year. I was like, is
he ever gonna come back? And then two god, when
he retired, Man, I know, it feels that have a
little knee issue. Now I'm playing this pick a ball.
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Make my knees sore a little bit. I had no
knee injuries when I played, but now I'm looking at them.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So the injury was so gruesome that ABC chose not
to show the replay of the hit that came from
Minka Fitzpatrick, who also got injured on that play, but
obviously not as severe. So they've made this kind of
conscious decision not to show these gruesome injuries. After Kevin
Ware's leg injury, remember that in twenty thirteen Final four,
(25:36):
a lot of people saying that was the possible turning point.
You could say that could have been Paul George's, but
I don't know what date exactly that was. But that
world of like, all right enough, but the things are
reagularly available on social media, so it's not like they're.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Really keeping you from anything.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
If you want to see it, you just go straight
to X, go straight to Instagram, and immediately you're gonna
be like damn, and you're gonna be able to see it.
So it's an interesting conversation because I really want to
look at it from this perspective. One, is there an
argument for them to show replays of groosome injuries? And
(26:13):
I say there's an argument. We certainly are asked and
task to go through the entire emotional spectrum when we're
watching sports, highs and lows, as they say, and then
it becomes a game of inches, in the game of
just oh this work.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That didn't work.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But it was that much of a difference, right, you know,
you can go from those extremes who hadn't be in
the game losing a voice, spilling drinks to the same
guy seem like you at the cemetery, right, I mean,
same dude, same three hour span So if we're emotionally
tasked to go through that range of emotions, why don't
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go through the physical experience the same? Like we have
a limit a governor to what we can take or
want to see asking for anybody to get hurt. But
once it happens, do I turn away? Do I not
want to see? I mean no, when I did, I
saw it felt like I saw a replay, but I
saw it yesterday after it happened, And I actually like
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looking to see the body complexities, like the angles, and
like how crazy the movements have to be for things
to be so gruesome? Like how does it get to
that place? Because I know what normal looks like? What
happened to make that occur?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Almost Like if you're driving, you don't want anybody getting accident,
but when they do, first thing, you're like what happened?
You're like, dawg, what happened? And you're asking for some
selfish reasons too. I ain't doing that, you know what
I mean? Somebody say, oh, I went to the right
shoulder and hit the gravel and the next thing you know,
I was off the road.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, no more right shoulder for me. Do I need
to see them? Spin out of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, I want to see the response to reaction right
all that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So it's just a.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Bunch of stuff that I think that you can actually learn,
even though it may be gruesome. Cringe used to be
criinge watching UFC in the beginning because you you know,
especially the main fight, the title fight, you're looking like
they ain't gonna clean up the damn after God, I'm like,
it looked like a meat factor. It looked like one
of those fish markets, you know, you go to Redondo
Beach or something like, what all this blood and stuff? Oh,
(28:16):
let me get a number two. Nah, ain't order nothing.
Y'all ain't cleaned up. So it looked like that. I
was like, dog, somebody about to go in there, John
Jones going in there and it's already bloody.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Who blood is that? Who blood is that? Not?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know what I'm saying seriously, So you're just like, man,
come on, man, oh man, just too much. So just
you think that you replay it or not. Now, let
me take you through what Nick Chubb went through. We're
gonna talk through this pain, Y'all'm gonna talk y'all through it.
I'm gonna give you all the circumstances and how it
affected me. Abdominal wall tar.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Here we go. Let me give you something like this.
All right, line up at defensive end.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like it's so crazy with injuries, especially the gruesome ones
before the play. There's no like, there's no thing that
comes from the sky. There's no symbolism in the air.
There's nothing that happened that morning in the drive. There's
no karma coming back to play. There's nothing. It's just
another play said, and that's what happened. So now I'm
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looking at the offensive tackle. All right, he going this way.
I think it was a Denper game. He's going this way,
and I'm like, oh, cut back, so you know how
it goes. Brain first tells body, right, mind over matter,
So the matter is still going that way.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I said no, no, no, no, no, reverse course.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And as I did that, the offensive tackle clinched on
to me, bigger than me, bigger dude, strong, maybe not stronger,
but hey, he knows where he's going and I'm going
that way too. That makes him stronger. We both going
the same way. And you as strong as me, you stronger.
And then all of a sudden, I said reverse and I
went like this and when I went like this, he yanked,
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so I went double that way, and my whole body,
because I was ready, was going the other way.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Imagine this.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
This is the upper body, lower body. It was like
just like that, and my abdominal wall was that sound
ripping internally, not the gunshot of my achilles, but internally,
and I was just like this, likedp my legs did
this because I lost my core in that moment. So
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did I remember walking to the sideline like all right,
this leg hurts, but you know, usually one you limp,
you got one good, one bad. I ain't have one
good at too bad, so I wasn't even limping. I
was just like, I was like almost aimless. It was
certainly powerless. And you're getting there and you're emotionally because
(30:55):
you've been through injury before, you know, you always challenge
yourself an injury to figure out am I hurt or
am I injured? I was like, I'm definitely injured. The
hurt part is part of it, but I'm well past
hurt to the point where my adrenaline is kicked in
to the point where like I am shutting down in
system because I am dealing with severe trauma. Then your
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season flashes before your eyes. That's your career, your season,
and right as it's flashing, it gets interrupted by all
the work you put in, and now it is for
not and all the work you know you got to
put in just to get back to where you were
a minute ago. Right there, you're just trying to get
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back to that guy. Oh forget trying to be better
than him. That's later, that's coming after first.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
First thing.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
First, stabilize yourself emotionally as well. Stabilize yourself physically, going
to have to have the surgery. Surgery's after that, go
on that road to rehab.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
After that. The first goal is be who you used
to be.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Meanwhile, everybody else is continuing to improve if they're healthy
and they're working, which you assume they're both.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Damn it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So that's how the gap goes from we were right here,
then they just stayed healthy and they kept working, and
I got hurt and they over here and they still walking.
All I'm trying to do is get right back to here, gangster.
That's neck chub right now, y'all. He's just trying to
get back to the chill. What was he squatting? Eight
hundred nine hundred pounds. Now he's just trying to get back.
(32:48):
Who knows how long it took him to get back
from his first injury. In terms of everything, And I'm
not just talking about on the feelback. I'm talking about
trusting yourself. I'm talking about trusting yourself so much that
you can't be an improved version of who you were.
I'm talking about trusting yourself so much that you become
reckless again, or at least dare to be reckless. Mindless
back in the zone, the globally roy back there? When
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are you gonna get back there? Six gears? I call
it because that six gears a beautiful place, o all.
You hear every athlete talk about it. I don't know
if it's happened to you, maybe in your athletic pursuits,
maybe at work, maybe in something you like playing. When
you just you going all in, you ain't even tripping,
you ain't even thinking, and you already know the results,
(33:31):
I'm killing it. Oh that's six gear, and that's where
Nick Chubb is trying to find himself once again in
that place.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Y'all saw some of the runs last night.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Boy was scrong with a K scrong but now not
in that position again. So I've been through a lot
of gruesome injuries, you know, showing them, not showing them,
necessary evil, unnecessary evil.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
But I just want to know from you guys, what
do you think crossing the line is in terms of
of the viewer experience, kids are watching, whatever it may be.
I want to hear what you guys think. Should they
show those replays or not? And do you think Nick
Chubb returns to form? You think he returns to that
sixth gear, gets that globe back. I'm hoping for him
and I'm praying for him because I know how the
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game goes and the reason I brought up that injury
on top of all my other injuries.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Being real with y'all, that was the beginning of the
end for me.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I never was the same, oh man, for various reasons, man,
but I never was the same, never found that sixth
gear again. After that becomes San Diego last year, not good, whatever,
Dallas not good, horrible, Jacksonville paid vacations, brouh four years
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after that, never the same.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Literally literally all pro pro bowler.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Twenty three sacks in two years, twenty four, somewhere around
there in twenty three and a half like one leg,
broken leg, broken back, back surgery, all that I could do,
all that I did, all that, all that good stuff.
Nothing shut me down into this injury right here. Hopefully
this is not that moment for Nick Chubb. Oh man,
(35:16):
we gotta get right into this. A tragedy. I just
gotta read this one because emo shut up. A long
time Patriots fan died at the game on Sunday after
being punched by a Dolphins fan and hitting his head
on the ground, causing them to lose consciousness and never
regain it. The fan was Dale Mooney, thirty year season
(35:41):
ticket holder, who was at the game with his son
when this happened. Y'all know, I'm about to yep, I'm
about to cry, but I ain't gonna cry, but I'm
gonna cry when I read it. All got punched. What
a way to go out? You punched at a game,
hit your head and that's it. Like I said, remember
thirty said, there's nothing is saying anything before that moment.
(36:04):
You're just watching the game and the Dolphins fan chirping
or you chirping, Oh, let's start.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
They so well were coming back.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You know all that and then that turns into the
alcohol mix or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Next thing, you know, he throws a punch. That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And when I saw it happen in front of his son, Oh,
you know, I'm thinking of MJ. Y'all know me, Oh man,
stop playing ten minutes plus the fibrillator trying to resuscitate him.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
To no avail.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Just absolutely awful occurrents that happened. When is a football rivalry?
Get it, and we know what rivalry means, and we
know the emotional content of rivalry, and I know fans
take it much more, much more to heart than players do.
Players take it for real like we're trying to. But
we always trying to kill each other out there, like literally.
(36:57):
But in this situation, y'all a not supposed take it
literally and kill each other. Pray for Adele and the
Mooney family. Okay, but sometimes you are worn. Sometimes you
are in position where you can know it's coming sometimes,
And that's what's happening at Colorado State right now, where
a defensive back Henry Blackburn. We know who he is now,
(37:21):
one because he's facing death threats, but two because he's
the player that had the late hit controversial hit as
well on Travis Hunter, the two way player for Colorado.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So now the police department's.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Aware of the death threats and are investigating them against
Henry Blackburn. We know Hunter got a lacerated liver, which
got a lot of attention, He's gonna miss significant time, etc.
All off of that late hit. It was blatant and
uncalled for. People were saying, like Lebron James even chimed
in on it, etc.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
A loud outrage over the hit. I get it. It was
late for sure. Dirty.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
You could tell it, you could say what you say,
all right, So now what's happening is the athletic director
Joe Parker expressed concern for Blackburn inpacidity that the player
did not intend to harm Hunter and hopes that the
negative reactions would stop.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
But that's not how it goes. Now they need to stop.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I don't know why people have to show their investment
so much in this world to something that is not
only over but was not even intentional. So your investments
are intentional?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Hey man, I was love Colorado. Hey man, that was dirty?
Hey man?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
What's wrong with him? But that turns into threatening his
life and people threatening his life obviously we see the
wrong in that, and then you got to reconcile it
with people who are out there who are the sticks
and stones crowd.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
You know, six and stones may break bone, but words
that never hurt me.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
And maybe that's why people actually give death threats because
they just like, it's just words. No, it's not just words.
You're talking about killing some and all you're gonna do
is make it happen you or entice somebody to get
closer to making that happen.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Or somebody else just gonna be encouraged to do it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
But all that is just the worst energy to give, right,
So let's be real. Even though I'm a sticks and
stones kind of person, like in some capacities, we got
to also respect words have power, right, And since words
have power, you can't give these type of words energy.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
And what's tough for.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Him, if you hear me, blackburn, is how do you
not give this energy? How do you not stay up
at night?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Imagine you hear me, blackbird, right now, walk through me,
Walk through this with me.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
He's trying to go to sleep. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Finally, you know, he's been reading comments, trying to be
on the ground but everything is just every other comment
is negative and stuff. He trying to finally and go
to sleep. All that was was his brother just hitting
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the dresser. Man, Come on, y'all, stop playing, Stop playing.
Y'all stop playing, stop playing. I just had to get
those two stories out there for you guys to see.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
So what do we need to do?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
What conversation needs to be had other than what I
just did, and more, what needs to be done for
people not to cross that line in football rivalry, football banter,
football reaction, sports.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Reaction, I should say?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
And how can the universities help support and address these issues?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Like it's crazy?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
What happened to you find out somebody who did actually
harassed or actually gave that death threat?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
What should be the penalty for that person? Beat that up?
In the comments?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
All right, y'all is now it's trying to funk up
some comments, focus some comments out, some comments. Yeah from
that Stephen a Max topic from yesterday. Stephen, they just
had to stay quiet and say he doesn't want to
talk about Max. First take is killing a disputed and
now he brought all this hate onto him. Yeah, I
don't know if it's it's masterful or not but the
(41:06):
great great ones, somehow, some way find themselves in a
love or love to be hated situation.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Right, So maybe part of stephen A actually wants this.
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I think he is just his egos out of control
on this topic with Max and a to one too,
but not to the same degree. But you know, pride
come before the fall, and I'm not wishing them any fall.
But boy, so it's proud right now. I miss maxim
ourselves was my fave during La Traffic. You two were
snarky and silly when you needed to be insightful and
(41:39):
even incisive on social issues. I like that word incisive
and had great chemistry. I would listen in podcasts or
radio or YouTube or whatever if you two paired up again. Yeah,
Max and I have talked about it before, but timing
is everything, right, So I'm doing this and I have
to do this regardless. Now I will do that with
(42:02):
Max open door, and Max will do that with me.
But when we're gonna do that, I don't know, but
put some fire to it. I hear what you're saying.
Max puts stephen A's lack of authenticity on display, and
he wasn't even trying to Ooh, that's why dude, can't
let it go. It doesn't matter if you're a millionaire
or a fast food worker. When you're in the company
of real, the fake will be revealed. Unfortunately, in corporate America,
(42:23):
it'll get you fired. Yeah that's real. I mean, like,
I hate that Max comes in a package that stephen
A was attracted to a white guy. He's Jewish, a
white guy come up here speak, you know, let prop
me out and be quiet when his race time. And
Max is from New York and I know its friends.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I went to school with Max. Max flung with the crowd,
the grimy crowd.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Let me just say that I ain't hang with them dudes,
and they were the homies by all, Like man, nah dog,
I all left the hood of La and comped and
all that to come out here and Nope, nope, not me.
Old rapper Max was really Max. Yeah, Max really been
from it, really been about it, really been through it.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Brother got killed.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Everybody knows that, Like, come on, man, like, it's just
because he wears top four suits and you think he white.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Don't mean I sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
His favorite rappers ghost Face and Ray Kwan, and he
know every word and the historian, and he a genius
like dogs, I'm not even caping for him, just giving him.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
His props, Like I give you your props.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
You're an entertainer, your wordsmith, you have fun with words,
and you just entertain us all.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
No matter what you do. I love how you just bring.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
That emotional roller comes the Tapy conversation, like come on, Stephen,
hey you got yours?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Why you try to take his? I followed him watch
first take faithfully from its inception, that's cold piece.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I've seen every transition in almost every episode mars So's
Wallley's one hundred percent spot on Here, steven A was
absolutely insecure about Max's ability to speak up on black
social issues from an educated and historical social viewpoint. This
took away from steven A's role platform equals in security. Yes,
I know, I'm one hundred percent right on this. I
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just it's not even it's not even something to fight about.
But hope steven they doesn't want to fight about it.
But if he does, I do. Actually, part of me
wants to fight through is because I want him to
understand he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
So whatever, But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
At my core, I know who I am I know
my issues, I know my shortcomings, and I admit them.
I try to be that guy in front of you guys.
When you're not trying to be that guy, then you
feel exposed when they're actually those issues on display or
you're confronted with him. Simple as that. Max and I
used to have the same dynamic. We talk about something black,
(44:36):
some social issue, whatever the hell it was on our show,
and Max will come out and.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Say stuff that the black people in general were saying.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
And then sometimes I wasn't y'all know me, I'm just like,
I don't know about that dog, And I felt that, like, damn,
people ain't even supporting my opinion. Oh well, there are
people in my people that are supporting it. And truly,
I look at my people are the ones that I
rock with, and I rock with all colors. So you
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not my homie could be black dog. That's so lazy. Max,
ain't my homie cause he's white. That's so simple, Like
you my homie, because would you say, oh that's dope?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh man? You know that too? Are you like her?
Are you like that? Are you over that too? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I love this place like shared experiences, man, So I
felt with Stephen they felt. But at my core, I
guess we're different because I don't. I'm not stopping anybody
who says Max sound black to you. I'm like, man,
shut up food. First of all, what that even mean?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Food?
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like, I will return fire with a secure viewpoint, not
an insecure attack. That's why people fight because they can't
use this. They can't use that. They gotta use that.
Y'all know how to go. Stephen A and Terrell Owen
steven A needs to let it go. T O called
it like he saw. Stephen A has been blacking it
up lately, but he wasn't always like that. He used
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to play devil's advocate against the black community the time
when Skip and even Max was rocking with us. Can't
get mad at Too for telling the uncomfortable truth. Since
steven A doesn't read social media, probably has nothing but
yes men around him. I do disagree with Too saying
he's blacker, like literally like, because that just that binds
black people, that bounds them, that puts them together, Like
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there is a sustain as definitive black. No, I don't
like that, but I will say there is now if
you want to talk about like ethnicity, if you want
to talk about like your heritage. Yeah, there's different, like
a person that has one percent black in them and
a person that has ninety nine or one hundred percent
black in them.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
They're different in that capacity.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
But like in terms of social blackness and customs of blackness,
I don't really get down like that. That's because Steven
A is down for himself. This is screwed up. Okay,
this talk about the NFL recap, It was home field
advantage for the Niners. Well, every LA game gonna be
homefield advantage because y'all all love LA. Y'all like the
palm trees, the pretty women, the blombay, the blaze.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Look.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
So I do you think I go when I go
to Chargers games and I see like the last game
went too looking around, Damn, it's a lot of Dolphin
fans and LA better than Miami too. Let it be
not all the time though, y'all know what I'm saying.
All right here you're talking. Let's talk about Dion Rance's kids.
I hear you talking about MJ a lot. Wily seems
(47:24):
like somebody as a favorite kid too. Oh, yes, without doubt,
MJ is my favorite. That's my favorite thing. In this world.
The best creation in this world history, in my eyes,
is Marcellus Vernon Wiley Junior.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
MJ.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I've said it. My family knows it. I've told my
my wife knows. I said, my honey, what my top
five things? She says, MJ. My computer, my radio, that's
God saying. I don't like ugly point being she fifth.
I don't even know what fourth is. I think it's
(48:00):
I think it's uh, chicken wings.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
That's crazy. Uh No, parent love their children equally. Deon
just has have the balls to be honest about it.
Of course, I love them all equally. I don't whatever
love is. I love them all equally. I just gravitate
differently to them, and I like them different, but I
like them all a ton. I don't have any bad kids.
It's just Olivia and I are not the closest because
(48:26):
she loves loves her mama, and her mama loves her
and Ory and I.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Are because she's my mom.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
It's crazy to have a daughter that reminds you of
your mom, because it's like where I take this.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I look up to my mom, but them I'm raising you.
It's crazy. But MJ. Af beyond the best thing ever
in this world. All right, y'all, y'all know we finished
every show we finished it with a wild league is something.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, let me say the white lism, slow down you'll
go faster.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Let me say it like my man, what was the
reverend name God?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Begin with a I forget, slow down, grab, throw off,
slow down, you'll go faster.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
This happens in sports a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
You know, you get out there, you're amped up, you're
pumped up, you do your move all quick and stuff
instead of setting it up. You know, it happens in
life at times you're so anxious and excited to do things.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
You know you've ever been in.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
A rush, and you start to add up how much
time you think you saved and how much time you
really save.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
You're like dog, why am I Russian?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
It's almost like and then you always go forget something
if you're rushing, just always so slow down you'll go faster.
It's amazing. Like track and field shows, it's the one
hundred meters, especially where I think there are six phases
of the race, six phases of one hundred meters, and
if you're doing it right, it's only ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Nine for the elite but most people ten.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
What drive phase, acceleration phase, you know, coast phase point
being they still running and they running hella fast, but
slow it down up like.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
You'll go faster.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's almost like remember when you used to see the
pretty girl. This is back in the day before y'all
had to swipe to go get girls information. We had
to go speak. And you see one, you see somebody
going hot. It always happened at the club too. You're like,
oh she fuck god, oh, I used to love that feeling.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
You're like, you're walking in there, d dog, dog.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Right there right.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
And then now I was the pointer, and I like
the point because nobody likes the point, so it made
me different already I'm be like her right there and
then she looking like this boy just pointed at me,
and I'm like, yes I did, cause I am letting
you know, dodo. So I'm like right there, and then
you'll watch somebody shoot shoot, shoot, like right, you know
(50:52):
what I'm saying, Close encounters at the third and they
just flying in taking their shots and all getting whyed away.
So now dog, let her enjoy, let her get come,
let her get acclimated. Even me and I'm a dude.
But when when I first get somewhere and do work.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
What's up? Man? How you doing much? I love it?
I mean, like god, dog, he came in hot, Like
I ain't mad.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I'm still gonna give love and I'm always gonna break bread
and respect. But I'm like, I would have been a
lot longer, nicer, more long winded, and you would just
waited thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
I just got here.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I'm just trying to figure out where we sitting, and
where the exits are, and most important, everywhere I go
always check out three things.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Where to sit, where the.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Emburncy exits are, and most importantly, if y'all really know me,
where's the air can get conditioning unit?
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Like where the AC unit? Where's it blowing out?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I always be like, watch it ever I go there,
I need that current right there. So man, anything you
got going on?
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Man?
Speaker 1 (51:55):
I know it's like, ah, it's the tortoise in the hair.
What do they say in colors? He said, Hey, let's
run down there and get one of them. He said, nah,
let's walk down and.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Get them all. So slow down, y'all, you'll go faster,
all right, y'all.
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You know what I'm saying.
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What it lived at and Andre three thousand somewhere around here.
I assume I'm in atl and Atlanta, you know, dirty South.
What I noticed about Atlanta is it's real and it's
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Pushing it home. You good back there.
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He didn't said a word to me. It was just
completely different than my La uber experience. Look at me
getting the taste of Atlanta culture the uber ride right now.
But I'm here for Danny Wirfol's foundation. We're here to
obviously raise some awareness race funds for his foundation, but
played some pickleball as well, so got to catch up
with a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Saw Eric Decker here, good looking dude, great dude. Right,
he's not. He's a real cool cat.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
John Brinkiss, you know, my partner and Brink's TV the founder.
But also just to homie, he crazy. He got so
many dog stories. I mean, god, dang him and dogs
need to just be separated for real. Crips bloods, y'all
just stay away from each other.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Right man.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And it was hilarious because he called me out in
front of everybody. Remember I told Joe if well, I
didn't really say this explicitly. I just I put it
out there, like MJ got the game ball from j C.
Jackson when he got the interception, right, Well, some people
took that ass MJ caught that ball. Well MJ didn't
catch the ball. But also I didn't catch the ball either. No, Lie,
(02:48):
that's not really went that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So j C. Jackson's running towards us. I'm like, is
he looking at me? He really looking at me?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Snapple's up.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Jay said, I ain't never met jac Jackson in my life,
but salute to you, brother, You're a charger.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And then he just threw the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Now he threw it into the section, but it felt
like he threw it to me.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I was in a notebook or something looking at him like, oh,
throw that ball. I'm crying, and tre yes to me
the ball all right. So then the ball comes, but
I got a cell phone in his hand. I got
MJ kind of tugging, kind of like hype, got a
bunch of people in the section, and I'm just looking back.
I just I'm in disbelief for real, like in your dreams,
you know, all of a sudden, you're getting chased by
a monster and you can't run. It felt like that,
(03:26):
like all a sudden, I just lost my faculties. I
was like, oh, the balls are there around and literally
the ball landed like a pillow, like a butterfly, and
I just dropped it and immediately fight a flight kicked
in because when I dropped it, I was like, I'm
gonna pick this ball back up. But then the Piranha
came all the fans and they were trying to get it.
(03:49):
So I ain't gonna lie confidence in the house. I
grabbed former d lines in the house. I grabbed Then
all of a sudden, I just dropped everything. I grabbed the
ball because I was thinking of MJ for real, and
that moment was like, I lose this ball because you
are forty eight years old, never called a football in
your damn life, never caught a baseball in your damn life.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Obviously not a basketball. You gotta throw it ey right back,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So I was like, I ain't never been in this
position before, and your son is looking up to you,
little symbol looking up to me, mufossa, and I'm gonna
drop the damn ball. Fos did die in front of
symbol though, No, no, no, not in front of.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The symbol, all right. Scar got him on the side,
all right.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
So the point is I was like, Tam, don't drop
the balls off, And then I grabbed that ball and
I start doing this to start throwing them Ludacris Atlanta,
throw them balls on them and got everybody clear. They
were like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey hey buddy, hey, hey,
So gave him Jay the ball. Why bring that story up?
Because John Brinks brought the story up his old sports
science ass.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He figured it out.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He kind of put details together because nobody knew the
real story unless you were there. So that was hilarious. Well,
speaking of being there, it seems like everyone, at least
in our country right now, if you're a college football fan,
is trying to get to Boulder, Colorado. Yes, because who
doesn't want to see what Dion is cooking out there?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's funny because I know now because everybody name Mama
telling you about it. They're coming to LA They're going
to UCLA and my boys the ad at UCLA. And
I haven't asked him for tickets because I just don't
want to get in that line of people.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Just hey, by the way, Martin, uh can I get them?
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But we about to play pick a ball next weekend,
so maybe uh he'll offer some tickets.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You know how that goes now?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I mean, but it's just the biggest show in every
town right now, and right now we know where it
goes down in Boulder, Colorado. So it's pretty cool to
see this Dion Sanders, who was seen as unconventional for
the head coaching job at one point in his career,
like remember that's why I had to go to Jackson State.
People backing like, oh, you know, down for the calls
(05:47):
and they used BECU Yeah yeah, yeah. But also he
had to go there right to prove that he was
worthy for those who were naysayers and.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The dollars out there. So he did obviously and did.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He took the job, which was a promotion to go
to University of Colorado, even though it's still not a
power school like Alabama or Florida State where he wanted
to coach. You know, the level, it ain't top tier.
They used to be though in the nineties Hagen be enemy.
Don't tell me they want top tier then. But now
he has brought it to prominence. He has brought it
(06:20):
to the point where it's a destination not just for
the college football prospect and those athletes, but people like
Lil Wayne Off set up in the building the Rock.
Who else was there? Master p Kawhi Leonard was even there?
Nobody knew that, right, Kawhi went there in the same word,
but Kawhi Leonard been in the building, cal Lowry, etc.
(06:41):
Everybody is going there. We saw stephen A there, she
had a sharp there, etc. Everybody's going there, and now
the players are going there. So with that comes higher expectations.
With the higher expectations comes the possibility of, hey, can
we take this all the way to a national title.
The answer is yes, I want to know why the
Big Twelve likely offering an automatic bid in the future
(07:04):
for the college football playoff format increases their chances and
makes it promising for them to actually make it to
the playoffs and actually do it all. Now it's all
on the players. You know, you can say what you want.
How many celebrities here? Litl Wange walked us out the
songs and bang a million? Yeah, yeah. All you gotta
do is win twelve, win twelve mans. You gotta win
(07:24):
a million, twelve and twelve and twelve, and you go
twelve and oh whatever it may be, Your ass is
up in that college football playoffs and let's see how
you do. So it's interesting Dion is now being asked
it so early, Isin't it crazy? How fast thing changed?
When things are going bad, all of a sudden, they
just snowball and it feels like they just keep going bad.
But Dion ain't that type of person, right, He doesn't
(07:46):
take no for an answer. So he went to Jackson State,
made that great. All of a sudden, he left there
going to Colorado immediately making that great. So now how
great can it get? They're asking him, are you gonna
stay here? Because it does feel there is a lower
shiling at Colorado than if you were at Alabama. You
ain't going to Alabama, but Alabama like tip program.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, the A and M may be up for
grabs now because et cetera.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
So we'll see point being, are you gonna go to
the tip top or you just gonna stay where you are.
Let me give you something that was some of the
most sage advice I ever received in my life and
changed my fortunes and changed my life.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Matt Columbia University on my recruiting trip.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So I went to all the other football schools and kind
of factories and getting seduced like everybody else. I mean, dude,
you show up, you know, you're on UCLA's campus.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You're looking around, You're like, damn, this is dope. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You went to the games and it was seventy eighty
ninety thousand there and attendance. Then you go to Columbia
it's all lowly. You know, it's different in terms of
the athletics. You know, you go to the stadium, you're
looking at like, oh, I've seen some high schools in
Texas look bigger than this.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know what I mean? It is what it is.
It is in New York City.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But I remember going to the top of the Empire
State Building and our coach Ray Tailor, with the back
drop of the New York City skyline, says to us, men,
now he already had me. You men, I was only
like seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That was just men.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
All right, Uh, do you want to go somewhere and
carry the torch? Or do you want to go somewhere
and light the torch? In my mind, I signed right
there with Columbia. I was locked in. I think that's
where Dion is facing right now. Does he want to
go somewhere and carry the torch to be the next coach?
You know, imagine if he does go to A and M.
(09:30):
Because they've struggled with all these great talents they have
and top recruiting classes, they still can't get over their hum. Okay,
we're gonna go don and we're gonna throw him twenty
million a year. We're gonna get all that mail Tucker
money that Michigan State man go to Michigan State. Is
that bigger? But the point is, God, leave mail Tucky
and trouble so we get all that money, we throw
it to DM. We double up on DM right, twenty
(09:50):
million a year. Whatever you want, carbonlos, private jets, everything, everything.
But why would do y'all leave now? If the potential
is here? Where are you going? And everywhere you go
there you are you Dion baby, They coming to you.
That's how you gotta think. If I want it out there,
I just show it from in here because it's already there.
Oh man, I hope Deon State is still at Colorado.
(10:11):
Why because I just I want him to prove this model.
I selfishly want him to prove that you could go
anywhere and do anything.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm a big believer in that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I literally they said, risked it all in terms of
my athletic career. You went to the sorriest football program
in the country. Columbia football was before I got there.
Now Prairie View A and M has since taken that title.
But the point is I went there, and I went
there because Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, all these other players
(10:41):
that I saw go to small schools. I said, hey,
if you good enough, you can get there from here.
We had a guy, John Starts, He made it to
the NFL before he was one of the Washington Redskins hogs,
one of the offensive linemens.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So in the eighties he made it before.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I look, I was just like dog New York City,
my local newspapers, the New York Times worldwide distribution. Every
Sunday after our games, someone in Japan has read about
how old Marsh's has seven tackles two sacks. Pretty good,
you know what I mean? Like he didn't say it
like that, he speak of Japanese. But point being, man,
come on, man, like, stop limiting yourself, like you gotta
(11:20):
be in pole position to win the race.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Happy nice?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But it also, hey, just put me in the race
world record in the four hundred meters. Y'all know my
track references, my favorite thing, track and field lane.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Eight way out by himself. Right. We just saw sh
Carrie win a race line eight lay nine.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Come on, y'all forget as long as you're in the
race and believe in yourself. Oh, it's gonna come to
you with the law of attraction. So what do you
guys think about Deon Sanders. Do you think he stays
at Colorado continues to build that coaching legacy there, or
should he go to a more traditional, higher tier college
football program or the likes of Brider And if you're
(12:00):
bright with the bright lights so we just can't see
your baby just do it too much? Or should he
just stay still?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Right? And in what ways? Also?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Is Dion just Dion his energy his prowess benefit in
college football? Beat that up in the comments for me, guys,
got to check that out.
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I don't like the brag, but damn it, I boast
I love them itty biddy's getting better.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Let's talk through.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
This Sean Wathston who needs to get better, just frankly
needs to get better. He's still struggling. And there's one
word for it, and I'm gonna tell you later. Okay,
So let's talk about with Deshaun Watson last night. We
saw him his night started off with a pick six.
Go back that way. Now, it wasn't all his fault,
but he wasn't on the same page with tight end
Harrison Bryant. So all of a sudden, that turns into
(13:21):
points for the Steelers. So we watched him play last
night Monday Night Football. Kind of weird having both games
on at the same time. I don't know what experiment
going on. Please tell me that in the comments is
there are Are they really like, oh, we're losing viewership
and we got to double up or are they just
scheduling issues because this ain't week one where we had
that doublehead of before in the year's past.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I ain't get that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Anyway, Let's talk about that he threw that pick six
and then just had an off night. Man also had
two penalties. We saw that he went twenty two or
forty for two thirty five passer rating of seventy three
total turnovers, lost his Steelers.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And it's interesting in this whole time with the Browns.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We know the eleven game suspension, right, and that came
from all the issues in Texas, not only on in
the building because of what's going on upstairs and him
and they had their dynamic, but whatever was going on
on those massage tables, it seemed like worldwide, real bad
issue for Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So how do we get here?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
How does a guy all of a sudden it just
seems like not forgot how to play football, but forgot
who he was playing football, right, Like he's still playing football,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Some guys were actually bad for these numbers. Not many.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
He's twenty six in the NFL right now in QBR.
If you add up all of the games from last
year after the eleven game suspension and this year right
twenty six, there are a lot of guys better than
him that shouldn't be better than him.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sam Darnold's one of those guys. You know, you look around,
you're like.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Damn better than Sam right now, right And we know
that's led to him bouncing around. Just to give you
a little perspective, there's a lot of guys on the
list when you're twenty six that you should be beaten,
especially when you're making two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed.
So Deshaun Watson may have forgotten who he was as
(15:19):
a football player, but his agent he did his thing,
David bligheda remind everyone what you did.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Now it's up to Deshaun Watson to live up to that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But I really want to talk about Deshaun Watson and
what he's going through psychologically, because that's what's going on.
If you guys watched them pregame, he had his performance
coach next to him. He was doing some deep meditation
and breathing exercises, etc.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It's really trying to focus in on the present.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Why simple because DeShawn especially can't go backwards, can't look
in the past of his greatness and his play, or
he can't look in the past in terms of his
indiscretions and issues because because all those things won't pay
it forward, They won't pay anything for what Da Shawn
needs to do going forward.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They won't They won't help them.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Why because all that greatness before was a cocktail mix
of a DaShan that he's trying to forget that's the problem.
And this is what Tiger Woods went through as well.
So when you ball out of control, you do something
of this level of scandal, you get ridiculed to this point.
Then all of a sudden you try to throw out
everything from there because you're trying to change who you
(16:31):
are a new direction. Well, you're gonna be advised to
let it all go.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Letting it all go means leaving the good and the bad,
throwing out the baby.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
With the bath water.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Right, there's some good moments in there too, but because
Dashawn got publicly ridiculed, then he had to throw out
the good Dashon with the bad Dushon.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
There's one word that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Describes what Dashawn is going through and why he right
now can't get to that place where he's in the
present and the present is new defined as great as
his past was on the field. That one word is shame.
He's dealing with shame. Let me tell you what that is,
As a therapist once told me, it's the most everlasting
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emotion we have, shame. And you think about it, you know,
shame doesn't get top tier status in terms of our emotions.
We talk about anger a lot, we talk about hate,
a lot. You know, you could talk about a lot
of frustration gets more credit and talk about talked about
than shame.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But shame. Shame is constant. Man. Let me tell you
what shame is.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Shame for Deshaun Watson is the constant reminder of indiscretion.
Shame is the constant reminder of failure. Shame is the
constant reminder of they will always look at you differently
and if you can't reconcile what they're thinking, well, who
(17:56):
you really are? If this doesn't overwhelm that, if the
inside is not more powerful than the outside, you will
always be in that tug of war. There're gonna be
moments when this wins. It's gonna be a moments when
they win, but it's always gonna be a struggle.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And that's what shame is. Shame will make you struggle.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Through life always with a different lens of trying to
receive what others have given you, even if they a
trying to give it to you. You ever been ashamed
or something? Walk into a room. What you're looking at?
I'm actually admiring your chain?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Nice chain?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Can I see if that's your son, that's your family?
Pretty girls, dudes who did wrong. Everybody whoever has been
shamed before, Like, look she wearing all of a sudden,
So when you walk into the next room, they ain't
even thinking about what you're wearing. What what y'all looking at?
And you're like, oh, you're beautiful, we think you're beautiful.
Oh that last room, don't your shoes were messed up.
(18:48):
See how it goes. So shame has Deshaune watching one
throwing out all the good to shine with the baddshone
because he doesn't want the badd shine instead of going
in there and for performing sir like psychological surgery, which
maybe he is and he's still in rehab of it,
but right now, but we're seeing on the football field
one doesn't warrant what he got in terms of opportunity,
(19:11):
in terms of that fully guaranteed contract, et cetera, none
of that. But worse for me is we're not seeing
him display his talent. We're not seeing him anymore. You know,
I don't even I haven't seen him personally since all
of this went down, so I don't know what kind
of person he is is. He's still admitting that light,
but I just know in terms of him on the
(19:32):
field and some of his teammates are already caped up
for him, saying, Oh, we're gonna be a different version
of the Sean this year. Oh man, you could just
see it, you could just feel it. We don't see it,
and I just won't. I'm only doing this video because
I hate to see talent wasted and and I hate
to see that he's going through methods and means that
(19:53):
it's not giving him the results he desires. It's a
healing process, sure, but you're gonna almost have to cancel
out those opinions or so stop assuming that all those
opinions are what they are. But that's how it goes.
Like you know, when you go through scandal, it's two ways.
It's either one, hey, bring it on, like I know
who I am, so forget y'all, we're gonna fight through this.
(20:14):
Or two, I ain't built for that, so you know,
let me avoid that at all costs. And that's why
we go back to the beginning when he was offered
to settle. People always want to go black and white
on every single subject.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I'll do it with you too, just for fun, just
for performance exercise. But it's not always black and white.
Sometimes you just got to know your personnel, starting with yourself.
When he got the first offer, and I think it
was for one hundred thousand dollars, sorry, I think it
was thirty thousand dollars. Then it jumped up to one
hundred thousand dollars. I was like, do you do ten
push ups in the off season? They your bonus is
(20:48):
more than that, Like, come on, give it to them
and get away, because you know why, then the dominos
don't start to fall. That doesn't turn into forty some women.
Then it doesn't turn into everywhere you go that's all
they talk about. Doesn't turn into the most ever lasting emotion. Shame,
we don't know. And then you could have healed yourself
on the inside. You could have had your sports performance
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coach or whatever say hey, man, hey you're a little
freak or something, or hey you got your little weirdo thing.
Everybody has one, Like come on, dog, what do you
think you built? You built the weirdo. You've built the
I'm nasty lane. It's been built a lot of people
on it too. Should be traffic on it, man, for
thirty thousand dollars, Like, just think about it right now,
(21:30):
because this is what really would have happened? Pay her
thirty thousand dollars and Deshaun Watson just whatever. But then
the question is what he have ever atoned for his issues?
And would he have ever really confronted these issues. I'm
here to tell you right now, I don't think he's
fully confronted these issues, because confront them doesn't just mean
(21:51):
I'm talking about him, doesn't mean that, Okay, I'm now
going to get rid of my past and be a
different dude. Talking about him and lit through him an
experience them is grabbing that baby, grabbing that greatness that
you had and bringing it along for the ride. Okay,
we're gonna leave that craziness behind us. So we're gonna
work on it, because ain't nobody perfect. Now, calm down,
(22:13):
you know, and all them girls didn't tell the truth.
Let's just be real about that. Whatever that is, let's
let's be real. You could have brought some of that
with you, hommy. I'm looking forward to Deshaun Watson getting
back to who he was. But the only way he
gonna get back to who he was is it meant
all of who he was wasn't all bad. Don't believe
the hype, don't believe the shame. So what y'all think
(22:34):
about Deshaun Watson right now? He don't forgot his fundamentals
in the pocket, No two hands on the ball, no more,
just fumbles as he out there, face basking everybody, pushing
the officials like what's going on? You know, two personal
files at a loss. Not a good game, suspect. So
I want to know what y'all think about Deshaun Watson
(22:55):
right now?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You everything.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We gonna see the old Deshaun Watson back. You're gonna
see that ball. Remember it was a moment. It was
a moment. Patrick mahomes de Sean Watson, remember that moment.
I remember that moment. I think he was on the
sidelines in Casey when he was up in that game.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
He were like, would you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Take to Shaun Wathston or Patrick Mahon that's a good one.
It ain't that good now, right because the Shawn is
not that good right now. So wishing the best for
you big dogs. Just admit it and go and get it.
It's right there inside of you.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, I'm here, the dream team is here.
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And once you leave your email, you get a part
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Speaker 2 (23:52):
More so, leaving donation donation, donation. I thought of the
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Speaker 1 (24:01):
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the community. Let those kids discover that inner power within
and amplify for the world to see, to unlock their
true potential. Ain't that real. Let's talk about a real,
gruesome injury. We all had to see it. Nick Chubb
(24:22):
and his injury yesterday. We saw Monday night football, severe
leg injury, severe knee issues. Probably all the cls as
they call it right. They call it the Mercedes right,
and so ACL, PCL, LCL, MCL, all the cls, the
whole fleet gone. I'm assuming. I'm not sure just yet,
(24:44):
haven't got the MRI results.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But oo did you see it? Low? It all right?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And this is the same need that he injured in
Georgia when he was a college football player. So at Georgia.
So yeah, first thing I thought about, no, liar, I
knew even done for this year. I was like, is
he ever gonna come back? And then two god, when
he retired, Man, I know, it feels that have a
little knee issue. Now I'm playing this pick a ball.
(25:11):
Make my knees sore a little bit. I had no
knee injuries when I played, but now I'm looking at them.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So the injury was so gruesome that ABC chose not
to show the replay of the hit that came from
Minka Fitzpatrick, who also got injured on that play, but
obviously not as severe. So they've made this kind of
conscious decision not to show these gruesome injuries. After Kevin
Ware's leg injury, remember that in twenty thirteen Final four,
(25:36):
a lot of people saying that was the possible turning point.
You could say that could have been Paul George's, but
I don't know what date exactly that was. But that
world of like, all right enough, but the things are
reagularly available on social media, so it's not like they're.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Really keeping you from anything.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
If you want to see it, you just go straight
to X, go straight to Instagram, and immediately you're gonna
be like damn, and you're gonna be able to see it.
So it's an interesting conversation because I really want to
look at it from this perspective. One, is there an
argument for them to show replays of groosome injuries? And
(26:13):
I say there's an argument. We certainly are asked and
task to go through the entire emotional spectrum when we're
watching sports, highs and lows, as they say, and then
it becomes a game of inches, in the game of
just oh this work.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That didn't work.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But it was that much of a difference, right, you know,
you can go from those extremes who hadn't be in
the game losing a voice, spilling drinks to the same
guy seem like you at the cemetery, right, I mean,
same dude, same three hour span So if we're emotionally
tasked to go through that range of emotions, why don't
(26:53):
go through the physical experience the same? Like we have
a limit a governor to what we can take or
want to see asking for anybody to get hurt. But
once it happens, do I turn away? Do I not
want to see? I mean no, when I did, I
saw it felt like I saw a replay, but I
saw it yesterday after it happened, And I actually like
(27:15):
looking to see the body complexities, like the angles, and
like how crazy the movements have to be for things
to be so gruesome? Like how does it get to
that place? Because I know what normal looks like? What
happened to make that occur?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Almost Like if you're driving, you don't want anybody getting accident,
but when they do, first thing, you're like what happened?
You're like, dawg, what happened? And you're asking for some
selfish reasons too. I ain't doing that, you know what
I mean? Somebody say, oh, I went to the right
shoulder and hit the gravel and the next thing you know,
I was off the road.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, no more right shoulder for me. Do I need
to see them? Spin out of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, I want to see the response to reaction right
all that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So it's just a.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Bunch of stuff that I think that you can actually learn,
even though it may be gruesome. Cringe used to be
criinge watching UFC in the beginning because you you know,
especially the main fight, the title fight, you're looking like
they ain't gonna clean up the damn after God, I'm like,
it looked like a meat factor. It looked like one
of those fish markets, you know, you go to Redondo
Beach or something like, what all this blood and stuff? Oh,
(28:16):
let me get a number two. Nah, ain't order nothing.
Y'all ain't cleaned up. So it looked like that. I
was like, dog, somebody about to go in there, John
Jones going in there and it's already bloody.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Who blood is that? Who blood is that? Not?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know what I'm saying seriously, So you're just like, man,
come on, man, oh man, just too much. So just
you think that you replay it or not. Now, let
me take you through what Nick Chubb went through. We're
gonna talk through this pain, Y'all'm gonna talk y'all through it.
I'm gonna give you all the circumstances and how it
affected me. Abdominal wall tar.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Here we go. Let me give you something like this.
All right, line up at defensive end.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like it's so crazy with injuries, especially the gruesome ones
before the play. There's no like, there's no thing that
comes from the sky. There's no symbolism in the air.
There's nothing that happened that morning in the drive. There's
no karma coming back to play. There's nothing. It's just
another play said, and that's what happened. So now I'm
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looking at the offensive tackle. All right, he going this way.
I think it was a Denper game. He's going this way,
and I'm like, oh, cut back, so you know how
it goes. Brain first tells body, right, mind over matter,
So the matter is still going that way.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I said no, no, no, no, no, reverse course.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And as I did that, the offensive tackle clinched on
to me, bigger than me, bigger dude, strong, maybe not stronger,
but hey, he knows where he's going and I'm going
that way too. That makes him stronger. We both going
the same way. And you as strong as me, you stronger.
And then all of a sudden, I said reverse and I
went like this and when I went like this, he yanked,
(29:58):
so I went double that way, and my whole body,
because I was ready, was going the other way.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Imagine this.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
This is the upper body, lower body. It was like
just like that, and my abdominal wall was that sound
ripping internally, not the gunshot of my achilles, but internally,
and I was just like this, likedp my legs did
this because I lost my core in that moment. So
(30:32):
did I remember walking to the sideline like all right,
this leg hurts, but you know, usually one you limp,
you got one good, one bad. I ain't have one
good at too bad, so I wasn't even limping. I
was just like, I was like almost aimless. It was
certainly powerless. And you're getting there and you're emotionally because
(30:55):
you've been through injury before, you know, you always challenge
yourself an injury to figure out am I hurt or
am I injured? I was like, I'm definitely injured. The
hurt part is part of it, but I'm well past
hurt to the point where my adrenaline is kicked in
to the point where like I am shutting down in
system because I am dealing with severe trauma. Then your
(31:21):
season flashes before your eyes. That's your career, your season,
and right as it's flashing, it gets interrupted by all
the work you put in, and now it is for
not and all the work you know you got to
put in just to get back to where you were
a minute ago. Right there, you're just trying to get
(31:44):
back to that guy. Oh forget trying to be better
than him. That's later, that's coming after first.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
First thing.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
First, stabilize yourself emotionally as well. Stabilize yourself physically, going
to have to have the surgery. Surgery's after that, go
on that road to rehab.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
After that. The first goal is be who you used
to be.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Meanwhile, everybody else is continuing to improve if they're healthy
and they're working, which you assume they're both.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Damn it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So that's how the gap goes from we were right here,
then they just stayed healthy and they kept working, and
I got hurt and they over here and they still walking.
All I'm trying to do is get right back to here, gangster.
That's neck chub right now, y'all. He's just trying to
get back to the chill. What was he squatting? Eight
hundred nine hundred pounds. Now he's just trying to get back.
(32:48):
Who knows how long it took him to get back
from his first injury. In terms of everything, And I'm
not just talking about on the feelback. I'm talking about
trusting yourself. I'm talking about trusting yourself so much that
you can't be an improved version of who you were.
I'm talking about trusting yourself so much that you become
reckless again, or at least dare to be reckless. Mindless
back in the zone, the globally roy back there? When
(33:10):
are you gonna get back there? Six gears? I call
it because that six gears a beautiful place, o all.
You hear every athlete talk about it. I don't know
if it's happened to you, maybe in your athletic pursuits,
maybe at work, maybe in something you like playing. When
you just you going all in, you ain't even tripping,
you ain't even thinking, and you already know the results,
(33:31):
I'm killing it. Oh that's six gear, and that's where
Nick Chubb is trying to find himself once again in
that place.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Y'all saw some of the runs last night.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Boy was scrong with a K scrong but now not
in that position again. So I've been through a lot
of gruesome injuries, you know, showing them, not showing them,
necessary evil, unnecessary evil.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
But I just want to know from you guys, what
do you think crossing the line is in terms of
of the viewer experience, kids are watching, whatever it may be.
I want to hear what you guys think. Should they
show those replays or not? And do you think Nick
Chubb returns to form? You think he returns to that
sixth gear, gets that globe back. I'm hoping for him
and I'm praying for him because I know how the
(34:17):
game goes and the reason I brought up that injury
on top of all my other injuries.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Being real with y'all, that was the beginning of the
end for me.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I never was the same, oh man, for various reasons, man,
but I never was the same, never found that sixth
gear again. After that becomes San Diego last year, not good, whatever,
Dallas not good, horrible, Jacksonville paid vacations, brouh four years
(34:45):
after that, never the same.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Literally literally all pro pro bowler.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Twenty three sacks in two years, twenty four, somewhere around
there in twenty three and a half like one leg,
broken leg, broken back, back surgery, all that I could do,
all that I did, all that, all that good stuff.
Nothing shut me down into this injury right here. Hopefully
this is not that moment for Nick Chubb. Oh man,
(35:16):
we gotta get right into this. A tragedy. I just
gotta read this one because emo shut up. A long
time Patriots fan died at the game on Sunday after
being punched by a Dolphins fan and hitting his head
on the ground, causing them to lose consciousness and never
regain it. The fan was Dale Mooney, thirty year season
(35:41):
ticket holder, who was at the game with his son
when this happened. Y'all know, I'm about to yep, I'm
about to cry, but I ain't gonna cry, but I'm
gonna cry when I read it. All got punched. What
a way to go out? You punched at a game,
hit your head and that's it. Like I said, remember
thirty said, there's nothing is saying anything before that moment.
(36:04):
You're just watching the game and the Dolphins fan chirping
or you chirping, Oh, let's start.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
They so well were coming back.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You know all that and then that turns into the
alcohol mix or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Next thing, you know, he throws a punch. That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And when I saw it happen in front of his son, Oh,
you know, I'm thinking of MJ. Y'all know me, Oh man,
stop playing ten minutes plus the fibrillator trying to resuscitate him.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
To no avail.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Just absolutely awful occurrents that happened. When is a football rivalry?
Get it, and we know what rivalry means, and we
know the emotional content of rivalry, and I know fans
take it much more, much more to heart than players do.
Players take it for real like we're trying to. But
we always trying to kill each other out there, like literally.
(36:57):
But in this situation, y'all a not supposed take it
literally and kill each other. Pray for Adele and the
Mooney family. Okay, but sometimes you are worn. Sometimes you
are in position where you can know it's coming sometimes,
And that's what's happening at Colorado State right now, where
a defensive back Henry Blackburn. We know who he is now,
(37:21):
one because he's facing death threats, but two because he's
the player that had the late hit controversial hit as
well on Travis Hunter, the two way player for Colorado.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So now the police department's.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Aware of the death threats and are investigating them against
Henry Blackburn. We know Hunter got a lacerated liver, which
got a lot of attention, He's gonna miss significant time, etc.
All off of that late hit. It was blatant and
uncalled for. People were saying, like Lebron James even chimed
in on it, etc.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
A loud outrage over the hit. I get it. It was
late for sure. Dirty.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
You could tell it, you could say what you say,
all right, So now what's happening is the athletic director
Joe Parker expressed concern for Blackburn inpacidity that the player
did not intend to harm Hunter and hopes that the
negative reactions would stop.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
But that's not how it goes. Now they need to stop.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I don't know why people have to show their investment
so much in this world to something that is not
only over but was not even intentional. So your investments
are intentional?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Hey man, I was love Colorado. Hey man, that was dirty?
Hey man?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
What's wrong with him? But that turns into threatening his
life and people threatening his life obviously we see the
wrong in that, and then you got to reconcile it
with people who are out there who are the sticks
and stones crowd.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
You know, six and stones may break bone, but words
that never hurt me.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
And maybe that's why people actually give death threats because
they just like, it's just words. No, it's not just words.
You're talking about killing some and all you're gonna do
is make it happen you or entice somebody to get
closer to making that happen.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Or somebody else just gonna be encouraged to do it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
But all that is just the worst energy to give, right,
So let's be real. Even though I'm a sticks and
stones kind of person, like in some capacities, we got
to also respect words have power, right, And since words
have power, you can't give these type of words energy.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
And what's tough for.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Him, if you hear me, blackburn, is how do you
not give this energy? How do you not stay up
at night?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Imagine you hear me, blackbird, right now, walk through me,
Walk through this with me.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
He's trying to go to sleep. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Finally, you know, he's been reading comments, trying to be
on the ground but everything is just every other comment
is negative and stuff. He trying to finally and go
to sleep. All that was was his brother just hitting
(40:01):
the dresser. Man, Come on, y'all, stop playing, Stop playing.
Y'all stop playing, stop playing. I just had to get
those two stories out there for you guys to see.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
So what do we need to do?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
What conversation needs to be had other than what I
just did, and more, what needs to be done for
people not to cross that line in football rivalry, football banter,
football reaction, sports.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Reaction, I should say?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
And how can the universities help support and address these issues?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Like it's crazy?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
What happened to you find out somebody who did actually
harassed or actually gave that death threat?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
What should be the penalty for that person? Beat that up?
In the comments?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
All right, y'all is now it's trying to funk up
some comments, focus some comments out, some comments. Yeah from
that Stephen a Max topic from yesterday. Stephen, they just
had to stay quiet and say he doesn't want to
talk about Max. First take is killing a disputed and
now he brought all this hate onto him. Yeah, I
don't know if it's it's masterful or not but the
(41:06):
great great ones, somehow, some way find themselves in a
love or love to be hated situation.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Right, So maybe part of stephen A actually wants this.
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I think he is just his egos out of control
on this topic with Max and a to one too,
but not to the same degree. But you know, pride
come before the fall, and I'm not wishing them any fall.
But boy, so it's proud right now. I miss maxim
ourselves was my fave during La Traffic. You two were
snarky and silly when you needed to be insightful and
(41:39):
even incisive on social issues. I like that word incisive
and had great chemistry. I would listen in podcasts or
radio or YouTube or whatever if you two paired up again. Yeah,
Max and I have talked about it before, but timing
is everything, right, So I'm doing this and I have
to do this regardless. Now I will do that with
(42:02):
Max open door, and Max will do that with me.
But when we're gonna do that, I don't know, but
put some fire to it. I hear what you're saying.
Max puts stephen A's lack of authenticity on display, and
he wasn't even trying to Ooh, that's why dude, can't
let it go. It doesn't matter if you're a millionaire
or a fast food worker. When you're in the company
of real, the fake will be revealed. Unfortunately, in corporate America,
(42:23):
it'll get you fired. Yeah that's real. I mean, like,
I hate that Max comes in a package that stephen
A was attracted to a white guy. He's Jewish, a
white guy come up here speak, you know, let prop
me out and be quiet when his race time. And
Max is from New York and I know its friends.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I went to school with Max. Max flung with the crowd,
the grimy crowd.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Let me just say that I ain't hang with them dudes,
and they were the homies by all, Like man, nah dog,
I all left the hood of La and comped and
all that to come out here and Nope, nope, not me.
Old rapper Max was really Max. Yeah, Max really been
from it, really been about it, really been through it.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Brother got killed.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Everybody knows that, Like, come on, man, like, it's just
because he wears top four suits and you think he white.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Don't mean I sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
His favorite rappers ghost Face and Ray Kwan, and he
know every word and the historian, and he a genius
like dogs, I'm not even caping for him, just giving him.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
His props, Like I give you your props.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
You're an entertainer, your wordsmith, you have fun with words,
and you just entertain us all.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
No matter what you do. I love how you just bring.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
That emotional roller comes the Tapy conversation, like come on, Stephen,
hey you got yours?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Why you try to take his? I followed him watch
first take faithfully from its inception, that's cold piece.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I've seen every transition in almost every episode mars So's
Wallley's one hundred percent spot on Here, steven A was
absolutely insecure about Max's ability to speak up on black
social issues from an educated and historical social viewpoint. This
took away from steven A's role platform equals in security. Yes,
I know, I'm one hundred percent right on this. I
(44:03):
just it's not even it's not even something to fight about.
But hope steven they doesn't want to fight about it.
But if he does, I do. Actually, part of me
wants to fight through is because I want him to
understand he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
So whatever, But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
At my core, I know who I am I know
my issues, I know my shortcomings, and I admit them.
I try to be that guy in front of you guys.
When you're not trying to be that guy, then you
feel exposed when they're actually those issues on display or
you're confronted with him. Simple as that. Max and I
used to have the same dynamic. We talk about something black,
(44:36):
some social issue, whatever the hell it was on our show,
and Max will come out and.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Say stuff that the black people in general were saying.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
And then sometimes I wasn't y'all know me, I'm just like,
I don't know about that dog, And I felt that, like, damn,
people ain't even supporting my opinion. Oh well, there are
people in my people that are supporting it. And truly,
I look at my people are the ones that I
rock with, and I rock with all colors. So you
(45:06):
not my homie could be black dog. That's so lazy. Max,
ain't my homie cause he's white. That's so simple, Like
you my homie, because would you say, oh that's dope?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh man? You know that too? Are you like her?
Are you like that? Are you over that too? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I love this place like shared experiences, man, So I
felt with Stephen they felt. But at my core, I
guess we're different because I don't. I'm not stopping anybody
who says Max sound black to you. I'm like, man,
shut up food. First of all, what that even mean?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Food?
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like, I will return fire with a secure viewpoint, not
an insecure attack. That's why people fight because they can't
use this. They can't use that. They gotta use that.
Y'all know how to go. Stephen A and Terrell Owen
steven A needs to let it go. T O called
it like he saw. Stephen A has been blacking it
up lately, but he wasn't always like that. He used
(45:58):
to play devil's advocate against the black community the time
when Skip and even Max was rocking with us. Can't
get mad at Too for telling the uncomfortable truth. Since
steven A doesn't read social media, probably has nothing but
yes men around him. I do disagree with Too saying
he's blacker, like literally like, because that just that binds
black people, that bounds them, that puts them together, Like
(46:20):
there is a sustain as definitive black. No, I don't
like that, but I will say there is now if
you want to talk about like ethnicity, if you want
to talk about like your heritage. Yeah, there's different, like
a person that has one percent black in them and
a person that has ninety nine or one hundred percent
black in them.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
They're different in that capacity.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
But like in terms of social blackness and customs of blackness,
I don't really get down like that. That's because Steven
A is down for himself. This is screwed up. Okay,
this talk about the NFL recap, It was home field
advantage for the Niners. Well, every LA game gonna be
homefield advantage because y'all all love LA. Y'all like the
palm trees, the pretty women, the blombay, the blaze.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Look.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
So I do you think I go when I go
to Chargers games and I see like the last game
went too looking around, Damn, it's a lot of Dolphin
fans and LA better than Miami too. Let it be
not all the time though, y'all know what I'm saying.
All right here you're talking. Let's talk about Dion Rance's kids.
I hear you talking about MJ a lot. Wily seems
(47:24):
like somebody as a favorite kid too. Oh, yes, without doubt,
MJ is my favorite. That's my favorite thing. In this world.
The best creation in this world history, in my eyes,
is Marcellus Vernon Wiley Junior.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
MJ.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I've said it. My family knows it. I've told my
my wife knows. I said, my honey, what my top
five things? She says, MJ. My computer, my radio, that's
God saying. I don't like ugly point being she fifth.
I don't even know what fourth is. I think it's
(48:00):
I think it's uh, chicken wings.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
That's crazy. Uh No, parent love their children equally. Deon
just has have the balls to be honest about it.
Of course, I love them all equally. I don't whatever
love is. I love them all equally. I just gravitate
differently to them, and I like them different, but I
like them all a ton. I don't have any bad kids.
It's just Olivia and I are not the closest because
(48:26):
she loves loves her mama, and her mama loves her
and Ory and I.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Are because she's my mom.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
It's crazy to have a daughter that reminds you of
your mom, because it's like where I take this.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I look up to my mom, but them I'm raising you.
It's crazy. But MJ. Af beyond the best thing ever
in this world. All right, y'all, y'all know we finished
every show we finished it with a wild league is something.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, let me say the white lism, slow down you'll
go faster.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Let me say it like my man, what was the
reverend name God?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Begin with a I forget, slow down, grab, throw off,
slow down, you'll go faster.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
This happens in sports a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
You know, you get out there, you're amped up, you're
pumped up, you do your move all quick and stuff
instead of setting it up. You know, it happens in
life at times you're so anxious and excited to do things.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
You know you've ever been in.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
A rush, and you start to add up how much
time you think you saved and how much time you
really save.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
You're like dog, why am I Russian?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
It's almost like and then you always go forget something
if you're rushing, just always so slow down you'll go faster.
It's amazing. Like track and field shows, it's the one
hundred meters, especially where I think there are six phases
of the race, six phases of one hundred meters, and
if you're doing it right, it's only ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Nine for the elite but most people ten.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
What drive phase, acceleration phase, you know, coast phase point
being they still running and they running hella fast, but
slow it down up like.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
You'll go faster.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's almost like remember when you used to see the
pretty girl. This is back in the day before y'all
had to swipe to go get girls information. We had
to go speak. And you see one, you see somebody
going hot. It always happened at the club too. You're like,
oh she fuck god, oh, I used to love that feeling.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
You're like, you're walking in there, d dog, dog.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Right there right.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
And then now I was the pointer, and I like
the point because nobody likes the point, so it made
me different already I'm be like her right there and
then she looking like this boy just pointed at me,
and I'm like, yes I did, cause I am letting
you know, dodo. So I'm like right there, and then
you'll watch somebody shoot shoot, shoot, like right, you know
(50:52):
what I'm saying, Close encounters at the third and they
just flying in taking their shots and all getting whyed away.
So now dog, let her enjoy, let her get come,
let her get acclimated. Even me and I'm a dude.
But when when I first get somewhere and do work.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
What's up? Man? How you doing much? I love it?
I mean, like god, dog, he came in hot, Like
I ain't mad.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I'm still gonna give love and I'm always gonna break bread
and respect. But I'm like, I would have been a
lot longer, nicer, more long winded, and you would just
waited thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
I just got here.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I'm just trying to figure out where we sitting, and
where the exits are, and most important, everywhere I go
always check out three things.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Where to sit, where the.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Emburncy exits are, and most importantly, if y'all really know me,
where's the air can get conditioning unit?
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Like where the AC unit? Where's it blowing out?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I always be like, watch it ever I go there,
I need that current right there. So man, anything you
got going on?
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Man?
Speaker 1 (51:55):
I know it's like, ah, it's the tortoise in the hair.
What do they say in colors? He said, Hey, let's
run down there and get one of them. He said, nah,
let's walk down and.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Get them all. So slow down, y'all, you'll go faster,
all right, y'all.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
That'll do it for more to it chake the show
notes for all the information on our topics today. Today,
I want to keep the conversation go on. Let's talk
to find me on all socials at Marcell's. Wiley More
Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production that Dude
Entertainment and workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick,
Marcell's Whally, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Thanks for all the.
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Love, ratings and subscriptions and reviews, membership to Wiley's World
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