September 28, 2023 • 55 mins
05:38 Social Deletion
18:47 Joe Namath
31:09 Mcafee in The Middle
43:18 Bonus Topic (Tyreek vs Micah)
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56:00 Wileyism
Deleting your Social Media to avoid Trolls is not healthy!
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y'all know how we start off every show, Well, what's
up with that dude? Yesterday had a call because I
have new representation. Yes, I am going to be represented
in this world in a different mind, I say, and
I look forward to that. Man. It's crazy because it's
an old friend of mine that I've known for fifteen
years in the business, who actually is really cool with
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my former agent, like almost maybe in like a minute
to ship roll, I don't know, but basically my old
agent was a big dog out there, Nick Khan who
now runs the w w E. So shout out to
Ruber Khon Talent and Dave Mara Lees. Yes, that's how
you say it, Dave Mary Lee's He's just Dave to me,
But I gotta say his last name right to give
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him for credit. All right, So I'm moving on up
like the Jeffersons out here, baby, and I love what
we've been doing so far. A lot of stuff going
on in the background that's gonna be four ground for
this show. So excited about that and all the things
we're doing. It's crazy, though, talking to him because he
sounds like my former agent and what y'all don't know,
And I'm gonna tell you right now because I tell
y'all everything over time. When I was at FS one
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my first two years, I was represented by Nick Khan.
He made the move from me from ESPN to FS one.
Then he left to go run w W E great
terms we left on. We still talk. Saw him at
the movies not too long ago. Loved the dude to death.
Whitlock also left at that same time. What people didn't
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know is I didn't have an agent. Now that wasn't
because a lot of people didn't want me to be
their client. You know, I had suitors. I was a
pretty girl that was staying home every night. I was like, no,
I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. And it's crazy because
I think about it and reflect now because deeply I
didn't see my future being brighter in sports media broadcasting
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doing to what I was doing now. I saw me
still getting paid, getting paid, young on me getting paid,
but I ain't see me going higher. I saw me
as plateauing. So I was like, why do I need
somebody to represent what already have? Give me somebody you
could add to what I have, a different direction, et cetera.
And people like Matt pat McAfee as a proof of concept,
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looking at the industry as it was shifting, knowing that
the bosses were going in all sorts of different directions.
Ensemble casts, Okay, no more debate, Let's try and discuss,
but not discussed too much. Let's get high gloss, let's
get an ice skating show, all that stuff. And I
was like, man, look this is looking weird. So long
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story short, I didn't have an agent my last two years,
picking shows, a couple of guys to do some one
off some opportunities. But now I feel like I'm at home,
so excited, and it's good to see that I'm comfortable
in this home because he is actually comfortable with my
old agent. Got the world ties together all right. Other
than that, it's too many damn mosquitos in this world
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right now, at least if you live in LA. I
don't know what the hell is happening. I told you
all about it before, But yesterday I saw something I
never seen before. One two, three, four, five, five mosquitoes
on my left leg at the same damn time. I
looked down at my leg at the second five, and
I couldn't believe it, because first, you're not even supposed
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to fill a mosquito, right, you don't feel when they laying,
they got them good shocks. And then I looked down
I saw I was like, shit swattered them all. Of
course they all lived. And did you know that all
the mosquitoes that bite you are women. You had the females,
they out there trying to feed their babies. So I
was like, well, no food for y'all today, dammit. Please,
somebody in the comments tell me how to get rid
of mosquitos the best way. I don't care if it's
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a gadget, I don't care if it's some ointment, some
ain't a honey, mixing some vinegar with sunflower seeds, I
don't care what you gotta do. Just tell me how
to get rid of mosquitos. They literally got me scared
to go outside in the backyard. Right now, I ain't
lying all right now, I'm speaking of pests or how
to get rid of trolls. Let's talk about this story
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right here. It's called social deletion, but let's be real
about this. This was the Arkansas Arkansas coach Sam Pittman
who recently deleted his ex He deleted his Twitter account,
saying he was frustrated with the negative consequences that come
from fans and supporters having direct access to him, the coaches,
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and the players. I was like, ah, he said, quote
closed my Twitter account, and that's how I feel about it.
I'll be honest with you. I just got sick of it.
The only reason I had in the first place is
for recruiting. Debnit. I'm told it would do well for
the university if I bring it back. So he expressed
his concern with the Twitter account ex account because of
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the personal attacks and abuse that was directed at not
only him but his players all through social media. He
basically like, why I got this bridge open and everything
that comes across his bridge is bad for me? Close
the bridge. That's what he was thinking right there, And
he said he had to spend an ignortoning amount of
time counseling his players extensively about the psychological issues that
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come with social media. He said, I don't think it's fair.
I don't think it's right. I don't think it's right
for the kids had to spend an imenortoning amount of
time counseling some of the players over the comments and
abuse they received on social media. Now, it's interesting because
he's trying to protect the well being of his program.
He's trying to go out there and just coach football.
But what all comes with coaching football. Now, all that
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comes with doing anything that is out in the public's
eye where the public can consume it. It now has
a price, and that's the cost of fame. That's the
cost of being highly publicized, highly visible in this world today.
So they talked deeper about it. He got it to
some other issues, and the thing that I thought was
really interesting is how he said he has an issue
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how people interact on social media, and he said he
emphasized the harm that's caused by the personal attacks, some
of the bodies shaming, and how the coaches are restricted
in terms of the political, religious, and personal affiliations that
they can share on social media, but they got to
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take all of everyone else's affiliations and are expected to
endure that criticism. He said, as a coach, you can't
even have a political affiliation, you can't have a religious affiliation,
can't do anything, but you can take it. Well. I
got tired of taking it, damnit. So he concluded by saying, Hey,
I close my Twitter account because of all the negativity,
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and look, it may lead to more criticisms, so be it.
Y'all could talk about me all you won't probably won't
hear about it because I'm not connected to you guys
through X and Twitter anymore. He said, Hey, we got
an official football team account. Y'all want to talk to
the program? Talk to that damn account over there, and
the recruits can't connect with the team through that vehicle.
And he said, if I do reactivate my Twitter account,
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guess what. I may do it just because they making
me do it, but I ain't gonna engage much on
the platform. All right, here we go. Here are my
thoughts about this, the good and bad that comes with
social media, because I see the good first, like anybody like.
Come on, y'all, we always talk about the negative side
of the crack, the negative side of social media. Let's
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talk run the fact that right now I can connect
to somebody in Japan and send a group text around
the world and everybody can respond to it like that.
I grew up in the era where you couldn't even
go to the library and get the book you want it, right,
Dewey decimal system was letting us down. You got a
library like, oh, yeah, about to get that that book
from Christopher Columbus. I gotta do my book report. You
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get there is checked out. After you all went to
the library, and you're like n C seven four six
nine two eight dash three seven four point eight do
you have that book? She's like and she's scrolling on
the dem stream. She scrolled like it, No, we don't
have that book. Sorry, it's checked out. What And then
it's like, yeah, they supposed to return it three days ago,
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it's overdue. They owe us fifteen cents. Remember those days. Well,
now you could be at the red light. You be like,
damn it, I gotta do a report on Christopher Columbus.
My kid in the back, MJ in the back, I
gotta do a report on Christopher Columbusdaddy when I get home. Oh,
I don't have to wait till I get home, Daddy.
I use my eye tad christpher for Columbus, Daddy, how
you spell Christopher boy? All right? So Christopher Columbus enter? Ah,
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he already got it right there ain't checked out either, Right,
and Lizzy gets older, he all of a sudden can
broadcast that to the world. Look at my report that
I did on Christopher Columbus. Why do I pay Christopher's Columbus?
Do not ask me? That's just the first book report
I remember I had to do. So it takes me
back to the issues that come from social media, because
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what social media is really bombarding you with is this.
It's the outside world telling you something good or bad.
Because social media could flatter you too. Don't act like
it always shames you. It could flatter you. But remember,
is the outside world's thoughts of you greater than your
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belief in yourself and your thoughts of yourself? Right? So
are you somebody who is letting the world tell them
that they're greater than they are? That's how you get cocky?
Right You ever hear somebody read their own press clippings,
you ever did it yourself. I have all of a sudden,
you start believing the hype right, and then you become
something else different than your own belief of who you are.
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That balance in that. Or you could be a person
who think who you are, I'm good and bad, I'm motherly,
I got it all. You know, I'm balanced, and they
can be killing you. You could go through a firestorm
on social media and they can make you think you're
worse than you are. Just like playing sports, you win
a game, don't think you the super Bowl champions because
you want to know. At the same time, if you
on water, if you all on one, don't think you
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ain't gonna make the super Bowl, right, don't think you
can't be super Bowl champions. Always that balance in that.
It takes me back to my two rules of social media.
Never respond to negativity. Why I hate when I hear
people out there about well, you not on my level
and I'm not on your level. We'll respond I'm not
doing it. It's not a level thing. It's about I'm
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giving energy to something that I don't want. So if
I don't want it, why give it energy? Because if
I give it energy, oh I'm gonna get energy because
energy can't be cree it or destroyed, just exchange. Correct.
So I'm not giving energy to anything I don't want,
and I don't want negativity, so I don't respond to negativity.
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Even though some of those people who are being negative
are actually correct, they're accurate, or they're not on my level.
Some of them may be above my level right in
certain aspects. Who gives it Naw, I ain't ranking who
critiquing me, or it's an egg, It doesn't matter really.
So if you walk past a homeless person and they
give you some jewels and some words of wisdom, you
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ain't gonna take them jewels because you're gonna judge the messenger,
not the message. Ah, So don't give it any energy
just because it's negative, and it will give you back
negative energy. The second rule I have is this is
the tricky one. Never clarify yourself and your position. Don't
do it, because that's the slippery one. That's the one
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that's hiden behind, that's the devil in a different colored dress.
Like oh oh, marsh others said this, Tom said that,
and next thing you know, no, I ain't say that,
and then they like gout it. They liked your ass up.
All they trying to do is set the trap for you.
So never respond to negativity because you don't want negativity back,
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and to never clarify your position. I know it's coming
from me, and every time it comes from me, I'm like, whatever,
I already said what I said, because I said it,
and that's all it is. So it's funny. I've worked
with a lot of people in sports media who will
project like they are so secure, right, But I've been
there with them because they're my boys, they my homegirls,
or I've seen them on set, or I've seen them
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quiet in the corner, and you know what they doing.
Ninety eight percent of them are literally in a funk,
getting paid millions of dollars to talk about athletes and
sports in a funk with a suit on, in an
air conditioning studio, in a funk. You want to know
why they're in a funk because somebody on social media
said that I was wrong and they're killing me. Men,
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do you have kids? Focus on your kids? Do you
have pets? Focus on your petscause you act like they're
your kids. Whatever? You got a family? Like, are you serious?
Like what I mean? You don't think you're perfect. Right, okay,
so someone is acknowledging your imperfections, right, okay, So what's
the problem. Like somebody call me Marselves, I'm like, yeah,
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that's my name. If somebody says you're not perfect, I'm saying, yeah,
you're right. Like, what are we doing here? We're not
gonna battle right now. I understand. Sometimes somebody gets you
no matter who you are, you knowing of us are perfect,
somebody really get at you and you're like, yo, what
should I do? I'm just telling you, man, that's part
of the price of sticking yourself out there. And if
you're a celebrity, that's the price of fame, and it's
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a muscle that needs to be developed. All of us
have to develop that muscle. In today's times. The muscle
you must develop is how to deal with public criticism,
and we all have to deal with it. If we
are on a public platform, you have three followers, you
gotta deal with some of the criticism where it comes
from those three followers. Right. You ain't gonna say everything
perfect to three people, let alone three million, let alone
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thirty million, as some of these people have and following.
So just remember that, right, because I'm reminding my wife
right now through this process because her social media, her
pr her level of fame is picking up by the second.
She's getting more and more recognized right now. Matter of fact,
she was so excited yesterday she got her first invitation
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exclusively to a huge event, foundation event, red carpet event, etc.
And I'm trying to be the husband that is excited
every single time that something amazing happens to my wife.
But that is like my ninety thousandth invitation, but it's
her first. So now she's developing that muscle, right, And
that's a positive thing. Develop that muscle. Right. As you
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break down anything, it gets built up stronger. But what
comes with all this love she's about to get. Oh
look at it, Marie here, Look at them, Maria there,
look at the Maria. There is somebody like, yeah, look
at Anna, Marie you right know right. So I'm trying
to help her, but I can't lift them weights for her.
She's gonna have to go through that process like we
all have. So what do you guys think in terms
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of the strategies that can be employed to strike that
balance on social media? I hate when people say I
cut it off I'm like dog, you can't cut off
the world, you know, like, embrace the world, know what
the world is, and then you be fine with it.
If you know who you are, you know what the
world is, you know what battle you're in. So I
hate when people be like, yeah, I'm tired of they
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talking about me. I'm tired of them talking about me,
And I'm like them, they they is us. You ever
catch somebody talking about they like what I'm talking about?
You about all of us? We part of the problem. Brother,
Do not act like you bigger than dial right, So
let's just get into this situation the proper way, and
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it's interesting. Mental health obviously have been a big conversation
of brown social media. So look, if you a person
just can't take somebody talking bad about you, I ain't
talking to you, and I hope I don't know anybody
like that, and I hope no one is actually like that,
but hey, to each his own. Delete your account then,
But if you have an account, just know what you're
engaging in. Something that is gonna highlight the good in you,
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and sometimes it's gonna stress the bad in you. I
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iddy bidies. All right, let's talk about Joe who says
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that Zach Wilson, you ain't making an impact, damnit. Trying
to get your butt up out of here. So we
saw the Jets lose to the Patriots and they lost
fifteen to ten. I saw somewhere where the pictures and
beat them what like thirteen times in a row. That
can't be real. God, Lee, Lord, you talking about having
your number. So he got interviewed Joe Namath on the
Yes Network and he said, Nope, I didn't take anything
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positive out of it. Yesterday, talking about Zach William Wilson's performance,
he said he was really disappointing what he saw on
the field. Now, obviously he played the position before, so
his words do have weight. And then his name is
Joe Namath, he did wear a fur. He still is
representing the Jets. What fifty sixty seventy years later, it
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seemed like. So when he says something, let's say it
breaks the concrete. Where's that from? So Joe Namath kept
going in on your boy, Zach Wilson, and he said
it was quote unquote disgusting when he saw Zack Wilson
specifically on one play take a sack instead of like
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squirming out of it, trying to fight for more yardists
fight to look down the field to hit the receiver.
We all know what he was talking about in those moments.
So it's out of frustration express and he said, he said,
Zach Wilson need to go to Kansas City and sit
on the bench behind my homes and learn from a
great quarterback. Got dang no filter. But you know, when
you have you Joe Namas age, they always say, when
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you have lived longer, then you will live going forward.
Whatever that number is, you don't give a damn. And
let's just say right now Joe Ninnis. He does not
give a damn oh man. He said, you sit down. Quote,
you sit down on the play, You go right down.
What happened? Thought you were trying to win and make plays?
You quit on the play. What is going on is disgusting.
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So all that criticism adds up to the words and
the wait of an all time great coming down on
the present day quarterback. All right, let me give him
some positive. As he did say about it, he said
they had quick feed. He could throw a little bit.
Old people just make cracks for your Old people always
got a little stinging even their compliments. Oh that's that's cute, baby.
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I hope you ain't going outside looking like you look,
what the what you're talking about? Grandma? So there. Old
people always just got to let you know, Hey, I
don't live too long. Filter off when you're young, when
you're a kid like my kids. No filter when you're old,
no filter. Everything in between is just BS, cocktail party
PC talk. Oh inclusion like y'all lying. You know you
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check their group text for inclusion if you want to
talk like that. So here we go. The weight of
the words when they come from a Hall of Famer,
when they come from a great when they come from
someone like a Joe Namath. You know what it is.
And it's funny because the old timers are always hovering
because you represent them when they can't play anymore. The
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brand that they have is now being charged by how
you play. Think about this, and I know you're like,
what whatever school you went to, Let's say you went
to Notre Dame and then you want to know the
Dame and you were damn good, and then you want
to know the Dame. Y'all were damn good, and then
you leave Notre Dame and you hanging out and you
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the damn good guy from a whole Notre Dame, but
now know the Dames. Sorry. You see how that affects you.
You see how you got to go through these unnecessary
but necessary conversations of what happened and oh man, thought
you guys were amazing when you were there, and then
they pump you up. But there's not the fulfillment that
comes from y'all still doing what you started. What you did,
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and that's how we all connected. That's how all these
schools get these big endowments. That's how they get us
all to continue to pledge and continue to give back
to our schools because we want to make sure that
we keep the reputation high. So therefore what you did
is actually being properly represented. I went to Columbia. It
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was a top five school in the world. If it
falls out of the top twenty, then people don't look
at me like I went to a top five school
in the world, but I did. But now they ain't
top twenty. Then what they gonna look at me like?
They're gonna be like I thought you were smart. Your
school ain't that smart? Noo. See how it goes. So
it does matter that Joe name if to make sure
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that the Jets still are the Jets, because when I
was with the Jets, we out there getting it. I
predicted a championship and damnit we did it. Now don't
look at the Jets. What the hell is this now?
Obviously these comments wouldn't land if Aaron Rodgers were the
quarterback because they would be doing better. Let's be real,
and then Joe Nama could sit back and just say, hey,
let me fan the flames the greatness of Aaron Rodgers
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and what his impact is. But he ain't there, so
now he gonna have to make sure everyone knows these
are not the Jets that we want, and especially Zach
Wilson is not the quarterback that we need. So how
is Zach feeling right now? Everyone always talk about New
York media, and I played in New York but not
at the professional level. But still it's New York media.
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I know it very well. This is how Zach is feeling.
Zach has forgotten that he is playing a game of inches.
Football is a game of inches. Why is that important
right now for Zach Wilson to hear and know? Because
Zach Wilson has to remind himself that playing that game
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of inches means that you're closer than you actually think.
Let me say it again, it's a game of inches.
You lose these games, unless it's Denver in Miami, than
it's a game of yards. But everything else is a
game of inches. You know, you're that close from being
the winner or being the loser, from playing well to
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not playing well, to making that play to not making
that play. I tell you what Barry Sanders told me.
He said, the difference between a six yard loss tackle
for loss and a sixty yard touchdown. Go Barry is
six inches. And think about it. I mean time you've
seen a guy go like this, Oh he missed touchdown?
Or are those catches now that everybody? The cornerback's hand
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is right here and he catches touchdown inches. Zack Wilson,
you way closer than you think, because objects in the
mirror are closer than they appear. If you look in
your rear view mirror, you look in your side view mirrors.
You see the Zach Wilson who was bawling at BYU.
Remember him? You see the Zach Wilson who walking around
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campus saying, yeah, I'm the man. And then you going
to BYU and you tah, I hope you was like, yeah,
and these are my women. If I went to BYU,
I'd be like, coach, is it true? He'd be like,
what's true? I'd be like you stop playing. You can't
recruit me. No, all the way, like I ain't going
to be yuunless I mean it's good right. We all
kicking it right, all of them. So anyway, Zack Wilson
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got he has to remind himself he's that close though.
I remember when I was playing great, and when I
was isn't playing great? And literally I was playing okay,
good bad, okay, and then it's just like, how can
it go like this? Everyone always says that the light
goes on, right, the game slows down. Click. You know why,
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because you're that close. If it went clicking, you weren't
nowhere around you, wouln't even hear the click. You wouldn't
even see the click. It would be no clicking. It's
just be like, what what you're talking about? So Zach,
I just laugh every time I see somebody's the man,
the senior on campus with the letterman jacket, and oh yeah,
I'm in high school, I'm the man. And then go
to college freshman year. Uhuh, how do you play football again?
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I'm like, dog, relax, you're that close. Just put the
work in, man, and believe in yourself greater than all
those outsiders and how they're trying to project on you.
Right now it's not going well, don't get it twisted.
You suck right now. I mean your performance sucks. It's
that you don't suck it. What you putting out there whack.
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But it's that close game of inches. Trust me, I
know you don't because in this situation, the game me,
people who have seen you play believe in you you're
coach Robert Sola. Even though he lying a little bit,
but he doing his job. He believes in you. But
all of us can be overruled by one person, Zach Wilson.
(26:19):
Don't overrule us in this situation. Now, let's talk about
coach Lyon because that does hurt the team because you
know why in this situation, we know he's lying because
Zach Wilson has messed up before, not started for this
team before. And we've had chance of other quarterbacks before,
and we went out and got Aaron Rodgers, gave him
(26:39):
a king's ransom, and we said our fortunes in future
is in Aaron Rodgers hand, and Zach Wilson, you sit
back and learn. And now Zach Wilson has to start
when we done already cast you away? Oops. Oops, what
do they say? Don't give up for show to get
(26:59):
more because your end up with no. And that's what happened.
They gave up a for show and they for show
was gonna lose with Zach Wilson, but they gave it
up to get more because they wanted more wins out
of Aaron Rodgers. And now they got no quarterback out
of Aaron Rodgers or Zach Wilson crazy how the game goes.
But remember this man, don't let even a Joe name it.
From the weight that he carries and his name and
(27:22):
what he's saying make you forget how close you can
be to where you want to go game of inches,
and it's that close for Zack Wilson. So what do
y'all think about Zach Wilson right now? You think it's
the future of him or he done? I don't think
he toasted yet. I just don't. I think he does
need some mental makeup changes. I think he needs to
stop giggling on the sidelines. I think he needs to
(27:44):
express himself a little more. Fake it till you make
it. It's okay to have a persona big dog. You don't
have to always show your true colors. Show some fake colors,
you know what I mean. That's how a lot of
animals survive in the wild. Camouflage, chameleon, fake colors. Whatever
you gotta do to get yourself to where you gotta go.
So y'all think he's done or y'all think he got
a little life left. And what do you think the
(28:05):
fortunes of the Jets are there're fifty two guys in
that locker room like, oh God, hate this. And there's
one Zach Wilson. Will he revive himself and helped the
Jets survive this season? Yelloway, oh man. I've always been
called a nerd, always been called corny. So if you
call me that, you gotta get in line, because I've
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Sports media. My man Pat McAfee. His show looks amazing.
(29:08):
I love how they had the disclaimer in the beginning too.
They're like, look, basically, we're gonna cuss and we just
having fun. Up here, y'all tripping, don't sue us. I
like that, man, It's so good to see, all right.
So they had a recent episode on the show where
the producer Todd Schmidt interviewed Notre Dame's former head coach
Lou Holst. Salute first of all, whoo Lou hosts. So
(29:29):
Bobby Bouten first, let me just go at it. I
don't care they say comparison is the thief of joy.
Well let's steal some joy, dammit. Because I grew up
on two coaches in the eighties. I have my coaches
out there, coach Melvin Smith, senior coach Blue rest in Peace,
had all my coaches, but demit. When I looked at TV,
I don't even know like the NFL coaches like that.
(29:50):
I heard of, you know, Tom Landry and stuff, but
I wasn't watching them like that. I was watching Lou
Holst just sit there. I swear Lou hostess to be
sitting there with that hat on you but just looking
like this, and didn't Bob bout it looked like he
always chilling, like he always just he always ordered lemonade.
He just always like, yeah, I take a three piece.
Oh go run that testdown, like he just looked chill
(30:11):
and oh that th that used to give me hypes.
So when I saw Lou Holst was in this story,
obviously he got my energy up. Well, he was getting
impersonated by the producer Tye and he was doing an
interview with Lou Holts as impersonating Lou Hoats. So he
talking to himself in character, right, So he fully in character,
(30:32):
He got the costume, he got the prosthetic face, everything,
full character, all right. So during the segment, this is
what happened. The real Lou Hosts criticized Ohio State in particular,
saying under coach Ryan Day that the team looks softer
and that's led to some of their losses, right, and
he predicted Notre Dame was gonna win because of that assessment. Duh.
(30:57):
First of all, that's one of those rivalry rooting kind
of statements, like the rhetoric. Let me say that rivalry
rooting rhetoric, right, He ain't really reping, he just like,
how do I get to saying, no, the dyin't gonna win. Oh,
they look soft? Right, So that's how that went. Now,
Remember the real Lou host is saying this to the
fake Lou Holts and it gets around town. Let's just
(31:19):
say that. So here's a quote from it addressing this
after coach Ryan Day caught wind of it, and after
of course they win last second victory over No the Dame.
He said, I like to know where Lou Holts is
right now, what he said about our team, what he
said about our team. I cannot believe these coaches. First
(31:40):
of all, like yesterday, Dan Lanning stopped talking about hearing
know the cameras were there. Ye. It ain't a place
you go in this world right now where there's not
gonna be a camera, or you already know there's a
camera there and you hoping that it's there so you
can get caught for your recruiting purposes. So obviously coach
Day know that the this was gonna get back, right
(32:00):
He said, h I texted everybody I know from Ohio State. Uh,
this is what they were saying on the show. I
was like, I fucking love Ryan Day. I love the
fact that he was like, I was hitting old man.
I do not care what this guy said is out
of pocket. And now we got the back and forth.
You got McAfee just chimed in, loving the fact that
(32:22):
Ryan Day was like, Lou Hoats, I don't give a
damn you said something about my team, something about my bars.
We're about to go to war. And then Pat McAfee
going in tied like dog, I'm just faking Lou Hoax
and lou Holst is over there, like what's going on?
One thing about Lou Holst and I've worked with him
a few times. I could see why. He was a
hell of a coach and hell of a recruiter and man,
(32:43):
it's smart, wise but gentle like kind of like like
like I hate to say, this is gonna sound like
a Yoda, like you know, he was like, what you
feel wiser around that sucker? Man, I love that dude. Right,
So then all this was kind of like a little
bit of a joke, a little bit of serious and
you didn't you know where to go with this? Right,
So then lou Holas also joked about having dementia and
(33:04):
not fully understanding what he was saying during the interview
in the first place. What do we make of all
of this? He questioned whether Day was aware that lou
Holts was actually talking to a fake Lou Hoax because
Ryan Day came in a little hot one hundred came
in a little hotter than you think he should have
when he should have seen or known. The context of
(33:24):
this was like, dog, come on, it's Lou Holts rooting
for Notre Dame talking to a fake Lou Hoax. Maybe
it's not that serious, that deep, Okay. So then they
all kind of buttoned it up by saying, Hey, look
us being in the middle of the whole thing is
so dumb. I was laughing until I thought I was
going to pass out on Saturday Day night. That's what
(33:45):
happened on the Pat McAfee show. Kind of antics Day
up too over there. And it's crazy because sometimes you
get lost in not knowing the scenario the situation, like
Ryan Day probably did, and you just read it and
you just hear about it. He said, what are you say?
What I say? What? Oh? This is my moment. I
can step up with Lou Holts and say something bad
about not to Day and get some of them recruits.
(34:05):
Come over, Oldhillo, state I don't know why I got
that Ryan Day voice, and keep it going. So all
of that can work right now. It was taught from
a rivalry tongue. It was coming from a place of life.
But he did say something I want to talk through.
How does the entire team get labeled soft? How do
you call somebody in combat sports and contact sports soft? Now,
(34:28):
let's be real. There are times when you don't want
to hit somebody for various reasons. You can have. I
had a separated ac joint in my shoulder. That man
that hurt. I didn't want to go and pound people. Now.
I couldn't run away from contact because you know, on
the football field, you don't go one hundred percent or
you one hundred percent guaranteed to get your ass hurt
(34:50):
again and again. So there were times I didn't want
to hit because of injury. Was there ever a time
I didn't want to hit? Was there ever a time
I was soft just because the game? Yeah, I'll give
you a moment. I had to go against Jamie Nails
one time in practice. Jamie Nail's weigh four hundred and
nineteen pounds at one time. And I remember telling you, guys,
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and I keep reiterating that it's one thing to go
against a great player when they're on another team. Sixty
seventy reps for we playing once a season. Maybe we
don't play them at all. Maybe we gotta play them
twice because they're in our division whatever, one hundred and
twenty reps max. When they're your teammate, let me just
(35:31):
tell you what happens. You ain't gotta see a Wednesday Thursday,
Friday loop around, Gotta see him next Wednesday Thursday. You're like, God,
I had to hear Jamie Nils four nineteen pounds one
time we had to do Oklahoma drill, sir, And I'm
looking up and I'm like, I'm looking at it, like, coach,
(35:53):
this is a rhino. This is a moose. This is
not this is not a mammo like me. This is
a different animal. And I'm not lying. He knocked my
helmet in directions in it. I ain't supposed to go
ear pads on nose, you know, right here, the forehead
pad on the chin. And I was like and I
(36:13):
blacked out. See, I played in the era where we
didn't get concussions. We never said concussion. I don't think
I ever heard of play. I'm not lying concussion. I
heard of people getting knocked out, which was a concussion,
but concussed. Like Jimmy Garoppolo, he's in concussion protocol like that,
what play what we ain't even take what tent ain't
no medical tent food. We better go out there playing.
(36:35):
So when it happened to me and you know, Oklahoma drill,
you gotta go twice bow, I'm like wow. And then
right then I didn't want to hit him again. I
ain't lying. I swear to y'all. Wanted to quit football. Now.
There have been times I thought about my football mortality,
and I thought about quitting football when I was younger,
but I was like that moment. I was like, I
(36:57):
would do anything for a lifeline, get me out of
this next rep, because you gotta go twice coach. All
all right, Everybody like, ooh, I see you, Wiley, not
like in a good way, like I ain't dead yet,
I see you, Whyley, You're still alive. Nails ooh, nails
walking like this boo getting dinged up again, And I
remember putting my hand down and have to look up again,
and it was like I went from black to just
(37:20):
nails again. Who was just eating up the whole visual
screen again? And then you hear that whistle again, and
I swear I don't even know what happened. I don't
know what happened, but then you move on with the
rest of practice. Uh soft. I've always took exception to
soft when you're talking about combat, contact sport us, because
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I ain't nothing soft about it. Even even the guys
who don't want to hit, like Dion Sanders, they say,
never want to hit, ain't nothing soft about him though.
He just don't want to hit somebody. And that ain't
the only way you measure someone soft, right Sometimes soft is, hey,
there's some adversity in front of you. Hey, we down,
we down five right now? When the ball one twenty
(38:04):
two to go? Are you soft? You thought the game
was over? Are you soft? You don't want to believe
and drive us down here? Are you soft? You ain't
gonna run through the next wall? Are you soft? You
know what I mean? Like soft is mental too. It
ain't just physical express only physically. So I've seen some
guys who in crunch moments, critical moments, freeze up, you know,
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not like don't want that challenge, avoid that, And I
see it with my little kids right now. Some kids
just don't want to go through the smoke. They just don't.
So I ain't take exception to her, But I just
wanted to talk a little deeper through what soft looks
like and what is it mean? And what do y'all
think of Pat McAfee's show so far. I think it's
doing amazing. Everything I see about it. I love. I
(38:46):
love the fact that I love the intros. I love
the fact that he's still at the crib. I love
all what I see And should head coach Ryan Day
should have took this a little lighter, right man? Maybe
he did take it lighter, but he was like this
a moment. I'm a rock. If Dan Landing getting props,
I'm about to get mine too, right. So, and do
y'all agree with what lujol said about Ohio State? Do
you think a team could be soft? I do. I
(39:08):
know what you're saying, But show me how. Don't just
say yeah, y'all sawt Why explain yourself? Well? Today I
feel like I was rolling blade. I'm sorry. All right,
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Tyreek Hill Michael Parson's got a little playful, playful back
(39:53):
and forth right now using their platforms. They're both on
their podcast talking trash about each other. Man. It's pretty
fun to see. Basically, Tyreek Hill is saying that he's
a lion, not just a cheetah anymore, and Michael Parsons
is saying, look, bro, I love you, big dog, but
guess what you are. You may be a baby lion
a cup, but you are not a big lion yet.
(40:16):
So Parsons said, listen, Tyrek, if you come over my
way and I see you coming my way, I'm sending
you to the tent. I'm sending you to the sidelines.
You're gonna say, hey, coach, I don't want nothing to
do with Michael Parsons. You don't want to do that.
I already said it once, I said it on social media.
My baby girl's getting cheetah print for Christmas. She's getting
a cheetah print. Come over here to my side of
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my baby. Girl's getting cheatah print. All right. So that's
what's funny about this. Now they went back and forth.
They having fun with it. You know, Miami is out
there eating balling out of control. I saw that Week
one when they came to play the Chargers. They just
got a tremendous, tremendous team speed. The skilled position players
are outstanding to a is to people forget. And this
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is why I was always on the tour train. He
was the most efficient college quarterback in history. Think he's
gonna be all right in the NFL. Let's just say that,
all right, so we know all that goes. What I
want to talk about is how play play. All this
fun and games turns real once you cross the white lines,
once you are on the field. That switch that athletes
(41:23):
have the ability to compartmentalize with that switch because it's
really a psycho switch. It's really crazy to see. Okay,
because I played with guys who have that switch. Nice guys.
I tell my Chris Bilman. If you don't know Chris
Bilman is google him about that life Gladiator right now
during the work week, Chris Bilman is a nice guy,
(41:44):
just walks around. Went to Ohio State. Guess he's soft
lou hoas, No, he ain't. So he walked around like this.
I seen him a few times out with the double
decker stroller song with the family and stuff. Pro used
to wear pro wings, like just a normal like a
dad like all in dad, like hey Chris. He's like, Hi,
how are you? Nice guy? Good dude. And then Sunday
(42:08):
would come around. He's the first one that I experienced.
I was like, oh, like, I gotta go to that place,
to go out there on that field and do what
I need to do, okay, because I thought I was
already going to a good place, but he went to
a special place. So I'm looking at him like he
all of a sudden came in the locker room and
he's doing this. He's like terminator and I'm not lying,
(42:30):
not blinking and not breaking stare with nobody, just walking
and I'm like, so, you know you read the cues.
You're looking around like all right, I don't mess with him,
I guess right. Then you see him playing, You're like, yeah,
I know why. But then you watch him he's not
breaking stare. You're getting out of his way, and then
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he had two smelling salts jammed up each nostril and
was walking around with him activated like this. I was like, damn,
I ain't gonna lie. So I'm glad he's my team.
He hit me all and then you saw how he played.
He was like, goodness. Now I juxtaposed that him and
(43:15):
a John Henderson. Remember Big John Henderson played for the
Jacksonville Jaguars. So psycho, so cycho, let go, just spitting yelling,
walking up to the training staff. Slap me in my face?
What slap me again? Look at me. I'm faking to
slap and I ain't even hit myself. He's like, yeah,
don look, I mean I was like, I gotta go
(43:38):
there to go on that field. Now this is like
my nine tenth year lead, so I already know like
I ain't got to do all that. But there's a switch.
You juxtaposed that. Contrast that with these guys like a
Ted Washington. Ted Washington, no game baby, sitting there on
his chair just looking around. He just be looking at people.
He'd be like, I know you ain't gonna do nothing.
(43:59):
Just you. I got like old Grandma, Look I know
you ain't gonna do nothing today. Look at you, boy,
Look at you? Boy? Is that a limp? You already?
You're already tight you already. Boy. You had a bad
practice last week. I know you ain't about to show it.
You just got jokes. You're like damn ted ted go
out there. Wah wah wah wah. Put them hands, them
palls on people, lock it down, Junior say out he
(44:21):
in the pregame, buddy, what's up? Guys? What's a great
day to be alive? Ain't? Oh my god, what would
you rather do than do this right now? I love you, man,
You're gonna be good, Like Junior's just this is you
got a stand up show at one o'clock kick off,
just kicking it and then go out there sideline, sideline, sideline, sideline,
(44:43):
crazy right, But there's a switch, and that switch is
how Michael Parsons, how Tyreek Hill are gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, and then for roastious out there, Lions, cubs, cheetahs,
whatever you want to call it, they're gonna get it in.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So I just love when you see the meat and
potatoes storylines, get some of the flavor. These guys going
back and forth woofing at each other, talking that trash.
Who ain't gonna watch Oregon next time they play Colorado?
Just for more than anything, I want to see what
coach is gonna do now, Prime, what's your response to
that landing? You got the same kind of you got
(45:23):
the same energy. Oregon, y'all gonna back that up. Colorado,
y'all gonna step it up. That's what I love about
sports man. You always got a chance to respond as
long as you do it the right way. So I
love when real play play turns to real, real real
on the football field. Tell me how you think this
helps in terms of the context of a game and
(45:44):
gets you invested and interested in it. It's all playful
until somebody really gets hurt, or somebody really gets on
that field to realize these hits really hurt and better
player Michael Parsons or Tyreek Hill. Who's the real lion
out of those two? And who's the cub in that conversation?
All right, y'all, it's trying to fuck us from comics,
(46:05):
fuckus from commas. Share t O and Shannon, let's talk
to it. I'm on Steven A. Smith's side on this.
I didn't like how he went at Max as unentertaining
as Max was. I try watching the shows, I think
to keep answering why you let him go needs to end,
especially if you and him don't rock with each other.
But to needed to mind his business because he know
he and that man no longer rock with each other. Also,
I get it, uh, I'm riding with Steven A. Smith.
(46:30):
When you go as a black man added black man,
that's what he meant, that a white man is blacker
than that black man. As a black man. You call
Stephen A Smith a sambo on National TV. You got
all these people riding with you. But Steven A. Smith
is a journalist. His business is gossip. T O ain't
winning this, okay, Stephen A. Smith deserves all the smoke
coming this way. It was totally uncalled for the dog
Max like that just to show off his power at ESPN.
(46:53):
Shannon better not outshine him or he's gonna catch some
of that secondhand smoke. Yeah. The thing about it is
Stephen A. Smith. I do not dislike stephen A. Smith.
I look forward to seeing stephen A. Smith again whenever
that may be. I have no issue with him. What
I have an issue with is when someone does the
wrong thing, and I don't care who you are. I
was raised that way. My daddy didn't give a damn.
(47:14):
When I came home, I said, Daddy, Daddy, they messing
with me. He said, what you do first thing? He
ain't asked, but they did either. What you do? Now
tell him and he was like, what you really do
because you know that wasn't the full story. Then I
tell him the full story and he like, you did
this wrong, that made them do that, and then they
did that wrong, and then you need to respond like this.
But my daddy never ever was lenient with me when
(47:36):
he knew I was in the wrong. I ain't gonna
do the same. That's how I was raised. Look, you
could do better than that, Steven A. Smith. Leave Max alone. Bro,
you ain't gonna ever you You will never clarify that
properly because clarifying it properly means telling the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and that ain't
gonna make you look good. So leave it alone. We
get it. You lied about it, you did them wrong,
(47:57):
whatever you want to call it. It's all good now.
You and too, that's minor, that's I mean, it's major
to t because ESPN has been dogging them for years.
So I know why you're mad, But hey, both of
y'all took it out on somebody else. Lead that alone,
Oregon coach Travis Hunter wouldn't have made a difference. Oregon
could have actually scored more. It's different playing trash teams
like Colorado State University against playing the league talent like Oregon.
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It would have made a difference because psychologically he would
have inspired them to do more. I don't know if
the score is different, but the guys may have played better.
You can play better and still not score more. Sometimes,
you know, like you could have a win and to
be an ugly win, right, and you could have a
pretty loss and you also could just feel better about Okay,
we didn't do this and that. I mean, look, it
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goes all ways. So you try and tell me Travis
Hunter on the field does nothing to them. That's ignorant.
We know that that ain't true. Maybe the score is
not closer, but at the same time, it doesn't mean
that the guys weren't gonna go out there and play better.
I've been in games before when we scored but we
ain't moved a ball but we just scored big plays
or took advantage of the mistake. But that wasn't making
us feel the best because we're like everything we call
(49:03):
wasn't working. Just one or two plays here and there,
you know the game. Um, let's go here. The coach
for Oregon is great. He deserves all the props in
the world. Tired at Prime and his spoiled sons. Oh
we doing that, spoiled sons. Oh, the boys work. Stop
letting Instagram fool you. Stop letting well Off Media and
his production company fool you. The boys work. Everybody, no
(49:28):
one is good at anything without working. Can y'all stop that?
Remember y'all did that to Dwight Howard. He just rolls
out the bed. He's seven feet and he got muscles.
Don't work out. See how many muscles you got? Right?
Think about it? Stop shanning his skip. Stephen A. Smith
didn't treat Max Killerman any better. In my opinion, he
was always kind of sending towards Max. Here we go. Honestly,
(49:51):
even though I think Skip was out of pocket, I
don't believe he really thought he was disrespecting Shannon on
any other He did exchange his skip. Just is who
he is. He's always been a guy that takes shots,
low blows when he gets fired up and over emotional.
But I don't think he really lost respect for him.
Could be wrong, truth be told. I think it was
the other way around after some of their heated exchanges.
But where Skip might have thought everything was fine, Shannon
(50:11):
wasn't going for it. Yeah, look Skip, Skip fights barely
with the gloves on, like all right, if he's gonna
fight you, the gloves are on, but they're not tied,
they're not laced, and they're easy to slip off and
why and he expects you to do the same, except
(50:33):
he can't take it the same. He expects you to fight,
but it hurts him. You know why, because I've seen
when Shannon did fight back Skip, all of a sudden
changes the conversation. So the way Skip fights is emotionally.
So people who are emotional they don't fight physically the same.
They stop doing this and then they start being passive aggressive,
or they start bringing up other stuff, or they start
(50:55):
talking about different things to try and get at you
right and you're like, what we're about to where you going?
And that's how Skip fights. So UFC Dana white. If
it's a contact sport like UFC or football, I care
quite a bit about transgenders competing. If it's non contact
sport like swimming, track and field or whatever, I could
not care less. I care all the time the same amount,
(51:17):
just because I just know that men versus women in
sports is not a fair fight at the highest levels.
It's not, you know, man to women. I got boys,
I got I got a boy, I got a girls.
Stop it. I'm a man. I play stop it. So
I like to protect women. I like to protect men.
You simple as that. And then you hear about some
(51:39):
of these hits, some transgenders playing tackle football hurt, putting
it in work, putting it, putting it work. All right?
You know how we finished every show, We finishing with
a why league is them? Yeah? Fall in love with
the process and the results will love you back. Yes,
fall in love with the process and the results will
love you back. That's how the game goes, you know,
(52:02):
not just go through the process, go through the motions.
Fall in love with it, because you're gonna start to
find the subtleties. You're gonna find the little knioks and crannies.
You need to really do the job to another level,
and then you're gonna love work. If you'll love working well,
you're gonna outwork everybody. Right. And that's why I'm trying
to condition my kids to doing right now. Stop complaining,
(52:24):
don't mope, don't make it hard on yourself. Enjoy what
you're doing, because you're gonna do it anyway, might as
well have fun doing it. Find the fun in it.
And there's always I say to them, because when we
go out in public, then all of a sudden, they like,
you know, kids don't understand those dynamics. They're used to
controlled environments. Think about it at home, at a playdate,
at a party, right, all still controlled, even though it
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may be chaos within it at school, etc. Right when
you take them out in this round, you take them
to a game or something, they're like, oh god, we
oh what are we doing? Oh? Why is it takes
so long? Why are so many people here? Why is
it so long? A lying to get some I'm like
one word, I always say, one word. What's the word? Patience?
The process teaches you you have to have patience. You're improving,
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taking a step forward, a step back, two steps forward,
one step back, two steps forward, three steps back patience,
but still go through the process and love it. Love
that patient process that you're enduring. Once you do that,
guess what's gonna happen. And I don't know when it's
gonna happen. It happens faster for some, it happens in
a long time. For some. Let's be real, sometimes it
doesn't happen. You gotta shift gears, you gotta shift lanes,
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But the results gonna love you back because even if
you gotta shift lanes, you're gonna go somewhere where you belong.
You're gonna go somewhere where you need to go. If
you said I'm gonna open up a business and guess what,
ah man, I'm about to sell me some gadgets, and
next thing you know, the business of selling gadgets doesn't work.
But your network, your inner software, what you did to
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all of a sudden coalesced and to make sure you
designated all the systems, that's what worked. People want to
buy that from you, and we don't want your gadget,
But damn how you service that, how you got that distributed,
how you got that out there. It's sitting buying that.
Then you can really sing it. Same thing with this show,
Never Shut Up. I started off saying, I just want
to tell the truth about everything, learn and une learn,
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and I might have a variety of topics. I know
some topics ain't gonna go viral. I ain't stupid. Some
topics people will be like, all right, that was a
good story, but I are you know, and I know
certain topics will. And it's funny because you guys are
the marketplace. So I give you the buffet, and I
see what y'all eating. What y'all eating is we're covering sports,
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but y'all really eating on We covering those who cover
sports like nobody else, and y'all like, yeah, take me
behind that curtain. Wow, they take me behind the veil,
Take me on that field, inside that huddle, inside that helmet.
That's what we're doing. So same thing I fell in
love with just doing the show, the process of it,
and now I'm loving the results because I'm reading what
you guys are loving as well. Thank you guys for
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all the support. We are out here killing it. So
make sure whatever you're doing, whatever it is, just fall
in love, find it, make it fine, make it look good,
make it have backs, make it have face, make it
look good till you fall in love with that process
and the results will love you back. All Right, y'all
gotta do it. For More to It, check the show
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y'all know how we start off every show, Well, what's
up with that dude? Yesterday had a call because I
have new representation. Yes, I am going to be represented
in this world in a different mind, I say, and
I look forward to that. Man. It's crazy because it's
an old friend of mine that I've known for fifteen
years in the business, who actually is really cool with
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my former agent, like almost maybe in like a minute
to ship roll, I don't know, but basically my old
agent was a big dog out there, Nick Khan who
now runs the w w E. So shout out to
Ruber Khon Talent and Dave Mara Lees. Yes, that's how
you say it, Dave Mary Lee's He's just Dave to me,
But I gotta say his last name right to give
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him for credit. All right, So I'm moving on up
like the Jeffersons out here, baby, and I love what
we've been doing so far. A lot of stuff going
on in the background that's gonna be four ground for
this show. So excited about that and all the things
we're doing. It's crazy, though, talking to him because he
sounds like my former agent and what y'all don't know,
And I'm gonna tell you right now because I tell
y'all everything over time. When I was at FS one
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my first two years, I was represented by Nick Khan.
He made the move from me from ESPN to FS one.
Then he left to go run w W E great
terms we left on. We still talk. Saw him at
the movies not too long ago. Loved the dude to death.
Whitlock also left at that same time. What people didn't
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know is I didn't have an agent. Now that wasn't
because a lot of people didn't want me to be
their client. You know, I had suitors. I was a
pretty girl that was staying home every night. I was like, no,
I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. And it's crazy because
I think about it and reflect now because deeply I
didn't see my future being brighter in sports media broadcasting
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doing to what I was doing now. I saw me
still getting paid, getting paid, young on me getting paid,
but I ain't see me going higher. I saw me
as plateauing. So I was like, why do I need
somebody to represent what already have? Give me somebody you
could add to what I have, a different direction, et cetera.
And people like Matt pat McAfee as a proof of concept,
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looking at the industry as it was shifting, knowing that
the bosses were going in all sorts of different directions.
Ensemble casts, Okay, no more debate, Let's try and discuss,
but not discussed too much. Let's get high gloss, let's
get an ice skating show, all that stuff. And I
was like, man, look this is looking weird. So long
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story short, I didn't have an agent my last two years,
picking shows, a couple of guys to do some one
off some opportunities. But now I feel like I'm at home,
so excited, and it's good to see that I'm comfortable
in this home because he is actually comfortable with my
old agent. Got the world ties together all right. Other
than that, it's too many damn mosquitos in this world
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right now, at least if you live in LA. I
don't know what the hell is happening. I told you
all about it before, But yesterday I saw something I
never seen before. One two, three, four, five, five mosquitoes
on my left leg at the same damn time. I
looked down at my leg at the second five, and
I couldn't believe it, because first, you're not even supposed
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to fill a mosquito, right, you don't feel when they laying,
they got them good shocks. And then I looked down
I saw I was like, shit swattered them all. Of
course they all lived. And did you know that all
the mosquitoes that bite you are women. You had the females,
they out there trying to feed their babies. So I
was like, well, no food for y'all today, dammit. Please,
somebody in the comments tell me how to get rid
of mosquitos the best way. I don't care if it's
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a gadget, I don't care if it's some ointment, some
ain't a honey, mixing some vinegar with sunflower seeds, I
don't care what you gotta do. Just tell me how
to get rid of mosquitos. They literally got me scared
to go outside in the backyard. Right now, I ain't
lying all right now, I'm speaking of pests or how
to get rid of trolls. Let's talk about this story
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right here. It's called social deletion, but let's be real
about this. This was the Arkansas Arkansas coach Sam Pittman
who recently deleted his ex He deleted his Twitter account,
saying he was frustrated with the negative consequences that come
from fans and supporters having direct access to him, the coaches,
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and the players. I was like, ah, he said, quote
closed my Twitter account, and that's how I feel about it.
I'll be honest with you. I just got sick of it.
The only reason I had in the first place is
for recruiting. Debnit. I'm told it would do well for
the university if I bring it back. So he expressed
his concern with the Twitter account ex account because of
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the personal attacks and abuse that was directed at not
only him but his players all through social media. He
basically like, why I got this bridge open and everything
that comes across his bridge is bad for me? Close
the bridge. That's what he was thinking right there, And
he said he had to spend an ignortoning amount of
time counseling his players extensively about the psychological issues that
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come with social media. He said, I don't think it's fair.
I don't think it's right. I don't think it's right
for the kids had to spend an imenortoning amount of
time counseling some of the players over the comments and
abuse they received on social media. Now, it's interesting because
he's trying to protect the well being of his program.
He's trying to go out there and just coach football.
But what all comes with coaching football. Now, all that
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comes with doing anything that is out in the public's
eye where the public can consume it. It now has
a price, and that's the cost of fame. That's the
cost of being highly publicized, highly visible in this world today.
So they talked deeper about it. He got it to
some other issues, and the thing that I thought was
really interesting is how he said he has an issue
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how people interact on social media, and he said he
emphasized the harm that's caused by the personal attacks, some
of the bodies shaming, and how the coaches are restricted
in terms of the political, religious, and personal affiliations that
they can share on social media, but they got to
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take all of everyone else's affiliations and are expected to
endure that criticism. He said, as a coach, you can't
even have a political affiliation, you can't have a religious affiliation,
can't do anything, but you can take it. Well. I
got tired of taking it, damnit. So he concluded by saying, Hey,
I close my Twitter account because of all the negativity,
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and look, it may lead to more criticisms, so be it.
Y'all could talk about me all you won't probably won't
hear about it because I'm not connected to you guys
through X and Twitter anymore. He said, Hey, we got
an official football team account. Y'all want to talk to
the program? Talk to that damn account over there, and
the recruits can't connect with the team through that vehicle.
And he said, if I do reactivate my Twitter account,
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guess what. I may do it just because they making
me do it, but I ain't gonna engage much on
the platform. All right, here we go. Here are my
thoughts about this, the good and bad that comes with
social media, because I see the good first, like anybody like.
Come on, y'all, we always talk about the negative side
of the crack, the negative side of social media. Let's
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talk run the fact that right now I can connect
to somebody in Japan and send a group text around
the world and everybody can respond to it like that.
I grew up in the era where you couldn't even
go to the library and get the book you want it, right,
Dewey decimal system was letting us down. You got a
library like, oh, yeah, about to get that that book
from Christopher Columbus. I gotta do my book report. You
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get there is checked out. After you all went to
the library, and you're like n C seven four six
nine two eight dash three seven four point eight do
you have that book? She's like and she's scrolling on
the dem stream. She scrolled like it, No, we don't
have that book. Sorry, it's checked out. What And then
it's like, yeah, they supposed to return it three days ago,
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it's overdue. They owe us fifteen cents. Remember those days. Well,
now you could be at the red light. You be like,
damn it, I gotta do a report on Christopher Columbus.
My kid in the back, MJ in the back, I
gotta do a report on Christopher Columbusdaddy when I get home. Oh,
I don't have to wait till I get home, Daddy.
I use my eye tad christpher for Columbus, Daddy, how
you spell Christopher boy? All right? So Christopher Columbus enter? Ah,
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he already got it right there ain't checked out either, Right,
and Lizzy gets older, he all of a sudden can
broadcast that to the world. Look at my report that
I did on Christopher Columbus. Why do I pay Christopher's Columbus?
Do not ask me? That's just the first book report
I remember I had to do. So it takes me
back to the issues that come from social media, because
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what social media is really bombarding you with is this.
It's the outside world telling you something good or bad.
Because social media could flatter you too. Don't act like
it always shames you. It could flatter you. But remember,
is the outside world's thoughts of you greater than your
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belief in yourself and your thoughts of yourself? Right? So
are you somebody who is letting the world tell them
that they're greater than they are? That's how you get cocky?
Right You ever hear somebody read their own press clippings,
you ever did it yourself. I have all of a sudden,
you start believing the hype right, and then you become
something else different than your own belief of who you are.
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That balance in that. Or you could be a person
who think who you are, I'm good and bad, I'm motherly,
I got it all. You know, I'm balanced, and they
can be killing you. You could go through a firestorm
on social media and they can make you think you're
worse than you are. Just like playing sports, you win
a game, don't think you the super Bowl champions because
you want to know. At the same time, if you
on water, if you all on one, don't think you
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ain't gonna make the super Bowl, right, don't think you
can't be super Bowl champions. Always that balance in that.
It takes me back to my two rules of social media.
Never respond to negativity. Why I hate when I hear
people out there about well, you not on my level
and I'm not on your level. We'll respond I'm not
doing it. It's not a level thing. It's about I'm
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giving energy to something that I don't want. So if
I don't want it, why give it energy? Because if
I give it energy, oh I'm gonna get energy because
energy can't be cree it or destroyed, just exchange. Correct.
So I'm not giving energy to anything I don't want,
and I don't want negativity, so I don't respond to negativity.
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Even though some of those people who are being negative
are actually correct, they're accurate, or they're not on my level.
Some of them may be above my level right in
certain aspects. Who gives it Naw, I ain't ranking who
critiquing me, or it's an egg, It doesn't matter really.
So if you walk past a homeless person and they
give you some jewels and some words of wisdom, you
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ain't gonna take them jewels because you're gonna judge the messenger,
not the message. Ah, So don't give it any energy
just because it's negative, and it will give you back
negative energy. The second rule I have is this is
the tricky one. Never clarify yourself and your position. Don't
do it, because that's the slippery one. That's the one
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that's hiden behind, that's the devil in a different colored dress.
Like oh oh, marsh others said this, Tom said that,
and next thing you know, no, I ain't say that,
and then they like gout it. They liked your ass up.
All they trying to do is set the trap for you.
So never respond to negativity because you don't want negativity back,
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and to never clarify your position. I know it's coming
from me, and every time it comes from me, I'm like, whatever,
I already said what I said, because I said it,
and that's all it is. So it's funny. I've worked
with a lot of people in sports media who will
project like they are so secure, right, But I've been
there with them because they're my boys, they my homegirls,
or I've seen them on set, or I've seen them
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quiet in the corner, and you know what they doing.
Ninety eight percent of them are literally in a funk,
getting paid millions of dollars to talk about athletes and
sports in a funk with a suit on, in an
air conditioning studio, in a funk. You want to know
why they're in a funk because somebody on social media
said that I was wrong and they're killing me. Men,
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do you have kids? Focus on your kids? Do you
have pets? Focus on your petscause you act like they're
your kids. Whatever? You got a family? Like, are you serious?
Like what I mean? You don't think you're perfect. Right, okay,
so someone is acknowledging your imperfections, right, okay, So what's
the problem. Like somebody call me Marselves, I'm like, yeah,
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that's my name. If somebody says you're not perfect, I'm saying, yeah,
you're right. Like, what are we doing here? We're not
gonna battle right now. I understand. Sometimes somebody gets you
no matter who you are, you knowing of us are perfect,
somebody really get at you and you're like, yo, what
should I do? I'm just telling you, man, that's part
of the price of sticking yourself out there. And if
you're a celebrity, that's the price of fame, and it's
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a muscle that needs to be developed. All of us
have to develop that muscle. In today's times. The muscle
you must develop is how to deal with public criticism,
and we all have to deal with it. If we
are on a public platform, you have three followers, you
gotta deal with some of the criticism where it comes
from those three followers. Right. You ain't gonna say everything
perfect to three people, let alone three million, let alone
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thirty million, as some of these people have and following.
So just remember that, right, because I'm reminding my wife
right now through this process because her social media, her
pr her level of fame is picking up by the second.
She's getting more and more recognized right now. Matter of fact,
she was so excited yesterday she got her first invitation
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exclusively to a huge event, foundation event, red carpet event, etc.
And I'm trying to be the husband that is excited
every single time that something amazing happens to my wife.
But that is like my ninety thousandth invitation, but it's
her first. So now she's developing that muscle, right, And
that's a positive thing. Develop that muscle. Right. As you
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break down anything, it gets built up stronger. But what
comes with all this love she's about to get. Oh
look at it, Marie here, Look at them, Maria there,
look at the Maria. There is somebody like, yeah, look
at Anna, Marie you right know right. So I'm trying
to help her, but I can't lift them weights for her.
She's gonna have to go through that process like we
all have. So what do you guys think in terms
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of the strategies that can be employed to strike that
balance on social media? I hate when people say I
cut it off I'm like dog, you can't cut off
the world, you know, like, embrace the world, know what
the world is, and then you be fine with it.
If you know who you are, you know what the
world is, you know what battle you're in. So I
hate when people be like, yeah, I'm tired of they
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talking about me. I'm tired of them talking about me,
And I'm like them, they they is us. You ever
catch somebody talking about they like what I'm talking about?
You about all of us? We part of the problem. Brother,
Do not act like you bigger than dial right, So
let's just get into this situation the proper way, and
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it's interesting. Mental health obviously have been a big conversation
of brown social media. So look, if you a person
just can't take somebody talking bad about you, I ain't
talking to you, and I hope I don't know anybody
like that, and I hope no one is actually like that,
but hey, to each his own. Delete your account then,
But if you have an account, just know what you're
engaging in. Something that is gonna highlight the good in you,
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and sometimes it's gonna stress the bad in you. I
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iddy bidies. All right, let's talk about Joe who says
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that Zach Wilson, you ain't making an impact, damnit. Trying
to get your butt up out of here. So we
saw the Jets lose to the Patriots and they lost
fifteen to ten. I saw somewhere where the pictures and
beat them what like thirteen times in a row. That
can't be real. God, Lee, Lord, you talking about having
your number. So he got interviewed Joe Namath on the
Yes Network and he said, Nope, I didn't take anything
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positive out of it. Yesterday, talking about Zach William Wilson's performance,
he said he was really disappointing what he saw on
the field. Now, obviously he played the position before, so
his words do have weight. And then his name is
Joe Namath, he did wear a fur. He still is
representing the Jets. What fifty sixty seventy years later, it
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seemed like. So when he says something, let's say it
breaks the concrete. Where's that from? So Joe Namath kept
going in on your boy, Zach Wilson, and he said
it was quote unquote disgusting when he saw Zack Wilson
specifically on one play take a sack instead of like
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squirming out of it, trying to fight for more yardists
fight to look down the field to hit the receiver.
We all know what he was talking about in those moments.
So it's out of frustration express and he said, he said,
Zach Wilson need to go to Kansas City and sit
on the bench behind my homes and learn from a
great quarterback. Got dang no filter. But you know, when
you have you Joe Namas age, they always say, when
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you have lived longer, then you will live going forward.
Whatever that number is, you don't give a damn. And
let's just say right now Joe Ninnis. He does not
give a damn oh man. He said, you sit down. Quote,
you sit down on the play, You go right down.
What happened? Thought you were trying to win and make plays?
You quit on the play. What is going on is disgusting.
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So all that criticism adds up to the words and
the wait of an all time great coming down on
the present day quarterback. All right, let me give him
some positive. As he did say about it, he said
they had quick feed. He could throw a little bit.
Old people just make cracks for your Old people always
got a little stinging even their compliments. Oh that's that's cute, baby.
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I hope you ain't going outside looking like you look,
what the what you're talking about? Grandma? So there. Old
people always just got to let you know, Hey, I
don't live too long. Filter off when you're young, when
you're a kid like my kids. No filter when you're old,
no filter. Everything in between is just BS, cocktail party
PC talk. Oh inclusion like y'all lying. You know you
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check their group text for inclusion if you want to
talk like that. So here we go. The weight of
the words when they come from a Hall of Famer,
when they come from a great when they come from
someone like a Joe Namath. You know what it is.
And it's funny because the old timers are always hovering
because you represent them when they can't play anymore. The
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brand that they have is now being charged by how
you play. Think about this, and I know you're like,
what whatever school you went to, Let's say you went
to Notre Dame and then you want to know the
Dame and you were damn good, and then you want
to know the Dame. Y'all were damn good, and then
you leave Notre Dame and you hanging out and you
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the damn good guy from a whole Notre Dame, but
now know the Dames. Sorry. You see how that affects you.
You see how you got to go through these unnecessary
but necessary conversations of what happened and oh man, thought
you guys were amazing when you were there, and then
they pump you up. But there's not the fulfillment that
comes from y'all still doing what you started. What you did,
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and that's how we all connected. That's how all these
schools get these big endowments. That's how they get us
all to continue to pledge and continue to give back
to our schools because we want to make sure that
we keep the reputation high. So therefore what you did
is actually being properly represented. I went to Columbia. It
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was a top five school in the world. If it
falls out of the top twenty, then people don't look
at me like I went to a top five school
in the world, but I did. But now they ain't
top twenty. Then what they gonna look at me like?
They're gonna be like I thought you were smart. Your
school ain't that smart? Noo. See how it goes. So
it does matter that Joe name if to make sure
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that the Jets still are the Jets, because when I
was with the Jets, we out there getting it. I
predicted a championship and damnit we did it. Now don't
look at the Jets. What the hell is this now?
Obviously these comments wouldn't land if Aaron Rodgers were the
quarterback because they would be doing better. Let's be real,
and then Joe Nama could sit back and just say, hey,
let me fan the flames the greatness of Aaron Rodgers
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and what his impact is. But he ain't there, so
now he gonna have to make sure everyone knows these
are not the Jets that we want, and especially Zach
Wilson is not the quarterback that we need. So how
is Zach feeling right now? Everyone always talk about New
York media, and I played in New York but not
at the professional level. But still it's New York media.
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I know it very well. This is how Zach is feeling.
Zach has forgotten that he is playing a game of inches.
Football is a game of inches. Why is that important
right now for Zach Wilson to hear and know? Because
Zach Wilson has to remind himself that playing that game
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of inches means that you're closer than you actually think.
Let me say it again, it's a game of inches.
You lose these games, unless it's Denver in Miami, than
it's a game of yards. But everything else is a
game of inches. You know, you're that close from being
the winner or being the loser, from playing well to
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not playing well, to making that play to not making
that play. I tell you what Barry Sanders told me.
He said, the difference between a six yard loss tackle
for loss and a sixty yard touchdown. Go Barry is
six inches. And think about it. I mean time you've
seen a guy go like this, Oh he missed touchdown?
Or are those catches now that everybody? The cornerback's hand
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is right here and he catches touchdown inches. Zack Wilson,
you way closer than you think, because objects in the
mirror are closer than they appear. If you look in
your rear view mirror, you look in your side view mirrors.
You see the Zach Wilson who was bawling at BYU.
Remember him? You see the Zach Wilson who walking around
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campus saying, yeah, I'm the man. And then you going
to BYU and you tah, I hope you was like, yeah,
and these are my women. If I went to BYU,
I'd be like, coach, is it true? He'd be like,
what's true? I'd be like you stop playing. You can't
recruit me. No, all the way, like I ain't going
to be yuunless I mean it's good right. We all
kicking it right, all of them. So anyway, Zack Wilson
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got he has to remind himself he's that close though.
I remember when I was playing great, and when I
was isn't playing great? And literally I was playing okay,
good bad, okay, and then it's just like, how can
it go like this? Everyone always says that the light
goes on, right, the game slows down. Click. You know why,
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because you're that close. If it went clicking, you weren't
nowhere around you, wouln't even hear the click. You wouldn't
even see the click. It would be no clicking. It's
just be like, what what you're talking about? So Zach,
I just laugh every time I see somebody's the man,
the senior on campus with the letterman jacket, and oh yeah,
I'm in high school, I'm the man. And then go
to college freshman year. Uhuh, how do you play football again?
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I'm like, dog, relax, you're that close. Just put the
work in, man, and believe in yourself greater than all
those outsiders and how they're trying to project on you.
Right now it's not going well, don't get it twisted.
You suck right now. I mean your performance sucks. It's
that you don't suck it. What you putting out there whack.
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But it's that close game of inches. Trust me, I
know you don't because in this situation, the game me,
people who have seen you play believe in you you're
coach Robert Sola. Even though he lying a little bit,
but he doing his job. He believes in you. But
all of us can be overruled by one person, Zach Wilson.
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Don't overrule us in this situation. Now, let's talk about
coach Lyon because that does hurt the team because you
know why in this situation, we know he's lying because
Zach Wilson has messed up before, not started for this
team before. And we've had chance of other quarterbacks before,
and we went out and got Aaron Rodgers, gave him
(26:39):
a king's ransom, and we said our fortunes in future
is in Aaron Rodgers hand, and Zach Wilson, you sit
back and learn. And now Zach Wilson has to start
when we done already cast you away? Oops. Oops, what
do they say? Don't give up for show to get
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more because your end up with no. And that's what happened.
They gave up a for show and they for show
was gonna lose with Zach Wilson, but they gave it
up to get more because they wanted more wins out
of Aaron Rodgers. And now they got no quarterback out
of Aaron Rodgers or Zach Wilson crazy how the game goes.
But remember this man, don't let even a Joe name it.
From the weight that he carries and his name and
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what he's saying make you forget how close you can
be to where you want to go game of inches,
and it's that close for Zack Wilson. So what do
y'all think about Zach Wilson right now? You think it's
the future of him or he done? I don't think
he toasted yet. I just don't. I think he does
need some mental makeup changes. I think he needs to
stop giggling on the sidelines. I think he needs to
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express himself a little more. Fake it till you make
it. It's okay to have a persona big dog. You don't
have to always show your true colors. Show some fake colors,
you know what I mean. That's how a lot of
animals survive in the wild. Camouflage, chameleon, fake colors. Whatever
you gotta do to get yourself to where you gotta go.
So y'all think he's done or y'all think he got
a little life left. And what do you think the
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fortunes of the Jets are there're fifty two guys in
that locker room like, oh God, hate this. And there's
one Zach Wilson. Will he revive himself and helped the
Jets survive this season? Yelloway, oh man. I've always been
called a nerd, always been called corny. So if you
call me that, you gotta get in line, because I've
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Sports media. My man Pat McAfee. His show looks amazing.
(29:08):
I love how they had the disclaimer in the beginning too.
They're like, look, basically, we're gonna cuss and we just
having fun. Up here, y'all tripping, don't sue us. I
like that, man, It's so good to see, all right.
So they had a recent episode on the show where
the producer Todd Schmidt interviewed Notre Dame's former head coach
Lou Holst. Salute first of all, whoo Lou hosts. So
(29:29):
Bobby Bouten first, let me just go at it. I
don't care they say comparison is the thief of joy.
Well let's steal some joy, dammit. Because I grew up
on two coaches in the eighties. I have my coaches
out there, coach Melvin Smith, senior coach Blue rest in Peace,
had all my coaches, but demit. When I looked at TV,
I don't even know like the NFL coaches like that.
(29:50):
I heard of, you know, Tom Landry and stuff, but
I wasn't watching them like that. I was watching Lou
Holst just sit there. I swear Lou hostess to be
sitting there with that hat on you but just looking
like this, and didn't Bob bout it looked like he
always chilling, like he always just he always ordered lemonade.
He just always like, yeah, I take a three piece.
Oh go run that testdown, like he just looked chill
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and oh that th that used to give me hypes.
So when I saw Lou Holst was in this story,
obviously he got my energy up. Well, he was getting
impersonated by the producer Tye and he was doing an
interview with Lou Holts as impersonating Lou Hoats. So he
talking to himself in character, right, So he fully in character,
(30:32):
He got the costume, he got the prosthetic face, everything,
full character, all right. So during the segment, this is
what happened. The real Lou Hosts criticized Ohio State in particular,
saying under coach Ryan Day that the team looks softer
and that's led to some of their losses, right, and
he predicted Notre Dame was gonna win because of that assessment. Duh.
(30:57):
First of all, that's one of those rivalry rooting kind
of statements, like the rhetoric. Let me say that rivalry
rooting rhetoric, right, He ain't really reping, he just like,
how do I get to saying, no, the dyin't gonna win. Oh,
they look soft? Right, So that's how that went. Now,
Remember the real Lou host is saying this to the
fake Lou Holts and it gets around town. Let's just
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say that. So here's a quote from it addressing this
after coach Ryan Day caught wind of it, and after
of course they win last second victory over No the Dame.
He said, I like to know where Lou Holts is
right now, what he said about our team, what he
said about our team. I cannot believe these coaches. First
(31:40):
of all, like yesterday, Dan Lanning stopped talking about hearing
know the cameras were there. Ye. It ain't a place
you go in this world right now where there's not
gonna be a camera, or you already know there's a
camera there and you hoping that it's there so you
can get caught for your recruiting purposes. So obviously coach
Day know that the this was gonna get back, right
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He said, h I texted everybody I know from Ohio State. Uh,
this is what they were saying on the show. I
was like, I fucking love Ryan Day. I love the
fact that he was like, I was hitting old man.
I do not care what this guy said is out
of pocket. And now we got the back and forth.
You got McAfee just chimed in, loving the fact that
(32:22):
Ryan Day was like, Lou Hoats, I don't give a
damn you said something about my team, something about my bars.
We're about to go to war. And then Pat McAfee
going in tied like dog, I'm just faking Lou Hoax
and lou Holst is over there, like what's going on?
One thing about Lou Holst and I've worked with him
a few times. I could see why. He was a
hell of a coach and hell of a recruiter and man,
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it's smart, wise but gentle like kind of like like
like I hate to say, this is gonna sound like
a Yoda, like you know, he was like, what you
feel wiser around that sucker? Man, I love that dude. Right,
So then all this was kind of like a little
bit of a joke, a little bit of serious and
you didn't you know where to go with this? Right,
So then lou Holas also joked about having dementia and
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not fully understanding what he was saying during the interview
in the first place. What do we make of all
of this? He questioned whether Day was aware that lou
Holts was actually talking to a fake Lou Hoax because
Ryan Day came in a little hot one hundred came
in a little hotter than you think he should have
when he should have seen or known. The context of
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this was like, dog, come on, it's Lou Holts rooting
for Notre Dame talking to a fake Lou Hoax. Maybe
it's not that serious, that deep, Okay. So then they
all kind of buttoned it up by saying, Hey, look
us being in the middle of the whole thing is
so dumb. I was laughing until I thought I was
going to pass out on Saturday Day night. That's what
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happened on the Pat McAfee show. Kind of antics Day
up too over there. And it's crazy because sometimes you
get lost in not knowing the scenario the situation, like
Ryan Day probably did, and you just read it and
you just hear about it. He said, what are you say?
What I say? What? Oh? This is my moment. I
can step up with Lou Holts and say something bad
about not to Day and get some of them recruits.
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Come over, Oldhillo, state I don't know why I got
that Ryan Day voice, and keep it going. So all
of that can work right now. It was taught from
a rivalry tongue. It was coming from a place of life.
But he did say something I want to talk through.
How does the entire team get labeled soft? How do
you call somebody in combat sports and contact sports soft? Now,
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let's be real. There are times when you don't want
to hit somebody for various reasons. You can have. I
had a separated ac joint in my shoulder. That man
that hurt. I didn't want to go and pound people. Now.
I couldn't run away from contact because you know, on
the football field, you don't go one hundred percent or
you one hundred percent guaranteed to get your ass hurt
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again and again. So there were times I didn't want
to hit because of injury. Was there ever a time
I didn't want to hit? Was there ever a time
I was soft just because the game? Yeah, I'll give
you a moment. I had to go against Jamie Nails
one time in practice. Jamie Nail's weigh four hundred and
nineteen pounds at one time. And I remember telling you, guys,
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and I keep reiterating that it's one thing to go
against a great player when they're on another team. Sixty
seventy reps for we playing once a season. Maybe we
don't play them at all. Maybe we gotta play them
twice because they're in our division whatever, one hundred and
twenty reps max. When they're your teammate, let me just
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tell you what happens. You ain't gotta see a Wednesday Thursday,
Friday loop around, Gotta see him next Wednesday Thursday. You're like, God,
I had to hear Jamie Nils four nineteen pounds one
time we had to do Oklahoma drill, sir, And I'm
looking up and I'm like, I'm looking at it, like, coach,
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this is a rhino. This is a moose. This is
not this is not a mammo like me. This is
a different animal. And I'm not lying. He knocked my
helmet in directions in it. I ain't supposed to go
ear pads on nose, you know, right here, the forehead
pad on the chin. And I was like and I
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blacked out. See, I played in the era where we
didn't get concussions. We never said concussion. I don't think
I ever heard of play. I'm not lying concussion. I
heard of people getting knocked out, which was a concussion,
but concussed. Like Jimmy Garoppolo, he's in concussion protocol like that,
what play what we ain't even take what tent ain't
no medical tent food. We better go out there playing.
(36:35):
So when it happened to me and you know, Oklahoma drill,
you gotta go twice bow, I'm like wow. And then
right then I didn't want to hit him again. I
ain't lying. I swear to y'all. Wanted to quit football. Now.
There have been times I thought about my football mortality,
and I thought about quitting football when I was younger,
but I was like that moment. I was like, I
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would do anything for a lifeline, get me out of
this next rep, because you gotta go twice coach. All
all right, Everybody like, ooh, I see you, Wiley, not
like in a good way, like I ain't dead yet,
I see you, Whyley, You're still alive. Nails ooh, nails
walking like this boo getting dinged up again, And I
remember putting my hand down and have to look up again,
and it was like I went from black to just
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nails again. Who was just eating up the whole visual
screen again? And then you hear that whistle again, and
I swear I don't even know what happened. I don't
know what happened, but then you move on with the
rest of practice. Uh soft. I've always took exception to
soft when you're talking about combat, contact sport us, because
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I ain't nothing soft about it. Even even the guys
who don't want to hit, like Dion Sanders, they say,
never want to hit, ain't nothing soft about him though.
He just don't want to hit somebody. And that ain't
the only way you measure someone soft, right Sometimes soft is, hey,
there's some adversity in front of you. Hey, we down,
we down five right now? When the ball one twenty
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two to go? Are you soft? You thought the game
was over? Are you soft? You don't want to believe
and drive us down here? Are you soft? You ain't
gonna run through the next wall? Are you soft? You
know what I mean? Like soft is mental too. It
ain't just physical express only physically. So I've seen some
guys who in crunch moments, critical moments, freeze up, you know,
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not like don't want that challenge, avoid that, And I
see it with my little kids right now. Some kids
just don't want to go through the smoke. They just don't.
So I ain't take exception to her, But I just
wanted to talk a little deeper through what soft looks
like and what is it mean? And what do y'all
think of Pat McAfee's show so far. I think it's
doing amazing. Everything I see about it. I love. I
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love the fact that I love the intros. I love
the fact that he's still at the crib. I love
all what I see And should head coach Ryan Day
should have took this a little lighter, right man? Maybe
he did take it lighter, but he was like this
a moment. I'm a rock. If Dan Landing getting props,
I'm about to get mine too, right. So, and do
y'all agree with what lujol said about Ohio State? Do
you think a team could be soft? I do. I
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know what you're saying, But show me how. Don't just
say yeah, y'all sawt Why explain yourself? Well? Today I
feel like I was rolling blade. I'm sorry. All right,
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Tyreek Hill Michael Parson's got a little playful, playful back
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and forth right now using their platforms. They're both on
their podcast talking trash about each other. Man. It's pretty
fun to see. Basically, Tyreek Hill is saying that he's
a lion, not just a cheetah anymore, and Michael Parsons
is saying, look, bro, I love you, big dog, but
guess what you are. You may be a baby lion
a cup, but you are not a big lion yet.
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So Parsons said, listen, Tyrek, if you come over my
way and I see you coming my way, I'm sending
you to the tent. I'm sending you to the sidelines.
You're gonna say, hey, coach, I don't want nothing to
do with Michael Parsons. You don't want to do that.
I already said it once, I said it on social media.
My baby girl's getting cheetah print for Christmas. She's getting
a cheetah print. Come over here to my side of
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my baby. Girl's getting cheatah print. All right. So that's
what's funny about this. Now they went back and forth.
They having fun with it. You know, Miami is out
there eating balling out of control. I saw that Week
one when they came to play the Chargers. They just
got a tremendous, tremendous team speed. The skilled position players
are outstanding to a is to people forget. And this
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is why I was always on the tour train. He
was the most efficient college quarterback in history. Think he's
gonna be all right in the NFL. Let's just say that,
all right, so we know all that goes. What I
want to talk about is how play play. All this
fun and games turns real once you cross the white lines,
once you are on the field. That switch that athletes
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have the ability to compartmentalize with that switch because it's
really a psycho switch. It's really crazy to see. Okay,
because I played with guys who have that switch. Nice guys.
I tell my Chris Bilman. If you don't know Chris
Bilman is google him about that life Gladiator right now
during the work week, Chris Bilman is a nice guy,
(41:44):
just walks around. Went to Ohio State. Guess he's soft
lou hoas, No, he ain't. So he walked around like this.
I seen him a few times out with the double
decker stroller song with the family and stuff. Pro used
to wear pro wings, like just a normal like a
dad like all in dad, like hey Chris. He's like, Hi,
how are you? Nice guy? Good dude. And then Sunday
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would come around. He's the first one that I experienced.
I was like, oh, like, I gotta go to that place,
to go out there on that field and do what
I need to do, okay, because I thought I was
already going to a good place, but he went to
a special place. So I'm looking at him like he
all of a sudden came in the locker room and
he's doing this. He's like terminator and I'm not lying,
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not blinking and not breaking stare with nobody, just walking
and I'm like, so, you know you read the cues.
You're looking around like all right, I don't mess with him,
I guess right. Then you see him playing, You're like, yeah,
I know why. But then you watch him he's not
breaking stare. You're getting out of his way, and then
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he had two smelling salts jammed up each nostril and
was walking around with him activated like this. I was like, damn,
I ain't gonna lie. So I'm glad he's my team.
He hit me all and then you saw how he played.
He was like, goodness. Now I juxtaposed that him and
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a John Henderson. Remember Big John Henderson played for the
Jacksonville Jaguars. So psycho, so cycho, let go, just spitting yelling,
walking up to the training staff. Slap me in my face?
What slap me again? Look at me. I'm faking to
slap and I ain't even hit myself. He's like, yeah,
don look, I mean I was like, I gotta go
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there to go on that field. Now this is like
my nine tenth year lead, so I already know like
I ain't got to do all that. But there's a switch.
You juxtaposed that. Contrast that with these guys like a
Ted Washington. Ted Washington, no game baby, sitting there on
his chair just looking around. He just be looking at people.
He'd be like, I know you ain't gonna do nothing.
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Just you. I got like old Grandma, Look I know
you ain't gonna do nothing today. Look at you, boy,
Look at you? Boy? Is that a limp? You already?
You're already tight you already. Boy. You had a bad
practice last week. I know you ain't about to show it.
You just got jokes. You're like damn ted ted go
out there. Wah wah wah wah. Put them hands, them
palls on people, lock it down, Junior say out he
(44:21):
in the pregame, buddy, what's up? Guys? What's a great
day to be alive? Ain't? Oh my god, what would
you rather do than do this right now? I love you, man,
You're gonna be good, Like Junior's just this is you
got a stand up show at one o'clock kick off,
just kicking it and then go out there sideline, sideline, sideline, sideline,
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crazy right, But there's a switch, and that switch is
how Michael Parsons, how Tyreek Hill are gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, and then for roastious out there, Lions, cubs, cheetahs,
whatever you want to call it, they're gonna get it in.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So I just love when you see the meat and
potatoes storylines, get some of the flavor. These guys going
back and forth woofing at each other, talking that trash.
Who ain't gonna watch Oregon next time they play Colorado?
Just for more than anything, I want to see what
coach is gonna do now, Prime, what's your response to
that landing? You got the same kind of you got
(45:23):
the same energy. Oregon, y'all gonna back that up. Colorado,
y'all gonna step it up. That's what I love about
sports man. You always got a chance to respond as
long as you do it the right way. So I
love when real play play turns to real, real real
on the football field. Tell me how you think this
helps in terms of the context of a game and
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gets you invested and interested in it. It's all playful
until somebody really gets hurt, or somebody really gets on
that field to realize these hits really hurt and better
player Michael Parsons or Tyreek Hill. Who's the real lion
out of those two? And who's the cub in that conversation?
All right, y'all, it's trying to fuck us from comics,
(46:05):
fuckus from commas. Share t O and Shannon, let's talk
to it. I'm on Steven A. Smith's side on this.
I didn't like how he went at Max as unentertaining
as Max was. I try watching the shows, I think
to keep answering why you let him go needs to end,
especially if you and him don't rock with each other.
But to needed to mind his business because he know
he and that man no longer rock with each other. Also,
I get it, uh, I'm riding with Steven A. Smith.
(46:30):
When you go as a black man added black man,
that's what he meant, that a white man is blacker
than that black man. As a black man. You call
Stephen A Smith a sambo on National TV. You got
all these people riding with you. But Steven A. Smith
is a journalist. His business is gossip. T O ain't
winning this, okay, Stephen A. Smith deserves all the smoke
coming this way. It was totally uncalled for the dog
Max like that just to show off his power at ESPN.
(46:53):
Shannon better not outshine him or he's gonna catch some
of that secondhand smoke. Yeah. The thing about it is
Stephen A. Smith. I do not dislike stephen A. Smith.
I look forward to seeing stephen A. Smith again whenever
that may be. I have no issue with him. What
I have an issue with is when someone does the
wrong thing, and I don't care who you are. I
was raised that way. My daddy didn't give a damn.
(47:14):
When I came home, I said, Daddy, Daddy, they messing
with me. He said, what you do first thing? He
ain't asked, but they did either. What you do? Now
tell him and he was like, what you really do
because you know that wasn't the full story. Then I
tell him the full story and he like, you did
this wrong, that made them do that, and then they
did that wrong, and then you need to respond like this.
But my daddy never ever was lenient with me when
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he knew I was in the wrong. I ain't gonna
do the same. That's how I was raised. Look, you
could do better than that, Steven A. Smith. Leave Max alone. Bro,
you ain't gonna ever you You will never clarify that
properly because clarifying it properly means telling the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and that ain't
gonna make you look good. So leave it alone. We
get it. You lied about it, you did them wrong,
(47:57):
whatever you want to call it. It's all good now.
You and too, that's minor, that's I mean, it's major
to t because ESPN has been dogging them for years.
So I know why you're mad, But hey, both of
y'all took it out on somebody else. Lead that alone,
Oregon coach Travis Hunter wouldn't have made a difference. Oregon
could have actually scored more. It's different playing trash teams
like Colorado State University against playing the league talent like Oregon.
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It would have made a difference because psychologically he would
have inspired them to do more. I don't know if
the score is different, but the guys may have played better.
You can play better and still not score more. Sometimes,
you know, like you could have a win and to
be an ugly win, right, and you could have a
pretty loss and you also could just feel better about Okay,
we didn't do this and that. I mean, look, it
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goes all ways. So you try and tell me Travis
Hunter on the field does nothing to them. That's ignorant.
We know that that ain't true. Maybe the score is
not closer, but at the same time, it doesn't mean
that the guys weren't gonna go out there and play better.
I've been in games before when we scored but we
ain't moved a ball but we just scored big plays
or took advantage of the mistake. But that wasn't making
us feel the best because we're like everything we call
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wasn't working. Just one or two plays here and there,
you know the game. Um, let's go here. The coach
for Oregon is great. He deserves all the props in
the world. Tired at Prime and his spoiled sons. Oh
we doing that, spoiled sons. Oh, the boys work. Stop
letting Instagram fool you. Stop letting well Off Media and
his production company fool you. The boys work. Everybody, no
(49:28):
one is good at anything without working. Can y'all stop that?
Remember y'all did that to Dwight Howard. He just rolls
out the bed. He's seven feet and he got muscles.
Don't work out. See how many muscles you got? Right?
Think about it? Stop shanning his skip. Stephen A. Smith
didn't treat Max Killerman any better. In my opinion, he
was always kind of sending towards Max. Here we go. Honestly,
(49:51):
even though I think Skip was out of pocket, I
don't believe he really thought he was disrespecting Shannon on
any other He did exchange his skip. Just is who
he is. He's always been a guy that takes shots,
low blows when he gets fired up and over emotional.
But I don't think he really lost respect for him.
Could be wrong, truth be told. I think it was
the other way around after some of their heated exchanges.
But where Skip might have thought everything was fine, Shannon
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wasn't going for it. Yeah, look Skip, Skip fights barely
with the gloves on, like all right, if he's gonna
fight you, the gloves are on, but they're not tied,
they're not laced, and they're easy to slip off and
why and he expects you to do the same, except
(50:33):
he can't take it the same. He expects you to fight,
but it hurts him. You know why, because I've seen
when Shannon did fight back Skip, all of a sudden
changes the conversation. So the way Skip fights is emotionally.
So people who are emotional they don't fight physically the same.
They stop doing this and then they start being passive aggressive,
or they start bringing up other stuff, or they start
(50:55):
talking about different things to try and get at you
right and you're like, what we're about to where you going?
And that's how Skip fights. So UFC Dana white. If
it's a contact sport like UFC or football, I care
quite a bit about transgenders competing. If it's non contact
sport like swimming, track and field or whatever, I could
not care less. I care all the time the same amount,
(51:17):
just because I just know that men versus women in
sports is not a fair fight at the highest levels.
It's not, you know, man to women. I got boys,
I got I got a boy, I got a girls.
Stop it. I'm a man. I play stop it. So
I like to protect women. I like to protect men.
You simple as that. And then you hear about some
(51:39):
of these hits, some transgenders playing tackle football hurt, putting
it in work, putting it, putting it work. All right?
You know how we finished every show, We finishing with
a why league is them? Yeah? Fall in love with
the process and the results will love you back. Yes,
fall in love with the process and the results will
love you back. That's how the game goes, you know,
(52:02):
not just go through the process, go through the motions.
Fall in love with it, because you're gonna start to
find the subtleties. You're gonna find the little knioks and crannies.
You need to really do the job to another level,
and then you're gonna love work. If you'll love working well,
you're gonna outwork everybody. Right. And that's why I'm trying
to condition my kids to doing right now. Stop complaining,
(52:24):
don't mope, don't make it hard on yourself. Enjoy what
you're doing, because you're gonna do it anyway, might as
well have fun doing it. Find the fun in it.
And there's always I say to them, because when we
go out in public, then all of a sudden, they like,
you know, kids don't understand those dynamics. They're used to
controlled environments. Think about it at home, at a playdate,
at a party, right, all still controlled, even though it
(52:45):
may be chaos within it at school, etc. Right when
you take them out in this round, you take them
to a game or something, they're like, oh god, we
oh what are we doing? Oh? Why is it takes
so long? Why are so many people here? Why is
it so long? A lying to get some I'm like
one word, I always say, one word. What's the word? Patience?
The process teaches you you have to have patience. You're improving,
(53:08):
taking a step forward, a step back, two steps forward,
one step back, two steps forward, three steps back patience,
but still go through the process and love it. Love
that patient process that you're enduring. Once you do that,
guess what's gonna happen. And I don't know when it's
gonna happen. It happens faster for some, it happens in
a long time. For some. Let's be real, sometimes it
doesn't happen. You gotta shift gears, you gotta shift lanes,
(53:32):
But the results gonna love you back because even if
you gotta shift lanes, you're gonna go somewhere where you belong.
You're gonna go somewhere where you need to go. If
you said I'm gonna open up a business and guess what,
ah man, I'm about to sell me some gadgets, and
next thing you know, the business of selling gadgets doesn't work.
But your network, your inner software, what you did to
(53:52):
all of a sudden coalesced and to make sure you
designated all the systems, that's what worked. People want to
buy that from you, and we don't want your gadget,
But damn how you service that, how you got that distributed,
how you got that out there. It's sitting buying that.
Then you can really sing it. Same thing with this show,
Never Shut Up. I started off saying, I just want
to tell the truth about everything, learn and une learn,
(54:13):
and I might have a variety of topics. I know
some topics ain't gonna go viral. I ain't stupid. Some
topics people will be like, all right, that was a
good story, but I are you know, and I know
certain topics will. And it's funny because you guys are
the marketplace. So I give you the buffet, and I
see what y'all eating. What y'all eating is we're covering sports,
(54:34):
but y'all really eating on We covering those who cover
sports like nobody else, and y'all like, yeah, take me
behind that curtain. Wow, they take me behind the veil,
Take me on that field, inside that huddle, inside that helmet.
That's what we're doing. So same thing I fell in
love with just doing the show, the process of it,
and now I'm loving the results because I'm reading what
you guys are loving as well. Thank you guys for
(54:57):
all the support. We are out here killing it. So
make sure whatever you're doing, whatever it is, just fall
in love, find it, make it fine, make it look good,
make it have backs, make it have face, make it
look good till you fall in love with that process
and the results will love you back. All Right, y'all
gotta do it. For More to It, check the show
(55:19):
notes for all the information on our topics today today.
Want to keep the conversation going, Let's talk. Find me
on all socials at Marcel's Wiley. More Too is a
production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and workhouse Media.
Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcell's Whilely, Paul Anderson,
and Nick Ponella. Thanks for all the love, ratings, and
subscriptions and reviews membership to while He's World on YouTube.
(55:41):
Keep it coming because there's more coming from More to It.
Talk to y'all, Hellison
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