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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to be talking about a Yankee player's teen son
who mysteriously died on vacation in Costa Rica, a babysitter
who was checking under the bed for monsters only to
come across something far more scary, a person who died
from rabies after receiving a transplant, and a sixty six
(00:43):
year old who just gave birth. We have all that
and more on today's episode. So let's get started with
this Yankee player's son. Yeah, So former Yankees player Brett Gardner,
he was on vacation with his family in Costa Rica.
So they're saying that they went out to dinner at
this restaurant near the resort, and when they got back,
a couple people in the family got sick. So the
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resort then sent out a medical team with a licensed
doctor over to treat them, and in the middle of
the night, their fourteen year old son ended up dying.
So did they ever say what the medical team had
said that night when they saw all of these people.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So I first saw it being reported as food poisoning,
and an official had said it was due to asphyxiation
from food intoxication, but now that doesn't seem to.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Be the case. So there's a couple different things that
you could think about, especially when people say they ate
and then they got sick afterwards. The person that died especially,
so I think it's pretty safe that we could rule
out something like anaphylaxis, which would be something you would
think about if a person had a peanut allergy and
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was exposed to something they shouldn't be exposed to. Not
that it's one hundred percent not possible, but when you're
talking about multiple people being sick from eating the same
type of food, then you think more of Okay, it's
some kind of bacteria that was present in the food
that all of these people ate, which caused them all
to get sick shortly after they ate a meal. So
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when you're thinking about that, there's talk that there was
a lot of vomiting going on between the other people
as well as this boy, and in fact whoever came
and took care of him, I guess in the middle
of the night or whenever they decided to call emergency
services to come. They had said they were saying it
was a nearby urgent care that had treated him. I
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don't know how things work in Costa Rica, but essentially
they showed up and they had to do CPR on
the kid because he was unresponsive, and they said that
he was basically clinically dead when they arrived. They said
that there was indication of vomiting president when they got
to the hotel room, and it was in his bed actually,
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but they couldn't confirm that it is from him. So
I guess initially with that presentation, people would assume that
possibly he asphyxiated, which would mean that he vomited and
then he inhaled it again and it got caught in
his lungs and caused him to die that way by
a lack of oxygen. But I guess when they did
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the autopsy they didn't see any evidence of that, at
least grossly or by looking at it with the human eye.
Now they still do need to look at the lungs
under the microscope in order to determine that that wasn't
the case, but usually if somebody dies from that, there's
going to be evidence of it right away. So now
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so they basically ruled out asphyxia because of the vomit.
They ruled out anaphylaxis probably for the most part, because
again that's something that you could see at autopsy. You
could see swelling in the throat definitely, that would be
something you could see as well. So they probably ruled
out those two things. So now they're just trying to see,
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I guess what kind of infection these people had, because
you have to think it's there is a rare chance
that it could be from something else too. When you
just think about a whole bunch of people that are
eating food at the same time, it gets sick pretty
soon afterwards, you think of it could be like chemicals
in the food, like actual poison, or it could be
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a bacteria. So that's what people like epidemiologists do, is
they try to find the source of like where this
all happens. So they're going to interview all the people
that were there and find out what they ate, and
then they're going to go to the restaurant and see
what they ate and see what they all ate the
same of and try to determine if it was from there.
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The thing is is sometimes when you get a bacterial
infection from food, it might not present for days actually,
so even though they all started getting sick around the
same time after they ate that one meal, doesn't necessar
mean it's from that meal, depending on what the bacteria is.
Now the good news is is that they could test
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his poop and then test his blood and everything at
autopsy as well as the people that are still alive
that might still have the infection, and they they can
determine what the bacteria is. And each bacteria acts differently,
so some will infect people within thirty minutes, others will
be forty eight hours, and then they'll be able to
really track back to what restaurant they were eating at
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at that particular time. Another thing to take into consideration
when people are on trips like this in somewhere like
Costa Rica, when I know I've never been there, I
really want to go there, but I always see that
people are in these you know, in the water all
the time, right, and there can also be kinds of
weird bacteria that you could ingest the water accidentally and
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get sick from that too. Whatever it is, it happened,
whether it was a chemical poisoning or a bacteria, they
all got it around the same time. All started exhibiting
similar symptoms. So as of right now, we're going to
just have to wait and see what the toxicology shows.
So the toxicology will just be checking for actual drugs,
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but thinking that they were treated the night before correct
at the hotel. Yeah, So, I mean, I can't even
imagine what medication they would have possibly given them, because
they kind of want food poisoning sometimes to run its course,
so they might have given them pepto or something like that.
And like, listen, people can be alertic to medication. People
have died from taking tile and all, but it's just
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so rare. So that's where I'm thinking that that's probably
not going to show much either. He probably just died
as a result of the infection. And another thing to
consider is that, let's say, for example, the family was
at a restaurant and the Sun got a dessert and
then other people were like, let me try that, but
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he ate most of it and they had like a
bite of it. Sometimes they might not seem as sick
as he would, depending on how much he ingested. Another
thing is that we don't know the Sun's medical history,
so you know, let's say, for example, like my daughter
Lucia is considered immunosuppressed because of some of the medications
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that she's on for her bone disorder, and that would
make her more likely to get a more severe reaction
from something like this rather than the other people that
might have been a little bit healthier. So we don't
know if he had anything like that either. You know,
throwing up like that a lot causes severe dehydration. There's
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just like lots of different things to consider. So unfortunately,
we just have to wait until more results come out
because the authorities over there in Costa Rica had said
that the toxicology histology, which is looking at the slides
under the microscope, which it appears that they may not
have even done yet, and neuropathology, which is looking at
the brain, will be delayed because there's such a high
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demand for autopsies because apparently there's like an increase of
homicides there and they're just overwhelmed with autopsy so they're
saying it might take months to actually get the results.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, it's just really sad for this family where you know,
you're trying to be on a trip that's fun and
then something like this that's tragic just happens, and then
you're not really getting answers right away either. Yeah, And
I think and this happened to me while traveling in
America when we just drove from We drove from New
Jersey to Las Vegas over Christmas time, and Lucia got sick.
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She started coughing a lot, and I was kind of like,
all right, whatever, she's got a virus. And then all
of a sudden, it was just like, all right, we
have a problem. We have to go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And we were in the middle of New Mexico, which
is just not anywhere near populated around here, where there's
just an urgent care on every corner. And it's scary
when you're traveling and you're not in your air and
you just don't even have access to the things that
you normally have access to. But at least being in America,
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you're kind of like, all right, well, I'm going to
go to this Walgreens and hopefully it's the same as
the one near my house, like you could there's like
similar things. Oh, I'm going to go to urgent care
and they have similar way of doing things than my
urgent care does. But when you're traveling to other countries,
just things are handled so much differently. So the reason
I'm saying this is because maybe if they were let's
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say they were in Florida, for example, on a similar
type of vacation, they might have considered his condition to
be severe enough or the people around him that they
needed to go to the hospital. And when they had
And I don't know what the deal is because this
seems to be like a really fancy resort. It said
it was two thousand dollars a night. I mean, that's
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a lot. Most people don't go on vacations that cost
that much money, right, so they might And again, this
is like a little bit of a VIP special Tree
meant thing like oh, we'll just send a doctor or
somebody to your room to help you instead of you
having to leave and go to a hospital. And that
could be involved in it too, because that kid could
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have I mean, like I'm thinking, if he was dead
in the middle of the night, hours after he was
seen by a medical professional, he was either worse off
than he seemed to be, I needed to have more
intervention or I mean, the asphyxia thing would have made
sense just because that's something that just happens right away.
It's a quick thing. So I am just really curious
(10:32):
about how this is gonna go down.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, this next one is like total nightmare of fuel.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It really is, right, And I saw this last night
and I was just thinking Jesus, like, I can't believe
that this really happened. But tell them about the story.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So this kid goes to the babysitter and says, there's
a monster hiding under my bed, which how many times
did children do this?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So they're like, Okay, she's like, all right, I'm gonna
go upstairs and show you there's nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
If he goes.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Upstairs, looks under the bed, and then his face to
face with the man, it's just unbelievable, right, Yeah, but
could you imagine like the jump scare of that chick
got cheese.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'd be like because I wouldn't even expect it to
be a human. So it's just like, I don't even
know what you would think. But what, like what was
happening today? Say, because I don't really remember in the
article if they said anything about the parents, like where
were the parents at the time. I mean, it's normal
that there's a babysitter at the house and the parents
aren't home. I'm just wondering. Usually just strange men don't
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break into people's houses and hide under the bed, So like,
there's more to this story. Well, this is what was weird.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Is it said he once lived on the property but
there was a protection order issued against him to stay
away from it, So like who was he?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like, well, exactly, like we need more details, okay, okay?
So he is it possible that he's some kind of
a friend or family member, Like he lived with those people, he.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Had to have been connected to them in some capacity,
Like was he a roommate, was he a family friend?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Was he a relative? So I wonder if the kid
just heard noises and was like, there's something in my room?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, how many times are there stories where you know, like,
if you're sitting in your house, you might if you
have like an attic or something, you might just think
that you like hear something, but you're like, oh, it's
probably just the wind or whatever. And then you see
these stories that are like man's been living in woman's
attic for thirty four years, Like how yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It is a crazy story, and of course we'll never
hear anything more about it, so you know, we have.
We always have so many questions, and the way they
write these stories, you're just like, dude, you gotta like
give us way more information. You can't leave us hanging
like this.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
No. And this next one's crazy too, because this anesthesiologist
and his wife are on this hiking trail in Hawaii.
So he's saying he just wanted to take a photo
with her and she didn't want to, so then he
allegedly attempted to throw her off the hiking trail, struck
her in the head with the rock. There's also something
about him trying to poke her with a syringe.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
On the scene. I guess everybody thinks that this is
crazy because this guy has like no indication that he
was like this, no history of this anywhere, but no crimes.
I know it doesn't, but you know, sometimes if you
ever think about people that are in this situation, like
this dude is like one of the highest levels of physicians.
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He works at a really prestigious place, and think about
his coworkers getting interviewed and hearing this story that they
some people would be shocked. Like sometimes you know, there's
certain people in your life that if you heard this,
you'd be like I'm not surprised, Yeah, you know, And
that's that's all they're saying here, is like they're surprised.
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They think it's unusual, and honestly, like, I guess they
know the story because the wife's not dead and she
told them what happened. I don't know how she ever
got to the hospital. I guess maybe there were witnesses
or something, but she like for not taking a picture.
It seems it seems kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well, if you think about if there's domestic violence going
on in the house, little things like that tend to
trigger and abuse her. So I mean, it's not really surprising.
But I don't know if they have a history of
that or what. But I guess they were at an
elevation of twelve hundred feet and they were saying that
the quote wind so strong that one could lean against
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the wall of wind. So I guess at first it
wasn't unclear how she like fell, but then when they
found her, she was in critical condition. But she's still
alive and she was able to tell her side of
the story, and this is what's being alleged against him.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's really it reminds me of this case that we
had when we were doing this podcast in the gross room.
Do you remember again it was a doctor who drove
off a cliff with his kids and his wife in
the car.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Could you imagine first responders like rescuing these people and
going to the hospital and they finally start talking and
they say that he intentionally did this on purpose. It's
just it it There's there's other stories coming up. I
don't know if it's in this today's episode or tomorrow's
episode that you think about what these poor doctors have
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to go through in the hospital because you're treating someone
that you you innocently think fell down on vacation, right,
and then all of a sudden you hear these stories.
It must really be hard for the doctors to hear
things like this as well, to know that someone intentionally
hurted some hurt someone like that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, for sure. I Mean the thing is is he's
been suspended from his practice while this is being investigated,
So I really wonder if they're going to turn up,
like if he's had any history of abuse or whatever,
because I mean, this thing, this type of thing, Let's
say that he's innocent in all this, Like this doesn't
go away. Everybody's gonna remember that you're that guy that
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pushed his wife off the cliff, even if he didn't
really do it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, it's just it's just kind of sad actually to
think that a person would work. We say this all
the time, like you work so hard to do this,
this great, amazing thing and become a physician with your life,
Like why would you? I guess, I guess it's not
really an argument because it's not like any just because
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someone has a good job doesn't mean that they shouldn't
throw their life away. But anybody shouldn't do anything like this.
It's just it's just really bizarre to me. But it's
it's interesting though, when you hear stories like this, because
especially with domestic violence, like it's not just limited to
a certain socioeconomic group. It goes across all spans of
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the poorest people, the richest people, race it everything like.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's grittiest people, the yeast people.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And it's and you know when you hear I was
listening to an interview with Gabby Petito's parents and talking
about there's just like a lot of interesting things. I'm
glad that they're going on all of these shows and
they're talking about domestic violence and trying to make something
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at least educate people and the horrible thing that they
had to experience with their daughter's death. But some of
the signs they were going through the the nine to
one to one or the footage from the Moa Police
Department and talking about just some of these signs that
she was showing when she was talking and things she
was saying, but even hand movements and stuff, And I
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just thought that was so it's so interesting about how
many people it affects, but people obviously don't talk about it.
And so yeah, like once they investigate this particular case too,
I'm sure that they're going to they're going to find
all this stuff out, because that's not you know, if
you're with Ricky on vacation, like he's not just going
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to throw you over the edge. There's like way more
to the story, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Can you imagine being in the surgical bed like about
to undergo anesthesia and the anesthesiologist comes in and is like,
all right, we're gonna like start setting you up, and
it's this person that was in the news for possibly
throwing their.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I mean, no, he's done.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm just saying he gets off as innocent, like you
just don't forever remember his face being associated with this story.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The scary thing is is though that we've talked about
this before. Remember we were talking about that case where
the doctor took out this guy's liver instead of this
guy's spleen yea, And then we found out that there
was another case that he took out the wrong organ
or or something like that there was a major mistake.
The thing is is that oftentimes people don't really research
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the physicians that are doing their procedures and stuff and
really find out like go on medical boards and find
out like if these people have any claims against them
or anything. The scary thing is is like once this guy,
if this guy was able to get off, like you
might not even know about it. As a patient, Yeah,
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I mean when you have surgery. At least I've only
had a couple of little procedures here and there, But
like I don't know who the anesthesiologist is going to
be until they come in and they start talking to you.
It's not like you have a choice, do you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
That's what I was just gonna say, Like, let's say
you do do their research, but can you be like, well,
I don't want that person because they had bad press.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like, yeah, I mean, it works like it doesn't Like
I feel like even when I had the kids and stuff.
I mean, and I had two horrible experiences with anesthesia
at both hospitals, but like even I feel like you
just get who's there that day. I don't know that
you have a choice. So it's it's just a really
interesting thing to think about. It's just the same as
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like you get x rays, right, Like you don't get
to pick what radiologists looks at your x rays. You
don't get to pick what pathologist looks at your stuff it.
You know, It's just like that's that's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So yeah, all right, So two years ago, this only
fans chick was performing a fetish session with a client
when he became unresponsive and she had to call nine
one one, And just now two years later, she's being
arrested for his murder. I wonder what's taking so long,
just because so I guess apparently he they you know,
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they go through all of the emails and everything in
the correspondence between the people and he had said that
he wanted to get saran wrapped like a mummy with
a pair of woman's boots glued to his feet, which
is these are very interesting requests, and adhesive poured on
into his eyes to seal them shut. That's what he wanted,
(20:38):
and he paid someone eleven thousand dollars to do this
to him. But I guess like that's her thing on OnlyFans.
I didn't even like look into her, But I guess
that's I didn't even really realize OnlyFans models actually like
met the people that they were talking to.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Well, I guess it could.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I guess it could cross as like you know, cam
girl content with like this girl's obviously like a dominatrix
of some sort, right, or maybe she just did dominatrix
like sessions with this guy. So, like you're saying, he
requested for him to be wrapped up in saranne wrap
and have the boots and have pour adhesive onto his
eyes to seal them shut, but he actually ended up
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with duct tape over his mouth, a plastic bag over
his head, and more sarane rap around that, and then
duct tape wrapped around his face and head. So basically
he just suffocated.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, but but like, why did it take them so
long to arrest her because there's no other reason that
that that would happen. And really, even even if they
found emails that said I want you to do this
to me, you as a human have a responsibility like
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not to kill someone if they ask you to, and
you have to be dumb to know that this wouldn't
kill someone. They have all these warning about plastic bags,
putting it over a baby's head, all this stuff, and
it's like, don't go in a sleeping bag with it
ZIPPERD And you're talking about putting all of that stuff
plus taping it on his head so he can't even
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get it off. Well he couldn't anyway, right because his
body was saran wrapped like a mummy. But even if
he asked you to do that and you did it,
you would still be you should still be charged with
with his homicide. I am with you.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I don't understand why this investigation took so long because
it's pretty straightforward. I mean, they could have seen their
communication via email, I feel like, pretty quickly, and it
was obvious what happened, Like what he requested isn't what happened.
And let's say he even requested it the day of
Like she still is responsible in some capacity for it happening,
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So like, why did it take two full years? I
would understand a couple of months if they were waiting
to look through like phone records everything like that, but
two years is insane. Well, and they also found a
video on her phone using a vibrator and in the
background he was laying with the plastic bag and saran
wrap on his head. Like, so she was not only
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getting paid one thousand, eleven thousand dollars to do this
to him, but then she was making content and also
I guess she was making I don't know if she
was making it for just him or if she was
planning on uploading that content to her OnlyFans page, which
is fine. I mean, if she wants to double dip,
it's fine. The problem is is that she she killed him.
(23:32):
Like I don't really know what else to say. So
I'm glad she finally got did it say? Or she
just got arrested, so we don't even know like what
she's actually getting from this. No, but she's happy in
court like next month, so I'm sure there'll be more
about it. I just I just can't believe they knew
she was there. They knew exactly what happened. It seems
(23:54):
like the medical examiner knew it was a homicide from
the start, So just like what took so long?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No idea.
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Okay, this next, This is outrageous to me, this story,
I really I sent it to one of my friends
who is a transplant nurse and she can't believe it either.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah. So this patient ended up getting a kidney transplant
back in December and then contracted rabies through the donated organ.
Are they not testing for that?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, they're not, but I'll tell you why. There's there's
a reason. So when you if you look up rabies
right now in the United States, how many people get
rabies and die? Because most it's like one hundred percent fatal.
Ten people in the whole entire United States die from
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from this every from rabies, every single year. Ten people.
So they're not going to test organs for it because
the chances of somebody getting it are apparently not ever
going to happen because of this. But it's so rare,
I'm sure there's like not even any cases of it,
or if there are, there's not that many of this
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ever happening.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So like, all right, so the person who donated their organs,
so they got rabies obviously, and then how long does
that take to present?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So this is this is what I'm thinking right now.
I'm thinking, when you get bit by an animal that
has rabies, it takes anywhere from three to eight weeks
to start showing signs of the infection. But there's documentation
of this taking days, weeks and even a month to
show up it as an infection. So this person, I'm
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thinking that the person that donated the organ could have
possibly been bit by an animal and didn't go to
the hospital and get treatment and get the rabies vaccine
when they went to the hospital and then died, maybe
in a car accident shortly thereafter or within a couple
weeks of that bite, and that's how it went down.
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So the person wasn't having any symptoms yet of rabies,
but had it inside of their body. Because the only
other option is that this person got the transplant and
then went home and got rabies themselves and then died,
and I don't think that's likely because this person had
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the transplant and died within a month. And like we said,
the lowest point of the incubation period is three weeks,
So if you get a transplant, you're in the hospital.
I don't know how long you would be in the
hospital if there was any complications or whatever, but you're
in the hospital for a little while after you get
it transplant, So there wouldn't even have physically been time
(28:04):
for this patient to go home and interact with an
animal to get bit and then go back to the hospital. Furthermore,
this person lives in Michigan and had the transplant surgery
done in Ohio, and they said that the person died
at the same place where they had the transplant, which
means to me that it's possible that that person never
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even left the hospital after they had the transplant. And
we're exhibiting started exhibiting super weird symptoms that you know,
these these transplant nurses and doctors take care of these
people all the time, and they know what they're looking for,
which is rejection of the organ is the biggest thing,
or infection. And then this person starts showing these symptoms
(28:50):
that you wouldn't normally see in those types of patients,
including like respiratory arrests and seizures and paralysis and things
that like would be we to happen in a normal
transplant person. And that might be how they were keyed
in that this was happening. So let's say, for example,
the donor had lived another couple weeks, maybe they would
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have started exhibiting the symptoms and been one of the
ten people that died in this country from it, which
is still outrageous to me.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Can you just imagine having the bad look of kindragting
rabees and then dying in a car accident?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
If this is well, yeah, I mean exactly, But I
mean I'm just saying that because the reason I'm saying
a car accident is because if a person went to
the hospital and was exhibiting any of these symptoms, they
would they would not be a candidate for the transplant. Yeah,
so they weren't having anything like this before they died,
(29:48):
and that makes me think, Okay, they just died in
some kind of an accident, like a drop dead situation.
And what they do the Oregon Donor Centers, they determined
there's a different a bunch of different factors. They do
tell for certain bacteria and viruses for sure, but like
common ones. Right, they're not going to test for rabies
because it's not common. They're not going to test for
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polio like they just won't test for like Rando things ebola, like,
come on, it's just not happening, So they test for
the most common ones. Sometimes they look at pieces of
an organ under the microscope to determine if it looks healthy.
They ask a lot of questions to the family and friends,
like were they sick, did they have any of this?
Did they have any of that? And that's it, Like,
(30:30):
I don't think that they did anything wrong here. I
just think this is like such a freak thing. I
just don't see how else it could have possibly happened.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, I do think it's just so it's so weird
to talk about because it's so rare in general, and
then like you just had like everything go wrong at
the exact same moment with this case.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you remember. Back
in September, we talked about a case where there was
this boy that had a bat in his bedroom and
then he ended up dying from raby's and it was
like his parents didn't even know they got the bat
out of the house. The parents didn't even know that
the bat had bit him because they because their teeth
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can leave like pinpoint little marks, and they just didn't
see it. So it's just totally possible that this person
just got that got got bit by an animal. Like
you're you have to go to the hospital when you
get bit by an animal, because they have drugs that
they can give you, and it's it's called post exposure prophylaxis.
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It is nearly one hundred percent effective if it's administered
within forty eight hours of a bite. So getting bit
by an animal and not going and get this getting
this done, I mean sometimes it's like, Okay, if your
dog bites you, and you know your dog's up on
it shots and stuff, then you could be like, all right,
I'm not gonna go, you know. But but really it's
(31:53):
just it's funny because I was just thinking about this. Actually,
do you remember years ago, Lillian was like eighteen months
old and we were at some art show and some
guy was carrying around one of those like Paris Hilton
purse dogs that it had like a Louis Vauton outfit
on that was more expensive than any of the clothes
I was wearing. And it was like a pomeranium, like
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a little tiny, like miniature Pomerani thing, and it bit
Lilian on the hand. It likes. She thought it was
like a doll and like hit it on the face
and it bit her right so and it didn't it
didn't really even hurt her. It just was like a
little nibble thing. But I just took her to the
doctor right away, and and you know, he was just like,
all right, well we have to figure out. So I
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got the guy's information and figured out that the dog
had shots and stuff, because it's like you just I'm like,
I'm sure the dog is up to date on its
shots because it's full out in Louis Vaton and gets
like a SPA treatment every night, right, Sometimes people prioritize
the Vaton outfits over the medical exactly, But so it
all worked out well. But that's that's why they want
to know, because you can get this this Raybi's uh
(33:02):
you know, the post exposure PROFILACCECS and and it will
prevent you from from getting it. So because rabies is
one hundred percent fatal, like there's barely there's a couple
people that have survived in history, a couple people like
you don't want it ever, so it's just better to
get it treated. And I just I guess this is
just like one of I don't even I don't even
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know that you could even plan something like this. I
just don't see how else it's possible.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
This is a storyline on nineteen twenty three right now,
where that girl we were talking about a couple of
weeks ago that like has so much like botox and fillers.
She's like not believable at all. Her character like gets
bit by a wolf that has Raybi's and she has
to get these insane you know how they like make
needles from back then look so crazy in TV and movies.
(33:52):
But it's just this horrible thing that she has to get.
Like every episode I hate watching it. She looks just horrible.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
The thing is is that back in the day, rabies
used to be an issue and it's one of these
really cool things where animal medicine and human medicine came
together and got it under control. And it's mostly because
of vaccinating the animals. But then it's also when people
get exposed, because like every there's no point of every
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single person getting vaccinated for that, because why add another
one of the thousands that we need to get anyway, right,
But like if you're at a higher exposure, like people
that work at vet offices and stuff. They should be
protected against that because there's a very high risk they're
going to get bit by an animal. Right, But it's cool,
like it used to be really present in dogs, even
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back in the day before the vaccinations and stuff. So
it's it really has gone away and it's not killing
thousands of people every year like it used to. And
now it's just ten. And one of these ten just
so happened to donate an organ and it sucks actually
because the guy got a second chance at life and
got a kidney and then he died anyway because of
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rabies of all. Like it's so.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Outrageous, all right, So let's get onto this last story,
which this one is truly one of the most unbelievable
ones for me, which is the sixty six year old
woman in Germany has given birth to her tenth child vs.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Section, Like, why would you even want to have a
baby when you're sixty six? I just don't. I can't
wrap my brain around it.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
It looks like she had two children when she was younger,
and then since she turned fifty three she's had eight kids,
including twins, And I.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Mean, is she married and stuff, like her husband's on
board with this too, or what's happening there.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I mean, there wasn't really much background on her other
than the fact that she's a museum director. But I
don't know why you would choose to do this. I mean,
she was saying that she wanted a large family and
all this stuff, and she made sure to let everybody
know she did not use any reproductive technologies to conceive
the children.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But I just think it's crazy. It's possible because you
can get something that's like late onset menopause. I mean,
think about even there's such a variety of a window
of when women could go into menopause, right, so think
about when you were a kid even and get in
your period. It's like I knew kids that got it
when they were eight years old, and like my mom
(36:20):
got hers when she was seventeen years old. It's just
a huge variation in ages. And you know, they'll call
it precocious or late set puberty and everything like that.
But when you're talking about menopause, it's considered anything after
fifty five years old is considered to be late on set.
But I found a really cool case actually of this
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sixty five year old lady that went to the er
after she had a cerebral vascular accident, so like a
stroke or something like a mini stroke or something. And
when she was getting examined, they noted that she had
vaginal bleeding and they consulted gynecology and they talked to
her and when she got interviewed, she was like, yeah,
I still get my period, and they were like, eh,
(37:01):
are you sure. And because when a woman, it is
in her sixties, sixty five year old woman is bleeding,
they consider that to be like it's a it's a
bad sign and it could be a sign of endometrial
cancer or something like that. So they interviewed her and
she was like, no, I still get my period. So
they wanted to check because they're like, eh, you could
have been bleeding for a while and you might have
(37:23):
like uterine cancer or something like that. And sure enough,
like her blood work, her hormones were checked and they
were at the pre menopausal range at sixty five years old.
So it's yeah, it's it's it's really interesting, right, So
I mean it sounds terrible to an extent because listen, like,
just because I'm a person that's kind of going through
(37:43):
that right now. I always was like I can't wait
till I get my stop getting my period, and now
that like, I'm I really haven't had it much in
the past two years. I'm like, I kind of wish
I had it back because I felt like at least
it was like very regular, like every whatever it is,
twenty eight days or whatever, you get it, and you
would know that you would feel like shit for a
couple of days, but then you would know it would
(38:03):
go away. And now it's just like all of that
is kind of all over the place, and I just
hate that. But just thinking about bleeding like a period
at sixty five years old just sounds terrible to me.
But this, so this is what could have possibly happened
with this lady, that she just that she still is ovulating,
And I mean, after you're forty five years old, they're
(38:26):
like the chances of you having a baby naturally just
diminish even after thirty five. Really, so it's it's totally
possible that she's not lying about that.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
No, I don't think she's lying about it. But I'm
like sitting here as a thirty year old, like I
don't even want to put my body at thirty years
old through the process of giving birth right, let alone
having a sea section, let alone having eight sea sections,
Because isn't that an incredibly intense surgery. It's not just
like yeah, and you risk you risk that every single
time just opening up that wound again, and you could
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you could have complications associated with that and adhesions like
when your organs stick to your other organs, and like
in the case of the C section, it could be
like your uterus could stick to the front of your
abdominal wall and it could cause a lot of problems.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Like the thing is is that you know so many
people that have babies and stuff, and if you ask
them all their experiences, everyone has a different one. Some
people just don't think pregnancy is like that big of
a deal all at all, and they just go about
their life and pop the kid out and then they're
just like find the whole time. And other women are like,
this is the worst thing ever. I don't want to
(39:36):
do this again. And it's like for me, like, I
don't think it was the greatest thing ever. I'm kind
of neutral about it, like I I mean, I'm just
like older now, so I wouldn't consider it. But it
wasn't the worst thing ever. But also it wasn't I
didn't think it was great. Like momm thinks it was
the best thing ever being pregnant. She thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh my god, I can't believe that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
But you see people all the time that are just
that are just like, yeah, this is great, like and
they gain like twenty pounds the whole time, and they're
exercising the whole time, and like, no, I just like
there's certain things about that. I mean, it's a good experience,
of course, but like so, but some people just I mean,
(40:21):
she's kind of like, Okay, I'm sixty six, and I'm
gonna see if this could happen, and if it happens,
like she just is, she's on the news now right
for it?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Right, I mean, can I just say something a little controversial,
Like I keep seeing all this press about how awesome
it is that Robert de Niro, who's eighty one years old,
has this baby, right, and how he's such a great dad,
And I'm like, is it not selfish to have a
child when you're eighty years old, like giving them basically
(40:50):
no life with you.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
But like this woman we're talking about sixty six, Like
my grandmam died when she was ninety nine, so I
mean technically, like this lady could live in other thirty
years and like that's.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, but what's the likelihood she's gonna live in another
thirty years?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Because like what's that?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
She seems like she's healthier than I am, for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I just think it's this weird thing, and like if
you want to do it, do whatever you want. I
just think it's like bizarre when you want to have
a kid when you're in your fifties and sixties and
seventies and like Robert de Niro in your eighties. You know,
it's just bizarre to me.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, but then like what are you going to make
a magic age? It's the same thing as telling people
they can't have you know what. People of course, like listen,
I'll sit there and be the first to be like
this lady's a moron, and so are people that have
twenty kids and everything like that. But like it's not
my life, so I don't care. Right, it's you can't
put an age because because that's you just can't do that.
(41:50):
That's like one of your free rights as a human
being is to have children. Like whenever you want and right.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, I guess it's just a thought had because they've
been seeing all this stuff like I don't even know why,
Robert and keeps popping up like a news cycle. The
way that you're saying it is like, like I understand
what you're saying, but it's because like most people have this,
Most people, I would say, have this idea of what
(42:18):
an ideal life for a child should be. But that
doesn't mean that other children's life are not as valid,
because then you're getting into sl like then people would say, okay,
and well, actually people have said and do say, when
you're a teenager and you get pregnant that you should
(42:38):
automatically get an abortion because what kind of life would
that kid have? And like you're a prime example of that, right, So, so,
like you definitely didn't have what would be considered an
ideal life as a child because your mom and dad
weren't together, and you lived at the house with your grandparents,
and your uncle is almost like your brother and like
just some weird backwood shit, right, But but like you
(43:01):
add a good life and you're a successful adult, and
that doesn't mean that like your life wasn't worth being
born because you weren't born into an ideal situation, and honestly,
like if you just look around at everyone, you know,
there's a lot of kids that are living in situations
that you're like, that's probably not the best thing for
the kid, but they're they're fine. I guess my mind,
(43:22):
I don't even think about it when it comes to
terms with like our situation with you having me so young.
I think I go there to it being selfish because
I immediately think like eighty years old equals death soon
equals like this, And I know that's I know that's
like insane to think that way, but I just it
always crosses my mind, like these people are having kids
(43:44):
so old and then like their kid has no life
with them. And obviously, in Robert de Niro's case, for example,
he has the means to give this kid a really
good life, but that's the thing for case they don't.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
With famous people though, Like if you when you hear
about some of the way these people live, it's like
they're they're kids. Do you think like Kardashian's kids really
have much of a life with them, like really, Like
I know that you show it on TV and this
and that, but like how much time are they actually,
Like if you think about a traditional parent that's getting
(44:17):
their kids from school and coming home and sitting down
and doing their homework and going to their sports games
and doing this and doing that, Like a lot of
these famous parents aren't like very involved like that anyway.
There's always like some nanny with them all the time, this, that,
and the other. They might not even like go to school.
They might like I'm sure some of them travel with them,
but I think that a lot of them they're just
(44:39):
in this kind of life that other people take care
of the children. So it's like, so when de Niro dies,
like who cares? Because he could just pay someone and
leave money in his will for someone else to take
care of the kid. And really the kid's mom is
is like thirty or something, right.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, I guess my my greater problem is when people
we are like I'm not talking about women that are.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Like forty having a baby. I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Women that are like, so what this lady, what you're.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
What's you're cut off age? Then when you're going to
Congress to put forth this time Congress, I'm just saying like,
and then you could say you could say the same
thing like oh, okay, if you work and you make
fifteen dollars an hour, like you have no business having
a kid because you can't afford it, like and that
it's not it's not like no, well you can't say that,
(45:30):
Like I don't think I'm articulating my thoughts correctly on
this one.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
We're like really deep into this conversation by now.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Well, it's because it's it's it's interesting, it's interesting to
talk about.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Like, well, I think it plays into my greater problem
with people having like kids to check a box. So
like I would all right, like this is where I'm thinking,
but I group these people that are that are elderly
having babies in the same box as people that have
kids us for like Facebook photos that are under the
carav a nanny twenty four to seven, Like you're saying,
(46:05):
like it's just selfish to have kids just to have kids,
not because like.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, well it's just life. You could feel that way
all you want, but if you really boil it down,
like a lot of people aren't having kids for the
right reasons, So I don't think most people are actually
Like if you sat there and were like this kid
was born in a situation that like both parents were
done with their education and they own their house already,
(46:29):
and their student loans were paid off, and they were
married and and this, that and the other, and then
they had this kid that they planned for it. You'd
be like, that's one percent of the population, Like most
people are like getting knocked up all over the place.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Like it's realistic either that, Like that's a thing, you
know what I mean? Yeah, I'm talking about like people
that strictly have no interest at all in said child,
but go ahead pro creating them anyway. Like, well, kids
are born of all different circumstances, but they end up
in loving SAIDs. They don't have to have like the
most ideal situation obviously.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I think that like in society, like it's most there's
a lot of pressure to have children, and it takes
a lot for a person to say, like, you know what,
I don't really think I like being around kids and
I don't want to have them. And a lot of
people get pressure from their family and stuff, and a
lot of times you think that you're going to have
a kid. Every person that that is doesn't have a
(47:28):
kid thinks they're going to be the best person, the
best parent ever and then you have the kid and
then you're like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Like this
is really hard and some people just don't enjoy it,
and other people think maybe like I lucked out because
I feel like I don't really enjoy being around other people,
like around kids a lot. Like if me and Gabe
(47:50):
go on a date, I don't want to sit anywhere
near a table that has children, Like I just I
don't want it. I don't I don't care. I think
I'm a dickhead whatever, Like I just don't like that.
I don't want to be around kids like that. I
do have love for my friends' kids because they're like
they're almost like cousins to my kids. They're like family
to me, you know, But like in general, I'm not
(48:11):
a person that's just like, oh, your kid is so cute,
Like I just don't really I'm not really attached like that.
But I mean, for me, like, let's pretend I didn't
have any kids, I would take the chance and be like, well,
hopefully I'll love my kids. I know, I don't really
like kids, but like I might like my I should
like mine because they're mine, and I do luckily, But
like sometimes I think people have the kids and they
(48:34):
they never get that bond. They're just kind of like
not into it. And you see, like me and Gabe's
life all the time, it's just like we're kind of
it's like kids, kids' kids all the time. And some
people don't want to give up the like going out
to dinner at nine o'clock and hanging out with their
friends on the beach and this and that. Like so
so people like resent their kids them when they have them. Yeah,
(48:56):
I think I'm ultra is the biggest This is like
the biggest rant.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I know. I'm just gonna say, like, I think I'm
just so ultra sensitive to this because of writing up
a Ruby Frank for the last two weeks and just
being like, I don't think she had kids for the
purpose of having a YouTube channel. But then we see,
you know that other chick that adopted that Huxley child
for content specifically, and you're just like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
It's just so Yeah, that's interesting with the with the
family content creators because it seems like the fame of
all of it just kind of goes through their head
a little bit. And I really think when you even
hear about the Ruby Frank story, Like when you hear
about the beginning of their life, it seemed like it
probably was something that she wanted and was into. And
(49:42):
then as soon as she started getting famous and like
all this weird stuff happened with meeting that person and
this and that, like it just like whatever tendency she
had to be like a meaner sterner mom turned into
something super pathologic. And you see that sometimes in I mean,
we have a couple of cases like that with these
(50:02):
family vlog people.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, well I don't know if that rant was worth
going on, and it probably didn't make sense to our listeners,
but it happens now that yeah exactly what.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Well, No, I think it'll make sense. I think it'll
make sense to people because the first instinct you always
have is like they people shouldn't do that, but like
it's just it's it's just like not fair to be
like that.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
No, And I guess that's what you could judge.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
You could judge just I don't mind judging people. It's
more like when you then we know you don't mind
judging people, but but like I judge people, but I
would never like say, oh, there should be laws against
like like people could do whatever they want to do.
I'm against a lot of things people do, but but
(50:51):
I feel like they should have that right to do it.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Exactly. I'm in the mindset of do whatever you want.
But like, I'm not going to go to Congress and
be like, you need to put this like a on
people that have children, like that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
But I'm not gonna sit.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Here and act like it isn't strange to me.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
But all right, I.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Guess we should move on to the questions now, because
we just went on like a fifteen minute rant about nonsense.
All right, Every Friday at the ap mother knows that
the Instagram account, you guys can head over to our
story and ask us whatever you want. First questions from
friend of the pod lar Lee.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I knew this question was from her. I knew it.
I knew it.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
She said, how many car accidents are caused because of
those stupid road signs with the witty sayings, Oh my God,
Explain this to people that don't live in New Jersey,
because I don't know if this happens everywhere it does happen.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I feel like I saw it on my trip, maybe
in Ohio, so there, so New Jersey put forth this campaign,
which just drives me freaking crazy because, like, my tax
dollars are being spent on this that they put up.
You know those signs that they put that say the
electric signs that'll say like road closed or right or
(52:00):
something like that. It'll it's one of those signs. And
now they put these sayings on them to try to
get people to like not drink and drive, or to
put their seap out on or to not text and drive.
There's all these messages they put on it. And I
guess the thing that really makes me the most mad
of it is that, you know, you think about all
(52:21):
of these people in Congress and stuff like sitting around
and making this law, and just how much money these
this campaign actually costs. And the worst part is that
the signs are terrible. They're just they're not funny, they're terrible.
I wish I had an example of one.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Now I have an example of my favorite one that
was circulating a couple months ago. Are you ready for it? Yeah,
it's from California. Do not touch your partner's private part
well he or she is driving?
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Is that real?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (52:53):
So ours? Like ours? That's possible that that would say,
I don't think that that's real. It doesn't sound real
because a child could read that and that's not appropriate.
But I probably could look through my test. Here's some
I'm looking right now.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
So they're like they're usually like like they make ones
that are applicable to the shore because we live near
the shore, and it'll just and they rhyme and they're
just terrible, and you're like, they can't find any like
I want.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
To sit down and write them and send them in,
like a bunch of wittier things that would be quirky
and funny.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
All right, ready, no, no, Valentine, your seatbelt will hold you.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yes, that is one I saw. There was one for
there's one for Saint Patrick's Day. And there's definitely like
shore related ones about like there was something about a
shark bite or something. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Only Rudolph should be lit, drive high, get DUI.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, just they're so dumb. So yes, Lara, So me
and Laura are constantly talking about those signs. So when
I read that, I was like, either she sent this
question in or I'm gonna call her right after this
and be like, dude, someone else hates this too.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
I've never it's just so bad and like with chat
GBT existing, like you really can't come up with better ones.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
There was one. There was one with the Grinch.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
At Christmas Tamer.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
I probably have them because I feel like me and
Laura sent them to each other. But they were Yeah,
they were terrible, and like I'm sure there was there was.
They have another campaign going on too, about like texting
and driving and motorcyclists on the streets and not hitting them.
And it's like you hear these commercials all the time
and they're like, what if you didn't text it and
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you didn't hit the person, you would change their life.
Now this message has been life changing, You're like, no,
it hasn't. Actually, nobody is listening, like this is terrible.
This is the only thing that it's just I don't
I just don't understand.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Remember in Barrington there was that lumber place. It's like
a brewery.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Now, yeah, that dude should write them because he's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Wait, I have two of them from twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
So this was like a random like lumber place, family
owned place though, and he used to write hilarious things.
It would just be like, well I saw one on
a church once that was just like if you give
Satan an inch, he'll become a ruler. Oh my god,
like things like that, like a local church. But I
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like guys they're like funny, like.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
One of him says, ever tried groundhog kind of tastes
like hamster like, so random on a sign and then wait,
I have a Valentine's Day one too. I just have
to find it. But like when we're talking about we
don't need witty road signs, we understand, how you know?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, And I feel like, like Lar's point, they probably
cause people to like that's the thing with these things
that they put forth, there's no metrics to determine if
they're actually doing anything.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
All right, So his Valentine's one says, be our Valentine.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
We have hardwood. Yeah, that one was good.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, But the ones around here, they're just they're so
bad that they're funny. And I don't know if that's
their goal, but I don't. I would say they probably
aren't causing car actent.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I just the reason I get mad is because like
I just picture like corporate meetings and like some woman
in a business woman special with or like high heels
that you know, the type that carry their sneakers to
work with them and stuff, and like just walking around
and be like, Okay, guys, like around this big mahogany desk.
I mean, anytime I see this one, anytime I see
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a bad commercial or billboard or something like that, I'll
say to Ricky like, do you know how many people
had to approve this? It is true? It's ridiculous, all right.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Second question, when doing an autopsy, can you tell if
somebody has broken bones if they have healed? Yeah, So
when we do an autopsy, we don't typically examine bones
to the point where we would be able to see that,
except maybe when we open the abdominal cavity. We could
really see the spine pretty well and the ribs, So
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if someone had a broken rib previously, we could see
evidence of that for sure. If you're talking about a
leg or something like that, that would be a little
bit more iffy because we don't typically dissect the tissue
off off of long bones like the legs or the
arms like that, so we wouldn't see it grossly unless,
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of course, let's say, for example, someone found human bones
in a wood in the woods, they would get a
forensic anthropologist to look at the bones, and that those
scientists for sure would be able to look at the
bones and be able to determine if there was previously
healed fractures, but like we wouldn't actually be looking at
them for our purposes. And then obviously though, like we
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have access to x ray at autopsy, so if we
put someone, if we x rayed someone, we would be
able to determine if they had a previous broken bone,
just because when a bone breaks, and this just depends,
like especially in abuse cases and stuff, because sometimes like
kids will get abused and then the parents or the
people that are abusing them don't take them to the hospital,
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so their bones don't heal properly like you would if
you went and got a cast put on. So it
has very specific looks to the bones or any people.
If sometimes people break a rib and they don't really
realize it or something like that just has like a
different appearance. So yeah, in that case, if we image
the body, we would be able to see it as well.
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All right, last, what lunch do you typically have on
a workday?
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Like when we're recording, I just I just housed like
fifty seedless peppers and I'm about to go eat goat
cheese in a bowl. Well, yesterday we have nothing goods yesterday,
Well yesterday wasn't really considered a workday, no, but we
had craped y.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
But when we're sitting here, I just like I just
eat like little things. But we like, I cook dinner
almost every night, and we have a pretty big dinner
every night. So I just try to kind of like
snack on things throughout the day, you know, coffee, little
things here and there, and then at dinner all like
house a lot of food. So I just like, we
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don't really have time when we're recording and stuff, but
a few minutes to just like inhance something real quick.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah, Like I'll usually just have leftovers or if I
have something in the freezer, I could just pop in
the air fryer real quick, or on a desperate day,
just a bowl of cereal or like toast, and then
I'll just cook dinner early.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Well, I forgot I got those things that I got
a box for myself at Trader Joe's, those coconut ball things.
I wanted to try them, but I don't want to
hear it. I don't want to hear it. They're delicious Okay,
that's all I want to say. Maria's husband says they
they taste or smell like, so I just don't even
want to think about it because I'm not going to
want to eat it now.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
I'm not saying that on here because I think they're
delicious and here being ridiculous. All right, guys, well, thank
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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to be talking about a Yankee player's teen son
who mysteriously died on vacation in Costa Rica, a babysitter
who was checking under the bed for monsters only to
come across something far more scary, a person who died
from rabies after receiving a transplant, and a sixty six
(00:43):
year old who just gave birth. We have all that
and more on today's episode. So let's get started with
this Yankee player's son. Yeah, So former Yankees player Brett Gardner,
he was on vacation with his family in Costa Rica.
So they're saying that they went out to dinner at
this restaurant near the resort, and when they got back,
a couple people in the family got sick. So the
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resort then sent out a medical team with a licensed
doctor over to treat them, and in the middle of
the night, their fourteen year old son ended up dying.
So did they ever say what the medical team had
said that night when they saw all of these people.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So I first saw it being reported as food poisoning,
and an official had said it was due to asphyxiation
from food intoxication, but now that doesn't seem to.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Be the case. So there's a couple different things that
you could think about, especially when people say they ate
and then they got sick afterwards. The person that died especially,
so I think it's pretty safe that we could rule
out something like anaphylaxis, which would be something you would
think about if a person had a peanut allergy and
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was exposed to something they shouldn't be exposed to. Not
that it's one hundred percent not possible, but when you're
talking about multiple people being sick from eating the same
type of food, then you think more of Okay, it's
some kind of bacteria that was present in the food
that all of these people ate, which caused them all
to get sick shortly after they ate a meal. So
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when you're thinking about that, there's talk that there was
a lot of vomiting going on between the other people
as well as this boy, and in fact whoever came
and took care of him, I guess in the middle
of the night or whenever they decided to call emergency
services to come. They had said they were saying it
was a nearby urgent care that had treated him. I
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don't know how things work in Costa Rica, but essentially
they showed up and they had to do CPR on
the kid because he was unresponsive, and they said that
he was basically clinically dead when they arrived. They said
that there was indication of vomiting president when they got
to the hotel room, and it was in his bed actually,
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but they couldn't confirm that it is from him. So
I guess initially with that presentation, people would assume that
possibly he asphyxiated, which would mean that he vomited and
then he inhaled it again and it got caught in
his lungs and caused him to die that way by
a lack of oxygen. But I guess when they did
(03:21):
the autopsy they didn't see any evidence of that, at
least grossly or by looking at it with the human eye.
Now they still do need to look at the lungs
under the microscope in order to determine that that wasn't
the case, but usually if somebody dies from that, there's
going to be evidence of it right away. So now
(03:41):
so they basically ruled out asphyxia because of the vomit.
They ruled out anaphylaxis probably for the most part, because
again that's something that you could see at autopsy. You
could see swelling in the throat definitely, that would be
something you could see as well. So they probably ruled
out those two things. So now they're just trying to see,
(04:03):
I guess what kind of infection these people had, because
you have to think it's there is a rare chance
that it could be from something else too. When you
just think about a whole bunch of people that are
eating food at the same time, it gets sick pretty
soon afterwards, you think of it could be like chemicals
in the food, like actual poison, or it could be
(04:24):
a bacteria. So that's what people like epidemiologists do, is
they try to find the source of like where this
all happens. So they're going to interview all the people
that were there and find out what they ate, and
then they're going to go to the restaurant and see
what they ate and see what they all ate the
same of and try to determine if it was from there.
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The thing is is sometimes when you get a bacterial
infection from food, it might not present for days actually,
so even though they all started getting sick around the
same time after they ate that one meal, doesn't necessar
mean it's from that meal, depending on what the bacteria is.
Now the good news is is that they could test
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his poop and then test his blood and everything at
autopsy as well as the people that are still alive
that might still have the infection, and they they can
determine what the bacteria is. And each bacteria acts differently,
so some will infect people within thirty minutes, others will
be forty eight hours, and then they'll be able to
really track back to what restaurant they were eating at
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at that particular time. Another thing to take into consideration
when people are on trips like this in somewhere like
Costa Rica, when I know I've never been there, I
really want to go there, but I always see that
people are in these you know, in the water all
the time, right, and there can also be kinds of
weird bacteria that you could ingest the water accidentally and
(05:51):
get sick from that too. Whatever it is, it happened,
whether it was a chemical poisoning or a bacteria, they
all got it around the same time. All started exhibiting
similar symptoms. So as of right now, we're going to
just have to wait and see what the toxicology shows.
So the toxicology will just be checking for actual drugs,
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but thinking that they were treated the night before correct
at the hotel. Yeah, So, I mean, I can't even
imagine what medication they would have possibly given them, because
they kind of want food poisoning sometimes to run its course,
so they might have given them pepto or something like that.
And like, listen, people can be alertic to medication. People
have died from taking tile and all, but it's just
(06:36):
so rare. So that's where I'm thinking that that's probably
not going to show much either. He probably just died
as a result of the infection. And another thing to
consider is that, let's say, for example, the family was
at a restaurant and the Sun got a dessert and
then other people were like, let me try that, but
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he ate most of it and they had like a
bite of it. Sometimes they might not seem as sick
as he would, depending on how much he ingested. Another
thing is that we don't know the Sun's medical history,
so you know, let's say, for example, like my daughter
Lucia is considered immunosuppressed because of some of the medications
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that she's on for her bone disorder, and that would
make her more likely to get a more severe reaction
from something like this rather than the other people that
might have been a little bit healthier. So we don't
know if he had anything like that either. You know,
throwing up like that a lot causes severe dehydration. There's
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just like lots of different things to consider. So unfortunately,
we just have to wait until more results come out
because the authorities over there in Costa Rica had said
that the toxicology histology, which is looking at the slides
under the microscope, which it appears that they may not
have even done yet, and neuropathology, which is looking at
the brain, will be delayed because there's such a high
(08:03):
demand for autopsies because apparently there's like an increase of
homicides there and they're just overwhelmed with autopsy so they're
saying it might take months to actually get the results.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, it's just really sad for this family where you know,
you're trying to be on a trip that's fun and
then something like this that's tragic just happens, and then
you're not really getting answers right away either. Yeah, And
I think and this happened to me while traveling in
America when we just drove from We drove from New
Jersey to Las Vegas over Christmas time, and Lucia got sick.
(08:40):
She started coughing a lot, and I was kind of like,
all right, whatever, she's got a virus. And then all
of a sudden, it was just like, all right, we
have a problem. We have to go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And we were in the middle of New Mexico, which
is just not anywhere near populated around here, where there's
just an urgent care on every corner. And it's scary
when you're traveling and you're not in your air and
you just don't even have access to the things that
you normally have access to. But at least being in America,
(09:07):
you're kind of like, all right, well, I'm going to
go to this Walgreens and hopefully it's the same as
the one near my house, like you could there's like
similar things. Oh, I'm going to go to urgent care
and they have similar way of doing things than my
urgent care does. But when you're traveling to other countries,
just things are handled so much differently. So the reason
I'm saying this is because maybe if they were let's
(09:29):
say they were in Florida, for example, on a similar
type of vacation, they might have considered his condition to
be severe enough or the people around him that they
needed to go to the hospital. And when they had
And I don't know what the deal is because this
seems to be like a really fancy resort. It said
it was two thousand dollars a night. I mean, that's
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a lot. Most people don't go on vacations that cost
that much money, right, so they might And again, this
is like a little bit of a VIP special Tree
meant thing like oh, we'll just send a doctor or
somebody to your room to help you instead of you
having to leave and go to a hospital. And that
could be involved in it too, because that kid could
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have I mean, like I'm thinking, if he was dead
in the middle of the night, hours after he was
seen by a medical professional, he was either worse off
than he seemed to be, I needed to have more
intervention or I mean, the asphyxia thing would have made
sense just because that's something that just happens right away.
It's a quick thing. So I am just really curious
(10:32):
about how this is gonna go down.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, this next one is like total nightmare of fuel.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It really is, right, And I saw this last night
and I was just thinking Jesus, like, I can't believe
that this really happened. But tell them about the story.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So this kid goes to the babysitter and says, there's
a monster hiding under my bed, which how many times
did children do this?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So they're like, Okay, she's like, all right, I'm gonna
go upstairs and show you there's nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
If he goes.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Upstairs, looks under the bed, and then his face to
face with the man, it's just unbelievable, right, Yeah, but
could you imagine like the jump scare of that chick
got cheese.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'd be like because I wouldn't even expect it to
be a human. So it's just like, I don't even
know what you would think. But what, like what was
happening today? Say, because I don't really remember in the
article if they said anything about the parents, like where
were the parents at the time. I mean, it's normal
that there's a babysitter at the house and the parents
aren't home. I'm just wondering. Usually just strange men don't
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break into people's houses and hide under the bed, So like,
there's more to this story. Well, this is what was weird.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Is it said he once lived on the property but
there was a protection order issued against him to stay
away from it, So like who was he?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like, well, exactly, like we need more details, okay, okay?
So he is it possible that he's some kind of
a friend or family member, Like he lived with those people, he.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Had to have been connected to them in some capacity,
Like was he a roommate, was he a family friend?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Was he a relative? So I wonder if the kid
just heard noises and was like, there's something in my room?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, how many times are there stories where you know, like,
if you're sitting in your house, you might if you
have like an attic or something, you might just think
that you like hear something, but you're like, oh, it's
probably just the wind or whatever. And then you see
these stories that are like man's been living in woman's
attic for thirty four years, Like how yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It is a crazy story, and of course we'll never
hear anything more about it, so you know, we have.
We always have so many questions, and the way they
write these stories, you're just like, dude, you gotta like
give us way more information. You can't leave us hanging
like this.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
No. And this next one's crazy too, because this anesthesiologist
and his wife are on this hiking trail in Hawaii.
So he's saying he just wanted to take a photo
with her and she didn't want to, so then he
allegedly attempted to throw her off the hiking trail, struck
her in the head with the rock. There's also something
about him trying to poke her with a syringe.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
On the scene. I guess everybody thinks that this is
crazy because this guy has like no indication that he
was like this, no history of this anywhere, but no crimes.
I know it doesn't, but you know, sometimes if you
ever think about people that are in this situation, like
this dude is like one of the highest levels of physicians.
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He works at a really prestigious place, and think about
his coworkers getting interviewed and hearing this story that they
some people would be shocked. Like sometimes you know, there's
certain people in your life that if you heard this,
you'd be like I'm not surprised, Yeah, you know, And
that's that's all they're saying here, is like they're surprised.
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They think it's unusual, and honestly, like, I guess they
know the story because the wife's not dead and she
told them what happened. I don't know how she ever
got to the hospital. I guess maybe there were witnesses
or something, but she like for not taking a picture.
It seems it seems kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well, if you think about if there's domestic violence going
on in the house, little things like that tend to
trigger and abuse her. So I mean, it's not really surprising.
But I don't know if they have a history of
that or what. But I guess they were at an
elevation of twelve hundred feet and they were saying that
the quote wind so strong that one could lean against
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the wall of wind. So I guess at first it
wasn't unclear how she like fell, but then when they
found her, she was in critical condition. But she's still
alive and she was able to tell her side of
the story, and this is what's being alleged against him.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's really it reminds me of this case that we
had when we were doing this podcast in the gross room.
Do you remember again it was a doctor who drove
off a cliff with his kids and his wife in
the car.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Could you imagine first responders like rescuing these people and
going to the hospital and they finally start talking and
they say that he intentionally did this on purpose. It's
just it it There's there's other stories coming up. I
don't know if it's in this today's episode or tomorrow's
episode that you think about what these poor doctors have
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to go through in the hospital because you're treating someone
that you you innocently think fell down on vacation, right,
and then all of a sudden you hear these stories.
It must really be hard for the doctors to hear
things like this as well, to know that someone intentionally
hurted some hurt someone like that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, for sure. I Mean the thing is is he's
been suspended from his practice while this is being investigated,
So I really wonder if they're going to turn up,
like if he's had any history of abuse or whatever,
because I mean, this thing, this type of thing, Let's
say that he's innocent in all this, Like this doesn't
go away. Everybody's gonna remember that you're that guy that
(15:55):
pushed his wife off the cliff, even if he didn't
really do it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, it's just it's just kind of sad actually to
think that a person would work. We say this all
the time, like you work so hard to do this,
this great, amazing thing and become a physician with your life,
Like why would you? I guess, I guess it's not
really an argument because it's not like any just because
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someone has a good job doesn't mean that they shouldn't
throw their life away. But anybody shouldn't do anything like this.
It's just it's just really bizarre to me. But it's
it's interesting though, when you hear stories like this, because
especially with domestic violence, like it's not just limited to
a certain socioeconomic group. It goes across all spans of
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the poorest people, the richest people, race it everything like.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's grittiest people, the yeast people.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And it's and you know when you hear I was
listening to an interview with Gabby Petito's parents and talking
about there's just like a lot of interesting things. I'm
glad that they're going on all of these shows and
they're talking about domestic violence and trying to make something
(17:08):
at least educate people and the horrible thing that they
had to experience with their daughter's death. But some of
the signs they were going through the the nine to
one to one or the footage from the Moa Police
Department and talking about just some of these signs that
she was showing when she was talking and things she
was saying, but even hand movements and stuff, And I
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just thought that was so it's so interesting about how
many people it affects, but people obviously don't talk about it.
And so yeah, like once they investigate this particular case too,
I'm sure that they're going to they're going to find
all this stuff out, because that's not you know, if
you're with Ricky on vacation, like he's not just going
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to throw you over the edge. There's like way more
to the story, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Can you imagine being in the surgical bed like about
to undergo anesthesia and the anesthesiologist comes in and is like,
all right, we're gonna like start setting you up, and
it's this person that was in the news for possibly
throwing their.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I mean, no, he's done.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm just saying he gets off as innocent, like you
just don't forever remember his face being associated with this story.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The scary thing is is though that we've talked about
this before. Remember we were talking about that case where
the doctor took out this guy's liver instead of this
guy's spleen yea, And then we found out that there
was another case that he took out the wrong organ
or or something like that there was a major mistake.
The thing is is that oftentimes people don't really research
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the physicians that are doing their procedures and stuff and
really find out like go on medical boards and find
out like if these people have any claims against them
or anything. The scary thing is is like once this guy,
if this guy was able to get off, like you
might not even know about it. As a patient, Yeah,
(19:01):
I mean when you have surgery. At least I've only
had a couple of little procedures here and there, But
like I don't know who the anesthesiologist is going to
be until they come in and they start talking to you.
It's not like you have a choice, do you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
That's what I was just gonna say, Like, let's say
you do do their research, but can you be like, well,
I don't want that person because they had bad press.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like, yeah, I mean, it works like it doesn't Like
I feel like even when I had the kids and stuff.
I mean, and I had two horrible experiences with anesthesia
at both hospitals, but like even I feel like you
just get who's there that day. I don't know that
you have a choice. So it's it's just a really
interesting thing to think about. It's just the same as
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like you get x rays, right, Like you don't get
to pick what radiologists looks at your x rays. You
don't get to pick what pathologist looks at your stuff it.
You know, It's just like that's that's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So yeah, all right, So two years ago, this only
fans chick was performing a fetish session with a client
when he became unresponsive and she had to call nine
one one, And just now two years later, she's being
arrested for his murder. I wonder what's taking so long,
just because so I guess apparently he they you know,
(20:16):
they go through all of the emails and everything in
the correspondence between the people and he had said that
he wanted to get saran wrapped like a mummy with
a pair of woman's boots glued to his feet, which
is these are very interesting requests, and adhesive poured on
into his eyes to seal them shut. That's what he wanted,
(20:38):
and he paid someone eleven thousand dollars to do this
to him. But I guess like that's her thing on OnlyFans.
I didn't even like look into her, But I guess
that's I didn't even really realize OnlyFans models actually like
met the people that they were talking to.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Well, I guess it could.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I guess it could cross as like you know, cam
girl content with like this girl's obviously like a dominatrix
of some sort, right, or maybe she just did dominatrix
like sessions with this guy. So, like you're saying, he
requested for him to be wrapped up in saranne wrap
and have the boots and have pour adhesive onto his
eyes to seal them shut, but he actually ended up
(21:19):
with duct tape over his mouth, a plastic bag over
his head, and more sarane rap around that, and then
duct tape wrapped around his face and head. So basically
he just suffocated.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, but but like, why did it take them so
long to arrest her because there's no other reason that
that that would happen. And really, even even if they
found emails that said I want you to do this
to me, you as a human have a responsibility like
(21:51):
not to kill someone if they ask you to, and
you have to be dumb to know that this wouldn't
kill someone. They have all these warning about plastic bags,
putting it over a baby's head, all this stuff, and
it's like, don't go in a sleeping bag with it
ZIPPERD And you're talking about putting all of that stuff
plus taping it on his head so he can't even
(22:12):
get it off. Well he couldn't anyway, right because his
body was saran wrapped like a mummy. But even if
he asked you to do that and you did it,
you would still be you should still be charged with
with his homicide. I am with you.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I don't understand why this investigation took so long because
it's pretty straightforward. I mean, they could have seen their
communication via email, I feel like, pretty quickly, and it
was obvious what happened, Like what he requested isn't what happened.
And let's say he even requested it the day of
Like she still is responsible in some capacity for it happening,
(22:48):
So like, why did it take two full years? I
would understand a couple of months if they were waiting
to look through like phone records everything like that, but
two years is insane. Well, and they also found a
video on her phone using a vibrator and in the
background he was laying with the plastic bag and saran
wrap on his head. Like, so she was not only
(23:10):
getting paid one thousand, eleven thousand dollars to do this
to him, but then she was making content and also
I guess she was making I don't know if she
was making it for just him or if she was
planning on uploading that content to her OnlyFans page, which
is fine. I mean, if she wants to double dip,
it's fine. The problem is is that she she killed him.
(23:32):
Like I don't really know what else to say. So
I'm glad she finally got did it say? Or she
just got arrested, so we don't even know like what
she's actually getting from this. No, but she's happy in
court like next month, so I'm sure there'll be more
about it. I just I just can't believe they knew
she was there. They knew exactly what happened. It seems
(23:54):
like the medical examiner knew it was a homicide from
the start, So just like what took so long?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No idea.
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Okay, this next, This is outrageous to me, this story,
I really I sent it to one of my friends
who is a transplant nurse and she can't believe it either.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah. So this patient ended up getting a kidney transplant
back in December and then contracted rabies through the donated organ.
Are they not testing for that?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, they're not, but I'll tell you why. There's there's
a reason. So when you if you look up rabies
right now in the United States, how many people get
rabies and die? Because most it's like one hundred percent fatal.
Ten people in the whole entire United States die from
(26:01):
from this every from rabies, every single year. Ten people.
So they're not going to test organs for it because
the chances of somebody getting it are apparently not ever
going to happen because of this. But it's so rare,
I'm sure there's like not even any cases of it,
or if there are, there's not that many of this
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ever happening.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So like, all right, so the person who donated their organs,
so they got rabies obviously, and then how long does
that take to present?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So this is this is what I'm thinking right now.
I'm thinking, when you get bit by an animal that
has rabies, it takes anywhere from three to eight weeks
to start showing signs of the infection. But there's documentation
of this taking days, weeks and even a month to
show up it as an infection. So this person, I'm
(26:56):
thinking that the person that donated the organ could have
possibly been bit by an animal and didn't go to
the hospital and get treatment and get the rabies vaccine
when they went to the hospital and then died, maybe
in a car accident shortly thereafter or within a couple
weeks of that bite, and that's how it went down.
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So the person wasn't having any symptoms yet of rabies,
but had it inside of their body. Because the only
other option is that this person got the transplant and
then went home and got rabies themselves and then died,
and I don't think that's likely because this person had
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the transplant and died within a month. And like we said,
the lowest point of the incubation period is three weeks,
So if you get a transplant, you're in the hospital.
I don't know how long you would be in the
hospital if there was any complications or whatever, but you're
in the hospital for a little while after you get
it transplant, So there wouldn't even have physically been time
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for this patient to go home and interact with an
animal to get bit and then go back to the hospital. Furthermore,
this person lives in Michigan and had the transplant surgery
done in Ohio, and they said that the person died
at the same place where they had the transplant, which
means to me that it's possible that that person never
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even left the hospital after they had the transplant. And
we're exhibiting started exhibiting super weird symptoms that you know,
these these transplant nurses and doctors take care of these
people all the time, and they know what they're looking for,
which is rejection of the organ is the biggest thing,
or infection. And then this person starts showing these symptoms
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that you wouldn't normally see in those types of patients,
including like respiratory arrests and seizures and paralysis and things
that like would be we to happen in a normal
transplant person. And that might be how they were keyed
in that this was happening. So let's say, for example,
the donor had lived another couple weeks, maybe they would
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have started exhibiting the symptoms and been one of the
ten people that died in this country from it, which
is still outrageous to me.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Can you just imagine having the bad look of kindragting
rabees and then dying in a car accident?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
If this is well, yeah, I mean exactly, But I
mean I'm just saying that because the reason I'm saying
a car accident is because if a person went to
the hospital and was exhibiting any of these symptoms, they
would they would not be a candidate for the transplant. Yeah,
so they weren't having anything like this before they died,
(29:48):
and that makes me think, Okay, they just died in
some kind of an accident, like a drop dead situation.
And what they do the Oregon Donor Centers, they determined
there's a different a bunch of different factors. They do
tell for certain bacteria and viruses for sure, but like
common ones. Right, they're not going to test for rabies
because it's not common. They're not going to test for
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polio like they just won't test for like Rando things ebola, like,
come on, it's just not happening, So they test for
the most common ones. Sometimes they look at pieces of
an organ under the microscope to determine if it looks healthy.
They ask a lot of questions to the family and friends,
like were they sick, did they have any of this?
Did they have any of that? And that's it, Like,
(30:30):
I don't think that they did anything wrong here. I
just think this is like such a freak thing. I
just don't see how else it could have possibly happened.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, I do think it's just so it's so weird
to talk about because it's so rare in general, and
then like you just had like everything go wrong at
the exact same moment with this case.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you remember. Back
in September, we talked about a case where there was
this boy that had a bat in his bedroom and
then he ended up dying from raby's and it was
like his parents didn't even know they got the bat
out of the house. The parents didn't even know that
the bat had bit him because they because their teeth
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can leave like pinpoint little marks, and they just didn't
see it. So it's just totally possible that this person
just got that got got bit by an animal. Like
you're you have to go to the hospital when you
get bit by an animal, because they have drugs that
they can give you, and it's it's called post exposure prophylaxis.
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It is nearly one hundred percent effective if it's administered
within forty eight hours of a bite. So getting bit
by an animal and not going and get this getting
this done, I mean sometimes it's like, Okay, if your
dog bites you, and you know your dog's up on
it shots and stuff, then you could be like, all right,
I'm not gonna go, you know. But but really it's
(31:53):
just it's funny because I was just thinking about this. Actually,
do you remember years ago, Lillian was like eighteen months
old and we were at some art show and some
guy was carrying around one of those like Paris Hilton
purse dogs that it had like a Louis Vauton outfit
on that was more expensive than any of the clothes
I was wearing. And it was like a pomeranium, like
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a little tiny, like miniature Pomerani thing, and it bit
Lilian on the hand. It likes. She thought it was
like a doll and like hit it on the face
and it bit her right so and it didn't it
didn't really even hurt her. It just was like a
little nibble thing. But I just took her to the
doctor right away, and and you know, he was just like,
all right, well we have to figure out. So I
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got the guy's information and figured out that the dog
had shots and stuff, because it's like you just I'm like,
I'm sure the dog is up to date on its
shots because it's full out in Louis Vaton and gets
like a SPA treatment every night, right, Sometimes people prioritize
the Vaton outfits over the medical exactly, But so it
all worked out well. But that's that's why they want
to know, because you can get this this Raybi's uh
(33:02):
you know, the post exposure PROFILACCECS and and it will
prevent you from from getting it. So because rabies is
one hundred percent fatal, like there's barely there's a couple
people that have survived in history, a couple people like
you don't want it ever, so it's just better to
get it treated. And I just I guess this is
just like one of I don't even I don't even
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know that you could even plan something like this. I
just don't see how else it's possible.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
This is a storyline on nineteen twenty three right now,
where that girl we were talking about a couple of
weeks ago that like has so much like botox and fillers.
She's like not believable at all. Her character like gets
bit by a wolf that has Raybi's and she has
to get these insane you know how they like make
needles from back then look so crazy in TV and movies.
(33:52):
But it's just this horrible thing that she has to get.
Like every episode I hate watching it. She looks just horrible.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
The thing is is that back in the day, rabies
used to be an issue and it's one of these
really cool things where animal medicine and human medicine came
together and got it under control. And it's mostly because
of vaccinating the animals. But then it's also when people
get exposed, because like every there's no point of every
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single person getting vaccinated for that, because why add another
one of the thousands that we need to get anyway, right,
But like if you're at a higher exposure, like people
that work at vet offices and stuff. They should be
protected against that because there's a very high risk they're
going to get bit by an animal. Right, But it's cool,
like it used to be really present in dogs, even
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back in the day before the vaccinations and stuff. So
it's it really has gone away and it's not killing
thousands of people every year like it used to. And
now it's just ten. And one of these ten just
so happened to donate an organ and it sucks actually
because the guy got a second chance at life and
got a kidney and then he died anyway because of
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rabies of all. Like it's so.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Outrageous, all right, So let's get onto this last story,
which this one is truly one of the most unbelievable
ones for me, which is the sixty six year old
woman in Germany has given birth to her tenth child vs.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Section, Like, why would you even want to have a
baby when you're sixty six? I just don't. I can't
wrap my brain around it.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
It looks like she had two children when she was younger,
and then since she turned fifty three she's had eight kids,
including twins, And I.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Mean, is she married and stuff, like her husband's on
board with this too, or what's happening there.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I mean, there wasn't really much background on her other
than the fact that she's a museum director. But I
don't know why you would choose to do this. I mean,
she was saying that she wanted a large family and
all this stuff, and she made sure to let everybody
know she did not use any reproductive technologies to conceive
the children.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But I just think it's crazy. It's possible because you
can get something that's like late onset menopause. I mean,
think about even there's such a variety of a window
of when women could go into menopause, right, so think
about when you were a kid even and get in
your period. It's like I knew kids that got it
when they were eight years old, and like my mom
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got hers when she was seventeen years old. It's just
a huge variation in ages. And you know, they'll call
it precocious or late set puberty and everything like that.
But when you're talking about menopause, it's considered anything after
fifty five years old is considered to be late on set.
But I found a really cool case actually of this
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sixty five year old lady that went to the er
after she had a cerebral vascular accident, so like a
stroke or something like a mini stroke or something. And
when she was getting examined, they noted that she had
vaginal bleeding and they consulted gynecology and they talked to
her and when she got interviewed, she was like, yeah,
I still get my period, and they were like, eh,
(37:01):
are you sure. And because when a woman, it is
in her sixties, sixty five year old woman is bleeding,
they consider that to be like it's a it's a
bad sign and it could be a sign of endometrial
cancer or something like that. So they interviewed her and
she was like, no, I still get my period. So
they wanted to check because they're like, eh, you could
have been bleeding for a while and you might have
(37:23):
like uterine cancer or something like that. And sure enough,
like her blood work, her hormones were checked and they
were at the pre menopausal range at sixty five years old.
So it's yeah, it's it's it's really interesting, right, So
I mean it sounds terrible to an extent because listen, like,
just because I'm a person that's kind of going through
(37:43):
that right now. I always was like I can't wait
till I get my stop getting my period, and now
that like, I'm I really haven't had it much in
the past two years. I'm like, I kind of wish
I had it back because I felt like at least
it was like very regular, like every whatever it is,
twenty eight days or whatever, you get it, and you
would know that you would feel like shit for a
couple of days, but then you would know it would
(38:03):
go away. And now it's just like all of that
is kind of all over the place, and I just
hate that. But just thinking about bleeding like a period
at sixty five years old just sounds terrible to me.
But this, so this is what could have possibly happened
with this lady, that she just that she still is ovulating,
And I mean, after you're forty five years old, they're
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like the chances of you having a baby naturally just
diminish even after thirty five. Really, so it's it's totally
possible that she's not lying about that.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
No, I don't think she's lying about it. But I'm
like sitting here as a thirty year old, like I
don't even want to put my body at thirty years
old through the process of giving birth right, let alone
having a sea section, let alone having eight sea sections,
Because isn't that an incredibly intense surgery. It's not just
like yeah, and you risk you risk that every single
time just opening up that wound again, and you could
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you could have complications associated with that and adhesions like
when your organs stick to your other organs, and like
in the case of the C section, it could be
like your uterus could stick to the front of your
abdominal wall and it could cause a lot of problems.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Like the thing is is that you know so many
people that have babies and stuff, and if you ask
them all their experiences, everyone has a different one. Some
people just don't think pregnancy is like that big of
a deal all at all, and they just go about
their life and pop the kid out and then they're
just like find the whole time. And other women are like,
this is the worst thing ever. I don't want to
(39:36):
do this again. And it's like for me, like, I
don't think it was the greatest thing ever. I'm kind
of neutral about it, like I I mean, I'm just
like older now, so I wouldn't consider it. But it
wasn't the worst thing ever. But also it wasn't I
didn't think it was great. Like momm thinks it was
the best thing ever being pregnant. She thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh my god, I can't believe that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
But you see people all the time that are just
that are just like, yeah, this is great, like and
they gain like twenty pounds the whole time, and they're
exercising the whole time, and like, no, I just like
there's certain things about that. I mean, it's a good experience,
of course, but like so, but some people just I mean,
(40:21):
she's kind of like, Okay, I'm sixty six, and I'm
gonna see if this could happen, and if it happens,
like she just is, she's on the news now right
for it?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Right, I mean, can I just say something a little controversial,
Like I keep seeing all this press about how awesome
it is that Robert de Niro, who's eighty one years old,
has this baby, right, and how he's such a great dad,
And I'm like, is it not selfish to have a
child when you're eighty years old, like giving them basically
(40:50):
no life with you.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
But like this woman we're talking about sixty six, Like
my grandmam died when she was ninety nine, so I
mean technically, like this lady could live in other thirty
years and like that's.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, but what's the likelihood she's gonna live in another
thirty years?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Because like what's that?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
She seems like she's healthier than I am, for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I just think it's this weird thing, and like if
you want to do it, do whatever you want. I
just think it's like bizarre when you want to have
a kid when you're in your fifties and sixties and
seventies and like Robert de Niro in your eighties. You know,
it's just bizarre to me.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, but then like what are you going to make
a magic age? It's the same thing as telling people
they can't have you know what. People of course, like listen,
I'll sit there and be the first to be like
this lady's a moron, and so are people that have
twenty kids and everything like that. But like it's not
my life, so I don't care. Right, it's you can't
put an age because because that's you just can't do that.
(41:50):
That's like one of your free rights as a human
being is to have children. Like whenever you want and right.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, I guess it's just a thought had because they've
been seeing all this stuff like I don't even know why,
Robert and keeps popping up like a news cycle. The
way that you're saying it is like, like I understand
what you're saying, but it's because like most people have this,
Most people, I would say, have this idea of what
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an ideal life for a child should be. But that
doesn't mean that other children's life are not as valid,
because then you're getting into sl like then people would say, okay,
and well, actually people have said and do say, when
you're a teenager and you get pregnant that you should
(42:38):
automatically get an abortion because what kind of life would
that kid have? And like you're a prime example of that, right, So, so,
like you definitely didn't have what would be considered an
ideal life as a child because your mom and dad
weren't together, and you lived at the house with your grandparents,
and your uncle is almost like your brother and like
just some weird backwood shit, right, But but like you
(43:01):
add a good life and you're a successful adult, and
that doesn't mean that like your life wasn't worth being
born because you weren't born into an ideal situation, and honestly,
like if you just look around at everyone, you know,
there's a lot of kids that are living in situations
that you're like, that's probably not the best thing for
the kid, but they're they're fine. I guess my mind,
(43:22):
I don't even think about it when it comes to
terms with like our situation with you having me so young.
I think I go there to it being selfish because
I immediately think like eighty years old equals death soon
equals like this, And I know that's I know that's
like insane to think that way, but I just it
always crosses my mind, like these people are having kids
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so old and then like their kid has no life
with them. And obviously, in Robert de Niro's case, for example,
he has the means to give this kid a really
good life, but that's the thing for case they don't.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
With famous people though, Like if you when you hear
about some of the way these people live, it's like
they're they're kids. Do you think like Kardashian's kids really
have much of a life with them, like really, Like
I know that you show it on TV and this
and that, but like how much time are they actually,
Like if you think about a traditional parent that's getting
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their kids from school and coming home and sitting down
and doing their homework and going to their sports games
and doing this and doing that, Like a lot of
these famous parents aren't like very involved like that anyway.
There's always like some nanny with them all the time, this, that,
and the other. They might not even like go to school.
They might like I'm sure some of them travel with them,
but I think that a lot of them they're just
(44:39):
in this kind of life that other people take care
of the children. So it's like, so when de Niro dies,
like who cares? Because he could just pay someone and
leave money in his will for someone else to take
care of the kid. And really the kid's mom is
is like thirty or something, right.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, I guess my my greater problem is when people
we are like I'm not talking about women that are.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Like forty having a baby. I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Women that are like, so what this lady, what you're.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
What's you're cut off age? Then when you're going to
Congress to put forth this time Congress, I'm just saying like,
and then you could say you could say the same
thing like oh, okay, if you work and you make
fifteen dollars an hour, like you have no business having
a kid because you can't afford it, like and that
it's not it's not like no, well you can't say that,
(45:30):
Like I don't think I'm articulating my thoughts correctly on
this one.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
We're like really deep into this conversation by now.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Well, it's because it's it's it's interesting, it's interesting to
talk about.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Like, well, I think it plays into my greater problem
with people having like kids to check a box. So
like I would all right, like this is where I'm thinking,
but I group these people that are that are elderly
having babies in the same box as people that have
kids us for like Facebook photos that are under the
carav a nanny twenty four to seven, Like you're saying,
(46:05):
like it's just selfish to have kids just to have kids,
not because like.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, well it's just life. You could feel that way
all you want, but if you really boil it down,
like a lot of people aren't having kids for the
right reasons, So I don't think most people are actually
Like if you sat there and were like this kid
was born in a situation that like both parents were
done with their education and they own their house already,
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and their student loans were paid off, and they were
married and and this, that and the other, and then
they had this kid that they planned for it. You'd
be like, that's one percent of the population, Like most
people are like getting knocked up all over the place.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Like it's realistic either that, Like that's a thing, you
know what I mean? Yeah, I'm talking about like people
that strictly have no interest at all in said child,
but go ahead pro creating them anyway. Like, well, kids
are born of all different circumstances, but they end up
in loving SAIDs. They don't have to have like the
most ideal situation obviously.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I think that like in society, like it's most there's
a lot of pressure to have children, and it takes
a lot for a person to say, like, you know what,
I don't really think I like being around kids and
I don't want to have them. And a lot of
people get pressure from their family and stuff, and a
lot of times you think that you're going to have
a kid. Every person that that is doesn't have a
(47:28):
kid thinks they're going to be the best person, the
best parent ever and then you have the kid and
then you're like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Like this
is really hard and some people just don't enjoy it,
and other people think maybe like I lucked out because
I feel like I don't really enjoy being around other people,
like around kids a lot. Like if me and Gabe
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go on a date, I don't want to sit anywhere
near a table that has children, Like I just I
don't want it. I don't I don't care. I think
I'm a dickhead whatever, Like I just don't like that.
I don't want to be around kids like that. I
do have love for my friends' kids because they're like
they're almost like cousins to my kids. They're like family
to me, you know, But like in general, I'm not
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a person that's just like, oh, your kid is so cute,
Like I just don't really I'm not really attached like that.
But I mean, for me, like, let's pretend I didn't
have any kids, I would take the chance and be like, well,
hopefully I'll love my kids. I know, I don't really
like kids, but like I might like my I should
like mine because they're mine, and I do luckily, But
like sometimes I think people have the kids and they
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they never get that bond. They're just kind of like
not into it. And you see, like me and Gabe's
life all the time, it's just like we're kind of
it's like kids, kids' kids all the time. And some
people don't want to give up the like going out
to dinner at nine o'clock and hanging out with their
friends on the beach and this and that. Like so
so people like resent their kids them when they have them. Yeah,
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I think I'm ultra is the biggest This is like
the biggest rant.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I know. I'm just gonna say, like, I think I'm
just so ultra sensitive to this because of writing up
a Ruby Frank for the last two weeks and just
being like, I don't think she had kids for the
purpose of having a YouTube channel. But then we see,
you know that other chick that adopted that Huxley child
for content specifically, and you're just like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
It's just so Yeah, that's interesting with the with the
family content creators because it seems like the fame of
all of it just kind of goes through their head
a little bit. And I really think when you even
hear about the Ruby Frank story, Like when you hear
about the beginning of their life, it seemed like it
probably was something that she wanted and was into. And
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then as soon as she started getting famous and like
all this weird stuff happened with meeting that person and
this and that, like it just like whatever tendency she
had to be like a meaner sterner mom turned into
something super pathologic. And you see that sometimes in I mean,
we have a couple of cases like that with these
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family vlog people.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, well I don't know if that rant was worth
going on, and it probably didn't make sense to our listeners,
but it happens now that yeah exactly what.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Well, No, I think it'll make sense. I think it'll
make sense to people because the first instinct you always
have is like they people shouldn't do that, but like
it's just it's it's just like not fair to be
like that.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
No, And I guess that's what you could judge.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
You could judge just I don't mind judging people. It's
more like when you then we know you don't mind
judging people, but but like I judge people, but I
would never like say, oh, there should be laws against
like like people could do whatever they want to do.
I'm against a lot of things people do, but but
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I feel like they should have that right to do it.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Exactly. I'm in the mindset of do whatever you want.
But like, I'm not going to go to Congress and
be like, you need to put this like a on
people that have children, like that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
But I'm not gonna sit.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Here and act like it isn't strange to me.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
But all right, I.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Guess we should move on to the questions now, because
we just went on like a fifteen minute rant about nonsense.
All right, Every Friday at the ap mother knows that
the Instagram account, you guys can head over to our
story and ask us whatever you want. First questions from
friend of the pod lar Lee.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I knew this question was from her. I knew it.
I knew it.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
She said, how many car accidents are caused because of
those stupid road signs with the witty sayings, Oh my God,
Explain this to people that don't live in New Jersey,
because I don't know if this happens everywhere it does happen.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I feel like I saw it on my trip, maybe
in Ohio, so there, so New Jersey put forth this campaign,
which just drives me freaking crazy because, like, my tax
dollars are being spent on this that they put up.
You know those signs that they put that say the
electric signs that'll say like road closed or right or
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something like that. It'll it's one of those signs. And
now they put these sayings on them to try to
get people to like not drink and drive, or to
put their seap out on or to not text and drive.
There's all these messages they put on it. And I
guess the thing that really makes me the most mad
of it is that, you know, you think about all
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of these people in Congress and stuff like sitting around
and making this law, and just how much money these
this campaign actually costs. And the worst part is that
the signs are terrible. They're just they're not funny, they're terrible.
I wish I had an example of one.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Now I have an example of my favorite one that
was circulating a couple months ago. Are you ready for it? Yeah,
it's from California. Do not touch your partner's private part
well he or she is driving?
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Is that real?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (52:53):
So ours? Like ours? That's possible that that would say,
I don't think that that's real. It doesn't sound real
because a child could read that and that's not appropriate.
But I probably could look through my test. Here's some
I'm looking right now.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
So they're like they're usually like like they make ones
that are applicable to the shore because we live near
the shore, and it'll just and they rhyme and they're
just terrible, and you're like, they can't find any like
I want.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
To sit down and write them and send them in,
like a bunch of wittier things that would be quirky
and funny.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
All right, ready, no, no, Valentine, your seatbelt will hold you.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yes, that is one I saw. There was one for
there's one for Saint Patrick's Day. And there's definitely like
shore related ones about like there was something about a
shark bite or something. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Only Rudolph should be lit, drive high, get DUI.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, just they're so dumb. So yes, Lara, So me
and Laura are constantly talking about those signs. So when
I read that, I was like, either she sent this
question in or I'm gonna call her right after this
and be like, dude, someone else hates this too.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
I've never it's just so bad and like with chat
GBT existing, like you really can't come up with better ones.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
There was one. There was one with the Grinch.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
At Christmas Tamer.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
I probably have them because I feel like me and
Laura sent them to each other. But they were Yeah,
they were terrible, and like I'm sure there was there was.
They have another campaign going on too, about like texting
and driving and motorcyclists on the streets and not hitting them.
And it's like you hear these commercials all the time
and they're like, what if you didn't text it and
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you didn't hit the person, you would change their life.
Now this message has been life changing, You're like, no,
it hasn't. Actually, nobody is listening, like this is terrible.
This is the only thing that it's just I don't
I just don't understand.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Remember in Barrington there was that lumber place. It's like
a brewery.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Now, yeah, that dude should write them because he's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Wait, I have two of them from twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
So this was like a random like lumber place, family
owned place though, and he used to write hilarious things.
It would just be like, well I saw one on
a church once that was just like if you give
Satan an inch, he'll become a ruler. Oh my god,
like things like that, like a local church. But I
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like guys they're like funny, like.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
One of him says, ever tried groundhog kind of tastes
like hamster like, so random on a sign and then wait,
I have a Valentine's Day one too. I just have
to find it. But like when we're talking about we
don't need witty road signs, we understand, how you know?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, And I feel like, like Lar's point, they probably
cause people to like that's the thing with these things
that they put forth, there's no metrics to determine if
they're actually doing anything.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
All right, So his Valentine's one says, be our Valentine.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
We have hardwood. Yeah, that one was good.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, But the ones around here, they're just they're so
bad that they're funny. And I don't know if that's
their goal, but I don't. I would say they probably
aren't causing car actent.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I just the reason I get mad is because like
I just picture like corporate meetings and like some woman
in a business woman special with or like high heels
that you know, the type that carry their sneakers to
work with them and stuff, and like just walking around
and be like, Okay, guys, like around this big mahogany desk.
I mean, anytime I see this one, anytime I see
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a bad commercial or billboard or something like that, I'll
say to Ricky like, do you know how many people
had to approve this? It is true? It's ridiculous, all right.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Second question, when doing an autopsy, can you tell if
somebody has broken bones if they have healed? Yeah, So
when we do an autopsy, we don't typically examine bones
to the point where we would be able to see that,
except maybe when we open the abdominal cavity. We could
really see the spine pretty well and the ribs, So
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if someone had a broken rib previously, we could see
evidence of that for sure. If you're talking about a
leg or something like that, that would be a little
bit more iffy because we don't typically dissect the tissue
off off of long bones like the legs or the
arms like that, so we wouldn't see it grossly unless,
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of course, let's say, for example, someone found human bones
in a wood in the woods, they would get a
forensic anthropologist to look at the bones, and that those
scientists for sure would be able to look at the
bones and be able to determine if there was previously
healed fractures, but like we wouldn't actually be looking at
them for our purposes. And then obviously though, like we
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have access to x ray at autopsy, so if we
put someone, if we x rayed someone, we would be
able to determine if they had a previous broken bone,
just because when a bone breaks, and this just depends,
like especially in abuse cases and stuff, because sometimes like
kids will get abused and then the parents or the
people that are abusing them don't take them to the hospital,
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so their bones don't heal properly like you would if
you went and got a cast put on. So it
has very specific looks to the bones or any people.
If sometimes people break a rib and they don't really
realize it or something like that just has like a
different appearance. So yeah, in that case, if we image
the body, we would be able to see it as well.
(58:31):
All right, last, what lunch do you typically have on
a workday?
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Like when we're recording, I just I just housed like
fifty seedless peppers and I'm about to go eat goat
cheese in a bowl. Well, yesterday we have nothing goods yesterday,
Well yesterday wasn't really considered a workday, no, but we
had craped y.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
But when we're sitting here, I just like I just
eat like little things. But we like, I cook dinner
almost every night, and we have a pretty big dinner
every night. So I just try to kind of like
snack on things throughout the day, you know, coffee, little
things here and there, and then at dinner all like
house a lot of food. So I just like, we
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don't really have time when we're recording and stuff, but
a few minutes to just like inhance something real quick.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah, Like I'll usually just have leftovers or if I
have something in the freezer, I could just pop in
the air fryer real quick, or on a desperate day,
just a bowl of cereal or like toast, and then
I'll just cook dinner early.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Well, I forgot I got those things that I got
a box for myself at Trader Joe's, those coconut ball things.
I wanted to try them, but I don't want to
hear it. I don't want to hear it. They're delicious Okay,
that's all I want to say. Maria's husband says they
they taste or smell like, so I just don't even
want to think about it because I'm not going to
want to eat it now.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
I'm not saying that on here because I think they're
delicious and here being ridiculous. All right, guys, well, thank
you so much. Please leave us a five star written
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Saya, thank you for listening to Mother NOO's Death. As
a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I
have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and
pathology education. I am not a doctor and I have
not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the
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Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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