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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
On today's episode, we're going to talk about an update
on a story we brought you a few months ago
about a TikTok creator slash family influencer whose son drown
a Tesla lawsuit after a man driving a cyber truck
died in a fire that was so hot it caused
his bones to disintegrate, a freak accident among two dumb
(00:44):
friends that has now turned into murder charges, a woman
who is vegan against her will, and tattoo eyeliner regrets
all that and more. On today's episode, Let's start with
this TikTok influencer update.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So Emily Kaiser, who we've discussed on a couple of episodes.
She is the influencer whose son drowned a couple of
months ago, and I guess the last time we talked
about it was they were considering pressing felony child abuse
charges against her husband, but we still didn't really know
exactly what went down.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So she's finally.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Spoken out since the death, taking all the responsibility. She
had talked about how valuable pool fence would have been.
And a little bit more information is coming out about
what went down with the husband as well.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, so apparently the husband's telling of events was a
little bit different than what the investigation showed. He had
said that the son had been so he was home
with their newborn son as well as their toddler son,
while the mom was out with her friends, and he
(01:50):
was watching sports apparently, and had said he lost sight
of the sun for a few minutes. And here when
they looked at the cameras and everything, it appeared that
the sun was in the backyard for a total of
nine minutes unattended. Two minutes into him being in the
backyard outside, apparently he was playing on an inflatable toy
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like a float or something like that slipped off it
unintentionally fell into the pool and was in the pool
for a total of seven minutes, trying to keep himself
above water, not knowing how to swim. And he didn't
die on the scene. He was brought to the hospital
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because he was found unconscious, but it was too late
and he died. So apparently when they looked at the cameras,
they saw that he was outside way longer than the
dad thought, And when they checked the dad's phone and
saw what he was doing, it was he was sports betting.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I mean, so the sports bet he did place
an hour before the incident went down, but he was
watching an NBA final game and I'm love see.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
If the person was going to win, so he would win. Yeah,
so you know what I mean, Like he was trying
to see if, like his bet was going to make
him money. Well yeah, I mean, he could have just
been watching the game too out of interest and happened
to bet on it. But I love this article saying
he was watching his children. They're your fucking children. You're
not watching them.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You're at home with them, just as the mother would
be at home with them, right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So that that's.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Just a total side note because that drives me crazy
when they're like, oh, is your husband babysitting your children?
There's no babysitting at your child.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The terminology is annoying.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
But I mean, I guess they were just trying to
say that they were on his watch.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, so he was clearly distracted. And I think at
first he was saying it was only moments, not even minutes,
that the kid was gone, But as we now know,
it was almost ten full minutes that the kid was unattended,
and this unfortunately happened. I was saying this yesterday with
the Hershey Park episode the story weird to ten minutes
is an extremely long time for a child like that
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to be unattended.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, And I mean, like it's being a dead horse
at this point, like obviously you shouldn't have a child
anywhere near a swimming pool that's not locked up, right,
And we know from her own she admitted it that
that she was responsible.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean, I do.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I do like that part of her statement that she's
accepting blame for it, because I mean, while while it
is her fault, it's her fault for not having defence,
it's their fault, the family that owns the house, the
mom and the dad's fault. But honestly, like if they
(04:50):
had that, things would have turned out better. But ultimately her.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Husband's at fault. Well, he is the one that was being.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
In fact, they were planning on filing charges against him
and they decided not to because they didn't think anything
would come of it. But he fell in the category
of being able to be charged with with that, with
neglect and putting the child in a dangerous situation that
leaded that led it to death. Now, one thing that
(05:21):
I've always thought about that with this case is like,
if this was a babysitter, like an actual babysitter that
they paid, and this happened, and she was playing on
her phone on TikTok and the same exact thing happened,
she would be getting in trouble. So so you have
to think, like, Okay, this is his kid, and obviously
he didn't want the kid to die, but like, it's
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an offense that would get a person into trouble.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, I mean that's why they probably suggested the charges.
But maybe they think a jury's not going to see
it the same way and think that the punishment and
office losing the kid exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean I had a lot more sympathy when I
thought that maybe he got distracted by the newborn, like
freaking out or something like that. Right, not that it
makes it more acceptable, but like you could understand it
a little better. But to know that he was just
watching basketball while this kid's drowning in the backyard, it's just,
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you know, accidents happened, and this was an accident.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But it's just it's hard to put yourself in an
accepting place with it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So I do like that she's taking her part of
the blame on it as far as saying, and I
have some of the actual things that she has said,
she you know she wants. She did say that he
is our baby and our best friend, which I think
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is interesting terminology because he is not longer living.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So but like I.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Said, however, you have to I've always said that about
like especially losing a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
However, you have to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I like that she said I take full accountability and
I should have done more to protect him, and that's
that's definitely true. But I don't like that this statement
doesn't really have the husband's involvement in it, because it
almost seems like she's taking the blame all of it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, she's going.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
To take the blame because she's the face of their
family on social media. But I also be surprised if
they serve if their marriage survived this. I mean, in general,
a lot of people say that marriages don't survive the
loss of a child, and especially when it's due to
the negligence of one parent. I just I would be
shocked if they made it through this. Seriously, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's really hard to say because like, obviously I've never
been through anything like that, but I can't imagine being
through an event like that that I would ever trust. Like, listen,
do you think that she's ever going to be able
to leave that child with anyone again? Like, how could
(08:05):
you ever trust? Especially him? Now She's going to be like, oh,
I have to have my mom here to watch the
kid all the time because I don't trust you with
the kid, right. I would just never ever leave a
child alone with him to every single time she goes
to the door, she's going to be checking her phone
frantically to make sure everything's okay. I mean, like, that's
(08:25):
trauma that she dealt with, and I don't know how
she's going to get over that. But she just I
see that she's making a set up that her new
thing is going to be like how to handle grief.
That's going to be her new platform to all of
her followers. So she just wanted to like let them
know that she's coming back basically, which is fine whatever,
Like she could do whatever she wants to do. I
(08:47):
just think something interesting that she said in the statement
was seeing through this tragedy that she noticed that there
was a lack of boundaries online and protecting child's a
child privacy and moving forward, she's going to.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Work on that.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, Like, yeah, that's we say that all the time
about these like child children that are kind of getting
used in a way for their parents' social media.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, I think this would have been a story regardless
with his passing, but I think considered, oh, nobody would
have primarily no, like, there would have been at least
a like this person who's a notable influencer's son died,
but it wouldn't have blown up to such proportions because
he was a main character on her I.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
S were saying.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I thought you were saying, like just in general, if
I mean, because like kids drowned, this happens all the time,
and it would it would have been half a news story.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
But she has she has a large following, so the
passing of her child, whether he was featured or not,
would have inevitably been on at least one news site
that it happened. But because he was such a main
player with her whole shtick, that's why it blew up
in the way it did because people know. I mean,
he was basically an influencer himself.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
If you want to look at it and like it's
just weird because she's she's like a mom influencer and
that's what's going on behind. Like I would argue that
mommy bloggers are the worst fucking mothers on the planet.
I have not I've yet to see one that actually
is being a good bob.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I mean they're probably something, but.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Listen, I don't know any personally, but I would I
would say a similar thing because like I I do,
I half do the influencer thing because I hate I
hate it and do the bare minimum. But I can't
imagine if I was doing videos every single day like
a lot of these people are multiple a day. They're like,
(10:43):
I'm a mom and I live in it. Like you
just you can't. You can't do both and be present
for both. It's just not it's not possible. And like
having the camera in your kid's face for every one
of their moves, it's just like it's not natural. I
don't post a ton of pictures because my phone is
either not on my body or on or is in
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my pocket. You know that, Like when I see my
kids and stuff, and they're doing stuff. I like to
like experience the moment myself and not behind a camera
because I want to show other people and having the
camera in their face all the time like that. It's
just like that there's and we know, like look at
like the Instagram and the podcast. You guys only see
(11:27):
us for a few hours a week, but there's more
that go hours that go on behind.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The scenes of this.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Hours and hours, you know what I mean, just to
make Instagram posts, make social media posts, do this, make
the YouTube video, all this stuff, prep for it, look
for stories.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All this.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So like just knowing that as as a person that
kind of does this, it's just like the whole entire
day is scheduled around you doing videos of the kids.
Like anybody that's listening right now that has kids knows
that kids don't they don't cooperate, they don't want to
do it. Like remember the kids were talking to us
(12:04):
that they they said they wanted to do it. They
were they wanted to do like some kind of YouTube
videos to go along with our thing, and I was
just like no, no, because then once it becomes you,
it becomes a job for everyone that's around it's a
job and then you're not yourself and you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know all of it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So I'm just I'm just like not a fan of it.
And you see, like like you almost see where this
can get you, and it's just it's just terrible. It's
terrible for them, like not thinking that they don't love
their kids, because I'm sure they sure they do. It's
just like it's not let the fame get to your
head in a way, and it's just like like you
(12:44):
like you fuck up everything because of it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I just I don't know. It's not a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's not about loving them or not. It's just about
the distraction element, which we see in this case, it's
distract The phones are distracting to everyone. And it's just
like I have to make a conscious effort to like
put it out of my sight because it's just like
second nature to just pick it up fifty times and
check it. You see people doing you go out to
(13:08):
a restaurant, Like, go out to a restaurant, right and
just look around for a second at what you're looking at.
Like people aren't even talking to each other.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They're on their phones.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's it's absolutely insane. Yeah, And like it's people don't
even realize they're doing it. This guy didn't even realize,
like when he told police. I honestly don't think he
was trying to cover his ass. He just did not
realize that, like for ten minutes he was zoned out
on his phone and the TV and not on the kid.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, yeah, I like to check it out.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I don't think he intentionally did it, which is probably
why they ended up dropping the charges. But like you
still need to like reel it back and be like, well,
what happened that this was allowed to go on? Yeah, Okay,
So a family issuing Tesla after their loved one got
in an accident in his cyber truck and burned alive
to the point where his bones disintegrated.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I feel like it's a little this is a little
bit of an exaggeration. Why Because if I.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Say to you someone's bones disintegrated, like you would think
it would be like a cremation, right, yeah, or just
that's not That's not what happened. This is this is
just like this is a fire death. This is certain
things that happened during the fire death. Now, one thing
I'll say is that I guess the family is saying,
(14:27):
and I don't know if this is true, but apparently
once the electricity cuts on these cars, and it might
not just be the Cyberchuck, it might be any Tesla.
Once the electricity cuts, you can't open the door from
the inside or the outside. If that's true, then this
lawsuit is completely valid. But is it true. I don't
(14:51):
know if it's true. I'm saying that that's just like
I just think that that's dumb, like that that would
even that there would be a situation. The problem is
with with a Tesla or electric vehicle is that they
have batteries and they burned at very high temperatures. And
we talked about that on multiple episodes here about how
you know my husband's a firefighter. We talked about it
(15:12):
with him, We talked about it with a Fascinelli from
New York. We did a whole episode about these lithianion
batteries and things and how they burn at higher temperatures
and they're just they're harder fires to put out in
general for firefighters. So of course, if a cyber truck
crashes and it catches on fire, it's going to burn
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it a way higher temperature than a gasoline fire from
a regular car, and you know, you could cremate a
human body at one hundred or fourteen hundred degrees over
the course of two to three hours into ash basically,
or into like little crumbles of bone and stuff. They're
saying that this fire was five thousand degrees, So even
(15:55):
if he was in there for a short period of time,
he wasn't cremated because of the condition of the body.
That was explained by the medical examiner. But his bones
had effects of what you would see of a person
that died in a high temperature situation. So they he
appeared to have shrank in size because the soft tissues
(16:17):
start to shrivel up, the bones can fracture and cause
him to appear to be shorter. But so I guess
you could say whenever anybody dies in a fire. This
is actually what the forensic Friday that I talked about
last week was. When any it's it's it's unlike anything
you see in any other autopsy because as far as
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traumatic wounds go, because the fire temperature causes very specific
looking things to the body, not only to the soft tissues,
but to the bones too, to the brain. My specific
article this week for forensic Friday was what happens if
a dead body is in a fire? What does what
does the brain look like? How do you tell the
difference between someone who fell and hit or their head
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versus someone that just died in the fire and was
exposed to temperatures that high.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, So.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's that's kind of a normal thing you would expect
to see in a death like this. The lawsuit, So
he gets in an accident, and I would assume didn't
see this in writing that because they were able to
get toxicology and they were able to determine the condition
of his bones, I would assume that the medical examiner
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also determined that he died as a result of the
fire versus got in an accident and had some kind
of hand injury and then he was dead and then
his body burned. There's just a difference because they're saying
he burned alive, and you could tell that at autopsy
by looking at the trachea. You could see if they're
soot inside of there, to see if the person was
(17:52):
inhaling fire fumes basically, and also you could test if
they were able to get toxicology, they possibly could test
carbon monoxide levels as well, okay, So my.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Butt earlier was that they're arguing that the doors couldn't
be opened because the power was off on the car.
But I was gonna make the point of they just
kind of slipped in this article that he had also
been really drunk at the time he was driving. So
let's say you get in an accident and the cars
lock up, and there are safety mechanisms within the vehicle
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to get out and kind of override those settings. But
what if you're too drunk that you can't figure it out,
and that's why you get trapped in the car.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And that's why this whole situation to me is like
Nolan Voyd, because the guy was drunk driving, and you know,
I have absolutely no tolerance for this.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Now his lawyer.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Is stating that that's just because he had alcohol in
his system. Now I couldn't find his actual blood alcohol level,
and that is important because if he was the way
they worded it was that he had alcohol in his system.
But they're also going after the bar for overserving him.
So you can legally sanial you could legally have alcohol
(19:08):
in your system. So are they saying that the amount
of alcohol in his system was an illegal because like,
if the guy had a glass of wine, you're allowed
to do that. Your blood alcohol is low, you're allowed
to drive on that. Or was he like piss ass drunk?
I don't know because we don't have the levels.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, but how would they be able to go after
the bar for overserving him if his levels.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Were well, So that's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So so you want to blame everybody except the person
that actually ingested the alcohol, Right, So this guy drives
piss ass drunk crashes and they're saying the lawyer is
basically saying, we acknowledge that he had alcohol in his system,
but that quote that shouldn't sign his death warrant. Well,
(19:54):
actually yes it should. And that's exactly what you do
when you get into the car when you're piss ass drunk,
like he.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Might he probably lud kill someone else if.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, he wasn't drunk driving, yes, And like that's why
I'm just like this kind of doesn't It doesn't. Like
the whole entire lawsuit to me is like Nolan void. Now,
this is a situation though that like a person that
was driving their kids to school that was totally sober
could crash and if they're trapped in the car, that's
(20:27):
that's a problem. That's a huge problem. Well yeah, I
don't know, like what the deal with that is. So
if I mean, this is the thing, like he if
this is true that you can't get out of the
car because the electricity is cut off, this guy's family's
gonna get a ton of money because of this lawsuit
for bringing awareness to it, and like like should they
(20:51):
shouldn't they whatever? But like I don't know, it's kind
of messed up to think that a person's family is
gonna make like all of this money because they're fair
family member was drunk driving and luckily they didn't hurt
anybody else. But like you really don't deserve it when
you're driving like that and putting yourself and others at risk.
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I mean, what if he wasn't in a Tesla and
he died, then what You're just gonna just going to
see the bar then, right, So it's like it has
to be somebody else's fault. Like I don't I just
don't like that shit. I don't like I don't like
not taking self responsibility for things. So I'm just I'm curious,
Like you have a point, like if if the bar
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is if they're saying he got overserved, then then right there,
that tells me that his alcohol level was was way
too high to be driving.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Because you would have nothing to go after the bar.
And otherwise, if you just had one glass, how do
you even know how one?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Like for me, one glass of.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Wine is a problem, but like for most people, it's
not especially a man, So it had to be somewhat
substantial otherwise how could they possibly go after it?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Shit, just it just makes me mad, Like it just
makes me mad. But it also, I mean, it is
concerning because because a lot of people have these I
don't know, Like I feel like, is this the first
time that a tesla has caught on fire like or
has lost electricity like that that a person would be
trapped inside Because.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They cited another accident that happened a couple months after this,
where college students had burned alive in cyber truck for
getting after getting an accent. But I don't know all
the details of that. And the car has been recalled
a couple of times, but most cars have, and I'm
not saying that the cyber truck didn't have this problem.
I'm just saying we can't overlook the fact that he
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was also drunk driving.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Could we also just make a side note too, Like
my car is not an electric car, and it's a
twenty twenty one, so it's not even really a new car.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The whole entire screen of my car.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Is electric, all of it, like up to including the
the temperature controls the suv, like the range of it,
turning off the eco.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Button, all that shit is electric.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So Gabe and I this has happened a couple of times,
like we were driving and recently this weekend, and the
whole entire thing went black and we touch it. It's
like a touchscreen. None of it works. So we're in
the car and like we can't reset it. We can't
do anything. We can't control the air conditioning, we can't
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control anything of the height of the car, nothing like that,
none of it. It's the whole thing, And I'm just like,
what is the point of this? Like electricity things feil
like that, and then there's no manual backup, Like I
couldn't turn a knob reset it. We had to stop
the car, turn off the car for ten minutes, let
it reset, let it cool down. Whatever, turn it back on. Okay,
(23:49):
it's finally back on, and it's how particular does it work?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What progress is that? Like? You're just making my life harder.
It's so dumb. I can't stand it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And Nick, if you're listening, because I know that you
repair my car, you know what I'm talking about. I
bitch about this all the time. I just can't stand
all of the electric shit. It drives me crazy. This
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(24:18):
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(24:40):
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Speaker 3 (24:58):
All right, let's talk about these more. This is the
stupidest thing I've ever heard of my life, if true.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Note because well, yeah, yeah, the details are a little
sus so. A thirty seven year old man and his
thirty four year old friend. I'm pointing that out because
they were a full grown adult.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Man, and it's totally like, I don't know, I don't
think some men just never grow up.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's unacceptable. But they were wearing kevlar helmets and decided
it was a good idea to shoot each other in
the head with rifles, and then, of course one of
them died.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So they get a call and police show up, and
they said that the guy suffered a head injury and
it looked like that he had tried to kill himself.
That's what that's what they thought. So now I'm wondering
because I didn't see that in the article, Like if
they were each supposed to be wearing a kevlar helmet
and shooting each other to see if it worked, the
(25:49):
guy should have been wearing a helmet, right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, and where will she is that what the other
guy told them, or that's what the investigators assumed.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I don't know because it wasn't really clear. But like, so,
kevlar is a synthetic material. We actually use it in pathology.
Our cut gloves are made of kevlar. So and and
other people I think, like in the industry of people
restaurants and stuff, like if you're using sharp knives, sometimes
people use a cut glove, right. I don't know if
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like an actual I know you're probably supposed to, but
I I yeah, exactly, like if you actually know what
you're doing with the knives, I suppose. But for us,
it's it's it's really important because we're not necessarily worried
about getting cut. We're just worried about getting cut with
a knife that has hepatitis C on it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That's that's why we wear them.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So they're these gloves that we wear underneath of our
rubber gloves while we're.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Doing an autopsy.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And I usually wear like a pair of well we
used to have some hospitals still have latex, the fitted
ones that surgees you. So we wear a pair of
those pair of kevlar gloves on top, and then a
pair of like nitrial gloves on top of those. So
and then this way throughout the autopsy if you cut
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your gloves, which you inevitably will, you could just cut
change out the top layer of gloves and not have
to always change your gloves. So they also make bulletproof
fests out of this material because and and also the helmets, right,
it's not they're not bulletproof one hundred percent, though they're
they're like, they work really well a lot, let's say that,
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but they're not one hundred percent. So with certain with
certain situations, with these helmets, it could prevent a bullet
from going through, but like not every situation, and certainly
probably not from a higher powered rifle at a closer range.
It's just like, really, it just sounds dumb and like
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that that might not be Like, I just can't believe
that this is actually like was happening. Those are toxicology
on the dead guy and hopefully like he has something
in a system that would justify like why they were
thinking that this was a good idea.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I'm just really curious what went down the day of
They responded to the report of the guy getting shot
in the head and then they thought it was suicide.
So I'm like, is that what the friend told them
or what but then they must have this happened a
couple of weeks ago, and then the guy that is
the survivor of this situation got arrested for duy I
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think the day before your birthday, and then he just
went in custody for this last Thursday. So what happened
in the meantime. It's just the details aren't really adding
up for me, and I refuse to believe that two
men in their mid thirties thought this was a good idea. Seriously,
I mean, I think we could tell that some guys
are really stupid, and some people in general are really stupid,
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But this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Okay, let's talk about this woman who was forced to
go vegan earlier this year, all.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Right, so this is kind of from not for her.
From a scientific standpoint, this is really cool. So you
can be exposed to this lone star tick, which is
in the United States, and it's in other countries as well,
but it's more in the South right now, but there
have been cases of increased cases of it going to
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other states.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And usually when you think.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Of a tick bite or something, you think of lime disease,
where they where the tick is transmitting a bacteria into
your body, which is what your body.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is reacting to.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
And in this case, it's interesting because it's not a bacteria,
but it's an enzyme that's in their saliva called alpha girl,
which is a really really interesting name for this. But
what happens is your body reacts to it. Your body
sees that when you get the tick bite, and it's
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like it's far and then it creates it. It goes
to attack it, and it creates antibodies. So next time
your body sees alpha girl, it attacks, right. Unfortunately, alpha
girl is present in meat, like red meat from all
animals or mammals that are non primates. Right, So if
you eat a hamburger, you eat a steak, or sometimes
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even if you eat cheese, dairy anything, if you've had
a bite from this tick, your body like freaks out
and starts having hives and difficulty breathing and all these
sorts of weird reactions.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It sucks.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's scary because you don't know you can't always prevent
getting a tick bite, right, but imagine having this reaction
to this enzyme and not being able to eat meat
or cheese anymore. Awful for people that want to eat
meat and cheese. It's awful.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Listen, the gluten was hard enough on me, so I
can't imagine having those two things cut out. It's like
all I have anywhere, I'm always saying, like a doul't spoke,
I don't drink. All I have is coffee my only vice, right,
And I felt that way with gluten too, because I'm like,
no better snack than a buttered Lyssio's roll, right, But
now I can't even have that. So I can't imagine
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having cheese, which is the best thing ever steak also
the best thing ever for me taken away as well.
This would be devastating.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I could do without the meat, but the cheese would
would definitely be a no no. So this actually happened
to this woman. She was having like redness and on
her face, and at first she's Asian, so she blushed
it off. She brushed it off as Asian flushing, which
is what happens in It's not just Asian people, because
I used to get that too. There's a certain I
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don't remember what it is, but it's like a certain
liver thing that you can't process alcohol the same, so
you can get like redness in your face when you
drink alcohol, so like if I have a sip of wine,
like my cheeks get like bright red. It actually happens
to gape too, so it happens to other people that
aren't of Asian descent. But she just brushed it off,
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was like, oh, that's what it is. And then over
the course of the next couple of weeks she started
developing like it was definitely a problem. She had all
of these crazy hives all over her body and ten itching,
and they didn't know what it was, and they figured
out that she had been bit by this tick and
she has alpha girl syndrome.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That's what it Just it just.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Reminds me of something the kids say, because they're always
just like, oh, alpha beta whatever they're they're like weird
words and language are but but yeah, it's it's kind
of interesting. So I guess since we're seeing more of
these like creep up, especially to our area as well,
like we might be expecting to hear more cases of this,
And obviously, like some people have worse reactions than others,
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so they believe that a lot of people actually have
been exposed to this and just maybe aren't having symptoms
as severe as this particular woman was.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Actually, I know somebody that claimed, like ten years ago
they had this problem and nobody believed her at all.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
No, it's it's it's a real thing. It's and it's
really it's interesting, and you can get a blood you
could get blood work done to see if you've had it.
So it's good because a lot of times people are
having these unexplained like when you think of someone having
a full body of hives, it's just like they're having
an allergic reaction to something like something's happening, and sometimes
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when doctors try to investigate it, they just can't figure
it out. So this is good because the way that
she figured it out actually was not because her doctor
tested her. It was because she had done an elimination
diet and as soon as she stopped eating meat and cheese,
it went away, and then when she reintroduced it back,
it came back. So it was pretty obvious that that
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was what was causing her problems.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's insane, It really is insane.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay, So ten years ago, this chick decided to get
eyeliner tattooed on before her thirtieth birthday with hopes of
giving her eyes some more definition. She said a coworker
had got it done and the results look great, so
of course she goes and gets.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It done and it ends up being a disaster.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, so she was filming videos about how I guess
she was told that it was semi permanent and it
would last like three to five years, and now she's
going on year ten and it's still there.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It looks terrible.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We all know that black ink gets this like weird
bluish appearance over time and it blurs out and it
just you know, you see women all the time with this,
and you could see it from a mile away, and
then I imagine that it's even more annoying. I can
actually say this too, because I've had my eyebrows done
and it is like now that it's like pieces are
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falling out and the color is changing weird. Now it's
like every day I have to fill in my eyebrows
when it would have just been better if I didn't
have it. And these women probably have to put black
eyeliner on top of this weird tattoo they have on
their eyelid to cover it.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, yeah, she's saying it basically when she doesn't have
makeup on. It basically just looks like she has day
old makeup on in the way it faded, which doesn't
look good.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, and like tattoos fade.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Everyone knows that even the best tattoo artists, your tattoos
are gonna fade over time just because of what's happening
with the body. Because you have all of the tattoo
ink is stuck in these macrifages underneath of your skin,
which are the cells that are there to clean up
dirt and debris and bacteria, and they're constantly trying to
get rid of your tattoo, even though it usually will
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never get rid of all of it, but it will
pull a lot of the ink out.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It'll just fade over time.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
On top of that, you're getting older sun exposure areas
where you are rubbing your skin a lot, so like
your eyes, please, like you're especially if a woman that
wears makeup all the time, you're constantly scrubbing your eyes
to get mescara off. And it's just like a recipe
for disaster, all of it and just aging in general.
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So any single person, because that's the thing with tattoo cosmetics,
Like everybody wants to get it when they're twenty years
old and they never think that they're going to be sixty.
And you know what I mean, like it's it's not
gonna look good, it's just not.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Did you also notice she said it took two two
hour sessions. Don't you feel like that's insanely.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Long for that?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I do, But I don't know what the procedure is
as far as being like that close to somebody's I
don't know the whole I would I just wouldn't ever
do that on my eyes like that. No, I don't
think it looks it doesn't look good. I guess hard is.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
It to put on eyeline or like you don't need
to wear eyeliner every day.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I feel like eyeliner is like a special like I
guess l air you could put on your eyes. I
guess the thing is is that I've always noticed when
somebody's had it and it's bad, right, But I guess
if somebody had it that I met that was good.
I wouldn't know unless they told me. So it's hard
to just suppose, but you definitely know when somebody has
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it and it looks bad. Oh God, if they look
like Tammy fay Baker it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I don't like that look of the eye liner underneath
of the water line. I think it just looks terrible
on everyone.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's like it's like a Princess Diana thing, like it's
so eighties, like it just it just is a look,
you know what I mean. It's a look that nobody
should be trying to go for. But now, okay, whatever, everybody,
like including myself, Dude, you do dumb shit. When you're younger,
you get tattoos and then you never think you're gonna
get old, and all of a sudden it looks bad. Well,
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like the only option she has right now is laser,
and like she doesn't want to put a laser near
her eye like that, which I don't blame her.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I mean, you know what, I think that because I
know that certain procedures that get done with the laser,
they put like these like lead eye caps in your
eyes to protect your eyeballs.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
If you're going to like a.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Legit physician that's doing it, that's using all of the
proper precautions and stuff, then I would consider it. But
otherwise I wouldn't go to like a normal laser tattoo place.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
For that.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I wouldn't even want to get like my eyelashes done
because I just feel like you could get infected.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
And so I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Man, My nail girl has her eyelashes done and they
look good, like I was looking at them, and I'm like,
I can't tell that they're fake, Like I couldn't see
anywhere of I never had the false eyelashes, And I
wouldn't want to have another procedure that like getting my
nails done where I have to sit there for two hours,
but they look pretty good.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You have to go like every two weeks or something.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, but I mean they look good like I couldn't.
I couldn't see how they were stuck on unless she
had just gotten them done and they were fresh.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I don't know. Well, they're really making advancements with it.
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On today's episode, we're going to talk about an update
on a story we brought you a few months ago
about a TikTok creator slash family influencer whose son drown
a Tesla lawsuit after a man driving a cyber truck
died in a fire that was so hot it caused
his bones to disintegrate, a freak accident among two dumb
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friends that has now turned into murder charges, a woman
who is vegan against her will, and tattoo eyeliner regrets
all that and more. On today's episode, Let's start with
this TikTok influencer update.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So Emily Kaiser, who we've discussed on a couple of episodes.
She is the influencer whose son drowned a couple of
months ago, and I guess the last time we talked
about it was they were considering pressing felony child abuse
charges against her husband, but we still didn't really know
exactly what went down.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So she's finally.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Spoken out since the death, taking all the responsibility. She
had talked about how valuable pool fence would have been.
And a little bit more information is coming out about
what went down with the husband as well.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, so apparently the husband's telling of events was a
little bit different than what the investigation showed. He had
said that the son had been so he was home
with their newborn son as well as their toddler son,
while the mom was out with her friends, and he
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was watching sports apparently, and had said he lost sight
of the sun for a few minutes. And here when
they looked at the cameras and everything, it appeared that
the sun was in the backyard for a total of
nine minutes unattended. Two minutes into him being in the
backyard outside, apparently he was playing on an inflatable toy
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like a float or something like that slipped off it
unintentionally fell into the pool and was in the pool
for a total of seven minutes, trying to keep himself
above water, not knowing how to swim. And he didn't
die on the scene. He was brought to the hospital
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because he was found unconscious, but it was too late
and he died. So apparently when they looked at the cameras,
they saw that he was outside way longer than the
dad thought, And when they checked the dad's phone and
saw what he was doing, it was he was sports betting.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I mean, so the sports bet he did place
an hour before the incident went down, but he was
watching an NBA final game and I'm love see.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
If the person was going to win, so he would win. Yeah,
so you know what I mean, Like he was trying
to see if, like his bet was going to make
him money. Well yeah, I mean, he could have just
been watching the game too out of interest and happened
to bet on it. But I love this article saying
he was watching his children. They're your fucking children. You're
not watching them.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You're at home with them, just as the mother would
be at home with them, right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So that that's.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Just a total side note because that drives me crazy
when they're like, oh, is your husband babysitting your children?
There's no babysitting at your child.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The terminology is annoying.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
But I mean, I guess they were just trying to
say that they were on his watch.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, so he was clearly distracted. And I think at
first he was saying it was only moments, not even minutes,
that the kid was gone, But as we now know,
it was almost ten full minutes that the kid was unattended,
and this unfortunately happened. I was saying this yesterday with
the Hershey Park episode the story weird to ten minutes
is an extremely long time for a child like that
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to be unattended.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, And I mean, like it's being a dead horse
at this point, like obviously you shouldn't have a child
anywhere near a swimming pool that's not locked up, right,
And we know from her own she admitted it that
that she was responsible.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean, I do.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I do like that part of her statement that she's
accepting blame for it, because I mean, while while it
is her fault, it's her fault for not having defence,
it's their fault, the family that owns the house, the
mom and the dad's fault. But honestly, like if they
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had that, things would have turned out better. But ultimately her.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Husband's at fault. Well, he is the one that was being.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
In fact, they were planning on filing charges against him
and they decided not to because they didn't think anything
would come of it. But he fell in the category
of being able to be charged with with that, with
neglect and putting the child in a dangerous situation that
leaded that led it to death. Now, one thing that
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I've always thought about that with this case is like,
if this was a babysitter, like an actual babysitter that
they paid, and this happened, and she was playing on
her phone on TikTok and the same exact thing happened,
she would be getting in trouble. So so you have
to think, like, Okay, this is his kid, and obviously
he didn't want the kid to die, but like, it's
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an offense that would get a person into trouble.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, I mean that's why they probably suggested the charges.
But maybe they think a jury's not going to see
it the same way and think that the punishment and
office losing the kid exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean I had a lot more sympathy when I
thought that maybe he got distracted by the newborn, like
freaking out or something like that. Right, not that it
makes it more acceptable, but like you could understand it
a little better. But to know that he was just
watching basketball while this kid's drowning in the backyard, it's just,
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you know, accidents happened, and this was an accident.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But it's just it's hard to put yourself in an
accepting place with it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So I do like that she's taking her part of
the blame on it as far as saying, and I
have some of the actual things that she has said,
she you know she wants. She did say that he
is our baby and our best friend, which I think
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is interesting terminology because he is not longer living.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So but like I.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Said, however, you have to I've always said that about
like especially losing a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
However, you have to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I like that she said I take full accountability and
I should have done more to protect him, and that's
that's definitely true. But I don't like that this statement
doesn't really have the husband's involvement in it, because it
almost seems like she's taking the blame all of it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, she's going.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
To take the blame because she's the face of their
family on social media. But I also be surprised if
they serve if their marriage survived this. I mean, in general,
a lot of people say that marriages don't survive the
loss of a child, and especially when it's due to
the negligence of one parent. I just I would be
shocked if they made it through this. Seriously, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's really hard to say because like, obviously I've never
been through anything like that, but I can't imagine being
through an event like that that I would ever trust. Like, listen,
do you think that she's ever going to be able
to leave that child with anyone again? Like, how could
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you ever trust? Especially him? Now She's going to be like, oh,
I have to have my mom here to watch the
kid all the time because I don't trust you with
the kid, right. I would just never ever leave a
child alone with him to every single time she goes
to the door, she's going to be checking her phone
frantically to make sure everything's okay. I mean, like, that's
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trauma that she dealt with, and I don't know how
she's going to get over that. But she just I
see that she's making a set up that her new
thing is going to be like how to handle grief.
That's going to be her new platform to all of
her followers. So she just wanted to like let them
know that she's coming back basically, which is fine whatever,
Like she could do whatever she wants to do. I
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just think something interesting that she said in the statement
was seeing through this tragedy that she noticed that there
was a lack of boundaries online and protecting child's a
child privacy and moving forward, she's going to.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Work on that.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, Like, yeah, that's we say that all the time
about these like child children that are kind of getting
used in a way for their parents' social media.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, I think this would have been a story regardless
with his passing, but I think considered, oh, nobody would
have primarily no, like, there would have been at least
a like this person who's a notable influencer's son died,
but it wouldn't have blown up to such proportions because
he was a main character on her I.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
S were saying.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I thought you were saying, like just in general, if
I mean, because like kids drowned, this happens all the time,
and it would it would have been half a news story.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
But she has she has a large following, so the
passing of her child, whether he was featured or not,
would have inevitably been on at least one news site
that it happened. But because he was such a main
player with her whole shtick, that's why it blew up
in the way it did because people know. I mean,
he was basically an influencer himself.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
If you want to look at it and like it's
just weird because she's she's like a mom influencer and
that's what's going on behind. Like I would argue that
mommy bloggers are the worst fucking mothers on the planet.
I have not I've yet to see one that actually
is being a good bob.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I mean they're probably something, but.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Listen, I don't know any personally, but I would I
would say a similar thing because like I I do,
I half do the influencer thing because I hate I
hate it and do the bare minimum. But I can't
imagine if I was doing videos every single day like
a lot of these people are multiple a day. They're like,
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I'm a mom and I live in it. Like you
just you can't. You can't do both and be present
for both. It's just not it's not possible. And like
having the camera in your kid's face for every one
of their moves, it's just like it's not natural. I
don't post a ton of pictures because my phone is
either not on my body or on or is in
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my pocket. You know that, Like when I see my
kids and stuff, and they're doing stuff. I like to
like experience the moment myself and not behind a camera
because I want to show other people and having the
camera in their face all the time like that. It's
just like that there's and we know, like look at
like the Instagram and the podcast. You guys only see
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us for a few hours a week, but there's more
that go hours that go on behind.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The scenes of this.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Hours and hours, you know what I mean, just to
make Instagram posts, make social media posts, do this, make
the YouTube video, all this stuff, prep for it, look
for stories.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All this.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So like just knowing that as as a person that
kind of does this, it's just like the whole entire
day is scheduled around you doing videos of the kids.
Like anybody that's listening right now that has kids knows
that kids don't they don't cooperate, they don't want to
do it. Like remember the kids were talking to us
(12:04):
that they they said they wanted to do it. They
were they wanted to do like some kind of YouTube
videos to go along with our thing, and I was
just like no, no, because then once it becomes you,
it becomes a job for everyone that's around it's a
job and then you're not yourself and you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know all of it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So I'm just I'm just like not a fan of it.
And you see, like like you almost see where this
can get you, and it's just it's just terrible. It's
terrible for them, like not thinking that they don't love
their kids, because I'm sure they sure they do. It's
just like it's not let the fame get to your
head in a way, and it's just like like you
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like you fuck up everything because of it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I just I don't know. It's not a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's not about loving them or not. It's just about
the distraction element, which we see in this case, it's
distract The phones are distracting to everyone. And it's just
like I have to make a conscious effort to like
put it out of my sight because it's just like
second nature to just pick it up fifty times and
check it. You see people doing you go out to
(13:08):
a restaurant, Like, go out to a restaurant, right and
just look around for a second at what you're looking at.
Like people aren't even talking to each other.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They're on their phones.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's it's absolutely insane. Yeah, And like it's people don't
even realize they're doing it. This guy didn't even realize,
like when he told police. I honestly don't think he
was trying to cover his ass. He just did not
realize that, like for ten minutes he was zoned out
on his phone and the TV and not on the kid.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, yeah, I like to check it out.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I don't think he intentionally did it, which is probably
why they ended up dropping the charges. But like you
still need to like reel it back and be like, well,
what happened that this was allowed to go on? Yeah, Okay,
So a family issuing Tesla after their loved one got
in an accident in his cyber truck and burned alive
to the point where his bones disintegrated.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I feel like it's a little this is a little
bit of an exaggeration. Why Because if I.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Say to you someone's bones disintegrated, like you would think
it would be like a cremation, right, yeah, or just
that's not That's not what happened. This is this is
just like this is a fire death. This is certain
things that happened during the fire death. Now, one thing
I'll say is that I guess the family is saying,
(14:27):
and I don't know if this is true, but apparently
once the electricity cuts on these cars, and it might
not just be the Cyberchuck, it might be any Tesla.
Once the electricity cuts, you can't open the door from
the inside or the outside. If that's true, then this
lawsuit is completely valid. But is it true. I don't
(14:51):
know if it's true. I'm saying that that's just like
I just think that that's dumb, like that that would
even that there would be a situation. The problem is
with with a Tesla or electric vehicle is that they
have batteries and they burned at very high temperatures. And
we talked about that on multiple episodes here about how
you know my husband's a firefighter. We talked about it
(15:12):
with him, We talked about it with a Fascinelli from
New York. We did a whole episode about these lithianion
batteries and things and how they burn at higher temperatures
and they're just they're harder fires to put out in
general for firefighters. So of course, if a cyber truck
crashes and it catches on fire, it's going to burn
(15:33):
it a way higher temperature than a gasoline fire from
a regular car, and you know, you could cremate a
human body at one hundred or fourteen hundred degrees over
the course of two to three hours into ash basically,
or into like little crumbles of bone and stuff. They're
saying that this fire was five thousand degrees, So even
(15:55):
if he was in there for a short period of time,
he wasn't cremated because of the condition of the body.
That was explained by the medical examiner. But his bones
had effects of what you would see of a person
that died in a high temperature situation. So they he
appeared to have shrank in size because the soft tissues
(16:17):
start to shrivel up, the bones can fracture and cause
him to appear to be shorter. But so I guess
you could say whenever anybody dies in a fire. This
is actually what the forensic Friday that I talked about
last week was. When any it's it's it's unlike anything
you see in any other autopsy because as far as
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traumatic wounds go, because the fire temperature causes very specific
looking things to the body, not only to the soft tissues,
but to the bones too, to the brain. My specific
article this week for forensic Friday was what happens if
a dead body is in a fire? What does what
does the brain look like? How do you tell the
difference between someone who fell and hit or their head
(17:01):
versus someone that just died in the fire and was
exposed to temperatures that high.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, So.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's that's kind of a normal thing you would expect
to see in a death like this. The lawsuit, So
he gets in an accident, and I would assume didn't
see this in writing that because they were able to
get toxicology and they were able to determine the condition
of his bones, I would assume that the medical examiner
(17:30):
also determined that he died as a result of the
fire versus got in an accident and had some kind
of hand injury and then he was dead and then
his body burned. There's just a difference because they're saying
he burned alive, and you could tell that at autopsy
by looking at the trachea. You could see if they're
soot inside of there, to see if the person was
(17:52):
inhaling fire fumes basically, and also you could test if
they were able to get toxicology, they possibly could test
carbon monoxide levels as well, okay, So my.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Butt earlier was that they're arguing that the doors couldn't
be opened because the power was off on the car.
But I was gonna make the point of they just
kind of slipped in this article that he had also
been really drunk at the time he was driving. So
let's say you get in an accident and the cars
lock up, and there are safety mechanisms within the vehicle
(18:26):
to get out and kind of override those settings. But
what if you're too drunk that you can't figure it out,
and that's why you get trapped in the car.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And that's why this whole situation to me is like
Nolan Voyd, because the guy was drunk driving, and you know,
I have absolutely no tolerance for this.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Now his lawyer.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Is stating that that's just because he had alcohol in
his system. Now I couldn't find his actual blood alcohol level,
and that is important because if he was the way
they worded it was that he had alcohol in his system.
But they're also going after the bar for overserving him.
So you can legally sanial you could legally have alcohol
(19:08):
in your system. So are they saying that the amount
of alcohol in his system was an illegal because like,
if the guy had a glass of wine, you're allowed
to do that. Your blood alcohol is low, you're allowed
to drive on that. Or was he like piss ass drunk?
I don't know because we don't have the levels.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, but how would they be able to go after
the bar for overserving him if his levels.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Were well, So that's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So so you want to blame everybody except the person
that actually ingested the alcohol, Right, So this guy drives
piss ass drunk crashes and they're saying the lawyer is
basically saying, we acknowledge that he had alcohol in his system,
but that quote that shouldn't sign his death warrant. Well,
(19:54):
actually yes it should. And that's exactly what you do
when you get into the car when you're piss ass drunk,
like he.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Might he probably lud kill someone else if.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, he wasn't drunk driving, yes, And like that's why
I'm just like this kind of doesn't It doesn't. Like
the whole entire lawsuit to me is like Nolan void. Now,
this is a situation though that like a person that
was driving their kids to school that was totally sober
could crash and if they're trapped in the car, that's
(20:27):
that's a problem. That's a huge problem. Well yeah, I
don't know, like what the deal with that is. So
if I mean, this is the thing, like he if
this is true that you can't get out of the
car because the electricity is cut off, this guy's family's
gonna get a ton of money because of this lawsuit
for bringing awareness to it, and like like should they
(20:51):
shouldn't they whatever? But like I don't know, it's kind
of messed up to think that a person's family is
gonna make like all of this money because they're fair
family member was drunk driving and luckily they didn't hurt
anybody else. But like you really don't deserve it when
you're driving like that and putting yourself and others at risk.
(21:11):
I mean, what if he wasn't in a Tesla and
he died, then what You're just gonna just going to
see the bar then, right, So it's like it has
to be somebody else's fault. Like I don't I just
don't like that shit. I don't like I don't like
not taking self responsibility for things. So I'm just I'm curious,
Like you have a point, like if if the bar
(21:32):
is if they're saying he got overserved, then then right there,
that tells me that his alcohol level was was way
too high to be driving.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Because you would have nothing to go after the bar.
And otherwise, if you just had one glass, how do
you even know how one?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Like for me, one glass of.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Wine is a problem, but like for most people, it's
not especially a man, So it had to be somewhat
substantial otherwise how could they possibly go after it?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Shit, just it just makes me mad, Like it just
makes me mad. But it also, I mean, it is
concerning because because a lot of people have these I
don't know, Like I feel like, is this the first
time that a tesla has caught on fire like or
has lost electricity like that that a person would be
trapped inside Because.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They cited another accident that happened a couple months after this,
where college students had burned alive in cyber truck for
getting after getting an accent. But I don't know all
the details of that. And the car has been recalled
a couple of times, but most cars have, and I'm
not saying that the cyber truck didn't have this problem.
I'm just saying we can't overlook the fact that he
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was also drunk driving.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Could we also just make a side note too, Like
my car is not an electric car, and it's a
twenty twenty one, so it's not even really a new car.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The whole entire screen of my car.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Is electric, all of it, like up to including the
the temperature controls the suv, like the range of it,
turning off the eco.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Button, all that shit is electric.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So Gabe and I this has happened a couple of times,
like we were driving and recently this weekend, and the
whole entire thing went black and we touch it. It's
like a touchscreen. None of it works. So we're in
the car and like we can't reset it. We can't
do anything. We can't control the air conditioning, we can't
(23:28):
control anything of the height of the car, nothing like that,
none of it. It's the whole thing, And I'm just like,
what is the point of this? Like electricity things feil
like that, and then there's no manual backup, Like I
couldn't turn a knob reset it. We had to stop
the car, turn off the car for ten minutes, let
it reset, let it cool down. Whatever, turn it back on. Okay,
(23:49):
it's finally back on, and it's how particular does it work?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What progress is that? Like? You're just making my life harder.
It's so dumb. I can't stand it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And Nick, if you're listening, because I know that you
repair my car, you know what I'm talking about. I
bitch about this all the time. I just can't stand
all of the electric shit. It drives me crazy. This
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(24:18):
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(24:40):
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Speaker 3 (24:58):
All right, let's talk about these more. This is the
stupidest thing I've ever heard of my life, if true.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Note because well, yeah, yeah, the details are a little
sus so. A thirty seven year old man and his
thirty four year old friend. I'm pointing that out because
they were a full grown adult.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Man, and it's totally like, I don't know, I don't
think some men just never grow up.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's unacceptable. But they were wearing kevlar helmets and decided
it was a good idea to shoot each other in
the head with rifles, and then, of course one of
them died.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So they get a call and police show up, and
they said that the guy suffered a head injury and
it looked like that he had tried to kill himself.
That's what that's what they thought. So now I'm wondering
because I didn't see that in the article, Like if
they were each supposed to be wearing a kevlar helmet
and shooting each other to see if it worked, the
(25:49):
guy should have been wearing a helmet, right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, and where will she is that what the other
guy told them, or that's what the investigators assumed.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I don't know because it wasn't really clear. But like, so,
kevlar is a synthetic material. We actually use it in pathology.
Our cut gloves are made of kevlar. So and and
other people I think, like in the industry of people
restaurants and stuff, like if you're using sharp knives, sometimes
people use a cut glove, right. I don't know if
(26:21):
like an actual I know you're probably supposed to, but
I I yeah, exactly, like if you actually know what
you're doing with the knives, I suppose. But for us,
it's it's it's really important because we're not necessarily worried
about getting cut. We're just worried about getting cut with
a knife that has hepatitis C on it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That's that's why we wear them.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So they're these gloves that we wear underneath of our
rubber gloves while we're.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Doing an autopsy.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And I usually wear like a pair of well we
used to have some hospitals still have latex, the fitted
ones that surgees you. So we wear a pair of
those pair of kevlar gloves on top, and then a
pair of like nitrial gloves on top of those. So
and then this way throughout the autopsy if you cut
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your gloves, which you inevitably will, you could just cut
change out the top layer of gloves and not have
to always change your gloves. So they also make bulletproof
fests out of this material because and and also the helmets, right,
it's not they're not bulletproof one hundred percent, though they're
they're like, they work really well a lot, let's say that,
(27:30):
but they're not one hundred percent. So with certain with
certain situations, with these helmets, it could prevent a bullet
from going through, but like not every situation, and certainly
probably not from a higher powered rifle at a closer range.
It's just like, really, it just sounds dumb and like
(27:50):
that that might not be Like, I just can't believe
that this is actually like was happening. Those are toxicology
on the dead guy and hopefully like he has something
in a system that would justify like why they were
thinking that this was a good idea.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I'm just really curious what went down the day of
They responded to the report of the guy getting shot
in the head and then they thought it was suicide.
So I'm like, is that what the friend told them
or what but then they must have this happened a
couple of weeks ago, and then the guy that is
the survivor of this situation got arrested for duy I
(28:27):
think the day before your birthday, and then he just
went in custody for this last Thursday. So what happened
in the meantime. It's just the details aren't really adding
up for me, and I refuse to believe that two
men in their mid thirties thought this was a good idea. Seriously,
I mean, I think we could tell that some guys
are really stupid, and some people in general are really stupid,
(28:49):
But this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Okay, let's talk about this woman who was forced to
go vegan earlier this year, all.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Right, so this is kind of from not for her.
From a scientific standpoint, this is really cool. So you
can be exposed to this lone star tick, which is
in the United States, and it's in other countries as well,
but it's more in the South right now, but there
have been cases of increased cases of it going to
(29:17):
other states.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And usually when you think.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Of a tick bite or something, you think of lime disease,
where they where the tick is transmitting a bacteria into
your body, which is what your body.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is reacting to.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
And in this case, it's interesting because it's not a bacteria,
but it's an enzyme that's in their saliva called alpha girl,
which is a really really interesting name for this. But
what happens is your body reacts to it. Your body
sees that when you get the tick bite, and it's
(29:52):
like it's far and then it creates it. It goes
to attack it, and it creates antibodies. So next time
your body sees alpha girl, it attacks, right. Unfortunately, alpha
girl is present in meat, like red meat from all
animals or mammals that are non primates. Right, So if
you eat a hamburger, you eat a steak, or sometimes
(30:15):
even if you eat cheese, dairy anything, if you've had
a bite from this tick, your body like freaks out
and starts having hives and difficulty breathing and all these
sorts of weird reactions.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It sucks.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's scary because you don't know you can't always prevent
getting a tick bite, right, but imagine having this reaction
to this enzyme and not being able to eat meat
or cheese anymore. Awful for people that want to eat
meat and cheese. It's awful.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Listen, the gluten was hard enough on me, so I
can't imagine having those two things cut out. It's like
all I have anywhere, I'm always saying, like a doul't spoke,
I don't drink. All I have is coffee my only vice, right,
And I felt that way with gluten too, because I'm like,
no better snack than a buttered Lyssio's roll, right, But
now I can't even have that. So I can't imagine
(31:10):
having cheese, which is the best thing ever steak also
the best thing ever for me taken away as well.
This would be devastating.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I could do without the meat, but the cheese would
would definitely be a no no. So this actually happened
to this woman. She was having like redness and on
her face, and at first she's Asian, so she blushed
it off. She brushed it off as Asian flushing, which
is what happens in It's not just Asian people, because
I used to get that too. There's a certain I
(31:38):
don't remember what it is, but it's like a certain
liver thing that you can't process alcohol the same, so
you can get like redness in your face when you
drink alcohol, so like if I have a sip of wine,
like my cheeks get like bright red. It actually happens
to gape too, so it happens to other people that
aren't of Asian descent. But she just brushed it off,
(32:00):
was like, oh, that's what it is. And then over
the course of the next couple of weeks she started
developing like it was definitely a problem. She had all
of these crazy hives all over her body and ten itching,
and they didn't know what it was, and they figured
out that she had been bit by this tick and
she has alpha girl syndrome.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That's what it Just it just.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Reminds me of something the kids say, because they're always
just like, oh, alpha beta whatever they're they're like weird
words and language are but but yeah, it's it's kind
of interesting. So I guess since we're seeing more of
these like creep up, especially to our area as well,
like we might be expecting to hear more cases of this,
And obviously, like some people have worse reactions than others,
(32:41):
so they believe that a lot of people actually have
been exposed to this and just maybe aren't having symptoms
as severe as this particular woman was.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Actually, I know somebody that claimed, like ten years ago
they had this problem and nobody believed her at all.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
No, it's it's it's a real thing. It's and it's
really it's interesting, and you can get a blood you
could get blood work done to see if you've had it.
So it's good because a lot of times people are
having these unexplained like when you think of someone having
a full body of hives, it's just like they're having
an allergic reaction to something like something's happening, and sometimes
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when doctors try to investigate it, they just can't figure
it out. So this is good because the way that
she figured it out actually was not because her doctor
tested her. It was because she had done an elimination
diet and as soon as she stopped eating meat and cheese,
it went away, and then when she reintroduced it back,
it came back. So it was pretty obvious that that
(33:41):
was what was causing her problems.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's insane, It really is insane.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay, So ten years ago, this chick decided to get
eyeliner tattooed on before her thirtieth birthday with hopes of
giving her eyes some more definition. She said a coworker
had got it done and the results look great, so
of course she goes and gets.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It done and it ends up being a disaster.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, so she was filming videos about how I guess
she was told that it was semi permanent and it
would last like three to five years, and now she's
going on year ten and it's still there.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It looks terrible.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We all know that black ink gets this like weird
bluish appearance over time and it blurs out and it
just you know, you see women all the time with this,
and you could see it from a mile away, and
then I imagine that it's even more annoying. I can
actually say this too, because I've had my eyebrows done
and it is like now that it's like pieces are
(34:34):
falling out and the color is changing weird. Now it's
like every day I have to fill in my eyebrows
when it would have just been better if I didn't
have it. And these women probably have to put black
eyeliner on top of this weird tattoo they have on
their eyelid to cover it.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, yeah, she's saying it basically when she doesn't have
makeup on. It basically just looks like she has day
old makeup on in the way it faded, which doesn't
look good.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, and like tattoos fade.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Everyone knows that even the best tattoo artists, your tattoos
are gonna fade over time just because of what's happening
with the body. Because you have all of the tattoo
ink is stuck in these macrifages underneath of your skin,
which are the cells that are there to clean up
dirt and debris and bacteria, and they're constantly trying to
get rid of your tattoo, even though it usually will
(35:22):
never get rid of all of it, but it will
pull a lot of the ink out.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It'll just fade over time.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
On top of that, you're getting older sun exposure areas
where you are rubbing your skin a lot, so like
your eyes, please, like you're especially if a woman that
wears makeup all the time, you're constantly scrubbing your eyes
to get mescara off. And it's just like a recipe
for disaster, all of it and just aging in general.
(35:49):
So any single person, because that's the thing with tattoo cosmetics,
Like everybody wants to get it when they're twenty years
old and they never think that they're going to be sixty.
And you know what I mean, like it's it's not
gonna look good, it's just not.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Did you also notice she said it took two two
hour sessions. Don't you feel like that's insanely.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Long for that?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I do, But I don't know what the procedure is
as far as being like that close to somebody's I
don't know the whole I would I just wouldn't ever
do that on my eyes like that. No, I don't
think it looks it doesn't look good. I guess hard is.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
It to put on eyeline or like you don't need
to wear eyeliner every day.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I feel like eyeliner is like a special like I
guess l air you could put on your eyes. I
guess the thing is is that I've always noticed when
somebody's had it and it's bad, right, But I guess
if somebody had it that I met that was good.
I wouldn't know unless they told me. So it's hard
to just suppose, but you definitely know when somebody has
(36:55):
it and it looks bad. Oh God, if they look
like Tammy fay Baker it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I don't like that look of the eye liner underneath
of the water line. I think it just looks terrible
on everyone.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's like it's like a Princess Diana thing, like it's
so eighties, like it just it just is a look,
you know what I mean. It's a look that nobody
should be trying to go for. But now, okay, whatever, everybody,
like including myself, Dude, you do dumb shit. When you're younger,
you get tattoos and then you never think you're gonna
get old, and all of a sudden it looks bad. Well,
(37:28):
like the only option she has right now is laser,
and like she doesn't want to put a laser near
her eye like that, which I don't blame her.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I mean, you know what, I think that because I
know that certain procedures that get done with the laser,
they put like these like lead eye caps in your
eyes to protect your eyeballs.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
If you're going to like a.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Legit physician that's doing it, that's using all of the
proper precautions and stuff, then I would consider it. But
otherwise I wouldn't go to like a normal laser tattoo place.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
For that.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I wouldn't even want to get like my eyelashes done
because I just feel like you could get infected.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
And so I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Man, My nail girl has her eyelashes done and they
look good, like I was looking at them, and I'm like,
I can't tell that they're fake, Like I couldn't see
anywhere of I never had the false eyelashes, And I
wouldn't want to have another procedure that like getting my
nails done where I have to sit there for two hours,
but they look pretty good.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You have to go like every two weeks or something.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, but I mean they look good like I couldn't.
I couldn't see how they were stuck on unless she
had just gotten them done and they were fresh.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I don't know. Well, they're really making advancements with it.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
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All right, Saya, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologists assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
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