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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about Gray's Anatomy star Eric Deane being
diagnosed with ALS, a woman who had her head reattached

(00:31):
after getting decapitated, a debate about the worst physical pain
you could experience as a human, and of course, the
ever important debate of squirting. Let's start with Eric Deane.
All right, Gray's Anatomy star Eric Dane aka McSteamy has
revealed that he has ALS. So can you explain what
that is for everybody? Okay? So ALS stands for amiotrophic

(00:56):
lateral sclerosis, which occurs when people have progressive muscle weakness
and paralysis that eventually will lead to death. So Eric Dane,
he's pretty young, right, He's fifty two. This is the
age range when people get diagnosed with this. So this
happened to one of this Actually is it's terrible. It's

(01:20):
one of the worst things that a person could get
diagnosed with, and it's considered to be one hundred percent fatal. Actually,
the average life expectancy is only about fourteen months after
getting diagnosed with this. Honestly, it could. You could live
five years. Stephen Hawking amazingly lived years with it. But

(01:44):
he's really one of the only cases that have ever
been known to live such a long time with it.
It's usually a death sentence, unfortunately, and we had an
uncircuin unfortunate circumstances. This happened with one of our friends.
He now his father had had ALS, so we already

(02:05):
kind of knew about it, and then one day he
just started his voice started to change. He started to
It wasn't like a hoarseness. It was more like he
just got this weird, like a froggy kind of voice,
and it started. And as soon as it started, he
was like, this is what happened with my dad. And
he already knew right away. But there's not really a

(02:28):
single test you could do to test for ALS, so
they had to do a lot of different tests to
see if maybe he had something else. And ALS is
typically not usually genetic. It is in a few, maybe
five to ten percent of cases, but it's not usually genetic.
So they were trying to hope that maybe he was

(02:48):
having something else, and you just wouldn't. I mean, Maria,
you were around when that happened with Steve, Like you
wouldn't imagine how quick it went from him losing his
voice to being in a wheelchair and not being able
to eat and breathe on his own within a year.
It was the most insane thing I ever witnessed. Yeah,

(03:10):
I mean, I feel like it's like slowly watching somebody die.
So what happens, and this is also called lu Garrig's
disease some of you might have heard it's the same thing,
But what happens is that it starts off slow and
it progressively gets worse. And it's also a degenerative disease,
so it also breaks down your tissue and normal function

(03:31):
as it's getting worse, and it destroys the nerve cells
that control the voluntary muscles throughout the body. So when
we think of voluntary muscles, we think of skeletal muscle.
We have all different kinds of muscle in our body.
There's cardiac muscle that controls the heart, and there's smooth
muscle that controls the organs like the bladder and the stomach.

(03:51):
But skeletal muscle is ones that we can control. So
we can't say like, hey, uterus, do your thing, Hey
black well bladders like a weird one. And so is
the breathing, because we can control our breathing, and we can,
but if we stop breathing, it works on our own.
And we can control part of our urinary track system too,

(04:12):
because we urinate, and we're in control of that for
the most part, especially not me as much as they
get older. But that's a side note. So what happens
with the skeletal muscle is your diaphragm, which is what
if you breathe in, you breathe out, you're lifting up
your diaphragm, and when that can't work anymore and you're

(04:33):
not in control of breathing anymore, then all of these
things start happening. Your lungs aren't they can, are more
susceptible to infection, you can't cough anymore, you're having a
difficulty swallowing, and ultimately that's how people end up dying
from that. But it's just it's just so terrible to
hear why it happens, and they don't really know a

(04:55):
whole lot about it, honestly, like why it happens, how
to stop it, And they're doing research obviously they learn
more and more to keep people alive a little bit
longer with it, but ultimately this doesn't sound good for him,
all right, So this next story is like, I don't know,
this defies all medical knowledge I have or anything about

(05:19):
how decapitations work. But when this woman was sixteen, she
was in gym playing soccer and fell injuring her right
ankle and spine and tearing a muscle off both her
shoulder blades. So because of this accident, she ended up
having twenty two surgeries, which can you even imagine going
through something like that to begin with. No, So then
she gets diagnosed with Eller's Dwnlow's syndrome, and a year

(05:41):
later her neck became dislocated and she had to wear
this halo brace. So when they removed the brace later on,
her skull ended up detaching from her spine, which caused
her to have an internal decapitation. All right, So this
makes sense because she had she was diagnosed with hypermobile
Eller's down Low syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder
that disrupts the body's production of collagen and joint stability.

(06:07):
So these people often have multiple joint dislocations throughout their life.
So this is not abnormal for a patient that has
this thing. And what happened was, I guess when she
had this halo and the doctor was removing it, he
like accidentally detached her skull from her spine because, like

(06:28):
I said, they don't have these normal connections at their
joints and they could just move around way more easily
than an average person, and that would be considered an
Atlanto occipital dislocation. So it's it's essentially like the skull,
the ligaments that are attaching the skull to the spinal
column become detached, and you have this area where there's

(06:53):
no protection of like the most vital structures of the
base of the brain and the top of the spinal cord,
and that kind of that's called an internal decapitation, because
when we think about decapitation, it's like someone has a
giant machete and it's like cutting someone's head off'n that's
a decapitation. This is like the outside of the skin

(07:14):
looks completely normal and they don't look like they're decapitated,
but the vital structures are could be decapitated. Which it's
kind of like she wasn't really internally decapitated. It's just
kind of the spinal cord at the top where it

(07:35):
goes into the base of the brain was left unprotected.
And when that happens in car accidents, let's say there's
like a ninety percent fatality rate when that happens, because
think about getting in a car accident and having those
vital structures not protected by the bones, right, so you
have EM first, you have just the blunt trauma from

(07:57):
the accident, and then you have EMS moving you into
making us hospital and if like if they're not protected,
it could lead to paralysis and it could turn off
the vital organs because in the base of the brain
it is responsible for making things like your lung and
heart work. In this case, since it was in such
a controlled environment per se that it was recognized right away,

(08:20):
they were able to stabilize her and bring her and
give her surgery and fuse her skull to her to
her spinal column so that area is now protected. And
since then she's had an additional thirty seven surgeries to
fuse all of her bones all the way from her
skull to her pelvis, so which is outrageous. She can't

(08:45):
really turn from side to side and move in any direction.
I mean, think about your backbone moving and helping you
with that. But she's alive still, and that's what they
have to do because she just keeps dislocating so bad
all the time, and like you can't, I mean, dislocating
your arm and stuff is a nuisance and it sucks,
but like you won't die from that, but you will

(09:06):
die if your spinal column comes detached like that. So
that's what happened in that case. It is insane. So
now she's thirty five and she's had thirty seven total
procedures related to this. Yeah, and she calls herself a
human statue because she can't really move like that. And
it's crazy because she is doing physical therapy and stuff

(09:27):
and learning different things that she could do with her
body the way it is. But I mean, it's just
it's unfortunate, but it just has to be done because
otherwise she'd have to be in a cast or something
all the time because she just keeps dislocating all the
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All right, so researchers at McGill University have done some

(10:35):
research to find out exactly what causes the worst physical
pain to humans. So before we get into it, what
would you think before reading the list, Because I'm thinking, like,
you know, burns of course, or getting shot have to
be I would say, I would say giving childbirth that
if you just asked me, That's what I would say.

(10:58):
But some of these on the list I could see.
I could see that they are like they make sense
for the most part. So they're ranking the number one
worst pain as complex regional pain syndrome. So get into
what that is. So it's a chronic neurological condition that
happens after an injury that sets off a chain reaction

(11:18):
to the body and causes the nervous system to kind
of go haywire. It causes intense, burning, throbbing, stabbing pain,
and people that suffer from it say that it's very
It doesn't have anything to do with the original injury.
It's just so much more painful, and it could cause
such hypersensitivity on people that something like blowing like light

(11:40):
breeze through them in the in the summer could cause
them to have pain like they're just super triggered all
the time. And I had a case in the grosser
room a couple a mystery diagnosis of this a couple
of years ago that on Instagram and in the grosser room.
If you guys want to check out a picture of this,
because this particular patient and had discoloration in her skin

(12:03):
so bad that one leg was like purple and one
was white looking. It just it's crazy, and I've heard
that from If you would read the comments in the
grossroom and on Instagram under this post of people that
have gone through this, you could tell that they really
were suffering and there's really nothing they can do. For
it to make the pain go away, which is scary.

(12:26):
So number two we get into a bullet ant sting.
I've never heard of this, but they're native to rainforests
of Central and South Africa. So what's so painful about this?
It says that it triggers on muscle spasms and it
renders the affected area for hours afterwards, that due to
the venom of the animal that it's causing. Like it's

(12:49):
called the bullet ant sting because it's similar to the
feeling of being shot. I personally do not think that
this should be number two on the list because like
how many people really experience this, I don't know, like
if it's I don't know. I just think that it
probably hurts really bad. But it's like there's other things

(13:11):
on this list, like your condition, for example, that isn't
even on this list that you could say many more
people suffer from, And what endometriosis, Yeah, that many more
people suffer from and have pain with that didn't even
make the top ten. Like I just I think this
is so rando. I mean, there's probably lots of different
snake bites, animal bikes. I'm sure getting bit by a

(13:32):
shark don't feel good, like how acraland can you judge
if one person has not gone through all these things.
So some of the other things they list is what
you said, childbirth, and then finger amputation, Crown's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia,
kidney stones, migraine, et cetera. So I don't really to me,
I feel like there must be worse things. Like you're saying,

(13:53):
what if your whole leg gets bit off by shark?
You don't think that's a thing. Well, that's why I
think the bullet ant is rando, because there's just there's
definitely things that cause I mean, people could get in
a motorcycle accident, their leg, hen get ripped off. About
one of those chimpanzees that's ripping people's faces off exactly.
That's why that's random. It's just so it's so like
it's so specific finger amputation. Listen, like when I cut

(14:18):
my finger half off, that freaking hurts so bad. I mean,
I think like I had natural birth three times against
my will. I always say that I had natural birth
three times, which was which was up there, but like
I could other things that happen. Is like when I
caught my finger like that freaking really surprised me how

(14:40):
bad that hurt, because I caught through the nerve on
my finger, like and it's still it's still off years later,
Like it's it's always gonna feel funny for the rest
of my life. So I agree with that. Other things
like migraine and stuff like and listen, like migraines, I've
had them. They're they're terrible, but I feel like they're

(15:01):
like a dull pain. I don't know, there's just like
a difference between the pains in these situations too. To
your point, having gone through endometriosis via migraine, I would
say the endometriosis it's significantly worse pain than a migraine. Yeah,
I mean the migraine. The migraine sucks, but for most
of the time, if I take the medicine, it makes

(15:22):
it go away. I know that there's people that like
and I've had times where like I just take the
medicine and it just doesn't touch it, and it's it
is a frustrating thing to live with, for sure. And
I've never had kidney stones either, And people say that
they're equivalent to like they could say that a man

(15:42):
might feel a similar feeling, but like, listen, that's number
eight on the list. Okay, so like lots of other
people are feeling that. All right, So what else is it?
Did you cover everything? I can't say the last one,
so try geminoal neuroma or neuralgia. Uh. Yeah, it's referred
to as suicide disease, so I'm sure it's pretty painful.

(16:04):
It could be seen in MS patients. But this one
causes pain on your face, but it could cause like
sharp pains in your eye and stuff, which listen, Like
I always say this, like eye pain is the freakin
is the worst. Well, I'm surprised there's no dental things
in here either, because I think everybody that's had a like,
well I've never had like a dental infection per se,

(16:27):
but like I've had mouth pain and it just is
unlike anything else, and it's very hard to dull it
down once it starts. Yeah, that's true. I mean there's
just so many other things. It's just the list is
a little I mean, I'm expecting to see some of
the things and then other things. You're just like this
is just kind of random. Yeah, why finger amputation? Why
not toe amputation? Like not amputation generally, I can't imagine

(16:49):
any amputation feels good. Yeah, it is very bizarre, all right.
So on an episode of Science Quickly, they were exploring
the concept of squirting. And I think the question everybody
has in general is just is this a real thing?
So people try to argue with this all the time,
and I've been saying that it's p for years and
people are like, no, it's not, and blah blah blah

(17:09):
blah blah. So they were talking on this episode about this.
There's not first I guess you should say that there's
not like a ton of studies on this to say
one hundred percent, but just the things that people are
doing to try to figure this out. And one was
they were talking about this this French guynecologist who decided

(17:32):
to tell some people that worked with him, like, hey,
we're going to be doing a research project and tried
to get some women that he worked with who were
able to squirt to like this workplace misconduct. I don't know, Well,
it wasn't in America. It was it was in France.
So whatever, more open sexually over there, and like listen,

(17:55):
like they sometimes things have to be done in order
to scientifically prove something. And this is something that I
think is worth it because it's so annoying when people
are telling you that it's that it's not p. So
this is what they did. They they had a bunch
of these people that said that they were going to
engage in sexual activity and they were going to squirt,

(18:18):
and he was going to be able to test them
throughout the entire process. So first he checked all their bladders,
saw if they had pee and stuff, and were like, okay,
you guys have P and your bladder. Everybody go to
the bathroom right before you have sex. Okay, fine, And
then he's he has them going into a room and
then he has them, you know, partaking in whatever is

(18:39):
going to cause them to squirt. But he says, before
you feel like you're going to have an orgasm and
you're gonna squirt, make sure you call me and I'm
going to come back and take an ultrasound of your
bladder again. Okay. So he goes and he takes an
ultrasound of the bladder and sees that the bladder has
already within that show period of time, filled up all

(19:02):
of the way. So then he says, okay, go back
to your activity, finish it off, and then squirt. So
they do that, they squirt, He comes back, he takes
an ultrasound of their bladder again, and their bladders are empty.
So right there they figured out. And this is like
obviously not like a controlled study, and more stuff would

(19:24):
need to be done or whatever, but right there they're like, Okay,
the woman Peede, right before she started having sex, right
before she was about to have an orgasm, her bladder
was filled with urine. Again, she had the orgasm and
squirted afterwards, the bladder was empty. Therefore, whatever that fluid
that came out came out of the bladder and it's

(19:45):
p so and it was in multiple people, it's not
just like one person. So now they're saying, Okay, there's
something that the and they don't know if it's because
of like the increase in blood vessel activity that is
causing which in theory I guess it would. It would

(20:05):
cause you to pee more because it's pushing blood through
your kidneys at a faster rate and maybe creating urine faster.
But whatever happened in that interval between going to the
bathroom right before having sex and then right afterward or
right before orgasm. The bladder filled up, So that's what's
happening right there. In theory, if the bladder is filling

(20:27):
up that much, the PA might be less concentrated, so
it might not breathe bright yellow because you just went
to the bathroom fifteen minutes prior to that. So that
and and like when they looked at this chemically under
the microscope and they did all chemical tests on it,
they saw that there were things like uric acid in it,
which would be found in P. Like it's P. It's P.

(20:50):
I don't want to hear it. It's P. And like
this could even be proven in real life, like if
you have like let's say, for example, you go to
the bathroom and then you have sex, and then right
afterwards you have to go to the bathroom again. Like
you didn't have anything to drink, you didn't do anything.
It's just like this, this is what's happening. Like there's
something happening during sexual activity that's causing the bladder to

(21:12):
fill up and it's P. So like you might want
to be if you are doing porn and stuff, you
might want to say like, oh no, it's you're having
this female orgasm because you don't want to act like
you're pissing all over the dude, but like you are,
that's what's happening. Yes, And when I was in school
for photography, we learned about this photographer that set up

(21:35):
cameras in couple's bedrooms and then he like had them
hold a teather cable with the trigger. So then he
was like, Okay, when you're orgasming, take the picture. And
he took pictures of all these people's feet in their
bed like at the point of orgasm, and then did
this whole show. And I thought it was so weird
because my teacher thought it was like the coolest thing
he ever did. That is cool, Like why don't you

(21:55):
think that's cool? It just isn't so bizarre because it
just looks like a bunch of picks feet, But it's
like that's the point of it. That's why when you
go to army SAMs and stuff or galleries, it's important
to read the plaque because otherwise just thinking you're like,
you have a bunch of pictures of feet, but actually
there is some common denominator that connects them all. I
thought this was nuts, said they said, the world record

(22:17):
for squirting is one point three five leaders. That is
a lot, which is like close to a two liter
bottle of soda. Yes, but like listen, like if you
sat there and you and your bladder was like full.
You ever have those times where like it feels like
you're having an orgasm when you pee because it's like
the best feeling in the world because you were holding
it in for so long. It's like that much fluid

(22:38):
could come out for sure. So and then it's like
an Austin Powers style pee where you're just feet it
just whatever ends. That's that's how Gay piece all the time.
Like it's so weird. He dranks like a case of
phizzy every sing. I know, it's just weird. I'm like
sometimes he gets up in the middle of the iight
to pee and I'm like, how the hell is he

(22:59):
still in there? Like what is happening right now? It's
just like he's in there for like a while because
I feel him like leave bed, you know, and I'm
like this is so weird. Yeah, all right, Well, thank
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