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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
welcome The Mother nos Death. On today's episode, we're going
to be talking about Meghan Markle's postpartum preaclampsia, a child
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that came home from daycare that was missing something, a
murder for higher plot that is local to us. Actually,
so that's pretty interesting. Pet anxiety. Just wait till you
hear what I have to say about that, and what
happens if you steal a body temporarily from a funeral home.
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So lots of interesting stuff today. Let's get started with
Meghan Markle. So her podcast launched this week, The Confessions
of a Female Founder. But basically she had Whitney Wolf
hurt On, who is the founder of Bumble, and they
were talking and in their discussion it came up that
they both had pre acclampsia postpartum and you actually went
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through this, So do you want to talk about it? Yeah?
I actually had a serious thing happened. So it's crazy
on this podcast. They so what this is like a
new podcast that she started? Yeah, So she had this
big deal with Spotify a couple of years ago, so
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she came out with this show called Archetypes, and then
it was really weird and stiff, and then I believe
it came out that she wasn't even interviewing the people,
like a producer or an assistant was interviewing the guest,
and then they were stitching together her commentary, so it
sounded like she was interviewing them. But it must have
not hit the benchmarks with Spotify because it was this
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mega deal and they ended up dropping them. So she
got this new deal with Lemonada, and then she came
up with this show Cash Is of a Female Founder,
which I believe was the title of another show. I
don't understand how somebody on her level keeps getting in
these brand like copyright trademark situations that she's getting in.
She had to rename her entire jam or jelly brand
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or whatever because it was already taken, and I think
the new one she did, as ever, was the name
of another brand as well. That's crazy. I mean, when
you're not coming up with the ideas yourself, then that's
part of the problem. Yeah, I mean not. It's like
we we've talked about this before that. Remember we came
up with this genius idea to start this app that
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was what was it going to be called ipoop or
it was, Yeah, we came up with this app that
we were gonna call eyepoop, and so you could rate
public bathrooms but also exists. But also we we thought
that it would have like a map that had all
of the public bathrooms just for people that you know,
you're Let's say you're in a town and you have
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to go to the bathroom. It happens all the time,
and then you're like, I don't know where has a
toilet that I could use, because sometimes like the Anthropology
near us, right you go there and they don't have
a bathroom, and there's there's no place to go to
the bathroom when you're in that little shopping center. It's
so ridiculous. So if there was an app you could
pull up that showed a little toilet and even if
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it was like, hey, this is a coffee shop, you're
allowed to use the toilet, but like you had to
buy something, but there's still a toilet there. Because there's times,
especially people that get diarrhea and stuff, that you're like
I need a toilet, Like right now, I don't have
time to go into five stores. It's going to end bad.
So like obviously we were like, oh my god, this
is such a good idea, and we're legit thinking about it,
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and then we started looking into it and we're like, oh,
this already exists. So that happens sometimes too when you
come up with ideas because obviously, like other people must
have the same issue, right, Yeah. And I also saw
a pretty fair criticism of her show. I was looking
at the reviews last night and I said, you one
particularly brutal one. Wait, what did it tell them? What
it's says? Pull it up? But while I find that
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on my phone, so I saw a fair one that
was like, I would actually really like to hear this
show if it was hosted by somebody that founded a
successful business. And I'm like, you're not wrong. I mean,
she's launched all these different brands, and I wouldn't consider
any of them to be particularly successful. Well, I mean
the thing is is that she'll she'll get the listeners,
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and it's like she already has a lot of listeners, right,
and that's the ultimate goal. It does It does suck though,
when when people like I, it's the same thing, like
I wouldn't really consider her like this, this person that
should necessarily be celebrated like that because like she because
she is who she is, and she's not really doing
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it herself. It's not like she's a regular person that
started from scratch and that's what happened. And I mean, listen, like,
if you're married to Prince Harry, you had the opportunities
just keep calling for you. You don't. You don't have to
work as hard as the average person, not even a
little bit. Not to say not that to say that
she doesn't, but it's it's just like, come on, I'm
(05:11):
also not calling her Meghan of Sussex. You're not a
working royal. You you left and you don't get the title.
Your name is Megan Markle or if you want to
go by your husband's last name, like his actual last
name it's mount Batten windsor so like choose because you're
not a working royal, so therefore you don't get to
go by the title and use it to extend your
brand when all you've done is talk shit on that family.
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So like, I mean, she's doing it. So the review said,
would rather go down a slide with razors and a
pool of alcohol at the bottom and listen to this, Oh,
my god, that's you shouldn't be allowed to leave a
review unless you've actually listened. But I don't know, Like well,
I mean, there's no shortage of trolls in this world.
So anyway, let's get back to talking about what she said.
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So I know that there's you know, all these people
online say that she wasn't really pregnant and all this shit,
and it's kind of like, Okay, I don't know if
I'd go that far. Just relax anyway, So she's talking
with it. What's Bumble like, is it is the skincare
stop her? No, it's a dating app, but women could
mess women have well, I don't know if it's I'm
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so out of the loop ten years ago when I
had used it at a time, women would have to
initiate the conversation, like if you paired with somebody. Oh okay, wait,
oh that's the one that chrisper used at some point too. Yeah.
So it's it's like Tinder, but on Tinder either or
could message first. But on Bumble at the time I
use it, I assume it still works that way, the
female had to contact first. Okay. So anyway, she's talking
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to this woman and they both have. What they're saying,
is this rare condition, and they always say that it's rare,
but like I've heard so many people have it, which
is interesting. So preaclampsia is a condition that it affects
like five to eight percent of pregnancies, and it's characterized
by high blood pressure during pregnancy and sometimes fluid retention
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and you could have protein in the urine, So that's
something that is usually picked up. It's more common to
occur towards the end of pregnancy, which is one of
the reasons that they want to see you more often.
After twenty weeks, you have to go more frequently to appointments,
and you know, you go to the doctor and they
check to see if you have fluid in your ankles,
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and they checked your blood pressure and then if you
have high blood pressure, repeated high blood pressure readings, because
almost everyone that goes to the doctor has high blood
pressure just because they're usually like running from place to place,
and you go and they check it and it's high,
and they'll say they'll say, oh, this isn't good, and
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then they'll have you come back and check it and
if you definitely have like a true high blood pressure,
hypertensive moment. Then they're going to take a twenty four
hour you're in from you, which is they make you
pee in this jug for a whole entire day, and
they want to see if you're high protein in your urine.
And then once that happens, you're diagnosed with preeclampsia, and
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that in itself is a problem, but then it could
lead to a clampsia, which could cause strokes, it could
cause seizures, and it could lead to death. It could
lead to help syndrome, and that's what I had, and
we'll talk about that a little bit later. So post
part So normally, when you have preoclampsia, the cure is
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delivering the baby and then like it kind of just
goes away. And they think it has something to do
with the placenta and the blood vessels of the placenta.
So getting rid of the placenta just like makes this
go away. But in some people like Megan Markle this
this bumble CEO and myself, you get preeclampsia after you
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deliver within a day or two, and it's it's a
similar thing, but it's also kind of scary because number one,
you could have a completely normal pregnancy and it won't
and then it could happen. Number two, if you have preeclampsay,
you could also get it. But the worst part of it,
I guess, is that you start having symptoms and you
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might not notice it because now you're not really focused
on yourself being pregnant, but you just had went through
this traumatic experience of childbirth and you're taking care of
a newborn, so you might not even really realize you
have it. So what happened in my case is I
personally think that I way realized I had it, and
the people that were taking care of me was just
(09:31):
such a shit show, honestly, And I would never recommend
anybody to give birth at that particular hospital that's near me.
I don't want to say it, but like I tell
everybody I know to not go there. So what happened
was after I had Lilian. So I told you guys,
I gave natural childbirth three times, and what happened was
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the second time. So that was when I had Lilian.
For my first pregnancy of round two kids, I went
to get an epidoral and it was just like the
anithesiologist was just like a complete frazzled idiot and like
as soon as she saw that I had a giant
tattoo on my back, she was just like, Oh, I
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don't know if I could give you epidural and this
and that, and I'm just like, what are you talking about.
I know so many people that are tattooed that have
an epidural, So it was like she didn't know what
to do, which was to me ridiculous because I've never
heard of an anithesiologist doing that, Like what if you
have darker skin color, what if you're fat or something like.
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It's just ridiculous that that was an obstacle for her.
So I kind of already knew it was going to
be a problem. She attempted to give me the epidoral
three separate times and failed, like it never happened, and
I gave childbirth. So that's why I gave childbirth against
my will. Naturally, every single time I had a baby,
it was kind of like I want, I was down
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for it, but like it was against my will essentially.
So I give birth the Lilian, and then within like
a half hour of giving birth to her, I get
this massive headache. And I have a history of migraines.
I didn't have one the entire time I was pregnant,
so they just assumed it was like a hormonal thing
and this and that, and it was just it was
so so bad that it was distracting me from enjoying
(11:23):
this baby and this time with my husband and everything
because it was so debilitating. So they started giving me
medicine for it, kept giving me medicine for it. It
wasn't going away, Like nothing they were giving me was
touching it. And they finally and my blood pressure was
high the whole entire time. But they would read it
and it would be high, and then they'd leave the room,
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and then they'd come back and check it, and then
it was kind of better, and then they'd leave and
come back and then it was high. It was like
intermittently super high, and then kind of normal. And then
so then they were like, oh, maybe it's just because
you're in all this pain, that's why your blood pressure's high.
Like it was so ridiculous. And I just remember at
some point, like after they were giving me the medication again,
(12:06):
being like, listen, guys, I want you to scan my
head because I'm going I might be having a stroke
or something like this is such a bad headache. I
started having visual changes and it just was it was terrible,
like it was the worst feeling of a migraine that
I have ever had. So then they thought, oh, maybe
I was having a leak from my epidoral because I
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got poked three times. So you can get an epidoral
headache because the spinal fluid could leak slowly out of
the little hole that they puncture into your dora when
they're doing the epidoral. So then I had to get
this procedure called a blood patch, which is when they
take blood from your body and they put it back
into kind of hope a clotforms over this hole that
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is put in your epidoral space. And that was also
like a complete shit show because you when you normally
blood taken, it's with a vacutine or so it's those
little tubes, and they weren't able to do that because
they had to collect the blood straight and like sterile blood,
so they had to take it from a syringe like
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old school style. It just was like and then that
person that had to take the blood for that didn't
want to go through my tattoos. It was it was
just such a shit show. Anyway, The bottom line is
I go home. They they let me go because they
just determined that I did. They gave me the blood patch,
and I still had the headache and I don't know
why they let me leave with this headache. I go
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home that night, I you know, I'm nursing. I go
to sleep with the baby, and then I wake up
in the morning, and you know, Gabe and Iron bed together.
I wake up and my mouth. I said to him, like,
can you go get me a drink? My mouth is
so dry, Like I just had this feeling of like
like chunks of like dry mucus inside of my mouth
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or something. So I get up and I go in
the bathroom and when I look in the mirror, I
have like all of this brown stuff between my teeth
and I just don't even really think about it. I'm like, oh,
maybe it's like something I ate last night or whatever.
And Gabe comes behind me in the bathroom and he says, listen,
I don't want you to freak out, but I think
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that we need to go to the hospital. And I
was like, what are you talking about? Like it was
so weird, it was so scary, but he was serious,
you know, And I was like, why and he's just like,
I don't know what's happening, but there's a lot of
blood on your pillowcase and and something's not right, and
I just want to take you to the emergency room.
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And I was like, there's blood, and he's like, I
don't want you to look at it. I just want
to I want you to get in the car and
I'm going to take you to the hospital. And I
said okay, like I didn't know what was happening, And honestly,
I was probably disoriented because I feel like, knowing me,
i'd be like, no, I want to see that, I
need to take a picture of it. Whatever. So I
don't know. So we go to the hospital, go in
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the emergency room, and they thought it was urgent enough
to check me right away, because you know, normally you're
like waiting forever. They take my blood pressure. I don't
even know what the reading was, but it was so
high that they took me right back, and I was
like getting treatment with it very quickly, within a couple minutes,
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and I was getting an ultrasound on my liver and
I was getting all this blood work taken and they
just said okay, like I was having help syndrome, which
is when it's starting your blood cells are starting to burst.
So it's like help stance is h e LLP and
it stands for hemolysis and which is when the red
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blood cells break and also when you have elevavated liver
enzymes and a low plate A count. So what happened
was the platelets in your blood are will cause your
blood to clot And we were talking about that last
episode when we were talking about Nurse Hail dying during childbirth,
and my platelets were so low that my blood wasn't
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clotting and I was spontaneously bleeding through my mouth. And
that's what was happening, which is like seriously, like women
die from this. So they put me on It was crazy.
I got some ivy thing and I was magnesium. I
don't even know what drugs they were giving me. I
still had the headache, by the way, and was it
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just was the craziest time ever. So I get readmitted
to the hospital for a week now after I have
the baby. And now the most messed up part of
it is that my baby is no longer a patient
because she was discharged with me when I left the
first time, and they say, well, you're not. The baby
can't stay here with you because she's not a patient anymore.
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And I'm just like, what the actual fuck, Like this
is such bullshit because I was breastfeeding my kid and
then I breastfetter this whole time. It was crazy. It
was like my mom and Gabe had to take shifts
to stay with me at the hospital the entire time
because they wouldn't that was the only way they let
the baby in the room with me, and they were
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sticking the kid like on my boob, and I was
just completely out of it on whatever the medications they
were giving me were, and like, thank god I got
better and everything, but it's such a horrible time. It
was a really horrible time. So I'm not sure what
happened with her. Like obviously with her, she's such a
high profile, important person, so they caught it right away
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and they were able to treat her before it led
to this. But what I'm saying is like for everyone
that's listening, like it's something that you just need to
pay attention to, because I feel like at the hospital
they're just kind of like, so they have such a turnover,
like have the baby, make sure the people are stable,
get them out kind of thing, and like, I like,
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looking back, I really should have pushed, especially what I know,
But like at the same time, I'm telling you, like
I was probably having some kind of cognition problems as well,
Like I just kept remember being like think I really
thought I was having a stroke or something like It's
not your job to push. It should have been their
job to recognize what was going on with you and
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listen to you when you didn't feel okay enough to
be discharged. Well people might say that all the time,
though it's not even about what I was saying. It
was more about and they did. They gave me an
MRI and I wasn't having a stroke. I mean, they
did do that. And also but they really shouldn't have
let me go when my blood pressure was that high.
That that's just I mean, that was like a miss
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on them. And like what am I going to do,
like sue them? No, I can't do anything, Like ultimately,
I guess I'm still alive, Like who knows if it
caused any lasting damage or anything. And then you know,
then when I got pregnant again, it was like I
was a high risk pregnancy because of what happened previously,
so I mean that was kind of good. Honestly, I
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like being a high risk pregnancy because then you get
checked like way more than the average person. But may
you made me watch Steel Magnolia's Against My Will two
weeks before you gave birth, so that horrible scene in
the movie was just playing over and over and over
again in my head. Was so mad at you. I know,
I felt bad about that that because you like, yeah,
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of course, like Maria's just like, oh, like a lot
happened for Maria. It's like she's eighteen years old and
then all of a sudden, mom comes and picks me
up from school and she's like, everything's okay, but Mommy's
in the hospital. This is not okay. Yeah, Like I
don't I don't really know, Like I was pretty disoriented,
I guess because I just was like and like, kind
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of kudos to Gabe. I never really said this story
out loud like this, but I'm like, yeah, you know,
what's awesome like that he was that he was just
like something's terribly wrong and we need to go to
the hospital right now kind of thing. And I don't
know if he called momm or what happened, but like,
you know, I would have if I went back and
saw that too, I would have been like what the
hell and like left. But so so yeah, that's my
(20:05):
story with that. But so it's cool. I mean whatever.
I mean, if you love her or hate her whatever,
Like at least she's talking about stuff and whatever. So yeah,
I mean, this will this is a good first episode
for her, I guess, well for us in particular talking
about something medical. But I guess we'll see how the
(20:25):
show progresses. Yeah, I don't I really don't care, like
and listen, like everybody can make their own opinion about
those people and stuff, like you don't know what's going
on behind the scenes and everything like that. Like I
honestly feel like just like looking at pictures that people
don't look happy, but like what can you say, Like
(20:46):
you just don't know, and especially that those people's lives
with Princess Diana and the kids, and like it's just
like I can't even imagine like growing up as a
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stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. All right, so the next
story we're talking about is just some some bullshit that happens,
like when you're a working mom. Yeah, so this mom
(23:03):
calls her child's daycare in the afternoon to check in
on her and see how they're doing. And it seems
like the employee was like, we just happened to notice
one of your daughter's braids is missing. Yeah. So when
you think of that, if you hear us saying that, okay,
a kid's braid fell out, you'd just be like, all right, well,
they're little and sometimes they're attached by a little hair.
(23:25):
The weirdest part of this story is that this kid
has corn rows, and anybody that knows like the French
braid type goes down your head and is attached, how
would one row of it just fall off? Well, it's missing.
And if you see the photos of it, it looks
like if you see the before and after pictures, I
(23:47):
don't think it would be so obvious. It looks like
it had to be so carefully removed. When you think
of pulling hair out, you think of like straggly ends
from where it was ripped right or from where it
was cut off. It's so the way it's missing, it
really it is bizarre, Like it almost looks like someone
got clippers and like like like shave it off. It's
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it's it's just missing. It's like a complete bald spot.
So and I guess in theory, like if this kid
has you know, little kids sometimes have thinner hair, and
if this kid's getting her hair pulled really tight and
braided all the time, it's just there's an increased risk
of the hair falling out, so it might be thinner
than normal. But it's just when you look at the
(24:29):
surrounding corn rows, you're just like if it looked anything
like these, this is just so bizarre that this is missing.
So I guess she ended up calling the police over
it because the daycare center wouldn't really give her a
clear answer as to what happened, and like, seriously, I
would do the same exact thing, because what the hell happened, right,
(24:50):
because that that hurts. Whatever happened wants to hurt the kid, right. Yeah,
So the daycare is saying they have no clear evidence
of what happened. But then I guess police were reviewing
the security footage from the classroom and they saw all
morning the girl was playing with her braids. I mean,
this is a two year old too, so she can't
even vocalize what happened. So she they see her playing
with her braids in the morning, and then at some
(25:12):
point they see one of the daycare workers taking a
smock off of her, and then afterwards she's like touching
that area of her head a lot. So it's kind
of but then it was missing after the smock. It
is missing and they have no idea where it is.
Her brett in her hair is nowhere to be found.
It's very weird. It is very weird, and when you
guys see the picture of it, you're you're going to
(25:35):
understand that this is like so weird. So I'm glad
the mom called the cops because I would have done
the same thing. Yeah, I mean, I definitely wouldn't be
uncomfortable with it. And I think what the mom was
trying to get at is she's not necessarily angry that
the hair is missing. She's angry at the way the
daycare is handling it. Yeah, well, and listen, like when
you don't get a straight answer like that, then all
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of a sudden you're like, Okay, something shady because any
way that that came out, the kid had to cry
pretty significantly. There's no way that that didn't hurt, right,
I mean, just think about how much it hurts to
pull your hair. It's just I know's it came off accidentally. Yeah,
it's the whole entire thing is like the weirdest thing ever.
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And they clearly have before and after fixture. I mean,
it's one hundred percent missing. It's not even like they
rebraided her hair in a different way, like it's just
not there. Yeah, it's so bizarre. It is so bizarre.
All right, This next story is so messy, and of
course it's so gonna us because only the weirdest stuff happens.
So yeah, So I saw this story yesterday and I
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saw that it involved a Philly police officer. So I
was like oh, let me read this just because we
live here, right, And then I'm reading it and I'm like,
oh my god. I sent it to my mom because
it happened in the town that I grew up in,
So I was like, look, look what's happened in our
town since we left. So this twenty six year old
(26:57):
woman went on Tinder and offered this man she met
twelve thousand dollars to kill her boyfriend, her ex boyfriend
who was a Philly cop, and his nineteen year old daughter.
But the problem is the guy she met on Tinder
was a police informant, So of course she got arrested
pretty quickly. Like how what are the chances of that?
I was thinking that too, because like how much I
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guess there could be a lot of crime happening on Tinder.
But how do you get from like, let's go on
a date to can you kill my ex boyfriend and
her kid? Well, it seems like it said from March
thirty first April third day, exchanged several phone calls and
text messages and at all and throughout the process she
had expressed many times that she wanted her ex boyfriend
(27:42):
did so that's when she officially offered him the money.
So then they planned up to meet up at what
like the Dollar Tree or Dollar General in Glendora, which
is how we grew up in and that's where the
arrest was made. So yeah, so there's like so many
problems with the story. Number one, you're gonna offer somebody
twelve thousand dollars to kill two people? Like wait, this
(28:04):
is the best part. She was gonna give him five
hundred dollars up front and then pay him in installments,
Like I didn't know Hitman took like Klarna laughter, She
must be like she must be kind of like off,
there's no way obviously, you honestly think that you're going
to hire someone and give them a down payment, which
(28:26):
is what like no, like nothing five hundred dollars of
twelve hundred dollars and that's gonna be enough to get
somebody to actually want to kill two people? Like what
is what is happening there? Like mentally that you think
that that's well. This reminds me of a conversation we're
having at dinner last night with Lauren, where we were
talking about the judge in Coburger's case had decided that
(28:48):
they couldn't use the autism defense to get him out
of the death penalty, and that she was kind of
saying that could be messed up. But you have to
argue that every single person that commits murder has some
thing wrong with them, because a normal person would just
never do something like that. So you can't really take
mental illness in your yard off the table. No, I
think that that's I think I kind of disagree with
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that because if you say someone, there's people that have
like legitimate intellectual disability, okay, and and at that point,
I just don't consider a person first. Brian Coberger is
in a PhD program. Well, yeah, that's kind of where
I talk. He just got diagnosed with autism last month
(29:33):
or something like. He never was diagnosed with his whole life.
He doesn't have the inability to know right from wrong
just because of where he's been throughout his life. There
there definitely could be people on that spectrum that are
are cannot be considered, Like there's people that have autism
(29:54):
that like can't go to regular school and stuff and
they can't and and I don't ever think people with
a autism And I could be wrong because I don't
know much about it. I don't think that they have
intellectual disability. I just think they have a like even
if they have severe autism, it's because there's a communication problem.
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But they seem to be intelligent people that just that
just can't communicate and and can't regulate their emotions and
things like that. That to me is like not anywhere
near a like a defense for people committing crime, and
especially somebody that's like made it through high school and
(30:36):
every single level it is, in the highest level of college,
like he knows how to functions as a person in society.
Like the defense is ridiculous. But well, that's other things
like mental there's other mental health things like schizophrenia and
stuff like. No, that is I guess I wasn't articulating
what I was trying to say correctly, But to your
point what you just said, he was clearly a high
(30:58):
functioning person, so that diagnosed should not affect him. Because
if they were allowed to go through with that, how
many people can they go back to that we're convicted
of crimes that could potentially use that defect. I mean
everybody would everybody would would use it. And it's just
because like listen, like you see these videos for add
and autism that everybody's like if your kids got this
(31:20):
symptom and this symptom, and I'm like, every single time
I look at those videos, I'm like, yeah, I have autism,
and I have add I have all of it. And
you could find that in any person if you really
wanted to. And like, that's just the terrible slope to
go down because then like essentially nobody, everybody could get
diagnosed with something. I mean, come on, it's just so
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no that that's not going to work. And I'm glad
they said that that wasn't going to work. But there's
a difference between psychiatric illness like schizophrenia and just being
like a terrible person and like, yes, something's wrong with
you. You just have no you don't have any empathy, and
you don't have any you don't have like morals, and
(32:04):
that's probably in this case. But this girl's just i mean,
like offering the five hundred dollars doing this over tender.
So anyway, this cop met this ex girlfriend because she
was his barber, so they established they had gone out
for a while and he had just broken up with
her the month before, and then I guess she was
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so underweighth she gets the yeah, exactly, and you want
to kill his daughter too. I mean, I guess she
thinks that that's part of the reason why they're broken up.
Although if you think about this too, this woman's twenty
six and the daughter's nineteen, so they're like the same age. Yeah,
it is really weird. He must be like significantly older, right,
he's in his fifties. They were saying, Yeah, so that's
(32:48):
that's interesting. So I guess they're doing this investigation and
they call, they find the cop, and they tell him
about this. Could you imagine, like, especially being a police officer,
getting a phone call or a visit to your house
saying that somebody is trying to hire a hitman to
kill you, Like that's that's crazy. No, And then it's
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somebody you know. It's like I could see we've talked
about this with judges before and lawyers getting threats. I'm
sure cops get threats from people they've arrested too, but like,
this is somebody that you were just going out with
as of a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, it's very eerie. Okay,
this is probably my favorite story of the week. Yeah,
(33:31):
cause everybody get prepared because I just know you're gonna
blow up over this one. So MetLife recently did this
study and they revealed that nine and ten pet owners
reported noticing signs of separation anxiety from their pets, and
forty four percent of these people think that pet anxiety
days should be in the workplace in my lifetime and listen,
(33:56):
like I'm getting old forty five years. Like when I
was a kid, people like kept their dog outside all
day in like a doghouse, and that was considered to
be like okay, And now we're going from like that
to you want you literally want your your job to
offer benefits because you have anxiety about your pet. Like
(34:19):
it's not your job's problem you have a pet. But
I we get like a backbone here, seriously and like
like some resiliency, like it's okay, you can go to
work and leave your dog, Like your dog's gonna be
okay and you're gonna be okay. I just think it's wild.
And one of my neighbors has got a dog recently,
and she does leave the dog outside all day and
(34:39):
it barks all day and it like whales. And I'm
just like I am trying to work and I don't
want to like why did you get the pet if
you're's gonna stick it outside? That's really what I want
to say, Like if you like, why is this anybody
else's problem but yours and this pet? People are gonna
argue this about children to this is a problem that
(35:01):
doesn't need to exist too well, guess what I could
talk about that too, Like like I don't really understand
the point of having a kid either if you're not
gonna like spend time with them all day either. But
like it's the pet thing is just like you just
don't if you don't have time to be with the pet,
that just like, don't get a pet. It's it's like
the end of story. Like what's I don't understand. It
(35:24):
is weird because I feel like I often hear people
talking about like, oh, I have to get a dog,
and then they get a dog. And it's these people
I know that are traveling every single weekend. They work
from like eight o'clock in the morning till seven o'clock
at night. I'm like, you spend two hours a day
with your pet, and it's not a good quality of
life for the pet, always sticking them around, leaving them alone.
And this article is just like, oh, packages for the
(35:47):
employees are are necessary because it's not just a problem
for the pet. It's a full on emotional crisis for
owners too, and they want employers to acknowledge and take
care of their pets some mental health. Like what are
you talking about right now? This is so and listen,
Like I have a cat and I love her, and
(36:08):
I like she sleeps in my bed and stuff like that.
But like if we go away for a couple of days,
like I'm not I don't know, I'm just not losing
sleep over it. And I mean I think about like, oh, yeah,
she's probably like missing off because we've been gone for whatever.
But like who should be paying for that or like
paying for me to take off work. It's just like
(36:30):
don't you think that It's just completely outrageous. Yeah, of course.
And so it's like they're saying that. So part of
the survey, they asked a lot of questions and they
said that there's people that actually like take jobs to
work remotely so they could be home with their pet,
where they turn down jobs. So they if you want
(36:51):
to make that decision, that's fine, but if you have
to go into the office, you should not expect to
get a paid day off like you. Also, if you
have a child, shouldn't they get a paid day off
for childcare? Like you get a certain amount of PTO
and you need to use that appropriately. Yeah, and you could.
I mean I think that most jobs now, especially they
(37:13):
offer PTO and it's like paid time off. You know,
you get twenty six days a year and like do
whatever the hell you want, call out, sick, go on vacation.
Like why does it need to be specific for pets?
I don't know, because I find it hard to see
that there's any jobs that don't like lump it all
together at this point. Well, you don't pay anxiety days,
(37:34):
so like why and that's a human They they want
to have something called paulternity leave, which is like them
getting paid days off when they get a new pet
to acclimate the pet to their home. I think if
you want to, I think, if you're really attached to
your pet and you really want to be around it
all the time, it's your right to take a job
(37:55):
or decline a job whatever, but you should not expect
your job to accommodate your lifestyle choices, as they really
don't with kids as well, and really you get maternity
leave because you've just had a major thing up in
your body and you need time to yeald. All right.
So this professional snooker player, Jimmy White, was doing an interview.
Do you know it's snooker, It's no, it's kind it's
(38:17):
it's not the same as pool, but it's similar to
play kol okay. Anyway, So he was doing an interview
and he discussed that his brother died in nineteen ninety six,
and after the funeral, everybody went to this pub across
the street and they were sitting there really really missing
the brother. So this guy decides to go back across
the street to the funeral home, break into it because
(38:39):
at this point it was closed for the night, took
his brother's body, and then took him out for one
last time. I well, listen, I want to say that
he almost certainly had help doing this, because thinking about
and I hope to god the guy was embalmed. I'm
sure he was just thinking about taking around this stiff,
(38:59):
dead weight by he would have had to have help
from his friends. I think. I mean, it's it's kind
of it's kind of funny. It's a good story. He
didn't seem like he got in a lot of trouble
for it, right, But this is crazy to me because
he said he took him to a couple of places,
and I'm like, nobody at any of these places was like,
oh my god, what's happening and called it's weekend at Bernie's.
(39:21):
Like they just like put a Hawaiian shirt on him,
in sunglasses and like nobody knew what was going on. Yeah,
So he said he took him back to a couple
of places. Then they went back to the brother's house,
and then at like five or six in the morning,
they went back to the funeral home put him back.
They found him and then locked back up, and then
a couple of days later the police came and arrested him,
but they when he explained the situation, they were like,
(39:44):
why don't you just go apologize and like yeah, like
how like come on, how are you really going to
put someone in jail for that? That's it's like everybody understands.
It's you know, people people do like weirder things when
people die, and it's just like, I mean, we've had
stories on here of like people that their wife died
in the house with them and they just left them
(40:04):
there for six months. It's just like you don't really
know how you're going to react in that situation. And
even this guy, if you talked to him and said, like, hey,
would you ever take a dead body and like hang
out with it for the night, he'd probably say no.
But then when you're in the moment, you're drunk and
like it happens to you just do crazy things unreal. Well,
(40:25):
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was so much fun. And we're going to have him
on in a couple week. Why don't we have it
next week? Next week we're going to have him on,
(40:45):
So listen for that episode. Because he was a cop
and he was in New York. He has some crazy stories,
crazy life, so he's going to be able to contribute
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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
welcome The Mother nos Death. On today's episode, we're going
to be talking about Meghan Markle's postpartum preaclampsia, a child
(00:29):
that came home from daycare that was missing something, a
murder for higher plot that is local to us. Actually,
so that's pretty interesting. Pet anxiety. Just wait till you
hear what I have to say about that, and what
happens if you steal a body temporarily from a funeral home.
(00:50):
So lots of interesting stuff today. Let's get started with
Meghan Markle. So her podcast launched this week, The Confessions
of a Female Founder. But basically she had Whitney Wolf
hurt On, who is the founder of Bumble, and they
were talking and in their discussion it came up that
they both had pre acclampsia postpartum and you actually went
(01:11):
through this, So do you want to talk about it? Yeah?
I actually had a serious thing happened. So it's crazy
on this podcast. They so what this is like a
new podcast that she started? Yeah, So she had this
big deal with Spotify a couple of years ago, so
(01:31):
she came out with this show called Archetypes, and then
it was really weird and stiff, and then I believe
it came out that she wasn't even interviewing the people,
like a producer or an assistant was interviewing the guest,
and then they were stitching together her commentary, so it
sounded like she was interviewing them. But it must have
not hit the benchmarks with Spotify because it was this
(01:53):
mega deal and they ended up dropping them. So she
got this new deal with Lemonada, and then she came
up with this show Cash Is of a Female Founder,
which I believe was the title of another show. I
don't understand how somebody on her level keeps getting in
these brand like copyright trademark situations that she's getting in.
She had to rename her entire jam or jelly brand
(02:15):
or whatever because it was already taken, and I think
the new one she did, as ever, was the name
of another brand as well. That's crazy. I mean, when
you're not coming up with the ideas yourself, then that's
part of the problem. Yeah, I mean not. It's like
we we've talked about this before that. Remember we came
up with this genius idea to start this app that
(02:38):
was what was it going to be called ipoop or
it was, Yeah, we came up with this app that
we were gonna call eyepoop, and so you could rate
public bathrooms but also exists. But also we we thought
that it would have like a map that had all
of the public bathrooms just for people that you know,
you're Let's say you're in a town and you have
(02:58):
to go to the bathroom. It happens all the time,
and then you're like, I don't know where has a
toilet that I could use, because sometimes like the Anthropology
near us, right you go there and they don't have
a bathroom, and there's there's no place to go to
the bathroom when you're in that little shopping center. It's
so ridiculous. So if there was an app you could
pull up that showed a little toilet and even if
(03:19):
it was like, hey, this is a coffee shop, you're
allowed to use the toilet, but like you had to
buy something, but there's still a toilet there. Because there's times,
especially people that get diarrhea and stuff, that you're like
I need a toilet, Like right now, I don't have
time to go into five stores. It's going to end bad.
So like obviously we were like, oh my god, this
is such a good idea, and we're legit thinking about it,
(03:41):
and then we started looking into it and we're like, oh,
this already exists. So that happens sometimes too when you
come up with ideas because obviously, like other people must
have the same issue, right, Yeah. And I also saw
a pretty fair criticism of her show. I was looking
at the reviews last night and I said, you one
particularly brutal one. Wait, what did it tell them? What
it's says? Pull it up? But while I find that
(04:03):
on my phone, so I saw a fair one that
was like, I would actually really like to hear this
show if it was hosted by somebody that founded a
successful business. And I'm like, you're not wrong. I mean,
she's launched all these different brands, and I wouldn't consider
any of them to be particularly successful. Well, I mean
the thing is is that she'll she'll get the listeners,
(04:26):
and it's like she already has a lot of listeners, right,
and that's the ultimate goal. It does It does suck though,
when when people like I, it's the same thing, like
I wouldn't really consider her like this, this person that
should necessarily be celebrated like that because like she because
she is who she is, and she's not really doing
(04:47):
it herself. It's not like she's a regular person that
started from scratch and that's what happened. And I mean, listen, like,
if you're married to Prince Harry, you had the opportunities
just keep calling for you. You don't. You don't have to
work as hard as the average person, not even a
little bit. Not to say not that to say that
she doesn't, but it's it's just like, come on, I'm
(05:11):
also not calling her Meghan of Sussex. You're not a
working royal. You you left and you don't get the title.
Your name is Megan Markle or if you want to
go by your husband's last name, like his actual last
name it's mount Batten windsor so like choose because you're
not a working royal, so therefore you don't get to
go by the title and use it to extend your
brand when all you've done is talk shit on that family.
(05:33):
So like, I mean, she's doing it. So the review said,
would rather go down a slide with razors and a
pool of alcohol at the bottom and listen to this, Oh,
my god, that's you shouldn't be allowed to leave a
review unless you've actually listened. But I don't know, Like well,
I mean, there's no shortage of trolls in this world.
So anyway, let's get back to talking about what she said.
(05:56):
So I know that there's you know, all these people
online say that she wasn't really pregnant and all this shit,
and it's kind of like, Okay, I don't know if
I'd go that far. Just relax anyway, So she's talking
with it. What's Bumble like, is it is the skincare
stop her? No, it's a dating app, but women could
mess women have well, I don't know if it's I'm
(06:18):
so out of the loop ten years ago when I
had used it at a time, women would have to
initiate the conversation, like if you paired with somebody. Oh okay, wait,
oh that's the one that chrisper used at some point too. Yeah.
So it's it's like Tinder, but on Tinder either or
could message first. But on Bumble at the time I
use it, I assume it still works that way, the
female had to contact first. Okay. So anyway, she's talking
(06:41):
to this woman and they both have. What they're saying,
is this rare condition, and they always say that it's rare,
but like I've heard so many people have it, which
is interesting. So preaclampsia is a condition that it affects
like five to eight percent of pregnancies, and it's characterized
by high blood pressure during pregnancy and sometimes fluid retention
(07:04):
and you could have protein in the urine, So that's
something that is usually picked up. It's more common to
occur towards the end of pregnancy, which is one of
the reasons that they want to see you more often.
After twenty weeks, you have to go more frequently to appointments,
and you know, you go to the doctor and they
check to see if you have fluid in your ankles,
(07:25):
and they checked your blood pressure and then if you
have high blood pressure, repeated high blood pressure readings, because
almost everyone that goes to the doctor has high blood
pressure just because they're usually like running from place to place,
and you go and they check it and it's high,
and they'll say they'll say, oh, this isn't good, and
(07:46):
then they'll have you come back and check it and
if you definitely have like a true high blood pressure,
hypertensive moment. Then they're going to take a twenty four
hour you're in from you, which is they make you
pee in this jug for a whole entire day, and
they want to see if you're high protein in your urine.
And then once that happens, you're diagnosed with preeclampsia, and
(08:06):
that in itself is a problem, but then it could
lead to a clampsia, which could cause strokes, it could
cause seizures, and it could lead to death. It could
lead to help syndrome, and that's what I had, and
we'll talk about that a little bit later. So post
part So normally, when you have preoclampsia, the cure is
(08:27):
delivering the baby and then like it kind of just
goes away. And they think it has something to do
with the placenta and the blood vessels of the placenta.
So getting rid of the placenta just like makes this
go away. But in some people like Megan Markle this
this bumble CEO and myself, you get preeclampsia after you
(08:48):
deliver within a day or two, and it's it's a
similar thing, but it's also kind of scary because number one,
you could have a completely normal pregnancy and it won't
and then it could happen. Number two, if you have preeclampsay,
you could also get it. But the worst part of it,
I guess, is that you start having symptoms and you
(09:11):
might not notice it because now you're not really focused
on yourself being pregnant, but you just had went through
this traumatic experience of childbirth and you're taking care of
a newborn, so you might not even really realize you
have it. So what happened in my case is I
personally think that I way realized I had it, and
the people that were taking care of me was just
(09:31):
such a shit show, honestly, And I would never recommend
anybody to give birth at that particular hospital that's near me.
I don't want to say it, but like I tell
everybody I know to not go there. So what happened
was after I had Lilian. So I told you guys,
I gave natural childbirth three times, and what happened was
(09:57):
the second time. So that was when I had Lilian.
For my first pregnancy of round two kids, I went
to get an epidoral and it was just like the
anithesiologist was just like a complete frazzled idiot and like
as soon as she saw that I had a giant
tattoo on my back, she was just like, Oh, I
(10:18):
don't know if I could give you epidural and this
and that, and I'm just like, what are you talking about.
I know so many people that are tattooed that have
an epidural, So it was like she didn't know what
to do, which was to me ridiculous because I've never
heard of an anithesiologist doing that, Like what if you
have darker skin color, what if you're fat or something like.
(10:38):
It's just ridiculous that that was an obstacle for her.
So I kind of already knew it was going to
be a problem. She attempted to give me the epidoral
three separate times and failed, like it never happened, and
I gave childbirth. So that's why I gave childbirth against
my will. Naturally, every single time I had a baby,
it was kind of like I want, I was down
(11:00):
for it, but like it was against my will essentially.
So I give birth the Lilian, and then within like
a half hour of giving birth to her, I get
this massive headache. And I have a history of migraines.
I didn't have one the entire time I was pregnant,
so they just assumed it was like a hormonal thing
and this and that, and it was just it was
so so bad that it was distracting me from enjoying
(11:23):
this baby and this time with my husband and everything
because it was so debilitating. So they started giving me
medicine for it, kept giving me medicine for it. It
wasn't going away, Like nothing they were giving me was
touching it. And they finally and my blood pressure was
high the whole entire time. But they would read it
and it would be high, and then they'd leave the room,
(11:43):
and then they'd come back and check it, and then
it was kind of better, and then they'd leave and
come back and then it was high. It was like
intermittently super high, and then kind of normal. And then
so then they were like, oh, maybe it's just because
you're in all this pain, that's why your blood pressure's high.
Like it was so ridiculous. And I just remember at
some point, like after they were giving me the medication again,
(12:06):
being like, listen, guys, I want you to scan my
head because I'm going I might be having a stroke
or something like this is such a bad headache. I
started having visual changes and it just was it was terrible,
like it was the worst feeling of a migraine that
I have ever had. So then they thought, oh, maybe
I was having a leak from my epidoral because I
(12:28):
got poked three times. So you can get an epidoral
headache because the spinal fluid could leak slowly out of
the little hole that they puncture into your dora when
they're doing the epidoral. So then I had to get
this procedure called a blood patch, which is when they
take blood from your body and they put it back
into kind of hope a clotforms over this hole that
(12:51):
is put in your epidoral space. And that was also
like a complete shit show because you when you normally
blood taken, it's with a vacutine or so it's those
little tubes, and they weren't able to do that because
they had to collect the blood straight and like sterile blood,
so they had to take it from a syringe like
(13:11):
old school style. It just was like and then that
person that had to take the blood for that didn't
want to go through my tattoos. It was it was
just such a shit show. Anyway, The bottom line is
I go home. They they let me go because they
just determined that I did. They gave me the blood patch,
and I still had the headache and I don't know
why they let me leave with this headache. I go
(13:34):
home that night, I you know, I'm nursing. I go
to sleep with the baby, and then I wake up
in the morning, and you know, Gabe and Iron bed together.
I wake up and my mouth. I said to him, like,
can you go get me a drink? My mouth is
so dry, Like I just had this feeling of like
like chunks of like dry mucus inside of my mouth
(13:55):
or something. So I get up and I go in
the bathroom and when I look in the mirror, I
have like all of this brown stuff between my teeth
and I just don't even really think about it. I'm like, oh,
maybe it's like something I ate last night or whatever.
And Gabe comes behind me in the bathroom and he says, listen,
I don't want you to freak out, but I think
(14:16):
that we need to go to the hospital. And I
was like, what are you talking about? Like it was
so weird, it was so scary, but he was serious,
you know, And I was like, why and he's just like,
I don't know what's happening, but there's a lot of
blood on your pillowcase and and something's not right, and
I just want to take you to the emergency room.
(14:37):
And I was like, there's blood, and he's like, I
don't want you to look at it. I just want
to I want you to get in the car and
I'm going to take you to the hospital. And I
said okay, like I didn't know what was happening, And honestly,
I was probably disoriented because I feel like, knowing me,
i'd be like, no, I want to see that, I
need to take a picture of it. Whatever. So I
don't know. So we go to the hospital, go in
(14:59):
the emergency room, and they thought it was urgent enough
to check me right away, because you know, normally you're
like waiting forever. They take my blood pressure. I don't
even know what the reading was, but it was so
high that they took me right back, and I was
like getting treatment with it very quickly, within a couple minutes,
(15:19):
and I was getting an ultrasound on my liver and
I was getting all this blood work taken and they
just said okay, like I was having help syndrome, which
is when it's starting your blood cells are starting to burst.
So it's like help stance is h e LLP and
it stands for hemolysis and which is when the red
(15:42):
blood cells break and also when you have elevavated liver
enzymes and a low plate A count. So what happened
was the platelets in your blood are will cause your
blood to clot And we were talking about that last
episode when we were talking about Nurse Hail dying during childbirth,
and my platelets were so low that my blood wasn't
(16:04):
clotting and I was spontaneously bleeding through my mouth. And
that's what was happening, which is like seriously, like women
die from this. So they put me on It was crazy.
I got some ivy thing and I was magnesium. I
don't even know what drugs they were giving me. I
still had the headache, by the way, and was it
(16:28):
just was the craziest time ever. So I get readmitted
to the hospital for a week now after I have
the baby. And now the most messed up part of
it is that my baby is no longer a patient
because she was discharged with me when I left the
first time, and they say, well, you're not. The baby
can't stay here with you because she's not a patient anymore.
(16:49):
And I'm just like, what the actual fuck, Like this
is such bullshit because I was breastfeeding my kid and
then I breastfetter this whole time. It was crazy. It
was like my mom and Gabe had to take shifts
to stay with me at the hospital the entire time
because they wouldn't that was the only way they let
the baby in the room with me, and they were
(17:10):
sticking the kid like on my boob, and I was
just completely out of it on whatever the medications they
were giving me were, and like, thank god I got
better and everything, but it's such a horrible time. It
was a really horrible time. So I'm not sure what
happened with her. Like obviously with her, she's such a
high profile, important person, so they caught it right away
(17:34):
and they were able to treat her before it led
to this. But what I'm saying is like for everyone
that's listening, like it's something that you just need to
pay attention to, because I feel like at the hospital
they're just kind of like, so they have such a turnover,
like have the baby, make sure the people are stable,
get them out kind of thing, and like, I like,
(17:55):
looking back, I really should have pushed, especially what I know,
But like at the same time, I'm telling you, like
I was probably having some kind of cognition problems as well,
Like I just kept remember being like think I really
thought I was having a stroke or something like It's
not your job to push. It should have been their
job to recognize what was going on with you and
(18:17):
listen to you when you didn't feel okay enough to
be discharged. Well people might say that all the time,
though it's not even about what I was saying. It
was more about and they did. They gave me an
MRI and I wasn't having a stroke. I mean, they
did do that. And also but they really shouldn't have
let me go when my blood pressure was that high.
That that's just I mean, that was like a miss
(18:38):
on them. And like what am I going to do,
like sue them? No, I can't do anything, Like ultimately,
I guess I'm still alive, Like who knows if it
caused any lasting damage or anything. And then you know,
then when I got pregnant again, it was like I
was a high risk pregnancy because of what happened previously,
so I mean that was kind of good. Honestly, I
(18:59):
like being a high risk pregnancy because then you get
checked like way more than the average person. But may
you made me watch Steel Magnolia's Against My Will two
weeks before you gave birth, so that horrible scene in
the movie was just playing over and over and over
again in my head. Was so mad at you. I know,
I felt bad about that that because you like, yeah,
(19:20):
of course, like Maria's just like, oh, like a lot
happened for Maria. It's like she's eighteen years old and
then all of a sudden, mom comes and picks me
up from school and she's like, everything's okay, but Mommy's
in the hospital. This is not okay. Yeah, Like I
don't I don't really know, Like I was pretty disoriented,
I guess because I just was like and like, kind
(19:41):
of kudos to Gabe. I never really said this story
out loud like this, but I'm like, yeah, you know,
what's awesome like that he was that he was just
like something's terribly wrong and we need to go to
the hospital right now kind of thing. And I don't
know if he called momm or what happened, but like,
you know, I would have if I went back and
saw that too, I would have been like what the
hell and like left. But so so yeah, that's my
(20:05):
story with that. But so it's cool. I mean whatever.
I mean, if you love her or hate her whatever,
Like at least she's talking about stuff and whatever. So yeah,
I mean, this will this is a good first episode
for her, I guess, well for us in particular talking
about something medical. But I guess we'll see how the
(20:25):
show progresses. Yeah, I don't I really don't care, like
and listen, like everybody can make their own opinion about
those people and stuff, like you don't know what's going
on behind the scenes and everything like that. Like I
honestly feel like just like looking at pictures that people
don't look happy, but like what can you say, Like
(20:46):
you just don't know, and especially that those people's lives
with Princess Diana and the kids, and like it's just
like I can't even imagine like growing up as a
human and having to deal with that shit. Hey guys,
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stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. All right, so the next
story we're talking about is just some some bullshit that happens,
like when you're a working mom. Yeah, so this mom
(23:03):
calls her child's daycare in the afternoon to check in
on her and see how they're doing. And it seems
like the employee was like, we just happened to notice
one of your daughter's braids is missing. Yeah. So when
you think of that, if you hear us saying that, okay,
a kid's braid fell out, you'd just be like, all right, well,
they're little and sometimes they're attached by a little hair.
(23:25):
The weirdest part of this story is that this kid
has corn rows, and anybody that knows like the French
braid type goes down your head and is attached, how
would one row of it just fall off? Well, it's missing.
And if you see the photos of it, it looks
like if you see the before and after pictures, I
(23:47):
don't think it would be so obvious. It looks like
it had to be so carefully removed. When you think
of pulling hair out, you think of like straggly ends
from where it was ripped right or from where it
was cut off. It's so the way it's missing, it
really it is bizarre, Like it almost looks like someone
got clippers and like like like shave it off. It's
(24:08):
it's it's just missing. It's like a complete bald spot.
So and I guess in theory, like if this kid
has you know, little kids sometimes have thinner hair, and
if this kid's getting her hair pulled really tight and
braided all the time, it's just there's an increased risk
of the hair falling out, so it might be thinner
than normal. But it's just when you look at the
(24:29):
surrounding corn rows, you're just like if it looked anything
like these, this is just so bizarre that this is missing.
So I guess she ended up calling the police over
it because the daycare center wouldn't really give her a
clear answer as to what happened, and like, seriously, I
would do the same exact thing, because what the hell happened, right,
(24:50):
because that that hurts. Whatever happened wants to hurt the kid, right. Yeah,
So the daycare is saying they have no clear evidence
of what happened. But then I guess police were reviewing
the security footage from the classroom and they saw all
morning the girl was playing with her braids. I mean,
this is a two year old too, so she can't
even vocalize what happened. So she they see her playing
with her braids in the morning, and then at some
(25:12):
point they see one of the daycare workers taking a
smock off of her, and then afterwards she's like touching
that area of her head a lot. So it's kind
of but then it was missing after the smock. It
is missing and they have no idea where it is.
Her brett in her hair is nowhere to be found.
It's very weird. It is very weird, and when you
guys see the picture of it, you're you're going to
(25:35):
understand that this is like so weird. So I'm glad
the mom called the cops because I would have done
the same thing. Yeah, I mean, I definitely wouldn't be
uncomfortable with it. And I think what the mom was
trying to get at is she's not necessarily angry that
the hair is missing. She's angry at the way the
daycare is handling it. Yeah, well, and listen, like when
you don't get a straight answer like that, then all
(25:55):
of a sudden you're like, Okay, something shady because any
way that that came out, the kid had to cry
pretty significantly. There's no way that that didn't hurt, right,
I mean, just think about how much it hurts to
pull your hair. It's just I know's it came off accidentally. Yeah,
it's the whole entire thing is like the weirdest thing ever.
(26:16):
And they clearly have before and after fixture. I mean,
it's one hundred percent missing. It's not even like they
rebraided her hair in a different way, like it's just
not there. Yeah, it's so bizarre. It is so bizarre.
All right, This next story is so messy, and of
course it's so gonna us because only the weirdest stuff happens.
So yeah, So I saw this story yesterday and I
(26:37):
saw that it involved a Philly police officer. So I
was like oh, let me read this just because we
live here, right, And then I'm reading it and I'm like,
oh my god. I sent it to my mom because
it happened in the town that I grew up in,
So I was like, look, look what's happened in our
town since we left. So this twenty six year old
(26:57):
woman went on Tinder and offered this man she met
twelve thousand dollars to kill her boyfriend, her ex boyfriend
who was a Philly cop, and his nineteen year old daughter.
But the problem is the guy she met on Tinder
was a police informant, So of course she got arrested
pretty quickly. Like how what are the chances of that?
I was thinking that too, because like how much I
(27:20):
guess there could be a lot of crime happening on Tinder.
But how do you get from like, let's go on
a date to can you kill my ex boyfriend and
her kid? Well, it seems like it said from March
thirty first April third day, exchanged several phone calls and
text messages and at all and throughout the process she
had expressed many times that she wanted her ex boyfriend
(27:42):
did so that's when she officially offered him the money.
So then they planned up to meet up at what
like the Dollar Tree or Dollar General in Glendora, which
is how we grew up in and that's where the
arrest was made. So yeah, so there's like so many
problems with the story. Number one, you're gonna offer somebody
twelve thousand dollars to kill two people? Like wait, this
(28:04):
is the best part. She was gonna give him five
hundred dollars up front and then pay him in installments,
Like I didn't know Hitman took like Klarna laughter, She
must be like she must be kind of like off,
there's no way obviously, you honestly think that you're going
to hire someone and give them a down payment, which
(28:26):
is what like no, like nothing five hundred dollars of
twelve hundred dollars and that's gonna be enough to get
somebody to actually want to kill two people? Like what
is what is happening there? Like mentally that you think
that that's well. This reminds me of a conversation we're
having at dinner last night with Lauren, where we were
talking about the judge in Coburger's case had decided that
(28:48):
they couldn't use the autism defense to get him out
of the death penalty, and that she was kind of
saying that could be messed up. But you have to
argue that every single person that commits murder has some
thing wrong with them, because a normal person would just
never do something like that. So you can't really take
mental illness in your yard off the table. No, I
think that that's I think I kind of disagree with
(29:12):
that because if you say someone, there's people that have
like legitimate intellectual disability, okay, and and at that point,
I just don't consider a person first. Brian Coberger is
in a PhD program. Well, yeah, that's kind of where
I talk. He just got diagnosed with autism last month
(29:33):
or something like. He never was diagnosed with his whole life.
He doesn't have the inability to know right from wrong
just because of where he's been throughout his life. There
there definitely could be people on that spectrum that are
are cannot be considered, Like there's people that have autism
(29:54):
that like can't go to regular school and stuff and
they can't and and I don't ever think people with
a autism And I could be wrong because I don't
know much about it. I don't think that they have
intellectual disability. I just think they have a like even
if they have severe autism, it's because there's a communication problem.
(30:14):
But they seem to be intelligent people that just that
just can't communicate and and can't regulate their emotions and
things like that. That to me is like not anywhere
near a like a defense for people committing crime, and
especially somebody that's like made it through high school and
(30:36):
every single level it is, in the highest level of college,
like he knows how to functions as a person in society.
Like the defense is ridiculous. But well, that's other things
like mental there's other mental health things like schizophrenia and
stuff like. No, that is I guess I wasn't articulating
what I was trying to say correctly, But to your
point what you just said, he was clearly a high
(30:58):
functioning person, so that diagnosed should not affect him. Because
if they were allowed to go through with that, how
many people can they go back to that we're convicted
of crimes that could potentially use that defect. I mean
everybody would everybody would would use it. And it's just
because like listen, like you see these videos for add
and autism that everybody's like if your kids got this
(31:20):
symptom and this symptom, and I'm like, every single time
I look at those videos, I'm like, yeah, I have autism,
and I have add I have all of it. And
you could find that in any person if you really
wanted to. And like, that's just the terrible slope to
go down because then like essentially nobody, everybody could get
diagnosed with something. I mean, come on, it's just so
(31:42):
no that that's not going to work. And I'm glad
they said that that wasn't going to work. But there's
a difference between psychiatric illness like schizophrenia and just being
like a terrible person and like, yes, something's wrong with
you. You just have no you don't have any empathy, and
you don't have any you don't have like morals, and
(32:04):
that's probably in this case. But this girl's just i mean,
like offering the five hundred dollars doing this over tender.
So anyway, this cop met this ex girlfriend because she
was his barber, so they established they had gone out
for a while and he had just broken up with
her the month before, and then I guess she was
(32:25):
so underweighth she gets the yeah, exactly, and you want
to kill his daughter too. I mean, I guess she
thinks that that's part of the reason why they're broken up.
Although if you think about this too, this woman's twenty
six and the daughter's nineteen, so they're like the same age. Yeah,
it is really weird. He must be like significantly older, right,
he's in his fifties. They were saying, Yeah, so that's
(32:48):
that's interesting. So I guess they're doing this investigation and
they call, they find the cop, and they tell him
about this. Could you imagine, like, especially being a police officer,
getting a phone call or a visit to your house
saying that somebody is trying to hire a hitman to
kill you, Like that's that's crazy. No, And then it's
(33:11):
somebody you know. It's like I could see we've talked
about this with judges before and lawyers getting threats. I'm
sure cops get threats from people they've arrested too, but like,
this is somebody that you were just going out with
as of a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, it's very eerie. Okay,
this is probably my favorite story of the week. Yeah,
(33:31):
cause everybody get prepared because I just know you're gonna
blow up over this one. So MetLife recently did this
study and they revealed that nine and ten pet owners
reported noticing signs of separation anxiety from their pets, and
forty four percent of these people think that pet anxiety
days should be in the workplace in my lifetime and listen,
(33:56):
like I'm getting old forty five years. Like when I
was a kid, people like kept their dog outside all
day in like a doghouse, and that was considered to
be like okay, And now we're going from like that
to you want you literally want your your job to
offer benefits because you have anxiety about your pet. Like
(34:19):
it's not your job's problem you have a pet. But
I we get like a backbone here, seriously and like
like some resiliency, like it's okay, you can go to
work and leave your dog, Like your dog's gonna be
okay and you're gonna be okay. I just think it's wild.
And one of my neighbors has got a dog recently,
and she does leave the dog outside all day and
(34:39):
it barks all day and it like whales. And I'm
just like I am trying to work and I don't
want to like why did you get the pet if
you're's gonna stick it outside? That's really what I want
to say, Like if you like, why is this anybody
else's problem but yours and this pet? People are gonna
argue this about children to this is a problem that
(35:01):
doesn't need to exist too well, guess what I could
talk about that too, Like like I don't really understand
the point of having a kid either if you're not
gonna like spend time with them all day either. But
like it's the pet thing is just like you just
don't if you don't have time to be with the pet,
that just like, don't get a pet. It's it's like
the end of story. Like what's I don't understand. It
(35:24):
is weird because I feel like I often hear people
talking about like, oh, I have to get a dog,
and then they get a dog. And it's these people
I know that are traveling every single weekend. They work
from like eight o'clock in the morning till seven o'clock
at night. I'm like, you spend two hours a day
with your pet, and it's not a good quality of
life for the pet, always sticking them around, leaving them alone.
And this article is just like, oh, packages for the
(35:47):
employees are are necessary because it's not just a problem
for the pet. It's a full on emotional crisis for
owners too, and they want employers to acknowledge and take
care of their pets some mental health. Like what are
you talking about right now? This is so and listen,
Like I have a cat and I love her, and
(36:08):
I like she sleeps in my bed and stuff like that.
But like if we go away for a couple of days,
like I'm not I don't know, I'm just not losing
sleep over it. And I mean I think about like, oh, yeah,
she's probably like missing off because we've been gone for whatever.
But like who should be paying for that or like
paying for me to take off work. It's just like
(36:30):
don't you think that It's just completely outrageous. Yeah, of course.
And so it's like they're saying that. So part of
the survey, they asked a lot of questions and they
said that there's people that actually like take jobs to
work remotely so they could be home with their pet,
where they turn down jobs. So they if you want
(36:51):
to make that decision, that's fine, but if you have
to go into the office, you should not expect to
get a paid day off like you. Also, if you
have a child, shouldn't they get a paid day off
for childcare? Like you get a certain amount of PTO
and you need to use that appropriately. Yeah, and you could.
I mean I think that most jobs now, especially they
(37:13):
offer PTO and it's like paid time off. You know,
you get twenty six days a year and like do
whatever the hell you want, call out, sick, go on vacation.
Like why does it need to be specific for pets?
I don't know, because I find it hard to see
that there's any jobs that don't like lump it all
together at this point. Well, you don't pay anxiety days,
(37:34):
so like why and that's a human They they want
to have something called paulternity leave, which is like them
getting paid days off when they get a new pet
to acclimate the pet to their home. I think if
you want to, I think, if you're really attached to
your pet and you really want to be around it
all the time, it's your right to take a job
(37:55):
or decline a job whatever, but you should not expect
your job to accommodate your lifestyle choices, as they really
don't with kids as well, and really you get maternity
leave because you've just had a major thing up in
your body and you need time to yeald. All right.
So this professional snooker player, Jimmy White, was doing an interview.
Do you know it's snooker, It's no, it's kind it's
(38:17):
it's not the same as pool, but it's similar to
play kol okay. Anyway, So he was doing an interview
and he discussed that his brother died in nineteen ninety six,
and after the funeral, everybody went to this pub across
the street and they were sitting there really really missing
the brother. So this guy decides to go back across
the street to the funeral home, break into it because
(38:39):
at this point it was closed for the night, took
his brother's body, and then took him out for one
last time. I well, listen, I want to say that
he almost certainly had help doing this, because thinking about
and I hope to god the guy was embalmed. I'm
sure he was just thinking about taking around this stiff,
(38:59):
dead weight by he would have had to have help
from his friends. I think. I mean, it's it's kind
of it's kind of funny. It's a good story. He
didn't seem like he got in a lot of trouble
for it, right, But this is crazy to me because
he said he took him to a couple of places,
and I'm like, nobody at any of these places was like,
oh my god, what's happening and called it's weekend at Bernie's.
(39:21):
Like they just like put a Hawaiian shirt on him,
in sunglasses and like nobody knew what was going on. Yeah,
So he said he took him back to a couple
of places. Then they went back to the brother's house,
and then at like five or six in the morning,
they went back to the funeral home put him back.
They found him and then locked back up, and then
a couple of days later the police came and arrested him,
but they when he explained the situation, they were like,
(39:44):
why don't you just go apologize and like yeah, like
how like come on, how are you really going to
put someone in jail for that? That's it's like everybody understands.
It's you know, people people do like weirder things when
people die, and it's just like, I mean, we've had
stories on here of like people that their wife died
in the house with them and they just left them
(40:04):
there for six months. It's just like you don't really
know how you're going to react in that situation. And
even this guy, if you talked to him and said, like, hey,
would you ever take a dead body and like hang
out with it for the night, he'd probably say no.
But then when you're in the moment, you're drunk and
like it happens to you just do crazy things unreal. Well,
(40:25):
thank you guys so much. Don't forget to submit your
entries for the one million download giveaway, and also check
us out on the gold Shields podcast. We recorded it
a couple of weeks ago and of such an awesome
conversation with Tom and Lauren Conlin. Awesome show. Yeah, that
was so much fun. And we're going to have him
on in a couple week. Why don't we have it
next week? Next week we're going to have him on,
(40:45):
So listen for that episode. Because he was a cop
and he was in New York. He has some crazy stories,
crazy life, so he's going to be able to contribute
a lot to some of our stories. Yes, you guys
next week, say I have a good weekend. Thank you
(41:06):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!