On today’s MKD, we get into the arrest of reality star Tamika Chesser after her partner was found beheaded, former UFC fighter Ben Askren's double lung transplant, a toddler stung by wasps over 150 times, a fisherman stabbed by a fish in his throat, and a man who threw a machete at a motorcycle.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have some interesting
stories for you today. First, we're going to start off
with a reality TV star who killed her partner and
there is a very important piece of evidence missing. A
healthy former UFC fighter who got sick and needed a
double lung transplant. A cute little boy. Oh my god,
you guys should see the pictures. It's so sad who
(00:42):
got stung over one hundred and fifty times by wasps,
an ironic case of a fisherman who was able to
feel exactly what a fish feels like when a giant
hook goes into their mouth and a guy who randomly
killed a woman with a machete when he thought he
was protecting his daughter. Let's get started with this story
of this former reality TV star who killed her partner.
(01:06):
What happened there?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, So Australian police got this call that there was
a fire and when they got there, they found this
thirty nine year old man dead. He was dismembered and
his head was missing. And now his girlfriend, who's Tamika
Chesser of Beauty in the Geek Australia has been arrested
and charged with his murder.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, so they found all of his body parts. She
did admit to killing him, right, but is not saying
where his head is. So currently it's missing. His family
would really like it back for obvious reasons, and we
don't know what she did with it. We don't know
where it's at. So that's where we're at right now
with this case.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's did you see how bizarre it was that she
was just like they said, she was found in a
catatonic state in the garden after they found him.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, I mean that's probably what happened that usually, So
this is what's interesting about this case actually, because people
who are serial killers most of the time you see
in these cases that they keep a trophy sometimes, so
you would keep the head, right if you were a
serial killer maybe in a case, but in this particular case,
it's more than likely a domestic situation, right, that they
(02:16):
got in some kind of a fight and she just
went nuts and killed the guy. Right, So it's just
really interesting to see what she did, what she did
with his head, what she's doing with his head, and
it's it's also just like above and beyond killing someone
when you dismember them. I don't know if she was
trying to Was that the point that she dismembered them
and she was trying to set a fire to burn
(02:38):
up his body faster? Maybe is that what she was
trying to do. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, But isn't that proven in most cases?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Aren't there a lot of people that do stuff like
that and it never really works.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like, it doesn't work. You can never get a fire
temperature that high in a house to be able to
totally cremate a body down to dust.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Like.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It never works. But people think, Yeah, people think that
that's what they're doing, but they don't know that you're
going to do an autopsy afterwards and find out exactly
how the person died. So they're still in a situation
like that. There could still be soft tissue present, and
they could see that the guy was dismembered before or
after death, depending on what it happens. Sometimes they could
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see things like bullet wounds or other stab wounds that
would show what his cause of death was. So I'm
not exactly sure what she thought she was getting away with,
but I mean, usually it's actually a little bit of
a relief when somebody kills them, one dismembers them and
sets the house on fire. At least they're in a
different state of mind. They're not just like going to
(03:40):
the grocery store and food shopping or something right after
something like that. So maybe that's it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, the police have released video of her walking around
in the outfit she was wearing the day of the
suspected killing, the day they suspect that he was killed,
because they want to try to see if she transported
his head anywhere, because they can't find it and she
didn't drive her anything, so they think they're going to
be able to track her movements via walking around the town.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, that's really interesting and I'm curious what her reasoning
was behind that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, imagine going on your ring doorbell footage and finding
like a person walking the streets with a human head
or Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We have cases, we have cases in the gross room
of people killing people and just walking around holding a
human head by the hair. It is so disturbing. But
there's been cases of that, for sure. But also they
were just domestic cases seem you know, like a crime
of passion, a huge fight that caused something like this
to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Okay, So Ben Askrin, who's forty years old, he's a
former UFC fighter, boxer and Olympic wrestler. A couple of
weeks ago, he seemingly got a staff infection that turned
into pneumonia. He got really sick. His wife had posted
that he was in the hospital and now he needs
a double lung transplant. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It went down really quick too, within a couple weeks.
So apparently he's I mean, he's a UFC fighter, so
he is in good shape. He was in good health
before this happened. And sometimes people could just get staff
infections and they could get really nasty because that bacteria
could be nasty, especially depending on what kind of strain
it is. So we have sometimes we have staff normally
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inside of our nostril and stuff, and it could get
into our bodies that way. Other times, like with IVY,
drug users especially are at an increased risk of getting
these kinds of infections because they're staff on the skin
and then using dirty needles repeated LYE can also cause
this type of infection in a person. And I don't
think that that was happening with him. This is just
(05:41):
something a freak thing that happened. He might have just
just because he's so young and stuff. He might have
just thought that he had a typical cold and didn't
go get treatment until it was far more advanced than
it should have been. And what happens is that the
staff bacteria causes something called necrotizing pneumonia, which is it
(06:03):
kills the lung tissue, and it also causes like a pus,
and once if you do survive that, once it starts healing,
the lung heals with a lot of fibrous scar tissue,
causing pulmonary fibrosis. And you could also get something called
bronchiectusis when the airways are permanently dilated, and these two
(06:26):
things prevent oxygen exchange, and ultimately that's what your lungs do,
and you can't live without them. You could live with
one lung, but if he had double pneumonia in both lungs,
then that means the only way that he was going
to be able to live for the rest of his
life he's so young, is to get new lungs. So
with that, if you need lungs to live and you're
(06:48):
getting two lungs from someone, that means that you're getting
them from a dead person, someone that died, likely in
a car accident or something like that, which is why
organ donation is so important, because because if someone dies
in a car accident, their lungs are perfectly fine. Now
they could get transplanted into a guy like this, So
he still has a long road ahead of him, but
(07:10):
it's good that. I mean, he was put on the
transplant list not too long ago and got lungs already there.
That I was gonna ask about is that So I'm
not really sure how it works with lung So I
know some people that are on the transplant list are
on it sometimes for years, Like could they theoretically keep
him alive on machines until they're ready or what is
(07:33):
in that condition?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Not?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, it's not good. It wouldn't be good to
be on a ventilator like that for years, even if
that was possible. But they look at there's a lot
of different things they look at when they do a transplant.
So number one, they just look at the size of
a person. Just just think this guy, he might be
(07:55):
kind of a bigger guy because he's a UFC fighter,
yet might have a bigger chest or something I'm not
sure of his body build, but they look at can
the lungs actually fit into the chest cavity, because like,
let's pretend a guy that's like six foot five dies
in a car accident. Are you going to put those
lungs inside of like your tiny frame. No, it's not
(08:17):
gonna fit, you know what I mean. So they look
at just like physical size, is it even going to fit?
And then they check the blood type, and they do
the tissue type just to make sure that you're gonna
have the least chance of rejection. And then they look
at things like how bad do you need these lungs,
like can you live another year with assistance or not?
(08:37):
And he probably was really really bad, like no matter
what medications they gave him, ventilation, everything, like he was
going to die imminently. So that's why they decided to
bump him up kind of to get these lungs, and
it all worked out. So that's the first part of
the battle. And then the next part is obviously like
long transplants have a higher risk of rejection, mainly because
(09:02):
of it's a very intricate surgery. When you breathe in air,
your lungs take in the oxygen, which then goes into
your bloodstream, and that's how the oxygen gets all over
your body. So once that blood goes to all of
the organs, it goes back to the heart, and then
it goes through the heart and it goes back into
(09:22):
the lungs to pick up more oxygen. So those two
organs work together, and if one's not working correctly, the
other one's not going to work correctly. So it's just
a very intricate surgery. On top of that, when people
get organ transplants, they get put on so many kinds
of drugs because they're immune. They don't want their immune
(09:42):
system to reject these new organs transplants, sometimes especially too
in otherwise young healthy people like this guy, like his
immune system's awesome, so it's just going to want to
attack these new lungs, so they really need to suppress it.
And when they do, unfortunately, he's a risk of getting
infections that normal people wouldn't get. And it's especially bad
(10:05):
to get one of these infections in these new lungs
and you're trying to get to stick, you know, So
he has a long road ahead with the rejection, with
the potential risk of infections, but there are people that
get this surgery done and go on to live a
long time after that, so we're just hoping for the
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(10:34):
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, so, oh my god, this cute little boy. Did
you see the pictures of them getting stung by all
of these wasps.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
His he just looks so sad. I know, they made
me so sad.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
He's so cute in the pictures, and his like you know,
little baby fat skin is like covered in these stings.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And all he was doing was like riding his little
bike or like a it seems like a.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Riding in a toy car, and then accidentally hit the
nest and they just went crazy. He was stung over
one hundred and fifty times by wasps. I can't fathom
how painful this is. When I was a little kid,
I was we were at Antina's lake house, and I
don't know why. I was like using my kid brain
walking to the car to get something, and her driveway
was rocks, and you know when you're a little kid,
(12:12):
I'm like, oh, if I close my eyes, I won't
hurt to walk on rocks barefoot, like that makes any sense.
But I was doing that and my hand hit a
benus and I got stung three times, and that was horrible.
I can't imagine one hundred and fifty times when you're.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And these are probably way more painful and intense than
a regular beasting for sure. Oh, we we have these
in my backyard actually because they make their nests inside
of the ground. So they were right before we got
the multra replace. This year, we had a huge problem
and I kept spraying and they I almost called an
(12:46):
exterminator because they're they're near the pool and I'm like,
I don't need all of these dangerous bees or wasp
around the pool, you know. But it's scary because they're
the kids where the kids jump into the pool. They're
on the ground there in a little hole, like you
could barely see them. And these kinds of wasp are
the most likely to sting people, so they're kind of
(13:10):
they're kind of like looking around waiting to get disturbed
into and they attack. And it's not like a normal
beasting where the big this stinger will fall out like
it can go in several times and they just go nuts.
Like once they do it, they just can repeatedly sting someone.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, And obviously because of how extreme this was, he
started having problems too.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well. The mom took them obviously, this is what you
should do in any case, is that she took them
to the hospital right away to get checked out. And
they don't have an anti venom for this, so they
just do, Okay, well, we're just going to treat them
for his symptoms right now, which is giving them benadryl
and just you know, just keeping an eye making sure
(13:54):
his vitals are okay. And he was fine, so they
discharged him. But you could have a reaction to the
toxins hours later, and that's what happened in this case.
It most commonly occurs in situations like this where you're
getting if you don't have an allergy, because everybody doesn't
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have an allergy to it, but when you get stung
one hundred and fifty times, especially when you weigh what
thirty some pounds forty pounds, you know, when you're like
a little kid like that, it's just too much venom
in your body for your little especially the little tiny
body to handle. And he started having a reaction at home.
(14:36):
His mom noticed that his skin was yellow, Like, how
traumatizing is that? I know, brought him to the hospital
right away, and then they metavacked him to another hospital
which is even scarier. So now he seems to be
doing okay. They just kind of have to treat him
for what's happening. But he was going into liver failure.
That's why he was yellow. He was actually johndice and
(14:58):
kidney failure. So they were able to get it under
control in the ICU, and he seems to be recovering.
But it's just it's so sad because it's it's not
really it's not really anything. What could the mom have
done differently, Like, it's just you're outside in nature and
this stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
There's there's bugs, Like, yeah, it's just purely an accident.
I mean, there's nothing you can do. Hopefully, because he
was so little, he won't have any memory or hopefully
he won't have any long term complications from this.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
But it's super scary.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Why are they so angry?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They seem like they're like, yeah, they I don't know
what's going on in their life. They're so angry. You
want to hear something interesting that I learned though. They
said that if you get stung by this and your
home and like obviously if you get stung once and
you know you're not having an allergy, because there's a
difference between like this kid didn't have what you would
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consider to be an anaphylaxic shock, which is what you
would see when you have a severe allergy, although he
might be at an increase verse for that in the
future now because of this happening, he was having a
reaction to the toxin, which was a little bit different.
But if you just get stung and you're kind of
like al that really hurts and there's like a small
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hive around it, you're fine or whatever. But they said
that if you make a mixture with meat tenderizer and
put it around the sting site, that it could actually
help like dissolve the venom that's in the localized reaction there,
which I thought was interesting. And then it said if
you don't have meat tender because I was like, I
don't have meat tender. I don't even know. I don't know,
(16:36):
I don't have it at my house. But they said
that you could use deodorant that's aluminum based or baking soda.
So I thought that that was just like an interesting
little tidbit that I never would have thought of if
I got stung like that.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, I don't think I would think of that either.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So hopefully what does help somebody listening to the Yes,
this story, it does scare me a little bit though,
because I said I do have them in my yard
and I'm constantly like when I was spraying them in
the beginning of the season, I'm actually surprised that I
didn't get attacked because there was probably ten to twenty
of them like swarming around the area I kept spraying
with that stuff, which they were impervious to, by the way,
(17:16):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I feel like just getting the new mult poured over
their nest kind of helped, and maybe it took a
while for the poison to kill them. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Also side note, if you hear background noise, it's thundering
really bad right now, so I might have to leave
and go in my bunker. But no, just it's super loud.
I don't know if you could hear it on your infoot.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Well, I have it at my house too.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Oh yeah, it's about the storm really bad.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So I've been hearing brewing in the background and now
it just like was so loud right next to this window.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, I was just driving. Well, I just texted you
when I just came home from the doctor, and I
texted you and was like, oh, it looks angry out,
which is kind of it's like kind of early for
that today, but it's the season. It is so swampy
and gross. I did post a picture on my Instagram,
did you say it of the of the condensation on
(18:11):
the inside of our house. It's just so gross because
of the heat outside in the cold air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And I know the weather can't be perfect, but I'm
checking the radar when I was at your house yesterday,
for example, Like I'm checking the radar and it says
it's going to hit around five o'clock and then we're
not going to have any rain. The rest of the night.
I could not sleep all night it was so loud,
the thunder and the rain smacking against the window. And
this morning I check and it says it's not going
(18:38):
to rain until six o'clock. And it's thundering horribly right now,
so like I haven't even looked outside yet, I'm sure
it's down pooring.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
We always had a saying in pathology that like, weather
forecasters are like radiologists, no offense to any radiologists listening
that they could they could just like guess something. It's
just funny because some of some of the diegosis that
we would see would just be like, can't roll out cancer,
can't roll out infection, can't roll out other neoplasm, And
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you're just like, oh so it just could be whatever,
Like you just throw out a bunch of stuff and
you don't really have any true responsibility when it's not
that or whatever. But not to say that they don't.
It's just it was just like a funny joke that
we said. But yeah, so it's it's the same here.
So we know that Maria is like always on storm alert,
(19:28):
she's got all she One time there was this tornado
and she was sending me pictures like she's tracking it
on the app to see where it's at and stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well it landed in a town next to me. It's
not like it was like fifty miles.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So we always joke that she has a bunker that
she goes to when it rainstorms. All right, let's get
onto this next one, and we should sat up like
a little podcast area there so we could get live updates. Yeah, well,
if my internet suff goes out, how are you gonna
get live updates? What that day in particular that you're
talking about was so scary because it was like green outside.
(20:03):
The tornado did touch down in the town next to me.
My phone went on SOS mode. Thank god my power
didn't go out, and I had all our people in
the Midwest think you're a little you're a little whiny bitch.
Oh we never had them ever, are well we have
them now, So it's part of life.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Well, yeah, I'm just not used to it because I
remember one my life.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Have you seen the videos of like there was like
a crazy tornado in South Dakota or something this week?
Like our little f one minus things are nothing compared
to these things, And this is like people's every day.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But those people have, like legit, they.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Have an underground like Wizard of Oz style thing that they.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Could go, didn't I send you my girl that was
making a storm shelter into a storm stunner. She like,
we'll be for her funker and stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's gonna be me.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, exactly, all right.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
This thirty one year old fisherman from Louisiana caught marlin,
which is a large fish with a needle nose, and
as he was unhooking it over the side of the boat,
the fish starts freaking out and then ends up piercing
him in his throat.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, it's like kind of ironic, right. I was like,
this is exactly what would happen if you caught a fish.
It would go through their mouth because they're eating bait
off of it, right, So this it stung this guy
in his mouth and when he went to the hospital.
Obviously he went to the hospital right away because there
(21:30):
was like this serious trauma done to him. They X
rayed him and they didn't see anything, so they just thought, Okay,
this thing stabbed this guy and we're just gonna have
to repair the injury. And when they did a CT scan,
that's when they saw that a piece of the what
is it called the bill, a Marlin's bill or a barb,
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it's just the piece of the you know, the sharp
piece of the nose was still inside of his mouth
and it was puncturing. So it went through the back
of his throat, which just think about that. That just
sounds so painful, and it went into his spinal canal,
but it didn't sever his spinal cord, thank god, because
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he could be paralyzed or even dead because of that.
And it was so high up. It was right where
your skull meets your spinal column. So it I mean,
if he became paralyzed. He would have been paralyzed from
the neck down, like it would have been really terrible. Instead,
he's lucky to be alive. They were able to remove it,
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and they put him on some hardcore antibiotic treatment for
two reasons. Because number One, you have all this bacteria
in your mouth that has now been introduced into your
cerebral spinal space where the fluid is the fluid around
the spinal cord, which also goes in the brain, So
you definitely don't that whole area is sterile. You don't
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want bacteria going anywhere near your brain like that. Number Two,
marine animals are like they have a whole bunch of
different weird bacterias and stuff that you definitely don't want
introduced near your brain. So they really wanted to, you know,
and that would be on the marlin that went intoto
that weird space on this freak accident. So he stayed
(23:17):
in the ICU, but he was released with no complications
and he's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
What a crazy story to tell. Yeah, it's a crazy
story to tell. I wonder do you think they let
him keep the peace that was lodged.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
In his throat.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't know. I think like some people would want it,
and then other people would be like I don't want
to see that thing, you know, like in Happy Gilmore
when that alligator had taken off the hand of Chubbs,
and then Happy Gilmore thought that it was a good
idea to kill the alligator and put its eyeball like
(23:50):
in a jar and give it to Chobbs as a present.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Was the whole head, wasn't It.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Wasn't I thought he put the whole head.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
So when he like screamed ran out no, okay, okay,
that's why.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's why I got confused, because Chubs carried around the
jar with the eye because he was like he bit
my hand, but I got his eye. Remember he was
like showing the jar. Okay, So yeah, So then Happy
Gilmour was like, oh, I have a present for you.
I killed that bastard and like here's his head, right,
And then Chubbs like freaks out and falls through the
out the window and dies because he just like couldn't
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handle seeing it, like it triggered some PTSD in him
or something. So imagine having that barb in your house,
like the guy might walk by it and get like
triggered or something.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You know what's weird is an LBI. Last week another
person got stabbed by a needlefish.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I just thought, oh, yeah, it bizarre that the I.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Thought that was the same story at first, and I
was like, hold on a second, different situations.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's just it's just kind of ironic. Like I wonder
if this guy sits there and thinks, like I was
saying this about fishing the other day, like and I'm not,
like I always say, I'm not some like animal loving
hippie person and stuff. I think like, I fish fine,
but like if you're just fishing for sport, you're just
kind of like piercing their face just to be like huh,
(25:06):
I call it this and throw it back. It's just
kind of fucked up, you know what I mean. So
that that's like what happened with this guy. Like ultimately
he's fine, he's not gonna die, but he got pierced
in his throat, right, it just doesn't feel good.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, it's nuts, all right. So this story is so bizarre.
So this woman called the non emergency line for police
and claimed that her ex boyfriend was on his motorcycle
riding up and down her street trying to get her
to come outside. So before the cops got there, this
woman's dad went outside, and when the motorcycle went by again,
he threw a machete at the bike. But it turns
(25:41):
out it wasn't the ex boyfriend. It was a totally
random couple and he hit this woman on the back
of the bike and killed her.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
What the hell are people thinking? Even if it was
the ex boyfriend, right, you want to throw yeah? Like
and you whatever? I mean, listen, Like, the guy could
have done some hard stuff, so you want to you
want to throw a machete at this guy, and like,
I don't know what you think was gonna happen when
you're throwing a giant knife flying through the air. But okay,
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but there was a woman on the bike, Like you
didn't think that there was a possibility that you would
hit her, who's completely innocent in the situation.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Maybe they thought it was like his new girlfriend or something,
but that doesn't mean that she deserved to die. Like,
come on, none of it makes sense. I don't understand
why we're just throwing machetes at peace.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It would be mean if you threw like a baseball
bat just to try to knock the guy off. But
a frickin machete. Who even has a machete?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
They said, actually they don't even know if the boyfriend
was in the area at all.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Oh yeah, like they they're just like, yeah, we don't
even know if it was him ever driving down the street.
It was just this other guy. He killed a person,
like and and then he's just like yeah, I'm sorry,
Like how do people live? So then he tried to
hide the machete, but then later reveal where it was.
So this guy ends up getting charged with murder, tampering
with evidence, and assault. So good one, Like, what were
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you doing regardless if it was the ex boyfriend, Like
you were still gonna potentially kill him and then have
the same charges unless you're like a gardener or you're
harvesting sugarcane or something like that. Like why, I because
all I think about is people in fields cutting down
heavy stems of something. I just don't understand what the
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point of owning a machete would ever be.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think living in America machetes then you think they're
very popular in the Philadelphia area.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But like, but why it's it's a weapon to hurt
someone with. I guess it's just like having a gun,
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But it's like I just collector's thing for Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I really don't understand when you have things like that,
it's just like no, no good's gonna come out of it,
you know what I mean? And I wouldn't look at
that as like a gun. I understand you want to
protect yourself. It's hidden and if you follow the rules
or whatever, it's you know, But but like when I
I guess when you pull the gun on somebody, you're
intending to kill or hurt them. You're you don't want
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to use something like a machete as a scare tactic.
And it's just it's just really bizarre to me. What
part of the contry did this happen in Ohio? And
maybe maybe he as a farmer and he was harvesting
stuff I don't know, like.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Florida, Judge Florida, maybe because they have like tropical landscapes
down there, Like this makes no sense. I think this
was just a weirdo that just had one and clearly
wasn't in his right viby do you like want to
crack open a fresh coconut or something like, Yeah, this
is a weird I don't get a weird situation. All right, guys, Well,
we will be in Atlanta a week from today, so
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have some interesting
stories for you today. First, we're going to start off
with a reality TV star who killed her partner and
there is a very important piece of evidence missing. A
healthy former UFC fighter who got sick and needed a
double lung transplant. A cute little boy. Oh my god,
you guys should see the pictures. It's so sad who
(00:42):
got stung over one hundred and fifty times by wasps,
an ironic case of a fisherman who was able to
feel exactly what a fish feels like when a giant
hook goes into their mouth and a guy who randomly
killed a woman with a machete when he thought he
was protecting his daughter. Let's get started with this story
of this former reality TV star who killed her partner.
(01:06):
What happened there?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, So Australian police got this call that there was
a fire and when they got there, they found this
thirty nine year old man dead. He was dismembered and
his head was missing. And now his girlfriend, who's Tamika
Chesser of Beauty in the Geek Australia has been arrested
and charged with his murder.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, so they found all of his body parts. She
did admit to killing him, right, but is not saying
where his head is. So currently it's missing. His family
would really like it back for obvious reasons, and we
don't know what she did with it. We don't know
where it's at. So that's where we're at right now
with this case.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's did you see how bizarre it was that she
was just like they said, she was found in a
catatonic state in the garden after they found him.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, I mean that's probably what happened that usually, So
this is what's interesting about this case actually, because people
who are serial killers most of the time you see
in these cases that they keep a trophy sometimes, so
you would keep the head, right if you were a
serial killer maybe in a case, but in this particular case,
it's more than likely a domestic situation, right, that they
(02:16):
got in some kind of a fight and she just
went nuts and killed the guy. Right, So it's just
really interesting to see what she did, what she did
with his head, what she's doing with his head, and
it's it's also just like above and beyond killing someone
when you dismember them. I don't know if she was
trying to Was that the point that she dismembered them
and she was trying to set a fire to burn
(02:38):
up his body faster? Maybe is that what she was
trying to do. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, But isn't that proven in most cases?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Aren't there a lot of people that do stuff like
that and it never really works.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like, it doesn't work. You can never get a fire
temperature that high in a house to be able to
totally cremate a body down to dust.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Like.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It never works. But people think, Yeah, people think that
that's what they're doing, but they don't know that you're
going to do an autopsy afterwards and find out exactly
how the person died. So they're still in a situation
like that. There could still be soft tissue present, and
they could see that the guy was dismembered before or
after death, depending on what it happens. Sometimes they could
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see things like bullet wounds or other stab wounds that
would show what his cause of death was. So I'm
not exactly sure what she thought she was getting away with,
but I mean, usually it's actually a little bit of
a relief when somebody kills them, one dismembers them and
sets the house on fire. At least they're in a
different state of mind. They're not just like going to
(03:40):
the grocery store and food shopping or something right after
something like that. So maybe that's it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, the police have released video of her walking around
in the outfit she was wearing the day of the
suspected killing, the day they suspect that he was killed,
because they want to try to see if she transported
his head anywhere, because they can't find it and she
didn't drive her anything, so they think they're going to
be able to track her movements via walking around the town.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, that's really interesting and I'm curious what her reasoning
was behind that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, imagine going on your ring doorbell footage and finding
like a person walking the streets with a human head
or Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We have cases, we have cases in the gross room
of people killing people and just walking around holding a
human head by the hair. It is so disturbing. But
there's been cases of that, for sure. But also they
were just domestic cases seem you know, like a crime
of passion, a huge fight that caused something like this
to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Okay, So Ben Askrin, who's forty years old, he's a
former UFC fighter, boxer and Olympic wrestler. A couple of
weeks ago, he seemingly got a staff infection that turned
into pneumonia. He got really sick. His wife had posted
that he was in the hospital and now he needs
a double lung transplant. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It went down really quick too, within a couple weeks.
So apparently he's I mean, he's a UFC fighter, so
he is in good shape. He was in good health
before this happened. And sometimes people could just get staff
infections and they could get really nasty because that bacteria
could be nasty, especially depending on what kind of strain
it is. So we have sometimes we have staff normally
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inside of our nostril and stuff, and it could get
into our bodies that way. Other times, like with IVY,
drug users especially are at an increased risk of getting
these kinds of infections because they're staff on the skin
and then using dirty needles repeated LYE can also cause
this type of infection in a person. And I don't
think that that was happening with him. This is just
(05:41):
something a freak thing that happened. He might have just
just because he's so young and stuff. He might have
just thought that he had a typical cold and didn't
go get treatment until it was far more advanced than
it should have been. And what happens is that the
staff bacteria causes something called necrotizing pneumonia, which is it
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kills the lung tissue, and it also causes like a pus,
and once if you do survive that, once it starts healing,
the lung heals with a lot of fibrous scar tissue,
causing pulmonary fibrosis. And you could also get something called
bronchiectusis when the airways are permanently dilated, and these two
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things prevent oxygen exchange, and ultimately that's what your lungs do,
and you can't live without them. You could live with
one lung, but if he had double pneumonia in both lungs,
then that means the only way that he was going
to be able to live for the rest of his
life he's so young, is to get new lungs. So
with that, if you need lungs to live and you're
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getting two lungs from someone, that means that you're getting
them from a dead person, someone that died, likely in
a car accident or something like that, which is why
organ donation is so important, because because if someone dies
in a car accident, their lungs are perfectly fine. Now
they could get transplanted into a guy like this, So
he still has a long road ahead of him, but
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it's good that. I mean, he was put on the
transplant list not too long ago and got lungs already there.
That I was gonna ask about is that So I'm
not really sure how it works with lung So I
know some people that are on the transplant list are
on it sometimes for years, Like could they theoretically keep
him alive on machines until they're ready or what is
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in that condition?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Not?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, it's not good. It wouldn't be good to
be on a ventilator like that for years, even if
that was possible. But they look at there's a lot
of different things they look at when they do a transplant.
So number one, they just look at the size of
a person. Just just think this guy, he might be
(07:55):
kind of a bigger guy because he's a UFC fighter,
yet might have a bigger chest or something I'm not
sure of his body build, but they look at can
the lungs actually fit into the chest cavity, because like,
let's pretend a guy that's like six foot five dies
in a car accident. Are you going to put those
lungs inside of like your tiny frame. No, it's not
(08:17):
gonna fit, you know what I mean. So they look
at just like physical size, is it even going to fit?
And then they check the blood type, and they do
the tissue type just to make sure that you're gonna
have the least chance of rejection. And then they look
at things like how bad do you need these lungs,
like can you live another year with assistance or not?
(08:37):
And he probably was really really bad, like no matter
what medications they gave him, ventilation, everything, like he was
going to die imminently. So that's why they decided to
bump him up kind of to get these lungs, and
it all worked out. So that's the first part of
the battle. And then the next part is obviously like
long transplants have a higher risk of rejection, mainly because
(09:02):
of it's a very intricate surgery. When you breathe in air,
your lungs take in the oxygen, which then goes into
your bloodstream, and that's how the oxygen gets all over
your body. So once that blood goes to all of
the organs, it goes back to the heart, and then
it goes through the heart and it goes back into
(09:22):
the lungs to pick up more oxygen. So those two
organs work together, and if one's not working correctly, the
other one's not going to work correctly. So it's just
a very intricate surgery. On top of that, when people
get organ transplants, they get put on so many kinds
of drugs because they're immune. They don't want their immune
(09:42):
system to reject these new organs transplants, sometimes especially too
in otherwise young healthy people like this guy, like his
immune system's awesome, so it's just going to want to
attack these new lungs, so they really need to suppress it.
And when they do, unfortunately, he's a risk of getting
infections that normal people wouldn't get. And it's especially bad
(10:05):
to get one of these infections in these new lungs
and you're trying to get to stick, you know, So
he has a long road ahead with the rejection, with
the potential risk of infections, but there are people that
get this surgery done and go on to live a
long time after that, so we're just hoping for the
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Okay, so, oh my god, this cute little boy. Did
you see the pictures of them getting stung by all
of these wasps.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
His he just looks so sad. I know, they made
me so sad.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
He's so cute in the pictures, and his like you know,
little baby fat skin is like covered in these stings.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And all he was doing was like riding his little
bike or like a it seems like a.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Riding in a toy car, and then accidentally hit the
nest and they just went crazy. He was stung over
one hundred and fifty times by wasps. I can't fathom
how painful this is. When I was a little kid,
I was we were at Antina's lake house, and I
don't know why. I was like using my kid brain
walking to the car to get something, and her driveway
was rocks, and you know when you're a little kid,
(12:12):
I'm like, oh, if I close my eyes, I won't
hurt to walk on rocks barefoot, like that makes any sense.
But I was doing that and my hand hit a
benus and I got stung three times, and that was horrible.
I can't imagine one hundred and fifty times when you're.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And these are probably way more painful and intense than
a regular beasting for sure. Oh, we we have these
in my backyard actually because they make their nests inside
of the ground. So they were right before we got
the multra replace. This year, we had a huge problem
and I kept spraying and they I almost called an
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exterminator because they're they're near the pool and I'm like,
I don't need all of these dangerous bees or wasp
around the pool, you know. But it's scary because they're
the kids where the kids jump into the pool. They're
on the ground there in a little hole, like you
could barely see them. And these kinds of wasp are
the most likely to sting people, so they're kind of
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they're kind of like looking around waiting to get disturbed
into and they attack. And it's not like a normal
beasting where the big this stinger will fall out like
it can go in several times and they just go nuts.
Like once they do it, they just can repeatedly sting someone.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, And obviously because of how extreme this was, he
started having problems too.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well. The mom took them obviously, this is what you
should do in any case, is that she took them
to the hospital right away to get checked out. And
they don't have an anti venom for this, so they
just do, Okay, well, we're just going to treat them
for his symptoms right now, which is giving them benadryl
and just you know, just keeping an eye making sure
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his vitals are okay. And he was fine, so they
discharged him. But you could have a reaction to the
toxins hours later, and that's what happened in this case.
It most commonly occurs in situations like this where you're
getting if you don't have an allergy, because everybody doesn't
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have an allergy to it, but when you get stung
one hundred and fifty times, especially when you weigh what
thirty some pounds forty pounds, you know, when you're like
a little kid like that, it's just too much venom
in your body for your little especially the little tiny
body to handle. And he started having a reaction at home.
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His mom noticed that his skin was yellow, Like, how
traumatizing is that? I know, brought him to the hospital
right away, and then they metavacked him to another hospital
which is even scarier. So now he seems to be
doing okay. They just kind of have to treat him
for what's happening. But he was going into liver failure.
That's why he was yellow. He was actually johndice and
(14:58):
kidney failure. So they were able to get it under
control in the ICU, and he seems to be recovering.
But it's just it's so sad because it's it's not
really it's not really anything. What could the mom have
done differently, Like, it's just you're outside in nature and
this stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
There's there's bugs, Like, yeah, it's just purely an accident.
I mean, there's nothing you can do. Hopefully, because he
was so little, he won't have any memory or hopefully
he won't have any long term complications from this.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
But it's super scary.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Why are they so angry?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They seem like they're like, yeah, they I don't know
what's going on in their life. They're so angry. You
want to hear something interesting that I learned though. They
said that if you get stung by this and your
home and like obviously if you get stung once and
you know you're not having an allergy, because there's a
difference between like this kid didn't have what you would
(15:53):
consider to be an anaphylaxic shock, which is what you
would see when you have a severe allergy, although he
might be at an increase verse for that in the
future now because of this happening, he was having a
reaction to the toxin, which was a little bit different.
But if you just get stung and you're kind of
like al that really hurts and there's like a small
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hive around it, you're fine or whatever. But they said
that if you make a mixture with meat tenderizer and
put it around the sting site, that it could actually
help like dissolve the venom that's in the localized reaction there,
which I thought was interesting. And then it said if
you don't have meat tender because I was like, I
don't have meat tender. I don't even know. I don't know,
(16:36):
I don't have it at my house. But they said
that you could use deodorant that's aluminum based or baking soda.
So I thought that that was just like an interesting
little tidbit that I never would have thought of if
I got stung like that.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, I don't think I would think of that either.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So hopefully what does help somebody listening to the Yes,
this story, it does scare me a little bit though,
because I said I do have them in my yard
and I'm constantly like when I was spraying them in
the beginning of the season, I'm actually surprised that I
didn't get attacked because there was probably ten to twenty
of them like swarming around the area I kept spraying
with that stuff, which they were impervious to, by the way,
(17:16):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I feel like just getting the new mult poured over
their nest kind of helped, and maybe it took a
while for the poison to kill them. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Also side note, if you hear background noise, it's thundering
really bad right now, so I might have to leave
and go in my bunker. But no, just it's super loud.
I don't know if you could hear it on your infoot.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Well, I have it at my house too.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Oh yeah, it's about the storm really bad.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So I've been hearing brewing in the background and now
it just like was so loud right next to this window.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, I was just driving. Well, I just texted you
when I just came home from the doctor, and I
texted you and was like, oh, it looks angry out,
which is kind of it's like kind of early for
that today, but it's the season. It is so swampy
and gross. I did post a picture on my Instagram,
did you say it of the of the condensation on
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the inside of our house. It's just so gross because
of the heat outside in the cold air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And I know the weather can't be perfect, but I'm
checking the radar when I was at your house yesterday,
for example, Like I'm checking the radar and it says
it's going to hit around five o'clock and then we're
not going to have any rain. The rest of the night.
I could not sleep all night it was so loud,
the thunder and the rain smacking against the window. And
this morning I check and it says it's not going
(18:38):
to rain until six o'clock. And it's thundering horribly right now,
so like I haven't even looked outside yet, I'm sure
it's down pooring.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
We always had a saying in pathology that like, weather
forecasters are like radiologists, no offense to any radiologists listening
that they could they could just like guess something. It's
just funny because some of some of the diegosis that
we would see would just be like, can't roll out cancer,
can't roll out infection, can't roll out other neoplasm, And
(19:06):
you're just like, oh so it just could be whatever,
Like you just throw out a bunch of stuff and
you don't really have any true responsibility when it's not
that or whatever. But not to say that they don't.
It's just it was just like a funny joke that
we said. But yeah, so it's it's the same here.
So we know that Maria is like always on storm alert,
(19:28):
she's got all she One time there was this tornado
and she was sending me pictures like she's tracking it
on the app to see where it's at and stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well it landed in a town next to me. It's
not like it was like fifty miles.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So we always joke that she has a bunker that
she goes to when it rainstorms. All right, let's get
onto this next one, and we should sat up like
a little podcast area there so we could get live updates. Yeah, well,
if my internet suff goes out, how are you gonna
get live updates? What that day in particular that you're
talking about was so scary because it was like green outside.
(20:03):
The tornado did touch down in the town next to me.
My phone went on SOS mode. Thank god my power
didn't go out, and I had all our people in
the Midwest think you're a little you're a little whiny bitch.
Oh we never had them ever, are well we have
them now, So it's part of life.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Well, yeah, I'm just not used to it because I
remember one my life.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Have you seen the videos of like there was like
a crazy tornado in South Dakota or something this week?
Like our little f one minus things are nothing compared
to these things, And this is like people's every day.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But those people have, like legit, they.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Have an underground like Wizard of Oz style thing that they.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Could go, didn't I send you my girl that was
making a storm shelter into a storm stunner. She like,
we'll be for her funker and stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's gonna be me.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, exactly, all right.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
This thirty one year old fisherman from Louisiana caught marlin,
which is a large fish with a needle nose, and
as he was unhooking it over the side of the boat,
the fish starts freaking out and then ends up piercing
him in his throat.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, it's like kind of ironic, right. I was like,
this is exactly what would happen if you caught a fish.
It would go through their mouth because they're eating bait
off of it, right, So this it stung this guy
in his mouth and when he went to the hospital.
Obviously he went to the hospital right away because there
(21:30):
was like this serious trauma done to him. They X
rayed him and they didn't see anything, so they just thought, Okay,
this thing stabbed this guy and we're just gonna have
to repair the injury. And when they did a CT scan,
that's when they saw that a piece of the what
is it called the bill, a Marlin's bill or a barb,
(21:50):
it's just the piece of the you know, the sharp
piece of the nose was still inside of his mouth
and it was puncturing. So it went through the back
of his throat, which just think about that. That just
sounds so painful, and it went into his spinal canal,
but it didn't sever his spinal cord, thank god, because
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he could be paralyzed or even dead because of that.
And it was so high up. It was right where
your skull meets your spinal column. So it I mean,
if he became paralyzed. He would have been paralyzed from
the neck down, like it would have been really terrible. Instead,
he's lucky to be alive. They were able to remove it,
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and they put him on some hardcore antibiotic treatment for
two reasons. Because number One, you have all this bacteria
in your mouth that has now been introduced into your
cerebral spinal space where the fluid is the fluid around
the spinal cord, which also goes in the brain, So
you definitely don't that whole area is sterile. You don't
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want bacteria going anywhere near your brain like that. Number Two,
marine animals are like they have a whole bunch of
different weird bacterias and stuff that you definitely don't want
introduced near your brain. So they really wanted to, you know,
and that would be on the marlin that went intoto
that weird space on this freak accident. So he stayed
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in the ICU, but he was released with no complications
and he's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
What a crazy story to tell. Yeah, it's a crazy
story to tell. I wonder do you think they let
him keep the peace that was lodged.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
In his throat.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't know. I think like some people would want it,
and then other people would be like I don't want
to see that thing, you know, like in Happy Gilmore
when that alligator had taken off the hand of Chubbs,
and then Happy Gilmore thought that it was a good
idea to kill the alligator and put its eyeball like
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in a jar and give it to Chobbs as a present.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Was the whole head, wasn't It.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Wasn't I thought he put the whole head.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
So when he like screamed ran out no, okay, okay,
that's why.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's why I got confused, because Chubs carried around the
jar with the eye because he was like he bit
my hand, but I got his eye. Remember he was
like showing the jar. Okay, So yeah, So then Happy
Gilmour was like, oh, I have a present for you.
I killed that bastard and like here's his head, right,
And then Chubbs like freaks out and falls through the
out the window and dies because he just like couldn't
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handle seeing it, like it triggered some PTSD in him
or something. So imagine having that barb in your house,
like the guy might walk by it and get like
triggered or something.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You know what's weird is an LBI. Last week another
person got stabbed by a needlefish.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I just thought, oh, yeah, it bizarre that the I.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Thought that was the same story at first, and I
was like, hold on a second, different situations.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's just it's just kind of ironic. Like I wonder
if this guy sits there and thinks, like I was
saying this about fishing the other day, like and I'm not,
like I always say, I'm not some like animal loving
hippie person and stuff. I think like, I fish fine,
but like if you're just fishing for sport, you're just
kind of like piercing their face just to be like huh,
(25:06):
I call it this and throw it back. It's just
kind of fucked up, you know what I mean. So
that that's like what happened with this guy. Like ultimately
he's fine, he's not gonna die, but he got pierced
in his throat, right, it just doesn't feel good.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, it's nuts, all right. So this story is so bizarre.
So this woman called the non emergency line for police
and claimed that her ex boyfriend was on his motorcycle
riding up and down her street trying to get her
to come outside. So before the cops got there, this
woman's dad went outside, and when the motorcycle went by again,
he threw a machete at the bike. But it turns
(25:41):
out it wasn't the ex boyfriend. It was a totally
random couple and he hit this woman on the back
of the bike and killed her.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
What the hell are people thinking? Even if it was
the ex boyfriend, right, you want to throw yeah? Like
and you whatever? I mean, listen, Like, the guy could
have done some hard stuff, so you want to you
want to throw a machete at this guy, and like,
I don't know what you think was gonna happen when
you're throwing a giant knife flying through the air. But okay,
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but there was a woman on the bike, Like you
didn't think that there was a possibility that you would
hit her, who's completely innocent in the situation.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Maybe they thought it was like his new girlfriend or something,
but that doesn't mean that she deserved to die. Like,
come on, none of it makes sense. I don't understand
why we're just throwing machetes at peace.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It would be mean if you threw like a baseball
bat just to try to knock the guy off. But
a frickin machete. Who even has a machete?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
They said, actually they don't even know if the boyfriend
was in the area at all.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Oh yeah, like they they're just like, yeah, we don't
even know if it was him ever driving down the street.
It was just this other guy. He killed a person,
like and and then he's just like yeah, I'm sorry,
Like how do people live? So then he tried to
hide the machete, but then later reveal where it was.
So this guy ends up getting charged with murder, tampering
with evidence, and assault. So good one, Like, what were
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you doing regardless if it was the ex boyfriend, Like
you were still gonna potentially kill him and then have
the same charges unless you're like a gardener or you're
harvesting sugarcane or something like that. Like why, I because
all I think about is people in fields cutting down
heavy stems of something. I just don't understand what the
(27:23):
point of owning a machete would ever be.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think living in America machetes then you think they're
very popular in the Philadelphia area.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But like, but why it's it's a weapon to hurt
someone with. I guess it's just like having a gun,
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But it's like I just collector's thing for Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I really don't understand when you have things like that,
it's just like no, no good's gonna come out of it,
you know what I mean? And I wouldn't look at
that as like a gun. I understand you want to
protect yourself. It's hidden and if you follow the rules
or whatever, it's you know, But but like when I
I guess when you pull the gun on somebody, you're
intending to kill or hurt them. You're you don't want
(28:05):
to use something like a machete as a scare tactic.
And it's just it's just really bizarre to me. What
part of the contry did this happen in Ohio? And
maybe maybe he as a farmer and he was harvesting
stuff I don't know, like.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Florida, Judge Florida, maybe because they have like tropical landscapes
down there, Like this makes no sense. I think this
was just a weirdo that just had one and clearly
wasn't in his right viby do you like want to
crack open a fresh coconut or something like, Yeah, this
is a weird I don't get a weird situation. All right, guys, Well,
we will be in Atlanta a week from today, so
(28:44):
you're gonna want to buy tickets for our Meet and
Grey on the eleventh or ticket to the Crime and Wind.
There's two sessions on the twelfth at the Georgia.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, and proceeds from the sales of the tickets are
going to the Cold Case Institute, Cheryl McCollum's Cold Case Institute.
That so it's going towards a good cause to help
solve crimes that are unsolved. And yeah, you could meet
me and Maria. We're gonna have some books and you'll
get to meet Cheryl too, which she's like, I'd rather
(29:13):
meet her than us. Yeah, we're gonna never realized. She's
so cool. She's the podcast host of Zone seven. We've
had her on the show a bunch of times, but
also we love her. She's on Nancy Gray sometimes and
she's awesome. She's a very good storyteller. Yeah, so please
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