Bobby Bones joins Movie Mike on this episode to talk about his 3 favorite movies from his life which include Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Man on The Moon plus some honorable mentions. Bobby and Mike debate why Thanos from the Avengers can be seen as a good guy. Bobby also compares what Thanos did in his ideology to what is going on now with the coronavirus and places opening back up. Mike also talks to Bobby about the movie he starred in back in 2009 called Bandslam. Bobby reveals how much he made, what his audition was like and getting to hang out with Lisa Kudrow.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie podcast. I
am movie Mike on Twitter and Instagram at Mike d Strow.
Got a really great episode for you guys today. I
have my friend, my boss, mentor everything known this guy
for ten years, Bobby Bones. You hear him on your radio,
you probably read his book, to see him on the TV,
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all the things. But today I get to interview him
for the first time ever, and I'm gonna try to
get him to tell me his story through movies. Now,
he's not the biggest movie guy, but I have a
feeling his favorite movies will reveal some things about him
maybe you didn't know. I also want to get into
an argument him and I have about the Marvel Universe,
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specifically about Thanos and whether or not he is a
good guy or bad guy depending on how you look
at him. So we'll get into that. And also I
want to talk about the movie he was in, because
back in the day he did start in a movie
called bands Lamb and I want to ask him. I
got like five questions or so I want to ask
him about that, just about how do you get into
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a movie, Like do you audition? How much money do
you make? All that kind of stuff, so we'll get
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Movie Movie Podcast. All right, joining me now on the podcast,
we have Bobby Bones. Never heard of this guy. I've
never interviewed you before, so it'll be a bit different today. Well,
I tend to uh take it my own way, so
feel free to stop me. But let me start by
staying there. Okay. I started watching the movie about the
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Beastio Boys last night. Yeah, I know that a movie
podcast started it last night too. I don't like how
I don't like that put it together. It's a show.
I want a documentary the BC Boys. Yeah, that got
me a bit off, And I was trying to watch
with Kalin and I would have been into it enough
to sit through all of it like that, but that
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was a struggle for her. I just I don't like
how it's format it now. I only watched again right
the sixth of it. That's it well, because she wasn't
feeling it. She didn't know the guys on stage. I
think if it were a documentary, a good documentary you
can watch without knowing anything personally about it. You can
just jump in and go while I'm learning something. But
you kind of needed to know who those guys were
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when they're out, because if you haven't seen it yet,
you probably haven't because I'm a big Beastie Boys fan
and I had it until last night. There it's a
in a theater and it's a live recording of the
Beastie Boys showing pictures and telling stories of their life.
Does it ever get more as a documentary or does
it stay like that? It stays like I've watched an
hour of it and it stays like that the whole time,
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and I think it's still interesting. But yeah, like you said,
it feels like you're not really getting the whole story
because they're kind of just telling it and lets you
know them already. You don't feel it's connected, like, oh,
you could just go into this without knowing anything about them.
And I love the beast Too Boys. One of the
most influential musical groups of my life when it comes
to how I modeled any of my career, not just broadcasting,
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but the music. I like. The music that I do
kind of funny, and for a while I was a
funny hip hop artist and you know, being a white kid,
and you see other white guys that were funny but
could still be cool. So, uh, yeah, I'm not through
on how you felt about that. Will you finish them?
I will, but I won't with her. I'll probably finish
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it tonight. Did your girl watch it with you? Ye?
She liked it, but she likes older brothers. Yeah. Okay,
Well that's all. That's my movie topic that I brought
in for discussion. But I'm not all the way there yet,
so I'll give you an update later. All right. So
what I want to do is get to know you
more through movies. So I guess I want to know
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your favorite movies from your life and like why they
affected you. And you call them your favorite movies. Well,
it's interesting because I'm not a movie guy as much
as you are this as much as I'm not. Just
I mean, I guess I watch them, but I never
really cared to sit down for that long. Um, unless
it was a true story, I could get more. It's
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like books. I can very much get into a nonfiction
book because I feel like I'm learning. Even if it's
not great a great book, I still feel like I'm learning.
I would compare all my media consumption for movies or
book like to the Queens. The movie that that sws
on Netflix is called The Queen the Crown. Yeah, the Crown,
thank you, because it's kind of boring, but it's just
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good enough. But because you're learning, you stay in. That's
how I kind of feel about my movie. So I
was thinking about this. My top three movies. At number
three is probably Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Oh interesting
because eyes not since I want to watch over and
over again. But that's not in my criteria for best movies.
My criteria is stages of my life, movies that affected
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me the most in what way, and Bill and Ted's
Excellent Adventure was me for two reasons. One because it
was funny, but two I learned something in it because
in this movie, Bill and Ted are two idiot kids
who have to go back in time to create, uh
like an spoken report in a theater to pass and
if they don't get a great or so they fail
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out of school. I have to go to boarding school.
I've seen it so long, I'm okay. So what they
do is they find this time machine with George Carlin
and they go back through history and they meet all
these famous people and Napoleon, which I was like, okay,
I know a little about Napoleon, but maybe want to
learn more about Napoleon. Um so Creates who's also Socrates?
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Who I So you learn about all these folks, uh,
Joan of Arc, Abraham Lincoln. As you're laughing and it's
a really stupid movie. I also felt myself learning and
that for the much much of my life. I told
us probably nineteen or twenty was my favorite movie. I
was just that was it. That's what I just stuck with.
The movie came out nine were probably nine. Did you
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watch it when it came out or would you watch
it later? Like it's a teenager? Probably when it came
out to rent because we really couldn't afford to go
the movie. Um I went to as a young kid,
I would say twelve or below. I probably went to
two movies, and it was they were both when my
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mom met my stepdad. He took me to watch The
Babe with John Goodman because we were both big baseball
fans and white Man Can't Jump and enjoyed both of
them and they were sports movies, and that's really how
we bonded was through sports. But I can't really remember
going to any movie other than him taking me to
my first movies at twelve, and those were the two
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that I went to. I guess that was the same
way because I remember I had I didn't go to
the was a lot of the kid but I had
a cousin who would get everything on VHS and that's
kind of where I got all my movies from. Like
I'd be like, oh, you have all these movies I
get to watch now? Yeah, we would go to on
because what would happen at the movie store, which was
on the way to town. You could stop at the
movie store and you could rent a movie on Friday
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and pay the and you get to keep it till Sunday. However,
if you went on Saturday and the movies were left over,
because Saturday wasn't a big big rental day because it
only got one day to keep it, Like Thursday was Friday,
Wednesday was Thursday, but Friday was you can bring back Sunday.
You got an extra day because it was the same movie.
You got a half off, so if you want to,
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So we would go on Saturday see what was left,
and we rent movies from the you know, dollar ninety
nine or dollar twenty nine movie rental. You never got
the big ones. But I'm positive that I saw Bill
and Ted on VHS for the first time and it
watched it a lot of I think, kind of buying
it um which was crazy because I don't think we
had a BCR for a lot of time. But that's
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at number three, and that's really the only movie that
I'm bringing in from childhood. So Bill and Ted's excent
a mature. That means Bill and Ted's two was okay,
wasn't that great? It was Bill and Ted and the
Grim Reaper was in it, Like I don't remember. I
remember being excited for it to come out, watching on
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VHS and it was like it was okay. I still
loved there was Bill and Ted, but there they just
made Bill and Ted three. Ye, hopefully they finished it.
Do we know if they finished it. I think it's
what's close to being finished, but it's obviously delayed to
come out. Um so that number three, that number two, Well,
this is where it kind of got tricky with me, because, like,
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what movies just hit me the hardest. I guess because
I definitely wouldn't put down movies I've seen the most
as my favorite movies because that would be something on
TBS that I would stop. Hitch I've probably seen. I've
probably seen Hitch more than any movie just because it's
been on so many times. So I took that out
of my sort of list of things I needed to
have my favorite movie. So then I go, Okay, what movie.
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Just when I finished it, I was like, oh, and
it had to I guess I can put them both
the number two, but the one that almost made the
list was Her. It didn't make the list, But the
other one, the other one want to pick it takes
its spot? Is that movie? When it finished, I went
to think, I felt that because Her before I honorable mention.
Her is about a guy who just can't find love
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because he's odd, so he finds love with an outside
but it was an outsider. That's really the the over
art of the story. It's not so much that it's
an operating system that's a big part of it. But
the real part of the story is guy doesn't fit in.
He finds some other way to find somebody he loves
and it turns out it's you know, basically falling in
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love with Safari on your computer. Um. And so if
you look at it from you know, above the forest
instead of in the tree, it's a sad romantic story.
If you look at it from the trades, it's the
weird old guy who falls in love with a computer. Um.
I loved her because when I turned it off, I
was like, dang, I kind of felt that I could
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never fit in, never had girls. Was always like I'm
gonna have to fall in love with something or someone different. Um.
But I watched that and there's a great movie. I
loved it that you either loved that or hated that.
Did Spike Jones do that movie? And he did the
Beast two Boys documents we're talking about, But what did
he do? Because here's the documentary, what does Spike Jones do?
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By tacking and watch it in the theater, I think
he's like doing all the stage direction because they like
call him out like during the later on. Okay, I
must not hitting the sound effects and like running the
slides and all that. He put all that together. Okay,
I was gonna say stage direction, they just stand up
the pictures. Um. So her didn't make it. But this
movie that gave me the same kind of feeling did
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which was Eternal Sunshine in the Spotless Mind, which is
the Gym Carey movie. And I'm not a big carry guy,
but I'll watch that movie and it was would you
eliminate all of these toxic, sad, unworthy feelings that you
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have accumulated? And with him it was her, um if
you could, like would or would you keep them all
and grow from it? And it didn't hit me on
a romantic level, but hit me on a personal level
was like, dang, I've been to munch of crap in
my life. Would I get rid of that? Or would
I not? And you know, I thought about it for long,
but because that movie made think about it for a
long time, I still think about that based on the movie.
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I may I may have lin sed that movie once
or twice, but I'm just going from the lasting feeling
that it gave me when it finished. So number two
is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Because of I
still feel a scar from that movie, like it cut
me in the right way, and that scar is still there.
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Have you ever seen it if you need, I've probably
watched it pretty recently, like maybe within the year really,
and it's I think it still holds up, and I
remember it kind of hit me like that to that
first line where he's like he's sitting on that train
and that line he says about he falls in love
with like any girl. I was like, dangn that kind
of hit me pretty hard. See, I don't remember anything
about it because I've only seen it once or twice,
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and I don't know if it holds up. Almost don't
want to watch it again because and in the same
way I had never listened to my favorite interviews on
on the radio show. I don't want to remember it
differently than I felt it, especially if I felt something
that a feeling that was so distinct, like I can
remember how I felt when the movie finished. So there
are interviews in my career, uh Kevin Smith early John
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Mayer interviewed that we did my first time time into
Garth Brooks. I won't go back and look at or
listen to it anyway because I don't want to look
at and go, oh, that's kind of stupid. I shouldn't
have said that, or same way with probably this movie
unless someone just wanted to see it. I don't want
to go back and go like this maybe kind of
his lame now, like it didn't hold up that well.
So that's why I seeing a movie over and over
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doesn't have to fall into my category of my favorite movies.
Now I'm pricing old school thirty times. You know, if
we look at movies and go old school hitch comedies,
you can kind of watch over and over. Yeah, they
hold up a little bit better. Yeah, that's number two.
Do you have any questions about that one? I think
I want to get to number one. Well, and I'm
just not a Jim Carrey fan and a hater, but
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my top two movies or Jim Carrey movies, yeah, listen,
you like the serious Team Carey though, right, because you
know what would be in the top five if I
were doing top five, would for sure be The Truman Show.
It's not number one, but it's in that honorable mention
because it's that you have to think outside of what
you know, and then that's when it gets scary for people.
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Gets scary for me to like, I know what I
can see in touch and been taught, but what if
there's something that we have no idea. That's what Truman
Show is. He hasn't He's part of a freaking he
was born. They're watching him the whole time. He has
no idea, finally figures it out, takes a big risk,
could die, you know. And if you don't look at
it as here's a guy on a boat going at
the end, going like, here's a guy that's risking everything
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to go find out what's true, people have to do
that on a much larger level a lot of times,
leaving their cultures, leaving and so that movie hit me
pretty hard. That would be in top five, But my
number one have three Jim and I don't. I don't know.
I'm not an anti Jim Carey guy. I just wouldn't
think I'm a huge Jim Carrey guy. I guess I'm
a huge serious Jim Carey guy because Jim Carey playing
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Andy Kaufman and Man on the Moon is my favorite
movie ever for a couple of reasons. One, I love
Andy Kaufman. Not the funniest of performers. Andy Kaufman never
set out to be the funniest. But Andy Kaufman, the
performer who died when I was zero or one, wanted
to be someone who was noticed. Wanted to be someone
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who was always pushing it, even if people didn't like it.
And I love I didn't always love bits that Andy
Kaufman did something I thought were lame, but I think
that that's pretty amazing that he would go out and
try stuff that could bomb their face off and be like,
well that didn't work, what else can I do to see?
I admired that about him as a performer, um, and
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all the stuffs highlighted that were worked really great for him,
the wrestling, um, the having an opening act in front
of him that was actually him, and then later got um,
you know, he got one of his buddies in it too,
his manager. So I loved Andy Kaufman. Now to make
that story because I was already such a big Andy
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Kaufman fan, But like history, it would be like somebody
now loving like a musician now who's thirty years old,
loving Johnny Cash and like watching Johnny Cash documentaries. That
that's what it was like with Andy Kauf Because knew
I wanted to be a performer. I knew I was
never gonna be a straight stand up because that was
not the skill that I decided to pursue early on.
I'm not particularly talented at writing jokes with punch lines.
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I think you're a far better writer of jokes than
I am. But I knew I could go out, get
on a stage and perform doing whatever I needed to do.
Some stand up sure, some music sure, some improv absolutely,
and some even the jokes that I would do in
my early attempts when I was touring a comedy. I
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just love to make the audience feel awkward. I just
I love that feeling of like the air being sucked
out of the room. And I had a couple of
jokes that I would do. I don't do them any
more books. I wrote them in my last book. But
it was, by the way, the set that the setup is.
You know, on Facebook, you get that thing friends you
may know, and it's like all these people that aren't
your friends right now, but it goes friends you may know,
all the pictures. And I did just a little bit
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about Facebook, and I was like, you know, I just
got one of those friends you may know notifications, and
it was my my biological father. Um, the weird thing
is I don't. And then I would just sit and
it was really uncomfortable. Sometimes thatis pep, really uncontable. Some
people would laugh and I'll be like, this is a
messed up audience. Sometimes you hear laughing. Some people wouldn't
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get it. It It would just be weird. But I would
just sit so long to let people figure it out.
And then you'd hear some booze or or come on
or groans, and I'm like, all right, sorry, sorry, sorry,
And I would follow that up with the joke. Fine,
we'll do something. We'll break it up here. I'll do
an impression, not the best of impressions, but I'm now
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going to do an impression of my biological father. And
I would walk off the stage and leave and I
would just sit on the side. You see me do
it something that's sit out there longer than others, and
the crowd didn't know how to react. And I love
and I would love it when it would be the
most uncomfortable. And but that's one on what Andy Kaufman did,
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and you know, he's kind of what inspired me even
in my earliest radio days early to mid when we
would do really uncomfortable stuff on the air, meaning we
wanted to see reactions people live. Um. But so I'm
a big Andy Kaufman fan for for someone to go
into that movie and nail it like Jim Carrey did
with a bit of his own spin. But I don't
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think he put that much on it because I think
he also was a massive Andy Kaufman fan, so he
wanted to keep it as true as possible. For the
movie to be good and written. Well, big big deal
for Jim Carrey to nail it and for it just
to come together. I thought, Who's I was nervous watching it, Um,
this was? But it was so good. It meant everything
that I want. It was somebody already loved it, was
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a great story about him, and it was an actor
nailing it. It was the Three Things you Want. So
that's my favorite movie because of that. I don't know
that if Andy Kaufman wasn't someone that I admired and
Jim Carrey didn't nail him, that I would feel that
way about that movie. But I went into it going
love it. I loved Howard Sterns private parts. I don't
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know if I never had known Howard Stern wasn't He
wasn't a big influence on how I do radio that
I would have felt the way about them. I don't know.
Maybe it gets people love it, but it's just people
who love Stern. I love Howard Stern. But that's it.
It's those three. It's number three Bill and Texan Adventure
because of the funny and the learning. Number two Jim
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Carey An Eternal Sunshine at the Spotless Mind because it
cut me and there's still a scar that I can
see today. And then number one is Andy Coffin Man
on the Moon, Jim Carrey in that because he nailed
the character. I love Andy Coffman. It was a well
written story. And then it it just has a perfect ending,
a perfect ending for that movie and that story. What
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I want to get into now is um one of
I think the arguments that we've We've had some arguments,
but I think this one is the biggest one we've
ever had, and I wanted to get into it about
the Marvel Universe cool of that. Yeah, now, I'm not
a Marvel expert by any means. I don't know that
I haven't seen all the movies. I've seen all the
Avengers and not I didn't rush to see them. So
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you will win this argument because I don't have enough history.
I don't know the fact I haven't seen I've pricing
half of them. Okay, so go hit me with it.
I'm going into this though, Okay, a little underweight. All right. Well,
the thing is, I've had this idea of an episode
that I'm gonna do of retelling. Instead of remaking a
movie and rebooting a movie, you do a movie from
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a different perspective. So I was thinking of like if
you took the Avengers and switched it as Danos is
the good guy and it's the Avengers trying to stop
his plan. But you have a theory that Daniels is
actually a good guy in the Avengers movies. Well, and
I said this as soon as I finished the movie.
I was like, wow, I maan, if you just tell
the story on the other side of it, Danos is
not the bad guy. And people acted like I had
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kicked their puppy man because in the version we see
Thanos is the bad guy. Because we have a relationship
with all the quote unquote good characters, we know them,
we know they're back stories. Again, you can correate me
on facts because I've only seen it once. But I
just think I remember, Danos went and destroyed a bunch
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of planets, right, killed lots of people to collect stones,
because once you have enough stones, you then have control
of the universe everything. Yet, and the reason he wanted
control of everything is because back on his planet, he
saw it die because it was overpopulated. There weren't enough
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resources for everyone, and so not only did see everybody die,
he saw everybody struggling for a long time until they died.
And so he goes, I don't want that to happen
to the world. So he had to make the decision
of I would rather collect all the stones and eliminate
half the people and those people have a real shot
to thrive and keep the planets going, than to not
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and let everything die by itself. Anyway, Now, I don't
know that he was right or wrong. Ideologically, he has
a point. I would even compare it to rough comparison.
Here's here, here's here's your headlines for his podcast. But
by the way, I don't think that. I think Danils
had a different idea. And I think if we saw
before I get to my point, if we saw Thanos
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as a kid growing up and why he had to
make tough decisions and the abuse that he went through
to get to this point and feel this way. If
that movie was from the very start and Thanos was
beat and it's hungry, and he's like, when I grew up,
I'm not gonna let this happen to the planet. Um,
I have to make the tough choice that some people
have to die to save the others. I will rather
than everyone die because I don't want to see everyone die,
because that's what was gonna happen. He saw that happened
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on this planet. Him seeing hardship inspired him to do this.
That's what's forgotten in this movie. Him seeing people struggling
and dying, him seeing the super Bad made him want
to go and stop that. So ideologically he was different.
We just saw the Avengers as the good guys. We
grew up with them. We know, yeah, you know how
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you're gonna root againt somebody from America when you're in America.
I would say in a different way the people. Now,
let's say, with coronavirus going on, people that are like,
you know what, let's just let people will go out
and run. Then we'd rather have the economy stay up
and have people go out, and if they get sick,
they get sick. But we'd rather see the economy thrive.
If people get sick and some die, that's just what happens.
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I think that's a bit of just two ideological differences.
Some people go and keep everybody in, nobody gets sick.
We are the economy crashes, some go. You know what,
if some have to die so the economy can stay up,
then that's like Danos. If we'd have that parallels now
it Yeah, Dandos was like I would rather see some
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people go down, but the basis, like the reason that
we exist as a society, like to have a shot
rather than ever. Not the perfect analogy, but still I
can see two ideals competing with again with each other,
and depending who's telling the story and what their situation is,
it could be right from either side. I don't think
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Danios was just a pure villain. And I think if
you saw him growing up and I had to make
those decisions, because again, the core of his decision was
he saw people dying and didn't want that to happen
everybody else. That's it. There's no it gets no core
more core than that he saw death and destruction and
didn't want that for everybody I see, I could see that,
But I think there's a point where he kind of
turns and he ends up doing it at a spite
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rather than him trying to save people. And I think
it's more becomes that he wants to have all the power.
And there's really nothing saying that by eliminating half the
population that everything will be able to sustain itself. But
there is saying that if you don't eliminate and there
is an overpopulation, that nothing will sustain itself. But what
if he took that power and doubled resources. There's something
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else like that, and did it for good credit a
new planet. I don't remember the whole story here, And
what all I'm saying is at the Cora Fanos, that's
not a villain. He only did all of that because
he saw death, sadness, poverty. That's so why did everything? Now,
he may have made some wrong decisions amongst the way
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it could have been. We all are polluted with different
I've been guilty of it too, killing people. But you know,
as you grow, you have good things that come to
you and bad, and you're trying to figure it out
as you go. My only thing one and I may
not be right on all those facts. I haven't seen
the movie, but once is it Danos, if shown from
a different director writer, he's a good guy. But that's
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just the killing part that messes with people. But if
you don't think every all these countries are killing people
for their own causes. Anyway, every country, they're all killing
people for their own causes. Because then then what he
wanted to do an endgame was I don't you're now
you're out of it. I don't even know. I'm not
even talking about the storylines. All I remember is going
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danas A getting a bad rector. He was only doing
all of this so everyone didn't suffer. He made the
tough decision in his heart. He'd rather see some people
die so some people could thrive rather than everybody dies slowly.
So right or wrong, I'm not on team Thanos, but
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I definitely didn't think he deserved to be the super
villain that he was. When the movie was out and
all I said, and it's it's funny this is last
because it gets brought to me all the time. All
I said was, I don't think he's the villain if
you tell that story from his side, But throughout history
you can tell the story from almost any one side
that's the villain, and they're the good guy. No villain
ever thinks they're the bad guy. By the way. They're
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all fighting for for a just cause in their mind.
So and the good guys are the ones that win.
By the way, throughout history, the stories that we know
of the good guys, we won. That's why we that's
why we're here if we I just drank a big
sparkling water for this thing. Okay, but then that's that's
not really where he wanted to go. But that's why
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I think that thanos Is was probably a bad dude
by the end of it. But I don't think he
was a bad I don't think he was a villain
for his cause. That's right. You've been You've been changed
a little bit by not a lot. Yeah, okay, all right.
The last thing I want to get into is I
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did an episode a couple of weeks ago about one
Hit Wonder actors, and you actually submitted yourself for band Slam.
Yeah was that on Instagram? Sy on Instagram story? So
people may not know, but back In two thousand nine,
you were in a movie called Band Slam. So I
had five questions for you about that movie. That was
two thousand nine, two nine. I had that dopey hair
at twenty nine years old. Holy crap. Wow, okay, go ahead, alright,
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So Band Slam two thousand nine. Did you audition for it? Yeah?
I did. Man, I haven't thought about this since that. Wow,
I did audition for that movie. What was that? Like?
Someone called me and said, hey, they're doing this movie.
They're shooting it in Austin because they can use the
University of Texas theater and music, um, and it was
cheaper to shoot movies and Texas at the time. Now,
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Louisiana's a big hub for movies, but it was until recently.
It's all about taxes, right, That's why a lot of
stuff is in Canada. Yeah, you can. So they're like,
they're shooting this, but they have a role of a
guy named Gordy which was my name at first, who
hosts a big competition. You have some lines. You're it's
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like at the time it was like nineteen lines. He
got cut weight down to nine I think by the
time it was over. But you have like nineteen lines.
But they need someone who's like, you know, in his
twenties and it's cool. And I was like, well, it's
not that cool. So I went and there was a
long line wrapped around the building of guys that were
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good looking, like lots of hair jail, lots of the
actor type. Uh. And so I went to pair of
jeans and white T shirt because I didn't know what
I was doing. I remember thinking I was gonna be
the only one the audition because I thought they just
hadn't ready for me. I was like, oh, I got
invited to do this movie. It with a bunch of people.
So I went into this room. This is just a
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room like a bedroom at a house, and there were
two people sitting behind the long table and they're like, okay,
ridge alliones. I didn't memorize mine. I guess most people
did because I'm a script in my hand. And so
I was like, oh, can you either gonna play the
show here? This man they're never gonna and they were
like all right, thank you very much, and I left.
That was it. I never thought I was gonna get
a call back because it didn't go well in the room.
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I thought because they showed me, no emotion, nothing. It
was like, wow, that was great. They didn't say it
was great, it was good. It was like, all right,
thanks a lot. Now walking I was like, dang, I
almost really sucked. And they called me back and they said, hey,
you're one of the best ones. Come back again. I
went back again. I was the only person there at
the second time. I think they were they just had
to spread out a little more. And I got a
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call and said, hey, you're in, and you're considered because
you have this many many lines. You're a principal actor.
And so I had my own trailer I had. I
was on the biggest level with the lowest amount of
work and money, like I was if in the A
less part of that movie. It was Vanessa Hudgens, it
was Leasta Coudrophebe from Friends. It was Scott who was
in Friday Night Lights, and I forgot Scott's last name. Um.
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So there were these actors and of the A principles,
I was the bottom of the barrel, but I was
higher than all the extras and midst So I had
my own umbrella carrier to make sure my makeup when
sweat ahead that got on my clothes. I had a trailer.
It was crazy. I got paid three or four thousand
dollars a day for about seven days. I remember making
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about twenty dollars on that movie for a week's work.
That's pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't what they made obvious,
but that's what I got. You still get checks from it, Yeah,
but it's like sin. Yeah, three cents, twelve cents. Sometimes
I'll get a dollar tin or something like that. So
that that was that movie. How many days did you
actually film a week? I mean it was a week straight.
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The thing that stunk was I Again, I was a principal,
so they kept us all together. We ate together, and
again I didn't know anybody because I wasn't a real actor.
I didn't know any of them, so they didn't really
let me in their cool group and they would all
pretty much all the princes block, like all right, we're
gonna go play Supernintendo and we're gonna have this party.
I was never invited anything, um because they didn't know me.
And I also had the radio show, So I did
(32:18):
the radio show all morning and go straight over so
some of the bonding stuff it was late at night.
I couldn't go to anyway. But I never really got
invited to do anything. Did you end up meeting all
the co stars? Yeah? At least Coucho was really nice.
We sat in the makeup chair beside each other for
like an hour one day and she was super nice.
It was really going. She played the mom on that
that movie. Um, it's one of the only time we spoke,
but yeah, I met her. Bessa Hudgons was okay. Um
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the Scott I wish I had it was last name,
but he was. He was really nice. Are you surprised
that it has rating on Ryan Tomatoes? Wow? Um, I'm
I was surprised that it when it came out that
it didn't make more at the box office, because I
don't think it it well. I made five million opening
weekend and twelve million throughout the run while it was up,
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So you're talking about we didn't do that well financially,
but it kept getting shown everywhere. Every time I would see, uh,
like a weekend of rare weird movies on Disney that
would be like showing movies, it would pop up. That's
why I first I thought it on TV and I
will get checks on it air on t B, so
it for some reason It still airs now occasionally because
(33:26):
people keep sending me pictures of me with my big
curly hair. Yeah. Sometimes movie channels will repick it back
up and put it into rotation, which sometimes people say,
like these movies bomb, but they end up making money
back when they get put into syndication and stuff like that. Well,
this was no big financial risk for the movie makers.
I mean, for making a movie was expensive, I'm sure,
but I'm saying it wasn't like a hundred million dollar movie.
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It's twenty million. It wasn't water World. Yeah. Um, so yeah,
that was fun. I forgot it has been a long time.
And then, um, would you ever do another movie? It's
just the time you have to be on set and
shoot things ten eleven, twelve times. I'm sure it'll be
tough to do it right now, but I could if
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it was the right. Do you get offered stuff, some
small stuff, but I don't put myself in the mixed
for it either. You mostly have to audition, even some
of the big actors have to go on auditions for stuff,
and so I don't get offered stuff. No, as far
as movies that people would see, but I do get
offered to go audition for stuff, and I just never
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want to go do it. The only things I can
offered are like super Indica type stuff. Can they just
want anyone to be in it will promote it, So
that's like, hey, let's get buy a real because if
he talks about it, people might see it. So the
answer is no, not really. All right, Well there we go,
a big movie. Starrs first actor. Nice. All right, Well
thanks for hanging out. Yeah, alright, let's talk to you later.
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All right, that's the episode for this week. Hope you
enjoyed that one. Before I get out of here, I
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It's going to at voting Words on Instagram. A k
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If you want to Instagram shout out or a Twitter
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me in your Instagram story or tweet me at Mike Destro.
I'll try to retweet and post those in my story
as I see them, and then I'll give you a
shout out on next week's episode. And I got one
(35:33):
other thing to ask you, guys. So I want Bobby
to know that people listen to this episode, that I
didn't waste his time, and that I can get him
to come back on another episode. But what I need
you guys to do is go to his Instagram at
Mr Bobby Bones and tag me in a comment saying
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for the first time ever, and I'm gonna try to
get him to tell me his story through movies. Now,
he's not the biggest movie guy, but I have a
feeling his favorite movies will reveal some things about him
maybe you didn't know. I also want to get into
an argument him and I have about the Marvel Universe,
(00:45):
specifically about Thanos and whether or not he is a
good guy or bad guy depending on how you look
at him. So we'll get into that. And also I
want to talk about the movie he was in, because
back in the day he did start in a movie
called bands Lamb and I want to ask him. I
got like five questions or so I want to ask
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Movie Movie Podcast. All right, joining me now on the podcast,
we have Bobby Bones. Never heard of this guy. I've
never interviewed you before, so it'll be a bit different today. Well,
I tend to uh take it my own way, so
feel free to stop me. But let me start by
staying there. Okay. I started watching the movie about the
(02:52):
Beastio Boys last night. Yeah, I know that a movie
podcast started it last night too. I don't like how
I don't like that put it together. It's a show.
I want a documentary the BC Boys. Yeah, that got
me a bit off, And I was trying to watch
with Kalin and I would have been into it enough
to sit through all of it like that, but that
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was a struggle for her. I just I don't like
how it's format it now. I only watched again right
the sixth of it. That's it well, because she wasn't
feeling it. She didn't know the guys on stage. I
think if it were a documentary, a good documentary you
can watch without knowing anything personally about it. You can
just jump in and go while I'm learning something. But
you kind of needed to know who those guys were
(03:35):
when they're out, because if you haven't seen it yet,
you probably haven't because I'm a big Beastie Boys fan
and I had it until last night. There it's a
in a theater and it's a live recording of the
Beastie Boys showing pictures and telling stories of their life.
Does it ever get more as a documentary or does
it stay like that? It stays like I've watched an
hour of it and it stays like that the whole time,
(03:55):
and I think it's still interesting. But yeah, like you said,
it feels like you're not really getting the whole story
because they're kind of just telling it and lets you
know them already. You don't feel it's connected, like, oh,
you could just go into this without knowing anything about them.
And I love the beast Too Boys. One of the
most influential musical groups of my life when it comes
to how I modeled any of my career, not just broadcasting,
(04:18):
but the music. I like. The music that I do
kind of funny, and for a while I was a
funny hip hop artist and you know, being a white kid,
and you see other white guys that were funny but
could still be cool. So, uh, yeah, I'm not through
on how you felt about that. Will you finish them?
I will, but I won't with her. I'll probably finish
(04:40):
it tonight. Did your girl watch it with you? Ye?
She liked it, but she likes older brothers. Yeah. Okay,
Well that's all. That's my movie topic that I brought
in for discussion. But I'm not all the way there yet,
so I'll give you an update later. All right. So
what I want to do is get to know you
more through movies. So I guess I want to know
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your favorite movies from your life and like why they
affected you. And you call them your favorite movies. Well,
it's interesting because I'm not a movie guy as much
as you are this as much as I'm not. Just
I mean, I guess I watch them, but I never
really cared to sit down for that long. Um, unless
it was a true story, I could get more. It's
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like books. I can very much get into a nonfiction
book because I feel like I'm learning. Even if it's
not great a great book, I still feel like I'm learning.
I would compare all my media consumption for movies or
book like to the Queens. The movie that that sws
on Netflix is called The Queen the Crown. Yeah, the Crown,
thank you, because it's kind of boring, but it's just
(05:46):
good enough. But because you're learning, you stay in. That's
how I kind of feel about my movie. So I
was thinking about this. My top three movies. At number
three is probably Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Oh interesting
because eyes not since I want to watch over and
over again. But that's not in my criteria for best movies.
My criteria is stages of my life, movies that affected
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me the most in what way, and Bill and Ted's
Excellent Adventure was me for two reasons. One because it
was funny, but two I learned something in it because
in this movie, Bill and Ted are two idiot kids
who have to go back in time to create, uh
like an spoken report in a theater to pass and
if they don't get a great or so they fail
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out of school. I have to go to boarding school.
I've seen it so long, I'm okay. So what they
do is they find this time machine with George Carlin
and they go back through history and they meet all
these famous people and Napoleon, which I was like, okay,
I know a little about Napoleon, but maybe want to
learn more about Napoleon. Um so Creates who's also Socrates?
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Who I So you learn about all these folks, uh,
Joan of Arc, Abraham Lincoln. As you're laughing and it's
a really stupid movie. I also felt myself learning and
that for the much much of my life. I told
us probably nineteen or twenty was my favorite movie. I
was just that was it. That's what I just stuck with.
The movie came out nine were probably nine. Did you
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watch it when it came out or would you watch
it later? Like it's a teenager? Probably when it came
out to rent because we really couldn't afford to go
the movie. Um I went to as a young kid,
I would say twelve or below. I probably went to
two movies, and it was they were both when my
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mom met my stepdad. He took me to watch The
Babe with John Goodman because we were both big baseball
fans and white Man Can't Jump and enjoyed both of
them and they were sports movies, and that's really how
we bonded was through sports. But I can't really remember
going to any movie other than him taking me to
my first movies at twelve, and those were the two
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that I went to. I guess that was the same
way because I remember I had I didn't go to
the was a lot of the kid but I had
a cousin who would get everything on VHS and that's
kind of where I got all my movies from. Like
I'd be like, oh, you have all these movies I
get to watch now? Yeah, we would go to on
because what would happen at the movie store, which was
on the way to town. You could stop at the
movie store and you could rent a movie on Friday
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and pay the and you get to keep it till Sunday. However,
if you went on Saturday and the movies were left over,
because Saturday wasn't a big big rental day because it
only got one day to keep it, Like Thursday was Friday,
Wednesday was Thursday, but Friday was you can bring back Sunday.
You got an extra day because it was the same movie.
You got a half off, so if you want to,
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So we would go on Saturday see what was left,
and we rent movies from the you know, dollar ninety
nine or dollar twenty nine movie rental. You never got
the big ones. But I'm positive that I saw Bill
and Ted on VHS for the first time and it
watched it a lot of I think, kind of buying
it um which was crazy because I don't think we
had a BCR for a lot of time. But that's
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at number three, and that's really the only movie that
I'm bringing in from childhood. So Bill and Ted's excent
a mature. That means Bill and Ted's two was okay,
wasn't that great? It was Bill and Ted and the
Grim Reaper was in it, Like I don't remember. I
remember being excited for it to come out, watching on
(09:22):
VHS and it was like it was okay. I still
loved there was Bill and Ted, but there they just
made Bill and Ted three. Ye, hopefully they finished it.
Do we know if they finished it. I think it's
what's close to being finished, but it's obviously delayed to
come out. Um so that number three, that number two, Well,
this is where it kind of got tricky with me, because, like,
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what movies just hit me the hardest. I guess because
I definitely wouldn't put down movies I've seen the most
as my favorite movies because that would be something on
TBS that I would stop. Hitch I've probably seen. I've
probably seen Hitch more than any movie just because it's
been on so many times. So I took that out
of my sort of list of things I needed to
have my favorite movie. So then I go, Okay, what movie.
(10:05):
Just when I finished it, I was like, oh, and
it had to I guess I can put them both
the number two, but the one that almost made the
list was Her. It didn't make the list, But the
other one, the other one want to pick it takes
its spot? Is that movie? When it finished, I went
to think, I felt that because Her before I honorable mention.
Her is about a guy who just can't find love
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because he's odd, so he finds love with an outside
but it was an outsider. That's really the the over
art of the story. It's not so much that it's
an operating system that's a big part of it. But
the real part of the story is guy doesn't fit in.
He finds some other way to find somebody he loves
and it turns out it's you know, basically falling in
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love with Safari on your computer. Um. And so if
you look at it from you know, above the forest
instead of in the tree, it's a sad romantic story.
If you look at it from the trades, it's the
weird old guy who falls in love with a computer. Um.
I loved her because when I turned it off, I
was like, dang, I kind of felt that I could
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never fit in, never had girls. Was always like I'm
gonna have to fall in love with something or someone different. Um.
But I watched that and there's a great movie. I
loved it that you either loved that or hated that.
Did Spike Jones do that movie? And he did the
Beast two Boys documents we're talking about, But what did
he do? Because here's the documentary, what does Spike Jones do?
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By tacking and watch it in the theater, I think
he's like doing all the stage direction because they like
call him out like during the later on. Okay, I
must not hitting the sound effects and like running the
slides and all that. He put all that together. Okay,
I was gonna say stage direction, they just stand up
the pictures. Um. So her didn't make it. But this
movie that gave me the same kind of feeling did
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which was Eternal Sunshine in the Spotless Mind, which is
the Gym Carey movie. And I'm not a big carry guy,
but I'll watch that movie and it was would you
eliminate all of these toxic, sad, unworthy feelings that you
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have accumulated? And with him it was her, um if
you could, like would or would you keep them all
and grow from it? And it didn't hit me on
a romantic level, but hit me on a personal level
was like, dang, I've been to munch of crap in
my life. Would I get rid of that? Or would
I not? And you know, I thought about it for long,
but because that movie made think about it for a
long time, I still think about that based on the movie.
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I may I may have lin sed that movie once
or twice, but I'm just going from the lasting feeling
that it gave me when it finished. So number two
is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Because of I
still feel a scar from that movie, like it cut
me in the right way, and that scar is still there.
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Have you ever seen it if you need, I've probably
watched it pretty recently, like maybe within the year really,
and it's I think it still holds up, and I
remember it kind of hit me like that to that
first line where he's like he's sitting on that train
and that line he says about he falls in love
with like any girl. I was like, dangn that kind
of hit me pretty hard. See, I don't remember anything
about it because I've only seen it once or twice,
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and I don't know if it holds up. Almost don't
want to watch it again because and in the same
way I had never listened to my favorite interviews on
on the radio show. I don't want to remember it
differently than I felt it, especially if I felt something
that a feeling that was so distinct, like I can
remember how I felt when the movie finished. So there
are interviews in my career, uh Kevin Smith early John
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Mayer interviewed that we did my first time time into
Garth Brooks. I won't go back and look at or
listen to it anyway because I don't want to look
at and go, oh, that's kind of stupid. I shouldn't
have said that, or same way with probably this movie
unless someone just wanted to see it. I don't want
to go back and go like this maybe kind of
his lame now, like it didn't hold up that well.
So that's why I seeing a movie over and over
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doesn't have to fall into my category of my favorite movies.
Now I'm pricing old school thirty times. You know, if
we look at movies and go old school hitch comedies,
you can kind of watch over and over. Yeah, they
hold up a little bit better. Yeah, that's number two.
Do you have any questions about that one? I think
I want to get to number one. Well, and I'm
just not a Jim Carrey fan and a hater, but
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my top two movies or Jim Carrey movies, yeah, listen,
you like the serious Team Carey though, right, because you
know what would be in the top five if I
were doing top five, would for sure be The Truman Show.
It's not number one, but it's in that honorable mention
because it's that you have to think outside of what
you know, and then that's when it gets scary for people.
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Gets scary for me to like, I know what I
can see in touch and been taught, but what if
there's something that we have no idea. That's what Truman
Show is. He hasn't He's part of a freaking he
was born. They're watching him the whole time. He has
no idea, finally figures it out, takes a big risk,
could die, you know. And if you don't look at
it as here's a guy on a boat going at
the end, going like, here's a guy that's risking everything
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to go find out what's true, people have to do
that on a much larger level a lot of times,
leaving their cultures, leaving and so that movie hit me
pretty hard. That would be in top five, But my
number one have three Jim and I don't. I don't know.
I'm not an anti Jim Carey guy. I just wouldn't
think I'm a huge Jim Carrey guy. I guess I'm
a huge serious Jim Carey guy because Jim Carey playing
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Andy Kaufman and Man on the Moon is my favorite
movie ever for a couple of reasons. One, I love
Andy Kaufman. Not the funniest of performers. Andy Kaufman never
set out to be the funniest. But Andy Kaufman, the
performer who died when I was zero or one, wanted
to be someone who was noticed. Wanted to be someone
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who was always pushing it, even if people didn't like it.
And I love I didn't always love bits that Andy
Kaufman did something I thought were lame, but I think
that that's pretty amazing that he would go out and
try stuff that could bomb their face off and be like,
well that didn't work, what else can I do to see?
I admired that about him as a performer, um, and
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all the stuffs highlighted that were worked really great for him,
the wrestling, um, the having an opening act in front
of him that was actually him, and then later got um,
you know, he got one of his buddies in it too,
his manager. So I loved Andy Kaufman. Now to make
that story because I was already such a big Andy
(16:34):
Kaufman fan, But like history, it would be like somebody
now loving like a musician now who's thirty years old,
loving Johnny Cash and like watching Johnny Cash documentaries. That
that's what it was like with Andy Kauf Because knew
I wanted to be a performer. I knew I was
never gonna be a straight stand up because that was
not the skill that I decided to pursue early on.
I'm not particularly talented at writing jokes with punch lines.
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I think you're a far better writer of jokes than
I am. But I knew I could go out, get
on a stage and perform doing whatever I needed to do.
Some stand up sure, some music sure, some improv absolutely,
and some even the jokes that I would do in
my early attempts when I was touring a comedy. I
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just love to make the audience feel awkward. I just
I love that feeling of like the air being sucked
out of the room. And I had a couple of
jokes that I would do. I don't do them any
more books. I wrote them in my last book. But
it was, by the way, the set that the setup is.
You know, on Facebook, you get that thing friends you
may know, and it's like all these people that aren't
your friends right now, but it goes friends you may know,
all the pictures. And I did just a little bit
(17:40):
about Facebook, and I was like, you know, I just
got one of those friends you may know notifications, and
it was my my biological father. Um, the weird thing
is I don't. And then I would just sit and
it was really uncomfortable. Sometimes thatis pep, really uncontable. Some
people would laugh and I'll be like, this is a
messed up audience. Sometimes you hear laughing. Some people wouldn't
(18:00):
get it. It It would just be weird. But I would
just sit so long to let people figure it out.
And then you'd hear some booze or or come on
or groans, and I'm like, all right, sorry, sorry, sorry,
And I would follow that up with the joke. Fine,
we'll do something. We'll break it up here. I'll do
an impression, not the best of impressions, but I'm now
(18:21):
going to do an impression of my biological father. And
I would walk off the stage and leave and I
would just sit on the side. You see me do
it something that's sit out there longer than others, and
the crowd didn't know how to react. And I love
and I would love it when it would be the
most uncomfortable. And but that's one on what Andy Kaufman did,
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and you know, he's kind of what inspired me even
in my earliest radio days early to mid when we
would do really uncomfortable stuff on the air, meaning we
wanted to see reactions people live. Um. But so I'm
a big Andy Kaufman fan for for someone to go
into that movie and nail it like Jim Carrey did
with a bit of his own spin. But I don't
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think he put that much on it because I think
he also was a massive Andy Kaufman fan, so he
wanted to keep it as true as possible. For the
movie to be good and written. Well, big big deal
for Jim Carrey to nail it and for it just
to come together. I thought, Who's I was nervous watching it, Um,
this was? But it was so good. It meant everything
that I want. It was somebody already loved it, was
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a great story about him, and it was an actor
nailing it. It was the Three Things you Want. So
that's my favorite movie because of that. I don't know
that if Andy Kaufman wasn't someone that I admired and
Jim Carrey didn't nail him, that I would feel that
way about that movie. But I went into it going
love it. I loved Howard Sterns private parts. I don't
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know if I never had known Howard Stern wasn't He
wasn't a big influence on how I do radio that
I would have felt the way about them. I don't know.
Maybe it gets people love it, but it's just people
who love Stern. I love Howard Stern. But that's it.
It's those three. It's number three Bill and Texan Adventure
because of the funny and the learning. Number two Jim
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Carey An Eternal Sunshine at the Spotless Mind because it
cut me and there's still a scar that I can
see today. And then number one is Andy Coffin Man
on the Moon, Jim Carrey in that because he nailed
the character. I love Andy Coffman. It was a well
written story. And then it it just has a perfect ending,
a perfect ending for that movie and that story. What
(20:30):
I want to get into now is um one of
I think the arguments that we've We've had some arguments,
but I think this one is the biggest one we've
ever had, and I wanted to get into it about
the Marvel Universe cool of that. Yeah, now, I'm not
a Marvel expert by any means. I don't know that
I haven't seen all the movies. I've seen all the
Avengers and not I didn't rush to see them. So
(20:55):
you will win this argument because I don't have enough history.
I don't know the fact I haven't seen I've pricing
half of them. Okay, so go hit me with it.
I'm going into this though, Okay, a little underweight. All right. Well,
the thing is, I've had this idea of an episode
that I'm gonna do of retelling. Instead of remaking a
movie and rebooting a movie, you do a movie from
(21:16):
a different perspective. So I was thinking of like if
you took the Avengers and switched it as Danos is
the good guy and it's the Avengers trying to stop
his plan. But you have a theory that Daniels is
actually a good guy in the Avengers movies. Well, and
I said this as soon as I finished the movie.
I was like, wow, I maan, if you just tell
the story on the other side of it, Danos is
not the bad guy. And people acted like I had
(21:37):
kicked their puppy man because in the version we see
Thanos is the bad guy. Because we have a relationship
with all the quote unquote good characters, we know them,
we know they're back stories. Again, you can correate me
on facts because I've only seen it once. But I
just think I remember, Danos went and destroyed a bunch
(22:00):
of planets, right, killed lots of people to collect stones,
because once you have enough stones, you then have control
of the universe everything. Yet, and the reason he wanted
control of everything is because back on his planet, he
saw it die because it was overpopulated. There weren't enough
(22:24):
resources for everyone, and so not only did see everybody die,
he saw everybody struggling for a long time until they died.
And so he goes, I don't want that to happen
to the world. So he had to make the decision
of I would rather collect all the stones and eliminate
half the people and those people have a real shot
to thrive and keep the planets going, than to not
(22:45):
and let everything die by itself. Anyway, Now, I don't
know that he was right or wrong. Ideologically, he has
a point. I would even compare it to rough comparison.
Here's here, here's here's your headlines for his podcast. But
by the way, I don't think that. I think Danils
had a different idea. And I think if we saw
before I get to my point, if we saw Thanos
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as a kid growing up and why he had to
make tough decisions and the abuse that he went through
to get to this point and feel this way. If
that movie was from the very start and Thanos was
beat and it's hungry, and he's like, when I grew up,
I'm not gonna let this happen to the planet. Um,
I have to make the tough choice that some people
have to die to save the others. I will rather
than everyone die because I don't want to see everyone die,
because that's what was gonna happen. He saw that happened
(23:27):
on this planet. Him seeing hardship inspired him to do this.
That's what's forgotten in this movie. Him seeing people struggling
and dying, him seeing the super Bad made him want
to go and stop that. So ideologically he was different.
We just saw the Avengers as the good guys. We
grew up with them. We know, yeah, you know how
(23:49):
you're gonna root againt somebody from America when you're in America.
I would say in a different way the people. Now,
let's say, with coronavirus going on, people that are like,
you know what, let's just let people will go out
and run. Then we'd rather have the economy stay up
and have people go out, and if they get sick,
they get sick. But we'd rather see the economy thrive.
If people get sick and some die, that's just what happens.
(24:12):
I think that's a bit of just two ideological differences.
Some people go and keep everybody in, nobody gets sick.
We are the economy crashes, some go. You know what,
if some have to die so the economy can stay up,
then that's like Danos. If we'd have that parallels now
it Yeah, Dandos was like I would rather see some
(24:36):
people go down, but the basis, like the reason that
we exist as a society, like to have a shot
rather than ever. Not the perfect analogy, but still I
can see two ideals competing with again with each other,
and depending who's telling the story and what their situation is,
it could be right from either side. I don't think
(24:58):
Danios was just a pure villain. And I think if
you saw him growing up and I had to make
those decisions, because again, the core of his decision was
he saw people dying and didn't want that to happen
everybody else. That's it. There's no it gets no core
more core than that he saw death and destruction and
didn't want that for everybody I see, I could see that,
But I think there's a point where he kind of
turns and he ends up doing it at a spite
(25:19):
rather than him trying to save people. And I think
it's more becomes that he wants to have all the power.
And there's really nothing saying that by eliminating half the
population that everything will be able to sustain itself. But
there is saying that if you don't eliminate and there
is an overpopulation, that nothing will sustain itself. But what
if he took that power and doubled resources. There's something
(25:42):
else like that, and did it for good credit a
new planet. I don't remember the whole story here, And
what all I'm saying is at the Cora Fanos, that's
not a villain. He only did all of that because
he saw death, sadness, poverty. That's so why did everything? Now,
he may have made some wrong decisions amongst the way
(26:03):
it could have been. We all are polluted with different
I've been guilty of it too, killing people. But you know,
as you grow, you have good things that come to
you and bad, and you're trying to figure it out
as you go. My only thing one and I may
not be right on all those facts. I haven't seen
the movie, but once is it Danos, if shown from
a different director writer, he's a good guy. But that's
(26:30):
just the killing part that messes with people. But if
you don't think every all these countries are killing people
for their own causes. Anyway, every country, they're all killing
people for their own causes. Because then then what he
wanted to do an endgame was I don't you're now
you're out of it. I don't even know. I'm not
even talking about the storylines. All I remember is going
(26:53):
danas A getting a bad rector. He was only doing
all of this so everyone didn't suffer. He made the
tough decision in his heart. He'd rather see some people
die so some people could thrive rather than everybody dies slowly.
So right or wrong, I'm not on team Thanos, but
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I definitely didn't think he deserved to be the super
villain that he was. When the movie was out and
all I said, and it's it's funny this is last
because it gets brought to me all the time. All
I said was, I don't think he's the villain if
you tell that story from his side, But throughout history
you can tell the story from almost any one side
that's the villain, and they're the good guy. No villain
ever thinks they're the bad guy. By the way. They're
(27:35):
all fighting for for a just cause in their mind.
So and the good guys are the ones that win.
By the way, throughout history, the stories that we know
of the good guys, we won. That's why we that's
why we're here if we I just drank a big
sparkling water for this thing. Okay, but then that's that's
not really where he wanted to go. But that's why
(27:57):
I think that thanos Is was probably a bad dude
by the end of it. But I don't think he
was a bad I don't think he was a villain
for his cause. That's right. You've been You've been changed
a little bit by not a lot. Yeah, okay, all right.
The last thing I want to get into is I
(28:19):
did an episode a couple of weeks ago about one
Hit Wonder actors, and you actually submitted yourself for band Slam.
Yeah was that on Instagram? Sy on Instagram story? So
people may not know, but back In two thousand nine,
you were in a movie called Band Slam. So I
had five questions for you about that movie. That was
two thousand nine, two nine. I had that dopey hair
at twenty nine years old. Holy crap. Wow, okay, go ahead, alright,
(28:40):
So Band Slam two thousand nine. Did you audition for it? Yeah?
I did. Man, I haven't thought about this since that. Wow,
I did audition for that movie. What was that? Like?
Someone called me and said, hey, they're doing this movie.
They're shooting it in Austin because they can use the
University of Texas theater and music, um, and it was
cheaper to shoot movies and Texas at the time. Now,
(29:03):
Louisiana's a big hub for movies, but it was until recently.
It's all about taxes, right, That's why a lot of
stuff is in Canada. Yeah, you can. So they're like,
they're shooting this, but they have a role of a
guy named Gordy which was my name at first, who
hosts a big competition. You have some lines. You're it's
(29:23):
like at the time it was like nineteen lines. He
got cut weight down to nine I think by the
time it was over. But you have like nineteen lines.
But they need someone who's like, you know, in his
twenties and it's cool. And I was like, well, it's
not that cool. So I went and there was a
long line wrapped around the building of guys that were
(29:43):
good looking, like lots of hair jail, lots of the
actor type. Uh. And so I went to pair of
jeans and white T shirt because I didn't know what
I was doing. I remember thinking I was gonna be
the only one the audition because I thought they just
hadn't ready for me. I was like, oh, I got
invited to do this movie. It with a bunch of people.
So I went into this room. This is just a
(30:04):
room like a bedroom at a house, and there were
two people sitting behind the long table and they're like, okay,
ridge alliones. I didn't memorize mine. I guess most people
did because I'm a script in my hand. And so
I was like, oh, can you either gonna play the
show here? This man they're never gonna and they were
like all right, thank you very much, and I left.
That was it. I never thought I was gonna get
a call back because it didn't go well in the room.
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I thought because they showed me, no emotion, nothing. It
was like, wow, that was great. They didn't say it
was great, it was good. It was like, all right,
thanks a lot. Now walking I was like, dang, I
almost really sucked. And they called me back and they said, hey,
you're one of the best ones. Come back again. I
went back again. I was the only person there at
the second time. I think they were they just had
to spread out a little more. And I got a
(30:47):
call and said, hey, you're in, and you're considered because
you have this many many lines. You're a principal actor.
And so I had my own trailer I had. I
was on the biggest level with the lowest amount of
work and money, like I was if in the A
less part of that movie. It was Vanessa Hudgens, it
was Leasta Coudrophebe from Friends. It was Scott who was
in Friday Night Lights, and I forgot Scott's last name. Um.
(31:10):
So there were these actors and of the A principles,
I was the bottom of the barrel, but I was
higher than all the extras and midst So I had
my own umbrella carrier to make sure my makeup when
sweat ahead that got on my clothes. I had a trailer.
It was crazy. I got paid three or four thousand
dollars a day for about seven days. I remember making
(31:34):
about twenty dollars on that movie for a week's work.
That's pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't what they made obvious,
but that's what I got. You still get checks from it, Yeah,
but it's like sin. Yeah, three cents, twelve cents. Sometimes
I'll get a dollar tin or something like that. So
that that was that movie. How many days did you
actually film a week? I mean it was a week straight.
(31:57):
The thing that stunk was I Again, I was a principal,
so they kept us all together. We ate together, and
again I didn't know anybody because I wasn't a real actor.
I didn't know any of them, so they didn't really
let me in their cool group and they would all
pretty much all the princes block, like all right, we're
gonna go play Supernintendo and we're gonna have this party.
I was never invited anything, um because they didn't know me.
And I also had the radio show, So I did
(32:18):
the radio show all morning and go straight over so
some of the bonding stuff it was late at night.
I couldn't go to anyway. But I never really got
invited to do anything. Did you end up meeting all
the co stars? Yeah? At least Coucho was really nice.
We sat in the makeup chair beside each other for
like an hour one day and she was super nice.
It was really going. She played the mom on that
that movie. Um, it's one of the only time we spoke,
but yeah, I met her. Bessa Hudgons was okay. Um
(32:42):
the Scott I wish I had it was last name,
but he was. He was really nice. Are you surprised
that it has rating on Ryan Tomatoes? Wow? Um, I'm
I was surprised that it when it came out that
it didn't make more at the box office, because I
don't think it it well. I made five million opening
weekend and twelve million throughout the run while it was up,
(33:05):
So you're talking about we didn't do that well financially,
but it kept getting shown everywhere. Every time I would see, uh,
like a weekend of rare weird movies on Disney that
would be like showing movies, it would pop up. That's
why I first I thought it on TV and I
will get checks on it air on t B, so
it for some reason It still airs now occasionally because
(33:26):
people keep sending me pictures of me with my big
curly hair. Yeah. Sometimes movie channels will repick it back
up and put it into rotation, which sometimes people say,
like these movies bomb, but they end up making money
back when they get put into syndication and stuff like that. Well,
this was no big financial risk for the movie makers.
I mean, for making a movie was expensive, I'm sure,
but I'm saying it wasn't like a hundred million dollar movie.
(33:48):
It's twenty million. It wasn't water World. Yeah. Um, so yeah,
that was fun. I forgot it has been a long time.
And then, um, would you ever do another movie? It's
just the time you have to be on set and
shoot things ten eleven, twelve times. I'm sure it'll be
tough to do it right now, but I could if
(34:09):
it was the right. Do you get offered stuff, some
small stuff, but I don't put myself in the mixed
for it either. You mostly have to audition, even some
of the big actors have to go on auditions for stuff,
and so I don't get offered stuff. No, as far
as movies that people would see, but I do get
offered to go audition for stuff, and I just never
(34:31):
want to go do it. The only things I can
offered are like super Indica type stuff. Can they just
want anyone to be in it will promote it, So
that's like, hey, let's get buy a real because if
he talks about it, people might see it. So the
answer is no, not really. All right, Well there we go,
a big movie. Starrs first actor. Nice. All right, Well
thanks for hanging out. Yeah, alright, let's talk to you later.
(34:52):
All right, that's the episode for this week. Hope you
enjoyed that one. Before I get out of here, I
gotta do my Instagram shout out of the week today.
It's going to at voting Words on Instagram. A k
a Ryan Garcia, who posted on his Instagram story that
he was listening to last week's episode. He says, this
(35:13):
Monday morning ritual. So thanks Ryan for listening every single week.
If you want to Instagram shout out or a Twitter
shout out, all you have to do is either tag
me in your Instagram story or tweet me at Mike Destro.
I'll try to retweet and post those in my story
as I see them, and then I'll give you a
shout out on next week's episode. And I got one
(35:33):
other thing to ask you, guys. So I want Bobby
to know that people listen to this episode, that I
didn't waste his time, and that I can get him
to come back on another episode. But what I need
you guys to do is go to his Instagram at
Mr Bobby Bones and tag me in a comment saying
that you listen to this week's episode. So just whatever
(35:54):
post is up there right now, when you listen to
this episode, just go say hey, I listened to you
on Movie Mike's podcast and tag me in that so
we can let them know that you should come back
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