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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike, and this is the spoiler
review of Blue Beetle, which is one of my favorite
DC movies probably ever. I think it's now a top
five DCEU movie for me, and I'm going to get
into all the details about why I love this movie.
So continue listening if you too have seen Blue Beetle,
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or if you had no intentions of seeing it and
you just want to hear all the spoilers, or if
you're going to see it maybe later and you're one
of those rare people who like hearing about every single
aspect of a movie before you go and watch it.
So we're going to get into all the spoiler details,
and I'm gonna do this episode a little bit differently
and give you my top five moments of the film
that will essentially recap the entire movie with all the
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spoilers in it. But the overview of this movie, it's
about Haima Reyes and the origin story of the Blue
Beetle and how he becomes the Blue Beatle by accident.
So how that happens is you have this company called
Cord Industries, which Susan Sarandon is the co founder and
CEO of this company, and at the very beginning of
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the movie, she discovers this ancient alien artifact known as
the Scare of I was worried at the beginning of
this movie because it had a very kind of generic intro,
and I was okay with I think one of the
most cliche things about this movie was her character just
being the overarching mean villain throughout this entire movie, with
this mastermind plan that really wasn't anything we hadn't seen before.
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And I had to look past that, because really, what
happens with Coord Industries in this movie isn't much different
than what we explored with Ironman and the whole dilemma
of making military grade weapons and things that caused destruction
and war. And that's really what we experienced in this
movie because Susan Sarainda's character wants to make this army
of super soldiers, and you have Jenny Cord, who is
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the daughter of the original Blue Beetle, trying to stop her,
because she says, Court Industries is not making weapons anymore,
but they are going to use the scareb to essentially
power all of these super Soldiers and create this entire network.
So what Jenny Cord tries to do is stop Susan
Sarandon by stealing the Scareb. Jimen just happens to be
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in the right place at the right time, because at
the beginning of the movie, after his post college plans
don't really go as planned because he finds out that
his family is going through all these financial troubles. His
dad is having these health issues. He ends up working
at Susan Sarandon's mansion, gets fired from that job, but
then Jenny tells him she can come to Court Industries
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and he will get her a job. Happens to be
there on the day that she decides to steal the scareb.
She gives it to him in a fast food box,
tells him to guard it with his life, but not
to open the box.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And what does he do. He takes it home and
opens it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
The thing just infiltrates his body through his face or
maybe there was butt, and then the entire movie is
at first Hymen and his family trying to get the
blue beetle out of him, and Susan Sarandon's character trying
to retrieve the blue Beetle back so that she can
use it to power her army of super soldiers. But then,
of course you find out that the only way for
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the Blue Beetle to be taken Adaheim is for him
to die, so the mission shifts with ultimately them just
trying to stop Victoria Chord from her mastermind evil plan.
So let's get into what my top five moments of
the movie were, and I'll just rank these one through five.
At number one, I think that first fight scene really
set the tone of this movie, and it's really where
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this movie.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Started to feel different to me.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I feel like that first beginning of the act, like
I said in the spoiler free version, felt a little
bit generic and a little bit I was worried that
it was just going to be a movie that didn't
really have a whole lot to say.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And I think that's.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Because the whole scene of Haim first being taken over
by the Blue Beetle and Kashi taking him on this
kind of fight test to see if he is compatible
and trying out all these things that felt fun and lighthearted,
but it didn't really give me that essence of what
the Blue Beetle was going to become. But that first
fight scene really set the tone, and it had a
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little bit of an edge to it, which I was
surprised by, and I just really love what it showed
about Heima's character that he had no idea what was
going on. He let the suit kind of take control,
and you really saw the power of the suit and
what it was capable of. And you also get into
the moral dilemma of he had a chance to kill
the bad guy, but he decided that he didn't want
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to be a killer, which I feel is something that
a lot of superheroes go through. Batman has an issue
with killing, Spider Man has an issue with killing, Superman
has an issue with killing. So that's nothing completely novel,
but for some reason it really resonated with me in
this moment because he does get to a point where
he can take him out chooses not to. Then the
evil guy comes back and essentially beats up Jimus so
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bad and is about to kill him, but then George
Lopas's character Rudy and Jenny come to the rescue in
a pretty fun way. So that is moment number one,
and number two is the dad dying, And you kind
of knew it was coming because of what they said
about his heart issues. But man, that moment really really
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got me. And I have not cried in a movie ever,
never have cried in a movie. I've gotten close. Whenever
Tony Stark died. I got very close in that moment,
but it was ruined because the lady next to me
decided to get up at that point, and I was like,
you're ruining this moment for me. So whenever Tony Stark
was going to die was probably the closest.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'd got before this. I also got teary.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Eyed whenever Aunt May died in No Way Home, But
this is one that really really got me. And I
think it's because recently, because I'm in my thirties now,
my dad is in his sixties, I've.
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Just been thinking about.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
A lot that I don't know what life is going
to look like when he is not around, when he
or my mom are not and they're not super old,
but you just start to think about it at this
point in life when you see, you know, people around
you start to lose their parents, which is new to
me that I think it's because I've been thinking about
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that so long, and I've been making attempts to go
home more attempts to call my dad more, just knowing
that someday he won't be there to answer my phone call.
And I think it's seeing other people go through that
and knowing that all they want is more time back
that at least I've been able to be conscious of
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that and make things a little bit more manageable when
that time comes, and know that I at least made
the strides, at least made the efforts. And it was
always in my mind to talk to my parents more
and make that time more, because really, all you want
back is time with them. So now in my thirties,
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I've realized that, And maybe that's earlier than some will
have the chance to think about that, but it's because
I've had that in my head for so long now,
of thinking of the thought of just losing my dad
or losing my mom, that in that moment when Jiman
loses his dad, I felt like that's what I was
going to feel like. And the fact that he was
just wrapped up in that big claw, couldn't move out
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of it, couldn't save his dad, and coming after a
pretty heroic moment of him rushing to save his family
taking out all those soldiers but then not being able
to save the thing that meant the most to him.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I lost it.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I just started crying. I wouldn't say it was like
a heavy like eow, but it was just the tears
started coming down my face and they wouldn't stop. And
then it just kind of opened up the floodgates of
me being emotional and not really recouping after that moment.
And that leads me to my number three moment is
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the conversation he had with his dad after he has
that vision of his father, when they're essentially sucking all
of the life out of him, trying to retrieve the
code to the Blue Beetle so they can power their
super soldiers. And in that moment, Jima is unconscious and
he goes into this kind of realm that's this purgatory,
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if you will, and he sees his dad sitting on
this chair that has the plastic lining, which if you've
lived in a house where everybody's concerned about preserving the furniture,
that also struck home with you.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But it's all the.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Candles behind him and him realizing in that moment that
his dad has passed because he didn't know at this
point he was taken to this island. He hadn't seen
his family, and he didn't have that kind of closing
moment that the family did. He did see his dad
have the heart attack and knowing that he wasn't going
to make it because Kanshi told him that he was
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suffering cardiac arrests. But it was in that moment, just
having that closure and knowing that his dad had passed
and now he was there telling him that the reason
for his existence was to be here in that moment
to tell him to keep going, that it's not his
time to go right now. Which this moment also reminded
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me of a similar moment in Black Panther where T'Challa
had essentially the same interaction with his father and then
you see Kashi and Hime essentially become compatible.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
He comes back to life.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And is able to escape and not die in that process.
So that was my number three moment, and number four
was probably the reveal of the Grandma's revolutionary past, which
this movie had a lot of comedic moments, and I
would still say Rudy was my favorite character overall when
it comes to the family, which this family really kind
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of steals the show throughout this entire movie, because you
don't just fall in love with Heima's character, you fall
in love with this entire family.
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And what a great.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Ensemble cast and a great use of all these characters
throughout this movie. But I think the moment that just
really kind of won my theater over, not just the
first time, but the second time, because I took my
mom to go see it, and my mom does not
really like superhero movies. She loves horror movies, comedy movies,
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and classic Mexican movies, but has never really sat down
to watch a single superhero movie. And I was back
home and watch Ahatchie earlier this week. I told her
she would love this movie. Took her to see it,
and she thought she was going to fall asleep at
some point because she didn't think she was going to
be that interested in it. But loved every single aspect
of this movie, from the soundtrack, from the humor, and
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I think what she really loved was the Grandma character,
maybe because she reminded her a little bit of her
mom and her grandma. But I think it was that
moment that you find out that the grandma had this
revolutionary past was one of the best comedic moments, and
then her handling that gun about the entire final battle
scene was great. And it was also in that moment
that I realized that my mom is the type of
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moviegoer that repeats back the funny lines, and it was
just so cool to see her enjoy this movie and
be able to take her to see a movie that
represented us in a way that I felt authentic because
to me, when I went to see it, I felt
that same way. But my mom, being from Mexico and
also loving movies as well, I wondered what her reaction
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was going to be, and she loved it. I think
she ended up really enjoying the fact that there was
so much Spanish throughout this movie really allowed her to
enjoy this movie even more so. I love that scene,
and I love that moment I kind of share with
my mom while watching this movie at number five. It
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would be a combination of that final fight which there
was just so much pent up energy and emotion and
the family just you know, really having it with being
just pushed.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Around throughout this entire movie.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And I think Blue Beatle does have a lot of
commentary on the rich and the poor and gentrification of
how the rich. All they do sometimes is take from
the poor, and they don't want anything to do with
you until they like your property or until there's something
that you can do for them. And you saw that
a lot throughout this entire movie. Another moment that really
resonated with me was Susan Sarandon's character at the beginning
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being very condescending towards Hima and his sister as she
fired them, telling them to andale, Oh, there is nothing
that gets me more than somebody condescendingly using Spanish towards me.
And I think this movie really spoke on that, whether
it was that scene of her dismissing them in a
very condescending tone, or also when Jim goes for that
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job interview and them essentially directing him to where the
deliveries are because they think, oh, this guy could be
here for any other reason than to do a lower
level job. I felt that moment too, and it was
all of those pent up things that the family had
been going through, losing the dad, essentially being pushed around
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this entire movie, and then finally his mom telling him
to use all that pain we're feeling and turn it
into power. And that is exactly what Hima does, and
he takes all that emotion and also the fact that
this evil guy has been telling him this entire time
that your family is your weakness, and Hima tells him, no,
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my family is my strength, and that is what allows
him to unlock the full ability and power of the
Blue Beetle and defeat him almost to the point of
killing him, where Kashi again has to remind him and
it goes full circle that hey, we're not killers, and
you see the past of this guy, and you let
him live. And then he is the one who ends
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up taking out Susan Sarandon because she has been the
one who has made his life a living hill. So
that final fight was great, and then the family just
getting their closure and the grandma saying that now is
the time that we can cry. I want to see
for the most yorad that is what she says. Coming
after earlier when they did not allow themselves to let
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the passing of the dad keep them from fighting and
keep them from moving on, they didn't cry then, but
once the battle was done, once the fight was over,
they finally allowed themselves to cry. They go back home
to see it burn down, but then the entire community
comes together after the funeral to help them build back
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their home. Jenny Cord comes back, and I love that
moment of Rudy getting that new truck and pretending not
to like it, and then of course you get the
final closing scene with Jenny and him finally going in
for that first kiss, which I thought they had a
lot of chemistry throughout this movie. It didn't focus a
whole lot on the love story, which I thought was
a good move.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I think if they end up making.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
A Blue Beetle too, they'll probably explore that a little
bit more, which that leads me to my final point,
will there be a Blue Beetle too? Because we get
that mid credit scene and you hear that message from
Jenny Cord's dad, who was the original Blue Beetle in
this story, that he is still alive, so he is
still out there, A pretty easy setup to making a
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sequel would probably explore.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Them trying to find him figure out where he is.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I could also see them kind of going the ant
Man route, which there are a lot of parallels to
ant Man and Iron Man in this movie, but it
just reminds me more of ant Man, of them having
to go maybe into some kind of quantum realm like
they do to find her dad, and then he comes
back and they have to go defeat some other villain,
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with Hime being the more powerful Blue Beetle, her dad
having the more.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Old school approach being a.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Little bit outdated, and then I could probably see Jenny
becoming kind of a wasp like character of also having
a suit of her own, and it essentially becomes a
three piece trio combined with Heima's family, who has also
shown that they can put up a fight given some tools.
So I think there is another story to be told here.
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I just don't know if we're going to get it,
not only because of the box office performance of Blue Beetle,
which again comes at a time where the actors can't
promote this movie because of the strike, so the studio
put in less money to do promotion on this movie.
Came at a very competitive summer. Not trying to make
excuses for this movie because I wanted to be successful.
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It's just the state of the DCEU, and all of
the last eight releases.
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Have failed to gross four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So that's a pretty harsh five year rut for Warner Brothers,
which isn't all warranted. They've put out some pretty good
and then also great movies in the last five years.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Blue Beetle for me is a top five DCEU movie.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Now, I would put it right behind Man of Steel,
so my top five would still be The Suicides God
from twenty twenty one, Zack Snyder's Justice League from twenty one,
Wonder Woman from twenty seventeen, Man of Steel from twenty thirteen.
At number four. Right in that top five for me
is Blue Beetle. So again, James Gunn is going to
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do an overhaul on DC starting in twenty twenty five
with Superman Legacy, so I don't really feel like Blue
Beetle was a part of the old DCEU that is
wrapping up with Akaman. The character himself, I feel could
easily translate into another DC movie, whatever they decide they're
going to do with it, because I think the character
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means a lot to so many people, and maybe they
don't have to make a direct sequel, but somehow combine
them into another DC property.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I think it would be great. So maybe we don't
get a Blue Beetle too.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But maybe we get him in another project, but it
would be hard not to see this entire family again.
So come on, James gun keep Blue Beetle around. So
that has been my spoiler review of Blue Beetle. Be
back next week with another brand new episode where we
talking about Grand Tarismo, our top five movies of the summer,
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and we'll get into some nostalgiel with a good Burger too.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Trailer.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Hope you have a great rest of your week, a
great Labordig weekend, and until next time, go out and
watch good movies and I will talk to you later.