In Tyson We Trust w/ Cashay Proudfoot

Devyn and Da'Vonne are joined by Cashay Proudfoot this week and they get into everything: the secret move Cinco wanted to make to save Tiffany, the real weakest link in Cashay's partnership with Dom, and that lap dance video you saw on Instagram. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, it's Devin Simone, two time Challenge finalist, Real World,
Brooklyn Night and host of The Challenge Aftermath. Yes, and
I'm Davion Rogers. Now you know me from the Challenge
and also from being America's favorite all star own big Brother.
And this is MTV's official Challenge podcast, Oh Challenge You
Essay Edition And that was another great episode of The

(00:22):
Challenge You Say Day. Can I just say I did
not see them winning. I did not. I didn't even
Not only not only did I not see them winning
at all, but I also was kind of glad at
the time that I wasn't seeing them win because I
don't know. I've just you know, wasn't a Cachet fan initially,

(00:42):
and Tyson kind of comes across like he thinks he
owns the Challenge, So I don't know Tyson to get humbled. Yes,
and then I got humbled because they they started out
last and then they came out first. It also brought
back some memories because I know someone's going to reference
this online, so I have to just call myself out
now before beat them to it. I too was drugged

(01:05):
through water shout out Johnny Riley carrying puzzle pieces in
the challenge, so there is a meme of that somewhere.
So um, I could understand Caschet's plight in that moment,
But girl, I did not see them winning like at all. Wow,
and even with her because as soon as the algorithm
cholse Tyson as her partner, I was like, Oh, it's

(01:26):
it's up. It's up. And then we're seeing the challenge.
I was like, oh, it's down. It's Daniel. She seemed
to me, she seemed more excited, like she seemed excited like,
oh I got Tyson, because I mean, who wouldn't be.
He seemed more like, okay, and he seemed like, why
couldn't I get Angela again? Yes, exactly exactly. He seemed
more like, okay, uh, you know with this, but wow,

(01:48):
And these are my least favorite challenges. I think, like,
I don't like come from a competitor, They're great to watch,
but I the ones that involve like endurance swimming, I don't.
I just I remember times were we had to jump
off a boat in Turkey and like swim and dive
for a raft and stuff like, I just they give
me anxiety. And this one looked I mean a lot
of people seem to be struggling with this one. So crazy.

(02:11):
My last season of the Challenge, the purge that sent
me home, because nobody sent me home on that season.
It was a purge. On that season, I fell I
think we were like forty fifty feet in the air
and I fell into the water. And you know how
with water getting your lungs, you get pneumonia, And that's
exactly what happened to me. So now I have a
fear because I ended up with pneumonia. The doctor was like, yeah,

(02:32):
I'm glad you came in because it was right at
your heart. It was circulating around my heart. So now
I have this like phobia, you know, kind of tea
of why I haven't been back. I'm a little scared.
Oh okay, that's a real tea. And now we understand.
This is what we were talking about last episode about
like the Challenge, the risks, right of like that this
is real life, Like yes, it's a show transition, but
don't let this fool you. These are not cushy competitions.

(02:55):
Davon almost died. I'm glad that I didn't. First season
got hype thermia, girl, I mean I got left on
the back of a bus phones um with the challenge.
Also in Uruguay so a lot. It's a real yes
girl back of the bus story, and I heard that
they tell that story every season to the newcomers. It's
really it's really embarrassing. We'll talk about it later, but

(03:18):
you know, the show is intense, and this episode was
really intense because I feel like we got to see
more of Cashet and a lot of ways, which was
really interesting. And it was also interesting to me Sinko
and AZA's strategy of not saying who they wanted to
go in. Would you have done that? Like, I don't,
I don't. I don't know how I feel about that.

(03:39):
Do you think that's that's the thing Sinko did not
trust her Sinko. So what I would have done, though,
is I would have lied. I probably would have just
pulled a random name out of the sky, or probably
gave a person a hands up, like, look, don't take
it personal. This is about to happen with somebody who's
my friend, Like, don't take a personal eye, right, But
I don't know, like you should have said something, gave
her something or type in something. I mean, I can
understand where he's saying like kind of he didn't feel safe,

(04:01):
but I feel like giving up Ortuen. They just kind
of sat there quietly. So then that left room for
Tyson and Cachet to pick anyone that they wanted and anybody.
She said, who are we looking at? She said every
said everybody exactly exactly that with everybody, Buddy Angela right,
and everybody bloods be clear. It was everybody but Angela. Yeah.

(04:24):
That was super, super intense, and I'm so glad we
got to see that. I'm also glad that we have
Cachet on this week's episode. We got into so much stuff.
I'm not gonna lie. Look, we had Tiffany on a
previous episode, which was fun. If you haven't listened to that, guys,
go back and listen. She was wonderful. I'm so glad
we had Cache because we learn a lot perspective from

(04:44):
this interview, a lot we didn't know. And you know,
they always say there's multiple sides or different perspectives to
any situation, and we really get some inside tea. She
didn't hold back, which we appreciate. Um We also got
confirmation that dum Is does indeed have the personality of
a peanut at least in her experience. So you know,
we just got a lot from this episode. Is it

(05:06):
what you expected? Oh? Oh my goodness, this podcast episode
was amazing. Like, I'm so excited. I'm excited for the
listeners to hear more about her and to hear her
so I just to see her personality, you know what
I'm saying, Just to see who she is. I think
it's super super dope. But before we even jump into
that thing, we want to hear from you, Okay, So
please send us your questions through the comments and on

(05:26):
Apple podcasts and on social media with the hashtag ask
challenge you essay. This is your chance the questions if
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you at say, and maybe we'll use the spiciest, the
juiciest your questions that you want to ask in the
upcome and pick your poison segment. It's up to you.
It is up to you all right now, this commercial

(05:47):
break isn't up to you. But trust me, you're gonna
want to stay here for what is coming next. So
stay right here because we're gonna get into this interview
with Cashet Proud putting next. Yes, Cashe Cashe Cash Shay

(06:09):
a girl. Hey, welcome to the podcast. Okay, I hear
a little trepidation in your voice. I feel like I
see it on your face a little bit. What what
is this nervousness that we're getting I'll be scared boom
oh a lot. And it's weird reliving it, you know,

(06:29):
especially like on Love Island. I didn't have to watch myself,
and I still haven't watched my season. I probably won't ever,
um so, but I'm nosy, so I have to watch
the show. And it's a lot. It's just a lot. Yeah,
um I can. I mean, there's a whole lot of emotion.
Tell me what your initial kind of feelings are right now.
We'll obviously like get into it and tap into some
questions we have for you, but like, you know, what

(06:51):
are you feeling and why when you say it's a lot,
what are the exact emotions can you describe that for
us that you're feeling right now? Yeah? So everything that
I've ever done, I stand tent toes down on it, right,
But there are some things that I do that I'm sot. Like,
you know, I was like, oh that was a little
and this episode was the only episode where I'm just

(07:11):
kind of like fuck, I swear, yeah, yeah, we keep
it really girl period. Okay, because yeah, I think I
love Sarah, and you guys didn't really get to see
how close Sarah and I got. Um, but it really
came down to either saving just Scene and Ben or
Leo and Sarah. And even though I love Sarah, I

(07:34):
was obviously going to say just seen and my love
island people, you know, um, And it just sucks because
we got so close Sarah and I I just feel
really guilty. So that's a big That's actually a really
interesting point because I was watching that and I was
wondering how you manage because we saw you listening to
Sarah kind of like you know, rag on Leo, which,

(07:57):
to be fair, she she kind of did it to herself.
Under standable that she was frustrated, but like, yeah, any
if anybody, if any of the day was in this house,
if I was in that house, we'd probably feel the
same way, you know, when she was talking down about Leo.
No girl wants to be paired with what they may
see as a liability. But I was wondering how you
manage to get Tyson to like get on board, but

(08:18):
now you mentioned that it was either basically Ben or Sarah,
So it sounds like, did Tyson maybe take the lead
and say, hey, look I want to go after Ben
and then you swayed him to Sarah or were there
other options you guys were considering at the onset and
then this was kind of like a last minute game
time thing. So I didn't really have as much of
a say, And I wanted to listen to David because

(08:41):
at the time, like I love Sarah, I love Justine
A Ben. I didn't have a problem with Leo. Fucking
love Leo. He just scuts someone I can't swim, so
I don't want to be in a chalance with him,
but so only other people on the board A listen David.
I'm also I vibe with a Lissa heavy. This is
my issue in the house. I got so close with everyone,
I'm like, wait, fuck, you know, yeah, so dangerous, but

(09:02):
like my social games A one. But it's also like wait,
like you shouldn't be like spelling, you know, I really
getting everyone's life stories in the ass in the game,
but I wanted to listen David. Tyson was not having
that Alyssa at the time, like I was starting to
trust her and she did save Shannon and Sanko, so
I told her I owed her one. But I was
still like, at the end of the day, yes, you

(09:24):
saved my best friend. But if it's between all three, yeah,
I'm gonna throw her in. Tyson said no, so he
had drama. Obviously, Ben did he say why? He did
he say why? No? To listen. I think I can't
really remember, but I think it was just like he
wanted to do something that would help his game, and
I don't think throwing in Alyssa David would help his game.
So with Ben, he heard that, like Ben was talking

(09:47):
like mess about him, so he's like, I want to
get Ben out. I said, well, he's with Justine and
he was like well, and I said, well, so literally
my options were either Justine and Ben or Sarah Leo.
So then the clip of me saying I want Sarah
Leo because obviously I'm like, I'm not going to prove
Island like, I'm not going to do that. We want
our numbers so strong. Um, so that's that was a

(10:11):
clip of me saying that. But yum, okay, so you're
kind of giving him a bone. It seems like, yeah,
because he wanted to get at Ben and he figured
this was a closer way to do that. It sounds
like great, but I think there was a lot of
There's just a lot of stuff I don't really understand
with the Sarah Tyson Ben dynamic. I don't think I
ever will um. But for me, it was just like
and then it was just I felt guilty too, because

(10:33):
I felt like I owed Tyson whatever you want to do,
I'll ride with you, because he did drag my ass
in the water. Yeah, I was a girl. We saw girl,
we saw I saw. But let's keep it real, like
that man was pulling my But you know what, in
this game, I feel like you have to have a
certain sense of selfishness because I feel like other people

(10:53):
are as well. And even what you're saying that Tyson
did what was best for his game, at what point
are you going to I say, you know what, that's
cool for you, but what works for me? And I
feel like you didn't put your foot down a no
not to do something that was going to be beneficial
for your game, because like, what would you have done
that was beneficial for your game was perfectly for my game?
And that's why. Like I was sitting in the in

(11:14):
the room with Sinko on AZA and I was like,
give me a name because I can't just go in
with I was like a listen, David Tyson's like, okay,
who backs you on that. I'm like, I feel like
they would back me, but they weren't saying a name.
And like during that time, like the show, there's a
lot of different arcs, especially with me and Sinko's journey,
we were either really cool we fucking hated each other.

(11:35):
And this was around the time we fucking hated each other.
So you know, it was like there's just so much
you guys didn't kids to see. But in that moment,
so tell us, tell us, yes, tell us yes, girl,
tell us we did me that because how did you
feel seeing him say you were manipulative? By the way, girl? Okay, girl,

(11:57):
we need visuals. Okay, so let me drop and tea.
And this is why I don't like doing podcasts because
I've be chatting, but I'm going to drop a little
bit of tea now when I'm a Sinko's partner. An
episode that Tiffany got thrown in, Sinko wanted to sacrifice
us to go in to save Tiffany. And I said, yo,
and I'm gonna say, I just gotta her game be

(12:17):
gay men. I said, what could she have possibly said
to this man to make him think it's a good
idea for us to get thrown in? And that's why
you see the clip of me saying that man is
easily manipulated by women, because I'm like, if we get
thrown in right now, there's we don't get any money
for getting thrown in. It's not like, because you know,
you go again someone you get their money. There was
no money to be got, right. I said, why would

(12:38):
I like end my journey this it's the second week.
Why would I sacrifice myself and throw myself in? He goes, yeah,
you know, it's just a way to show I said,
you're insane and he goes, okay. He goes, don't tell anyone, Like,
don't tell anyone that I wanted to throw myself in.
It could ruin my game. I said, I won't tell
a soul. I sprint it back to love and I
was like, yo, tell me why. And I fucking told

(12:59):
him because at the time I did not trust Sinko.
You know this is again one of the times we
were just at each other's throats and I and I
did tell the Violet like I was talking abou like Justine,
m Shannon and Kira, and I was like, wait, like
is this a good idea? I should I do it?
Just because, like you know, it would help Senko's game.
That's my thing. I always put other people more for
myself and that was my biggest mistake in the show.

(13:21):
So yeah, So flashback to like this episode, him saying,
you know, if you tell her a name or something,
she'll manipulate you. It's like, no, it's like, I'm going
to do what's good for my game because I would
have thrown myself in. Even when we got up there
we saw like the bike challenge that James and Kayla did.
He looked at me and he was like, I don't know.
I was like, no, imagine we went in and our

(13:42):
journeys were cut short right good week, you know. So
in that sense, he didn't trust me after I told
my girls the people that I trusted in the house,
after I told him what he wanted to do, I
think from there he didn't really trust me. But honestly,
but you couldn't trust his decision making and throw himself in.
I mean, Devin, we wouldn't attrut it that either. Hell, no,

(14:05):
you want me to do what? When he said, I
was not what are you talking about? And he goes, oh,
I guess you're just scared. I said, no, baby, I'm
not scared, but I'm not smart. I'm right, I'm smart.
I'm not dumb. That's why I like, like what it
was just messy. So then I really wanted a name
to like there's the conversation that me and him had.
So that conversation actually had right was had right before

(14:27):
elimination and I was trying to get him to tell
me a name again. I was like, Sinko, I want
to keep you here. I said, obviously if you go
home as best for my game, and he agreed. He's like, yeah,
if you weren't here to be best for my game
as well. But I was like, I want you to
come back, Like the challenge isn't straight like he mentioned that,
like right after we got off Love Island when we
were together, He's like, I want to go in the Challenge,
like I want to be in this franchise, and I

(14:47):
was like, and I want to support you. And even
though we're broken up, even even though I couldn't stand
that man, we're still not friends. I don't care what
he's doing, but I still want the best for him.
I want the best for everyone. That's just why I
am as a person. So I really wanted to do
what was best for him to come back. Plus I
fucking love Azza. I'm like, this girl deserves to be
here as well. But you know, they just would not
give me a name, and it could have changed everything.

(15:08):
And I think I'm not saying that Alissa and David
would have lost, but Leo's a freaking mastermind. And I knew.
I was like, if his puzzles, they're gone. And we
walked and we saw it. I said bye as and
sinko like I just knew it was it was a rap,
just because he's just really good with that kind of stuff.
It was interesting seeing him do such a one eighty,
Like I don't know if you guys agree, day saying

(15:29):
like the fact that he was such a liability in
the main part of the change, you know, in the competition,
the challenge, but that he just killed it on the
elimination was just a complete one eighty in terms of
his skills. Yeah, with Leo. My only issue with Leo,

(15:49):
besides the fact that he can't swim, it's just I know,
you guys see a really silly part of me on
the challenge, but like, I'm very, very competitive, and when
I'm in the moment, then there's nothing funny. Like we
got shipped to do, let's do it. And with Leo,
he's just so silly and he was really really silly
the first part, and then I think like that's when

(16:09):
it clips, Like you guys are gonna see a different
part of Leo from here on out, and you're gonna
love what you see, because I think it just really
clipped for him. He's like shit, like, oh you guys,
don't take me seriously watch this. And it was set
because after that everybody was silent. I'll be part of
with me, oh, like you know, because he just really
showed everyone a different part of him, and I think
he needed that to be honest. So at any point
when this elimination is happening and you are aware that

(16:33):
Sarah and Leo are ultimately going to take it, we
see you saying I'm screwed. They're coming back. They're coming back.
But even when you, like you said, you came out
and you saw that it was a puzzle, when you
knew instantly, you didn't try to have a sidebar with
Tyson like okay, plan B, plan B, abort mission like nothing.
I was trying to abort the mission before we even
saw it. Was before we did right before we came
out and saw everything. I was like, Tyson, plump, don't

(16:54):
feel right. Some don't feel right, And I said, my
gut's never wrong. She let so I said, some don't
feel right. He goes and the whole time he's literally
like I got your back. I got your back, Nothing's
gonna happen, YadA dada, like we got this, like let's
do this for our game. And then I'm just sitting
there like how does this help my game? And that's
the whole time I was thinking, like during the time
where everyone was like chatting to Tyson and nobody's really

(17:15):
talking to me, Like everybody like thought like Tyson had it,
like we have to convince Tyson to do this, Tyson
to do this. So it's like I didn't really have
a say, like I'm telling you, it would have been
a lesson. David and I should have put my foot
down because I did feel a little I don't want
to say manipulated. I feel that like that words getting
thrown around this season. But like it's very easy to

(17:37):
tell what type of booman I am when you meet me.
And it's very easy, Like if you're good at game play,
right and you see someone like me in a game,
you can just see how big my heart is, right,
Like I'm just going to do whatever makes anyone comfortable.
And like if I ever went back on the challenge,
I would one hundred percent change that. But it's just
very easy to get me and be like okay, like

(18:01):
I don't want to do this, but all right, like
I got you know, like that's literally what I did
with Tyson because it never felt right. I always felt
weird about it. I didn't want to do that because
Sarah at the time, like she was in my corner,
or at least I thought she was. Who knows what's
happening behind the scenes, but like, wow, I have a
question for you. So coming into this show, you know,
you come from the villa and you're it's it's a

(18:22):
love show. Now. Don't get me wrong, there is a
sense of competition, but it's not this, you know what
I mean? Yea. And so coming into this show with
all of these these competitors, these I don't dare I
say athletes right, and coming into this show with a
bunch of them, did you ever feel like they underestimated
you or just didn't really give you the respect you
believe you deserved because you came from a love show.

(18:44):
And I bring that up because this season how I
mean this episode where you say that everyone went straight
to Tyson, but also we watched how Dom was when
you were his partner. That was a little hard to
watch too. It felt like he really didn't give you
any respect at all, didn't acknowledge I did not like
that all. You feel like they didn't really care about
your opinion because they felt like, well, this isn't her space,

(19:05):
this isn't her world. Yeah. So my biggest thing in
my life is no matter what I do, where I go,
when I'm talking to I'm always underestimated. And I think
that's like a big reason why I went on the
challenge is because I'm always underestimated and I knew what
I was walking into. Now I'm a very silly girl,
like I'm planning too much all the time. I'm always chatting.

(19:25):
I laugh a lot, I joke around a lot, but
people just don't understand that, like there's a brain in here.
And when I first got on this show, like people
would like have certain conversations that they shouldn't be having
around me, but because they're like, oh, it's cash. So
that helped my gameplay just a lot, because people were
just chatting around me, just chatting, and just no one

(19:46):
takes me seriously. And like I think, like with Dom,
and I'm I don't want to start some shit, but
like I'm gonna just keep it. I'm gonna keep it
in a buck. And I held back from saying this
on Twitter when he was like praising Sinko for our win.
I was like, okay, I just kept quiet. But in
my union with Dom, my partnership with Dom, he was

(20:08):
the weakling. I'm gonna keep it a buck. Like and
this isn't meeting Shady at all, but this is like
I wrote for you, so freaking heavy. I didn't say
one bad thing about you other than the fact that
you're hardheaded and your rude, which is a fact. But
we see that period. So if James and Tasha didn't
lose if they didn't fall. I don't really know exactly
what happened him and I would have lost. I told him,

(20:31):
I was like, I want to run. Can you balance?
He goes, do you see me? Like I'm a man.
I was like, okay, okay, I guess I'll balance, like
I'm a dancer. That's cool. But I was like, I'm
a runner, Like that's like I can run, Like let
me do this. He's like, no, I got it. He
was the slowest runner, so we would have lost because
he had the least amount of letters on the board.
There's a scene where he goes, yeah, we start in

(20:53):
cash a sprinting, like this is a marathon, not a race. No, babe,
it's a race for me because I'm faster than you are.
Everyone else is faster than you are. If I sprint
right now, then I can lap get more pieces. And
then I found out like it doesn't work that way
because you have to wait till all the pieces are
down in the new stack. But my original gameplay was
to just spread, just lap and then like do the
most pieces and then have us build that way to

(21:14):
give him a head start to run against everyone period.
So watching him like slander me every single chance he got.
I was like, Yo, that's fucking crazy to me, Like yeah,
like single is like Sinco and Sarah were my biggest
supporters in that elimination. So the reason why you guys
see me crying, I'm spilling all the fucking to you
right now. But the reasons. But the reason why y'all

(21:36):
see me crying after I said James and Tasha home,
Tasha's like Auntie I never had, Like I fucking love Tasha.
Also I love James too, but it was mainly like
before James left, you whispered in my ear, don't let
them play like your week or something he said to me.
And then during the imagine being an elimination. I don't
know if you guys experienced this, but like everyone is

(21:56):
cheering for the opposite team. Oh yeah, everybody been there.
Everyone Everyone's like, come on, Tosh, let's go James, and
like it's silent, it's given crickets for me and um Dom.
And so during this point of time, like this is
one of the arcs where me and Sinko were getting
along really well, and so Sinko and Sarah they're partnered
up and like Sarah had my back heavy and the

(22:17):
villa are in them, not villa in the com had
and so they were like cheering for for us the
most like it was really just them and like obviously
Shannon too, that's my right or die. But um, everyone
was telling Tash stacks stacks, stack them, and then I
couldn't hear what they were saying. So Sinko and Sarah
were like, stacked the blocks. So I was like, okay,
because I wasn't tall enough, I was like, and then

(22:38):
I started getting my head. I'm like, fuck like and
they're like stack them, so her and I both start
sacking at the same amount of time, so don being
like the only reason why we want is because Sinko
said stack the blocks. I'm like, oh, okay, if I
stacked him, and then what what if I knocked on
the right if I and the main reason he almost
lost is because he wasn't like, I mean good period it.

(23:00):
I'm like, can you just give me my credit? Why
is it so hard for people to say a good job? Cash? Damn?
She did her thing, like why is it so unbelievable?
Like okay, and I know, when like this show comes out,
there can be like cash and Tyson only one. Because
of Tyson, I'm good at fucking puzzles period, Like no
one is ever gonna look at me and be like
she did her thing bo like never, so especially in

(23:21):
this atmosphere, like people look at me, I'm smaller, but
I'm just like it's it's fine. I don't even like
it doesn't even bother me any. It's okay, girl. Let
them there's power and being underestimated what others perceive as
a weakness is your superpower because yeah, let them talk
gameplay around you thinking no big deal, right, but then
show them in the moment when it counts, like what

(23:41):
you can do. And I also say, watching it and
Day can tell me. I'm curious with Day thought, so
watching it, when I saw you accidentally open the wrong lid,
I was like girl. And then when Tyson about lost
his hair, you know, he was freaking out so mad,
and then you guys got there and you won. To
me as a viewer, it was apparent he didn't do
that all in zone because I felt like he wouldn't

(24:01):
have gotten so mad if he was confident that, like
you know what, I crushed puzzles too, So like whatever,
we're one. Let behind like he was freaking out. So
and when you guys got up there, I think you said,
come on, Tyson, like let's go, let's get in the puzzle.
Like not all viewers will get it, but just know there.
I'm sure there are some who will watch that. And no, okay,
you had to have contributed to that because there was
just no way based on his reactions that like he

(24:24):
just solved all of that on his own. So props
to you, Props to you that challenge girl. Girl. We
saw you going up there with the barrels, putting your
hands in the air. I was like, that's right, don't
touch girl. Why it was a raid that girl. As
hard as I could, I said, like that was terrified
because the way Tyson was looking at I mean he said,

(24:45):
I'm fucking dear you. I was like, like there was
no shade like when he was upset. It was I mean, warranted,
like I wasn't mad at all, right, I was like, no,
I fucked up? That was that? That one's on me, sir,
Like I got that, Like I'm not even mad about it,
but I just like that, Like even though he was
kind of frustrated and discouraged, I was like this is

(25:06):
where I'm like, I got me and I love puzzles,
like this is the ship that I do alone when
I'm bored, Like this is my shit. Like I'm like,
I love this kind of stuff that doesn't frustrate me.
I'm very good under pressure, Like that kind of stuff
doesn't cook and be like I'm an actor, like I
do musicals, Like yeah, it's like everything is under Like
my whole life is just a pressure cooker. So like
that kind of stuff doesn't really get to me. So
I'm like, let's do this, and then immediately we're in sync.

(25:28):
And he's kind of tysting's a little aggressive in the game,
but I don't mind that, Like I don't mind like
how you talk to me when we're trying to get
something done, as long as it's not coming from a
disrespectful place. It comes from a place of like let's
let's do this, let's win. So he's trying different things,
I'm like, no, done, not gonna work. Try something else.
Like we were just like so in sync with the
puzzle was perfect, and I think that was everyone's not

(25:49):
everyone other teams like they were trying to do their
own thing together when it's like you really want to
see the picture together. And I think like me and
Tyson worked really well on that, so it's awesome. It
literally is a story. We watched you guys go from
last place to climbing to first place. And that's the
beauty of the puzzle equalizer. I'm such a fan of
equalizers because it doesn't matter if you swim all of

(26:11):
those laps and came in first place, as we saw happened,
and then that puzzles. But hold up, smokey, You're gonna
stop right here and this is where I'm gonna happen.
How did that feel feeling? I guess going from feeling
pretty much defeated to oh wait, we had a chance,
Like how did that feel? Oh? I wish I could
go back to that moment. That was one of my

(26:31):
favorite moments on the show period because it's just like
it's just like kind of like a great life story.
It's like whenever you feel like the underdog, you just
don't give up and you steam ahead, and that's kind
of what that was. And mainly it was just like
a moment where I was like, Okay, I don't even emotional,
but it was like one of those moments where I
was like, no one here believes in me, So what
if I just believed in myself? And if I was

(26:52):
just like Tyson, we're gonna fucking do this, Like I
want to win this because one, I can fucking swim
very well, like I can move in the water, I
can get shit done. But I was like, what if
I just believe in myself and believe in me enough
for the both of us? Yeah, And I think like
that was just like a really empowering moment for me.
I loved that. That was just fun. Did he trust

(27:12):
you to do the puzzle? Like? Is that where you
kind of was like, Okay, you swam, this is my side,
this is my turn. It was more just like he
was just kind of like, you know what, like he
wasn't talking that My biggest issue with domas just he
talked down to me. And I'm a very big personality.
I'm someone you're gonna notice me when I'm around ye,
So don't ever try to make me feel small or

(27:33):
less than like, don't do that, don't Yeah, And so
like with Dom in the challenge, like I was telling him,
I'm like, okay, these are two different ways you can
plug the hole. What do you think it's going to
be best for you? And he was like, worry about yourself.
He goes, I have I have a pool I could do.
Do you know how to stack? I said, period, I'll
worry about myself. And I mean I wish I didn't

(27:53):
because I would have been like plug the hole. But
with Tyson and the puzzle like we authored, and I
would looked at him myself, I'm good at puzzles. Tyson
good at puzzles. And he asked me that when we
first saw the puzzles too, and he goes okay. Not
once was he like no, you're not, or like I'm better.
He was just like he goes okay. Cool. And that's
the thing about Tyson, like exactly like he is. He
really analyzes everyone that he's partnered with, and he likes

(28:14):
to see their strengths and their weaknesses and what they're
weak their weaknesses. He's like, Okay, how can it make
them better? Or how can I make them stronger? And
that's what I really appreciate with him, Like, yeah, he
comes off kind of a dick sometimes because he knows
he's he's that bitch, you know, but he's still the
kind of guy that's going to work with you, and
I love that we got to the puzzle. I was like,
come on, I said, let's do this. He goes okay,
and he let me try stuff. I let him try stuff.

(28:36):
We cut each other off if we're gonna do it.
I just really, really really respect Tyson out of like
almost everyone in the house, Like he is just one
of Him and Ben are just like even though they're
so freaking competitive, they're still so sweet about it. And
they're arrogance, Like they're very arrogant people, but it's like
just they have every rate to be you know. Yeah,
but you also said Tyson is the weirdest man in

(28:59):
the best way. That was a direct quote. He said,
Tyson's the weirdest man the best way. What exactly doesn't
mean by that? Can you give us an example of
how he's weird in a good way? He is just
one of the most interesting men I've ever met. Like
he would have walked around in this like huge velvet road.
I'm like, where are you going? Man? Like why did
you happen? Like what are you doing? Like he was
just so strange in the stories he would tell us,

(29:20):
Like at first me and him like didn't. It's not
that we didn't get along, we just didn't click because
I don't understand the sarcasm, Like it goes right over
my head because I take everything kind of literally. So
I just never understood what he was talking about. So
I was like, you're so weird. And then once I
understood his humor, I was like, oh wait, you're weird,
but you're funny. So yeah, he was an honorary Love
Island Girl, Like nobody knows this, but we had a
handshake with him and everything. Oh my god. I love that.

(29:43):
He's the best. I love that Tyson the Love Island Girl. Yeah,
the way you describe him actually kind of and I
know I'm gonna get some flak for this, but I'm
just going to tell from from our listeners, but kind
of reminds me of Bananas, who is arguably the greatest
one of the Greens, which is he is arrogant, he
is cocky, but honestly, like when we were teamed up
in a final, like we sang songs and I wrote

(30:05):
on his back part of it, but like he was
actually very he was respectful in how he communicated to me, knowing, yeah,
he's going to get more out that way, and he's respectful.
I think if he has respects for you, he shows
it right just how he communicates and talks to his partners,
And I think that's what advantage and gets him far.
Whereas if you don't have that level of skill or
level of emotional intelligence, then you talk down to people.

(30:27):
It doesn't work well for you in the long run anyway,
because now he's like burning bridges to build these bonds.
And also you're no one in the challenge, which is
what's great about this game. Now there's some that are
very close, but no one is a thousand percent the
best at everything, So you know you have to be
mindful of that when you're talking to other people. Speaking
of that, though, what do you feel like coming from

(30:49):
your experience on Love Island? What do you feel that
you brought from that experience to the challenge that was
an advantage? Right? Like? What skill did you learn there
that you felt like set you up for success or
would help you in this challenge house I think besides
social game, because that's just something that we just excel in.
But I think for me, it's finding the fun in

(31:10):
every single situation. And I think like people just don't
understand how many cards were staffed against me walking into
this experience. And this isn't me like victimizing myself because
I'm not a victim at all, but with the situation
where like people you know, talk shit like she's talking
about her X again. Okay, we broke up six weeks
before filming, Like I walked like this man, Like I
thought I was going to marry this man, Like we

(31:32):
were talking about we were looking at apartments like we
I thought that was my soulmate. So imagine going through
that and then like living with that person. You know,
it's really very and tough, but I mean it was.
It was just a really uncomfortable situation because like I
agreed with the breakup, but there was just so much
that we didn't talk about. It was just so uncomfortable.

(31:54):
I didn't want to be there. I wanted to leave.
The third day, I asked production to leave because did
you not do it, like when you got the call
and you knew he was coming on, did you have
any thoughts about turning down the offer because he was
going to be there? Or so we got casted together
while we were together. So then I still was just

(32:14):
kind of like hmm. So I was still kind of like,
I mean, I was still like, I don't really know
if I want to do it. So flash forward we
broke up, and then it's like a couple of weeks
before like the show, and I was still like, I
don't know if I'm gonna do it. So my Love
Island girls that were going on the show, I talked
to them, my friends, my family, and they're like, you
need to go on the show for yourself. My biggest

(32:36):
thing with my support system is they're like, are you
going to let a man stop your bag? And I
was like right, So I had to go on. I
was like I gotta go right. Um, well, I'm glad
you're sharing your story here too, because I think context
that was missing. Obviously we knew you guys Weregether. Obviously
knew we knew you guys broke up, But to realize
that you got the call for this show, you entered
into this challenge a couple with the mindset as a

(32:57):
team right as a couple, and then and you know,
it's not that long of a turnaround from you know,
when you get the call to when you actually start
filming and you guys go and start this whole journey,
so to then break up during that time, Yeah, that
provides a whole other level of context there, Like anybody
wouldn't want to spend time with their ex so close

(33:18):
off of a breakup, especially when you were looking at
moving in together and all these other things like that.
It totally makes sense. Yeah, so let me ask you this.
At any point, was was Sinko in any way inside
of the house or right before you came in? Was
he leading you on in any kind of way? I
knew this was going to be a messy question. What
do you mean leading you on in any kind of

(33:38):
way meaning I don't know, maybe still flirting with you,
maybe still leaving a door open to possibility of working
things out because I'm trying to piece together the whole. Okay,
so let's get into it, the whole you and Tiffany
and Sinko triangle. Right, Why, Yeah, let's get into it,
because oh, I don't need to cut you off. No,

(34:00):
you are totally fine. This is just period, Okay, So
let's just let's just kick it off from the airport.
So I am not here to slander anybody, but tiff
like really fucking hurt my feelings and I'm someone if
you hurt my feelings, I'm going to tell you you
hurt my feelings, Like what are you doing? Tiff and
I So her fans were like, you have to meet Cash.

(34:23):
My supporters were like, you have to meet Tiff. She's
the you from Big Brother. I was like, period looks.
So I'm gonna let's go. If you play see the game.
I was excited to meet her. We met at the airport,
like the very first day, we went to the bathroom
together this like security guard walked into the bathroom and
we're like showing each other out, like what we're gonna
wear for walking in? We vibed heavy. Okay, So at
the airport, like her and Single already like kind of
really flirty. I heard rumors that they were together or

(34:46):
they like hooked up. I did not give a literal fuck,
Like this was my thing. The door was never opened
for me and Single to work things out because it
would never work with us, which is two different people
on what I want in a relationship and what I
what I see as respect in disrespect is different than
what he thinks is disrespect. So it's just like it
would never work because I constantly felt disrespected, and he's like,

(35:07):
I'm not doing anything. It's just it just would never
work out. Our values are just different. So I just
didn't care. I'm like, I hope he finds happiness. I
don't care who that's with. So I didn't care. I
was excited to meet her. So the second day of
the show, Tiffany was in the bathroom. I walk into
the bathroom. I was like, hey, girl, like, I know
we were key kan and then I didn't talk to
you for twenty four hours. I just needed a second.

(35:29):
I said, listen, I don't care what's going on with
you and Sinko. I don't care if you guys are together.
I don't care if he's your best friend. I don't
care if you paid that man. I want to get
to know you. But my biggest concern is like kind
of separating my journey in Sinko's journey. Obviously the way
the shows were trade, our journeys are one. Yeah, not
my dumb ass thinking I get separated, but whatever, So

(35:49):
you tried. I tried hard, y'all. So she was like, girl, like, yes,
like him and are close, but like, it's not like
that with us. I said, maybe I truly don't care,
but thank you for saying that, Like you didn't need
to want to get to know you. We were chalming
it up like then we were just like chilling. We've
played games together. We talked, I want to get my books,
and so I got my books done now, but during
the show, I did it yet. So she was like

(36:11):
talking to a good journey, like we were keyk in,
Like I thought we were close, and then I heard
from someone. There was just a lot going, Oh, I don't.
I don't want to be messy who you're Nah, it's fine,
who does it start with? And then what's the next letter?
And then like I can't, I can't. I really don't
want to cash. You've already getten be so transparent and

(36:34):
so open. This is not writing for you too. We
didn't already see answer, but you might as well go
and talk. Okay. So I was living my life right.
I thought me and Tiffany were really good friends. And
then I'm hanging out and Alyssa's trying to work with
the Love Island Girls and Alyssa goes yeah, like and
I was like, um, I said something, because everyone's talking

(36:55):
about who should go in and Tiffany's saying was brought
up by other people around the house because just wasn't
very nice. She didn't come off as nice Tiffany. In
her mind, she's just being laid back and chilling, but
it came off like she just didn't funk with us
like the girls, Like some of the girls, she just
didn't really fuck with It came off like people just didn't.
She just rub people the wrong way. And I was like,

(37:17):
that's not a homegirl. Like and then Alissa goes, wait,
you're her biggest target. I said, wait me. They said yeah.
I was like what And I'm hearing that from multiple
people in the house like oh yeah, she's gonna get
you out. I was like, wait what. And then I'm
hanging out at night, So the scene before you see
Sinko Carrie Tiffany in the bedroom. Right before that, I'm

(37:38):
having a conversation with Shannon Desi and they're like, girl, like,
just be careful with Tiffany. I'm like, what do you mean,
Like that's my homegirl, Like what and they were like no, yeah,
Like and then Desi tells me that Tiffany approached her
and was like, let's fuck with Cache's mental let's fuck
with her like, let's get her out of the house,
let's fun with her mental and DESI was like, I
don't want to do that. So she basically asked DESSI

(37:59):
to like where Lingerie. This is what I heard to
where Lingerie and like play these little games with Sinko
to get to me. What people don't realize is that
Sino is very flirty and I'm forty two. That man
was spirting with people while we were dating. He would
flirt with I don't care, like, that's not going to
hurt me, you know, Like I was like, oh, you
got you got it? Like no. So then after I

(38:20):
was told that, then Sinko brings in he's carrying Tiffany.
There's a scene of me saying, that's weird, not because
my ex boyfriend's carrying another woman, it's because this is
your let's play with her mental like pretending to yeah,
I'm sorry. I don't think her inkle was hurt. Maybe
it had a little twins, but I'm like, baby, this
was like her In my opinion, what it looked like

(38:41):
at the time is for playing games, and I'm just like,
why are we doing this? And then for me, the
reason why I was so hurt is Like, I don't
fuck with mental health, Like, that's not something I play around.
Was obviously, play your games, do what you gotta do,
like play whatever gameplay you want to play, But fucking
with someone's mental health, Like if that was your whole thing,
that's fucked. They got I'm a stronger woman than a
lot of people give me credit for. Because that's not

(39:03):
enough to break me flirting with ex boyfriend, Baby, that's
not enough. And then the scene of her being like
and then she's like on podcasts and interviews and saying
that I was intimidated and jealous for a baby, I
was never like, no offense, but like, I'm not worried
about you in that way, especially with my ex, Like,
I'm not worried about you, like and I'm not, And
I mean that in the best possible way, because I

(39:23):
generally liked her, Like, I'm not the type of girl
that's gonna be jealous is someone I consider a friend
or someone that I'm trying to get to know, what
is there to be jealous about? Like I love you, like,
I like you, I think you're beautiful. So when you
heard that in the house, because it definitely did come
and you know, we've had her on the podcast and
it definitely is a viewer. It did come across and jealousy,
you guys being jealousy and being intimidated. So it's so

(39:44):
interesting hearing your your side and this is this is
why I'm glad you spoke, like, this is why we
say don't hold back because the things people don't know,
and Claire will tell your story, people will write it
for you. But that said, when you when you heard
that this was happening, especially because you thought she was
your friend, you know or whatever that you guys were cool,
did you go up to her and talk to her

(40:06):
about it or had you like confronted that issue rather
than just taking what you heard from DESI and then
rolling with that. Right, Honestly, I did it, and yeah
I could have, but at that point it was already
too far gone because then she was like just started
like giving me weird looks, and then she would get
mad if anybody would talk to Kyland, and then it
just got so messy and like at this point, I'm

(40:26):
gonna it was best for my game. Yeah, My truth
is that if anybody was intimidated by anybody, it's tip
of me, like I think my history would sinko made
her uncomfortable. I'm like, baby, I can't do anything with
the fact that I dated this man, like right, like
we like one time we were sitting and somebody had
mentioned something and she was like, damn, you guys must
have really been in love. I'm like, yeah, we were,

(40:47):
and she like gave me a dirty look. I'm like,
are you mad that I had history with him? Like
it was just weird? It was weird vibes man, And
I just think and I hear now hearing her side,
like she thought that I was coming after her when
I never was, So maybe this was her Yeah, do
you think people said stuff to her because the same
way things were told to you, that shifted their whole perspective, right,
and how you handle things. Do you think there's a

(41:09):
chance people were saying things to her on the flip
side that because maybe this is just a theory. I
wouldn't in the house, so I don't know, but roll
with me before maybe there were other people who were
intimidated by you both, and so the idea of helping
pit you tube against each other to essentially kind of
take each other out was the bigger goal rather than

(41:30):
just one person coming for the other. And again I
wasn't there, but you know, she seemed genuinely hurt by
things that you didn't. You're genuinely hurt. I think she didn't.
It sounds like there was a bunch of miscommunications. MS me.
She's like, let's talk, okay. She's like, I'm hearing some stuff.
I want to clear some stuff up. We have a
two hour conversation and she clears things stuff and she
was like, were you intimidated by my friendship with sinc?

(41:52):
I said, baby, no, my whole issue with you. As
soon as I heard let's fuck with her mental, I
was done with you because I just don't. I don't
play that. Like my whole thing is like play whatever
gi me want. As soon as this blow the bell,
I'm out, Like I don't fuck with that. And so
we had a to our conversation. She was like, well,
I thought you were doing this, and I said, cool,
We cleared it up. We apologize, like I said, I'm
sorry if I made you feel type of way. She apologized,
and then we were chilled, facetiming all the time, texting

(42:15):
all the time talking. At the time I met her son,
like you know she was talking to like guy she
would call me about like we were like Kekyan. So
then I go to and then I go to La
and like her and Kylin have a history and were
we all a bunch of us are at brunch. I
can't parallel park, so I ubered there. So then in
period I can't, So then Kylan's like, okay, well, so

(42:37):
then we all went bowling afterwards, and then Kylin's like, okay,
like I'll drive you cool. I get in this car.
We post I love all kind of all kinds of music,
and we put on like a country song and Kaylan
doesn't really listen to country, and I was like, oh,
can you're right up pending on? So I posted on
my story. Since that day she stopped working with me.
She like calls calls me, calls Kylin. She's just kind
of like, oh, like, if you're gonna hang out with Kylin,

(42:58):
I'm ana call Sinko. I'm like, what are we? Like,
what are we doing? Said that she actually said yes,
and there's witnesses. Everybody was there. And then I look
I get off the phone with her and I look
at her and I said, yo, handle your ship. And
I got pissed, and he was like, you can't be
mad at me, like I didn't do anything, and I
was like, no, true, let me calm down, But this
is what I mean about I said, no, no facts, facts,
I'll sit down. But this is what I mean about

(43:19):
the below the belt stuff, Like people still to this
day think that sink goes my trigger, and now it's
triggering me that, Like people can constantly mention this man's
name that is my ex boyfriend. I do not give
a fuck what that man is doing. And I don't
mean that in a shady way. He's living his life.
I'm living mine. We are no longer together. Why are
you mentioning Max to me? I said, baby, you were
on him in the house, You're on home him before

(43:39):
the house. I don't care what you're doing with that man.
I said. If you are upset that I'm hanging out
with your ex or what, I don't know what their
story is, that's not my problem. And if you feel
that way, voice it to me. Because at the end
of the day we were home girls. I thought, So,
this is what I mean by the whole her being
intimidated by woman because I'm like, what are you doing?
And I just thought so upset, and since that day
I have uttered a word to her. We even talked

(44:01):
to each other. And then she's an interview slamming me,
and I'm like, maybe it made her feel some type
of way just seeing him in a car with another girl.
I don't know what it is, but if I'm your
homegirl at the end of the day, why are you
coming at me like that? To me, it sounds like
both of you are hurt, not by these men, but
by the actions of each other. Two women and each other.

(44:21):
And that's what I keep saying. I don't gonna fuck
with these men. I don't care about this dude. I
don't care. She's so jealous. She's like, I said, I'm
gonna suck about these guys, and I was like, I
was like, I can't. I don't know how much clearer
I can make that. And I would never make my
issues with Zinko like about another woman. I would never
do that. I don't fuck with Zinco because I'll funk

(44:43):
with him. There's nothing to do with guy, you know
what I mean? Like, and if you hurt my feelings,
it's not because the other woman. It's his actions. And
I keep saying that it's never about the other girl,
like I don't care who talks to him, and I
didn't care then, I don't care now, but it's just
all about respect for me. But yeah, that's my situation
with It's just weird, and I think that's why I
always keep receipts because I noticed that she's never said

(45:05):
that's not true. We were never cooked at it out
like I have. It's just not true like we were
like we got closed at least I thought we did.
So it just really hurt my feelings, like her actions,
because I'm just like, there's no reason for that, like girl,
like come on. So that's what I wanted to ask
you when you were talking and you said you guys
had a conversation over the phone and you brought up
to her about, you know, her saying, you know, let's
mess with Cachet's mental Did she confirm or deny that.

(45:28):
She said, I didn't say it like that. I said
let's play with her or something like that. I said,
maybe it's the same thing. Yeah, she was like, she's like,
I didn't mean it like that. I said, no matter
how you meant it, like you literally said, like, but
I wouldn't even been hurt by that if like two
days before that, I was like crying and I wanted

(45:48):
to leave. This was like, yeah, this was a round.
This a week before she said let's talk with her mental,
I was crying on the bed with Shannon. Shannon's my
right hand, that's my best friend. So I was having
a hard day. I was like crying with Shannon. Tiff
came in and sees us crying, sits down, hugs me,
kisses me on the forehead. She said, Babe, if you're
having a hard time, then get him out, like da dada, like,
don't let no man run it, like hyping me up, dadda.

(46:10):
And the next thing you know, the next week, you're saying,
let's pup with her mental with Zinco, that's that face
ship I don't funk with. Yeah, that's why that's that's
the entirety of me saying that's weird. It wasn't because
she was sporting with Sinko, so she made up that
narrative when she knows I'd not give a fuck. Do
you feel like with Sinko and Tiffany out of the
house that you are now able to be more focused

(46:32):
in the game yeah, when I tell you it was
the sexiest experiences for me. Like watching him leave, it
was hard because obviously I want I want the best
for him, and that's why, like in the episode where
he was just like she's manipulative, Dada, I was like,
everything that I did and I hate myself for it
was to protect him, you know what I mean, not everything,
but in a sense like I was like I was

(46:53):
always looking out for that man, always, Like I could
have walked into the house and been the crazy except
people are trying to portray me to be. People are like, well,
haven't sink I could have been like fuck him, don't
trust him that I didn't say nothing. I was just like,
it's no period um. And so with that whole thing,
like watching him leave, like it was sad because I
know how much she wanted it, and I wanted to
help him in anything that I could. But selfishly, that's

(47:15):
when I started thinking for myself, I'm like, it's better
for my game. It just was like, was it actually
better because we saw the race? Oh she was hot,
at which Sarah looked up. I mean, I I sink
leaving was better for Sarah staying. My god, she I

(47:40):
am concerned on a bunch of levels that we don't
us to get into. But the vengeance on her face? Lord,
was it really as intense as when we saw it
on the show? Or was it more intense? Was it was?
What was it like in person? It was more intense.
It gets crazy, and I think with Sarah, I still
fuck with her heavy and we're still close. But it

(48:03):
took a manager to get there. Did you guys take
a bus ride? Did you guys? Because I know and
the challenges I've done, we would always ride back COVID,
but we would take a bus ride to the arenas?
All right? Were you guys taking like a bus ride
or shuttle to get to Okay? So then yes, at
any point where their conversations had like how when the
cameras weren't rolling, did she go up and say anything

(48:24):
to Tyson? Was she fueling? This is something I probably
shouldn't say. But after the elimination, you know how when
you walk out and you have to wait for a
second and then you go on the bus, that's where
shit went down. Okay, So what happened? Me? Leo? You
yelling yelling at each other? Were like even though it
was Tyson I'm not going to say it was all

(48:46):
him because I'm his partner, but at the end of
the day, I did not want that to happen. You guys,
I went along with it, and that's my fault. But like,
this is the issue with being everybody's homie and being
like your friends and everybody. It's like, how could you
do that? Cash? You were close with me? Like you
were close, like I can't say too much, like we'll
have to chet no, like we have like like juicy.

(49:06):
So another thing, did you at all give Sarah and
Leo a heads up? Like, because it sounds like she
was really mad at you because she was genuinely blindsided.
So what happened there? Yeah, so she was blindsided? So
this is the thing like right before eliminate, you know how,
like you have to do the walk out. So before
we did the walkout, I walked with the Teessima said,
who are we putting in? I know it. I still
didn't know because he was like, love you to talk

(49:27):
to people because I still wanted to listen. David, He's like,
I'll see, I'll talk to people. Did I walk up
to him? I'm all dressed for the final for the elimination.
I said, who are we doing? Who are we doing
in He goes, we're doing it. I was like, okay, cool.
I like, I'm gonna go tell Sarah. He goes, no,
He goes, you can't, you can't, you can't. I was like, why,
it's like, it's gonna blow up the house. And he goes,
we can't have that. He goes, we can't. He goes,

(49:49):
you don't understand. She's gonna tell Ben. Her and Ben
are going to freak out. It's gonna blow up the house.
Like I'm telling you how it was done. It's just
not my character, Like I am a heads up tipe bed,
like I don't want the same thing, like girls completely
flipped the house upside down and it was never the
same because of that one move. Girl, I cannot wait.

(50:09):
Wait until you're ready for rivals period. If you do
do another challenge, are you going to take swimming lessons beforehand?
By the way, I took swimming lessons before this one,
but brood good, don't come for me, don't for me?
And I also to swim more so, someone unexpected helped me.

(50:33):
They told me something that made swimming click for me. Oh,
I tell you should I tell you? Yes, tell me,
TJ Oh, I'm challenged. TJ's like, hash do this and
once you said, I was literally like it just made
so much because I didn't understand what my arms were
supposed to be doing. So he was like, you need
a scoop and paul I was a scoop and Paulo.
It was the craziest experience in my life because it

(50:54):
just made sense. Like TJ has these little moments. You
know what, TJ, we love you love. He has such
a good heart. I love to J and that means
he really liked you if and speaking of TJ, he
is like the ultimate challenge legend. Yeah, but what challenge
legends would you love to see on Love Island? Big
t Oh? Yes, put she would be so good. Yeah,

(51:20):
I love it. I feel like, yeah, there's even like bananas,
Like I feel like it'd be amazing to work to
watch him to deal with two girls fighting over him.
Watch No, that's like I mean like in this situation
where it's like love because it's different in on like
the Challenge watching those girls fight, but like in a
scenario where they're creating the perfect atmosphere for you to

(51:42):
fall in love. Will we see him fall I feel
like Love Island to do something like that where it's
like it all stars like season and it's not just
all star Love Island people, but it's people just from
like different shows and you just throw them in a
house and say, hey, fall up. I would love it
because there so good for men in there. Don't cache

(52:08):
back in there and let me host it. There we go.
That would I didn't. I love it didn't work out.
How gonna just meet people like a regular way? It's
don't even love is That's the issue. It's just being
a public relationship. Yeah, Like I like more relationships would
work out if the if the media and like the

(52:28):
fans weren't so obsessed with us. Like when single, when
I were dating, we were getting care packages like spa
dates like whatever. People thought we were fighting, they would
send us like a spaw package, like like oh, like
a twenty four hours of luxury. I said, you think
Fastball fixed? Like it was. It was insane, like people
like loved us and it was so much pressure, bro,

(52:49):
Like it's just too much. It was too much. I'm
gonna just date a regular degular ass dude and just
like keep her crying regularular? What do you do regular?
But the regular? Abu you work? Yeah, let's do regular,
maybe not the regular, just the regular. So before we
get you a man, we are going to get you
a question in a little segment we like to call

(53:12):
pick your poison. Yeah. The way that we do this
is that we have three questions. Um, one of them
is my question, one of them is thought up by
the Lovely Dayvon, and one of them is from Instagram.
Now they could be one of them could be super easy,
like you know, what is your favorite food? And then
one of them could be really uh messy and you

(53:35):
want which one? Oh? And yes, look at you lose it.
You would on this podcast, and we don't. I love
how loose people get and get comfortable. Yes, let's do it. Okay, Day,
I'm gonna kick it over to you. Since why don't
you ask this? She's messy? Yeah, she's a messy. One

(53:59):
of this. Lock it in with Daven, We lock it in. Yes,
yes you did, and I so glad. I am so glad.
You like here, girl, Yes girl, Jesus for Jesus, I
sho for Kyland's birthday. We saw you, Yes, we saw

(54:30):
you upload that birthday video. Tworking that thing, shaking that back.
We saw it, Okay, So I want to know what
was the deal with the video? Is there something going
on between you and Kyland? And was damn holding behind
that video pettiness towards Tiffany. They saying, yo, yes, say

(54:53):
this because people coming from me. I'm gonna us this question. Okay.
It was we were there for a listen's birthday. I
was like, I planned this for three weeks. I said,
I'm gonna get this girl stripper like in the movies
where like someone orders a pizza and it's like a stripper.
So I looked at I literally typed in mail strippers
in Miami and this third one, I got the man.

(55:13):
I'm gonna send you guys the pictures. I don't know
if you guys saw like what the man was supposed
to look like and what he actually looked like. We
gott the fuck, you know, Like the man's supposed to
be so sexy. It was probably like twenty seven, like
light eyes, dark hair, sexy as hell. The man who
came was like forty four, like I had like a
heavy accent, creepy eyes, got too quote like it was

(55:36):
the most uncomfortable experience in my life. And I was
supposed to go to the Pretty Little Thing Miami Swim
Week show and I was like, I'd rather see the
strippers if you look the fuck gun and everyone's steering
yas cash, You're like, you did your thing. No. The
man came in and I was immediately like I opened
the door and I was like, can I help you?
He goes on the stripper, I said. So he comes
in and I was like, you don't look like your
picture and everyone started laughing and like cash Cash. I

(55:57):
was like, you don't look like who I pay for
and he was like, oh, look, what do you mean?
I show him the picture. Okay, I'm giving details. I
don't matter. Okay, cool. So he comes out, he like
start he does the robot and I was like, wait
so then since I literally so I get up just
like try to make it like a joke. I pushed
the stripper down and I said, let me show you
how it's done, and I like give him this like

(56:18):
sexy nobody film that though. I like, I give him
like like lappets and everyone's like that was hot period.
I said, you can go now, I said, not be
doing your job better. So he leaves. So then I
don't know who turned the music back on. I think
it was d X. He goes all right, cash okay
because everyone said comes through. So we all start stripping
for a listen to make her field comes or we
dance on a lista and then it's Kylin's birthday as well.

(56:39):
It's a combined birthday party. Listen Kylin. So then like
everyone throws Kyla down with their cashet, give Kyler one,
give Kylin one, so I give him a dance. D
X gives him a dance. We all start dancing around
both of them like it was just innocent fun. I
literally said. As soon as we got there, I said, guys,
there's obviously dropping going on a tip and I please
don't post anything if I'm Me and Kyler made sure
not to take pictures standing next to each other, like

(57:00):
we just didn't want the drama. So Brent from I
think he's from Big Brother Brent Um he filmed the video.
I was like, you'll take that down. It was up
for maybe six minutes and then a fan recorded it.
But no, it wasn't petty, No, it wasn't messy. It
was just innocent, freaking fun. It did look kind of petty,
and I kind of liked that it looked a little

(57:21):
petty for a second when I was drunk, and then
I was like no, no, no, but no immediately told
him to let it. But because it's like, at the
end of the day, I'm not that's just not who
I am. I'm not gonna fight fire with fire and
be petty. You know. It just wasn't. Also, Brent posted it,
I thought, you post girl. No, that's what I like. No,
if I would have posted, I would have taged here
like come on, I'm a real bitch. Like no, I no.

(57:45):
I literally told Brett, I'm like Brett to lead it,
like that's that's not the vibe like it was never
it's no, like I'm not gonna dangle a man in
front of no like that was for a game. That's
for a game. That's not how I play. Um. At
the end of the day, I'm gonna handle things like
a woman. I was just having fun, like I never
do things in spite of other people. I do it
to have a good time. And I gave him a
dance yell did and honestly, like he deserved it. I

(58:06):
paid for a stripper that made everyone uncomfortable, like you
can have some of these funds all y'all can I
gave every dance for everyone. It was just supposed to
be fun, and I hate that it was made into
something that it wasn't. I just not like that, you know. So,
I mean you didn't answer part two, which party there
anything anything between you and Kyland anything? No? I mean

(58:27):
me and Kylie did get really really close because there
was a moment where he kind of talked down to
me and I was like, why do you talk to
me like that. He like opened up to me about like,
you know, him being on the spectrum and just autism,
and we just got like really close because of that.
And then there was one night I got drunk, you know,
the first and oh me mad, I got the fund
and nothing happened. We were just like we were just

(58:48):
like flirting and we were just like as like as
like yeah baby, you know, and then I went to
bed and it was it like that was like that
was it, but now nothing like that. I was busy
yea take home Hi right now? They touching it when
that comes out, because it's gonna be so fucking messy.
People are like, oh I knew she was a lot

(59:09):
like we were d lirting and then I mean, but
we get to be clear, Cash, we can see your
kid because I'm watching the video right now of the
lap dance and the chemistry even if all of y'all
were dancing around the chemistry in that brief moment though,
Cash is like palpable, like you can see, guys, I
love the good that night there was good. Put a

(59:34):
block Lembarbaie can't get up. I feel like people, you know,
it's just like I'm just I just have a good time.
But I don't think it's no. It wasn't felicious. We
were just having a good time. He's handsome, but you know,
I'm just having a good time. Oh my goodness. I
know we're about to wrap this thing, but I have
to say, like I am a super reality TV person,

(59:56):
not just because I've been on reality TV. I just
love it all together. And I want to let you
know that when your season of Love Island came out
and you sat down girl on that first day and
you took that wig off, my heart was there. I
loved you from that moment on moving forward. You know
what I'm saying, So just thank you for being unapologetically you.
I love it. I love it, I love it. I

(01:00:16):
love it. Cash. Where can the people find you and
your next lap dance video channels? You guys can find
me on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok. I love it
so much. Thank you for opening up and being here, girl,
it was so fun. We're glad you guys. So I'm

(01:00:39):
glad you came. Girl. This gave us, well me, let
me speak for myself. This gave me an opportunity to
get to see your personality and get to see you
for you. You know what I'm saying. And I just like,
I love when I get to see reality TV. And
I know it's reality TV, so it's supposed to be
real air quotes, right, But when you really get to
see that person, that person in human form, it's totally different.
And so I'm just glad that you agree showed us you.

(01:01:01):
Of course, thank god, I totally But you were nervous.
You were nervous when you when we started. I can
see it all over your face. I would definitely nervous.
I get so nervous because I just be chatting and
then people like twist by words and I'm like, I
didn't need it like that because I'm just someone who
just bought his chat. I'm gonna share my story and
I just hope it's not messy. Like but I don't

(01:01:23):
know if it gets messy from this interview, I'm like,
it's my truth. And if y'all go, hey, you're not
here either way. So exactly, life is messy a little bit.
But thank you for showing your side because it just
shows that even we watched the show, and even of
all the things we see a the contestants, the competitors
are real people and too, there's so much we don't
get to see. So like the fact that you and
TIF had a conversation afterwards, like there's just so much

(01:01:45):
context that's missing, um, and it just opens up because
I'm not gonna lie. And when we had tiff On,
I definitely was like Cachet as a hater he out
hearing your story, it's like, oh there's more to it. Yeah, yeah,
I totally gets And I'm so glad to have you
st Thank you so much for letting me know here.

(01:02:05):
Yes girl, anytime, you just won't be booking the strippers right,
So thank you very much and can't wait to start
the group. Yes, you're We're excited to see the rest
of your journey on the Challenge US. Yes, don't have me,
don't have me with its pupil parfect wow day. We

(01:02:35):
got a lot, a lot for Cashet, so grateful for
her stopping by and dropping some gyms telling her story.
I have a whole new perspective on her. Can't wait
for our group chat because we've got a lot to share.
But seeking of sharing, where can everyone find you on
social question? Yes, as the mayor of Twitterville, USA, you

(01:02:55):
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You can also find me on Instagram Davon Diane Underscore,
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(01:03:17):
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