Speculation: The Musical w/ Kim Webster

Tori and Aneesa are joined by Challenge Producer, Kim Webster. They discuss her time working with Rob Lowe on The West Wing, the difference between "ice" and "hard ice" on set, and dealing with clowns.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everyone, It's Tori and Anissa And this week
on the podcast, we have one of my favorite producers,
Kim Webster. Yes, she called us from a secret, undisclosed
location to talk about working with clowns and her time
acting on the West Wing and hard Ice, which will
be explained. So stay tuned because this is about to

(00:20):
get good. All right, everybody, Today we have a very
special guest. This is somebody on production that you wish
graced your screens because she is the red hot actress

(00:44):
from the West Wing. She's been a producer on All Stars,
Double Agents, I mean more seasons than I think I've
been on. She is absolutely incredible, one of the best
people to have on the show. Welcome Kim Webster. The
crowd goes well, nobody goes wild, and we're going wild.
People see you, they would go wild. Thanks, ladies. One

(01:06):
of my favorite little things that I have to throw
it in there about Webby is so every season we
call her Webby. Every season, every challenger gets two people
to call on their phone list, and Kyle always makes
a joke about how he's gonna put Webster on his
phone list even though she's on the cast with us.
She's currently on the season filming. So that's how that

(01:28):
goes to show how much love people have for what
has he ever called you? Though it hasn't gone through?
If he has, I know he's asked multiple multiple times
on my day off if he can make a call
to me. I would block the number and decline and
then die and then crawl to your death around the corner.

(01:49):
If you did get through, Yeah, I would, I would.
Someone would be in trouble. Someone would have to be
I mean, I was just gonna say I love Kyle,
but no to love hate relations chip. He loves me
and I hate him. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, happy that
you even are talking about him. We're just gonna send

(02:09):
him this little clip from the podcast just to make
his day. He would be thrilled. You know what's funny
is you know how you guys sometimes leave each other
notes at the end when you guys are eliminated. He
left me a note once. He didn't leave any of
you guys a note, of course. That note, what did
it say? It wasn't lyrics to a sappy song. It said,

(02:30):
um that he loved me and that he would see
me at the hotel he's so ridiculous. I hate him. Yeah,
it was hilarious. His girlfriend, his griendt Yeah, yeah, but
it's not out to Vicky. Yes, I love Vicky. It's
crazy because Kyle is just that person. It's just so

(02:52):
outlandish and so ridiculous. But that's just him, Like he
has no intentions of going to the to the hotel.
But I think it's fun money to add that in. Yes, exactly, Yes,
it cracked me up. And I think he talked about
me in his exit interview too. All the outs. I
need all of that. That's like gold. If they could

(03:13):
just compile all of the shit that doesn't make it
on that's just like inappropriate or has nothing to do
with the show. Seriously, the America has no idea. I wish,
I wish that we had the ability to show them.
I know, I know, well, for anybody who doesn't know
exactly what you do, we obviously know really well. Kyle

(03:36):
probably knows the best just because he probably has a
shrine of you. But for anybody who doesn't have a
shrine of you, Webster, can you tell us what you do? Um?
It's funny because sometimes I feel like you guys don't
know what I do because everyone's always like, can you
give me a diet coke? Um. I am a field
producer on the show. This is actually I'm currently filming

(03:59):
my twelfth reason in a row. In a row, I
am tired, no brakes, and a field producer is basically
following story. So I am basically tracking all the story
that happens in the house and I'm directing a camera crew,
so I'm following you guys around. I'm writing down everything

(04:20):
that you say and that you do, and then I
have to write a college paper at the end of
the night and send it to our bosses about what
happened on our shift. So I have homework every night
after a twelve hour day. It's a lot. I wish
you would have been here back in the day because
they were handwritten, like director's notes, and they'd be like, so,

(04:41):
what happened yesterday, and Nathan, I'm like, okay, give me
the pen. Oh I did hear about that? I did
hear about it. I mean, come on, it's just I
meet it with one time. But it was funny, but like, yeah,
you guys used to really have to do it manually.
I almost feel like it's harder it's harder to do
it on your phone. Are you're doing it well, I'm
like with two fingers, you know, like America can't see

(05:04):
this right now, but I have like two fingers because
I'm not like a fast typer, and so it's pretty ridiculous.
Um yeah, but yeah, having to I said to Justin Booth,
who if you guys have had on? I said, did
you have to like then write it on a typewriter
when you got back? And it was like, excuse me.
They may have been max back then, they could have
been black and white. But you also are at the

(05:27):
challenges too and deliminations, so you're gravilatory from Are you
listening to our whispers? Oh? Yes, Anissa, That's why I'm
always yelling, Anissa. I can hear you all the time.
He loves to talk. I know. It's I mean, not
even that. There's so many things that I see where
I'm like, I know exactly what's about to happen. Yeah,

(05:48):
I guess, yes, your speculation the musical over there, Yeah,
speculation the musical. Yeah wait, I'm actually gonna do it
if I ever do a show again. Can't. That's Hilary
is because it's so true I know. I know what
it's like to be up on a riser with Anissa
pulling up to elimination, seeing a structure and then having
her just her mind. I mean, she's a thinker, so

(06:09):
she's just off to the races and can't contain the
information in her brain. I tell you, I'm not telling everybody.
I mean, well, well, well Webster, you mentioned ice. Maybe
for anybody listening, I think that would be an interesting
thing to bring up. Would you explain what ice is? Yes.
Ice is something that we call for when we don't

(06:30):
want you guys or the challengers to speak, because typically
it's when we're getting shots of you looking at TJ,
and it's shots that we can use. It's also that
if maybe we're not recording, well, yell hard ice, which
means totally zipp it because we don't want to lose
the story of what's happening. And it's I have a

(06:52):
shirt that's like hard ice and it says nope like
in hard ice letters like I'm always pointing at a
nice because it's something that we're being yelled at to
yell at you guys, and I have the loudest voice,
so I'm always the one like shut up, yeah, which
I always feel so bad, bad, and later I'm like, sorry, sorry,

(07:15):
but we know you guys need to get that. I mean,
especially like on the buses. We used to film all
the time and now that that's become kind of a
safety issue. Yep. Now that's why I think there's so
much ice on the bus. Yeah, because that's where we
chatted up. We just got done a nine hour challenge.
We'd like to chalk shit now, yeah, and start to
strategize before we get exactly and everyone can hear us exactly.

(07:38):
It's a it's a problem, but it's such a safety
issue to shoot on the bus. Um, it's just so
dangerous for everybody involved. So if we are screaming for
ice on the bus, that's why. Yeah, I feel like
you're telling us again so we know, yes, I am
reminding you right now. It feels like, I mean, yes,
we we're friends at this point, and I've made you

(08:01):
laugh a lot. I think with a little bit of
soft ice or what's known as water well ice is
when you could talk, like you could talk about movies
or some non story stuff. Hard ices when you have
to totally exhibit Yeah. I get it though, because like,
there's only so many mic people, there's only so many

(08:22):
producers on there to be able to follow a story.
It's like, if everyone's talking, you're gonna miss something and
it's gonna be a key detail that couldn't wrap in
the show later and then that's gonna fall on you.
So I totally get it, like if I was. It's
absolutely like being with a bunch. And I'm not calling
us kindergarteners, but like you know, in a sense, we
can we can dip down to that level. We can
get there if we're acting. Where are you talking about?

(08:44):
There are people, there are people you know and don't
wouldn't you rather get the credit for the move? Like,
let's film it so you guys can get the credit
for the move that you're making. Some people want to
be sneaky. Don't make sense. It doesn't make sense when
shit just happens and you're like, well, where'd that from? Oh,
we did that on the bus, and then you guys
say you did it on the bus, and then we

(09:05):
all get in trouble and it's like, yeah, there should
just be go pros on the bus everywhere. Oh yeah, well,
I mean we've definitely asked for that. Yeah, but what's
I'll go ahead and you go what's okay? Okay, you
go here, I'll go. I'll tell you what a typical
days like on the Challenge for a field producer. Okay um?

(09:25):
Was that where we were going with? Yeah, okay um?
Basically like from the time you roll out of bed
any times, okay um. I usually get up a few
hours before my shift because I've got to get the
brain started before I have to deal with all you people.
I mean before I have to deal with people in general.
I have to take a lot of coffee. I have

(09:47):
to read all the notes from last night, from the
day before, which takes forever, and just get mentally prepared
for whatever because you never know what. Like I just
got anxiety thinking about it. You have to brace yourself.
And it depends on what shift you're on, Like if
you're on the night shift, it's anxiety all the time. Yeah.

(10:10):
So then after reading notes, I meet with my crew,
We get our gear, we go to the house and
then we just start usually directing cameras and following the
story if it's a normal house reality day, or maybe
we go straight to the challenge and film there forever
and then go back to the house. But it's typically

(10:32):
a twelve hour shoot day and then I have several
hours of notes after. Now I feel like you've left
something out there because you show up done. Cute little
bandana for those that don't know, cute little bun legging
stock Martin's little fanny pack situation, a shirt that says

(10:53):
something like how long does that take you? Because there
you have to finesse yourselves somewhere in there, like, um, well, yes,
I do shower and get ready for work, which I
know sometimes you guys don't have the luxury of doing.
But yeah, yeah, that's part of my process of waking up. Um,

(11:14):
it takes me a long time. I'm not the I'm
not twenty something anymore, and I really need my brain
to click in. So um and as a former actor,
you know, I'm there's cameras. I'm just gonna be camera ready,
just God forbid something. Oh yeah, I know they do
slip in sometimes, yeah, yes, And I have been on

(11:35):
the show before. Um, and it's usually when I'm looking
like hell, and so I'm just gonna be I'll never
get ready. I've never seen you look bad one day, No,
definitely not. But I am. I am curious. We talk
about like how early you start your day before us,
because you're the one like either waking us up or
you're the one staying later. So do you start the

(11:55):
season before us? Do you like get there earlier only
like a day or two, which kind of stinks, you know,
like I would like some time to like ease into this,
but it's like, you know, you get off the plane,
they kick in the back and it's like, hey, wow,
yeah it's with COVID. It's been a little bit different.
We've had a little bit more time to ease into

(12:17):
it because of quarantines and stuff. But yeah, typically it's
only been like the day before we go see the house,
we see you know, the control room, and you know,
get our bearings, but you're thrown into the mix super fast. Yeah.
You mentioned being an actor too, and I wonder, like,
because you have this experience of already being on a set,

(12:41):
now you're behind the scenes of a set, is there
any like adaptation that you've brought from acting into producing
any comfortability? Yes, for sure. I mean I've been on
sets my entire professional career, you know, I feel like
I am more a little bit more sympathetic with you guys,

(13:03):
because I've been there, I've been on screen. I know
all the crap that comes with it, the anxiety. Obviously
mine was different because I came from scripted, but it's
still kind of the same. The pressure is still the
same um to show up. But I but one thing
I do not have sympathy for with you guys is

(13:25):
Mike's I used to have to wear a hot Mike
pack in between my thighs with a pencil skirt on
and the antenna facing up not a path. It's like
a not an annual doing an annual exam. A well,

(13:51):
I love Rablow. Oh what was that? Like everything? It
was two things. Not to get started on the West
Wing and would you ever go back to like that
kind of scripted show I got started on the West Wing.
I'll try to give you like the condensed version because
this could take a minute. But I was a one

(14:13):
day stand in on the pilot for The West Wing,
and Aaron Sorkin, who was the creator of the show,
saw something in me and they kept inviting me back
to stand in on the pilot, and then when the
series got picked up, they asked me back, and then
one day he needed us. There was a cast read through,

(14:33):
and Elizabeth Moss, who is on Handmaid's Tail now, couldn't
be there that day. It was her first day on
the show, and they asked me to read her part
in the read through. And it was a cold read.
I mean I literally opened the script and I had
to go and I'm again, you know, across the room
from all these huge stars. At this time, these people

(14:57):
were phenomenal actors. And the first line was to Martin Sheen,
who I don't know if everybody will know, but they
probably know, Charlie Sheen is. It's his dad. And the
first line was, Dad, you never put enough human in
the chili. My twenty year old brain read, Dad, you
never put enough come in the chili. Oh but I didn't.

(15:19):
But I didn't say it out loud, my brain. Someone
was looking out for me, And I said because Aaron
Sorkin told me years later if I had said that,
my career would have never Wow, I would have sent
you in a different direction. Yeah. I would have been
on porn Hub. Yeah, yeah, have been the West wing

(15:40):
of porn Hub. Oh my god. So after after that
read through, every single actor on that joke came up
to me and was like, who the hell are you?
Why are you just to stand in? That was phenomenal
and uh, Sorkin created a character for me based on that.
That's amazing. That's amazing. What you also have the look?

(16:02):
Your voice is unique, Like if I were just to
hear you, I'd be like, oh, that's Webby you know? Yeah, yeah,
my voice. Um And to answer part by a lot
of people lately have been uh, let's say, bullying me
into going back to acting, and uh and maybe time

(16:24):
what he Maybe time. I haven't fully decided. But after
I wrap up my current gig, I think I'm gonna
get head shots done and we'll see what happens. I'm
going course light shoot, yeah, of course, Like can somebody
hook me up? I just I know you could have

(16:45):
been their new girl. I mean I do ads for them.
If they could just see be the physical representation of
what I was talking about, be perfect. I mean, I've
been drinking it since I was fifteen. I am so
loyal to them and I just don't even know I exist. Well,

(17:10):
we talked about you getting back in front of the
camera as an actor. Now this is kind of out
there as a question. Would you ever or have you
ever considered doing a season of The Challenge. Well, you know,
back when I was on the West Wing, that wasn't
ever even an option because we have an advanced to this,
you know. Nowadays, you know, everybody anything is on, you know,

(17:35):
I mean shit, especially with like Champs versus Stars and stuff. Yeah,
I've been watching the show since it first came out.
The Challenge amazing and I know, yeah, I've seen almost
every single season. Yeah. But when I was like in college,
everyone was like, you should be on Real World or
something like that. So yeah, I always thought that I

(17:56):
would be good at getting drunk and then compete. Yeah,
just like you guys right, it's a it's a skill.
And I have been a real badass. You guys know
I'm a badass. Yeah, I would have been a real badass.
And uh, it's funny. When I was an actor and
I was on the West Wing, I did so many
charity events, you know, with Original Challengers and Eric Neese

(18:19):
and I hosted a ship ton of events. And I
used to hang out with Trichelle and Katie Doyle and
Adam Larson back in the day, and so it's just
really kind of funny how this how I ended up
working on this show and then with like all stars,
seeing people I used to know back in the day,
and I'm like, this is wild. Yeah it is. I

(18:42):
mean I think that it would be interesting, but also
at the same time, it's like you see it from
the other side. It's really glorified. But it is really
strenuous on the spirit in the mind. I'm sure, even
from a production standpoint, like you said, you're tired. Yeah, yeah,
production just sounds like no sleep ever, no sleep like
sometimes like three hours a night for days on end.

(19:04):
And you know you you guys live in an asylum. Yeah,
thank you. You know it'sn't Yeah, i'll see an asylum. Yeah,
he'll see. The bunker was insane, insane asylum. Yeah. It
always smelled like farts and there was no sunshine. I
had a dream that I was in the bunker last night.
So that's how, you know, that's how we're really connected. See,

(19:24):
I didn't even know ye that dream. Yeah, I'm sorry
you went through that. It's all right, we woke up. Yeah.
I don't think people get how mentally strenuous it is
on you guys. Yeah, they see you guys snap, but
they don't see the countless hours of stress and you
guys have nothing to do. Yeah, you know, and you

(19:47):
know how exhausting it is listening to you guys all
the time. Really, I'm sure. I'm sure you are. Yeah,
it's it's a to myself. I'm sure you've caught people
just oh yeah, oh hundred, did I do this again? Yeah?
Why did I say? Yes? And why is why are

(20:08):
all of josh shit in my drawer? The child? Yes?
Oh yeah, conversations. It's it's a lot more mentally strenuous,
I think than you guys get get credit for, um,
thank you? Yeah no. And I'm an EmPATH, so all
of your energy I feel. Yeah, And it's it's a

(20:32):
lot on our end too, because I'm absorbing everything. And
I'm like Jesus Christ, I need to like sage myself
or something. And I don't even in what sage does.
But it's good and if you let us keep it,
we could all just taking all of our things. I
do have a question, um, who are your favorite challengers

(20:52):
to work with? And NISA's waving at me. I was
not people who are just Tori sending you cash at
right now? So I'll look at that Benmo. You know,
I do have favorites. It's like a parent, you know,

(21:14):
they say they don't have favorites. Bullshit, Every parent I
feel like has favorites. They're ever going to tell you that.
But yes, we have favorites. But I think for me,
at least, it's like, who's gonna make my life easier,
who entertains me, Who's not bothering me? Um? I think
you guys know me so well because we spend so

(21:35):
much time together in the house. Um, you know, I'm
on the floor with you guys all the time. I
think you guys know who gets on my damn nerves
and who doesn't. Yeah, I'm not I'm not saying this
because you guys are in front of me. You guys
are so easy to work with and it makes it
super enjoyable. Um, but there are people that drive me insane. Yeah,

(22:00):
and clowns. I almost wore my clown shit T shirt today,
but I didn't. It's it's so exhausting. There's nothing I
can't stand more than a clown. Yeah, because we do
still have a schedule to keep, you know, and it's like, yeah,

(22:20):
it's wild and you gotta cut the you gotta cut
the crew at some point. We could be there for
twenty five hours, but the crew they cannot. They must
be cut. Not me because I don't get overtime, but yes,
like camera and audio they have that heavy answer. I
think we should start getting overtime when the challenge is
nine hours long? How long do we sit in that
bus in Um, we're in Iceland during the truck thing,

(22:44):
oh all day where everybody got hurt. I mean we
were there till seven. I feel like the shoulder tory
kicks up to hurt anybody. It was raining that day. Yeah,
it was a bad day. And Sky when I were
just singing wop outside that thing, just try to keep warm.
Sky and I were doing cardon. I forgot you guys

(23:05):
are probably outside. Yes, we're outside, and I was fencing
with Big Tea on the bus. Was funny. That was
so funny. I mean we had a good time. We
had to pass the time. But yeah, it's yeah, it's
I you know, TV is all about hurry up and wait.
Um as an actor that we had the same kind
of problems. So you know, I sympathize with you guys

(23:27):
for that because I've been on the receiving end. Of that. Um,
it's just stuff happens, and it's out of everyone's control.
No one's trying to screw with you. It's just there's
there are issues. Sometimes it's so cold, like the camera's
freeze up, you know, like we're Sometimes it's too hot
and the cameras shut down, or it's so wild things happened. Yeah,

(23:50):
because a lot of think, a lot of cast members
or I guess newer ones, suspect that there's some other force,
you know, trying to ruin everything. And I'm to be honest,
they want us to compete at our best. You don't
want to us to compete while we're lethargic and pissed
off and whatever else. So I think worst case scenario,
like with the helicopter. We were in Iceland, right, Yeah,

(24:11):
we were in there in wet suits for six hours. Yeah,
and we didn't know what was going on. But safety
is the first concern, not can we can we piss
you guys off? I mean the girls did great. We
just sat there just sweating like in our little seal suits.
Clam chowder, clap chowder, I hate you, brou clam chowder.

(24:31):
Sorry so gross. All right, we're gonna keep it moving.
That's discussing speaking about the fact that I needs almost
forgot she was in Iceland. It's like we were in Iceland, right, Yeah,
we were. And obviously Webister, Webbister has been on so
many challenges. Webbister, I'm curious, what has your favorite season
of the Challenge been. I would have to say All
Stars one, what was my favorite? Yeah? I know, Wow,

(24:56):
don't tell anybody on the Regular Challenge that they will
have gonna hear it. Well, yeah, they're gonna hear it.
And I and let me say it again period. You
think I care? No, No, I mean I actually loved
um Iceland as well, even though I was wearing five
pairs of pants today. Um. I had a great time

(25:17):
on that season two. But I think All Stars one
was so great because it felt like such a throwback
to when I first watched the show and the music
and how it all and it was only a three
week shoot. Yeah, it was an insane, intense shoot, but
it was it just had it had a different air
about it. It was an intense and backstabby ish and

(25:40):
so I didn't have to take on all that stress
that's in the house, like if Josh Martinez is running
around him and he used my clown shit line in
the episode against Devin and it made it to air
and he never gave me credit. Damn, your ghost writer,

(26:03):
Webster is Josh's ghostwriter, just none with this clown ship.
We're like, yeah, web we said that. I afterward he
was like, do you like that? Web that was for you? Yeah?
Because I called him out, I was like, that's my line.
You better give me credit. Yeah, right, Well, maybe you
should wear a black T shirt next season if you

(26:24):
if we do another one that says, hey, that was
my line, or credit me an interview. You know, Um,
I have a shirt that says missed me with that
clown shit. Yeah. I almost wore it. Today's clazing. That's amazing.
We don't have any clown ship for you, just just
straight up a cute little conversation with our girl. Yeah.
I love that. Just clam chowder baby. But okay, now listen,

(26:46):
I am curious. Is it different working life? I'm sorry,
we're done. We're done, We're done. Is it different working
with I can't get it. I can't get it out.
All right, let's say reset professionals, Sight and Skittles. Oh
I want Skittles. Yeah, sprightan Skittles, Nerds rope, I'm damaged

(27:06):
for life. Oh you're good. Everything's fine, Spright and Skittles, Okay.
Is it different working with the All Stars cast versus
the regular Flagship cast? Yes, a thousand percent. Like yes,
here's what I feel like. The differences. Oh, this is
gonna get me in trouble. Um. I think that the

(27:28):
nostalgia with the All Stars cast and then really just
going there to have a good time really shows through. Yes,
they want to compete. We saw that in All Stars too, um,
and maybe you'll see that in All Stars three. But
I feel like some of the younger people that are

(27:49):
coming in now are doing stuff for the cameras, and
to me, it reeks of like I don't I hate
when people aren't authentic. It's just like a pet peeve
of mine. And as a fan and a viewer of
the show, I feel like I can see that and

(28:11):
it's disappointing and I just feel like it kind of
takes away from the challenge and what I fell in
love with a show for. Right, So I'm probably gonna
get in trouble for that. But the funny part about
it is and this is true. Clownshit. You think these
professionals who are producers that are asking these questions aren't
going to know that you're faking this, like you guys

(28:35):
see through it. Yeah, I mean I think that they
have to ask about those questions just because you never
know what's going to make the edit and how it will.
But yeah, to me, I just it just bothers me.
It bothers my soul because this show it has been

(28:56):
on since what nineteen ninety nine, it started nine ninety eight,
Like there's just this authenticity that that is why I
used to tune in all the time, like, and it's
a soap opera on top of it, because you guys
all have these histories and I want to see where
your history is now and how it's evolving and how

(29:17):
you're still competing yet you know, you're still getting wasted
the night before smoking cigarettes, which and can still compete
at a high level. Um and now just it just
feels like people are doing it for likes and yeah
on you know on social media sometimes and just it
just it just bothers me. I get it, I get it. Well,

(29:40):
I'm sorry that things bother you. I think it happens
on the SHL, but I am from New Jersey. Everything bothers.
I see. We didn't try state area here exactly. Oh yeah, okay, sorry,
So is there a particular decision? We only have a
few questions left, but I do want to know this

(30:02):
one because I do think it would be beautiful to
hear the answer to this. Is there a particular decision
you've made while producing that you are most proud of?
You know, I was thinking about this. You know, we
have to keep this level of professionalism between there's a
line between cast and crew that we can't cross. But

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because I am with you guys so often, I am
the face that you see and you tell your problems too,
and I'm absorbing, absorbing that, and it's you know, I
feel like I've talked a lot of people off of
the ledge and just by being there and being a

(30:44):
sounding board, so you guys can go back in there
and get your heads back in the game. Because it
is tough. Yeah, yeah, but I know that it can
be really tough on you guys too, because it's like when, yeah,
when we don't know who to talk to, you are
who we talk to. Yeah, And that in any capacity

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in which we need to talk. Whether it be from
a place of anger and it shouldn't be that and
I don't condone that, but whether it be from a
place of anger or straight sadness, it's like it's coming
to you. Yeah, it's like it's like verbal vomit onto us.
And you know, like I would wish I could just
like hug you guys if something, but we can, and

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so I just have to be kind of a sounding
board and do what I can on my end to
escalate that so that you know, you guys feel heard
because I know, I know you guys go through a
lot more than yeah. See yeah, and it's like we
don't really I mean, it's nice to have people you

(31:52):
trust on the show, which is a rarity I think,
but you know, I've been blessed, Hi, Tori, I've been blessed.
But I also you know, like if I do have
an issue, it's nice to know that, like we trust
you guys. There is that like almost a doctor patient confidentiality. Yeah,
that that happens where you know you have this person

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as your best interests at heart, but they also are
kind of unbiased in that moment and have to be
like give you like the most sound advice they can
without showing favoritism, and really, I mean, you have to
do so many different things, but I appreciate it because
it's like when I got into my interview, I'm like, oh,
thank God, Yeah, I get to talk my shit. Yeah,

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you know, and then go back feeling feeling lighter. Yeah.
And I feel like you guys, I feel like the
cast in general really respects and trust me, and you know,
the feeling is mutual. And so I try to be
there for you guys as much as I can and
do whatever I can because you guys all know, you
guys can ask people a hundred times for things, but

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you know if you ask me, it'll get done within
like five minutes. And so I feel like that's why
a lot of people come to me with even with
like the diet, coke requests or whatever it is, get
it done. Yeah. Yeah. So um yeah, I mean opening

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up myself to you guys on a on a level
where I can take all your heavy try to take
your heavy burdens and and get you back into that
house and ready to compete and still get your money.
You know, you do such a great job of it,
you really do. I mean, we absolutely have you. Every
time we see you on a show, we're like, yes,

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you know, I mean that's my experience. I know it
needs to feel the same way, and Kyle, yes, I do.
Any people that I feel like that about you, I
feel I feel it from you guys, and I feel
like the smiles light up when you guys see me.
It's just like, you know, I'm that familiar face for
you guys, and I'm happy to be that for you.
It's like home, like you know when you go away,
like this is really comfortable place that can be really stressful,

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and you just all you need is that one or
two people that are like, Okay, I feel home, Like
I feel centered and that feels great. If they were
to switch up everybody, like all of the producers, I
don't know what I would do. Yeah. Yeah, Like if
there's like a high turnover, you know, and it's a
new face every time, that would be super stressful. I

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feel like a lot of people would shut down. Yeah. Yeah,
So it's nice that you keep coming back. I know
I see that it's a lot a lot heavier and
a bigger job than people. Yeah. I think people think
you just come show up. Look cute you write a
couple notes and then you go back back to the
hotel bar and then go to sleep. Oh hell no,
I'm like crying in the shower every other night, like

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what what life choices have I made to get me
to this? Oh? I get it, I get it. God,
I feel so bad. I'm never I'm gonna be on Ice.
I'm just I'm gonna show up as an Ice Cuba. Yeah.
I love that. I seemed season sidelines and Ice. Yes,

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nice tie back. Yeah, well, Webster, thank you so much
for taking some time out of your busy day and
coming to talk to us. It's always a pleasure. We
love seeing you, especially if you're in a weird location
we don't know about. Yeah, secret secret stuff. You know
how hard it was just to map out, like the
time differences and stuff. I had a whole panic attack

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like an hour ago, saying, oh my god, I missed
the call. And then I was like, oh, no, it's
is it dark in there for is it night? I
can't tell you or early morning? I can't tell you.
I signed an NDA. I don't even tell my parents
where I'm going. I love that. Oh she's mysteria. I
am the lady of the night. It looks like over there,

(35:49):
oh night. No, I'm not a hooker. No, I meant
just a person sitting like a lady sitting at nighttime.
I mean like working on a corner. I just feel
like that phrase could lady of the Native. Well, Webster,
We'll let you get back to doing whatever you're doing
and where wherever you are. Thank you again for coming
on the show. It's always a pleasure, and I hope

(36:09):
then we get to see you soon in the future. Yes, ladies,
love you so much. Well, folks out there, hopefully you
can tell how much we love Kim Webster and how

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much of an impact she has had on our challenge experience.
So that was a great interview. I would love to
have her back sometime. Yeah, she gave us all the
words shout out to the Webster dictionary. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, she's incredible. She is something special. Yeah,
I love her and I look forward to hopefully seeing

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her soon. If not, I understand everybody needs to take
a little break from the lake. Anisa, where can we
follow you so well, I'm not not in the lake,
but you can follow me on Instagram. Anissa MTV. That's
a n e s a MTV Tori. Where can we
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me at Tori Underscore. Deal. Yeah, and you know even

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