May 10, 2022 • 44 mins
The conversation with Wild N’ Out Executive Producer Nile Evans continues and gets personal as B. Simone and Justina Valentine put him in the hot seat. Nile shares advice on how he balances his career and family life, why people need to overcome fear of failure, how to manifest finding a man, and more. Plus, he spills his all-time favorite Wild N’ Out cast members.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the women. While in our podcast, you gotta
be girl. Body, it's your girl, y'all, go pretty what's up?
Yo's back girl, Justina be with Pretty D and D somebody.
You body get your show, ladies, and tonight we're gonna
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have the women a while and casts all the cars. Y'all,
we are back. It is the second part of this
bomb ass interview with our producer. Now Evans, y'all. Okay,
So y'all know we only do audio, so I had
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to turn off my air condition and I am hot
as hell, but I am here with my girl, Justina Valentine, Justina,
I'm so hot. We gotta get into this interview so
I can turn my airback. Well, girl, it's getting hot
in here. It's get getting the steam here because we
got now and you got to high ropot system out.
But we're gonna get into this now. We are back
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to you. We are so excited to talk more. And
what now Evans, y'all, yes, I mean just hearing all
these stories from now, hearing about how he started. Um,
it's a really cool thing because you know now seeing
us from little seeds and you know he raised us
into what we are today. So it's cool to hear
how he got started, how he met Nick, and just
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how he balances his whole life between being a producer,
a family man and and all that and just spotting talent,
because I feel like Nile has seen every single person
that's been on the whole the beginning. Yeah, being able
to spot talent, you know, it's it's that's his one
of his greatest talents. I think it's being able to
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spot talent who hasn't and who doesn't exactly. So now
that now's back in the building, be I think we
we just got to really ask him everything we want
to get too, because I know last week we didn't
quite have enough time. But this week we gotta put him,
we gotta put him in the hot seat. Leta ask
him some tough questions. So let's get down and dirty.
So now on a personal tip, um, just being a
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father and a husband influence how your work and you know,
professional relationships. Just being able to balance both worlds because
you're a great father, great husband and a great coach.
So like, how do you balance it all? I think
I think, you know, we we only do whiling out people.
You know, people think that we're spending the whole year
door whiling out like we're keeping all the time. Because
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we have so many episodes. They don't know we do
ten in a day. They don't know. I'm just kidding,
so they don't understand. Like I'm on this show for
maybe a month, you know, so I have time to
to to spend all my family and I have time
to spend with my girls, my son, my wife and
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you know your family is so beautiful by the way, Yes,
have not at your girls. Yeah, yeah on Instagram. Your wife. Yeah.
And your wife is the best man so sweet, she's
so sweet, She's fun. I love her. I lover her.
I got her from Costco a few years ago. And
best purchase I've ever made. You have to doing what
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you do, Like your wife is so down for you
and what you do. And you can just tell you
gotta have a rider with you. And you know, being
a being a dad has really being a dad honestly,
being a dad before being a husband, um was probably
better for me because what I learned from what I
learned how to life is like I had to learn
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how to raise this the son, and I had to
learn who I needed to be for him, and some
of those things are the same things that you have
to be for your your wife, and you have to
be a father not for her, but not just to her.
But you know, in a sense you have to. Like
when a father gives a gives his daughter away, he's
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giving him away to another father. And if you don't
know how to be a father, it's it's hard to
you know, to be a man. And I had to
learn how to be a man for myself. I think
it was better. It was a better situation for me
to understand, like, Okay, I have to lead the same
way I lead with my son as I do with
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you with my wife, and so, uh, you know, I
think that it was it was a little non traditional,
but I think that you know, that's that was what
it took. And you know, balancing balancing your career and
and being a dad is tough. You know, you might
miss a few games sometimes and there are things that
you know, but you try to make up for it
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by going, hey, look we're gonna be able to go
on this vacation. Yeah, yeah, I do take some nice vacase.
I see all the little picks and oh yeah, we
get out there and it now Instagram and he gonna
have a cigar in his hand and he's gonna grow
show as on his story like this for me, them them,
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them little subliminals, I'll be like, damn, he making me
think today. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying
to get everybody to think. And when I learned something,
I want everyone else to learn it too. So I'm
always trying to push and motivate people to be better
because I want somebody to push and motivate me to
be better. When I read stuff and I see things,
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I go, man, this is this is what I need
to be doing. I need to I need I need
to hear this. You're never going to stop learning. I'm
every season I probably read a new book about coaching
or something motivational so that I can bring for the
next season, because I can't expect you guys to get
better if I'm not getting better. If you're so you know,
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I gotta do the work too. And I really I
take it seriously because it's it's this is a baby
and a brand that Nick Burr and I helped deliver,
and you know, we're really you know, it's a precious thing.
It's a thing that you're you know, it's it's a child,
you know what I mean, and you don't want people
to damage it. You want you want the best for it,
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and you don't want you know, you definitely want nobody
to suck it up. So if anybody's gonna sucking up,
it's gonna be Nick, you know what I mean. It's like,
you know, if you want to suck it up, that's fine,
you know what I mean, it's your kid, bro. You know,
we all just have to deal with it. But I'm
not gonna I'm not not on my watch. I'm not
gonna let nobody else suck it up for it. So
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you know that's that's part of what I try to manage.
And you know, we just try to build this brand
to be you know, my my roommate made the logo,
you know what I mean, like that dial and now
he's like he is he still getting paid for that
when he doesn't get paid, he like did like you know,
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from that, he did a lot of work, like he
did some like NAS album cover stuff. Yeah, you don't
live far from me. He's yeah good, He's definitely good,
you know. So you know it's like when you watch
something grow up it's it's it's a dope thing. And
then when you know, for me to watch you guys
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grow up, it's even doper because it's like I'm watching
my kids. Just I remember, yeah, I remember geting you both.
You know what I mean. It's like it's like my
adopted you know what I mean. It's like, and now
I see you guys all growing up and get money
and doing your thing, and it's just, you know, I
just go, it's just you don't understand it. It almost
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bring me to tears when I see some of you
guys online or on a TV show, because I go,
I go, I remember seeing you when you didn't have
that confidence. Remember you were just starting, and now now
you're getting money, and I just go, I love to
see it because it's just it's watching your kids grow up,
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you know, you remembering than discussing, you know. Yeah, And
that brings me to my next question, who's your favorite?
Who's my favorite? Oh? Yeah, they want your top five?
Remember stop five? But you know, of all time, so
I ain't gotta be in there time all time. Yeah,
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I do all you could do all time. And then currently, okay,
I'm gonna do of all time and then currently and
this is this is bad um because I shouldn't choose
like this. Okay, so all time are you in the
hot seat? Now I'm in the hot seat. I'm in
the hot seat. Open your favorite black girl with fingers
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with the ship of all time. I'm gonna probably go
I'm gonna go Cat Williams, I'm gonna go Mikey day
Taren kill him. I'm gonna go untraditional Gene Hang. If
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you ever saw the first, very first pilot episode Gene
Hong was the he had a moment against spanking where
he says, yeah, I'm Asian, like it's a disease, but
I got ten times you scoring the s A T
S and he murdered the wild style. We went out
on that and I felt like that sold the show.
(09:33):
You were like that's what got us the season or
that was it. And I don't even think Jean did
another season after that because I'm trying to is yeah,
you probably you'd have to go into the um um
(09:53):
naima Funk probably one of the most brilliant um improv
actors that I've ever witnessed, and that was somebody that
Nick was like, she's got it, and I was like, Nah,
she don't have it so magical on this show. You
know in the first few seasons that we had her
that you know, I will always say, she's definitely in
my in my top. How can we watch these seasons
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because some people you're naming, I don't even know. I
would just learned my history. This is my history now,
you know. I don't think I'm going to find something
for you, but I need to put him on. I'm like,
you need to put on a drop box for all
of I'm gonna put I'm gonna put the pilot you
You probably never seen the original pilot now where Kevin
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Hart was a cast member. Wow, people have never seen
that original pilot where Kevin is a cast member. He's
just a little kid. Yeah, I've seen. Yeah, I've seen
the episode where he stands up and he wrote everybody.
But that wasn't pilot. I think that was just an episode.
I was like, are he was already big? Yeah? Yeah,
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but he did. He did the original pilot as a
cast member, just a regular cast loon. Loon was the
special guest artist. Yeah yeah, so then maybe he was
the rapper. Then a few months later, so playing had
come out and then his star had listen and when
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the original the other pilot for MTV, he was the
special guest. That's where Gene Hang did his saying wild
So um yeah, so that's that's that's from the people
of old um uh. And I'm probably missing somebody that
I should should say anyway, but you know those are
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those are the ones that I'm gonna go with for
right now. Um of the new group. You want me
to want okay, you want my roots? Yeah, you I'm
not gonna go in any order. I'm not gonna go
in any order. Um, no order. Um, I'm gonna go. Uh,
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Charlie Clips, Emmanuel Hudson, Um, Justina Valentine's let's go in there. Uh,
there's one more. I know where you're forgetting d C
(12:33):
I did, No, you didn't do DCY no so DC. Yeah,
that's gonna be let's go. Yeah, just fy I now
just put me in there because I'm on the podcast.
I promise you I'm not. You know why. I'll tell
you exactly why you're one of my favorites because I
saw the most improved I saw. I saw where you
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came from, and you improved so much and then took
it to another stratosphere. And to me, that is the success.
That's the goal for me years to go. I want
to see you on another show or starting bell. Yeah,
you took it to another level where you were like, oh,
I'm just gonna be this ultra entrepreneur and it's just
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something that I didn't even see, you know what I mean.
And Justina, it's just you're just such a magical talent. No, no,
every season, I'm like, we gotta bring in somebody to
try to handle. Uh, you know, Justina, I had to
get up. I just gave up. There's no one's going
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to do that. Like in a minute. You're just You're
just we're just gonna sit you on the throne as
the just the wild style poet and no one's just
alone there now. But thank you. We appreciate honestly, you know,
I we say it, but I just want to like
say it while you're on here. Is that you know,
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you and Nick like really changed my life and I'll
never forget that if it wasn't for y'all, Like you know,
you gave me the platform and b I'm sure you
could attest the same thing, the platform to like live
my dreams show the world my talent, like get me money.
I really can never words can never express my gratitude
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or even thank you enough, Like when people say this
person changed my life, I really mean it when I
say it about you and Nick, like you'll change my
life and I just love you forever, like you place yourselves.
All right, y'all, we gotta take a quick break. We'll
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be right back with some more women while in our
podcast without very special guests and levits. Yeah, we are
back from break. I'm so excited to get into more
with now Evans, our producer back with the Women a
while now podcasts. So we want to know from you,
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what are some of the traps or missteps that you
see young talent, new talent full into when they're starting
their careers. I think that people are like especially with
especially nowadays with the with with the internet, people are
afraid to fail. People are so afraid to not have
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it would be the most perfect thing that they don't
move forward in their career. And you gotta go out
on stage and fail to you know, like when you
started walking, you had to fall a bunch of times,
and people don't want to fall anymore, and you know,
because they're afraid someone might be recording and probably you know,
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but I feel like people just need to they need
to understand that you've got to go through some ship
to get to where you to be, and people don't
want to go through that. They're just like, let me
take the easiest route, and I go, if you just
dragged the drug through the mud for a little bit,
you'll understand what that world is like and how to
either function in the mud or get out of the mud.
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And I think that, you know, I just I just
want people to know, like it's not gonna be easy.
And most of the time, it's like a lot of
these resources are right at your fingertips, but they're like,
I don't know how to get an agent. How do
you not know how to get an agent? When there's Google?
How are you asking me a question saying like, oh,
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I don't know how to start a business? What you
and any time? Thank you? And so I think that
people are people are lazy because there's too many resources
out here and they just want somebody to do it
for him, and hungry, hungry, And I know, you know,
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my mother always said that, you know, people don't change
into the pain gets great enough. So sometimes you gotta
let people go through the pain. And that's how I
am as a parent, that's how I am as a coach. Okay,
I say, hey, man, when you like with my son,
I go, you want to be late to school, you
don't get to drive, you don't get to have your phone. Okay,
when that pain is enough for you, then you'll get Yeah.
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You know, I've had to fire people for not being
on time and I know, yo, you don't. And I
do that to say, hey, everyone, look what happened to him.
He's not here anymore. I remember my first season, someone
came late. People walking out with luggage. Yes, so someone
came late to workshop. They're not on the show anymore,
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and you made them go around to the entire room.
We were still doing you, you were still making cuts,
so we were This was season He did it again,
I'm sure. But season eight in l A, someone came
late and you made them go to each and every
one of us. There's probably thirty people and give a
different funny reason why. They absolutely absolutely, because if you
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don't go through that, you just then you're gonna feel
like I could just come in late whenever I want
to know you can and I go, you can't do
that here. You could do that at home. You can
show up to the too much or wherever on your own,
but not here. This is a job. What I also
had to realize is a lot of these influences have
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never had real jobs. That never has clock in. They're
they're doing internet stuff, never had to be accountable, never
had to be accountable to anybody but themselves. And they're
making money, which is great, But I go, this is
a different structure. Also, we also have to keep in
mind it's corporate, so there's things we can't say and
can't do and uh, and it's a big addressment for
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some people. And so I understand that. But you're gonna
you're gonna you're gonna pay a fine if you want
to be late. You know what I mean. If I
can get up and be on time, you could be
here on time on time? You can literally yes you alright.
So now before we go, I just I have a
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very open ended question. You go, you go first, Oh,
open ended. We'll not open ended. It's just very like
kind of vague. I was just gonna say, yeah, it's
very broad. Um, you know, you've done so much, you've
accomplished so much already at you know, a young age,
because you're still mad young. But we just you're just
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like a mobile already in the business, a boss to
so many people. It's like, what is not only what's next,
but what do you see as the final destination? Question?
Oh says jump right in. You know, we do it
happen now? That was so good, go you're delivering it.
Like it's just like, what do you have plan next?
Having done so much already, and where do you see yourself?
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Like do you have a final destination? Like once I
accomplished this, I'm chilling find me on an island with
my family. Because you love what you do. I don't
think you're ever going to stop or do you have
retiring next year? Now? I do love what I do
and in my mind, I'm just getting started. So I
just feel like I feel like this show is like
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the springboard for me to do the next thing. This
produce my show to find Yeah, we're gonna do that,
We're gonna do that. The panel there it is. But
but my final destination is you know, I would I
want to have another show. I would like to have
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a scripted show. Actually I'm gonna manifest I'm gonna have
a scripted show. So yeah, that that I'm gonna I'm
writing and producing. Um and yeah, that's that's the goal
for me. And what I'd like to do is have
like maybe one or two more shows and then have
that one show that just I can hit out on
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and be like cool, I just created Jeopardy right now,
what's my life? And and and ride into the sunset
and you know, to me like wilding out raised my
son from birth too. I mean, it's still going to
go into Now. I have six year old girls, so
I need another show that's gonna take them them and
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then to where I can get to a point where
I can just you know, I can do whatever I
want to financial freedom, that's where you want to get freedom.
But we want to be in the stripted show now,
so just you know, write us in. Listen. It's a
done deal. All right. Well, I mean what I was
gonna say, come on, very go ahead. Was gonna say
you could go, but we have some more questions to
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get to. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Now, how do
I find a man? Did you eighty and all this
week's stuff? How do you find a man's let's dig
deep into that. Let's dig deep into that. How do
you find a man? One you manifested man? You know
you have to manifest it. And I always tell people,
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if you don't know what you want you like, Let's
just put it like this. When you go to a restaurant,
they give you a what when you sit down, men
and a menu has a bunch of different items. Right cool?
But does the waiter say here, you're gonna have this?
Or what do you do? You order? Right? You order?
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You order what the thing you want? If you don't,
you order everything. So that's like dating. Let's see, I
could date, you can, but you can try everything on
the menu, and I know, next time I go back,
I don't want that. I didn't like that. But at
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this point you should have dated enough to know what
you like and what you don't like, and what works
for you and what's healthy for you. But you're right.
Until you figure that out, you're gonna be in a limbo.
And I go until you make an order. The waiter
can't put your order in so that God can say
here's your guy. But you're you're just gonna be dating
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around and not really if you don't say I want
my husband to be this, this, this, this, I want
his interior to be this, this, this, this. I want
him to look like this, this, this, this, this, and
I want him to treat me like this, this, this this.
Then then you're just walking around with you have no listen.
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If if if, if you put into your into your navigation,
take me to New York. It's gonna drop you off
in New York somewhere anywhere. But if you say I
want to go on fifth and Broadway, I want to
go here, it's gonna take you there until you order
the exact same thing. And then what do you do
to your order? Oh? I like this salmon, but can
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you put this on the side? Can you do this?
Now you've refined it and made it exactly how you
want it, But until you do that, you just you're
just saying, give me whatever y'all got. So you know,
it's a good example of that. I made a list
of my ex, Like before I met my ex, I
made a whole list, like you said. I was like,
you know, if I want this type of man, what
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type of woman does he have to have by his side? Right?
So I made that list and I made my list,
and I feel like my ex was a ninety percent
of that list. And guess what, I started taking off
of it just like any But I'm saying like I
was like, um, a good father, like baby he or
(24:42):
a father or whatever. I was like, you gotta be specific,
not a father yet because he was a father, you
know what I'm saying. So he made me change out
some things like likes to go out, likes to have fun.
He went out too much, so I sometimes you gott
that when I feel like it. You know, he likes
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to take me out, saying do fun things together? You
get he knows when to go home, right it's sick,
the night is over. You gotta be uber specific if
you want the thing that, like I said, if you're
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ordering off the menu, you know you like the salmon
I wanted, but I want the dressing on the side.
Can you give him I want a side salad, but
some crueltons here. Refine that thing to where you find
what I wanted to be and then say this is
what I want and I promise you. He shows up
a promise period. Thanks. That's so cute. There is Where
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did you? How did you find your wife? Now? Was
it like your mutual friend or nah Facebook, Costco. Right,
I made the purchase at Costco. I bought her at Costco.
That's that's a terrible joke, I thought at Costco. I
(26:14):
met my wife on Facebook and um yeah. And I
used to do a blog called the Gluttony Tour and
where I would where I was gonna go on I
was gonna go on the Fast, but before I went
on the Fast, I was gonna go to all the
restaurants that I loved. And I was like, if people
want to come along, they can, And it became a
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thing and people started. I would be like, Yo, I'm
gonna go to this this taco truck, and then people
would show up at the taco truck and so and so.
I would blog a lot, right, and so people knew
me from my blog and and and and being on
on Facebook. And I wrote this. I wrote this back
in the days and had these things called Facebook notes,
(26:56):
and I would write these funny notes. And this one
was called utilizing your lights end And I probably could
never write it now, but I thought it was. It
was just a funny thing about you know, if you
if you are going to have this privilege, you better
utilize it basically, you know what I mean. It's like,
if you're white, utilize your white privilege if you can,
just don't abuse it. But right, And so somehow my wife,
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she wasn't my wife at the time, she found um,
she found somebody said Yo, you gotta read this. And
so I always say she's cyberstalking me because I put
on my I put on my Facebook. I was like, yo,
I'm gonna go to this this restaurant. And she was like,
I want to go to that restaurant too, And so
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I said, if you meet me there, I won't be
able to recognize you. So you gotta have an I
Heart nile t shirt on. She was like, she was like, yeah, okay,
she didn't do it, but she thought about it. But
she ended up we we had a date that we
we went to we went to this place called harven Stone,
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um in Hollywood, and we had a we had a
great date, um, you know, and I was you know,
I was being typical nonchalant me and we had a
good time, and uh, you know, we started dating a
little bit more. Um and you know, then date one
were you like this is my wife or just you
didn't know? I was like, you're cool and you but see,
(28:30):
let let me go, let me take it a step back.
I manifested. I manifested my son's mother. But I didn't
manifest the things that I really want. An interior, the
interior stuff. They're not manifested. They're not manifested, all the
interior stuff that I really wanted. And so when I say,
when I tell the story, I go. I didn't recognize
that she was supposed to be my wife because I
(28:52):
was like, oh, you're cool. Whatever, Yeah, you're cool. I'll
take you. We'll we'll go out a few times. And
God was like this, oh you don't see that, this
is the one you asked for. Jesus, So my wife
so so so Julia is her name. She gets sick
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and she goes to the hospital and finds out she
has staged four brain cancer. Jesus and God knows my heart.
And I was like, and she was like, look, I'm
going through this thing. I have to have surgery on Thursday.
You don't want to be around for this. Just you know,
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it's all good. I said, you're gonna have surgery on Thursday.
I said, I'll be there on Thursday. I can't believe that.
In the beginning, that was we're made three dates in
Oh my gosh, you know. And then I was like, okay,
I'll be there on Thursday surgery. Cool. Yeah, I sery
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the whole thing, the recovery, and I spent I might
have spent two weeks in the hospital with her, spending
the night in there with her, and that was the
thing that brought us together. And that was nothing, but
my manifestation said that was like, oh no, no, no,
this is her. Let me now now, now I know,
I'm a little not all done up, dolled up hair, makeup,
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weave booty, you know, you get you get to see
her heart at her lowest point, at her lowest point,
and I was like, and I still was kind of like, oh,
you're cool, but I'm gonna rock this out with you.
And then and then you know, she was doing chemo
and she was like, you need to give this a try,
and I said, got it, you're right. She said that.
(30:43):
She said, oh God said that because I was on
my I'm still out here because she was like, now
you need to get us a try. And so that
was it. That was it, and you know, and and
she recovered and you know, and and and we're good
to this day. And before y'all got married, we did
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it for a while. I mean we did it. We
did it for a long time. I mean it was
it was a couple of years and lived together and
broke up and got back together. You know, we went
we went through some things and then and so um,
you know, and then it was a time where it
was just like, you know, where am I in my life?
Let's let's yeah, let's just get to that step out
(31:33):
on faith. And what you realize is every time you
step out on faith, your life gets better. Something good
comes from it, whether you'll stay together, whether whatever it is,
something good comes from it. And my uncle told me
a lot of time with this is man, when you
get a wife, you'll be able to focus Jesus. And
when I did, I was way more focused. Everything started.
(31:56):
This was when while and now first started coming back.
You know, I was kind of in between things why
and I just started coming back when I when I
got with her, and it was just like then the
ball started rolling in every stage in my life that
I needed more elevated. God was like, here you go,
you did the wife, Here you go, Oh you need this,
(32:16):
Oh you need the house. Here you go, you got,
you got, you got twin girls, here you go. Let
me provide for this. It was like yeah, and then
and then honestly, you find a wife who loves you
and hold you down and like, now you're not out
there just dating and you know, being in the streets
and stuff. So when you get a white you'll be
(32:38):
able to focus. That's the only thing that's hilarious. Thank you.
So I got another while now question now, because you know,
we've had people on the show who, you know, everyone
felt were talented in their own right, whether they were
a social media person or median. But what is the
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difference between a talented performer and a talented performer who's
actually set successful on while now? Because there's a difference,
and not all talented people are able to make it
on the right because most of the time people are
talented on their own and when we get them, they're
usually like we never get hairs of people usually get
(33:26):
either you're a stand up, you're an improv actor, or
your uh, you know, influencer, and you have to on
on in order to in order to work on this show,
you have to work as a team and you have
to be a team player, and it's hard. It's a
hard transition for someone to come in and go, Man,
I'm talented on my own. I get laughs on my own,
(33:47):
but I gotta work with I gotta work with Carlos
or I have to be the butt of a joke
and I gotta laugh this thing off or less. Somebody
have their shine for a minute. You ain't always got
to be the head of the show. Yeah, but you
know on the internet, you're always the star. You're always
the star. Yeah, You're always a star. So you know,
it takes a lot for a lot of people to
(34:08):
transition and understand that this is a team sport and
then we're all in it together to make one funny show.
It's it's competitive, but it's not really that competitive. It's like,
you know, we're gonna figure out what we're gonna do,
but we just want to make a great funny show.
Like we don't care about the score on the show.
We just care about did everyone have a good time?
You know, no one cares to snoop one are lost.
(34:30):
We just care everyone laughed. Yeah. Yeah, And a lot
of people, you know, they don't Sometimes they just don't
work within a team structure like that, and you know
they gotta go and they you know, or they're selfish,
or they just have a big ego, you know, And
I go, if your ego is bigger than next, then
you got a problem does over here? Yeah? I mean
(34:56):
Nick is probably one of the most humble guys in
the world. So it's like, you know, you don't. You
don't have to come in with all that bravado. Take
that down a notch and come play these games great,
you know, period. I think we need a good Nile quote.
What do you think? Oh man, a good quote? Oh man,
(35:18):
I almost forgot the format of the show. Oh what
is the quote? Um, I'm gonna take a quote. You know.
I had a good one that I had a meeting
yesterday and somebody who told me this great quote. But
this one is one that my uncle always said. He says,
when you know better, you do better. That's it. And
(35:42):
most people know better, but they choose not to do better.
And when when when you are in the know and
you already know it, you know, now it's up to
you to do better. So I know that I don't.
This type of person is not for me. And I
keep going back. If you know better, you do better.
(36:04):
So when you figure out that something is not working
for you, you've got to do better and either go
past that thing or work through that thing. Yeah, from
your diet, to the people in your life, to your career,
whatever that is, whatever resonates with y'all, whoever is listening
to this podcast is better. Better because the definition of
insanity is doing the same thing over over over over
(36:24):
and expecting expecting a different result. You're not gonna get
a different result. It's the thing that's why you don't
date the same types of dudes. Go find a different type.
You level up, You level up, you know, get something different,
you know, rappers, no more, no more data. Plumber a
(36:45):
hundred percent the owner of the plumbing company. Hello, thank you?
Is uh well, I think thank you? Nia. Yes, And
this has been this is so good. Yeah, it's been
such a great show having now on her. Like we said, guys,
he is the executive producer not only of this podcast
Woman a While and Now, but of the best show
(37:06):
in the world, While and Now. And he was there
since day one literally birth this baby. And he's an icon,
a legend, and he's the best coach in the world,
and we just love you now, I appreciate I love
you guys too. So you guys definitely my loves and
definitely my favorites. And I just thank you for being
on the being a part of the show that as
(37:28):
I guess that I could be on this show here.
So where can these people find you that they could
blow you up and ask you? Put me out? Out?
Put out now? Evans on pretty much everything Instagram, Um,
you know Facebook, now, Evans, don't look up my son.
He's a little light skim version of me. So handsome.
(37:53):
But but yeah, no, that's that's where I am. Make
sure to spell my name right if you're gonna d
m me and blow me up. It's Nile like the river,
the river, It's very simple. That's not me. That's not me,
you know. But don't ask nobody for a job and
spell the name wrong. Correct. No, Okay, we love you now,
(38:17):
thank you for saying I was your favorite. Alright, y'all,
we will take a break. We're gonna be right back
for more women a while in our pots. Okay, you
guys are gonna be Simone Mabo just in a Valentine
(38:37):
and women a while in our podcast. We are back
and we just had now events on here our producer,
my you know, industry dad. He was so good, just
he was so good and it was so cool be
like to you know now, like knows all of our
stories and he watched us grow. But for us to
be able to be like, well, what's your story? We
(38:58):
want to hear him back in the day and to
even just hear the skill set that he has it
literally in his family, his aunt, his uncle, or being
showrunners and being like the forces behind so many iconic shows.
That was a cool thing. I had no idea. And
him talking about his wife, their story is so beautiful.
(39:19):
But that's how sometimes you gotta do. You gotta hit
these niggas upside the head and be like, look, bro,
I'm the one, okay, So you need to take this chance,
stef I don't faith and stop dating me and make
me your wife. Right. No, that was like super bossy
of her. She was like, look, you just stood with
me in the hospital for two weeks like it should.
Now you need to come give us a chance and right,
(39:40):
And she is so sweet. I absolutely loved, like, she's
so dope. But it's cool to hear how that came
about and she was really that calming force that sat
him down and was like, no, we're about to do
this because it seems like that's what he needed in
his life at that time time. What was the quote
he said is uncle said if you when you get
(40:02):
a wife, you'll be focused. Yes, once you get a wife,
like you'll you'll be settled and I guess just focused
on what you need to do. But it's it's the
truth when you think about it. Be like even thinking
like you know, let's say right now you were trying
to date around you wouldn't have the time for it.
It's like, right, it does take your energy and your
focus away from other things. So you know, right, right, right,
(40:25):
So when you have that one person, you're focused on
all the building and growing and pouring into each other together. Hello,
you know you have a goal, you have more focus.
You're just not looking out to lift and right up
down left you focus on that goal you know, with
with your significant other. So I love that. Yes, Like
you know, I didn't know all that about him. I'm
so glad I made his top five. I was saw
(40:47):
but see if it was you and B he would
have been like Vina, No, if Veena is here. He
would have had to like say all three and not
one of the person, all three of us, because you
know he wasn't gonna do two or not one. Now
he's like, but I really I would you know me, Like,
I'm not like what that stef sucked up? I'm like,
Justina is a fucking wlven out legend. I get it.
(41:08):
Thank you, sis, No, you were killing me. You were like,
all right, and don't forget about your favorite girl with
the finger holes, finger waves, blind hair poking at uh
you know Simone Joe for um. But no, what what
now said? It's true? Says like you're you know, you're
just your brand and just you as a person, like
(41:30):
your legendary and you've exceeded and done so much when
he put you on the list, like you're definitely deserving
of that. And like he said, it's not just about
the show, it's also about like everything you've done into exactly,
so like all that and that's what I feel about you.
Let me tell you out something about Justina. I don't
care how long she's been doing something. I don't care
(41:51):
how bomb, how bossy, how amazing she is at something.
Justina Valentine treats every single day like day won I
really value that you stand that and see that in you.
I don't care Like she doesn't get complacent, she doesn't
get comfortable. You see justine it in the workshops. This
bitch is in the corner on her own taking it.
(42:12):
I'm like, bitch, you can wrap relax. You're like relax,
You're like, no, I think we're wrapping about apples, Like
I gotta gets crazy, have an apple ready to school
tricks up my sleeve. That's out of me now. I
mean no, it's it's true being. I appreciate it, and
(42:33):
you know, I think it is part of it is that,
like I definitely am competitive, and also I'm just like
really thankful to be here. So I treat my I
don't I do treat my eleventh season like my first,
you know, And I think that's just what like makes
us great and has made us, you know, stand the
(42:53):
test of time on the show and even with just
what we do, because the truth is, like you know,
in the industries were in, it just is women got
to do more. We just have to do more. We
have to show improve more, and it is what it is.
And I'm just so grateful that like you and me
and v and and and Jess and all the women
on the show, like Mimi and Maddie, like we've just
(43:15):
all been able to grow and get along and right
and and and just run with it and support each
other and just be here and like you know what
generally has been like a male dominated field, and just
be killing it. And we've all made and carved out
our own space. So that's a blessing, and it is.
(43:36):
It is all thanks to Nick and Nil and the
whole team of producers on Wilding Out that have given
us the opportunity and we've taken it and and made
to work for us. So it is what it is.
I love you. I Love you. Episode was so good.
It was so like family, and y'all make sure now
(43:57):
I'll go to his social medias and stuff and bud
him And I'm just kidding. Don't bug him because he's
don't bug him too much because it's it's over for
this season. He's like, it's over. We chose who we chose. Yes,
he's like, stop d having me, stop emailing me. The
season's done. But yes, make sure you tune in because
(44:18):
season seventeen is currently playing every Tuesday and Wednesday, so
watch out for that and tune in every week to
the Women a While and Out podcast, where the ladies
controlled Mike put it down, do what we like and
that's how we do it. Love you guys, fine, peace,
Welcome to the women. While in our podcast, you gotta
be girl. Body, it's your girl, y'all, go pretty what's up?
Yo's back girl, Justina be with Pretty D and D somebody.
You body get your show, ladies, and tonight we're gonna
(00:23):
have the women a while and casts all the cars. Y'all,
we are back. It is the second part of this
bomb ass interview with our producer. Now Evans, y'all. Okay,
So y'all know we only do audio, so I had
(00:44):
to turn off my air condition and I am hot
as hell, but I am here with my girl, Justina Valentine, Justina,
I'm so hot. We gotta get into this interview so
I can turn my airback. Well, girl, it's getting hot
in here. It's get getting the steam here because we
got now and you got to high ropot system out.
But we're gonna get into this now. We are back
(01:07):
to you. We are so excited to talk more. And
what now Evans, y'all, yes, I mean just hearing all
these stories from now, hearing about how he started. Um,
it's a really cool thing because you know now seeing
us from little seeds and you know he raised us
into what we are today. So it's cool to hear
how he got started, how he met Nick, and just
(01:28):
how he balances his whole life between being a producer,
a family man and and all that and just spotting talent,
because I feel like Nile has seen every single person
that's been on the whole the beginning. Yeah, being able
to spot talent, you know, it's it's that's his one
of his greatest talents. I think it's being able to
(01:50):
spot talent who hasn't and who doesn't exactly. So now
that now's back in the building, be I think we
we just got to really ask him everything we want
to get too, because I know last week we didn't
quite have enough time. But this week we gotta put him,
we gotta put him in the hot seat. Leta ask
him some tough questions. So let's get down and dirty.
So now on a personal tip, um, just being a
(02:12):
father and a husband influence how your work and you know,
professional relationships. Just being able to balance both worlds because
you're a great father, great husband and a great coach.
So like, how do you balance it all? I think
I think, you know, we we only do whiling out people.
You know, people think that we're spending the whole year
door whiling out like we're keeping all the time. Because
(02:34):
we have so many episodes. They don't know we do
ten in a day. They don't know. I'm just kidding,
so they don't understand. Like I'm on this show for
maybe a month, you know, so I have time to
to to spend all my family and I have time
to spend with my girls, my son, my wife and
(02:55):
you know your family is so beautiful by the way, Yes,
have not at your girls. Yeah, yeah on Instagram. Your wife. Yeah.
And your wife is the best man so sweet, she's
so sweet, She's fun. I love her. I lover her.
I got her from Costco a few years ago. And
best purchase I've ever made. You have to doing what
(03:21):
you do, Like your wife is so down for you
and what you do. And you can just tell you
gotta have a rider with you. And you know, being
a being a dad has really being a dad honestly,
being a dad before being a husband, um was probably
better for me because what I learned from what I
learned how to life is like I had to learn
(03:42):
how to raise this the son, and I had to
learn who I needed to be for him, and some
of those things are the same things that you have
to be for your your wife, and you have to
be a father not for her, but not just to her.
But you know, in a sense you have to. Like
when a father gives a gives his daughter away, he's
(04:03):
giving him away to another father. And if you don't
know how to be a father, it's it's hard to
you know, to be a man. And I had to
learn how to be a man for myself. I think
it was better. It was a better situation for me
to understand, like, Okay, I have to lead the same
way I lead with my son as I do with
(04:26):
you with my wife, and so, uh, you know, I
think that it was it was a little non traditional,
but I think that you know, that's that was what
it took. And you know, balancing balancing your career and
and being a dad is tough. You know, you might
miss a few games sometimes and there are things that
you know, but you try to make up for it
(04:47):
by going, hey, look we're gonna be able to go
on this vacation. Yeah, yeah, I do take some nice vacase.
I see all the little picks and oh yeah, we
get out there and it now Instagram and he gonna
have a cigar in his hand and he's gonna grow
show as on his story like this for me, them them,
(05:08):
them little subliminals, I'll be like, damn, he making me
think today. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying
to get everybody to think. And when I learned something,
I want everyone else to learn it too. So I'm
always trying to push and motivate people to be better
because I want somebody to push and motivate me to
be better. When I read stuff and I see things,
(05:29):
I go, man, this is this is what I need
to be doing. I need to I need I need
to hear this. You're never going to stop learning. I'm
every season I probably read a new book about coaching
or something motivational so that I can bring for the
next season, because I can't expect you guys to get
better if I'm not getting better. If you're so you know,
(05:52):
I gotta do the work too. And I really I
take it seriously because it's it's this is a baby
and a brand that Nick Burr and I helped deliver,
and you know, we're really you know, it's a precious thing.
It's a thing that you're you know, it's it's a child,
you know what I mean, and you don't want people
to damage it. You want you want the best for it,
(06:13):
and you don't want you know, you definitely want nobody
to suck it up. So if anybody's gonna sucking up,
it's gonna be Nick, you know what I mean. It's like,
you know, if you want to suck it up, that's fine,
you know what I mean, it's your kid, bro. You know,
we all just have to deal with it. But I'm
not gonna I'm not not on my watch. I'm not
gonna let nobody else suck it up for it. So
(06:33):
you know that's that's part of what I try to manage.
And you know, we just try to build this brand
to be you know, my my roommate made the logo,
you know what I mean, like that dial and now
he's like he is he still getting paid for that
when he doesn't get paid, he like did like you know,
(06:55):
from that, he did a lot of work, like he
did some like NAS album cover stuff. Yeah, you don't
live far from me. He's yeah good, He's definitely good,
you know. So you know it's like when you watch
something grow up it's it's it's a dope thing. And
then when you know, for me to watch you guys
(07:15):
grow up, it's even doper because it's like I'm watching
my kids. Just I remember, yeah, I remember geting you both.
You know what I mean. It's like it's like my
adopted you know what I mean. It's like, and now
I see you guys all growing up and get money
and doing your thing, and it's just, you know, I
just go, it's just you don't understand it. It almost
(07:37):
bring me to tears when I see some of you
guys online or on a TV show, because I go,
I go, I remember seeing you when you didn't have
that confidence. Remember you were just starting, and now now
you're getting money, and I just go, I love to
see it because it's just it's watching your kids grow up,
(07:58):
you know, you remembering than discussing, you know. Yeah, And
that brings me to my next question, who's your favorite?
Who's my favorite? Oh? Yeah, they want your top five?
Remember stop five? But you know, of all time, so
I ain't gotta be in there time all time. Yeah,
(08:23):
I do all you could do all time. And then currently, okay,
I'm gonna do of all time and then currently and
this is this is bad um because I shouldn't choose
like this. Okay, so all time are you in the
hot seat? Now I'm in the hot seat. I'm in
the hot seat. Open your favorite black girl with fingers
(08:48):
with the ship of all time. I'm gonna probably go
I'm gonna go Cat Williams, I'm gonna go Mikey day
Taren kill him. I'm gonna go untraditional Gene Hang. If
(09:12):
you ever saw the first, very first pilot episode Gene
Hong was the he had a moment against spanking where
he says, yeah, I'm Asian, like it's a disease, but
I got ten times you scoring the s A T
S and he murdered the wild style. We went out
on that and I felt like that sold the show.
(09:33):
You were like that's what got us the season or
that was it. And I don't even think Jean did
another season after that because I'm trying to is yeah,
you probably you'd have to go into the um um
(09:53):
naima Funk probably one of the most brilliant um improv
actors that I've ever witnessed, and that was somebody that
Nick was like, she's got it, and I was like, Nah,
she don't have it so magical on this show. You
know in the first few seasons that we had her
that you know, I will always say, she's definitely in
my in my top. How can we watch these seasons
(10:17):
because some people you're naming, I don't even know. I
would just learned my history. This is my history now,
you know. I don't think I'm going to find something
for you, but I need to put him on. I'm like,
you need to put on a drop box for all
of I'm gonna put I'm gonna put the pilot you
You probably never seen the original pilot now where Kevin
(10:39):
Hart was a cast member. Wow, people have never seen
that original pilot where Kevin is a cast member. He's
just a little kid. Yeah, I've seen. Yeah, I've seen
the episode where he stands up and he wrote everybody.
But that wasn't pilot. I think that was just an episode.
I was like, are he was already big? Yeah? Yeah,
(11:05):
but he did. He did the original pilot as a
cast member, just a regular cast loon. Loon was the
special guest artist. Yeah yeah, so then maybe he was
the rapper. Then a few months later, so playing had
come out and then his star had listen and when
(11:26):
the original the other pilot for MTV, he was the
special guest. That's where Gene Hang did his saying wild
So um yeah, so that's that's that's from the people
of old um uh. And I'm probably missing somebody that
I should should say anyway, but you know those are
(11:47):
those are the ones that I'm gonna go with for
right now. Um of the new group. You want me
to want okay, you want my roots? Yeah, you I'm
not gonna go in any order. I'm not gonna go
in any order. Um, no order. Um, I'm gonna go. Uh,
(12:12):
Charlie Clips, Emmanuel Hudson, Um, Justina Valentine's let's go in there. Uh,
there's one more. I know where you're forgetting d C
(12:33):
I did, No, you didn't do DCY no so DC. Yeah,
that's gonna be let's go. Yeah, just fy I now
just put me in there because I'm on the podcast.
I promise you I'm not. You know why. I'll tell
you exactly why you're one of my favorites because I
saw the most improved I saw. I saw where you
(12:56):
came from, and you improved so much and then took
it to another stratosphere. And to me, that is the success.
That's the goal for me years to go. I want
to see you on another show or starting bell. Yeah,
you took it to another level where you were like, oh,
I'm just gonna be this ultra entrepreneur and it's just
(13:19):
something that I didn't even see, you know what I mean.
And Justina, it's just you're just such a magical talent. No, no,
every season, I'm like, we gotta bring in somebody to
try to handle. Uh, you know, Justina, I had to
get up. I just gave up. There's no one's going
(13:43):
to do that. Like in a minute. You're just You're
just we're just gonna sit you on the throne as
the just the wild style poet and no one's just
alone there now. But thank you. We appreciate honestly, you know,
I we say it, but I just want to like
say it while you're on here. Is that you know,
(14:04):
you and Nick like really changed my life and I'll
never forget that if it wasn't for y'all, Like you know,
you gave me the platform and b I'm sure you
could attest the same thing, the platform to like live
my dreams show the world my talent, like get me money.
I really can never words can never express my gratitude
(14:25):
or even thank you enough, Like when people say this
person changed my life, I really mean it when I
say it about you and Nick, like you'll change my
life and I just love you forever, like you place yourselves.
All right, y'all, we gotta take a quick break. We'll
(14:47):
be right back with some more women while in our
podcast without very special guests and levits. Yeah, we are
back from break. I'm so excited to get into more
with now Evans, our producer back with the Women a
while now podcasts. So we want to know from you,
(15:10):
what are some of the traps or missteps that you
see young talent, new talent full into when they're starting
their careers. I think that people are like especially with
especially nowadays with the with with the internet, people are
afraid to fail. People are so afraid to not have
(15:32):
it would be the most perfect thing that they don't
move forward in their career. And you gotta go out
on stage and fail to you know, like when you
started walking, you had to fall a bunch of times,
and people don't want to fall anymore, and you know,
because they're afraid someone might be recording and probably you know,
(15:52):
but I feel like people just need to they need
to understand that you've got to go through some ship
to get to where you to be, and people don't
want to go through that. They're just like, let me
take the easiest route, and I go, if you just
dragged the drug through the mud for a little bit,
you'll understand what that world is like and how to
either function in the mud or get out of the mud.
(16:15):
And I think that, you know, I just I just
want people to know, like it's not gonna be easy.
And most of the time, it's like a lot of
these resources are right at your fingertips, but they're like,
I don't know how to get an agent. How do
you not know how to get an agent? When there's Google?
How are you asking me a question saying like, oh,
(16:36):
I don't know how to start a business? What you
and any time? Thank you? And so I think that
people are people are lazy because there's too many resources
out here and they just want somebody to do it
for him, and hungry, hungry, And I know, you know,
(16:57):
my mother always said that, you know, people don't change
into the pain gets great enough. So sometimes you gotta
let people go through the pain. And that's how I
am as a parent, that's how I am as a coach. Okay,
I say, hey, man, when you like with my son,
I go, you want to be late to school, you
don't get to drive, you don't get to have your phone. Okay,
when that pain is enough for you, then you'll get Yeah.
(17:21):
You know, I've had to fire people for not being
on time and I know, yo, you don't. And I
do that to say, hey, everyone, look what happened to him.
He's not here anymore. I remember my first season, someone
came late. People walking out with luggage. Yes, so someone
came late to workshop. They're not on the show anymore,
(17:41):
and you made them go around to the entire room.
We were still doing you, you were still making cuts,
so we were This was season He did it again,
I'm sure. But season eight in l A, someone came
late and you made them go to each and every
one of us. There's probably thirty people and give a
different funny reason why. They absolutely absolutely, because if you
(18:07):
don't go through that, you just then you're gonna feel
like I could just come in late whenever I want
to know you can and I go, you can't do
that here. You could do that at home. You can
show up to the too much or wherever on your own,
but not here. This is a job. What I also
had to realize is a lot of these influences have
(18:27):
never had real jobs. That never has clock in. They're
they're doing internet stuff, never had to be accountable, never
had to be accountable to anybody but themselves. And they're
making money, which is great, But I go, this is
a different structure. Also, we also have to keep in
mind it's corporate, so there's things we can't say and
can't do and uh, and it's a big addressment for
(18:50):
some people. And so I understand that. But you're gonna
you're gonna you're gonna pay a fine if you want
to be late. You know what I mean. If I
can get up and be on time, you could be
here on time on time? You can literally yes you alright.
So now before we go, I just I have a
(19:13):
very open ended question. You go, you go first, Oh,
open ended. We'll not open ended. It's just very like
kind of vague. I was just gonna say, yeah, it's
very broad. Um, you know, you've done so much, you've
accomplished so much already at you know, a young age,
because you're still mad young. But we just you're just
(19:34):
like a mobile already in the business, a boss to
so many people. It's like, what is not only what's next,
but what do you see as the final destination? Question?
Oh says jump right in. You know, we do it
happen now? That was so good, go you're delivering it.
Like it's just like, what do you have plan next?
Having done so much already, and where do you see yourself?
(19:58):
Like do you have a final destination? Like once I
accomplished this, I'm chilling find me on an island with
my family. Because you love what you do. I don't
think you're ever going to stop or do you have
retiring next year? Now? I do love what I do
and in my mind, I'm just getting started. So I
just feel like I feel like this show is like
(20:19):
the springboard for me to do the next thing. This
produce my show to find Yeah, we're gonna do that,
We're gonna do that. The panel there it is. But
but my final destination is you know, I would I
want to have another show. I would like to have
(20:40):
a scripted show. Actually I'm gonna manifest I'm gonna have
a scripted show. So yeah, that that I'm gonna I'm
writing and producing. Um and yeah, that's that's the goal
for me. And what I'd like to do is have
like maybe one or two more shows and then have
that one show that just I can hit out on
(21:01):
and be like cool, I just created Jeopardy right now,
what's my life? And and and ride into the sunset
and you know, to me like wilding out raised my
son from birth too. I mean, it's still going to
go into Now. I have six year old girls, so
I need another show that's gonna take them them and
(21:25):
then to where I can get to a point where
I can just you know, I can do whatever I
want to financial freedom, that's where you want to get freedom.
But we want to be in the stripted show now,
so just you know, write us in. Listen. It's a
done deal. All right. Well, I mean what I was
gonna say, come on, very go ahead. Was gonna say
you could go, but we have some more questions to
(21:46):
get to. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Now, how do
I find a man? Did you eighty and all this
week's stuff? How do you find a man's let's dig
deep into that. Let's dig deep into that. How do
you find a man? One you manifested man? You know
you have to manifest it. And I always tell people,
(22:08):
if you don't know what you want you like, Let's
just put it like this. When you go to a restaurant,
they give you a what when you sit down, men
and a menu has a bunch of different items. Right cool?
But does the waiter say here, you're gonna have this?
Or what do you do? You order? Right? You order?
(22:28):
You order what the thing you want? If you don't,
you order everything. So that's like dating. Let's see, I
could date, you can, but you can try everything on
the menu, and I know, next time I go back,
I don't want that. I didn't like that. But at
(22:49):
this point you should have dated enough to know what
you like and what you don't like, and what works
for you and what's healthy for you. But you're right.
Until you figure that out, you're gonna be in a limbo.
And I go until you make an order. The waiter
can't put your order in so that God can say
here's your guy. But you're you're just gonna be dating
(23:12):
around and not really if you don't say I want
my husband to be this, this, this, this, I want
his interior to be this, this, this, this. I want
him to look like this, this, this, this, this, and
I want him to treat me like this, this, this this.
Then then you're just walking around with you have no listen.
(23:35):
If if if, if you put into your into your navigation,
take me to New York. It's gonna drop you off
in New York somewhere anywhere. But if you say I
want to go on fifth and Broadway, I want to
go here, it's gonna take you there until you order
the exact same thing. And then what do you do
to your order? Oh? I like this salmon, but can
(23:57):
you put this on the side? Can you do this?
Now you've refined it and made it exactly how you
want it, But until you do that, you just you're
just saying, give me whatever y'all got. So you know,
it's a good example of that. I made a list
of my ex, Like before I met my ex, I
made a whole list, like you said. I was like,
you know, if I want this type of man, what
(24:20):
type of woman does he have to have by his side? Right?
So I made that list and I made my list,
and I feel like my ex was a ninety percent
of that list. And guess what, I started taking off
of it just like any But I'm saying like I
was like, um, a good father, like baby he or
(24:42):
a father or whatever. I was like, you gotta be specific,
not a father yet because he was a father, you
know what I'm saying. So he made me change out
some things like likes to go out, likes to have fun.
He went out too much, so I sometimes you gott
that when I feel like it. You know, he likes
(25:04):
to take me out, saying do fun things together? You
get he knows when to go home, right it's sick,
the night is over. You gotta be uber specific if
you want the thing that, like I said, if you're
(25:26):
ordering off the menu, you know you like the salmon
I wanted, but I want the dressing on the side.
Can you give him I want a side salad, but
some crueltons here. Refine that thing to where you find
what I wanted to be and then say this is
what I want and I promise you. He shows up
a promise period. Thanks. That's so cute. There is Where
(25:51):
did you? How did you find your wife? Now? Was
it like your mutual friend or nah Facebook, Costco. Right,
I made the purchase at Costco. I bought her at Costco.
That's that's a terrible joke, I thought at Costco. I
(26:14):
met my wife on Facebook and um yeah. And I
used to do a blog called the Gluttony Tour and
where I would where I was gonna go on I
was gonna go on the Fast, but before I went
on the Fast, I was gonna go to all the
restaurants that I loved. And I was like, if people
want to come along, they can, And it became a
(26:34):
thing and people started. I would be like, Yo, I'm
gonna go to this this taco truck, and then people
would show up at the taco truck and so and so.
I would blog a lot, right, and so people knew
me from my blog and and and and being on
on Facebook. And I wrote this. I wrote this back
in the days and had these things called Facebook notes,
(26:56):
and I would write these funny notes. And this one
was called utilizing your lights end And I probably could
never write it now, but I thought it was. It
was just a funny thing about you know, if you
if you are going to have this privilege, you better
utilize it basically, you know what I mean. It's like,
if you're white, utilize your white privilege if you can,
just don't abuse it. But right, And so somehow my wife,
(27:23):
she wasn't my wife at the time, she found um,
she found somebody said Yo, you gotta read this. And
so I always say she's cyberstalking me because I put
on my I put on my Facebook. I was like, yo,
I'm gonna go to this this restaurant. And she was like,
I want to go to that restaurant too, And so
(27:47):
I said, if you meet me there, I won't be
able to recognize you. So you gotta have an I
Heart nile t shirt on. She was like, she was like, yeah, okay,
she didn't do it, but she thought about it. But
she ended up we we had a date that we
we went to we went to this place called harven Stone,
(28:08):
um in Hollywood, and we had a we had a
great date, um, you know, and I was you know,
I was being typical nonchalant me and we had a
good time, and uh, you know, we started dating a
little bit more. Um and you know, then date one
were you like this is my wife or just you
didn't know? I was like, you're cool and you but see,
(28:30):
let let me go, let me take it a step back.
I manifested. I manifested my son's mother. But I didn't
manifest the things that I really want. An interior, the
interior stuff. They're not manifested. They're not manifested, all the
interior stuff that I really wanted. And so when I say,
when I tell the story, I go. I didn't recognize
that she was supposed to be my wife because I
(28:52):
was like, oh, you're cool. Whatever, Yeah, you're cool. I'll
take you. We'll we'll go out a few times. And
God was like this, oh you don't see that, this
is the one you asked for. Jesus, So my wife
so so so Julia is her name. She gets sick
(29:13):
and she goes to the hospital and finds out she
has staged four brain cancer. Jesus and God knows my heart.
And I was like, and she was like, look, I'm
going through this thing. I have to have surgery on Thursday.
You don't want to be around for this. Just you know,
(29:33):
it's all good. I said, you're gonna have surgery on Thursday.
I said, I'll be there on Thursday. I can't believe that.
In the beginning, that was we're made three dates in
Oh my gosh, you know. And then I was like, okay,
I'll be there on Thursday surgery. Cool. Yeah, I sery
(29:56):
the whole thing, the recovery, and I spent I might
have spent two weeks in the hospital with her, spending
the night in there with her, and that was the
thing that brought us together. And that was nothing, but
my manifestation said that was like, oh no, no, no,
this is her. Let me now now, now I know,
I'm a little not all done up, dolled up hair, makeup,
(30:20):
weave booty, you know, you get you get to see
her heart at her lowest point, at her lowest point,
and I was like, and I still was kind of like, oh,
you're cool, but I'm gonna rock this out with you.
And then and then you know, she was doing chemo
and she was like, you need to give this a try,
and I said, got it, you're right. She said that.
(30:43):
She said, oh God said that because I was on
my I'm still out here because she was like, now
you need to get us a try. And so that
was it. That was it, and you know, and and
she recovered and you know, and and and we're good
to this day. And before y'all got married, we did
(31:06):
it for a while. I mean we did it. We
did it for a long time. I mean it was
it was a couple of years and lived together and
broke up and got back together. You know, we went
we went through some things and then and so um,
you know, and then it was a time where it
was just like, you know, where am I in my life?
Let's let's yeah, let's just get to that step out
(31:33):
on faith. And what you realize is every time you
step out on faith, your life gets better. Something good
comes from it, whether you'll stay together, whether whatever it is,
something good comes from it. And my uncle told me
a lot of time with this is man, when you
get a wife, you'll be able to focus Jesus. And
when I did, I was way more focused. Everything started.
(31:56):
This was when while and now first started coming back.
You know, I was kind of in between things why
and I just started coming back when I when I
got with her, and it was just like then the
ball started rolling in every stage in my life that
I needed more elevated. God was like, here you go,
you did the wife, Here you go, Oh you need this,
(32:16):
Oh you need the house. Here you go, you got,
you got, you got twin girls, here you go. Let
me provide for this. It was like yeah, and then
and then honestly, you find a wife who loves you
and hold you down and like, now you're not out
there just dating and you know, being in the streets
and stuff. So when you get a white you'll be
(32:38):
able to focus. That's the only thing that's hilarious. Thank you.
So I got another while now question now, because you know,
we've had people on the show who, you know, everyone
felt were talented in their own right, whether they were
a social media person or median. But what is the
(33:02):
difference between a talented performer and a talented performer who's
actually set successful on while now? Because there's a difference,
and not all talented people are able to make it
on the right because most of the time people are
talented on their own and when we get them, they're
usually like we never get hairs of people usually get
(33:26):
either you're a stand up, you're an improv actor, or
your uh, you know, influencer, and you have to on
on in order to in order to work on this show,
you have to work as a team and you have
to be a team player, and it's hard. It's a
hard transition for someone to come in and go, Man,
I'm talented on my own. I get laughs on my own,
(33:47):
but I gotta work with I gotta work with Carlos
or I have to be the butt of a joke
and I gotta laugh this thing off or less. Somebody
have their shine for a minute. You ain't always got
to be the head of the show. Yeah, but you
know on the internet, you're always the star. You're always
the star. Yeah, You're always a star. So you know,
it takes a lot for a lot of people to
(34:08):
transition and understand that this is a team sport and
then we're all in it together to make one funny show.
It's it's competitive, but it's not really that competitive. It's like,
you know, we're gonna figure out what we're gonna do,
but we just want to make a great funny show.
Like we don't care about the score on the show.
We just care about did everyone have a good time?
You know, no one cares to snoop one are lost.
(34:30):
We just care everyone laughed. Yeah. Yeah, And a lot
of people, you know, they don't Sometimes they just don't
work within a team structure like that, and you know
they gotta go and they you know, or they're selfish,
or they just have a big ego, you know, And
I go, if your ego is bigger than next, then
you got a problem does over here? Yeah? I mean
(34:56):
Nick is probably one of the most humble guys in
the world. So it's like, you know, you don't. You
don't have to come in with all that bravado. Take
that down a notch and come play these games great,
you know, period. I think we need a good Nile quote.
What do you think? Oh man, a good quote? Oh man,
(35:18):
I almost forgot the format of the show. Oh what
is the quote? Um, I'm gonna take a quote. You know.
I had a good one that I had a meeting
yesterday and somebody who told me this great quote. But
this one is one that my uncle always said. He says,
when you know better, you do better. That's it. And
(35:42):
most people know better, but they choose not to do better.
And when when when you are in the know and
you already know it, you know, now it's up to
you to do better. So I know that I don't.
This type of person is not for me. And I
keep going back. If you know better, you do better.
(36:04):
So when you figure out that something is not working
for you, you've got to do better and either go
past that thing or work through that thing. Yeah, from
your diet, to the people in your life, to your career,
whatever that is, whatever resonates with y'all, whoever is listening
to this podcast is better. Better because the definition of
insanity is doing the same thing over over over over
(36:24):
and expecting expecting a different result. You're not gonna get
a different result. It's the thing that's why you don't
date the same types of dudes. Go find a different type.
You level up, You level up, you know, get something different,
you know, rappers, no more, no more data. Plumber a
(36:45):
hundred percent the owner of the plumbing company. Hello, thank you?
Is uh well, I think thank you? Nia. Yes, And
this has been this is so good. Yeah, it's been
such a great show having now on her. Like we said, guys,
he is the executive producer not only of this podcast
Woman a While and Now, but of the best show
(37:06):
in the world, While and Now. And he was there
since day one literally birth this baby. And he's an icon,
a legend, and he's the best coach in the world,
and we just love you now, I appreciate I love
you guys too. So you guys definitely my loves and
definitely my favorites. And I just thank you for being
on the being a part of the show that as
(37:28):
I guess that I could be on this show here.
So where can these people find you that they could
blow you up and ask you? Put me out? Out?
Put out now? Evans on pretty much everything Instagram, Um,
you know Facebook, now, Evans, don't look up my son.
He's a little light skim version of me. So handsome.
(37:53):
But but yeah, no, that's that's where I am. Make
sure to spell my name right if you're gonna d
m me and blow me up. It's Nile like the river,
the river, It's very simple. That's not me. That's not me,
you know. But don't ask nobody for a job and
spell the name wrong. Correct. No, Okay, we love you now,
(38:17):
thank you for saying I was your favorite. Alright, y'all,
we will take a break. We're gonna be right back
for more women a while in our pots. Okay, you
guys are gonna be Simone Mabo just in a Valentine
(38:37):
and women a while in our podcast. We are back
and we just had now events on here our producer,
my you know, industry dad. He was so good, just
he was so good and it was so cool be
like to you know now, like knows all of our
stories and he watched us grow. But for us to
be able to be like, well, what's your story? We
(38:58):
want to hear him back in the day and to
even just hear the skill set that he has it
literally in his family, his aunt, his uncle, or being
showrunners and being like the forces behind so many iconic shows.
That was a cool thing. I had no idea. And
him talking about his wife, their story is so beautiful.
(39:19):
But that's how sometimes you gotta do. You gotta hit
these niggas upside the head and be like, look, bro,
I'm the one, okay, So you need to take this chance,
stef I don't faith and stop dating me and make
me your wife. Right. No, that was like super bossy
of her. She was like, look, you just stood with
me in the hospital for two weeks like it should.
Now you need to come give us a chance and right,
(39:40):
And she is so sweet. I absolutely loved, like, she's
so dope. But it's cool to hear how that came
about and she was really that calming force that sat
him down and was like, no, we're about to do
this because it seems like that's what he needed in
his life at that time time. What was the quote
he said is uncle said if you when you get
(40:02):
a wife, you'll be focused. Yes, once you get a wife,
like you'll you'll be settled and I guess just focused
on what you need to do. But it's it's the
truth when you think about it. Be like even thinking
like you know, let's say right now you were trying
to date around you wouldn't have the time for it.
It's like, right, it does take your energy and your
focus away from other things. So you know, right, right, right,
(40:25):
So when you have that one person, you're focused on
all the building and growing and pouring into each other together. Hello,
you know you have a goal, you have more focus.
You're just not looking out to lift and right up
down left you focus on that goal you know, with
with your significant other. So I love that. Yes, Like
you know, I didn't know all that about him. I'm
so glad I made his top five. I was saw
(40:47):
but see if it was you and B he would
have been like Vina, No, if Veena is here. He
would have had to like say all three and not
one of the person, all three of us, because you
know he wasn't gonna do two or not one. Now
he's like, but I really I would you know me, Like,
I'm not like what that stef sucked up? I'm like,
Justina is a fucking wlven out legend. I get it.
(41:08):
Thank you, sis, No, you were killing me. You were like,
all right, and don't forget about your favorite girl with
the finger holes, finger waves, blind hair poking at uh
you know Simone Joe for um. But no, what what
now said? It's true? Says like you're you know, you're
just your brand and just you as a person, like
(41:30):
your legendary and you've exceeded and done so much when
he put you on the list, like you're definitely deserving
of that. And like he said, it's not just about
the show, it's also about like everything you've done into exactly,
so like all that and that's what I feel about you.
Let me tell you out something about Justina. I don't
care how long she's been doing something. I don't care
(41:51):
how bomb, how bossy, how amazing she is at something.
Justina Valentine treats every single day like day won I
really value that you stand that and see that in you.
I don't care Like she doesn't get complacent, she doesn't
get comfortable. You see justine it in the workshops. This
bitch is in the corner on her own taking it.
(42:12):
I'm like, bitch, you can wrap relax. You're like relax,
You're like, no, I think we're wrapping about apples, Like
I gotta gets crazy, have an apple ready to school
tricks up my sleeve. That's out of me now. I
mean no, it's it's true being. I appreciate it, and
(42:33):
you know, I think it is part of it is that,
like I definitely am competitive, and also I'm just like
really thankful to be here. So I treat my I
don't I do treat my eleventh season like my first,
you know, And I think that's just what like makes
us great and has made us, you know, stand the
(42:53):
test of time on the show and even with just
what we do, because the truth is, like you know,
in the industries were in, it just is women got
to do more. We just have to do more. We
have to show improve more, and it is what it is.
And I'm just so grateful that like you and me
and v and and and Jess and all the women
on the show, like Mimi and Maddie, like we've just
(43:15):
all been able to grow and get along and right
and and and just run with it and support each
other and just be here and like you know what
generally has been like a male dominated field, and just
be killing it. And we've all made and carved out
our own space. So that's a blessing, and it is.
(43:36):
It is all thanks to Nick and Nil and the
whole team of producers on Wilding Out that have given
us the opportunity and we've taken it and and made
to work for us. So it is what it is.
I love you. I Love you. Episode was so good.
It was so like family, and y'all make sure now
(43:57):
I'll go to his social medias and stuff and bud
him And I'm just kidding. Don't bug him because he's
don't bug him too much because it's it's over for
this season. He's like, it's over. We chose who we chose. Yes,
he's like, stop d having me, stop emailing me. The
season's done. But yes, make sure you tune in because
(44:18):
season seventeen is currently playing every Tuesday and Wednesday, so
watch out for that and tune in every week to
the Women a While and Out podcast, where the ladies
controlled Mike put it down, do what we like and
that's how we do it. Love you guys, fine, peace,
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