November 30, 2021 • 40 mins
Show creator, and host, Nick Cannon joins the podcast again. Nick addresses the controversy surrounding his unorthodox relationship structures head on, and he shares what still motivates him to be so driven after so much success in life.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Women While and Out Podcast. You guys,
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Welcome to the Women While and Out Podcast. These guys
are the ladies and While and Out control somehow we're
boy to get your show. Hello ladies, tonight we're gonna
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have the women a while in our podcasts on the cars. Hi.
You guys, welcome back to the Women Whileing Out podcast.
It's your girl be someone. I'm here with my beautiful
co host Pretty TV and the beautiful While and Out
got us Chrystal Angelique here, Pretty Tasy and we got
the Boss on the show today. He didn't want episode
with us. He's like, please come back. I don't think
he's gonna grow up. But you know he's busy. He
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just had some babies and he got to be with
the skids. He's spen the time back and forth between
we and Ontario and are you that's where we're going?
I'm about to go. They had a muddle about to
go back to the city. What's in Atlanta? Smoke kids,
It's hilarious true. Um yeah, So we had the Boss
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back on the show. Nick Cannon. We were talking about
um black Yeah, I mean that's what we're actually talking about. Cleansing,
and you're doing a great job. You got core feel
over the corn feel is good. Yeah, it's good for you.
I was on it today. Yeah, finish its fruits and roots,
super healthy goddess. Yeah, I gotta be. I try to be.
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It's just so up and now I love it. It's
the consistency. There's a lifestyle. Yeah, a lot of people
ain't built for it. It's good to posts on Instagram
and look like you're doing, but like to actually live it. We'
you've been doing something for twenty nine years. In thirty years,
it's very difficult to change that. But yeah, I'm not
a vegan. I'm not classify myself. I say, to define
me is to confine me. So I'd rather be able
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to just say I try to eat healthy and try
to eat clean. What can we do that? As the toast?
Can you say that quote again? We usually start off
with the toast and we're gonna give each episode, so
we're gonna let you say that again, so the people
in the bat can hear it. To define me is
to confine me. To me is to disable me. Come on,
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so they're free what does it? What does it confine me?
Is to come fine? Me better? So from the jar?
So is that how we just jumped right into it?
Just pulled from the jar? Okay, you guys, you about
to get into the juice jar, the wilding out juice jar.
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What's in the juice? How you got a fresh, new,
full set of nails and we're supposed to be quarantine. Yeah,
Now I don't know how two weeks old? Yeah, her
three weeks old looked like she got hers done today?
Did they get it comported? Talking to me, Ray, I
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ain't got none. So you're talking to me you okay?
Questions I didn't get my toes? Then you did from
the show? Okay. Another says that shall not what I
have ever been involved in a situation ship staying with
someone because they have money? Absolutely, you was the one
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being stayed with the sta. I mean, I'm pretty sure
most of my relationships, you know, have been because of
my financial Yeah. Women exactly, the women first of all,
And we're gonna jump right in. Let's jump right into women.
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Most of the women, most of the women that I've
dealt with, like comfort. So if finance comes with comfort,
all of that comes together the lifestyle, the freedom of
having money I can orchest straight. So it's at the
root of it. It's still my finance because I can
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make your lifestyle comfortable. I can, I can whatever you need,
I can help provide, and that all goes back to finances. Yeah.
I never staid with a guy for money, but I
stay one for other things because a lot of the
things I have no money. But that's what I'm saying. Like,
and within comfort, that safety a man who can protect you. Man.
The comfort also comes with spiritual and mental comfort. So
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if he's like, oh he makes he makes me feel sex,
that's what it mostly is because got the best day
because charging it up, he don't give you his best
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kicked out. So obviously, you know, the majority of my
life I've probably been, you know, at the top of
the totem pole when it comes to being able to provid.
But you felt like you were being used for finances.
Oh wait, I'm gonna say most of every most of you,
you're okay with that, just because I feel like I
was put on this planet to be a provider, Like
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I'm not. I don't I don't mind being a generation
between a provider and somebody who's being used for their finances,
because it's called utilitarian love. There's several different certain types
of love. You know, there's there's a god a love,
which is godly love. That's all. That's how we're supposed
to all love each other, like you've heard me the
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spill before. Then there's philo love that's the Greek love
that's that's philosophy, the love of knowledge. That's where the
word family comes from Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love.
And then there's a ross that's the that's erotic, that's
the temporary, that's the chemical of love. And then there's
utilitarian love. That's usually the love that most of us
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can measure because I, oh, someone did something for me,
therefore they love me. Or I need yeah, exactly, that's
the love language. So if I need something from you
and you give it to me, then oh, man, that
showed love. And that's that's even from a child. That's
what we You know, when I need food and you
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give it to me, Oh, that's the person. So it
doesn't have to always be financial thought, but it's more
it's rooted in finances. That's why I always say women
don't care about looks or anything, because it's like men
are more superficial on that because we were like, oh
I see something pretty shiny. I wanted women feeling. You
made me feel comfortable, you made me feel safe, so
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I like so that's so that's where I'm comfortable with
being like, yo, I'm you use me in that sense
of utilitarian love. I'm the provider, I'm the generator there.
What do you use them? That's a good question. I
mean I usually I ask women from the gate like
other than your vagina, Like, let's take your vagina off
the table, what do you bring into this? And we
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talked about that and I got I probably presented a
little softer than they would but like, but that the course,
the same thing is like, especially from a man who
is a provider who can different things, But do you
require women around you to offer more because some men
don't care like you just pretty you just cool. Well,
that's what that's what you're there for. If that, if
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all you provided your vagina, then that's how we that's
our exchange got you and then that's the interaction. And
I'll see you. When I see you, I how at
you in and you're probably getting what you want from me.
As well. Wow much. But that's the thing. I've never
the maximum paid for sex. I don't even It's not
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like here's a couple of hundred thousand on the dress. Yeah,
but it's just like if there's a you know, if
there's a need or something like that. And even because
I would, that's why I say take I like taking
sex off the time, and then say what are we without?
What are we doing with your Yeah? And then that
can really define it because like if my friend needed
ten thousand dollars, I'm gonna make sure my friend got
ten thousands. Right, So I need to be your friends.
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You know. We talked to the boss. We heard some
good stuff. I help some people learned. But we'll be
right back after this break because already, how are you
guys looking back to the women? While on our podcast
we just had a break and we're back with Nick Cannon,
he was talking about reptilian love, ut utility, utility, utilitarian.
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When I have a bill, you pay the utility even exchange,
so you know all those definitions. I don't know, I
got to learn more about that. I'm just I'm over
in the I think, yeah, that's the one we all got, Okay,
what's the other one. There's a there's FeelA that's family
like love, that's how you love your family. There's a
ross that's the attraction, that's the chemical. They call it
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temporary love. And then but that's them when we feel that.
I saw our instant attraction drawn to that. So was
a little bit of all of its. Martin Luther King
said it best. It's like when you have every type
of love, that's the one love you so because you
need all of those things. That's where I actually first
heard it from because when he was like breaking it
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down and one of his signens, I was like, I
need to understand. Are you smarter than a rapper? I'm like,
how does he know this ship? But I'm like they
give him the answers. Not some of them, though, I'd
be like looking dumb, like I'm not good at math. Sure, OK.
And I took away too, and I added to a
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man I've always been especially to like I'm a musician,
so like all of that's math, but the part for
something about adding together, Yeah, it's so difficult for you
crazy fourth grade with I suck it man, But everything
else I guess because I never really had to use
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math everything else. So actually, I want to talk about
this real quick. I posted you on on my page.
Somebody else told me about blog. You know, Okay, I'll
let you explain it because I got the answer why
it was hating on you because I felt like they
posted yea, not even that I'm talking about just what
just happened. I felt like it was out of context
because they didn't know. They don't know our relationship. So
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god you, I think people, but I think people realize
that we ever post something on social media that I
thought we played all day on bad whatever. But the
shave one posted because I posted, look at this man.
You know, I'm cord Nick and the flags Nick. No,
we got the cameras out. It ain't like I'm sneaking them.
And I posted it on my page just still on
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my page. Um. But the statement was that he got
all these things. Look, he got all these damn baby
mamas and girls still want to phone. It's crazy to me,
you know whatever, But what was you gonna say? How
do you think they took it out? And I mean,
because that's always the topic of conversation for right now
with with me, and it's just like I'm welcome to
the conversation because obviously no one actually knows the personal
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scenarios and what they are. But I'm open for the
surface level conversation about whether it's like I just lived
my life in such an open way, in a freeway
that I don't really hide anything, so I feel like
I don't lie to the people I deal with. So
I feel like that is such bizarre behavior to society
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because we were in a society that's built on lies
and putting something forward to what we want to be
the truth. Like I I fall on my sword all
the time, Like I know I'm scarred, don't know I'm damaged.
I know I'm working on myself, and I know I
don't do things in an orthodox way, so I'll just
I mean, it is what it is. I just don't
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I do some fun sometimes, but I'm trying. It comes
from a place where like I'm trying to be as
pure as possible. But if I felt like if I
feel like I have such trust issues that if I
can and you did a lot, I wouldn't be able
to have any real relationships, I'm like, lookum, this is
what it is. I don't believe in monogamy. I've tried
it several times. Now, do you not believe in it
because you you have trust issues you and you were hurt,
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or do you not believe in it just because you
truly don't believe in it, or you don't believe in
it because I've tried and failed at it so many times.
I don't think I'm scared. I've definitely been hurt by
it um and that probably help design my philosophy in it.
But once I took the time to actually go study
it and see where it came from. Like to me,
it's a European concept of you know, kind of categorizing,
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categorizing property when you think about I mean, and I
don't want to get too because this is the type
of ship that give me in trouble. But it's just
like when you go from the origins of tribalism and
where we come from, those ideas of like your wealth
is your tribe, growing your family and all of that stuff,
and then then then when they got to a space
of like, yo, we have to control this process and
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we have to make sure that this family belongs to
this family, and this man's wife is an exchange for
this property, and what marriage was all designed for and
stuff like it gets a little creepy. So I'm like, look,
I actually believe the woman is so powerful that she
should not have to answer to any man or be
any man's property or soul individus. She can do what
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she want to do. I could do what I want
to do. And if together we match and we meet
each other at you know, some king queen's stuff, that's
how we rock. Yea. So my thing is so how
can me and you? And I think that's what people,
because I'll give people always get confused, like one thing
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I see, like, people like all of these women, how
does he like? I was like, look, you're stuck in
that mentality of thinking that I have these women operating
in the way that they operate anyone that I deal with,
I give them the autonomy to say, yo, you can
have whoever you want to be, what you could do,
whatever you want to do. I don't hold you, I
don't want, I don't want. I can't be responsible for
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your happiness. Your happiness comes from them. And then too,
I don't want to be I have some so much
reverence and respect for you that I know I can't
be the man that you deserve so at least let's
figure out what it is that you really want from me.
And I mean, I've had so many amazing women in
my life that they'd be like, yeah, no, I want
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the white picket, fince, I want the husband, I want
the ring, And I'm like, damn, I can't. I wish
I could be that for you, but I know I
would fail at that every time, and I would just
be lying to myself to say it's gonna just be me.
And and I feel like it sucks because a lot
of people measure that based off of love, like, oh,
you don't love me unless you know how to live
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this way. It's like the reason why they call it,
you know, monogamy, because it's money. That's just one way.
I feel like life gives us so many different ways
to operate. We've just because of society and group think,
we say this is the way we have to be.
And if you don't live the way that I think
you should live, then you're wrong. See I just talk
to my relationship coach by s Body, and she had
my mind straight. And now Nick comes in and I'm
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now looking for a girlfriend, so looking for I just
I'm keeping now in this case, like, oh yeah, I
mean I did. I try to check him every day.
You know, your ego his ego. So this is the thing.
And again I know I have my ego is fed
probably in a different way than most men. So I
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could probably be a little bit more vulnerable than others
because I can go do something. I can go do
a movie where I'm casting over in the movie, or
I could do something where so my ego gets fed
through my entertainment and my art. So then I don't
need my ego to get fed. And I mean, let's
keep it a stack. I've kind of been living this
lifestyle for so long. If I if I wanted to
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be ego ego, like, part of my ego fucked up
my marriage, part of my ego fucked up a lot
of my relationships because I was like, oh, I'm the
man on this and this, and I learned, I mean,
one of my my pastors of me like, if you
want your relationship to work, you gotta kill the ego.
And when you can remove the ego from the relationship,
and like God work your flesh, your flesh will never
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be able to lead. So but when you know that,
I know there's time for my ego. I know, like
a lot of times doing wilding out, that's my ego,
Like when the camera comes and like, look at that's
all of us. Look how heightened we get to be
with our egos when we're making jokes or like it's
literally a whole game called nick Cannon is so fly,
Like that's all ego, you know, I mean, but it's
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so much ego that I could turn it on my
head and be the butt of the joke because I'm
so in tuned with with who I am. I'm comfortable
with all of the jokes because my ego has reached
the heights that I could talk that talk with anybody.
I can talk money talk, I can talk girls, I
could talk at all. But I've gotten to a place
now where I so want to provide for others that
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I don't. I rarely get caught up an ego nowadays,
Like even when I see it, I check it instantly,
like that's part of your purpose. Now now that I
know a little bit more about what my purpose is,
and that's where I like, the chatter and the low
frequency doesn't matter to me anymore. I used to be
so concerned about what people were saying on Twitter and
on Facebook today until I've had the bird's eye view
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of like what are they gonna say when I'm gone?
And that's a different conversations and like fuck you today,
and I've seen it happen. I've seen people trash d
m X every single day as soon as he's doing here.
He's the greatest. I see people trash, tupot call them
all type of things. But he's there, you know what
I mean. It's like, so I'm like, I'm planning for that.
You say what you want to say, Well, I'm here.
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I'm planning because I had my legacy, um flowers. I
think your flowers are definitely old. While you're here, Nick,
I think you know you're you're you. I recognize you.
Your work doesn't gonna notice over here. And I think
all over the world, what do you feel like you
get your flowers from? I'll tell people like this, I
don't want no flowers. I want if you've got flowers,
planning them, because that's really what and that's what I see.
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And y'all seeing all y'all here like instead of just
saying because especially I don't even y'all saw me, yes,
like I'm awkward when people tell me thank you, and
because I'm awkward in those moments because I don't feel
like I deserve it. You know, the prey should be
to the most high ends of the almighty, so like
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I'm just a vessel, so like I don't feel like
I deserve that. So I get really awkward. Come on,
let's just go like but has used in ways utilitarian,
but in that sense, I really feel like when I
see you guys, like it's just the platform keep going
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doing you because that, at the end of the day
makes me feel like, oh, they appreciated what we did.
They appreciate it. Open those doors and they weren't talking.
Because there's nothing more frustrating than someone who's who has
the ability to put different people in position. I put
so many people with so much talent position they just
don't do nothing and like time effort and money spent,
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like man, and I wish this person understood the opportunity
that they had. We definitely appreciate just want to put
that out there. Yeah, And that's where that's where I
was like, Okay, they get it. They And that's so
I always say, Yo, take the flowers you want to
give me and plan them. So the next people can
beautiful continue so we can do this harvest beautiful more
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about to tear, don't. I'm just amazed because the thing
about it is like, of course we've watched him from
ye high. I don't even know what we was watching,
but we was watching this on every movie, every show,
and just to have him as a you know, as
our boss, as someone that looks you know, to us,
for the jokes, that looks you know, us, for the
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laughter he has. I mean, like we said plenty of
times we should have won, plenty of times we should
have did this. But call this man crying, you know, literally,
you call him crying. I've been I tell him thank
you through a d M a chance I get just
just thank you, checking in on you. Because we know
how the mind plays, we know how the enemy comes
to attack, and we some as we know that we're
so like on a little shell and in our bubble,
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like we know that you could you could get awkward
when the when you telling when people someone telling you
thank you so much, and they could be like, why
are you thinking me? Like I'm here to just do
this without you know, but you just deserves all the
love and everything you appreciate it, and you know what,
it's probably another reason why it's awkward for me because
I have such tunnel vision and I feel like, yeah,
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like I don't really sell Like it's almost like I
don't celebrate holidays. I don't like to me, I'm so
grateful for life and feel like every day I wake up,
it's like, all right, this is a blessing. It's another
way to try to figure it out, to keep going
that if I sit back and think about it, I
feel like the devil catching up with me. That to comfortable,
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and I've seen it happen to so many other people.
They start believing the height, they start really thinking like, oh,
they're the ship. Oh I think I can chill out?
Are you talking about Ago? Used like I'm just even
with this new season. I mean, it was so much
going into like even one't even wanting to be here,
so that a little bit it was. I mean, obviously
we all know know what happened, and I feel like
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a lot of it came the surface to where it's
like why am I doing this? You know what? I mean?
There was and just to not even get too much
into the business, but I have I've owned wilding out
for the majority of the time that has been on air.
And then we did some business deals and you know,
me and viacom locked in made some really smart decisions. Uh.
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And then when that came up, people that I thought
were my team, my squad, even people literally sitting next
to me, started changing, started acting different. I'm like, started
second guessing my motives and who I was. And I'm like, character, Yeah,
we're really talking about my character here. Well we're gonna
talk about character. Let's open all the books up and
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talk about character. But and even like not that's true,
but not like pointing fingers, but it kind of opened
my eyes. Always I said, this was a kaleidoscope of
character revelation for me. And when you think about class
a whole bunch of different colors, you see people's true colors.
And um, I think I always quote one Luther King,
but he always said, like you could tell the true
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character of a man not in times of comfort, but
during the times of contractions. And that's when you see
who's really rocking with you. When you see I mean
you you dealt with it too. You see where people
still feel like they think they could tell you. Are
you wrong? You just need it. You are you need it.
But I'm like, yo, hold lo, and and why do
you believe I'm wrong? But why do you? And and
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people that you feel like you You know, I've been
at Viacom since I was a teenager, you know what
I mean. And I found that's a long time. But
I found myself having conversations like, man, I never thought
I would have this conversation with this person. I never
thought so through that when whatever reconciliation came around, I
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was ready to walk away. I was like, no, that
season is closed. I'm done. I have so many more
amazing things. And then I started having conversations. I'm like, man,
this is we built something here. It was a family,
it was a legacy that was important not just on
a business aspect, but to the culture. And that's when
I was like, all right, well, if we're gonna do it,
we gotta do it the right way. We gotta do
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it on on our terms. We have to do it
to where we could do stuff like this, where others
can eat, we can plant multiple seeds. Because I don't
want people again, I'm not here for a while, and
out from my ego, I didn't even create I created
it for others, my friends, and so like it was
never about the bad. There wasn't amount of money they
can give me or however those closed door conversations happened.
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I let everybody know it's saying about money, like I've
walked away from n I walked away from I walked
away from money so many times. And that's just because
I know who I am, and I stand firm and
who I am. So that's currency is energy, and I
know I got everything is just everything happens for a reason,
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and I think it put us in a better place.
So if I was that, you know, I even said
that to a lot of these conversations. I started off,
if this can bring people closer together and bring more understanding,
I'll be that sacrifice, like and we made, we made
some great sacrifice. We all had to sit on the
bench for a whole year to get to a space
where it's like, all right, now, let's get it, let's
get it right and do it bigger and better than ever.
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So since um, since the I definitely want to say
something to you, but since you know, we we see
the world opening back up. We got toys back outside
all that, so Nick coming back, uh and again like
with the thing of what I've been trying to do
with what we saw this season, and even you know,
I'm already planning for the next two seasons. It's that
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festival energy exactly. So we're gonna be are all of
our tour dates we're doing now hopefully like before we
would do arenas get like twenty people in there. Now
we're trying to get like fifty sixty thousand take it around.
When literally when I got the email Nick and I
said to you, I said, this is real. It is real,
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you know, she said, Shine Queens, I thank you for that,
because I was like, I said, rip, you got this
one one. Come out there with Martin Lawrence and all
that I was not inviting. We will get to the truth,
mart I would say, Ross get invited. I wasn't whatever.
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Tell the people the truth. I'll tell you. You tell
your girls the truth telling you not invited, And I
am about to cry the way it got to me,
it is like, Yo, she's on tour playing telephone town
people involved. I was not on tour. You came up
for the one show that you think that I was
invited on one show. We want you for more so
(25:55):
let's just right, don't you go when it might meet
this If you don't see her now that means her people,
So you tell me. But I do have a question, Um,
this is the last question real quick, something serious. Why
have I never been invited to be a while and
out girl? Well now the goddess is just you know,
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they were excey'a can get an they're hilarious, like and
I used Amber Diamond as an example, because there's there's
I get those questions on both sides. I get a
lot of the goddesses asking, you know, they want to
be on the cash, and then I get a lot
of like, y'all like just hilarious, brought that up to
like I want to be up there, And it's like whatever, whatever,
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you whatever your ministries, go ahead and do you. But honestly, yeah,
like those boots just episode. Yeah, I literally been. I
just think about dancing all the time, like all that
cute ship. Sometimes I'd be like no shapery, yeah, but
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that's I mean, it's I feel like there's everyone has
a gift, everybody has an ability, you know. Sometimes that's
why I want to show people that the wilding out
Goddesses are more than just to faces. You know, Breth
was owning some class for a million billions of dollars
in that account. I love us every day, and just
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a lot of people know that not all the Wilding
Out goddesses are your baby mama's. Let's get it out
there now. You know it's funny too, and it's it's
so interesting that for some reason that's always been the
joke from like season one. But I've attempted, you know,
most of the time, to to kind of keep it
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as professional as possible, just because, I mean, especially the
climate that we live in now to where I want,
I mean, I think just who I am. I'm not
I don't chase women. Okay, so real quick, we only
got a couple say, how would you talk to her?
Like if I'm gonna are we coming back? Right? Because
it more than answer that stay too, more than I'm
(28:20):
gonna bailing out podcast is got nick. Let's come, let's
go alright, guys, we are back with the women of
Wilding Out Podcasts, and we are about to see Mr
Cannon holler at I can't wait. So the question was,
if we didn't know each other and we saw and
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her hair was done, you know. It's interesting because I'm
not a person who chases women. I don't know how
to holler women like I don't let your home, you know,
I don't do that if you were really if I'm
really interested in one, I feel like the nightclub is
(29:01):
not the right environment, not see just like I'm playing
my money and oft play Like I got that, I
probably would be more likely to engage with someone in
a church set. Okay, what about see if it was
(29:21):
on the set of Wild Yeah, no, no, no no, like
if you were a guest, because I've definitely done this,
Like if somebody was a guest on the show, I
get all. So first of all, I would make sure
I knew. I would talk to your people and I
was like, Yo, what are the things that she likes?
What you know you did that to my manager? And
when you would go when you would go into your
(29:43):
dressing room, it would be a custom basket with your
favorite perfume, a scarf from your favorite designer. And then
like if a handwritten note like yo, I heard you
like this, I just want to make sure you're comfortable
got your first night that I would just try to
pay attention to those. And then because I feel like
I would be comfortable because I'm in my home second,
(30:04):
so I will make and then I would go Yeah,
I would go above and beyond whatever p A was
in charge of taking care of you getting you from
the car, I would be like, yo, hit me when
she pull up. That's all you have insight that she
did all day. He ain't gotta work. He already know
(30:24):
what am I at a concer and you're just like
all the friends, all the girls come like, not at that,
but at a concert. Take yourself out of just wilding,
not on set somewhere else but your confort You gotta
do it on your own. I'm gonna keep it say
it's been a long time since I've had to do.
Because also I'm very patient. So if if somebody that
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I do like, I like her, I'm not in a rush.
H she gonna come to my house eventually, Yes, like
the other one next week, I would really try to
genuinely get to know that person. And for me, and
maybe I'm wrong, lady, I feel like you guys have
(31:11):
dudes constantly at you all the time. If I can
authentically show interest without trying to holler at you, I
feel like I probably have a better chance than a dude,
Like when can we hang out with women that are
just cute? Or do you do with women that you
only like as people? I'm gonna be like, do you
(31:31):
have one as a trophy? You got the other one
that's like girl, your conversation, but your head is horrible
like that pussy good, but be quiet. Never met I never.
I haven't met a person that you don't like. Don't
say that. Let me go back and met a beautiful god.
I'm trying to keep it a stack. Um, I don't.
(31:51):
I haven't had any new friends in years, friends, you know,
And That's what I'm saying, like not even on something
just like homies, like I don't want. I so understood
when Drake said no new friends, and I'm like, I
get that because I'm still building and dealing with the
relationships I had trying to convince this one I'm gonna
be I'm gonna after being married. And that's the other
(32:13):
reason why, you know, monogamy is such an interesting concept
for me because I feel like I did it at
the highest level and then it's like what else do
you do after that? It's like from that point I
became a different person after my divorce them like, okay,
let's not make it about me and fulfilling what I
want in my desires. How can I help others? There
has to be I got everything I ever. I have
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my dream girl dream. We got married and had a
wedding every year for damn here seven years, and it
was always fun. It was like it was never a
dull moment. So I'm like, all right, now that I've
had every fantasy and dream that I could have, how
can I help others in that space? And that's really
where so I have Yeah, so like I don't even know.
(32:57):
I don't holler at people. I don't I don't desire,
but who I want to meet such and such as,
like if the universe brings it across, like let me
figure out what this is supposed to be. But my
own personal desires I'm kind of over there. And that
probably is one of the reasons why there's several baby
mamas and all that stuff, because it's never like I'm
not going into it looking like what I want them, Like, oh,
(33:18):
this person is looking for this, all right, Maybe I'm
the vessel for this person's life for that moment, so beautiful,
But thank you for me in the vessel of my life.
But that I mean, I don't know if that answered
the question, but I'm trying to bullshit my way around it.
But that literally is where I am in my life.
It's like I don't have any structure in that sense
(33:41):
of like what I want because I don't really I
try again, we all got egos. I try not to
make it about me. Are you religious or spiritual? Like
I used to be religious. I'm a p K. So
I was crazy my dad, and I mean, you know
I was. I was hit in the church. That was
(34:01):
the annoying, rambunctious little kid that he can nobody tell
him what to do because that's past. Yeah, all of that,
like you know, moving around, but also at the highest
level then you know my dad when he was just
struggling and having you know, the public access television show
with no members and all of that type of stuff.
So I saw every aspect of that. And because of that,
(34:24):
I have a disdain for religion. I don't like it.
I don't trust it. Um as as much as I
love spirituality. UM Monotheism is anything with the word mono
in it. I don't like all that because when it's
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just like We're not uh a monolithic people, you know
what I mean, We're not. Everybody can't be one thing,
everybody can't desire the same, everybody takes a different course.
So when I explained spirituality, when I experience relationships with
the most high, I kind of put it in the
same sense of like cell phone carriers, you know what
I mean. You can have Verizon, you can have Sprint,
(35:11):
but as as long as you're connect, long as you connected,
for am I to say that your service ain't working
for you. So I feel like if you're truly in tuning,
in touch with God, and there's a lot of I
would say there's a lot of almost like there's there's
some philosophies within Sikhism and as well as a uh
Buddhist understandings to where it's difficult to put a curriculum
(35:37):
on how you deal with God, especially if it comes
from within. So I'd rather step back and say, whatever
is working for you, do you But I'm seeking understanding
in peace. So I know every Yeah, I know every
book of the Bible and beside all the verses, but
I also know where that stuff comes from. And I've
(35:58):
also you know, having a degree in in divinity you
when you go that deep, you're like, oh, that's where
that came from. Oh, that's why we believe that. And
then when you break it down, it's just a lot
of ritualism, traditions. There's some things in the Bible that
I was and like, I love it, you know what
(36:18):
I mean, because I was raised in I believe there's
some truth in it. But then when you get to
that space when you say where all religion comes from,
and it starts and the stars, and it starts from
the ideas, and you know, where's the concept of christ
consciousness actually begin, and you kind of break that stuff down,
it's like, ultimately you can get to the space where
everybody's right or everybody's wrong. So and it's like it's like, really,
(36:42):
what's working for you? So that's why I like religion
because especially and you know, like there's twenty six thousand
different sects of Christianity, and it's like, how can you
have twenty six thousand? Uh? But but again, if we're
all saying the same thing when you when you hear
about you know, whether it's Krishna or whether it's you know, uh,
(37:06):
can isis and all of those things and like when
Lucifer being Jupiter, Saturn being Satan, all of these types
of things that kind of all point to the same origin,
Abrahamic faiths, and all of that stuff comes from it
comes from the same nucleus. So I never understood why
(37:27):
people couldn't focus on our similarities instead of focusing on
our differences. And y'all hear how these words as managed
us it. He don't know two plus two a nuclear
You asked him two plus T minus too. I don't
know what it is. I can't repeat that. I said
(37:49):
two plus plas something happens in my mind with man.
That's why the car never been my friend. I think
it's definitely cognitive dissonance though, So, like you know, from
the foundation, you learn certain things and then you're at
a certain place in your life and you're like, I
(38:09):
learned this, but you're conflicting me with this information. I'm
going to trust what I learned from people. Times, you
gotta trust what you feel, whether this that whatever you're feeling,
Like you say that internal pieces all that matters. When
you have internal peace, you can live your life. And
I used to That's my problem and even probably one
of the reasons why I got in trouble. And you know,
(38:29):
even my Cannons class Um podcast, I used to want
to show people I was smart, show people I got
a degree, I'm educated, and that ship got me in trouble,
even in my interview style because I would be like, oh,
I'm sitting down with Dr Carr, I'm sitting down with
Dr Umar and I'm like, yeah, I know just as
much as you know. I know that, And then I'm like,
(38:50):
but why am I regurgitating like y'all could learn some
more about just listening and I'm talking so over That's
probably where That's how I evolved over the last year
or two. It was like, sometimes need to just let
the ego go, sit back and listen, and I don't
have to prove how smart I am. I don't have
to prove how many books I read. I'm just going
to continue learning, you know, And we're gonna love on
(39:10):
you because at the end of the day, you are
you are because you are investal and to let God
continue to use you in all the ways possible. But
thank you Nick so much for sliding and you know,
giving us some knowledge and we love you so much.
You know, um, you deserve someone I love on you.
I don't care if you like five or ten of
(39:31):
the same people. Don't you know, we're gonna love on
you regardless. So thank you Nick. Again. We're about to
get into this quote, y'all, this this racialive, whatever you feel,
that's because I don't know. As much as I talked
to say I have a disdain for religion. I always
go back to that powerful book that just allows us
(39:52):
to operate because we all can find synergy and it's
wisdom in it. So in Romans, it says, and if
God before us can be against us, And when you
operate with the God within you and know that God
is within you, that there's no obstacle that you can't overcome.
In y'all people right now to keep shining so much,
(40:12):
bring you can't. Nobody stopped the Goddess already. And no,
we love you so much. This is the Woman of
Wilding Up Podcast. See you next time. We love you. Bye,
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(00:23):
have the women a while in our podcasts on the cars. Hi.
You guys, welcome back to the Women Whileing Out podcast.
It's your girl be someone. I'm here with my beautiful
co host Pretty TV and the beautiful While and Out
got us Chrystal Angelique here, Pretty Tasy and we got
the Boss on the show today. He didn't want episode
with us. He's like, please come back. I don't think
he's gonna grow up. But you know he's busy. He
(00:44):
just had some babies and he got to be with
the skids. He's spen the time back and forth between
we and Ontario and are you that's where we're going?
I'm about to go. They had a muddle about to
go back to the city. What's in Atlanta? Smoke kids,
It's hilarious true. Um yeah, So we had the Boss
(01:05):
back on the show. Nick Cannon. We were talking about
um black Yeah, I mean that's what we're actually talking about. Cleansing,
and you're doing a great job. You got core feel
over the corn feel is good. Yeah, it's good for you.
I was on it today. Yeah, finish its fruits and roots,
super healthy goddess. Yeah, I gotta be. I try to be.
(01:26):
It's just so up and now I love it. It's
the consistency. There's a lifestyle. Yeah, a lot of people
ain't built for it. It's good to posts on Instagram
and look like you're doing, but like to actually live it. We'
you've been doing something for twenty nine years. In thirty years,
it's very difficult to change that. But yeah, I'm not
a vegan. I'm not classify myself. I say, to define
me is to confine me. So I'd rather be able
(01:49):
to just say I try to eat healthy and try
to eat clean. What can we do that? As the toast?
Can you say that quote again? We usually start off
with the toast and we're gonna give each episode, so
we're gonna let you say that again, so the people
in the bat can hear it. To define me is
to confine me. To me is to disable me. Come on,
(02:09):
so they're free what does it? What does it confine me?
Is to come fine? Me better? So from the jar?
So is that how we just jumped right into it?
Just pulled from the jar? Okay, you guys, you about
to get into the juice jar, the wilding out juice jar.
(02:32):
What's in the juice? How you got a fresh, new,
full set of nails and we're supposed to be quarantine. Yeah,
Now I don't know how two weeks old? Yeah, her
three weeks old looked like she got hers done today?
Did they get it comported? Talking to me, Ray, I
(02:56):
ain't got none. So you're talking to me you okay?
Questions I didn't get my toes? Then you did from
the show? Okay. Another says that shall not what I
have ever been involved in a situation ship staying with
someone because they have money? Absolutely, you was the one
(03:20):
being stayed with the sta. I mean, I'm pretty sure
most of my relationships, you know, have been because of
my financial Yeah. Women exactly, the women first of all,
And we're gonna jump right in. Let's jump right into women.
(03:43):
Most of the women, most of the women that I've
dealt with, like comfort. So if finance comes with comfort,
all of that comes together the lifestyle, the freedom of
having money I can orchest straight. So it's at the
root of it. It's still my finance because I can
(04:03):
make your lifestyle comfortable. I can, I can whatever you need,
I can help provide, and that all goes back to finances. Yeah.
I never staid with a guy for money, but I
stay one for other things because a lot of the
things I have no money. But that's what I'm saying. Like,
and within comfort, that safety a man who can protect you. Man.
The comfort also comes with spiritual and mental comfort. So
(04:26):
if he's like, oh he makes he makes me feel sex,
that's what it mostly is because got the best day
because charging it up, he don't give you his best
(04:49):
kicked out. So obviously, you know, the majority of my
life I've probably been, you know, at the top of
the totem pole when it comes to being able to provid.
But you felt like you were being used for finances.
Oh wait, I'm gonna say most of every most of you,
you're okay with that, just because I feel like I
was put on this planet to be a provider, Like
(05:09):
I'm not. I don't I don't mind being a generation
between a provider and somebody who's being used for their finances,
because it's called utilitarian love. There's several different certain types
of love. You know, there's there's a god a love,
which is godly love. That's all. That's how we're supposed
to all love each other, like you've heard me the
(05:29):
spill before. Then there's philo love that's the Greek love
that's that's philosophy, the love of knowledge. That's where the
word family comes from Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love.
And then there's a ross that's the that's erotic, that's
the temporary, that's the chemical of love. And then there's
utilitarian love. That's usually the love that most of us
(05:53):
can measure because I, oh, someone did something for me,
therefore they love me. Or I need yeah, exactly, that's
the love language. So if I need something from you
and you give it to me, then oh, man, that
showed love. And that's that's even from a child. That's
what we You know, when I need food and you
(06:13):
give it to me, Oh, that's the person. So it
doesn't have to always be financial thought, but it's more
it's rooted in finances. That's why I always say women
don't care about looks or anything, because it's like men
are more superficial on that because we were like, oh
I see something pretty shiny. I wanted women feeling. You
made me feel comfortable, you made me feel safe, so
(06:33):
I like so that's so that's where I'm comfortable with
being like, yo, I'm you use me in that sense
of utilitarian love. I'm the provider, I'm the generator there.
What do you use them? That's a good question. I
mean I usually I ask women from the gate like
other than your vagina, Like, let's take your vagina off
the table, what do you bring into this? And we
(06:57):
talked about that and I got I probably presented a
little softer than they would but like, but that the course,
the same thing is like, especially from a man who
is a provider who can different things, But do you
require women around you to offer more because some men
don't care like you just pretty you just cool. Well,
that's what that's what you're there for. If that, if
(07:19):
all you provided your vagina, then that's how we that's
our exchange got you and then that's the interaction. And
I'll see you. When I see you, I how at
you in and you're probably getting what you want from me.
As well. Wow much. But that's the thing. I've never
the maximum paid for sex. I don't even It's not
(07:39):
like here's a couple of hundred thousand on the dress. Yeah,
but it's just like if there's a you know, if
there's a need or something like that. And even because
I would, that's why I say take I like taking
sex off the time, and then say what are we without?
What are we doing with your Yeah? And then that
can really define it because like if my friend needed
ten thousand dollars, I'm gonna make sure my friend got
ten thousands. Right, So I need to be your friends.
(08:03):
You know. We talked to the boss. We heard some
good stuff. I help some people learned. But we'll be
right back after this break because already, how are you
guys looking back to the women? While on our podcast
we just had a break and we're back with Nick Cannon,
he was talking about reptilian love, ut utility, utility, utilitarian.
(08:35):
When I have a bill, you pay the utility even exchange,
so you know all those definitions. I don't know, I
got to learn more about that. I'm just I'm over
in the I think, yeah, that's the one we all got, Okay,
what's the other one. There's a there's FeelA that's family
like love, that's how you love your family. There's a
ross that's the attraction, that's the chemical. They call it
(08:56):
temporary love. And then but that's them when we feel that.
I saw our instant attraction drawn to that. So was
a little bit of all of its. Martin Luther King
said it best. It's like when you have every type
of love, that's the one love you so because you
need all of those things. That's where I actually first
heard it from because when he was like breaking it
(09:17):
down and one of his signens, I was like, I
need to understand. Are you smarter than a rapper? I'm like,
how does he know this ship? But I'm like they
give him the answers. Not some of them, though, I'd
be like looking dumb, like I'm not good at math. Sure, OK.
And I took away too, and I added to a
(09:39):
man I've always been especially to like I'm a musician,
so like all of that's math, but the part for
something about adding together, Yeah, it's so difficult for you
crazy fourth grade with I suck it man, But everything
else I guess because I never really had to use
(10:01):
math everything else. So actually, I want to talk about
this real quick. I posted you on on my page.
Somebody else told me about blog. You know, Okay, I'll
let you explain it because I got the answer why
it was hating on you because I felt like they
posted yea, not even that I'm talking about just what
just happened. I felt like it was out of context
because they didn't know. They don't know our relationship. So
(10:24):
god you, I think people, but I think people realize
that we ever post something on social media that I
thought we played all day on bad whatever. But the
shave one posted because I posted, look at this man.
You know, I'm cord Nick and the flags Nick. No,
we got the cameras out. It ain't like I'm sneaking them.
And I posted it on my page just still on
(10:45):
my page. Um. But the statement was that he got
all these things. Look, he got all these damn baby
mamas and girls still want to phone. It's crazy to me,
you know whatever, But what was you gonna say? How
do you think they took it out? And I mean,
because that's always the topic of conversation for right now
with with me, and it's just like I'm welcome to
the conversation because obviously no one actually knows the personal
(11:07):
scenarios and what they are. But I'm open for the
surface level conversation about whether it's like I just lived
my life in such an open way, in a freeway
that I don't really hide anything, so I feel like
I don't lie to the people I deal with. So
I feel like that is such bizarre behavior to society
(11:27):
because we were in a society that's built on lies
and putting something forward to what we want to be
the truth. Like I I fall on my sword all
the time, Like I know I'm scarred, don't know I'm damaged.
I know I'm working on myself, and I know I
don't do things in an orthodox way, so I'll just
I mean, it is what it is. I just don't
(11:49):
I do some fun sometimes, but I'm trying. It comes
from a place where like I'm trying to be as
pure as possible. But if I felt like if I
feel like I have such trust issues that if I
can and you did a lot, I wouldn't be able
to have any real relationships, I'm like, lookum, this is
what it is. I don't believe in monogamy. I've tried
it several times. Now, do you not believe in it
because you you have trust issues you and you were hurt,
(12:12):
or do you not believe in it just because you
truly don't believe in it, or you don't believe in
it because I've tried and failed at it so many times.
I don't think I'm scared. I've definitely been hurt by
it um and that probably help design my philosophy in it.
But once I took the time to actually go study
it and see where it came from. Like to me,
it's a European concept of you know, kind of categorizing,
(12:36):
categorizing property when you think about I mean, and I
don't want to get too because this is the type
of ship that give me in trouble. But it's just
like when you go from the origins of tribalism and
where we come from, those ideas of like your wealth
is your tribe, growing your family and all of that stuff,
and then then then when they got to a space
of like, yo, we have to control this process and
(12:57):
we have to make sure that this family belongs to
this family, and this man's wife is an exchange for
this property, and what marriage was all designed for and
stuff like it gets a little creepy. So I'm like, look,
I actually believe the woman is so powerful that she
should not have to answer to any man or be
any man's property or soul individus. She can do what
(13:18):
she want to do. I could do what I want
to do. And if together we match and we meet
each other at you know, some king queen's stuff, that's
how we rock. Yea. So my thing is so how
can me and you? And I think that's what people,
because I'll give people always get confused, like one thing
(13:38):
I see, like, people like all of these women, how
does he like? I was like, look, you're stuck in
that mentality of thinking that I have these women operating
in the way that they operate anyone that I deal with,
I give them the autonomy to say, yo, you can
have whoever you want to be, what you could do,
whatever you want to do. I don't hold you, I
don't want, I don't want. I can't be responsible for
(14:00):
your happiness. Your happiness comes from them. And then too,
I don't want to be I have some so much
reverence and respect for you that I know I can't
be the man that you deserve so at least let's
figure out what it is that you really want from me.
And I mean, I've had so many amazing women in
my life that they'd be like, yeah, no, I want
(14:21):
the white picket, fince, I want the husband, I want
the ring, And I'm like, damn, I can't. I wish
I could be that for you, but I know I
would fail at that every time, and I would just
be lying to myself to say it's gonna just be me.
And and I feel like it sucks because a lot
of people measure that based off of love, like, oh,
you don't love me unless you know how to live
(14:41):
this way. It's like the reason why they call it,
you know, monogamy, because it's money. That's just one way.
I feel like life gives us so many different ways
to operate. We've just because of society and group think,
we say this is the way we have to be.
And if you don't live the way that I think
you should live, then you're wrong. See I just talk
to my relationship coach by s Body, and she had
my mind straight. And now Nick comes in and I'm
(15:03):
now looking for a girlfriend, so looking for I just
I'm keeping now in this case, like, oh yeah, I
mean I did. I try to check him every day.
You know, your ego his ego. So this is the thing.
And again I know I have my ego is fed
probably in a different way than most men. So I
(15:24):
could probably be a little bit more vulnerable than others
because I can go do something. I can go do
a movie where I'm casting over in the movie, or
I could do something where so my ego gets fed
through my entertainment and my art. So then I don't
need my ego to get fed. And I mean, let's
keep it a stack. I've kind of been living this
lifestyle for so long. If I if I wanted to
(15:46):
be ego ego, like, part of my ego fucked up
my marriage, part of my ego fucked up a lot
of my relationships because I was like, oh, I'm the
man on this and this, and I learned, I mean,
one of my my pastors of me like, if you
want your relationship to work, you gotta kill the ego.
And when you can remove the ego from the relationship,
and like God work your flesh, your flesh will never
(16:10):
be able to lead. So but when you know that,
I know there's time for my ego. I know, like
a lot of times doing wilding out, that's my ego,
Like when the camera comes and like, look at that's
all of us. Look how heightened we get to be
with our egos when we're making jokes or like it's
literally a whole game called nick Cannon is so fly,
Like that's all ego, you know, I mean, but it's
(16:31):
so much ego that I could turn it on my
head and be the butt of the joke because I'm
so in tuned with with who I am. I'm comfortable
with all of the jokes because my ego has reached
the heights that I could talk that talk with anybody.
I can talk money talk, I can talk girls, I
could talk at all. But I've gotten to a place
now where I so want to provide for others that
(16:52):
I don't. I rarely get caught up an ego nowadays,
Like even when I see it, I check it instantly,
like that's part of your purpose. Now now that I
know a little bit more about what my purpose is,
and that's where I like, the chatter and the low
frequency doesn't matter to me anymore. I used to be
so concerned about what people were saying on Twitter and
on Facebook today until I've had the bird's eye view
(17:14):
of like what are they gonna say when I'm gone?
And that's a different conversations and like fuck you today,
and I've seen it happen. I've seen people trash d
m X every single day as soon as he's doing here.
He's the greatest. I see people trash, tupot call them
all type of things. But he's there, you know what
I mean. It's like, so I'm like, I'm planning for that.
You say what you want to say, Well, I'm here.
(17:35):
I'm planning because I had my legacy, um flowers. I
think your flowers are definitely old. While you're here, Nick,
I think you know you're you're you. I recognize you.
Your work doesn't gonna notice over here. And I think
all over the world, what do you feel like you
get your flowers from? I'll tell people like this, I
don't want no flowers. I want if you've got flowers,
planning them, because that's really what and that's what I see.
(17:57):
And y'all seeing all y'all here like instead of just
saying because especially I don't even y'all saw me, yes,
like I'm awkward when people tell me thank you, and
because I'm awkward in those moments because I don't feel
like I deserve it. You know, the prey should be
to the most high ends of the almighty, so like
(18:17):
I'm just a vessel, so like I don't feel like
I deserve that. So I get really awkward. Come on,
let's just go like but has used in ways utilitarian,
but in that sense, I really feel like when I
see you guys, like it's just the platform keep going
(18:39):
doing you because that, at the end of the day
makes me feel like, oh, they appreciated what we did.
They appreciate it. Open those doors and they weren't talking.
Because there's nothing more frustrating than someone who's who has
the ability to put different people in position. I put
so many people with so much talent position they just
don't do nothing and like time effort and money spent,
(18:59):
like man, and I wish this person understood the opportunity
that they had. We definitely appreciate just want to put
that out there. Yeah, And that's where that's where I
was like, Okay, they get it. They And that's so
I always say, Yo, take the flowers you want to
give me and plan them. So the next people can
beautiful continue so we can do this harvest beautiful more
(19:19):
about to tear, don't. I'm just amazed because the thing
about it is like, of course we've watched him from
ye high. I don't even know what we was watching,
but we was watching this on every movie, every show,
and just to have him as a you know, as
our boss, as someone that looks you know, to us,
for the jokes, that looks you know, us, for the
(19:42):
laughter he has. I mean, like we said plenty of
times we should have won, plenty of times we should
have did this. But call this man crying, you know, literally,
you call him crying. I've been I tell him thank
you through a d M a chance I get just
just thank you, checking in on you. Because we know
how the mind plays, we know how the enemy comes
to attack, and we some as we know that we're
so like on a little shell and in our bubble,
(20:04):
like we know that you could you could get awkward
when the when you telling when people someone telling you
thank you so much, and they could be like, why
are you thinking me? Like I'm here to just do
this without you know, but you just deserves all the
love and everything you appreciate it, and you know what,
it's probably another reason why it's awkward for me because
I have such tunnel vision and I feel like, yeah,
(20:25):
like I don't really sell Like it's almost like I
don't celebrate holidays. I don't like to me, I'm so
grateful for life and feel like every day I wake up,
it's like, all right, this is a blessing. It's another
way to try to figure it out, to keep going
that if I sit back and think about it, I
feel like the devil catching up with me. That to comfortable,
(20:49):
and I've seen it happen to so many other people.
They start believing the height, they start really thinking like, oh,
they're the ship. Oh I think I can chill out?
Are you talking about Ago? Used like I'm just even
with this new season. I mean, it was so much
going into like even one't even wanting to be here,
so that a little bit it was. I mean, obviously
we all know know what happened, and I feel like
(21:11):
a lot of it came the surface to where it's
like why am I doing this? You know what? I mean?
There was and just to not even get too much
into the business, but I have I've owned wilding out
for the majority of the time that has been on air.
And then we did some business deals and you know,
me and viacom locked in made some really smart decisions. Uh.
(21:32):
And then when that came up, people that I thought
were my team, my squad, even people literally sitting next
to me, started changing, started acting different. I'm like, started
second guessing my motives and who I was. And I'm like, character, Yeah,
we're really talking about my character here. Well we're gonna
talk about character. Let's open all the books up and
(21:54):
talk about character. But and even like not that's true,
but not like pointing fingers, but it kind of opened
my eyes. Always I said, this was a kaleidoscope of
character revelation for me. And when you think about class
a whole bunch of different colors, you see people's true colors.
And um, I think I always quote one Luther King,
but he always said, like you could tell the true
(22:16):
character of a man not in times of comfort, but
during the times of contractions. And that's when you see
who's really rocking with you. When you see I mean
you you dealt with it too. You see where people
still feel like they think they could tell you. Are
you wrong? You just need it. You are you need it.
But I'm like, yo, hold lo, and and why do
you believe I'm wrong? But why do you? And and
(22:37):
people that you feel like you You know, I've been
at Viacom since I was a teenager, you know what
I mean. And I found that's a long time. But
I found myself having conversations like, man, I never thought
I would have this conversation with this person. I never
thought so through that when whatever reconciliation came around, I
(22:58):
was ready to walk away. I was like, no, that
season is closed. I'm done. I have so many more
amazing things. And then I started having conversations. I'm like, man,
this is we built something here. It was a family,
it was a legacy that was important not just on
a business aspect, but to the culture. And that's when
I was like, all right, well, if we're gonna do it,
we gotta do it the right way. We gotta do
(23:19):
it on on our terms. We have to do it
to where we could do stuff like this, where others
can eat, we can plant multiple seeds. Because I don't
want people again, I'm not here for a while, and
out from my ego, I didn't even create I created
it for others, my friends, and so like it was
never about the bad. There wasn't amount of money they
can give me or however those closed door conversations happened.
(23:41):
I let everybody know it's saying about money, like I've
walked away from n I walked away from I walked
away from money so many times. And that's just because
I know who I am, and I stand firm and
who I am. So that's currency is energy, and I
know I got everything is just everything happens for a reason,
(24:05):
and I think it put us in a better place.
So if I was that, you know, I even said
that to a lot of these conversations. I started off,
if this can bring people closer together and bring more understanding,
I'll be that sacrifice, like and we made, we made
some great sacrifice. We all had to sit on the
bench for a whole year to get to a space
where it's like, all right, now, let's get it, let's
get it right and do it bigger and better than ever.
(24:26):
So since um, since the I definitely want to say
something to you, but since you know, we we see
the world opening back up. We got toys back outside
all that, so Nick coming back, uh and again like
with the thing of what I've been trying to do
with what we saw this season, and even you know,
I'm already planning for the next two seasons. It's that
(24:49):
festival energy exactly. So we're gonna be are all of
our tour dates we're doing now hopefully like before we
would do arenas get like twenty people in there. Now
we're trying to get like fifty sixty thousand take it around.
When literally when I got the email Nick and I
said to you, I said, this is real. It is real,
(25:12):
you know, she said, Shine Queens, I thank you for that,
because I was like, I said, rip, you got this
one one. Come out there with Martin Lawrence and all
that I was not inviting. We will get to the truth,
mart I would say, Ross get invited. I wasn't whatever.
(25:33):
Tell the people the truth. I'll tell you. You tell
your girls the truth telling you not invited, And I
am about to cry the way it got to me,
it is like, Yo, she's on tour playing telephone town
people involved. I was not on tour. You came up
for the one show that you think that I was
invited on one show. We want you for more so
(25:55):
let's just right, don't you go when it might meet
this If you don't see her now that means her people,
So you tell me. But I do have a question, Um,
this is the last question real quick, something serious. Why
have I never been invited to be a while and
out girl? Well now the goddess is just you know,
(26:21):
they were excey'a can get an they're hilarious, like and
I used Amber Diamond as an example, because there's there's
I get those questions on both sides. I get a
lot of the goddesses asking, you know, they want to
be on the cash, and then I get a lot
of like, y'all like just hilarious, brought that up to
like I want to be up there, And it's like whatever, whatever,
(26:45):
you whatever your ministries, go ahead and do you. But honestly, yeah,
like those boots just episode. Yeah, I literally been. I
just think about dancing all the time, like all that
cute ship. Sometimes I'd be like no shapery, yeah, but
(27:12):
that's I mean, it's I feel like there's everyone has
a gift, everybody has an ability, you know. Sometimes that's
why I want to show people that the wilding out
Goddesses are more than just to faces. You know, Breth
was owning some class for a million billions of dollars
in that account. I love us every day, and just
(27:33):
a lot of people know that not all the Wilding
Out goddesses are your baby mama's. Let's get it out
there now. You know it's funny too, and it's it's
so interesting that for some reason that's always been the
joke from like season one. But I've attempted, you know,
most of the time, to to kind of keep it
(27:55):
as professional as possible, just because, I mean, especially the
climate that we live in now to where I want,
I mean, I think just who I am. I'm not
I don't chase women. Okay, so real quick, we only
got a couple say, how would you talk to her?
Like if I'm gonna are we coming back? Right? Because
it more than answer that stay too, more than I'm
(28:20):
gonna bailing out podcast is got nick. Let's come, let's
go alright, guys, we are back with the women of
Wilding Out Podcasts, and we are about to see Mr
Cannon holler at I can't wait. So the question was,
if we didn't know each other and we saw and
(28:41):
her hair was done, you know. It's interesting because I'm
not a person who chases women. I don't know how
to holler women like I don't let your home, you know,
I don't do that if you were really if I'm
really interested in one, I feel like the nightclub is
(29:01):
not the right environment, not see just like I'm playing
my money and oft play Like I got that, I
probably would be more likely to engage with someone in
a church set. Okay, what about see if it was
(29:21):
on the set of Wild Yeah, no, no, no no, like
if you were a guest, because I've definitely done this,
Like if somebody was a guest on the show, I
get all. So first of all, I would make sure
I knew. I would talk to your people and I
was like, Yo, what are the things that she likes?
What you know you did that to my manager? And
when you would go when you would go into your
(29:43):
dressing room, it would be a custom basket with your
favorite perfume, a scarf from your favorite designer. And then
like if a handwritten note like yo, I heard you
like this, I just want to make sure you're comfortable
got your first night that I would just try to
pay attention to those. And then because I feel like
I would be comfortable because I'm in my home second,
(30:04):
so I will make and then I would go Yeah,
I would go above and beyond whatever p A was
in charge of taking care of you getting you from
the car, I would be like, yo, hit me when
she pull up. That's all you have insight that she
did all day. He ain't gotta work. He already know
(30:24):
what am I at a concer and you're just like
all the friends, all the girls come like, not at that,
but at a concert. Take yourself out of just wilding,
not on set somewhere else but your confort You gotta
do it on your own. I'm gonna keep it say
it's been a long time since I've had to do.
Because also I'm very patient. So if if somebody that
(30:48):
I do like, I like her, I'm not in a rush.
H she gonna come to my house eventually, Yes, like
the other one next week, I would really try to
genuinely get to know that person. And for me, and
maybe I'm wrong, lady, I feel like you guys have
(31:11):
dudes constantly at you all the time. If I can
authentically show interest without trying to holler at you, I
feel like I probably have a better chance than a dude,
Like when can we hang out with women that are
just cute? Or do you do with women that you
only like as people? I'm gonna be like, do you
(31:31):
have one as a trophy? You got the other one
that's like girl, your conversation, but your head is horrible
like that pussy good, but be quiet. Never met I never.
I haven't met a person that you don't like. Don't
say that. Let me go back and met a beautiful god.
I'm trying to keep it a stack. Um, I don't.
(31:51):
I haven't had any new friends in years, friends, you know,
And That's what I'm saying, like not even on something
just like homies, like I don't want. I so understood
when Drake said no new friends, and I'm like, I
get that because I'm still building and dealing with the
relationships I had trying to convince this one I'm gonna
be I'm gonna after being married. And that's the other
(32:13):
reason why, you know, monogamy is such an interesting concept
for me because I feel like I did it at
the highest level and then it's like what else do
you do after that? It's like from that point I
became a different person after my divorce them like, okay,
let's not make it about me and fulfilling what I
want in my desires. How can I help others? There
has to be I got everything I ever. I have
(32:35):
my dream girl dream. We got married and had a
wedding every year for damn here seven years, and it
was always fun. It was like it was never a
dull moment. So I'm like, all right, now that I've
had every fantasy and dream that I could have, how
can I help others in that space? And that's really
where so I have Yeah, so like I don't even know.
(32:57):
I don't holler at people. I don't I don't desire,
but who I want to meet such and such as,
like if the universe brings it across, like let me
figure out what this is supposed to be. But my
own personal desires I'm kind of over there. And that
probably is one of the reasons why there's several baby
mamas and all that stuff, because it's never like I'm
not going into it looking like what I want them, Like, oh,
(33:18):
this person is looking for this, all right, Maybe I'm
the vessel for this person's life for that moment, so beautiful,
But thank you for me in the vessel of my life.
But that I mean, I don't know if that answered
the question, but I'm trying to bullshit my way around it.
But that literally is where I am in my life.
It's like I don't have any structure in that sense
(33:41):
of like what I want because I don't really I
try again, we all got egos. I try not to
make it about me. Are you religious or spiritual? Like
I used to be religious. I'm a p K. So
I was crazy my dad, and I mean, you know
I was. I was hit in the church. That was
(34:01):
the annoying, rambunctious little kid that he can nobody tell
him what to do because that's past. Yeah, all of that,
like you know, moving around, but also at the highest
level then you know my dad when he was just
struggling and having you know, the public access television show
with no members and all of that type of stuff.
So I saw every aspect of that. And because of that,
(34:24):
I have a disdain for religion. I don't like it.
I don't trust it. Um as as much as I
love spirituality. UM Monotheism is anything with the word mono
in it. I don't like all that because when it's
(34:50):
just like We're not uh a monolithic people, you know
what I mean, We're not. Everybody can't be one thing,
everybody can't desire the same, everybody takes a different course.
So when I explained spirituality, when I experience relationships with
the most high, I kind of put it in the
same sense of like cell phone carriers, you know what
I mean. You can have Verizon, you can have Sprint,
(35:11):
but as as long as you're connect, long as you connected,
for am I to say that your service ain't working
for you. So I feel like if you're truly in tuning,
in touch with God, and there's a lot of I
would say there's a lot of almost like there's there's
some philosophies within Sikhism and as well as a uh
Buddhist understandings to where it's difficult to put a curriculum
(35:37):
on how you deal with God, especially if it comes
from within. So I'd rather step back and say, whatever
is working for you, do you But I'm seeking understanding
in peace. So I know every Yeah, I know every
book of the Bible and beside all the verses, but
I also know where that stuff comes from. And I've
(35:58):
also you know, having a degree in in divinity you
when you go that deep, you're like, oh, that's where
that came from. Oh, that's why we believe that. And
then when you break it down, it's just a lot
of ritualism, traditions. There's some things in the Bible that
I was and like, I love it, you know what
(36:18):
I mean, because I was raised in I believe there's
some truth in it. But then when you get to
that space when you say where all religion comes from,
and it starts and the stars, and it starts from
the ideas, and you know, where's the concept of christ
consciousness actually begin, and you kind of break that stuff down,
it's like, ultimately you can get to the space where
everybody's right or everybody's wrong. So and it's like it's like, really,
(36:42):
what's working for you? So that's why I like religion
because especially and you know, like there's twenty six thousand
different sects of Christianity, and it's like, how can you
have twenty six thousand? Uh? But but again, if we're
all saying the same thing when you when you hear
about you know, whether it's Krishna or whether it's you know, uh,
(37:06):
can isis and all of those things and like when
Lucifer being Jupiter, Saturn being Satan, all of these types
of things that kind of all point to the same origin,
Abrahamic faiths, and all of that stuff comes from it
comes from the same nucleus. So I never understood why
(37:27):
people couldn't focus on our similarities instead of focusing on
our differences. And y'all hear how these words as managed
us it. He don't know two plus two a nuclear
You asked him two plus T minus too. I don't
know what it is. I can't repeat that. I said
(37:49):
two plus plas something happens in my mind with man.
That's why the car never been my friend. I think
it's definitely cognitive dissonance though, So, like you know, from
the foundation, you learn certain things and then you're at
a certain place in your life and you're like, I
(38:09):
learned this, but you're conflicting me with this information. I'm
going to trust what I learned from people. Times, you
gotta trust what you feel, whether this that whatever you're feeling,
Like you say that internal pieces all that matters. When
you have internal peace, you can live your life. And
I used to That's my problem and even probably one
of the reasons why I got in trouble. And you know,
(38:29):
even my Cannons class Um podcast, I used to want
to show people I was smart, show people I got
a degree, I'm educated, and that ship got me in trouble,
even in my interview style because I would be like, oh,
I'm sitting down with Dr Carr, I'm sitting down with
Dr Umar and I'm like, yeah, I know just as
much as you know. I know that, And then I'm like,
(38:50):
but why am I regurgitating like y'all could learn some
more about just listening and I'm talking so over That's
probably where That's how I evolved over the last year
or two. It was like, sometimes need to just let
the ego go, sit back and listen, and I don't
have to prove how smart I am. I don't have
to prove how many books I read. I'm just going
to continue learning, you know, And we're gonna love on
(39:10):
you because at the end of the day, you are
you are because you are investal and to let God
continue to use you in all the ways possible. But
thank you Nick so much for sliding and you know,
giving us some knowledge and we love you so much.
You know, um, you deserve someone I love on you.
I don't care if you like five or ten of
(39:31):
the same people. Don't you know, we're gonna love on
you regardless. So thank you Nick. Again. We're about to
get into this quote, y'all, this this racialive, whatever you feel,
that's because I don't know. As much as I talked
to say I have a disdain for religion. I always
go back to that powerful book that just allows us
(39:52):
to operate because we all can find synergy and it's
wisdom in it. So in Romans, it says, and if
God before us can be against us, And when you
operate with the God within you and know that God
is within you, that there's no obstacle that you can't overcome.
In y'all people right now to keep shining so much,
(40:12):
bring you can't. Nobody stopped the Goddess already. And no,
we love you so much. This is the Woman of
Wilding Up Podcast. See you next time. We love you. Bye,
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