March 29, 2022 • 38 mins
Superstar athlete, cheerleader and choreographer Santwon McCray joins his castmates to talk about living unapologetically. Santwon shares how he got on Wild 'N Out starting with his Nashville audition. Then he gets intimate about his love life and where he sees himself in 5 years.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the women while in our podcast you guy,
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go pretty what's up y'all? We'll back your girl Justina
be with Pretty d and be somebody can anybody? Can
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(00:24):
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the Women a While and now a podcast where the
ladies a while and out control the mic. This is
our world from our prospective. It's your girl, Justina Valencine
(00:47):
and I'm here with my girl, the one, the only
be Simone and uh you know what, yeah, baby girl,
we have a very special guest today. Be So I'm
excited for today's podcast. How are you living? How you feeling?
I'm good. I'm over here smacking. I'm trying to, you know,
set my face real quick. But we got on here.
I'm so excited. That's my phone, yes girl, my finger.
(01:08):
I don't know how to take it off the them.
I'm gonna put my phone on airplane. Put it on airplane, girl,
you fly, do not discern they got this new um
what is it called? The plant based meat? You wouldn't
even know. So I wouldn't even you gave up meat.
Well that's good because our guests today les than meat.
(01:30):
I'm playing, but I'm saying I ain't had meat year, girl.
I'm so sorry. Well it's it's one of my favorites
on the show. Um, you know what I mean. He
really impressed me. He came to the wild style, he wrote.
He also gave the ladies a soas he goes toe
to toe in the wild style, and that's our boot Stine. Hey, baby,
(02:00):
oh my god, what's up? We're already told now you
know my blood person and the rent, you know, but
weve to live in color. Baby. We're in this bitch.
We are six ft above ground and we're blessed. So
I'm grateful to be here front of these beautiful technical difficulties.
I didn't have no textical difficulties. They're never wrong. My
test over here, that's your all. Yeah, because I was like, wow, okay,
(02:20):
since one, he's kind of stole a little new to
be this bougie, you know what I mean. But he
had to get them test together. We had to get
it right, get it tight, Jesus. But we figured it
out and we're up there here now. So I know
y'all couldn't see him, but he had a little surprise
for us. Victoria's trying to chell my secrets. Jesus, is
(02:42):
that a secret? And who's Victoria? Hello? Well, you know
I'm trying to do a little some of my skin breathe,
you know. Um, I'll be honest. I do wear units,
and they are, you know, partly a blanket and partly
a crown. Because I do, I'll be a hundred and
fifty with it, and I do wear units, but I
wanted to let my hair breathe from minute. So I'm
giving you very much blackness, a clean Yes, Yes, he
(03:04):
got the fresh ball, the same thing. I mean, if
they take the guard maybe a little word, I would
be bald. I almost did the Jada Pinkett, but I
was like, hold on, we're gonna have to do Holly
Berry it. I don't know if I look I like
that length on you. Baby. She has a face for it.
She definitely is a face for it. Because you know,
my ass couldn't go bold. I'd be definitely call me justin.
(03:25):
I already know we already do ye right, So I'm
definitely I wouldn't already do it, right, but it looks
good on your baby Smash for sure, thank you. I
don't know if if that's a compliment or you know,
but anyway, you're like, God, so you telling me you
are smash, I'm like, is it still a jab? I
can't be sure. You know these queens, I here a
(03:46):
picky girl. So that's a good thing, okay for good Well, Sanswan.
For the people who don't know you, because you have
been like killing it since you've been on the show,
give us a little backstory on who Santwan is um
pre wild or like just kind of my journey from
the beginning. But that's who you are as a person
of personality everything. Oh gosh, Well, I am a young
(04:10):
black prince on the rise, and uh, I hail from
King Street, South Carolina. I was born there and uh
raised Virginia Beach and then I went to college at
the University of Louisville, and uh, I've been an athlete
all my life and started in baseball and could have
swore I was gonna go pro and then got bored
and and then became a cheerleader. I tried everything and
nothing really fully fulfilled like me. So in cheerleading, where
(04:33):
I could be you know, athletically challenged and I could
also feel like a normal person. Per se. I found
that I could be all of myself, and UH, I
went on to you know, gain over two hundred and
fifty national titles coaching, choreographing, and competing combined. UM a
four time Collegiate All American, an individual International champion, and
(04:53):
a five time world champion, including with Team USA. So
you know, I think basically, I just feel like, UM,
I just feel with my athletic background, I wanted to
you know, transition into what I really wanted to do
in life, and that's action, comedy, film and TV. And
I just felt that, you know, one of the very
few places that I could do such a thing, UM
(05:14):
and entertain it's entertainment, it's comedy, it's it's you know,
places like wilding out. And I really am grateful for
the opportunity. UM And I think my queens in here
can attest there's very few places where you feel like
you can fully be a queen and not just be yourself,
but to be received as your full self. So I
definitely think that this is just beyond a blessing to
be a part of this UM this crazy ass family man.
(05:36):
And that's just a little bit about me and where
I come from. I just come from an athletic background
where I get to, you know, being a sport that
I can completely be myself wholly and fully and be
embraced for it. In fact, So it sounds like you
definitely have, um the background, you know how to be
on a team, be a team player. And yeah, it
sounds like you achieved all your goals in the cheer world.
(05:57):
That's amazing. Two titles and and all that other stuff.
So I always wanted to be a cheerleader. Oh yeah,
let's hear a cheer beat beat my boyfriend beat eating names.
So so how did you get on? So how did
you get on wilding out Sandswan? Like, how did you
(06:19):
hear about the audition? Like tell us that and you're
so good, You're so funny, you are, Oh, thank you,
thank you. I had actually gotten a text from a
friend in Nashville, um, and I don't know from a
lot of same names or anything, but he just hit
me up and was like, bro, they're holding auditions like
down the street and like I lived up the street
(06:39):
from like Roscoe Chicken Waffles in l a and I
was like, let me just walk my happy ass down here,
and I just went on down to the street and
you know, went on down the street, was like heyo,
what y'all doing? And they let me come in do
my thing. And then I had been randomly flown in
for like two episodes and were like, good job. You know,
(07:01):
we we really loved having you. And you know, I
just was like, Wow, this was a really cool experience
and I'll never have it again, so I'm just gonna
soak this ship in. And I was in Germany doing
Koreo for a cheer gym out there and I had
randomly got an email it was like, we would love
to have you as part of our fifteen cycle. And
when I tell you about ship A Brick, I was like,
there's no way on playing earth. These people actually like
(07:22):
me and the rest is so confident. How do you
feel like wilding out is compared to like what you
see just being a viewer and actually being on the show,
because I know my first season, I was like, like
you said, Shift and Bricks so scared. It's so challenging
people think where they're just up there being goofy and
e condom and like, no, you have to be really talented,
quick on your toes, you have to think, you have
(07:44):
to practice. You don't want to bomb, you know, so
excuse me, Um, is it challenging for you? Do you
feel like it's what you thought it would be or
is it easier than you thought it would be? Like
tell the people a little bit about the BTS while now,
because people think we up there just hoo hoo hood
goofing off, and it's really challenging for me even still, Um,
I think it's it's almost exactly as I pictured it,
(08:08):
but just not God, how do I phrase this? It's
exactly what I thought it would be. It's it's hard work,
and it's it's not just the laughs. It's just it's
how we like present this thing to the world. And
in my head I wanted to I always want to
understand how every show like solves its Rubik's cube and
puts it like puzzle together, and you know, so when
(08:31):
I got in there and I just saw everybody doing
their own thing, and then if they want to, like
if they like you know, start freestyle and start spending
some off somebody somebody, just they just cling to it
and they're like sure, let's go. And it's always just
saying and it's always like, let's just let's kill it.
Let's see what we can make out of it. I
really was so surprised. And you know how people have
(08:51):
dominant personalities, but the thing is everyone's dominant personality comes
with an open arm of like, you know, I can
stand my own ground, bitch, like I can sit here
and get six seven million people to show up for
my video, or I can fill up an arena. However,
if you want to share space with me on this pedestal,
on this throne, or on this stage, then let's do
it and we can be a super over. So I
(09:11):
thought that was really that was so reassuring and humbling
and motivating, because you know, you never want to see
somebody that's this person X y Z up here in
the stratosphere, and when you walk in a room, you
never want to feel like, yo, I can't even talk
to that person because I feel like they're gonna just
ship and rain on my whole parade and they're gonna
make me feel like I ain't nothing. Everybody makes you
(09:32):
want to just hop on that little fast track and
just go, and it's dope. So for me seeing the
behind the scenes of how people work together, and they're like,
I don't really know what we're about to do, but like,
if you want to just pick a subject, let's go,
let's just let's see what happens, and let's get the
energy going, and let's go this direction and let's let's
let's get it. That to me, that to me is
one of the dopest thing. Yeah, I definitely felt welcomed.
(09:53):
I was a little nervous, you know. I definitely had
a mishap my first day. Um, and you know, I
thought that you know, um, you know, and I'm not
throwing nobody under the bus. It's no shade, it's nothing
for nobody to look into. But you know, somebody surprised
me with something and it threw me off because I
was like, you know, this isn't what this isn't the
(10:16):
presentation of myself I want to kind of get into
the first time, you know, I got a little gag
played on me with like you know, powder and stuff
and and and then I thought about it. I was like,
the person it's not necessarily what happens to you in
the in the world of wilding out is how you
react to it. That makes you the star, bitch. So
you can either take it and think, oh, this person
is malicious, this person is doing their own thing and
(10:38):
funk what I'm standing for, or you can say, how
do I turn around and make this funny? And in
that moment, I was like, what you're gonna do now, bitch?
And I turned around and I actually won the match.
So I'm very proud of that moment. So I was
real nervous. It's nothing to look into. You don't have
to call incorporate. But and the funny part argue about right,
And the funny part is who you're talking about because
(11:00):
it could only be one person, but right. But speaking
of standing your ground, Santowan, you are so on a
unapologetically you did. You feel like wilding Out was just
a space where you could be that and you didn't
have to come on and try to follow what anyone
else was doing on the show. You just knew that
you could be Santowan and you would be accepted and
(11:22):
be able to thrive just being yourself. Um, I was
ninety nine point certain that if I'm just myself and
I got the job, then I'm somewhat meant to be there,
now in order to stay in that motherfucker, then you
gotta be yourself and also pick up the learning curve
that everybody else's because everybody else don't have the rubric,
(11:43):
you know what I mean, They created their own and
they fit into how with what our team, what our
team captain, our coach now when he's like, this is
what we're gonna do today, and here's a challenge. No
Curson or no Dick jokes like when he does that,
like everyone else has to adapt. So I'm like, if
I'm here in the same space as these icons and
these Juggernauts have, then I'm clearly meant to start here
and do something. So I could, you know, I figured, hey,
(12:06):
let's go for it. And I don't ever want to
second guess myself, which I do quite often, but I figured,
if I'm in there, I might as well just continue
to be myself and unless if I change, it's me
stepping my pussy up in you know what I mean. Okay, So, okay,
step that pussy up. Sorry you hate that word step
step step Your cook is up Jesus sorry. Last season
(12:30):
a while about that I was on UM. Then we
was in the hotel room. We was out in Cali, Ontario, Ontario,
and youre a little da ding. They called to the room.
I was saying, room. It was like step one, worry,
(12:51):
are you out of your mind? Okay? No, I heard
a day day and it was like you gotta delivery.
Somebody sent you for hours and his boyfriend him flowers
and it was the sweetest thing ever. At that time,
I had a boyfriend and I said, just hilarious was
in there? I said, yes, you need to text my
(13:13):
man and tell him to do this ship because but
are you still with y'aboo? Are y'all getting married? What
is going on? Because y'all be posting and I'm like
every deadly love each other. Yes, oh that is my
better half, Kyle. I love you. If you ever hear
this year my absolute universe. Um so he's in He's
in Dallas right now, and yes, we are still together, thriving.
(13:36):
I just had to come back to Georgia to get
some dinner work done. But usually if I'm not having
to work on set on the project, I'm doing all
my ringwork and other work in Dallas and I'm a
house husband. I'm in my ugly business and you know,
I just I do what to do, and I just
make sure when I when I you know, am at
in Dallas at his place and he comes home like
he got a nice hot meal, some fresh laundry. Baby,
the slippers are warm, like I'm doing my husband ly duties.
(13:59):
Down we goals, yes, ma'am. And he's coming back in
the fall, uh to Georgia. So we're gonna, you know,
take the next step in life into our thing. I
moved to Georgia just um a look a little bit ago,
so I just didn't really make a just outside like
near Lake Lanier. Don't be don't be stalking me, y'all
at the important but I've been looking for me. Want
(14:21):
what comes through? What's up? Y'all? We are back with
the women a while and out podcast. It's your girl,
Justina Valentine here with my girl be some moan and
we got Santoine in the building. We are talking about
his love life, his career and how he is unapologetically
(14:45):
him and we love that about him. So y'all getting married,
you're planning to get married and all that or like, yeah,
we're gonna make the next organic steps and and do
the you know, engagement thing. When the time is right
and we want to set ourselves up for success in
the future. So yeah, out to a day in the
life of me. I know his his handle because you
you always But so I have a question, um, because
(15:06):
you said you're gonna take the next step, get married
and all that, who would be the one to propose?
Does it not matter? Does he have to do it?
Do you have to do it? Did y'all talk about that? Right?
We've spoken about, you know, certain future things, and basically, uh,
you know, I would love to because I like to
do surprises. He hates surprises. But also he's like, we're
(15:27):
both from the South, but you know, he is such
a country traditional, old school like like southern gentleman. So
I definitely think that would be something that is on
his soul. And you know, I think he's gonna do it.
You know, we talked about it, and I think it's
gonna be for him and I would love to have
my little moment, you know. So I'm gonna let him,
you know, do that, and I'm gonna put my hands
up in my face. Oh my god, he's gonna be
(15:51):
like I didn't know, but it's gonna be ten cameras
catching it. From every angle of video pictures you have
that motherfucker believe that. Okay, how did you know it
was the one though, Like because I'd be like, I'll
be thinking, guys are the one And then as you
can see, we get on the podcast a couple of
months later and I'm single again, so single A game
(16:12):
back on the prow thought was perfect. I don't know
how thank you training how well? Um, you know it started.
It was one of those things that it developed. Um,
and I saw him and of course, like you know,
love at first sight, but it was and it was
one of those things where it's like, you know, we
both had previously been in a relationship, that all that
whole thing. But it took us eight years too, kind
(16:33):
of really, eight years in a global pandemic for us
to slow down and really see each other. And you know,
he's always seen cheerleader Santoine out there on a hundred.
He's never one thing. One thing he really said to
me that got me. He was like, I have never
ever seen you sit back and like your shoulders relaxed.
I've never seen you take a deep breath and just
close your eyes and breathe. And he's like, just to
(16:53):
see you in a different light and relaxed. It's so
you know, mind blowing. And that's the thing that really
I might remember because he's like, I'm always just seeing
and you're always upright and everyone's in your face and
like you're just on all the time. I never get
to see relax and um. So it took a lot
for us to slow down and see each other and um,
after knowing each other for eight years and checking each other,
(17:13):
checking on each other like during our relationships, and then
checking in with each other after the relationships like and
just making sure each other is okay. And then finally
one day we just ended up um seeing each other
at a mutual friends pool party. And then man like
he just stepped on a mixtape. He literally stepped back
on a mix tape while we were talking and just
say is that to a mix tape? And just the
(17:34):
way he said it let me know everything I needed
to know his personality, his sense of humor, his groundedness
like his wittiness, his everything and his or his energy.
And when I tell you, I have never found a
better all around man in my life and I'm so
lucky for him. So what are what are the negatives though,
like every every relationship, No, not negatives, but the stuff
y'all have to work through. Obviously, every relationship has little problems,
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whether they're big, small, microsop topic. Do you all have
like conversations? Have you ever had like a blown up
argument or anything? You know what's interesting, We've never actually
had a full out, like knocked down, drag out fight
because we've had so many natural, organic conversations over the
years and during our relationship of like how we like
to do things and just basically having a mutual consideration.
(18:19):
I'm not gonna sit here and pretend we're Miss America
and we're perfect. Like no, Like sometimes I'm like, hey,
I ordered a large fry, you didn't get one, but
you want one of mine, and we'll have a funny
like something I don't know, but like, we rarely have arguments.
Anytime we have um any kind of not debate but
real in depth discussions, it's us getting to know one
another and like um, like a race topic or like
(18:40):
a future children's topic or like you know, differences in
like how our parents are because I'm black country, he
white country, so you know, we we're trying to blend
our worlds, and so in order for us to shoot forward,
we have to take a second and pull back if
we want to slingshot, you know, through life in a
successful manner. And I think us taking a moment and
just getting to understanding each other's tone, how to treat
(19:01):
one another, and how to respect ourselves and each other,
and like how how how the world perceives us, and
just being considerate of everything of that person's world, but
still staying in your own land, go on your own speed.
So so traffic, Like we really try to make that
work in private. So when we're in public, nothing's fake,
it's not bullshit. So like we don't really argue. It's
like the only thing we like struggle with sometimes it's
(19:23):
like matches schedule so we can make sure we have
off time, Like we schedule our florid together. Yeah, you know,
we try to schedule our year out four to six
months in advance so we can actually have quality time.
So and you do, y'all do seem really respectful of
each other. Like I've never even seen you like on
set or anything like looking at anyone else, Like it's
(19:46):
always all about Kyle. You're always shouting him out, even
on the show. It's like we all know him by damn. Hey,
we know you and love right but that and you
guys look great to get other. So I'm happy for you.
But look, I want to play our version of fun
Mary kill all right, but we're gonna do We're gonna
(20:07):
little PG. Thirteen. We're gonna make it date married friend zone.
So we're gonna start with the ladies, all right. So
it's be myself and pretty v you gotta marry friend zone, okay,
period um, so date Mary friend zone and it is
pretty v b smone and Justina herself. I would friend
(20:31):
zone Justina so I can hang out with you all
the time, talk two brothers, you know what I mean,
like the branch and have a period. It's hello when
that's the best about worlds we could we want to
do And I would love to hang out with you
all the time and just shoot the ship. I would
love to. I would love to date be so she
could stop singing her boy friends. You'll probably that I
(20:53):
would love to take you on a date because I
feel like you just know what type of ship you
like and I would love to see you just out
there being pampered. I would love you to take you
on a day and then do like some special for
you and surprise you would like something interesting, like a
handwritten letter from like your grandmother that you never just go.
I want to do something special because I feel like
you like special Ship Titanic, you know what I mean.
I feel like you like special Ship. And I would, honestly,
(21:17):
I would honestly marry the ship out of me because
I'm obsessed with her. Um and she would still do
her thing and you know, and I would still do mine,
but I would just marry her because I feel like
I could just be with her all the time and like, yeah,
just laugh, Yeah you could be dancing on her little
island with her and like, you know, you hit that
(21:38):
little table she dances on. So look, now we gotta
do the guy's version. So we got Boris Kojo, Chris
Hemsworth and Jason Momoa. Why don't random as honestly right,
because I'm like, I'm I'm hoping I'm pronouncing everything right.
Let's put it up, not forget it, let's do let's
(22:00):
do Drake DC, Young Fly and Nick Cannon. Okay, I
would honestly, I would probably um friend Zone DC because
he's just a homie at heart, Like I feel like
I could just just shoot the ship with him, just
like he was, like it's just all love and it's
fun and it's constant like just laughter. So I mean,
you can't not have a good friend like that, like
(22:22):
a route at the bottom of your tree. Like that's
just a solid nigga right there, s my language. And
then I would. I would go on a date with Drake,
you know, just to see what it's like, do some
adventurous ship and like you know, getting club, you know
what I mean, like just to say I didn't like it, right,
you know, just some bullshit on like you know that.
But um, I would. I would honestly marry Nick because
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I think that's it's it's just it's all around, like
it's not that like he find he got money and
like he funny, Like no, it's like and I'm not
listen right now, Nick, I'm not saying this because you're
my boss, nigga. I'm dead as serious. You are husband material,
ya know, y'all know they cannad I want to get
married again. Say that you don't, that's all right, but
(23:05):
you are husband material, sir, And you know who else
has my baby, my baby cow. So anyway, that's why
I really know y'all knew I was gonna say I'm
a writer. I'm like, okay, Kyle, yeah, girl, Okay, So
saying T Twine, you did the cheerlead and you did
(23:28):
the athletics stuff you didn't. Now you've done TV, even
on national TV. You got a man, Now you in love.
We talked about you. Excuse me, jes she's she's gagged
getting married. Where do you see yourself in five years?
Like you want to see all this going? I would
like to. I would like to in five years be
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doing what I actually want to do, how I want
to do it, in a sense of like how y'all
do just on my personal scale where I see myself like,
I want to be that person who can do because
I feel like in Hollywood people for some reason just
don't think that other people are multi talented and actually
excel in multiple fields. So I would like to be
an action comedy hero for Marvel. I would like to
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be that person that like is on a show on
the regular and it's producing and bringing up concepts and
writing music for other people and hosting awards shows, and
and I know that I can do this, and I
feel like I can explode inside when I explain this
as people because I know that I can and I
know I can do it on a level that's like unseen.
So you know, I'm not that immediate blueprint that agent
(24:33):
or manager somebody would say, I don't see it. That's
because it ain't been done before, bitch. That's why you
ain't seen. So in five years, that's where I want
to be, or at least starting to be on the
way to that married mind and my ugly business. And
then I'm probably having our first set of kids because
Colin are having twin boys and a girl. Um, do
(24:54):
you know who you're going to? Um, it's a long process,
but it's going to be like our DNA is gonna
be our kids. And we're having twin boys and I'm
not gonna tell you their names, but we're having a girl.
And basically one thing that me and Kyle say to
each other is I everything love you, UM and UM
we're gonna take the acronym of it. And her middle
name is gonna be AILI. How cute. Well, okay, so
(25:20):
are you gonna do like yours? Ferm for one kid?
And then his firm for another kid or not. But no,
like you can you can really miss the ship. You
can have your own. Yeah, and they just remove the
egg out if I'm if I'm remembering my research correctly,
because there's some gay couples that have their own actual
children and um yeah, man. So I just want to
(25:40):
be I'm not trying to. I hate to say this,
but I'm not trying to be a role model for
other games. I'm not trying to, you know, be the
first game president. I'm literally just trying to be the
best in my life. And if it happens inspired somebody, cool,
I'm I'm you know, I'm not trying to be Miss
America or Mr America, which I'm just trying to live
in America, thrive in this bitch. And I don't got
that much time, girl. I'm I'm about to be thirty
(26:01):
three next month, Honey, I don't you know what I mean?
I don't have this like I'm sixteen and I'm on
my way to superstart him. Know I've seen him pregnant.
You know I have to. I have to be offish
one my time, so I can't you do have time?
Two trains made when he was periods, keep rapping and
and to a concert that is old and he still
started out without getting it right around whatever. And you
(26:24):
know what stands on honestly, like the blessing is you
know you, like you said, you feel like you achieved
everything you wanted to achieve in your one career, which
was athletics, like mainly cheerleading, and now you're onto the
next part of your career. You're thriving, you're doing great,
You're you know, you've brought such a personality and a
different twist to wild and now. So I think everything
(26:47):
you're aiming for is a hundred percent attainable. And I
know you work hard and you're only concentrated on your
career and your man, so blinds on you keep focusing
on Yeah, peney, okay real quick because before we go,
before we go, we do want to quote from you,
so think about that. But what is a deal breaker
(27:07):
in your relationship? Have y'all talked about that? Because I'm
really big on non negotiable It's like I feel like
people like, if you do this, I'm leaving, and then
somebody does it and then they stay. So I'm like, well,
that's not a non negotiable if you can negotiate about it.
What it's like, y'all's non negotiables, Like, we are not
dealing with this. If this happens, I don't care. If
we're married, I don't care if we have two kids,
I am leaving you. I'm not dealing with that. Um. Nonegotiable.
(27:30):
To be honest, is if he buys me wings and
their drums and not flats period. I'm not playing with
your ask me, I'm not. It's like, and I know
it's people out there that's gonna hear this flats all
day now if you can hear them, you know me,
stop playing. No, Um, I feel like just one of
the things is sorry now just texting me. I'm gonna
(27:53):
beat it. Ask my golf this phone. But no, I
really honestly feel like truly blatant this respect and any
major form. And I know we all know we talked
about like it's just one of the things like if
you out here hoing, you know, and especially when you
are married, like if you're hoing out there and you
do what you're not supposed to do, and then you're
not really looking out for the longevity of the relationship
(28:15):
and ultimately the legacy of the family were starting, like
you know, it's not so we have and it's I.
That's obvious stuff. And I think, honestly, if I lose
if I or Kyle lose our passion for what we
do and we get stuck in life, that's a deal breaker.
But that's not me leaving. I think honestly, like, if
we lose passion or respect for one another, we're gonna
(28:35):
have to say, hey, hey, focus and let's go back
to what we was doing and make sure that we
keep that. And also, I don't a deal breaker for
me is if we lose our natural attraction and like
funness together, if that makes sense, like we we travel
the world together and do all these incredible things and
I want to do with our kids and and and
I don't think that I could ever stop loving him
(28:56):
or some would be a true deal breaker that I
didn't even at least try to mend first, because I'm
not gonna just give up and say, oh, well, I'm
walking out. I'm not. I'm not an idiot on both ends.
I'm not gonna let him repeatedly do something, um and
I'm not gonna just say fuck it at the drop
of a let the dime when I'm like, oh, ship,
so I don't feel right, you know. So it's it's
one of those things you gauge as you go because
everyone's situations are different. But you know, as of right now,
(29:19):
it's motherucking rainbows and sunshine. I'm the happiest motherfucker in
the park right now. So together, it will be um
a year and a half. Um, you don't have to
come up soon. Yeah, I was just gonna say that
you never been in a fight. Give it about another year,
you know. And that's the thing A lot of people
would look at me like, yo, that's puppy love, and
(29:39):
which it is, you know, technically, but when you known
each other eight years and you've got a real foundation,
that's a that's a different year and a half, you
know what I mean. That's why we don't argue and struggle,
and it's like, yo, we we just know how to
be amongst each other. And we were coexisting before we
started coexisting, so we got a little leg up. So well,
it don't seem like you guys are gonna lose the
passion anytime soon, because I see all them Instagram posts
(30:01):
of you guys booed up and doing it big. So
you know, I definitely wish you guys the best on that.
But you know, outside of UM, you and Kyl and
you guys traveling the world, what you guys that you're
working on right right new that the people can look
out for. I have a movie coming up in Marshall
I'll be filming. It's a quick little cameo, little shawam
pop I have and it's called Things like This, which
(30:22):
is very great. Thank you, Max Talisman and much appreciated. Um.
We have our next season coming up, can't wait to
see you. And then I will also be trying to
make a point this year to go to all my
friends comedy shows and support and be a real one
because I think them doing what they gotta do on
their own, it's beautiful. And then I am um. I
actually have a project right now. Hopefully UM it all
(30:43):
comes to fruition. But I just designed Georgia's Orange Bowl
and their national championship rings, so I'm crossing my fingers
that they take it and accept it because they are dope.
And um yeah, I got some treatments for some movies
that i'll be um trying to pitch soon and I'm
very excited at it. Yes, let's go. And your rings
(31:03):
are so dope, they are so nice. I supported I
got the silver one, you know, with the big sexy.
It's so fire. I love it. Also doubles as like
a little weapon if somebody tries to get crazy, because
that there's some weight is a body, y'all. I'm nervous.
My phone gonna die. I'm nervous. Give us a quote,
(31:24):
Give us a quote. Be yourself, Be yourself, bitch, uh,
And I really mean that, be yourself, but also better yourself.
Be better than you were yesterday. Stay in your own
l and go your own speed so it's no traffic.
You are you are and filling the blank and just
believe it. And I think people don't necessarily like really
(31:46):
lean towards quotes like that because they're like, you know,
it's cliche. But my thing is if it's the truest ship.
It's like, you can never build a real empire, right,
You can't build a sky scraper without a real foundation.
You gotta start at the same place. Well, where can
the people find you? Where can the people find um?
You guys can find me at I am Santoan on
(32:07):
all social media platforms all social media. I'm from Jersey
now um all social media platforms at I M, S
A and T W O N and uh or designed
by Santourana if you want to check out my ring
work and then you can find me on a while
and now acting a damn food. All right, Well, thank
you for coming through, Santoan. We love you, we appreciate you,
(32:28):
and we can't wait to see what the future has
because we know it's gonna bet we love. I truly
do love you both. And I look at everything you do.
Is if I'm the biggest fan, because I just I
really do think the world of you girls, and I
see what you do and I always just like just
kick a moment and I see you and I just
look at you and all because you guys are such
John y'all are so incredible and so sweet. I really
(32:50):
do mean. I look at her and I just think
back years ago and I'm just like, these motherfucker's are
giant and they're incredible, and they're right in front of
me and now they're friends, and I'm like, this is
so And you guys remain on the rise and you
stay elevating. So I'm I'm very very blessed to be
able to like just be in the same room with you.
And I love y'all to day. Thank you, saman I
(33:11):
love y'all your hands like, okay, already now cut it all,
cut all, hey, y'all. That was Santoine. We loved having
him here. But we're about to take a little breaky break.
(33:32):
We will be right back with some more women a while.
And now what's up, y'all? We are back with the
women a while. And now it's your girl, Justineau here
with my girl. Be some moan and we got our
(33:54):
boot in the building. Santoine, bing bong bing bang that up.
He was such a good um guest. Do y'all hear
my dog walking around, y'all? Hear that? Oh that's a
little y'all. Hear the little bit of pet. How's she doing?
And I was so excited when you got a dog.
You don't want big do? Right? How do I stop that?
Because it drives me to do I have to cut
(34:15):
his car? Well? I mean yeah, you have to either
get his his nails cut or you could do it yourself,
but just don't cut them too short because they have
um like nerves, right, so they'll just I mean, if
you bring him to petcor or whatever, the don't know
how I'm saying, is it still gonna do this? How
do I do I need to do or something. I
don't suggest putting mittens because then he could fall, like
(34:36):
I don't know if you have stairs or anything like that.
And you know, like like I said, they do have
nerves there, so you don't want to cut them too short.
So you probably shouldn't do yourself bringing the petc and
don't know how to do it, But you can't necessarily
stop like the sound get listen to every problem and
yes there is you can get a carpet and then
you won't have that, Justina, I'm not getting carpet through
(34:58):
my whole house. Stop playing? Okay, right well, Jasina is
such a dog advocate you here. She said, do not
cut too short they have nerves. Be careful because people
just don't know. Like some people declaw their cats, and
I'm like, oh my god. Decline your cat is literally
like cutting your finger off like right here, like at
the first really, yes, that is part of their um
(35:21):
bone structure literally and not why do people do that?
Though they don't want them to have their nails but
that's like their defense mechanism. They need that, Like it's
very unnatural and very painful and gives them joint problems
later on. So yeah, I'm definitely an advocate for animals
because I feel like just a lot of people are
uneducated on it. But but you love uno ha, that's
(35:42):
like love y'all. That's face. That's not quote face. Oh
ship was that? I'm sorry, y'all. That was the charger
fell out the wall. I thought it was. Oh no,
but face your fears. That is the quote. Because I
literally got a dog because I'm terrified up dogs. I
forgot about that terrified. When I got him, I was
(36:03):
literally scared, like he would be jumpy and I would
be like, oh no, you're scaring me. But if even
now sometimes if he jumps on me, I'm like, all right,
you're giving me PTSD. They Yes, I got him to
face my fears, and now I'm not scared of dogs anymore.
When I see dogs, I look and I'm like little personalities.
I'm like, oh, I wonder how his personality is. Yes,
(36:24):
And I always say, there's no such thing as a
bad dog. There are people that raise or mistreat a dog.
To if you would use a dog or mistreat them
and then that dog bites someone. Well, of course, because
like if you were kept caged up and taunted and
not like fed and giving water and all that, you're
gonna you know, So the same things that could happen
(36:46):
to a human, um could happen to an animal if
they're in a bad environment. But I'm so glad you
love Uno. That's that's so cutes. Thank you San Swan
for coming on this show. You guys, today was a
great episode. Um, sant Joan is newer on Wilding Out,
so I hope you guys gotta just a good vibe
from him. Got to see his personality. He's so sweet,
(37:08):
so nice, so open, so warming, and um, you guys
should really follow him, look into him and look him up.
I know he's not a veteran on wilding Out, but
he is definitely came in the door kicking, made his name,
made his mark. He'd be on there doing black back
flips and cheering and you can sing. He's just so talented.
(37:29):
So y'all please check him out and support his journey
and go stop him and his boyfriend on Instagram. Yes,
he he really is and he's so supportive, He shows
so much love and like he said, he has definitely
left his mark. So definitely um check out Sandy sin Yes,
thank you all for rocking with us on the podcast.
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(00:47):
and I'm here with my girl, the one, the only
be Simone and uh you know what, yeah, baby girl,
we have a very special guest today. Be So I'm
excited for today's podcast. How are you living? How you feeling?
I'm good. I'm over here smacking. I'm trying to, you know,
set my face real quick. But we got on here.
I'm so excited. That's my phone, yes girl, my finger.
(01:08):
I don't know how to take it off the them.
I'm gonna put my phone on airplane. Put it on airplane, girl,
you fly, do not discern they got this new um
what is it called? The plant based meat? You wouldn't
even know. So I wouldn't even you gave up meat.
Well that's good because our guests today les than meat.
(01:30):
I'm playing, but I'm saying I ain't had meat year, girl.
I'm so sorry. Well it's it's one of my favorites
on the show. Um, you know what I mean. He
really impressed me. He came to the wild style, he wrote.
He also gave the ladies a soas he goes toe
to toe in the wild style, and that's our boot Stine. Hey, baby,
(02:00):
oh my god, what's up? We're already told now you
know my blood person and the rent, you know, but
weve to live in color. Baby. We're in this bitch.
We are six ft above ground and we're blessed. So
I'm grateful to be here front of these beautiful technical difficulties.
I didn't have no textical difficulties. They're never wrong. My
test over here, that's your all. Yeah, because I was like, wow, okay,
(02:20):
since one, he's kind of stole a little new to
be this bougie, you know what I mean. But he
had to get them test together. We had to get
it right, get it tight, Jesus. But we figured it
out and we're up there here now. So I know
y'all couldn't see him, but he had a little surprise
for us. Victoria's trying to chell my secrets. Jesus, is
(02:42):
that a secret? And who's Victoria? Hello? Well, you know
I'm trying to do a little some of my skin breathe,
you know. Um, I'll be honest. I do wear units,
and they are, you know, partly a blanket and partly
a crown. Because I do, I'll be a hundred and
fifty with it, and I do wear units, but I
wanted to let my hair breathe from minute. So I'm
giving you very much blackness, a clean Yes, Yes, he
(03:04):
got the fresh ball, the same thing. I mean, if
they take the guard maybe a little word, I would
be bald. I almost did the Jada Pinkett, but I
was like, hold on, we're gonna have to do Holly
Berry it. I don't know if I look I like
that length on you. Baby. She has a face for it.
She definitely is a face for it. Because you know,
my ass couldn't go bold. I'd be definitely call me justin.
(03:25):
I already know we already do ye right, So I'm
definitely I wouldn't already do it, right, but it looks
good on your baby Smash for sure, thank you. I
don't know if if that's a compliment or you know,
but anyway, you're like, God, so you telling me you
are smash, I'm like, is it still a jab? I
can't be sure. You know these queens, I here a
(03:46):
picky girl. So that's a good thing, okay for good Well, Sanswan.
For the people who don't know you, because you have
been like killing it since you've been on the show,
give us a little backstory on who Santwan is um
pre wild or like just kind of my journey from
the beginning. But that's who you are as a person
of personality everything. Oh gosh, Well, I am a young
(04:10):
black prince on the rise, and uh, I hail from
King Street, South Carolina. I was born there and uh
raised Virginia Beach and then I went to college at
the University of Louisville, and uh, I've been an athlete
all my life and started in baseball and could have
swore I was gonna go pro and then got bored
and and then became a cheerleader. I tried everything and
nothing really fully fulfilled like me. So in cheerleading, where
(04:33):
I could be you know, athletically challenged and I could
also feel like a normal person. Per se. I found
that I could be all of myself, and UH, I
went on to you know, gain over two hundred and
fifty national titles coaching, choreographing, and competing combined. UM a
four time Collegiate All American, an individual International champion, and
(04:53):
a five time world champion, including with Team USA. So
you know, I think basically, I just feel like, UM,
I just feel with my athletic background, I wanted to
you know, transition into what I really wanted to do
in life, and that's action, comedy, film and TV. And
I just felt that, you know, one of the very
few places that I could do such a thing, UM
(05:14):
and entertain it's entertainment, it's comedy, it's it's you know,
places like wilding out. And I really am grateful for
the opportunity. UM And I think my queens in here
can attest there's very few places where you feel like
you can fully be a queen and not just be yourself,
but to be received as your full self. So I
definitely think that this is just beyond a blessing to
be a part of this UM this crazy ass family man.
(05:36):
And that's just a little bit about me and where
I come from. I just come from an athletic background
where I get to, you know, being a sport that
I can completely be myself wholly and fully and be
embraced for it. In fact, So it sounds like you
definitely have, um the background, you know how to be
on a team, be a team player. And yeah, it
sounds like you achieved all your goals in the cheer world.
(05:57):
That's amazing. Two titles and and all that other stuff.
So I always wanted to be a cheerleader. Oh yeah,
let's hear a cheer beat beat my boyfriend beat eating names.
So so how did you get on? So how did
you get on wilding out Sandswan? Like, how did you
(06:19):
hear about the audition? Like tell us that and you're
so good, You're so funny, you are, Oh, thank you,
thank you. I had actually gotten a text from a
friend in Nashville, um, and I don't know from a
lot of same names or anything, but he just hit
me up and was like, bro, they're holding auditions like
down the street and like I lived up the street
(06:39):
from like Roscoe Chicken Waffles in l a and I
was like, let me just walk my happy ass down here,
and I just went on down to the street and
you know, went on down the street, was like heyo,
what y'all doing? And they let me come in do
my thing. And then I had been randomly flown in
for like two episodes and were like, good job. You know,
(07:01):
we we really loved having you. And you know, I
just was like, Wow, this was a really cool experience
and I'll never have it again, so I'm just gonna
soak this ship in. And I was in Germany doing
Koreo for a cheer gym out there and I had
randomly got an email it was like, we would love
to have you as part of our fifteen cycle. And
when I tell you about ship A Brick, I was like,
there's no way on playing earth. These people actually like
(07:22):
me and the rest is so confident. How do you
feel like wilding out is compared to like what you
see just being a viewer and actually being on the show,
because I know my first season, I was like, like
you said, Shift and Bricks so scared. It's so challenging
people think where they're just up there being goofy and
e condom and like, no, you have to be really talented,
quick on your toes, you have to think, you have
(07:44):
to practice. You don't want to bomb, you know, so
excuse me, Um, is it challenging for you? Do you
feel like it's what you thought it would be or
is it easier than you thought it would be? Like
tell the people a little bit about the BTS while now,
because people think we up there just hoo hoo hood
goofing off, and it's really challenging for me even still, Um,
I think it's it's almost exactly as I pictured it,
(08:08):
but just not God, how do I phrase this? It's
exactly what I thought it would be. It's it's hard work,
and it's it's not just the laughs. It's just it's
how we like present this thing to the world. And
in my head I wanted to I always want to
understand how every show like solves its Rubik's cube and
puts it like puzzle together, and you know, so when
(08:31):
I got in there and I just saw everybody doing
their own thing, and then if they want to, like
if they like you know, start freestyle and start spending
some off somebody somebody, just they just cling to it
and they're like sure, let's go. And it's always just
saying and it's always like, let's just let's kill it.
Let's see what we can make out of it. I
really was so surprised. And you know how people have
(08:51):
dominant personalities, but the thing is everyone's dominant personality comes
with an open arm of like, you know, I can
stand my own ground, bitch, like I can sit here
and get six seven million people to show up for
my video, or I can fill up an arena. However,
if you want to share space with me on this pedestal,
on this throne, or on this stage, then let's do
it and we can be a super over. So I
(09:11):
thought that was really that was so reassuring and humbling
and motivating, because you know, you never want to see
somebody that's this person X y Z up here in
the stratosphere, and when you walk in a room, you
never want to feel like, yo, I can't even talk
to that person because I feel like they're gonna just
ship and rain on my whole parade and they're gonna
make me feel like I ain't nothing. Everybody makes you
(09:32):
want to just hop on that little fast track and
just go, and it's dope. So for me seeing the
behind the scenes of how people work together, and they're like,
I don't really know what we're about to do, but like,
if you want to just pick a subject, let's go,
let's just let's see what happens, and let's get the
energy going, and let's go this direction and let's let's
let's get it. That to me, that to me is
one of the dopest thing. Yeah, I definitely felt welcomed.
(09:53):
I was a little nervous, you know. I definitely had
a mishap my first day. Um, and you know, I
thought that you know, um, you know, and I'm not
throwing nobody under the bus. It's no shade, it's nothing
for nobody to look into. But you know, somebody surprised
me with something and it threw me off because I
was like, you know, this isn't what this isn't the
(10:16):
presentation of myself I want to kind of get into
the first time, you know, I got a little gag
played on me with like you know, powder and stuff
and and and then I thought about it. I was like,
the person it's not necessarily what happens to you in
the in the world of wilding out is how you
react to it. That makes you the star, bitch. So
you can either take it and think, oh, this person
is malicious, this person is doing their own thing and
(10:38):
funk what I'm standing for, or you can say, how
do I turn around and make this funny? And in
that moment, I was like, what you're gonna do now, bitch?
And I turned around and I actually won the match.
So I'm very proud of that moment. So I was
real nervous. It's nothing to look into. You don't have
to call incorporate. But and the funny part argue about right,
And the funny part is who you're talking about because
(11:00):
it could only be one person, but right. But speaking
of standing your ground, Santowan, you are so on a
unapologetically you did. You feel like wilding Out was just
a space where you could be that and you didn't
have to come on and try to follow what anyone
else was doing on the show. You just knew that
you could be Santowan and you would be accepted and
(11:22):
be able to thrive just being yourself. Um, I was
ninety nine point certain that if I'm just myself and
I got the job, then I'm somewhat meant to be there,
now in order to stay in that motherfucker, then you
gotta be yourself and also pick up the learning curve
that everybody else's because everybody else don't have the rubric,
(11:43):
you know what I mean, They created their own and
they fit into how with what our team, what our
team captain, our coach now when he's like, this is
what we're gonna do today, and here's a challenge. No
Curson or no Dick jokes like when he does that,
like everyone else has to adapt. So I'm like, if
I'm here in the same space as these icons and
these Juggernauts have, then I'm clearly meant to start here
and do something. So I could, you know, I figured, hey,
(12:06):
let's go for it. And I don't ever want to
second guess myself, which I do quite often, but I figured,
if I'm in there, I might as well just continue
to be myself and unless if I change, it's me
stepping my pussy up in you know what I mean. Okay, So, okay,
step that pussy up. Sorry you hate that word step
step step Your cook is up Jesus sorry. Last season
(12:30):
a while about that I was on UM. Then we
was in the hotel room. We was out in Cali, Ontario, Ontario,
and youre a little da ding. They called to the room.
I was saying, room. It was like step one, worry,
(12:51):
are you out of your mind? Okay? No, I heard
a day day and it was like you gotta delivery.
Somebody sent you for hours and his boyfriend him flowers
and it was the sweetest thing ever. At that time,
I had a boyfriend and I said, just hilarious was
in there? I said, yes, you need to text my
(13:13):
man and tell him to do this ship because but
are you still with y'aboo? Are y'all getting married? What
is going on? Because y'all be posting and I'm like
every deadly love each other. Yes, oh that is my
better half, Kyle. I love you. If you ever hear
this year my absolute universe. Um so he's in He's
in Dallas right now, and yes, we are still together, thriving.
(13:36):
I just had to come back to Georgia to get
some dinner work done. But usually if I'm not having
to work on set on the project, I'm doing all
my ringwork and other work in Dallas and I'm a
house husband. I'm in my ugly business and you know,
I just I do what to do, and I just
make sure when I when I you know, am at
in Dallas at his place and he comes home like
he got a nice hot meal, some fresh laundry. Baby,
the slippers are warm, like I'm doing my husband ly duties.
(13:59):
Down we goals, yes, ma'am. And he's coming back in
the fall, uh to Georgia. So we're gonna, you know,
take the next step in life into our thing. I
moved to Georgia just um a look a little bit ago,
so I just didn't really make a just outside like
near Lake Lanier. Don't be don't be stalking me, y'all
at the important but I've been looking for me. Want
(14:21):
what comes through? What's up? Y'all? We are back with
the women a while and out podcast. It's your girl,
Justina Valentine here with my girl be some moan and
we got Santoine in the building. We are talking about
his love life, his career and how he is unapologetically
(14:45):
him and we love that about him. So y'all getting married,
you're planning to get married and all that or like, yeah,
we're gonna make the next organic steps and and do
the you know, engagement thing. When the time is right
and we want to set ourselves up for success in
the future. So yeah, out to a day in the
life of me. I know his his handle because you
you always But so I have a question, um, because
(15:06):
you said you're gonna take the next step, get married
and all that, who would be the one to propose?
Does it not matter? Does he have to do it?
Do you have to do it? Did y'all talk about that? Right?
We've spoken about, you know, certain future things, and basically, uh,
you know, I would love to because I like to
do surprises. He hates surprises. But also he's like, we're
(15:27):
both from the South, but you know, he is such
a country traditional, old school like like southern gentleman. So
I definitely think that would be something that is on
his soul. And you know, I think he's gonna do it.
You know, we talked about it, and I think it's
gonna be for him and I would love to have
my little moment, you know. So I'm gonna let him,
you know, do that, and I'm gonna put my hands
up in my face. Oh my god, he's gonna be
(15:51):
like I didn't know, but it's gonna be ten cameras
catching it. From every angle of video pictures you have
that motherfucker believe that. Okay, how did you know it
was the one though, Like because I'd be like, I'll
be thinking, guys are the one And then as you
can see, we get on the podcast a couple of
months later and I'm single again, so single A game
(16:12):
back on the prow thought was perfect. I don't know
how thank you training how well? Um, you know it started.
It was one of those things that it developed. Um,
and I saw him and of course, like you know,
love at first sight, but it was and it was
one of those things where it's like, you know, we
both had previously been in a relationship, that all that
whole thing. But it took us eight years too, kind
(16:33):
of really, eight years in a global pandemic for us
to slow down and really see each other. And you know,
he's always seen cheerleader Santoine out there on a hundred.
He's never one thing. One thing he really said to
me that got me. He was like, I have never
ever seen you sit back and like your shoulders relaxed.
I've never seen you take a deep breath and just
close your eyes and breathe. And he's like, just to
(16:53):
see you in a different light and relaxed. It's so
you know, mind blowing. And that's the thing that really
I might remember because he's like, I'm always just seeing
and you're always upright and everyone's in your face and
like you're just on all the time. I never get
to see relax and um. So it took a lot
for us to slow down and see each other and um,
after knowing each other for eight years and checking each other,
(17:13):
checking on each other like during our relationships, and then
checking in with each other after the relationships like and
just making sure each other is okay. And then finally
one day we just ended up um seeing each other
at a mutual friends pool party. And then man like
he just stepped on a mixtape. He literally stepped back
on a mix tape while we were talking and just
say is that to a mix tape? And just the
(17:34):
way he said it let me know everything I needed
to know his personality, his sense of humor, his groundedness
like his wittiness, his everything and his or his energy.
And when I tell you, I have never found a
better all around man in my life and I'm so
lucky for him. So what are what are the negatives though,
like every every relationship, No, not negatives, but the stuff
y'all have to work through. Obviously, every relationship has little problems,
(17:58):
whether they're big, small, microsop topic. Do you all have
like conversations? Have you ever had like a blown up
argument or anything? You know what's interesting, We've never actually
had a full out, like knocked down, drag out fight
because we've had so many natural, organic conversations over the
years and during our relationship of like how we like
to do things and just basically having a mutual consideration.
(18:19):
I'm not gonna sit here and pretend we're Miss America
and we're perfect. Like no, Like sometimes I'm like, hey,
I ordered a large fry, you didn't get one, but
you want one of mine, and we'll have a funny
like something I don't know, but like, we rarely have arguments.
Anytime we have um any kind of not debate but
real in depth discussions, it's us getting to know one
another and like um, like a race topic or like
(18:40):
a future children's topic or like you know, differences in
like how our parents are because I'm black country, he
white country, so you know, we we're trying to blend
our worlds, and so in order for us to shoot forward,
we have to take a second and pull back if
we want to slingshot, you know, through life in a
successful manner. And I think us taking a moment and
just getting to understanding each other's tone, how to treat
(19:01):
one another, and how to respect ourselves and each other,
and like how how how the world perceives us, and
just being considerate of everything of that person's world, but
still staying in your own land, go on your own speed.
So so traffic, Like we really try to make that
work in private. So when we're in public, nothing's fake,
it's not bullshit. So like we don't really argue. It's
like the only thing we like struggle with sometimes it's
(19:23):
like matches schedule so we can make sure we have
off time, Like we schedule our florid together. Yeah, you know,
we try to schedule our year out four to six
months in advance so we can actually have quality time.
So and you do, y'all do seem really respectful of
each other. Like I've never even seen you like on
set or anything like looking at anyone else, Like it's
(19:46):
always all about Kyle. You're always shouting him out, even
on the show. It's like we all know him by damn. Hey,
we know you and love right but that and you
guys look great to get other. So I'm happy for you.
But look, I want to play our version of fun
Mary kill all right, but we're gonna do We're gonna
(20:07):
little PG. Thirteen. We're gonna make it date married friend zone.
So we're gonna start with the ladies, all right. So
it's be myself and pretty v you gotta marry friend zone, okay,
period um, so date Mary friend zone and it is
pretty v b smone and Justina herself. I would friend
(20:31):
zone Justina so I can hang out with you all
the time, talk two brothers, you know what I mean,
like the branch and have a period. It's hello when
that's the best about worlds we could we want to
do And I would love to hang out with you
all the time and just shoot the ship. I would
love to. I would love to date be so she
could stop singing her boy friends. You'll probably that I
(20:53):
would love to take you on a date because I
feel like you just know what type of ship you
like and I would love to see you just out
there being pampered. I would love you to take you
on a day and then do like some special for
you and surprise you would like something interesting, like a
handwritten letter from like your grandmother that you never just go.
I want to do something special because I feel like
you like special Ship Titanic, you know what I mean.
I feel like you like special Ship. And I would, honestly,
(21:17):
I would honestly marry the ship out of me because
I'm obsessed with her. Um and she would still do
her thing and you know, and I would still do mine,
but I would just marry her because I feel like
I could just be with her all the time and like, yeah,
just laugh, Yeah you could be dancing on her little
island with her and like, you know, you hit that
(21:38):
little table she dances on. So look, now we gotta
do the guy's version. So we got Boris Kojo, Chris
Hemsworth and Jason Momoa. Why don't random as honestly right,
because I'm like, I'm I'm hoping I'm pronouncing everything right.
Let's put it up, not forget it, let's do let's
(22:00):
do Drake DC, Young Fly and Nick Cannon. Okay, I
would honestly, I would probably um friend Zone DC because
he's just a homie at heart, Like I feel like
I could just just shoot the ship with him, just
like he was, like it's just all love and it's
fun and it's constant like just laughter. So I mean,
you can't not have a good friend like that, like
(22:22):
a route at the bottom of your tree. Like that's
just a solid nigga right there, s my language. And
then I would. I would go on a date with Drake,
you know, just to see what it's like, do some
adventurous ship and like you know, getting club, you know
what I mean, like just to say I didn't like it, right,
you know, just some bullshit on like you know that.
But um, I would. I would honestly marry Nick because
(22:43):
I think that's it's it's just it's all around, like
it's not that like he find he got money and
like he funny, Like no, it's like and I'm not
listen right now, Nick, I'm not saying this because you're
my boss, nigga. I'm dead as serious. You are husband material,
ya know, y'all know they cannad I want to get
married again. Say that you don't, that's all right, but
(23:05):
you are husband material, sir, And you know who else
has my baby, my baby cow. So anyway, that's why
I really know y'all knew I was gonna say I'm
a writer. I'm like, okay, Kyle, yeah, girl, Okay, So
saying T Twine, you did the cheerlead and you did
(23:28):
the athletics stuff you didn't. Now you've done TV, even
on national TV. You got a man, Now you in love.
We talked about you. Excuse me, jes she's she's gagged
getting married. Where do you see yourself in five years?
Like you want to see all this going? I would
like to. I would like to in five years be
(23:50):
doing what I actually want to do, how I want
to do it, in a sense of like how y'all
do just on my personal scale where I see myself like,
I want to be that person who can do because
I feel like in Hollywood people for some reason just
don't think that other people are multi talented and actually
excel in multiple fields. So I would like to be
an action comedy hero for Marvel. I would like to
(24:11):
be that person that like is on a show on
the regular and it's producing and bringing up concepts and
writing music for other people and hosting awards shows, and
and I know that I can do this, and I
feel like I can explode inside when I explain this
as people because I know that I can and I
know I can do it on a level that's like unseen.
So you know, I'm not that immediate blueprint that agent
(24:33):
or manager somebody would say, I don't see it. That's
because it ain't been done before, bitch. That's why you
ain't seen. So in five years, that's where I want
to be, or at least starting to be on the
way to that married mind and my ugly business. And
then I'm probably having our first set of kids because
Colin are having twin boys and a girl. Um, do
(24:54):
you know who you're going to? Um, it's a long process,
but it's going to be like our DNA is gonna
be our kids. And we're having twin boys and I'm
not gonna tell you their names, but we're having a girl.
And basically one thing that me and Kyle say to
each other is I everything love you, UM and UM
we're gonna take the acronym of it. And her middle
name is gonna be AILI. How cute. Well, okay, so
(25:20):
are you gonna do like yours? Ferm for one kid?
And then his firm for another kid or not. But no,
like you can you can really miss the ship. You
can have your own. Yeah, and they just remove the
egg out if I'm if I'm remembering my research correctly,
because there's some gay couples that have their own actual
children and um yeah, man. So I just want to
(25:40):
be I'm not trying to. I hate to say this,
but I'm not trying to be a role model for
other games. I'm not trying to, you know, be the
first game president. I'm literally just trying to be the
best in my life. And if it happens inspired somebody, cool,
I'm I'm you know, I'm not trying to be Miss
America or Mr America, which I'm just trying to live
in America, thrive in this bitch. And I don't got
that much time, girl. I'm I'm about to be thirty
(26:01):
three next month, Honey, I don't you know what I mean?
I don't have this like I'm sixteen and I'm on
my way to superstart him. Know I've seen him pregnant.
You know I have to. I have to be offish
one my time, so I can't you do have time?
Two trains made when he was periods, keep rapping and
and to a concert that is old and he still
started out without getting it right around whatever. And you
(26:24):
know what stands on honestly, like the blessing is you
know you, like you said, you feel like you achieved
everything you wanted to achieve in your one career, which
was athletics, like mainly cheerleading, and now you're onto the
next part of your career. You're thriving, you're doing great,
You're you know, you've brought such a personality and a
different twist to wild and now. So I think everything
(26:47):
you're aiming for is a hundred percent attainable. And I
know you work hard and you're only concentrated on your
career and your man, so blinds on you keep focusing
on Yeah, peney, okay real quick because before we go,
before we go, we do want to quote from you,
so think about that. But what is a deal breaker
(27:07):
in your relationship? Have y'all talked about that? Because I'm
really big on non negotiable It's like I feel like
people like, if you do this, I'm leaving, and then
somebody does it and then they stay. So I'm like, well,
that's not a non negotiable if you can negotiate about it.
What it's like, y'all's non negotiables, Like, we are not
dealing with this. If this happens, I don't care. If
we're married, I don't care if we have two kids,
I am leaving you. I'm not dealing with that. Um. Nonegotiable.
(27:30):
To be honest, is if he buys me wings and
their drums and not flats period. I'm not playing with
your ask me, I'm not. It's like, and I know
it's people out there that's gonna hear this flats all
day now if you can hear them, you know me,
stop playing. No, Um, I feel like just one of
the things is sorry now just texting me. I'm gonna
(27:53):
beat it. Ask my golf this phone. But no, I
really honestly feel like truly blatant this respect and any
major form. And I know we all know we talked
about like it's just one of the things like if
you out here hoing, you know, and especially when you
are married, like if you're hoing out there and you
do what you're not supposed to do, and then you're
not really looking out for the longevity of the relationship
(28:15):
and ultimately the legacy of the family were starting, like
you know, it's not so we have and it's I.
That's obvious stuff. And I think, honestly, if I lose
if I or Kyle lose our passion for what we
do and we get stuck in life, that's a deal breaker.
But that's not me leaving. I think honestly, like, if
we lose passion or respect for one another, we're gonna
(28:35):
have to say, hey, hey, focus and let's go back
to what we was doing and make sure that we
keep that. And also, I don't a deal breaker for
me is if we lose our natural attraction and like
funness together, if that makes sense, like we we travel
the world together and do all these incredible things and
I want to do with our kids and and and
I don't think that I could ever stop loving him
(28:56):
or some would be a true deal breaker that I
didn't even at least try to mend first, because I'm
not gonna just give up and say, oh, well, I'm
walking out. I'm not. I'm not an idiot on both ends.
I'm not gonna let him repeatedly do something, um and
I'm not gonna just say fuck it at the drop
of a let the dime when I'm like, oh, ship,
so I don't feel right, you know. So it's it's
one of those things you gauge as you go because
everyone's situations are different. But you know, as of right now,
(29:19):
it's motherucking rainbows and sunshine. I'm the happiest motherfucker in
the park right now. So together, it will be um
a year and a half. Um, you don't have to
come up soon. Yeah, I was just gonna say that
you never been in a fight. Give it about another year,
you know. And that's the thing A lot of people
would look at me like, yo, that's puppy love, and
(29:39):
which it is, you know, technically, but when you known
each other eight years and you've got a real foundation,
that's a that's a different year and a half, you
know what I mean. That's why we don't argue and struggle,
and it's like, yo, we we just know how to
be amongst each other. And we were coexisting before we
started coexisting, so we got a little leg up. So well,
it don't seem like you guys are gonna lose the
passion anytime soon, because I see all them Instagram posts
(30:01):
of you guys booed up and doing it big. So
you know, I definitely wish you guys the best on that.
But you know, outside of UM, you and Kyl and
you guys traveling the world, what you guys that you're
working on right right new that the people can look
out for. I have a movie coming up in Marshall
I'll be filming. It's a quick little cameo, little shawam
pop I have and it's called Things like This, which
(30:22):
is very great. Thank you, Max Talisman and much appreciated. Um.
We have our next season coming up, can't wait to
see you. And then I will also be trying to
make a point this year to go to all my
friends comedy shows and support and be a real one
because I think them doing what they gotta do on
their own, it's beautiful. And then I am um. I
actually have a project right now. Hopefully UM it all
(30:43):
comes to fruition. But I just designed Georgia's Orange Bowl
and their national championship rings, so I'm crossing my fingers
that they take it and accept it because they are dope.
And um yeah, I got some treatments for some movies
that i'll be um trying to pitch soon and I'm
very excited at it. Yes, let's go. And your rings
(31:03):
are so dope, they are so nice. I supported I
got the silver one, you know, with the big sexy.
It's so fire. I love it. Also doubles as like
a little weapon if somebody tries to get crazy, because
that there's some weight is a body, y'all. I'm nervous.
My phone gonna die. I'm nervous. Give us a quote,
(31:24):
Give us a quote. Be yourself, Be yourself, bitch, uh,
And I really mean that, be yourself, but also better yourself.
Be better than you were yesterday. Stay in your own
l and go your own speed so it's no traffic.
You are you are and filling the blank and just
believe it. And I think people don't necessarily like really
(31:46):
lean towards quotes like that because they're like, you know,
it's cliche. But my thing is if it's the truest ship.
It's like, you can never build a real empire, right,
You can't build a sky scraper without a real foundation.
You gotta start at the same place. Well, where can
the people find you? Where can the people find um?
You guys can find me at I am Santoan on
(32:07):
all social media platforms all social media. I'm from Jersey
now um all social media platforms at I M, S
A and T W O N and uh or designed
by Santourana if you want to check out my ring
work and then you can find me on a while
and now acting a damn food. All right, Well, thank
you for coming through, Santoan. We love you, we appreciate you,
(32:28):
and we can't wait to see what the future has
because we know it's gonna bet we love. I truly
do love you both. And I look at everything you do.
Is if I'm the biggest fan, because I just I
really do think the world of you girls, and I
see what you do and I always just like just
kick a moment and I see you and I just
look at you and all because you guys are such
John y'all are so incredible and so sweet. I really
(32:50):
do mean. I look at her and I just think
back years ago and I'm just like, these motherfucker's are
giant and they're incredible, and they're right in front of
me and now they're friends, and I'm like, this is
so And you guys remain on the rise and you
stay elevating. So I'm I'm very very blessed to be
able to like just be in the same room with you.
And I love y'all to day. Thank you, saman I
(33:11):
love y'all your hands like, okay, already now cut it all,
cut all, hey, y'all. That was Santoine. We loved having
him here. But we're about to take a little breaky break.
(33:32):
We will be right back with some more women a while.
And now what's up, y'all? We are back with the
women a while. And now it's your girl, Justineau here
with my girl. Be some moan and we got our
(33:54):
boot in the building. Santoine, bing bong bing bang that up.
He was such a good um guest. Do y'all hear
my dog walking around, y'all? Hear that? Oh that's a
little y'all. Hear the little bit of pet. How's she doing?
And I was so excited when you got a dog.
You don't want big do? Right? How do I stop that?
Because it drives me to do I have to cut
(34:15):
his car? Well? I mean yeah, you have to either
get his his nails cut or you could do it yourself,
but just don't cut them too short because they have
um like nerves, right, so they'll just I mean, if
you bring him to petcor or whatever, the don't know
how I'm saying, is it still gonna do this? How
do I do I need to do or something. I
don't suggest putting mittens because then he could fall, like
(34:36):
I don't know if you have stairs or anything like that.
And you know, like like I said, they do have
nerves there, so you don't want to cut them too short.
So you probably shouldn't do yourself bringing the petc and
don't know how to do it, But you can't necessarily
stop like the sound get listen to every problem and
yes there is you can get a carpet and then
you won't have that, Justina, I'm not getting carpet through
(34:58):
my whole house. Stop playing? Okay, right well, Jasina is
such a dog advocate you here. She said, do not
cut too short they have nerves. Be careful because people
just don't know. Like some people declaw their cats, and
I'm like, oh my god. Decline your cat is literally
like cutting your finger off like right here, like at
the first really, yes, that is part of their um
(35:21):
bone structure literally and not why do people do that?
Though they don't want them to have their nails but
that's like their defense mechanism. They need that, Like it's
very unnatural and very painful and gives them joint problems
later on. So yeah, I'm definitely an advocate for animals
because I feel like just a lot of people are
uneducated on it. But but you love uno ha, that's
(35:42):
like love y'all. That's face. That's not quote face. Oh
ship was that? I'm sorry, y'all. That was the charger
fell out the wall. I thought it was. Oh no,
but face your fears. That is the quote. Because I
literally got a dog because I'm terrified up dogs. I
forgot about that terrified. When I got him, I was
(36:03):
literally scared, like he would be jumpy and I would
be like, oh no, you're scaring me. But if even
now sometimes if he jumps on me, I'm like, all right,
you're giving me PTSD. They Yes, I got him to
face my fears, and now I'm not scared of dogs anymore.
When I see dogs, I look and I'm like little personalities.
I'm like, oh, I wonder how his personality is. Yes,
(36:24):
And I always say, there's no such thing as a
bad dog. There are people that raise or mistreat a dog.
To if you would use a dog or mistreat them
and then that dog bites someone. Well, of course, because
like if you were kept caged up and taunted and
not like fed and giving water and all that, you're
gonna you know, So the same things that could happen
(36:46):
to a human, um could happen to an animal if
they're in a bad environment. But I'm so glad you
love Uno. That's that's so cutes. Thank you San Swan
for coming on this show. You guys, today was a
great episode. Um, sant Joan is newer on Wilding Out,
so I hope you guys gotta just a good vibe
from him. Got to see his personality. He's so sweet,
(37:08):
so nice, so open, so warming, and um, you guys
should really follow him, look into him and look him up.
I know he's not a veteran on wilding Out, but
he is definitely came in the door kicking, made his name,
made his mark. He'd be on there doing black back
flips and cheering and you can sing. He's just so talented.
(37:29):
So y'all please check him out and support his journey
and go stop him and his boyfriend on Instagram. Yes,
he he really is and he's so supportive, He shows
so much love and like he said, he has definitely
left his mark. So definitely um check out Sandy sin Yes,
thank you all for rocking with us on the podcast.
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