203 - Live at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta (2018)

Karen and Georgia cover the kidnapping of Barbara Mackle and the Barbie Bandits. With special guest Chuck Bryant.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
What what Lena.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Pass all over?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was ate it.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was big, big, it is happen. This is like
a real concert. Very cool.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Know we're not David Brian right, We're Eddy better.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Wow, Alena, what is up? Nice to see yuh ah,
so nice.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
We have our satanic carpet here.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes, we had some masons weave this carpet for us.
It's just a lot of very intense symbology. Only we
understand that we'll be looking at all night while we
worship our Lord. Yeah, guys, it's the second to the

(01:34):
last show of our fall tour.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Oh bye, so fast. It went by really, but we're happy,
excited to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, you guys have great food, Oh my god, I
appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And a great hotel room. It's the only harassing so god,
it's gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I did a thing I haven't got in so large
or which fills me with joy is that I ate
something outside of the hotel room. Always a good idea.
And went to a vintage store, which are like the
only two things I love?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Which one give you a plug?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Shit?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Oh but will, yeah it could will.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It could have been the good will.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Actually, I just broke into someone's house and stole her.
That's what I caught it Twitter.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
For me.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I ate at Mary Max though, Shit, that was amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now how did you get in? I got so.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I guess there's normally a long line, but we just
breezed right in at like two.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
No big deal. You're like the podcast, so you're gonna
want to see this in the window.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Probably.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Well when I put my name down to you know,
get seated, and then I just fucking love it being
here because I like, look, they were like, what's your name?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
And I'm like George, and they're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You must on the stake, come.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
On in Gariss to the Georgia Forte.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's pretty great.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
After like a lifetime of not having your name on
any you know, at any super air shops, at any bike.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
License plate or anything like that. Ever there's a ghost
fucking with it.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, she's then to see your goddamn name everywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It just like, it's pretty great. I love it.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, you should come here more off than I am.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I had some names on bike plates, but all I've
really ever.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Wanted was my name and a song, and I just
have that one super bummer James Taylor one where it's
about like.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Karen, look at her back, she's leaving again one of it.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Look at her look at her fast back ahead of shit,
she's leaving.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's what she's like. Get used to it. You know
that's on James Taylor, You, Karen, don't rely on her.
She won't pick you up.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's Karen Karen. Yeah, I guess I got lucky in
that department.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You louked up. I did you really did shit? I
had something I wanted to tell you now I can't
remember what it is.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Can I tell you that?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
When I ordered food today, I was like, all right,
I'm gonna get the fried chicken because I fucking love
fried chicken. But then I was like, maybe i'll get
some healthy signs, and I almost ordered healthy signes, and
then I did it.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Healthy fucking side No Georgia as an entire state, it's like,
we don't do those here.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Then I realized you can get a side order of
fried graduat.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, good stuff. Oh my god? Did you go right
into the movie You're.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Like, oh my god, look like Green Trado, Kathy Baits,
Happy Baits, and Gali Remain.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's right, I did it.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It has such a good anecdote right in front of
my brain. I'll remember it later.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Tell them what you're wearing?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh yeah, that's what could it be?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
That?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Could it be my dress with pockets? Yeah? Look at me,
Look at me in my pockets.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Everybody, look at me in my pocket storage.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I love them.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
It's the pocket's revolution.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Can you hold Can you hold my things? Yes?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I can hold every single one.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Of your things?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Look how the big my pockets are? Every easy? I'm gone,
I'm gone. I mean, she's a little the sun you
missed walk away. She's stole your microphone.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
I know.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, look at it, don't look at it? Can you
not do that?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I did it? Good job you. Let's see your dress?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh, this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
It's okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm just excited.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Well, I'm wearing my shoes that I got married in.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
But hey, nice falling apart. Not my marriage though, No
strong as ever.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I am excited though, because the stress fight whatever. But
I've decided that the next r I'm not wearing black
dresses anymore. I just can't fucking do it.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Oh my god, you heard it here first Twitter, Instagram,
let the social media world know.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
But truly, I just can't keep buying black dresses that
I'll never wear in real life when I have a
closet full of gorgeous vintage like crazy couch your grandma's
couch dresses.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
So is that what you're gonna do or you're gonna
walk us through your your collection of gorgeous ninches dressed
vintage dress.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Then I'll just hurt buying more too.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Hey, you should do a thing not unlike the Hometown Murder,
where you wear dressed from the city that we're in
that day.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
What if?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
What what if? That's it?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
This becomes a shopping podcast.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I will so happy.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
But that's it's gonna be hard to get into because
it's it's a podcast about us shopping.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
We're not gonna help you shop. There won't be any
interactive parts.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
But at the end of the show, will just unsit
my dress and hand it just shirt first, you have.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
To go to chills.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, that would be actually kind of fun to do,
Like you have to get your outfit that day.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
That'd be great fun for me.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
That'd be great. Well, I mean I'm saying I would
do with.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
You, okay, but then but then I would definitely be
sarcastic when I did it, where I'd like show up
in a Blockbuster video shirt and just be like, check
it out.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Motherfucker's anti glam Blockbuster video shirt is probably vintage too.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah you gotta imagine.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, they don't exist anyone.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, those fucking right wing assholes the work I'm in Domino's,
you know. Oh so that's the political part. Hey, this
is my favorite murder words. This is her new governor,
Karen Kikara.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And this is she superstar Georgia hard stuff.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
This guys, we got tripped into drinking Folgers backstage and
it was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's relationships.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
It was called some like it was like a bespoke
name that they did, like how sometimes cores will be like, no,
it's really like the cores from this other area of
our plant. That's like nice, it's for hipsters. It's nice stuff.
But this was like it was called like.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
Eighteen eighty two, and I was like, I love that year,
six years before Jack the Ripper, stuff like that, really
enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
And Vince is like, well, this is fucking Folgers, and really.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I'm like, god, I want it. God, co here ship,
this is the best.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Should we sit down. Yeah, let's just sit down. This
is a good chair. He feels like gorgeous, well worn
chair is It's like someone took grandpa's favorite See.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, there's no there's no padding. It's okay.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I might fall through the bottom of his chair.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's definitely got suddenly missing apart.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
We both pull out gifts.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh my god, and then the chairs just collapsed.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh those gifts were holding up the chair.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Steven's not here.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Oh yeah, guy, let him know.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
How do you feel how mad you are at him?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
He's gonna listen to this alone in his apartment, that's right,
and he needs to know that you care that he's
not here.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
They really were falling apart. There's a holing a part
right now. Yeah, but I don't care if you take
them off and throw them in the audience. I think
people will really be excited. I keep with the fucking
shoe heel and piled their eyes. He's not a bitch.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I used to like this podcast.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Don't I have to get them framed since I got
buried in them or something?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Is that what people do with their reading shoes?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
They frame them, frame them in a glass cube and
put them on your desk.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Light it and everything.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, the halogen lamp above it grands them, Yes, brons.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Your own shoes like a huge sexy baby.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
My fucking mom recently gave me my baby bronze shoes,
and I'm like, were these for.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
You to keep? Why the fuck do I have to have.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
These in white house? I already wore those. I don't
want them to.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
What kind of narcisses has their own bronze baby shoes
in my fucking house?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So why you kept dragging your finger along the counter
where you put the bronze baby shoes every time I
come over? There's like, anyway anything new in your life?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Because they're sure are two new bronze things in my life.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Look how tiny I once was?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So such a petite, skinny baby, kwy little. I was
hardly any fat.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Like, they couldn't find shoes to bit me. Oh, feet
were so skinny.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It was so sad.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I had to go into fetle sizes because I was
such a tiny baby.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
New business venture Stephen trademark.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
That idea, We're going to make a zillion dollars in
Los Angeles. I was like, oh, you wear kids sizes.
You can't fit into feetle okay, Okay.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Good luck of that. Okay, I have a great spinning instructor.
If you want her name, Oh my god, she is.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
An excellent level. You will love it.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I told you I had a friend that wouldn't stop
asking if I would go to a spinning.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Class with her.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
No, it's happened more than once. It's my friends stuff.
And finally I said, I'm gonna go to the spinning
class with you, and.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I'm gonna die during it, just to fuck you over.
I'm gonna have a massive coronary.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think that's a great idea.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Four frenchisors pop out of my mouth and you're gonna
have to clean up the body.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Stupid motherfucker. Leave me alone. I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Ride a still bike. That's the saddest thing of all time.
You're gonna ride it, Go the fuck outside.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Sorry, I don't agree with that statement. I agree with
you feeling that way about it.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Point counterpoint on spinning, Georgia, go for the pro side.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I mean, it's just saying there spinning on a bike.
I agree with you. I just are you're gonna drink
water the whole time.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, I'm an angrily drink water. Roll my eyes so hard,
but drink water.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Oh you look so hydrated and angry.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
You think I want to spin it off, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I want to retain, retain because you can tell that's
the new thing that's coming.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And we've already gone through the fucking nineties. Ally McBeal,
emaciation bullshit.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Big butts are now in, big boobs are coming.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
In, kind of classic.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean, big boobs have always good.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Big boobs is hard to shove those guys out of style,
thank god. But now I really feel like water retention
in the midsection is going to come in just waiting.
I am here for it, as the cool kids saying,
I'm eating pingles for it.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
It is.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
This is the one thing.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
And we've talked about this on tour before, but my problem,
my addiction is in almost every hotel room we stay
and they offer when you walk in the door, just
it's there waiting, a little half can of pringles and
a perfect little can just right for you.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's like it's just enough.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, you don't have to like, you know, it's not
until canon you're like, I know, I'm gonna eat those
whole thing and be bummed.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's like just as much it's just it's almost a
third of a stack of a pipe of pretty goals
is what the technical term is prettle swiping. And when
I eat them.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I called Georgia on the hotel phone and say I'm
about to lay some piet then.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I do. God, I wish that were true, and she says,
don't call me at this number.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
We have vandwich phone. This was the front desk. Your
friend Georgia sads, not to good story. I was gonna
tell you what, Oh no, what did you do? So
it was it's not that good. Actually sorry, I'm just
so thrilled. I remembered I'm still here.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Last night.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
We got in super late, but they had a twenty
four hour menu, so I was like, well, I'm just
going to get something tasteful and feminine of pizza. So
I called down it rings one hundred times and then
finally the most harried room service worker answers to and.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's like, yes, you're in fifteen o one. Who can
I help you with? We had we spoke to that
person too.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
He was very mad at us.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Out of his mind where it's like, I am I
understand it's busy, or you know, it's like it's.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Fucking it's like eleven thirty seven at night.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
How many people are pizza on a Thursday? What's happening
in this hotel?

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And he it was almost like he goes, I go,
can I just get a pizza and a Dike coke?
And goes in a Dike coke and he goes, oh,
it's going to take an hour and a half, almost
like he was complaining on my behalf.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like he was.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
He was upset about it more and he was the
only person that could change that time or make that
a different experience. But he was letting me know that
that sucked. And then so I well, like, there's nothing
I can do. I didn't I didn't say.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
This out loud. That'd be amazing, Like, well, sir, I
simply don't know what to do. I didn't eat dinner.
We just flew in.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
So I'm like, okay, well I just have to get it,
is what I said. And then as I'm saying that sentence,
he goes, no, no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Chef is look at me and telling me no pizza,
no pizza, We're out of pizza. Wow. And I go okay,
And I'm about to say like I'll pick something else
and he goes, no, no, the chef just told me
there's absolutely no pizza, and I go, I get it,
and I just hung out, oh and ingles.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And I you know what I did. I looked at
that second stack of pringles. I said, hello, friends, Hello,
mister mustache friend.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Your name is dinner tonight?

Speaker 3 (16:52):
And then I just drank a container of salt.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Right, just like, what's the new trend it is? I'm
gonna be so hot for winter? Do I go first?
Or do you go first? I believe it's you, friends, family,
all those here we go. I These limb shows are

(17:18):
so much fun to begin with. But it's also fun.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Because you find these fucking stories that you're like, how
have I never I never would have heard about that?

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Okay, a ghost behind you? Should I check?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Swear?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I'm not afraid. It's really scary. Oh hey, what's up?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
And we never saw her again? A caress?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
There she is? She died of was a bride, she
died of violent death here at this theater.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Or maybe it's you in a different time.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
It's stiff dimensional me. What do you like prinkles in
this timeline? Do you like pringles?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Great, I'm sorry so bad at improv.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Was it yes or no?

Speaker 9 (18:00):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You got it right? I panicked?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I panicked. Two choices are so many choices when you're panicking.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Okay, So this is the fucking bananas story of the kidnapping.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Of Barbara mackell. Oh you didn't even know about it.
I'm gonna tell you some do one person does? Yeah,
all right.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
In nineteen sixty eight, here Barbara Mackel is this lovely
twenty year old girl. She's enjoying her senior year at
Emory University in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Emmory, the fighting, the fighting, jabers, that's right, the chambers
go Emery Chambers. Oh they fight. They'll peck your eyes
out in some moment. The fine James squat squat.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, that's right. Just a'll go squat louder and louder there.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Until the other team leaves because they're embarranessed. This is
too nerdy.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
For us, Jaber, it's already with that scary Why are
they swalking at us? So it's almost Let me show
you a photo of her.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
What happened? Just a light drip mostly for the front route.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Okay, I don't know where to point this thing be there,
but it's not. It's usually Stephen and she is. Dude.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Huh, I think I did this one on a crime
to remember? Oh sure, I think if this is the
one I remember, Okay, don't talk.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
If this is the crime, I remember.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
The crime, did not remember? Pretty little thing.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Look at her, look at our little buttonose, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
There's a Christmas thing.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Okay, So, so she's not a jew.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You have to use context clues and put the mystery
together yourself.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's important. Pay attention.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Okay, it's almost Christmas break at Emrie University or everywhere probably.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
All around the blue. It made Christmas Break context blues po. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
And it seems that everyone in at school is getting
this crazy ass thing called the Hong Kong flu, which
is like Banana's epidemic virusy thing that had killed over
a million people.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Everyone's getting fucking sick of shit, right.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
And even though that totally sounds like something I would
make up to Colin to be late.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
To one yea.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
So even though Barbara is a real estate heiress, she's
not immune to this virus.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Can you believe it?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
You can have all the money in the world, you're
still gonna guess that's right.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
That's right, So shut up, Richie, shut up, Ritchie rich
So she comes down with the Hong Kong blue, but
she doesn't want to go home. She has her finals
to take still, So even though she's sick, she is
rich enough that her mother drove from their family home
in Florida to take care of her so she could
go to things well, up to class. Yes, so she's

(21:09):
rich in love. Yes, Sickr's Grove is where she's from,
which is richie rich places in Florida.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
So I can't my mother if I was sick and
had to go to class, she'd be like, good luck,
I hope you do well.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
My mom's got that like the slight munch housen fi
proxy thing where she's like the best mom when you're sick,
like it's lovely. If I ever, if I've never sick
and meet her, she's fucking there for me, not like
it is a dick Like that.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Was terrible to me to say, she's just there because
she loves.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Me, well, because she has a fucking in Florida.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I think you're right to be suspicious about her love.
I think you're right to doubt love it's very tricky.
I am so fucked up. Okay, Okay.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
So she comes to Georgia to take care of her
sick daughter for Christmas break. They're staying a few miles
from campus at the Roadway Inn, Indicatur, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's so gorgeous at the roadway in.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
That's where we're staying too. We love it, we love it.
Roadways only roadway in.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
On this turn, you pull right up in the door. Room.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Sorry, you sleep in the car.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
At around four am on December seventeenth, nineteen sixty eight,
still there, there's a knock at the door of their
room and a man is dressed as a fucking cop,
and he says he's a fucking cop, and he tells
Barbara that her boyfriend Stuart had been in a car accident.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
And to open the door, littermen, which you would do, you.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Would do in nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
These days, we know if you're a cop alerting me
about a car accident that already happened, you don't need
to be in my.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Fucking hotel room to tell me about it. Whisper it
through the fucking window. Call me on the phone. Why
you need to be in here?

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Near met me see your badge. Let me see your
badge is the fourth question to ask. So Barbara opens.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
The door to the cop and.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
And she's immediately hit with the fucking truth, which is
the man, not shockingly is not a cop.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
If he was, a story would.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Be older, but still interesting.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
His name, the guy's name is the not CoP's name
is Gary Christ He's a twenty three year old from
Miami who was a research assistant at SeaWorld. Could on
real quick. Yeah, we'll get into him more.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Well, I mean, like I'm just saying, he would go
on Wikipedia and look up stuff about orcas sis what.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
So he'd be on that microfish every weekend.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Micro microfish about fish and micro It's in there somewhere
about it.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's in their simple where it's right there. It's right there.
That's right there.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
And he isn't a cop.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
He had actually been stalking the Barbara for months, planning
her kidnapping. Okay, so let's go back in the fall
way before all this started, of nineteen sixty eight, this
guy Gary had gone to the Miami Public Library to
look at names on a social register he was looking for.
He gave a fake name and said he was researching

(24:31):
wealthy Floridians to learn about their work, habits, and personalities
for a psychological psychology dissertation. That's not true, No, it
is not me.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
It's a terribly concocted lie about the rich, that's right.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
But back then they were like, great, we'll give you
their social Security numbers and they can have everything anything
you want about them.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Palm address, pobo, right, parents name, exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
He was actually planning. In reality, Gary's planning one of the.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Most elaborate kidnapping plots in FBI history. This so this
dude Gary had escaped. He was like, he was like
a convict that had got he had escaped from prison
and on the run.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
But he was a really smart dude.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
So he got a fake name and was working at
a college as a research person.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Or a SeaWorld.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
It depends on what Wikipedia gress, it depends on what
paragraph you're looking at.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
And that's when he found when he was doing all
this research, but it was really looking Firson at that victim.
He found this guy Robert Michael, who was a wealthy
real estate developer with ties to President Nixon.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
And what Chris was looking.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
For was was a daughter who was a rich, tough
minded female. That's what he was specifically looking for because
he wanted to find someone who would stand up to
the trauma of being kidnapped and his crazy kidnapping planned.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Oh sorry, so yeah, so he was kind of casting
his victim was and he didn't want to feel bad
when it was over.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
So he was like, I need a sturney lady. Yeah
that can handle being pulled out of her roadway motor
loge at three am.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
He's like, I need.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Some one who is He doesn't want to you wouldn't
do it a child, he has, I guess scruples.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I don't know he would.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
He wouldn't do a whale because he loves fish.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
And he wanted you know, he tried to find this
pre Like, was he casting a fucking kidnapping victim, someone
who could like deal with the ordeal of being kidnapped.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well, I mean it's partially considerate. Yeah, I guess, thanks
for half. Thanks Gary.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
I'm sure when Barbara found out, she was like, thank you, Okay,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
And he found Barbara Mackle.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
She was the twenty year old daughter and he thought
she was the perfect victim.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
So let's see the macall family. They were.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
They were this crazy land developer people in Florida. They
changed landscape and demographics of Florida with their company, General
Development Corps, largest land development company of Florida.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Blah blah blah, who cares? I care?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Okay, they turned thousands of square miles of swampland and
thick woodland into residential communities for the middle class.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh, thank god you so much. So we're hey right
over put in a parking lot.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
And they also developed Marco Island and Port Saint Lucie.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Your shit, You have these guys to thank for your place.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
How about you write the maccles a letter for once?
Maybe this Christmas break, I could write them a nice note. Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
So back to the roadway in four am, when Barbara
opened the door. So Gary Kristen has accomplice, who is
a twenty six year old female named Ruth Eisman. Sheer
She's disguised as a man. They break the fuck in.
They rush inside and they chloroform Machael, Barbara's mom, and

(27:46):
tie her up, and then they force Barbara at gunpoint
in the back of their waiting car.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Can I just tell a quick story that I don't
know is fact? About that woman's the accomplice.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, is this the story you did for? Yeah, but
no it's not the truth.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Oh, this is just what I made up in my
mind when I heard this part of the story.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Absol because think this podcast is it's all bullshit, mostly bullshit.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
They work together at Sea Worlds or they met in college.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
So he escapes prison, right, and she meets him in college.
I think he's like working for one of the teachers.
He's super smart, and she's like, this guy's hot. I
might have a photo of him, but I'm scared it's
gonna what photo did I put up?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Roll those dice?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
There? He is?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, hello, Yeah, he's like.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
A Jason Manzukus kind.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Of if Jabe man Zukas was trying to hypnotize you
from across the party.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, after he got a nice haircut.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
If that guy was like, hey, do you want to
go down to the like coffee machine with me, I'd
be like, we sir, no, absolutely, long, well back into
your office.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
He looks crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
But she, this girl met him and then found out
about his escaping person.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I guess that nick must have been great because.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
She was like, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
She's like, you know what, it adds, it doesn't take away.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
So she was like, not only am I okay with this,
I am going to help you.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'll accomplish the shit at you.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I just imagine that her glasses are so thick that
her eyes are five times bigger than they actually ordered
me like, think we have a boat.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Oh please, okay, look at her. She's like yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
She's like, still waters, bitches, we don't have to be
bonds that.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Nick got that breakout, Dick, I got that Lorca Dick.
Holy shit, is in the end of this tour. I'm
out of my mind.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It fucking has because she was looking at her eyes.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
But she keeps her.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Hair short because she doesn't have time. She's getting so much.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Did you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
You gotta go three brushes and you're out.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
What fun?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
This is a job. So this is our job. We
get paid for the best lead.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
You pay ups in to me to talk shit to you.
Had all my life a true dream come true.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I could never imagine I'm gonna start crying do it? Hey?
How about them?

Speaker 4 (30:38):
In the television made for TV movie from nineteen ninety
called eighty three Hours, till dawn.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
That'll make sense more later.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's an exciting title.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Gary Dead Eye's Gary Christ is played by Peter Strauss.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Peter Strauss from from of course, how do you don't know?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I didn't even go where he's from because I figure
you'd always know this.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I mean, all I can think of is the guy
from airplane.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
That goes, sorry, go ahead. He's from six feet under.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Oh, can someone look it up on a computer?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Please?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
A desktop or not a sire laptops?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
The desktop?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Desktop? Only?

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Only is that Peter Stross josap Oh, it's.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
His father, Jerry.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
And Garbara is played by Samantha Mathis.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yes, she's usually.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
A blonde and she's from Lyn. She's from Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I don't know. Samantha Mathis wasn't a bunch of nineties movies.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
She was like a teen super Mario Mario Brothers.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
She was.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
What did you say our food critic right here? I
mean food critic, movie critic?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Do you be critic? We believe you? I believe you.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Well, I don't think any of this is real, okay,
all right, who cares?

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (32:09):
So so anyways, they chloroform the mong they kidnap barb
under the car and they drive her about twenty miles
away to a remote pines air grove in Gwynett County
near Duluth, such a powerful county where all the pines.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Are filled with pines.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
And then they okay, this gets hot, Okay, ready for
the bananas parts of this. They get her ready, get
they get to a spot, they tell her to climb
into a trench that they had dug for her.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
And I would be like, no, I will not do that.
Shoot me in the face, asshole, That's what I'd say.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
And you might as well, No, don't don't do that.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh, don't do don't do that. We've decided to for
you to not do.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Okay, but here's the thing. Don't let's not let's don't
forget this. Poor fucking girl.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Has the goddamn Hong Kong fucking that's right, so bad
that her mommy is taking care of her.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
And she's twenty, like that's hardcore.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
So she's just like, are you fucking kidding me? I
can't even neat a saltine. You're getting into a fucking She's.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Like, can I bring a hot water bottle down there
with me? Because I'm already very uncomfortable and rich.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
So at the bottom of this trench is a strategically
engineered fiberglass.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Box that they had made.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
It had a pump and two plastic pipes that gave
me barbarre air from the outside, and they had left food,
water that was laced with sedatives, and a battery powered
lamp for to keep her company. And then they buried
her fucking alive and spoiler, look, she survives. That's why
the that's why the movie is called eighty three hours.

(33:58):
I don't want you guys to get scared. That's why
the booty is called eighty three hours till Dog. It's
because she fucking hung out down there for eighty three hours.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Three hours is like almost two days.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
That a long. What's that in twenty eighteen years?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
In two eighteen years?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, that's fifteen years, that's right, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
The only cool thing about first of all, I'm picking
picturing those two lunatics making their own fiberglass bot.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I think that I don't. Okay, well, yeah, we turned
her day today. Yeah, we'll talk more about that.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
But then also cool of them to put sedatives in
the food, because that's you're married alive night night.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Come on, I'm wanna go night night please?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, or just a how about a ballpeen hammer I
can hit in.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
My own heads?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Just yeah, it's fucking coral.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
That's why, because I remember when he was like, I
want to find someone who's not gonna go crazy when
I kidnap them. This is why, because he's like, I
need someone who's got to fucking not lose their goddamn mind.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Gary, if you're going to do something where you have
to pick an incredibly strong individual because you're going to
bury them alive, sidestep that.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
And then go straight to what you're doing and give
that more of a think.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Never in there is a what the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I mean?

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Never?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Is it the strength of the woman that needs to
be worried about in my mind?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Okay, So then Gary takes a photograph of Barbara lying
down in the trench while she holds up a handwritten
sign that says kidnapped to be used for the ransom note.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
You'll want to see it. Yeah, okay, I have to
warn you.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
It kind of looks like she's smiling that she's actually
fucking They had already sedated the shit out of her,
so she's not smiling, but are you ready for your nightmare?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
So just so, she can't control her lip muscles anymore,
and they're just falling back.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
They're like, you, guys, this is how am I not
heard of this? Am I to say?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
That?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Looks like me a little bit? Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Did you're not? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
And I would be like, yes, keep them sedatives coming,
more pills. How scary? It's too close. Also, it's terrifying. Okay.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
So then what happens is they shovel two feet of
mud on top of the box and she would remain
there for three days aka eighty three hours, said three
hours eighty three hours in her book that she later
writes about it called eighty three hours. So Barbara calls
the experience she said, quote, I screamed and screamed. The

(36:37):
sound of the dirt got farther and farther away. Finally
I couldn't hear anything above. I screamed for a long
time after that.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
So Gary and Ruthie, I wish she had done yoga
or something. She probably did after, Yeah, I bet after
she was great at it.

Speaker 9 (36:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So Gary and ruth are kidnappers.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
They contact Robert Marva's dad and a man a ransom
of five hundred thousand dollars and I do have the
equivalent of today, it's three point five million. Oh shit,
that's a lot unfunny in exchange for Barbara's safe return
and Robert Robert Michael's played by Robert Did I already
say that Robert old Rich?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
No, that's who he's played by.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
We don't know who anyone is anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
So it's okay, is that skeet ole Rich's down? Okay?

Speaker 4 (37:23):
In the note, the kidnappers specified that the ransom is
to be put in a suitcase and that Robert had
to make a drop in the woods alone, and because
of Robert's connections with the president, the FBI Director Edgar
Hoover dispatches the man who investigated both Kennedy assassinations to
oversee the case.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You haven't the first one. It's your other fucking job
for five shooters on the hill, that's right, and maybe
the second one copy to some people who Hoover.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Calls the guy and he's like, I'm going to send
down the guy that investigate and they're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Thank you, okay, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Well, Barbara's never gonna be though, Okay, so Robert is
fucking determined to get his daughter back. Of course, he
gets all the money together, puts him inside a suitcase,
and he goes to bring it to a bridge that's near.
He goes to ring to the draw point.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
Great, but it.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Doesn't go smoothly because Robert gets fucking lost looking for
the drop off point.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Oh, dad, down's losing his shit. He can't No, I
don't need the map. It's I know it's around her summer.

Speaker 9 (38:31):
Great.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh this looks earlier. It's time okay.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
And meanwhile Gary is like hunkered down with binoculars, like,
where the fuck are they?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
This is super crazy, it's kind of a big deal.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
It's kind of a big deal.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
This is the moment.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
And finally he finds he finds the drop off spot,
and unfortunately the FBI, he's like waiting for this shit
to happen, didn't tell the local cops what was going on.
So the drop spot is right next to where the
local cops like to hang out and have like their
lunch in their car. So there's suit fucking cops sitting
in a car right by the draw point.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
And uh, I said, no cops, right, I didn't invite them.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
And they're like, we don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Everybody loves this bridge.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Gary grabs the money and he's coming down the fucking
he's he he is hanging out with a suitcase full
of money, a rifle and scuba gear when he happens
upon these suit fucking cops.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
And that look on his face. So he's like, what nothing,
that's a little storm.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
I love water fucking capers. He fucking starts to run.
They cops open fire.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
He gets away.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
And he had to fucking jump over a fence and
and he injures his growing pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
So there, Ruth, Yeah, no, it's great.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Eighty three hours to sunset or whatever. That it was
a it was like it was a particle physical comedy.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Not for Barbara, who's still fucking in that goddamn box.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
That poor baby.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
And then she goes, oh, lamp clow, this food is good.
It's just relaxing, Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
So then the FBI probably kicks the cops and the
dicks and is like what the fuck did you do?

Speaker 4 (40:25):
But after that they find Gary's abandoned car, and inside
the car they find a photographs of Gary and Ruth.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Some of them are naked photos just around the car.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
They're like polaroids are in the car, Gary Garry. They
took bloards and then just throw them over their shoulder.
They're just like the sixties.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Apparently there's a running khoto where he's got the cop
hat that he used to get into the house and
it's over his knee.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Maybe that might not be true.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Who wants some Miranda rights told you to make it up.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
I didn't make that up, but I saw that.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Suffer Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
And then they find that the car has registered it
to a person in the name of George Deacon. So uh,
the second rance to drop is successful, and so Gary
had to leave that money behind when he ran from
the cops. But he does get this this money, and
the FBI at that point traces this guy, George Deacon
to the University of Miami, where they realized that he
had built ventilated boxes for a living.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Oh maybe for Star Star Wars. No Sea World, same death,
same death, So maybe that's what it made. The same
characters he.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Must have made.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
H what do they call aquariums?

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Sure, it's our new theme of our podcast, right, And
so that's how he made the box to put.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Her in right, so he made us for a living.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
He was like, picture if we had a dolphin, but
he was a lady. She didn't need water.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
And then so George Deacon uh turns out is our
friend Gary.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
So it's one in the same oha to tell you that.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
So that's how we find out Deacon's boss at this
coffin building company is like, oh, and he hangs out
with this chick Ruth who has just like these eyes
that isn't.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
You know, I'm gonna make that box.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
So then the FBI contacts Oh that okay. Then the
fas contact by a local man in Georgia claiming it
just bought a small trailer from a man and found
some weird paperwork inside. They discovered was it sex paperwork?
Wasn't That's when they realized that George and Gary are
the same person, and that George is an escape from California.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Prison since nineteen sixty six.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Blah blah blah. They realize it's the same guy.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
That was Okay, Then on December twentieth, Gary calls and
gave a switchword operator calls.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
The you know zero, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
It's a thing you could do back.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Then, but it's more like a round thing.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, it took four minutes.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
He gives the FBI vague directions to where Barbara is buried.
He and then over one hundred FBI agents then spread
out in the area and they eventually they're yelling her
name and they can fucking hear knocking.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh that's how they find her in a forest.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Uh huh YEA well, nighttime.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Night night.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
No, but let's pretend it is.

Speaker 11 (43:17):
So.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
After being underground for eighty three fucking hours, Barbara's burial
site was located by searchers. They dug up the box,
and Barbara emerged, slightly dehydrated, but otherwise.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Unharmed because she's strong, probably needing an app What a night.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
There, I beg you.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Whatever FBI agent lifted her up out of that fucking
fiberglass box, She's like, marry me right now.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I propose to you whatever your name or space is,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
So Gary's recaptured and uh ironically captured at a place
in cordicop Port Charlotte, which is ironically a Mathel development.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
She gets on one of their islands.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
His accomplice was stupied out to the islands and then
got caught there.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Ruth is the first woman to be named to FBI's
ten Most Wanted List. Shit for her, she's eventually She's
eventually caught in Texas. She sentenced to seven years in
prison before being paroled. She's deported back to her native Honduras.
She's now a grandma and has a Facebook account and
I think he could find it.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
For real. She's like, oh, the sixties anyway, and.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
There's also the second of the sixties.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Right, Grandma, tell us a story about when you were younger.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
What's America like? She's like, why don't we focus on
the now.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Two months after his capture, Gary's tried in Georgia, where
he faces the death penalty, but the jurors acknowledged that
he tried to keep his victims alive and fulfilled his
promise to reveal where she.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Was buried, so they were like, you clown, it's okay.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
So he got life but he only served ten years. Shit,
and he's released on parole. He wrote a book himself
called The Man Life, The Man who Kidnapped Barbara Jane
McAll and then.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
It's like it was me. It just says it was me.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I did it.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And then that's pictures on the cover. He's like, it's
a me and my beard. We got this idea.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
But he also wrote a letter to.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Barbara apologizing apparently, which is like you could apologize by
getting in a pit for three fucking days.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
After Okay.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
So after his release, he's.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Allowed to attend medical school in Grenada, and it took
He earns a medical degree in two thousand and one.
He's approved by the Indiana Medical Licensing Guard and it
turns out.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
He's doctor death. It all comes together, full podcast circle,
that's right.

Speaker 11 (46:02):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
He worked as a position in Indiana until two thousand
and three and three because of some disciplinary action he
received because not because.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
He's a fucking kidnapper and he just he kept sticking
his whole arm in the aquarium.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
And they're just like, doctor heist. We can't have.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I don't know, but it's doctor heist, your doctor highest
you are your crime, Your name is your crime. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
He gets arrested again in two thousand and six or
some cocaine shit, go the prison again.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
He goes back and forth to prison.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
He's a lover of life.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
The only thing that I can tell you now is
he lives in rural Georgia today.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
You guys, marys.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Tonight, doctor high ship out here. He's not of a bitch.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
You put him in a box for the rest of
the show.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
But as for Barbara baccle, remember the guy knocked on
the door and was like, your boyfriend's been in an accident.
She ends up marrying that dude, Stuart Woodward.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And how did he fare in that accident?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Karen, There was no accident. There was no accident.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
She Barbara wrote the book in nineteen seventy one with
the late Miami Herald reporter and Public Serprise winner Gene
Miller eighty three Hours Still Dawn, which was made into
a TV movie.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Barbara and Stuart had two children, and they were married
for forty three years until Woodward's death in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Wow, not Barbara, Robert still alive.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Barbara, Barbara fucking badass.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Barbara has never spoken publicly about her ordeal since the
publication of her book.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
She when she was asked, let's say, I think they
have a photo.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Oh, that's the dish, really, yang, I know?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
And then here's her, she said when asked When asked
how she endured the harrowing experience. She claimed she knew
she wouldn't die in the box, and she imagined spending
Christmas with her family, and.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
That's how she survives.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
How she survived it. Oh fuck it insane kidnapping of
Barbara may Knuckle. Amaze.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Thank god it ended so nicely and she spent Christmas
with her parents. The only creepy thing is she doesn't
have a brother.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Look at his face.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
He just followed her for the rest of her life
after that.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Holding eighty three hours Christmas above her head.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And she's like, why are you the thing that's haunting me.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I don't know that's her brother, her boyfriend or what.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
But it's the boyfriend. That's bad news because.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
He's holding because he's holding.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Missileto over her dad's head. It's like, Barbara, we don't
know why you're dating this basketball player, but we think
he lets your dad. Oh my god, bananas amazing.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
That was great.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
It's so funny because I did that story on that show,
but I don't remember anything.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
All right, So I also want to do something a
little different. And I had never heard of this. It's
true crime. It isn't murder. It's the story of the
Barbie Bandits.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah, oh, you don't know the story of the two
thousand and seven Barbie Bandits Heather Johnston and Ashley Miller.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I don't. Okay, well you're about too you know. It
scared me just now. There's something on this document that is.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
That is oh no, the document we'll see.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Most of the information I got from this was from
a terrible, fucking id show called Pretty Bad Women.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Oh because they're pretty and they're bad. Oh, I d
you can do better than that.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Reminds me of every comedy show in Los Angeles in
the nineties.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
When I first moved there, it was all Pretty Funny Women.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I actually got the booked on a show at the
comedy store called Pretty Funny Women, and when I showed up,
the woman who booked it.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
It was her show. She goes, this is so great
because you're pretty and funny, and I was just like,
I have to go.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I couldn't find a parking spot, so I'm gonna bail
on this show and all of comedy all right, So
let's see. We'll start with Heather Johnston. So she was
actually the focus of an episode of Prime Time, which
you can watch on YouTube. That's pretty hilarious. Throughout this story,

(50:40):
the parents and the teachers and different people, they constantly
talk about that these two girls fell in with the
bad crowd.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I'm here to tell you, these two girls are a
bad They are the death finish, own it, go for it,
and they.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Really do so.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Heather Johnston is a suburban teenager. She's got every thing
going for her. She's a good student, she's a promising
tennis player. She dreams of someday being a swimsuit model.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Dare to dream, so do all of us.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I mean, wouldn't it be the best if you could
just stand around in his swim suit, no matter the weather,
with a bunch of strangers taking your picture, fritiking you
and telling you you're fat, even though.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
You've been starving for seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
But in her junior year of high school, she begins
to rebel. She starts dating a guy her parents don't
approve of.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
They say, you have to stop dating him. She says,
fuck you or something like that.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
One in the history of you have to stop dating him?
Has ever stopped dating him? No, it's the best when
your parents like we don't like him, We're like, yeah,
i'one to date, say, shut out.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
It's all I'm looking for in a man as someone
my parents hate. Yeah, parents, I think they've now parents
these days will learned that lesson where they're like, oh,
we're not going to tell you we hate him and
you can't stop seeing him.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
We're going to just get up into your life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
No, we love his face tattoo.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
It's nice. Make sure he comes to every dinner we have.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Okay, So she moves out of the house because her
parents are like, you have to stop dating him. She's like,
thank em drives away, and of course drives back three
months later, like he's the worst, and they're like, come
back and play tennis with us. So as to her
senior year of high school, she gets a college scholarship.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
It seems like everything is on course, and.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Then her mom in this primetime special says, we went
to the college orientation, but she seemed distracted, and that's
when I knew something was wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
So let's take a look at Heather's senior portrait.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Stone to the bone, and if there's right, so stove,
you can't have smaller eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
That means what yere is this? This is two thousand and.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Sigh, Okay, that sounds about right. The eyebrows Shane necklace, right,
I had one of those on in my senior future.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I always I had.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
One that was a choker and it just looked simple.
I looked like a bulldog. It's terrible, just like, take
that thing off. But Heather makes it work.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Uh huh. The only thing is to just you.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
If you wonder whether or not your child is on meth,
if they have eyebrows like that, they do, they're on meth.

Speaker 9 (53:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
If you can't leave your eyebrows alone, it's because something
is telling you to keep plucking, keep plucking, keep four
more hairs.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
You're almost perfect on me, move back, keep going. And
I know because I want to just I don't just
talk shit.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Oh my god, I'm not just going to talk shit
on Heather and not good up, not show my receipts.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Sure, how I know.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Stephen just called it nineties nis Karen.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
That is glorious.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I mean, I hadn't slept in seven weeks. In picture
so much speed coursing through my veins.

Speaker 9 (54:08):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
And that's I'm on medical grade fucking speed. And that's
as thin as I got.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Most people.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I was supposed to be Ali mcfeeling, and I was like, sorry,
nothing else goes away these everything else is staying right
where it is. My apologies, My apology is Hollywood. But
I can get these eyebrows a little smaller, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
What, can get scinnier my eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
My eyebrows, all right?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
So I thought you might put one up of me, of.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
You just doing a huge fine.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I didn't even know what existed.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Don't do drugs.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Don't do that for real, I mean at least not that.
We'll just tell you about fun things we did. Yeah,
don't do white drugs. Just specifying. Yeah, we trust you
with everything else, but fuck we step into that white
drug world. You're gonna end up a Barbie bandit ready, Okay,
So she tells the interviewer on Primetime, and this girl

(55:09):
is like the girl, the girl that did it. She says,
she just wanted to do something crazy, which is just
like you mean, like tons of drugs. So she gets
a job at a strip club called shooter Sally, which
I'm sure you've all been to and enjoys so much.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
After party at Shooters Shooters Allie, where all your dreams
of romance come through that sounds like a sexual indu.

Speaker 9 (55:33):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I don't want to understand. Well, yeah, I don't. I
think it's right there.

Speaker 11 (55:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
No no, no, no, no no no no no no
no no shooters, Ali no got it. Okay, It's called
a metaphor in literature, so okay. She also told the
host that she always loved dancing.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
I love dancing, don't we all?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
So now she's making that sweet, sweet stripper money. They
say between three and five hundred bucks a night.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
That's good shit. She's nineteen years old.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, And as Missy Elliott says, ain't no shame, baby,
do your thing.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Just make sure you're ahead of the game.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
That's the key.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
No judgments, no job judgments. You get that fuck of
money however you want.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Then you don't let.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
People tell you what to do. That's what's important.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
You get a savings account. Now'll just tell you what
to do. Put that money in a savings account, the
taxes on it.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I alady, for Christ's fucking's sake, I'll just put you
on the phone with my dad. He'll tell you all
the retirement's important because they're gonna want to strip forever, Karen,
there's a high rate of burnout. You're gonna get tired
of that bowl.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
You're gonna want to go into modern dance or squear dancing,
tap dancing.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
There's always tap, especially when you're older. That's right, Okay.
So then she finally breaks it to her parents that
she's stripping.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Which I'm sure was a calm conversation over a warm
mug of herbal tea.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
They kick her out of the house, of course.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
So that's when she moves in with her coworker and
best friend, Ashley Miller Okay, who's also a stripper at
Shooters Alley. Ashley was described by her high school teachers
as being quirky, fun and uh oh fun loving and
which is the same as fun, although it's more about her.

(57:37):
She was a cheerleader and she volunteered at a local
nursing home.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Here's her. This is her senior portrayal Hope.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Here she's tan and good friend with Bailey out of
jail and best friend would be sitting right next to saying, man,
we messed up.

Speaker 11 (57:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
This is what we call.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Foreshadowing in spring riding community. She was planning on going
to jail with her friend for years before it happened.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Also, that's an un it's an unaccredited and Jeff Foxworthy quote.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Are you serious? Which is there's a lot of feelings.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
She didn't credit anyone for that quote.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Isn't bullshit? She made her friends think that she had
a Jeff Foxworthy thought she must be a redneck.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
All right, so.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
I'm under that it says plans to major in business
administration at Gainesville College.

Speaker 11 (58:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
The fighting uh uh?

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Or william or Williams.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Orwellians fighting Llians.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Yeah, they're such a menacing, creepy crowd or Orwellians.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
They just creep you out, and so you just get
up the game, you forth of the games. These guys
are creepy.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I don't want to fight against a top fucking pig
and then the other guy.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah, god, this looks like the future looks bleak here.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I don't want to win. Not that not nice. I
don't know why it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I don't even This is a hard game.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
We started. It's a tough game, you know why.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Because you don't want to be uh, you don't want
to be too creative, You don't want to be undercreated.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
It's hard. It's hard to hit it, I think or
Williams was beautiful. Thank you, You're welcome. It turns out
that Heather and Ashley take over Shooters Alley. They take
over this gool okay, they take their high school asses
into Shooters Out, and everyone's like, oh my god, Christmas
is come early. Because it turns out that Ashley, after

(59:41):
high school, had gotten a.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Job at They won't say it in this in this
pretty Bad Girls show, they won't say it, but she
worked at Hooters. So they go all they describe Hooters
in all these different ways where it's like she already.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Worked at the place where she showed a lot of
body for her tips or whatever, where it just like
she had thick tights on her orange shorts, the biggest.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Suntan nylng she can find at the store, and then
white high top shoe yet not sexy, yet everyone still
had a boner.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
So God, as she's working at Hooters.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Or some such place, maybe an unfranchised right mom and
pop style sex waitress restaurant, sex.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Ew that's where you want it, near your wings?

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Yeah, oh god, So she's working there and doing the
fucking hard job of being waitress while at the same
time being like, take a fucking gander, now tit me,
and she thinks to herself, I could be making way
more money.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Just take my shirt off. Well they have a strip
club not there, and she's like, who got the zucchinis
or colds? Just weird, flat, unexciting boobs, but still the shorts.
None of this is written on thespavor You.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Didn't you didn't play on mis Ucchini's are coolest shock so.

Speaker 9 (01:01:15):
So like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Written.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
So she nopes out of Hooters, goes to the book
and shooter Sally where Oh your Drink's Come true, meets
her friend Heather.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
They're like, this is the best. Let's move in together.
They get an.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Apartment, they're making They're getting all their singles lit them
and piles at the end of the night again, drugs, bread, drugs,
hairsprand drugs and of course tweezers everywhere. Okay, I had
to pull some screenshots. Then I'm Steven's life hell because
we tried. We're supposed to get him all the pictures

(01:01:52):
we want to use in like the afternoon, so he
can put these nice mortises on everything and make sure
that basically only the first three hundred people can read
the little things that he writes there, and everyone else
is like, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Even know what's fucking going on. Okay. Also he puts
the newspaper Mortis, but like the picture could.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Be twice as big and insteadies like, but look at
my design.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 12 (01:02:14):
God bless him. Blessed even absolutely, I'm blessed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Even by criticizing him very thoroughly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Anyhow So, in this Pretty Bad Girl's re enactment, they
show the girls.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
This is them working at the strip club together. It's
a good one is drone come true. One's tall, one shore,
they're both blonde, they're both down. It's super exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
I think they said that Ashley would wear her cheerleading
She did a cheerleading theme.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Of course, that was her background. People love that. Go
with it, go with what works, right, People love cheerleading.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
They then cut from here and it's just these two girls.
These poor actresses were like, I got a partner, Like,
there's no lines. They're kind of fake stripping in this reenactment.
And then they cut to the guys in the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
What if you had to be the extra look creep
beer let's creak beer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
This is like fucking a scene from sling Blake got
caught into pretty Bad Girls or whatever. Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
This is what the first your first ten years in
Hollywood is like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
It's all this. You have to be an extra. Sorry,
you just look like a creepy dude that would be
in a strip. Love about this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Oh no, no, tis typecast? Oh my god, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
If I'm more scared of the spear or the stripper.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
Oh god, Oh I got a part in the TV show. Okay,
all right, scared, Okay, this is my favorite part.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
At one part, I'm watching this and I keep rewinding
to get this piece of information. It was like whatever
the date or time was some stupid shit that I
of course didn't include in it. And this is my
favorite part of this reenactment is she's stripping in her
brocktag is hanging out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Okay, someone could it run out there and fix that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
There's no costume department on this shoe. It was like,
b yo, b r a, you're on your own. None
of those extras. We're gonna be like, hey, put your
tag in.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
See your fucking thirty double a cup checks sticking out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
It is fucking depressing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, that's really depressive.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I watched it like this and then everything all the
TV producer in me is just like I immediately am
in the meeting with the costume department, I'm like, look,
this is a visual medium.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
I'm not trying to be a perfectionist. We're trying to
tell a story. Basic stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
People keeps him in the story.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
It's just I'm asking you to watch the monitor. That's
what I That's what I was doing at the five
point thirty today as I'm trying to fucking put this
story together.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Okay, So they in the midst of all of this,
they are hanging out one night and Ashley starts dating.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
A regular who's also an ex con.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Great idea, right, perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
It's like she's shitting where she eats in the almost
most literal sense of the term. And they the way
they keep telling the story first person and second person
is that one night they're.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
All joking about robbing a bank, and then the boyfriend goes, yeah,
we can rob a bank, and basically it's like, I'm
going to make.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Your dreams come through, bitches.

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
Oh I don't like that, so they right, yeah, yeah,
it's very undercutting disrespectful. It is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
So Heather and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Ashley both think they're all joking, right, and that it
was just something to talk about while they snorted their
one hundredth line of cocaine. But it turned out she's
boyfriend serious and he calls the next day, cocaine you do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I go the more.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Robbing a bank sounds like a great idea.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Yes, robbing a bank, starting a record label, food truck
stuff comes up a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Lot, right. Maybe doing a choreograph strip dance.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Are you trying to get me to tell my cocaine
story at the choreograph strip dance?

Speaker 9 (01:06:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
We didn't strip. We didn't strip, but we did at
my friend's birthday party. We all wore plaid skirts, black shirts,
black tights.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
My friend Dave wore plaid pajama bottoms in a black turtleleg.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
And then in the middle of the party, like right
when it was like getting exciting, we made everyone back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Up and we did a fully choreographed and rehearsed routine
to whip it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Did we get a photo?

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I wish if there was, it would just be me
with just tons of cocaine pouring out of my nums.
The fact that I'm not dead is proof that g
this is real. I'm not kidding. Okay. So okay, they
think they're joking cocaine style about robbing a bank. Yeah,

(01:07:09):
the boyfriend's absolutely serious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
He calls on the next morning and gives them very
specific instructions of the bank they need to go to,
what they need to write on the ransom note.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
The whole fucking thing is it a ransom note? The
t talking about to take charge? Man, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
It's nice when like he orders for you, and like
when he picks the place that you should go on
the date, and when he plans the bank robbery, he
makes you do for him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Okay, So they they get into so on February twenty seventh,
two thousand and seven, these two girls get up and
they kind of like throw themselves together and they get
into the car.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Later on, there's a picture of.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I saw a picture and I didn't want you to
see it. I just want to tell you about it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
But they did show a picture in this show of
the inside of the car and there were like no
less than four empty boxes of Newports.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yes, And I was like, these girls are smoking menthol cigarettes.
Things have taken a turn this serious shit. I yes,
when you're like, it's I'm gonna smoke, but it's also
like having a mint. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Whoa Okay, let's stop talking about menthol cigarettes for one second, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Can we?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Ever, it's not just so. Now they have this plan.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
They've been told you're gonna go rob a Bank of
America and they're like, sounds great, And they get into
the car they're driving to the Bank of America. They
realize they don't have any paper to write their ransom
note on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
It's so tip, do you have a paper? Paper?

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
I don't carry a no bit? Why the bay?

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
So that one girl gone to college scholarship. She's probably
fucking twice as smart as I am, but let's just generalize.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
So they don't have paper, they have to stop and
buy paper. Oh yes, honey. Then they get the note
dictated to them what it needs to say over the phone,
and then they go to the via a and they
walk in and they're standing there and they realize it's
the wrong via a.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
God, when you're in your like teens or like twenties,
you can't get shit right. No, He's like, I drank
so much Malibu run last night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
They had too many Ameretto sour and now and fuck
the what did I drinkle? The oh fucking melon balls.
That's like, if you want to get drunk but you
also like diabetes, you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Have to try this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
It's so delicious. Okay, they pull over.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
They write their ransom note on their brand new single
piece of paper because they're like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
We don't need any other paper.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
We have blackberries. I don't we don't get over those ones.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Flip up one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Sidekick, sidekick, we have tidy X, thank you sidekay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Also, when you know when they go into the wrong bank,
they're high as fun, right, they're high. So they have
to call the bank teller who's their inside man. So
the boy man has a friend who's a bank teller.
He's the inside man. He knows exactly what they all
need to do, got it. So he was the one
that told them I'm at the b of A. And

(01:10:24):
then they're like, we wanted to be a you weren't there,
And then he was like, no, bitches, wrong, fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Stop it. That's wrong. They were supposed to go to
the b of A inside the Atworth Kroger.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I love that Kroger, So they're pulling a bank heist
inside a fucking grocery stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
That sounds stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
It's highly dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I'm not a bank robbery yet, but that sounds really stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
I'm honestly, of all the drugs that we were on
in our at this age, I feel like if you
and I were doing this and then we got to
a krogerl we'd.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Be like, you know, let's not do this, Senate. More like,
let's get some fresh fruit and go back and watch movies.
Because this is dumb now, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
It's embarrassing just to go to a regular a bank
inside a grocery store. It's just like, I'm not poor,
it's just convenience. But still they stick with the plan. Oh,
keep going, keep going, no matter what matter and Ashley,
and that's what they do. So they put on what
in the primetime interview, Heather describes as her stunner shades.

(01:11:37):
Which are they both put on those humongous parasilt glasses.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Oh no, stunner. They were told to wear wigs, but
they just didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Those are too had in no way, I like, what
have you read to someone? I know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I'm sorry, I want to dip out really quick and
just say I love both of these girls dearly and
I'm shit on them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
But also how fun, how fucking fun would Ashley and
Heather be to just hang out with on a Friday
Where it's like, you know, when you make plans on
a Friday and you're like, oh, fine, we'll go to
TGI Fridays, nothing's gonna happen. Somebody's gonna say. They're like
the waiter, nothing's gonna happen, We're gonna go home.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Not when you invite these two none cases, they just be.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Like, you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
So we found this alley, let's all go walk down
it and they're like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Okay, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Heather and Ashley made us walk down the alley.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
It was the last night I've ever had it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
It was then we were on a train. We stole
a train somehow. What they party?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
They walk up to the inside man's Kroger Bank window,
you got it, and they passed them a note that says,
give us all your loose bills, no strapped cash, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Press the button, or we won't hesitate to kill you.
And meanwhile they're laughing, no, no, prind shades this is stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
We had to get out of your Did they have
a weapon? What's did they have a weapon?

Speaker 12 (01:13:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Just the weapon was that single piece of paper they
bought at the stationary store, paper cut air bre Oh
the cunner shape. They're just like, oh my god, this
is nuts. Okay. Also that note might as well at
the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
It might have said, also this is an inside job,
Like who knows who else would know that? It's called
straft cash versus loose You didn't know that right pressing
the button?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
People know about that butt okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
So this picture, of course is what makes them famous
because everyone's like, that's how they get the name the
Barbie Bandits. And the fact that they're laughing while they
rob a bank, like of course the press just where
they were like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
It is my birthday, thank you. This is blondes committing
a crop. Blonde committing a crime while laughing is like
everybody's done for the weekend. We appreciate it, we appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
So the inside man hands over eleven thousand dollars in
loose cash, but they have to stuff into a backpaund
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Yes, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Then they just leave having their picture taken one billion
times because it's a grocery store and a bank, so
there's just no end to the surveillance car mass.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
The people rogers know them because it's in the town
they live in.

Speaker 8 (01:14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Probably, Oh my god, there's Heather.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
I play tennis with her.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
What are you doing girl? Not now, not me?

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Stunner shades this crime committing crime?

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
What the book?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
So they walk out, They walk out into the parking lot.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
They get to their car, realize no one's following them,
no alarms have gone off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
They burst in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
They start laughing again, and they get into the car
and drive away. Honeys to say they got lost in
the whale, But that would.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Be a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
I thought that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
I thought their fucking keys are going to be locked
with their car. I was ready for a lie because
how cool would that be?

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Would be so good. Yeah, they realize, oh, I attached
my keys to the ransom note. Why so when they
divide up the money, they're only left with like two
thousand dollars each.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Oh, because they have to give the cut to the
inside van. They have to give the cut to the boyfriend,
and they kind of get more than these fuckingedias where
it's like that's a just work an extra week at the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Strip, Yeah, weeks more the fucking lee. You're doing it, girls,
you're already doing it. So they're like, and the boyfriend says, now,
just keep a low profile and everything will be fine.
Oh I bet they do. Yeah, they absolutely do.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
They What they do is they go to the mall. Well,
they change their clothes. Oh good, So they change out
of their crime blouses and they go to the mall
for a shopping screen. Oh hell, that's what you do, yeah,
moments after you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Rob a bank. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
So there's apparently a fancy salong hair called Carter and
Barnes that's in the mall. They went to Carter and
Barnes and asked to get their hair bleached Barbie style.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
And while they're there getting their hair done, their picture goes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
This picture goes up on the news and everyone in
the salon is talking about the Barbie bandits and they're
just sitting there like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
They can't say anything.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
So the police, when the police put this picture up,
they were like, if you know who these two people
are there, like, that's my god, that's obviously my daughter.
Hundreds of people called in and said that's Paras Sultan
no coole Richie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Yeah, and they actually do kind of mash them really well.

Speaker 9 (01:17:02):
They do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
It's really good.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Oh God, that gives me a flashback to two thousand
and seven.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
I mean, remember I remember when Paris Hilton first like
hit the scene and people would not stop talking about her,
and I thought to myself, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
It's the end of civilization. Little did I fucking know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Yeah, she's like, she is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Like the four horsemen of the apocalypse, just by herself,
she tried to tell us.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Yeah, okay, So almost immediately, everyone that knows them from
the strip club is like, listen, those are two high
school strippers that we all know in love.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
And support their art. So the cops immediately know it's them,
and they're just they're just looking for them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
So two days after the bank robbery, they get pulled
over in driving the getaway car, the same car that
I'm sure the park lot camera took a picture of
them in. Inside the car, they still have the original
ransom note, just balled up and thrown down.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Are you fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
And of course the new reports and then a big
bag of pot off.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So yeah, but this was before it was legal, so
it's bad, bad, bad, Also, Ashley had a huge bag of.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Ecstasy on her Oh shit, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
I mean you can cheer for it, but it's illegal
to having a big bag and throw it in the
trunk just for that one trip. If you have already
robbed the bag and you're kind of like on the
run in a way, don't put drugs in your pocket
just for a little while.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah, yeah, all of it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
She's like leaving, she's trying to pick what she's gonna
put in her purse, and she's like, big bagbacks to
see it now, I just want.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Okay. So they're both immediately arrested. It's two days later
with their nud lawn highlights Cole and Paris, right, yeah, yeah,
but look at those hot roots.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
They're like, oh fucking can you get this slightly more yellow?
It's two thousand and seven.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Look at those micro highlights. Yeah, oh that's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Go on, I have Also, we can just do a
quick eyebrow check on ass. Oh shit, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Those eyebrows just.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Want to just don't want to do anything too permanent
with the brows. They fight you coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Oh my god, those eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I can't even look at them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
They're still sad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Also, some people in their emotion, do they use a
camera that brings out all the redness in your skin.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
It's not fair. It's not fair, it's not star anyhow,
that's a new causes. Can we get in truth?

Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
What are they called mugshots? Get some What do you
call those the filters? Yes, just a nice deer filter.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
They could both be cats or deer or have very
large eyes for reasons no one can explain.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Okay, listen, those.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Dresss getting away the fuck out, and I'm like, okay, yes,
thank you. Lisa, who's Heather's mother, gets the call that
her daughter has been arrested. Her nineteen year old daughter
is facing up to ten years in prison for robbery,
and she's just like, but she was going to go
to Colic, So I picture her reacting. Heather, on the

(01:20:42):
other hand, is having a great old time. She's in
the interrogation room with two cops and they say it'll
it'll be better for.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
You if you just tell us where the money is.
So she pulls one thousand dollars out of her bra.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Yes, she want a little that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
She's just like, the cops are like, hold on, Jesus, yeah,
Jacob let's take a break. Everyone leaves the room. That
was too hot for the interrogation room.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Oh, she's like, makes it rain on two cops.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Heather, No, not now, Heather.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Scarface posters suddenly behind her. He put that up in
the interrogation room.

Speaker 8 (01:21:24):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
At the trial, Heather Johnson is sentenced to ten years
probation with community service. Ashley Miller pleads guilty to theft
and drug distribution, so she gets ten years new jail,
but she serves two years and then.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Is released on probation in twenty ten.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Bars.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
That's them. That's when their look really came together at
the trial. Wow, that's some hair.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
You had to have either of their hair for the
rest of your life, or their eyebrows or the eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
I can fill in the eyebrows. I can't. I can't
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Let's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
I am the literal opposite of any concept of a
blonde in any way.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
I would just be like, start looking at me. I
don't at the party, oh man, okay, well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Yeah, so Carlton and Blend or whatever moved to gold
Carter and Barnes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Carter and Barnes. Lady, gentlemen, for all your strip Bleach
needs two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
From masterminding the crime. Actually, actually his boyfriend gets ten
years in jail. The Superior Court Judge Mary Staley said
to him, for the theft.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
You used others, you orchestrated it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
You sat in the back and you put the pawns
out there to do it. And the bank teller, Yeah,
the bank teller who's already on five years probation. Wow,
he gets five years and then five years in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
And bank she's like, but come on back when you're
you know, whenever you're done.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Buddy sets more shit up at the old Kroger BVA.
So this is one of my favorite postscripts of all time. Oh,
by the way, the NAACP absolutely called for an investigation
into that case because the two hot, hot blonde, white
blonde girls were like, oh, I guess I'll get an

(01:23:20):
ankle bracelet and I'll do better later. And then the
two black guys were like, you go to jails? Was
about They did look into that two thousand and seven.
It's like it was twenty five, two fifty years ago.
But hopefully things like that can change in twenty eleven.
This is just a fun PostScript.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Ashley is arrested again Ashley.

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
Ashley was Nicole Ritchie. Okay, she's being played by Nicole Ritchie.
She got into it this fight outside of Ward.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
In a parking lot in twenty ten, and then reporting
officer who approached them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
It was two girls beating a woman that was on
the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Our friend Ashley was one of the beaters, and when
the cop walked up, he didn't name which one, but
he said one of the two women was beating the
woman on the ground with a knee length leather boot.

Speaker 13 (01:24:12):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
So the party has not ended for Ashley or hopefully Heather.
And that is the story of the Barbie Bandits and
his bad.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
That was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
It's nuts, right, Yeah, that was fun, twists and turns
everything you could want.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Well hometown time.

Speaker 13 (01:24:35):
Yes, yeah, we have a special guest for you, Vince'.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
It's not Vince. He is just bringing up Vince. Any
word from the tour booth. I used to have a
team all the sidekick. Oh really picked that thing open.
People were always checking the internet on there because one
that could do it was the sidekick the first as.

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
Far as I know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Okay, someone else said something else. All right, I'm gonna
go get the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Okay, okay, time zech, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
I should have some sidekick follow up question. That's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
We have a guest who's here from your hometown.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
We're really excited to have him.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
He's a friend of the podcast, has been real supported
from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yes, he has his own podcast. Yeah, guys, will.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
You please help us? Welcome from Stuff you should know
Chuck Bryant.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yeah, he's coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Harry comes.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Everyone, take your time, take a deep breath, let's think
about it for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
He also has a second podcast called Movie Crush.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Yeah, he has. He been on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
We did his son as a Lambs episode that was
quite fun, very much. Friend hire here.

Speaker 7 (01:26:06):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Yeahs you check crying.

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
Oh I'm so sorry. Whye wow he's fucking murdering crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
And you're from here, right, I mean you you said
you saw your first concert here. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
I saw in nineteen eighty three when I was twelve.

Speaker 11 (01:26:31):
I saw a cheap trick from up there, and I
saw you'll appreciate this the Amnesty International Tour from over there, and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Then listen, I got a place on city that era
of Yes, exactly nice.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
So yeah, being on stage here, thank you so much.
Dream come true.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Amazing, we agree. So tell us your hometown. Yeah, where
are you from?

Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
From Atlanta. I grew up into Capp County, went to
Ridan High School in the University.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Of Georgia, fighting.

Speaker 8 (01:27:11):
Vultures, soldiers, yeah, go vultures, culture, cultures, and then.

Speaker 11 (01:27:17):
Moved away a lot of years and have been back
for a while. So I went with a case that
I picked for a couple of reasons. One is because
it is a murder case, so it's very sad.

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
But she was a fucking bad ass along the way.
And there's the tiniest sliver of silver lining at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Great, we love those.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
It's small, but it's there.

Speaker 11 (01:27:37):
So it's a murder of Meredith Emerson that you all
probably remember us like ten years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:27:44):
And she went to the University of Georgia and was.

Speaker 11 (01:27:48):
Hiking one weekend in the National Forest with her dog
Ella on New Year's Day two thousand and eight. Wow,
and a fucking creep named Gary Hilton, who was like
sixty two years old.

Speaker 6 (01:28:02):
Right came upon her in the woods and he had
a dog.

Speaker 11 (01:28:07):
She had a dog's and she was like a grandpa
to her because she was twenty four and she was like, well,
we can go hiking together for a little while. I know,
so because she is twenty four and he's sixty one,
she like kind of got out in front of him
and left him. It was not a looped trail that
literally would have probably saved her life. She had to
double back and come back. And when she came back,

(01:28:28):
he was there with a fucking hunting knife, overpowered her.

Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
And the one thing that he told the cops.

Speaker 11 (01:28:35):
Later on was through this whole thing, she fought him
so hard until he was like and I didn't think she.

Speaker 6 (01:28:43):
Was going to fight anymore, and she kept fucking fighting.
She had I know, right, she had a blue belt
in some sort of.

Speaker 11 (01:28:52):
Martial art, and so fucking sad at her memorial service,
her instructor gave her a posthumous black belt, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:29:02):
So he ends up keeping her for seventy two hours
in the woods and in his van, driving her.

Speaker 11 (01:29:09):
To random ATMs to get money, and every single time,
I think at this point she starts to cooperate a
little bit, trying to save her life, and every single
time she gives them a fake number so it would
alert the bank and give a fucking trail of where
they're going nice.

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
She's on it, which was amazing. A couple of people
see them along the way.

Speaker 11 (01:29:29):
One is a former cop who was hiking that sees
the mess on the trail of like her barette and
water bottles and a dog leash, and he meets up
with these other people who are like, hey, I saw
a creep in the woods who looked like he wanted
us to leave, and none of them called the cops,
even though he was a former GOP.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
No, no, no.

Speaker 11 (01:29:49):
Eventually they released like the name of who they think
this person is. That guy eventually said, oh yeah, that's
definitely the fucking guy. He parks his van at the
end of the set need two hour or out at
the end at Ordeal, and it turns out that he
had tied her to a tree, went back to make
some coffee, came back and she it's so heartbreaking, was like,

(01:30:12):
I thought you had left and we're.

Speaker 6 (01:30:14):
Going to just leave me out here.

Speaker 7 (01:30:16):
So she was relieved to see him, and he fucking
killed her and cut her fucking head off, the worst
thing you could ever imagine.

Speaker 11 (01:30:26):
Yeah, then that's when these people are like, that's the guy.
That's the guy in the cab County, not too far
from here. I guess this all happened on a mountain
called Blood Mountain, by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
And.

Speaker 11 (01:30:41):
Someone called the cops and said, this guy, this van
that I saw in the news is at a gas
station and he's got bottles of bleach.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Get here now.

Speaker 11 (01:30:50):
So he was just about to start dousing his van
in bleach, not that it probably would have mattered. The
cops show up and arrest him. He agrees to a
plea deal to avoid the death penalty if he takes
her takes him to the body.

Speaker 6 (01:31:04):
Which he does, and they ask her mom. He releases
the dog by the way before he does.

Speaker 11 (01:31:10):
This, and he was like, it was really hard to
kill her because we had just been a few great
days together, I know. So they talked to the mom
in court about the plea deal and she said, I'm
fine with the flea deal because I want him to
rot in prison for as long as possible.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
And it was like the death.

Speaker 11 (01:31:31):
Penalty is too easy way out for this fucking assel.
So he does not get the death penalty. He gets
thirty years. Then they end up pinning a murder in
Florida on him. An elderly couple in North Carolina on
him and possibly this one other guy. And he got
life for the couple in North Carolina at times too

(01:31:52):
in the death penalty.

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
From Florida, because I guess it's the other role. And
I think he's still in prison today. The tiny sliver
of silver lining.

Speaker 11 (01:32:04):
Is they found the dog, oh four days later and
her Terrence took the dog in a Colorado and I
think this is the last year. But for ten years
afterward they had a Run for Ella, which was the
dog's name, which was a charity run to raise money
for organizations that help people feel safe.

Speaker 6 (01:32:24):
In national forests and on hiking truck.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Wow, that's great. Yeah, he's Nanda.

Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
Her name was Meredith Emerson and it was a really
big news in Atlanta.

Speaker 11 (01:32:35):
It was only ten years ago and she just apparently
just fucking kicked the ship out of the sky. Amazing
every opportunity and it's really the saddest thing every though.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Yeah, they always are. That was a perfectly done home. John.
Thank you so much, thank you, it's so kid. I'm
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Great Jock Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Everybody that's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Past podcast is one of the first big huge podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
He's like early early days. Oh oh, and also he
gave us this card that someone gave him. The Stay
Sexy Social.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Is happening here in Atlanta right It's benefits and the backlog.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
It's on Sunday this Sunday. Get more information.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
It's at www dot stay sexysocial dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Go to this and raise money for end the backlog.
Thank you so much for doing that. That's so awesome.
All your parents will be there. And thanks for getting
business cards made. See ship.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
We don't even have a business card.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
We have to get business cards day.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Also, Payne Lindsay's in the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Oh yeah too, oh yeah from upp in the Sea
with a fucking Atlanta child murders.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
We got all the pot the big time Atlanta podcasters
and I am.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
I love you, and not just because your name is Georgia,
but you guys are so supportive of us.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Thank you so much for telling us.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
It's ruined because we post our live shows.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Then the speeches that we give in the end are
always It sounds really hacky because we always say the
same thing, but it's very difficult to express the kind
of gratitude that we have for the listeners of this
podcast and the way you guys interact, the way you
guys support each other, the way you support us, the
way you show up, the way you're vocal. It's such

(01:34:53):
an incredible experience to feel disconnected to so many people
and have this many best friends, and we really thank
you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
And the reason the reason we say this like this
after every show is because, truly, the minute we walk
out on stage, it's this insane feeling of I can't
believe this is my fucking wife, but I get so lucky,
and it's all because of you guys being so supportive.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
So thank you guys, truly so much and we just
really really appreciate it. So thank you. Appreciate it is
what I meant to say. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Thank you, and Lena, we'll see you soon. We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Thank you, thank you, stay sexy and Hi Lena, thank you,