494 - Did You Just Call Me Baby?

This week, Georgia covers Australia’s Wanda Beach Murders.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Lave.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello, welcome to My Favorite Murder.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
That's Georgia Heart Start.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's Karen Kilgariff. This is the.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Podcast that we've been making for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Remember us us from.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
The twenty sixteen High House Your Choker.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Do just anything pre twenty twenty is choker? I saw
this like meme that was like here's a video from
twenty ten where they didn't have, you know, their phones
recording everything all the time, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Like, yes, we did, Yes they fucking did twenty ten,
Yes they did.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, when did that? I feel like cell phones came
into like constant use, like two thousand and two, two
thousand and three, I would say.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Two thousand and eight, maybe six or eight?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
How old was I twenty six?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, later than that.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Later well, like well, iPhones, I like slip phones. The
idea that you can make a call from your car,
I think was like came into I just remember my
friend getting a phone and me being like, hey, can
I use your phone? And she would start to get
mad where I'm like, oh, this is costing you money
every time I use it?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh the car phone? She her actual iPhone.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, just it wasn't an iPhone. It was the little
Motorola flip phone and that era.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
My friend had the what's the one that you flipped BlackBerry? Yes? Yeah,
And it was like, oh, she's a drug dealer. Yeah,
she's got phone.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
She's got to put it in write deal drugs nine
one one, it's drug time.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
All right, Well, how are you very good?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Uh huh? What did you what if you been doing lately?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Nothing? Reading a lot?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
What are you reading? So?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I found two books by this author named Abigail Dean
British so it's red and British accent, oh, which we love. Sure,
it's the first one. The one that I write is
called Girl A. And it's about like, remember you know
the stories about like the family that the dad is
like a crazy religious person and ends up like keeping
them all locked into the house. And this is about

(02:07):
the oldest girl who escapes that situation, frees all her siblings.
She goes by Girl A because she's a minor so
they don't say her name, and about her life now
when she's older in her life than and leading up
to her having to escape.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's fucking incredible.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
True story or fiction ocasional but like clearly based on
some true things.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Holy shit, Like I'm on my second listen of it.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh wow, yeah, girl a because there's so many things
that you don't put together till the end, because there's
totally twists in it.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Say the author's name again, Abigail Dean amazing and.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
The other books she wrote that I read is called
Day One also incredible. Like, highly recommend both of those books.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, cool. I just found out that the I think
it was like late eighties early nineties version of Anne
of green Gables, which is I think the Canadian TV
series is on TV is on Prime. Okay, I'm happy
for you, and so you can go back and we
can all go back and watch Anne of green Gates,
this series that reminds me. I watched a movie over

(03:09):
the weekend. I'm happy for you. Was it a recommendation
of mine?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Probably? And I don't know if I liked it?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Okay, it's just gonna be controversial, sure sense and sensibility.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It wasn't for you.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I just didn't like the pairings, right, Snaithe should have
been with Emma, I know, and Hugh should have been
with Kate. I know that he was so adorable, and
I didn't expect to think of him so adorably, and
that story is like, it was a good movie. I
just couldn't get past Snake, the pairings. You know.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
You're like, I can't believe that this warlock is just
walking around.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Snape and Rose from Titanic do not belong together.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
That's just it. They're a mismatch. And she's like, no way,
I would never consider you. And then basically is like.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Then she lowers her standards, like I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
No, she learns what real love looks and feels like,
which Willoughby fucking heavin all the Willoughby's of my life.
I swear to God, I love sad.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
At the moment of him at the end crying because
you're like, that's what I want to see my ex.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's doing. We need that. We need him weeping. All
of us who have been willoughbiede the fuck out need
the moment where it's like and then that son of
a bitch turns look, we are we are that moment, Karen.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm not sorry to tell you, but all the Willoughbies
are like, holy.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Shit, Yeah, good job, yeah, good job.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Do you thank you?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
We did it?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Actually, this feels pretty satisfying. Right now, this is our
Willoughby moment. I've never thought of it this way.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You're a success, You're a success story. You're a fucking
Caitlin's leaving the fucking church with snape.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
However, if snape was a podcast deal, right and you're living,
you're a willoughbyiede and he's fucking writing off into his
sad little life.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
So yeah, congratulations on your wow you too.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's a great way to look at sense and sensibility.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Now do you like it? I like it? Now, listen,
don't come after me. I did like the movie. I
thought it was great.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I just was like, but no, yes, but when are
they gonna swap right?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I mean no, I know, but I do love that.
It's like, first of all, Alan Rickman one of the.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Great sorry Snape, Yes, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, but the way he plays that part where you're like,
in the beginning, you're like, you's not gonna like you, but.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
It turns out he's like the best dude.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
And it just is that lesson for girls where it's like, yeah,
this kind of love feels great because you're basically being
fed sugar water, right, and then you're gonna spin out
and be by yourself when he's just like, what I
didn't like?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
You have to do that in your twenties, have fun.
But when a guy buys you a fucking piano or
whatever it is that you're interested in, and is like,
what's it called supporting, supporting or encouraging these things that
he thinks make you great because they do.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, then that's the guy.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yes, not the guy that's just like, here, let me
ruin your tarnish.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Your reputation, cut your hair off.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Remember the lock of her phone, that's right to keep it.
The part that before she gets sick, where she goes,
she keeps looking for him, keeps looking for him. I'm like,
it's very triggering for me because I did all that.
I just want to say, though I was on speed,
so it's kind of not fair. I like the level

(06:21):
to which I made it full of myself too. That movie,
it just puts the feeling back which she goes to
the like the big ball, and she sees him and goes.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And everyone herns, I fucking did that outside a guy's work,
of course, Why isn't he calling it back? I know
time he gets off work, I'm gonna go stand out front, dude.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
We've all done it twenty years.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Old, so bad. I actually remember the one time I
didn't do it. I saw this guy that I was
doing stuff like that, and he walked right by me,
and like, if I had just reached out went oh
my god, Hi, what are you doing, he would have
had to stop and say hi. But instead I just
literally like good Homer simpsoned into the wall and then
just like let him pass. And then that was the
beginning of like, you have to stop, right, you have

(07:03):
to stop telling yourself he's doing what you're doing because
you're just doing a bunch of stuff and he's.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And he's not that great. What is that term?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
That psychological term for when you're obsessed with people, but
it's not about them, it's about.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Limers, limmerens, it's full on limerens, this guy.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
These guys were not worth a fucking moment of my time.
I wasn't obsessing about them. I was obsessing about me
and my life, and I just transferred it onto these
fucking boring ass beige dudes.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
But it doesn't matter, because you just have to go
through it and learn it. Yeah, but I wish you
didn't go goddamn.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
All right, find your snape. Mine's name is Vince. He's incredible.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's a great life when you allow someone to be
nice to you, yep, you know, yeah, when you think
you're worth being nice.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
To, when they care about the thing that you're putting
your heart and soul into and they want to make
it better for you instead of I can't anyway, I
can't even give you an example. All right.

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Yell, will be at us please. All right, So this
is my solo episode. This is my time to shine.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Everybody be quiet, I'm talking all right.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, in the pain of doing some kind of epic
episodes and epic stories for solos, today, I'm doing a
story that we've referenced many times in talking about other
unsolved cases. It's one of the biggest cold cases in
Australian history and one that has haunted the country for
about sixty years. Today, I'm going to tell you the

(10:54):
tragic story of the unsolved murders of two teenage girls
in the nineteen sixties, Wanda Beach murders. All right, Well,
the main source iies for this story is the very
first episode of the incredible Australian true crime podcast.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Case File that we all know Dary Web.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yes, we've talked about it many times in the show,
and the rest of the sources can be found in
the show notes.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Case File is incredible. If you've never gotten to listen
to it and you have a case that you're obsessed with,
it's one of the most comprehensively reported, like thoroughly reported podcasts.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's amazing without any of the pomp and circumstance that
you find here on My favorite murder yes.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Or just yeah, the kind of general conversational aspect, it's
just business, business, business.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
And anonymous, which I find so cool. Like it's been
around so long and he's still anonymous. Can you imagine, yeah,
you and I being anonymous? That would be well, what.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Would be the point. Didn't we do all of this
for attention in the first place? Is and forever I
really learned that lesson. Didn't we okay.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
So on the morning of Tuesday, January twelfth, nineteen sixty
five year old boy named Peter Smith is walking in
an area of Sydney called the Wanda Beach sand Hills.
It's a long series of dunes by the ocean south
of the city. So I am not from a place
that has dunes, so I always figured like they weren't
very secluded, just like rolling hills of sand. But apparently

(12:17):
they're like, you know, like the dune murder that you covered. Yeah,
what was that called Lady of the Dunes. It's like
big sweeping hills, So you can get like privacy in
those dunes, which I find interesting.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's weird because like even in the dunes near Dylan
Beach where I grew up, it's not like there's a
ton of them, but you truly go over a hill
and then you can't see anything passed between where the
dunes are and where.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
The houses start. Wow, I've never been in a place
like that before. I think I wouldn't have imagined that.
So he's there in the dunes. Peter is with his
three young nephews at the time, and he sees in
the dunes what looks at first like a mannequin, and
then he quickly realizes that's not what he's looking at.
Peter realizes he's looking at the body of a teenage
girl partially buried in the sand, and he sprints to

(13:00):
the nearby Wanda Surf Club to get help.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
He tells the caretaker at the club.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
What he's found and they call the police. When the
police arrived, Peter brings him to the spot where he
made this horrifying discovery. It's only then that the police
see that next to the body Peter discovered is another
foot sticking out of the sand. Soon they realize that
these are the bodies of two teenage girls who had
been reported missing just in the wee hours without same morning.
Their names are Marianne Schmidt and Christine Sharick and they

(13:27):
are both just fifteen years old. So let's go back
to the day before Monday, January eleventh, the nineteen sixty five,
Marianne and Christine set off by train for the popular
beach south of Sydney called Cranulla Beach. This is how
you'd refer to the larger beach area and then the
Wanda Beach and those dunes is the name of the
smaller beach next to it, so it's a small location

(13:49):
in a bigger location. With the teenage girls are four
of Marianne's younger siblings. The girls are from a town
called west Ryde which is northwest of Sydney, and it's
not particularly close to Nala Beach, but it's like a
two hour journey, but it seems like it's the best
closest place to go in Australia. It's summer vacation in
Australia even though it's January.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
How to dates work backwards?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, and Maryanne Christine had been to the speech recently
on New Year's Day, so it's not like anything new.
Marianne Schmidt's family had immigrated to Australia from Germany in
nineteen fifty eight. Her parents are Helmet and Elizabeth Schmidt,
and she has five siblings, Helmet Junior, who is a
year older than Marianne, and then her younger siblings Hans, Peter, Trixie,

(14:32):
Wolfgang and Norbert.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Those are great names.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
In nineteen sixty three, two years before the murders, Helmet Senior,
the father dies of Hodgkins lymphoma. So Elizabeth the mother
is a widow with six kids. The Schmidt family lives
next door to a couple named Jim and Jeannette Taig,
and these are Christine's grandparents, and so Christine lives with them,
and so Christina Marianne become fast friends. Both girls are

(14:58):
described as well behind caved, pretty quiet and shy, pretty
innocent girls. They love music, they love particularly Elvis Presley,
and they're almost always together. It sounds like they're pretty sheltered,
as is normal for suburban girls of that time. Marianne's
mom goes into the hospital for surgery in early January,
and so Marianne and Helmut Junior, her big brother, are

(15:20):
left in charge of all the younger kids. So on
the ninth of January, Marianne and Christine had gotten permission
to take some of those younger kids to the beach.
So everyone the little kids except Helmut Junior and Hans
are going. And so that group is the teenage girls
and then Peter who is ten, Trixie who's nine, Wolfgang
who's seven, and Norbert who's five. So on the day

(15:43):
of this beach trip, Christine had mentioned to her grandmother
that they might take the group over to Wanda Beach,
and the Sandhills. Christine says she and Marianne had wandered
there previously, but Christine's grandmother tells her that'll be too
far to walk for the little kids, tells her not
to go to stay at the main beach. It's unclear
if Christine's grandmother knows this, but the Wanda sand Hills

(16:03):
are actually known to be an area where people go
for privacy, meaning it's also a place where couples go
to have sex, but also where you can find creeps
and voyeurs and all kinds of unsavory characters. Yeah, so
maybe that's why she told him not to.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Go over there, because it's like this perfect little hiding spot.
It's like a little sand ravine behind.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
The hookup spot, probably right right. And while Cronola is
a beautifully maintained public beach, the sand hills are full
of litter. They're not monitored at all. It's a much
more desolate area. And so it sounds like on their
previous trip to the beach, Christine and Marine had wandered
on these sand hills already, but it's unclear who, if anyone,
they met there, but it is a cool, kind of

(16:45):
unique spot anyways, So it's not weird that they would
have wandered there, So the kids set out around ten am.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
On the train.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Witnesses see the girls get into a conversation with a
teenage boy who looks about fifteen years old. There's not
much more of a description of him than that. When
the kids have to change trains to get on the
one that brings them to the beach, the boy stays.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Behind on the original train.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
They never id him or figure out who he was,
and everyone gets to the beach a at around eleven am.
When there, the weather is not great for swimming. It's windy,
the seas are choppy, and people are warned not to
go in, but Wolfgang really wants to go in, so
Marian takes him in the shallow end just for a
little bit, and then the kids all sit down by
some rocks with their lunch. So while this is happening,

(17:29):
the girls talk to another teenage boy who was hunting
for crabs, and then they go their separate ways. The
older girls decide to take everyone for a walk in
the sand hills, despite warnings from Christine's grandma, and again
it's a pretty far walk from the main beach, and
the kids are pretty young. So this whole story is
like were they going to meet someone or was it
totally happenstance. It doesn't completely make sense that they wandered

(17:53):
there and met someone. It seems almost like they were
looking for someone. Maybe they had met them the last
time they were at the beach, seems that way.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And it seems like little kids at the beach would
want to be in the water, right, Like they don't
want to be like up in the dunes walking around.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
And the walk is a mile from the main beach,
which is a long walk for like it's like five
and seven year olds. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Like I don't think they would have volunteered to go
do that.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, and just like you just want to be where
the action is, which is down by the water. Everybody
else is yeah right right around.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
When they get to those sand hills where they start,
the younger kids are tired, They don't want to go
any further. The girls tell them to sit down. They said,
they'll walk back to the rocks where they left their stuff.
Then they'll come back for the kids and they'll all
head home. They're going to grab their stuff and they
can go. But the older girls don't walk back in
the direction of the rocks where their stuff is. They
keep heading north toward the sand hills. When the older sibling, Peter,

(18:44):
who's nine, you know, points is out to them, the
girls just kind of laugh it off and keep going.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
So what does it mean?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, you know, we don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Ten minutes pass, and then Peter sends seven year old
Wolfgang to go look for the girls. From a distance,
Wolfgang sees the girls talking to a boy who he
later says looks about sixteen years old. He says the
boy was wearing gray pants, no shirt, and had long
blonde hair. He's very tan and has white sunblock on
his nose, and he's holding a blue towel. And this

(19:14):
is from a seven year old though, and later after
this trauma happens, so you know, it's hard to know
exactly how accurate this is of what he saw.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, you don't want to base anything on yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Right, Wolfgang says. The boy seemed angry and was asking
the girls their names.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
He says.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
The three of them then walk farther into the sand hills,
and then Wolfgang loses sight of them, and he stays
in that same spot and after about ten minutes, Wolfgang
sees the same teenager walking out of the sand hills,
this time alone. He says his beach towel is now
tied around his neck, and Wolfgang asks the boy where
the girls are, and the older boy ignores him and

(19:50):
keeps walking. Wolfgang will later add two crucial details to
his testimony. First, he says that this is the same
boy the group had seen earlier who had been hunting crabs.
And second that he says that when he saw the
boy talking to the girls, the boy had what he
described as a hunting knife attached to his belt, and
when the boy is walking back to the beach after
without the girls, the knife is gone. But all of

(20:13):
this comes out in drips, and apparently the details change
a bit as he's relaying it to the police later. Remember,
he's only seven years old, and we don't know if
this guy had anything to actually do with it in
the first place. Yeah, doesn't mean that he was actually
a suspect, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
It also doesn't mean that the police didn't coerce some
sort of like, well, did you see anybody you see
a knife? You know they got stabbed, yes, Because to
me it seems like thinking of it the average seven
year old. There's a lot of details in that that
are like maybe they're absolutely from him and he was
super observant whatever, but it doesn't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, like my nephew who's got young, I could totally
see being like fed information and not realizing he's just
trying to please you or he's trying to Yeah, maybe
has a memory that's not real.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I mean because it's the mid sixties, right, yeah, yeah,
so none of that coercion stuff is even beginning right
in police questioning.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Right, and not to say that it's on purpose, but
it's just easy to feed information to kids. Yeah, all right,
So Wolfgang rejoins the other kids after he's you know,
doesn't see the girls come back, and they kids wait
for the rest of the afternoon, but they know the
last train home leaves at six pm, So at around
five o'clock they start making their way back down the beach.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
So scary, I know, like, what do we do? Yes,
what do we do?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah? So scary.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
They retrieve their belongings by the rocks where they left him,
and they make the two hour train ride home. All
of this is done under the supervision of Peter who's
nine again. When they get home around eight o'clock, they
tell their families about the girl's disappearance, and it's at
that point that the girls' families call the police because
it's just so at a character, you know, these like shy,
well behaved girls to disappear.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And poor Peter had to like make a call totally.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
He had to wait the two hours to get home, yep,
and then he had to get those kids on that
train correctly, totally.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Any also had to be like, what I'm going to
do now is go home and then tell them when
I get there. Right.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Something's often, I know it, but I have to get
these kids home. Yes, it's horrifying awful. The police respond
to the call around midnight. Like many of these cases
that we talked about, the police are not immediately worried
or fired up about the disappearance of teenage girls. They're
inclined to think that they went somewhere willingly. But the
fact that they were generally known to be responsible, happy girls,

(22:27):
and that they left all the kids at the beach
is even then seen as concerning the next morning. When
the girl's bodies are discovered, investigators descend upon the beach,
and the missing.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Girls are quickly identified.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
The girls had been mostly covered with sand, but it
seems like it was because the wind had blown the
sand over them overnight, not that they were buried, which
seems like a crucial detail, but who knows. About one
hundred feet away from where the girls are found, investigators
find blood and signs of a struggle.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
There's a drag mark leading from.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
This area to where both the girls were found, and
this leads investigators to believe that Marianne had been killed
roughly in the place where her body was found, and
that perhaps Christine had tried to run away and was
chased down and killed about one hundred feet away and
then dragged to the place where both of the girls
were found.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Horrifying, I know, and also just like knowing that right
over that dune, like so close are these little kids, right,
so they're in danger, but then they're also like we're
all in danger.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Along the drag marks there are places with higher concentrations
of blood, leading investigators to believe that whoever dragged her
had to stop several times to take breaks. And this
is important because Christine was a very petite girl, so
this makes investigators think that her killer maybe wasn't particularly strong,
which again leads us to a teenage boy making sense

(23:50):
as the culprit.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Ya know what I mean. Yeah, So, tire.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Tracks are found about thirty meters away. Investigators think the
killer may have left in the car, but it's not
known if those tire tracks had anything to do with
what's going on with the girl's bodies being found. There's
a road, it's not very busy, but who knows.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
If enough wind blew to cover them in sand, then
couldn't those tire tracks be new from that morning? Totally? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
So both girls had been brutally attacked and the details
are so awful that they are never fully released to
the public.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Wo I know.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Both girls had been stabbed multiple times, Both had been
sexually assaulted. Christine had been also hit in the head
with a blunt object. Police believe this may have been
a rock, but there are many possibilities, which is what's
so frustrating about this case. They believe the instrument used
for the stabbing may have been a fishing knife. Police
recover a semen sample, though it's nineteen sixty five, of course,
so it's not as crucial as it would later be

(24:46):
or thought to be as crucial. The pathologist is unable
to estimate a precise time of death. Since the girls
had been buried in hot sand. He can only estimate
that their deaths had occurred between two pm and midnight,
and this is just another baffling part. Christine is also
found to have undigested cabbage and celery in her stomach.
She also had a blood alcohol reading that would suggest

(25:07):
that she had either one drink very shortly before she died,
or several drinks over the course of the hours leading
to her death. None of the kids report having seen
Christine drinking. She hadn't brought any alcohol with her at all,
and so the first possibility seems more likely to me.
It sounds like, if the teenage boy theory is right,

(25:28):
you meet this hot teenage boy on the beach, He's like,
want a swig from my flask?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
You want it?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Seem cool? You take a swig. So that's the one drink,
you know.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I definitely would have done it personally, absolutely, And that's
kind of like that's what the beach is for. It's
like fun times. For sure.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
We used to take a bus to Newport Beach when
we should not have been anywhere near that fucking.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well because it's free, it's a public place. There's people,
you know, there's going to be people there.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sketchiest people, ske sketchiest people.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
The weird thing is, though, when you say cabbage and
then I'm like celery, sounds like she had a bloody mary.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
No, okay, let me finish this. Okay, So she didn't
have alcohol with her stuff. She also but she also
didn't have anything containing cabbage and celery that she brought
to the beach. But these ingredients are commonly found in
an Australian snack called a chicko roll, which is basically
like a cross between a spring roll and a burrito.
She would have had to have eaten this within an
hour of her death. So where did she get that?

(26:26):
Right at the same place where she got a swig
of alcohol. All of this information leads investigators to believe
that Christine may have been given food and alcohol by
her killer. Police bring all the kids back to the
sand Hills to retrace their steps and tell them everything
they remember. She's like, I know Tramama City. This is
where Wolfgang story about the teenager he first saw starts emerging.

(26:48):
Sounds like the detail about him caring what he thought
was a hunting knife would have come out after he
knew the.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Girls had been stabbed.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
So, as we said, still the media runs with the
idea that police are looking for a surfer looking teenager.
I can't help but think of Spiccoli, like that's the look, you.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Know what I mean, right, And usually those dudes, if
they truly are surfers, they're like, listen, I just came
back here to get high. I could please don't bother me.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Like totally, or hey, here's some cute teenage girls right,
like you know, but he's a bad news, bad actor. Yeah,
they get thousands of tips, the problem being, of course,
that that look for teenage boys in Australia, to tell
you it is fucking everyone. Yeah, you know, a massive
search of the dunes takes place.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
With long hair beat long hair nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
I like long hair and the nose, the like zinc
oxide on the nose. Another girl would have met a
guy like that at that same beach at some time
in the past six it's been like I know who
that guy is totally. Yeah, and maybe they did. Yeah maybe,
I'm sure tons of tips, thousands of tips come in.
A massive search of the dunes takes place, with thousands
of investigators, aided by the army, digging up thousands of

(27:53):
pounds of stand and sifting it. In the end, investigators
find a one inch section of a knife blade that
is found to have tracemounts of blood on it. It's
unclear if this had been part of the murder weapon,
though the pathologists did believe that some of Christine's wounds
could have come from a broken blade, so it's possible.
Good police read the girl's diaries and find out that

(28:13):
on the girl's initial visit to the beach on New
Year's Day, about two weeks before they took the siblings,
they girls had met and kissed two teenage boys. Which
is the point of going to the beach when you're
a teenager.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
That's right, and the reason you go back hoping to
see those totally.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, The boys are known to the public only by
their first names, Ted and Jim. Police make an appeal
for those boys to come forward, and they do, and
they confirm that they had met the girls on the
beach on New Year's Day, but they said they never
made plans to meet them again, and both the boys
have allibies that check out, so they were cleared. But
it does seem like they're going back to the beach

(28:50):
for the same reason, right, But then why bring their siblings,
their little siblings.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
They had no choice because they basically were babysitting, So
it's like we'll make a day of it and then
hopefully see those boys.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
There, right, or it's an excuse to go, like let
our parents go there again. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
So many people believe that the girls had planned to
meet someone in the sand Hills that day, since they
were so adamant about going, despite having the kids with them,
and despite warnings from Christine's grandmother not to take the kids.
And again, remember when they walked away and the brother
was like, that's not the direction you're supposed to go in,
and they laughed it off and kept going. Yeah, that
seems like they were purposely going to meet someone.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It also feels like maybe if that was their first
foray into beach culture, like it's like, you know, those
boys are like come over here, this is where people
drink or do this, or that they're still going to
do it. Find someone like little kids, you go have
your fun over by the water. It will be right back.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I mean I did that many times.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Still, if they were going to meet someone, it doesn't
really make any sense because it's nineteen sixty five. They
were supposed to have gone the day before. You can't
really reschedule. So as police sort through thousands of tips,
they focus on testimony from a man named Dennis dot
who reports having seen the girls hurrying through the sand
hills on the day of their murder and thought he

(30:06):
saw one of them looking over their shoulder, as if
someone was following them. Dennis is the last known person
to have seen the girls. He hadn't seen anyone else
with the girls, so he says, but he had seen
other people in the sand hills. He describes a tall,
pale man who looked about nineteen years old, and a stockier,
older man, maybe in his forties. Neither of these men

(30:28):
are identified or come forward, but other witnesses come forward
with descriptions of several other people they saw in the
dunes that day, and police get descriptions of about eight
people who may have been in the area at the time.
Because remember, this is the place where people meet up
for nefarious acts. Sure you know, so no one's coming
forward to be like, yeah, I was there that day

(30:48):
cheating on my wife.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I were buying hush and having secret sex.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Right exactly, Like that's not going to happen, right.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
But also, can I just point out, and I could
be completely wrong about this, but if I'm just doing
my try to solve it as we go, you must
that guy saying he saw a tall, skinny, pale guy
and a short dark like, yes, I hate when that happens.
It's like, that seems like a lie, that.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Seems like something you made up. Yeah, totally, Like, yeah,
this guy's the fish too.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah. So why is a tall, pale guy in the
dunes that that pale guy would be in his room?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
It's a really good point.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
The pale guy doesn't want to be there, that's a
really good point. Was he holding a map going where's
the subway? Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Why is a pale guy at the beach? That's a
great question.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
That doesn't make sense, I say, as a pale person
who has definitely gone to the beach.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
A bunch police make an appeal for people to come forward.
They release a map of the area that they're particularly
interested in, and this does generate some new witness testimonies.
People hadn't realized how close to the crime scene they
had been that day because those secluded dunes. I mean,
it's so creepy, But none of the testimonies lead to
any suspects. Police officers are posted up in the sand dunes.

(31:57):
They dresses sunbathers like undercover. They're looking for any people
who were described by other witnesses, particularly of course that
teenager that wolfgang had seen. But nothing comes of it
because of course he's not going to go back to
the scene of the crime.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
We're going to go get a buzz cut and get
that zinc off his nose, Like if that's the guy.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, pale guy's gonna get a tan.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Pale, pale guy's desperately laying out as fast as he can.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
By the end of January, a reward is issued for
ten thousand pounds. Shortly after this, Australia adopts the Australian
dollar and the reward becomes twenty thousand Australian dollars. So
ten thousand pounds is twenty thousand Australian dollars in today's money.
You want to guess how much it's impossible it's we've
got pounds, we've got Australian dollars, and now you have

(32:43):
US dolls.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm thirty two fifty.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, so two hundred fifty thousand in today's money at
that time. Amazingly, the reward is still valid today for
information that would lead to the killer a lot of money.
It's a lot of money then, and it's not been
raised at all. You haven't generated any leads with that
amount of money.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, you're not. You're still twenty thousand Australian dollars.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, so with inflation now is worth significantly less. Do
you want to guess how much it's worth now? It's
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars US dollars in sixty
five Today it's worth about in US dollars ninety thousand,
thirteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Oh my god, doesn't sound right, does it. We've gone
through a lot of turmoil, we really have.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
So now it's only thirteen thousand, it's not like e
two hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
They gott to raise it up exactly So.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
In April, but that same year, two fifteen year old
girls are attacked or almost attacked at a train station,
not too far from the same beach where Wanda Dunes
are at. A teenage boy grabs one of them. They
both scream and the boy runs away. I mean the similarities.
The description of him is not very different from Wolfgang's
description of Spacoli, the surfer looking guy he had seen

(33:56):
talking to the girls angrily. A sketch of this teenager,
along with sketch of several other people who have been
described as being predatory in the dunes because there are
fucking also creeps hanging out, Peeping Tom's guys just exposing themselves.
Those sketches are released to the public. Of these sketches
to gain a lot of attention. One is of a

(34:16):
person described as quote the fat man. He had approached
women on the beach near the dunes on the day
of the murders and on other days with porn magazines.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Man, please will you read this to me? You can't read?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Can it?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
The articles?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Oh my god, and also ask them inappropriate questions. So
fucking sketch.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
They also come up with a sketch.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Of a younger man with long hair who had inappropriately
propositioned women as well, but none of these people are
ever identified. It's not a safe place. By the beginning
of nineteen sixty six, a year after the murders, the
number of police assigned to the case drops from forty
to eight. By this point in time, police have conducted
around seven thousand interviews. And at the same time, the

(35:00):
two older women are murdered in brutal, frenzied knife attacks
in public places in Sydney. Their names are Wilhelmina Krueger
and Anna Dolencoa. Police are fairly sure that these two
cases of these two women are related, and they wonder
if they could also be related to the Wanda Beach murders. Yeah,
they seem very similar. At the same time, the country's
focus shifts to Adelaide, where the three Beaumont children disappear

(35:23):
from a beach on a national holiday and that becomes
it's three little kids gone without a trace. That becomes
a huge story. This disappearance, the Wanda Beach murders, and
the Adelaide Oval abduction that I covered in episode four
sixty six, which happens in the seventies, are all seen
as some of Australia's most notorious and tragic unsolf cases.
So these all kind of happen around the same time

(35:45):
and get kind of grouped together.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
They're all insolved. Yeah, I mean, there are a few.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Theories that have circulated over the years. One name that
comes up over and over again is a person that
we've spoken about on the show. His name's Christopher Wilder,
who would go on to be the Beauty Queen Killer
who I recently covered in episode four seventy two. Christopher
was living in Sydney and would have been nineteen at
the time of the murders. In nineteen sixty three, when
he was seventeen, he had been convicted of raping a

(36:11):
thirteen year old girl in the company of two other
men who denied participating in the assault.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
He had been given.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Probation and had gotten e lectroshock therapy. He was questioned
in a series of sexual assaults at a different beach
which was closer to Sydney in nineteen sixty eight, a
couple of years after. Like Super Suspicious, he had also
lured a nineteen year old into his car and coerced
her into taking nude photos and had attempted to assault
her but she got away.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
What does nothing ever fucking stick in these It's like
we're talking about big picture stuff and then details, but
it's that kind of thing where it's like they get
away with it, especially we're.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
In over back then, especially where it was just like, oh,
slap on the wrist.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Oh peeping Tom, he's just a funny kids from that
movie Porky's whatever, or just like Jesus correct or back.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
To the future.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
How charming is that they met because he fell out
of a tree because he was fucking spot undressed.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yes, it's wild, and I mean it's a wild thing
where it's just kind of like funny cultural comedy. It
actually is like, no, this is a red flag.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Totally, a huge red flag.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
But in that case specifically, what were those authorities doing
where they're finding these guys doing similar parallel crime totally
and then just being like, well.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Maybe they're connected. Goodbye bye because he moves to the
US not long after, and then he visits Australia in
nineteen eighty two when he comes back and he abducts
two fifteen year old girls, ties them up, photographs them.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
So it's like, uh, the same thing. Pattern, it's called
the pattern at this point.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
And it's escalating and it's been dangerous since day one.
But we're going to wait until multiple people are killed.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Because he leaves Australia then while still awaiting trial, and
two years after that he goes onto the horrific murder spree,
the Beauty Queen killer that I covered in the show
like this guy is a predator, an evil predator. At nineteen,
his physical description wouldn't have been different from the teenager
or wolfgang had described. Furthermore, he was living in ride

(38:17):
one town over from the two girls, so maybe they
had seen him or met him before and knew him.
People wonder whether if Christopher wasn't the surferu Teine on
the beach, he may have been the teenager seen talking
to the girls on that first train on the way
to Crinella. That said, after his death, police in Australia
do get a blood sample, and as far as we know,
it's never been linked to physical evidence from the crimes.

(38:40):
But I mean, crazier shit than it not having been
tested has happened, right, Yes, you know for sure. And
the blood samples that were collected from Christine's clothing are
now considered too degraded to be tested with the technology
we currently have. It's unclear if they were too degraded
to compare with Christopher's blood by nineteen eighty four when
he died, or at the time they were tested and

(39:03):
were not a match, Like, let's get this retested. Frustratingly,
the semen that was collected at the time of the
murders of the girls has said to have been lost.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
And it's unclear what happened to those samples.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Upsetting, frustrating, typical, It's like, until nineteen ninety four, it
was the Dark Ages. Yeah, it was just hopefully you
got an organized, responsible cop that was writing everything down totally,
doing it by the book.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Totally, and then hopefully you find someone later who cares enough.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
To test to bring it tested off.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
And they give them funding to do such things because
they care. Yeah, it's just Yeah, it's a crapshoot.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Another name that comes up over and over again, because
of course there's multiple.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Because there's so many creed choices is.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
A man named Alan Bassett.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
He's convicted of another horrible sexual assault and murder in
nineteen sixty six, and he's diagnosed with schizophrenia and winds
up serving his sentence in a psychiatric hospital. A police
detective who's absolutely convinced that Bassett is the killer continued
to correspond with him, and Bassett painted a picture for
this detective, literally a painted be picture, and the detective

(40:14):
maintains that the painting contained information from the one to
Beach murders that has never been released to the public. Wow,
this detective has since died and what this information is
has never been disclosed in the years since because it's
not released to the Like, he just thinks in the painting,
there's some connection that only the killer would know.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
He he doesn't fucking write it down on a piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, maybe he did, but they don't release that information.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Do you call me? Baby? No? Why am I calling you?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Baby? I said, Oh, you said, maybe he did, Babe,
baby he did?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I'm like, what baby, baby? Baby? Baby gone down? Baby?
Oh yeah, so sorry my mistake. No, no, it's good, it's good.
Please li liven't use I tripped over my words.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Basically, maybe he did, but then it just didn't get saved,
it didn't get.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
No, maybe it didn't get released. Oh baby got recorded.
It's a piece of information that hasn't through release to
the public. So that they release that painting, they're releasing
a piece of information which at this point we're all
we're always like released, release, just release more information.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Please, yeah, baby, please baby, please please baby, Right though,
that's through the name of it.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
One another name, because of course there's another name that
keeps popping up. Creeps abound, they sure do. The name
of this person is Derek Percy. He's considered a suspect
in the disappearance of the Beaumont children, Oh yeah, because
that had just happened a year later, as well as
other disappearances and murders of children in Australia throughout the sixties.
In nineteen sixty nine, four years after the wand of

(41:49):
Beach murders, he abducted and murdered a thirteen year old
girl named Yvonne Touhey and was found not guilty for
reasons of insanity. He spent the rest of his life
in a psychiatric hospital and in twenty thirteen without ever
admitting to any other murders, but a lot of people
suspect him for the Beaumont Children's disappearance. Yvonne's murder had

(42:09):
been in Melbourne, where Percy was stationed with the Navy,
and he was from the state of Victoria and not
very close to Sydney, but it's unclear if he would
have been in Sydney at the time of the Wanda
Beach murders. But it's not been ruled out. But it's
just again one of those things where like people don't
want to face that there's multiple child killers. It's not
you know, yes, it's just he's just another sick.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh yeah, that has this insane rap sheet but is
free to wander it, wander the beach anytime he so chooses. Right.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
So this past January was the sixtieth anniversary of Marianne
and Christine's murders. The twenty thousand Australian dollar awards still stands,
but Hans Schmidt, Marianne's little brother, wishes the amount would
increase so that perhaps a family member of the killer
would come forward. You know, yeah, money talks, He says, Quote,

(42:57):
we sit at one of the most horrific murders in
the country and we're still at twenty thousand dollars. Yeah,
it's a pittance because of that lack of increase, you know,
I mean in what world.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, you'd think that there are people who could make
that change. It's like, don't they fundraise for like the
Police Softball Association.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Right of his big sister who took him to the
beach sixty years ago. He says, quote, it would have
been nice if she were still around. She would be
seventy five now.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Quote.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
And that is the story of one of Australia's most
haunting cold cases, the murders of Christine Shryck and mary
Anne Schmidt at Wanda Beach.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Wow. That was great. I mean that was horrifying and
it is really upsetting. But then also as we talk
about stuff like this, and then it just like, well,
if they do make these changes and we now have
the science, like, couldn't this be something they put AI
toward instead of like it needs to write movies. Couldn't
it be something like cold case patterns? Yeah, old evidence

(44:01):
processing stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Interesting, you know, I mean it's not too late, as
we now know. You know, so many of these cold
cases are being solved, and they just they need answers.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, you know, or like some rich Australian Yeah, get
it going.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Come on, Uh, it's a rich Australian.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Ryan Seacrest. This whole time, he's been covering up the
most insane accent. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well, thank you to rich and not rich Australians for
listening to.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yes, oh well, great job, by the way, that was
really that was really amazing. I mean this really is
the promise of your stories I know, is that then
there will be a news report someday.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
That's like there have been some I just haven't talked
about them, but maybe we need to give those updates you.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Maybe that would be a good solo episode as you
just do all Cold case recaps.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah and there's yeah, yeah, or like okay, thank you, no,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I need that. I need it more.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Then if you want it, what if you recap all
my old stories You're like, here's where you were wrong
and another day, remember how you speculate it?

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Well, you were on AI helped me write this.

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it hadn't been this podcast back in high school piquing
my interest in the justice system, what at a very
young age, Who knows if I would have chosen this
career path. Thanks for every great show and much needed laugh.

(46:12):
Now stay sexy and pass the bar exam, Megan, I
mean flying colors. I'm sure, geez, that's amazing. Great job, Megan, Congratulations, Congratulations.
This is on Instagram. I have a hooray.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
After living in a city that has whipped.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Me left right up and down, I'm following my dream
of leaving the country and moving to Berlin to au
pair for a beautiful, sweet family, Oh Berlin. As an
eighteen year old three year long Murderino, I love you
guys and have had you in my ears through thick
and thin. Thank you for everything you've done for our
community and me.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Without even knowing. Smiley face, smiley face. EJ Murray EJ
started listening when they were fifteen years old. Oh my God,
precious soft wors Okay, this is for more email. It
just says my horay is that at the end of
this month, me and my face family are selling our
house in the town I was born and raised in
and leaving for a fresh start in a new state

(47:05):
that my husband and I have always dreamed of living in.
Let this serve as a reminder that it's never too
late for a big change in life. Don't listen to
the negativity you get from others, and trust your gut.
Do the things in life that make you happy. Sam.
And it's just signed Sam soon to be from Maine.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Oh I love it, I know, right sweet? Okay, this
one says, hey gang. Today was the last day at
my job before heading.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Off to medical school.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Since graduating college, I've been working in endoscopy, where I
assist in GI and pulmonary procedures using endoscopes.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Brag brag.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
You ladies have accompanied me throughout my undergraduate career and
this job, especially while I'm cleaning the scopes after procedures.
Oh well, We've been a lot of places. In lots
of places, I've learned so much about the importance of
screening medicine and the value of kindness, compassion, and empathy
in medical care.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I bet medical school is.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
The first step towards me achieving the ultimate dream of
becoming an obg y N, where I will fight the
good fight for women's reproductive rights from the inside out.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Amazing women deserve.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Access to quality and comprehensive health care. Hooray for women
in STEM and hooray for fighting fascism. Any way, you
can stay sexy and get your screening colonoscopy.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Delaney K. Delaney. So much good advice, so many good
points made in that email. Great job, We're very proud
of you. Are cleaning the and dyscopy. What is it called?
How do you say? Don't don't repeat it? The subject
line of this is hooray, I just adopted twenty thousand
beautiful babies. Okay, ready, it just starts. I got to

(48:52):
fulfill a literal, lifelong dream. Hooray. I started keeping bees.
That's my dream too. From the time I was a
little larva myself, I've been fascinated by bees. I watched documentaries,
I took classes, I even joined the local beekeeping guild.
You should do that, I should, But I was never
able to acquire my own hive for one reason or another.

(49:14):
You know how life, those hives can't acquire a hive.
One night, after a colleague introduced me to his wife,
she casually mentioned that she's a hobby beekeeper. With too
many hives people in my life. I literally asked Vince
for a bee hive for my birthday this year. Poor man.
He's like, God, no, he said, see what he can do.

(49:35):
He's like, at least it's not another cat, right, Long
story short. She and I have become friends, like friend
with the hives. He's using her for bees. She is
teaching me everything she knows about bees and has even
given me my own little hive to look after. Helping
these incredible little pollinators thrive. Brings me more joy than
I can express in words. I feel this is like

(49:55):
a person who has found their niche in life. It's
beautiful of it. I feel totally at home in the
b yard and I'm my god, I want that so bad.
I'm like picturing it. It's like your own area of
the yard with just for bees and don't let the
children run through there. And I'm so grateful I have
a new friend that was willing to share her knowledge
with me. Hooray for drinking too many beers with colleagues

(50:16):
and getting to live out your dream of becoming a
bee babe. Thank you for everything you do. Heart.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Okay, okay, I'm exciting to you.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
You've just inspired Georgia beads. Beads, I have one more.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Okay, Hey, guys, I'm so happy horays are back, and
I'm even happier to say I have one of my own.
I recently completed my first and probably only half marathon.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Ooh.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I had planned for you to be in my ears
the whole time, as you got me through so many
training runs, but of course I lost my headphones right
before the race. You imagine I quit, So I ended
up doing the whole thing, powered by sheer will, cheering
and people's footsteps and breathing.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Wow. It definitely sucked at times, but I did it.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
I had fun, hit the time I wanted, got to
run the lap around the Indy five hundred track.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
And honestly, why not run a half marathon at twenty
years old? When else am I going to do it?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Hell? Yeah, sister, not at forty four?

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Hate you anyway anyway, Thanks for being a right Hooray
for doing hard things or just anything at this point.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yes, you sure, closs GGM Reese.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Ree, congratulations on your twelve points. Whatever. My I feel
like the quiet part would be the hardest part for me.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
That would be rough in the running, that would be a.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Real there's no way, no, just your thoughts. It's still
twelve miles. But we're really proud we are, and I
think that's it. Look for our honking and horays. Thank
you Hyundai for sponsoring this wonderful segment we're doing. We
appreciate you. Thanks for listening, Stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Good one, good bye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie?

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Speaker 2 (52:01):
Our senior producers are Alejandra Keck and Molly Smith.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
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by Leona Squalacci. Our researchers are Maaron McGlashan and Ali Elkin.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
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