December 15, 2021 • 20 mins
For a special treat, Karen and Georgia sit down with celebrity guests to hear their stories, from hometown murders to personal accounts of mayhem to legendary family lore. Today's guest is Phoebe Bridgers.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome, and welcome to my favorite murder, the
Celebrity Hometown edition when we.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Talked to our really popular friends about their own hometowns
and stuff that got them into true crime or out.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Of true crime or near true crime. That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's very exciting this week because we have such a
famous friend on the zoom. We do a highly famous friend.
She's killing it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's right, you guys, it's Phoebe Bridgers.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, hello, Hi, I'm so excited to be here. Thank you, guys.
I've been listening for a long time, so this is.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Pretty for me now, Phoebe, is that the kind of
thing a lot of musicians do on the road as
they turn to podcasts and there are times of travel
and isolation, would you say yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Because there are days on tour where you couldn't pay
me to hear more music, you know, so so you
just walk. It's weird because I have I feel like
I have associations with this show in specific cities that
the murders aren't based in. Like I remember exactly where
I was when you talked about like the was it
(01:34):
the led Zeppelin concert?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Who it was? Who? Oh it was the who? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I was walking in Rhode Island, so I like I
just have like very like weird pictures of things along
with episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's range, That's very cool.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's so weird to be in a musician's head since
like we have songs that we associate with certain places
and like to have a podcast sometimes correct sometimes not
correct podcast, Sinara Head.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I've honored to be there. Yeah, yeah, it's a great,
it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
What else do you do when you're on the road, Like,
how do you kind of fill that time aside from podcasts?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
There anything you want to share with us?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, covid was weird, Like I just got off tour. Yeah,
and you're in such a bubble. I mean, like, obviously
it's great to be safe, but if the health of
the entire tour rests on every individual, Like we weren't
allowed to go to restaurants. Yeah, we're all like so
respectful of each other. And you know, curbside coffee pickup
(02:34):
is the closest to an adventurer you can do.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But wow, that's a huge change, right.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because I feel like mostly you
pick an errand and you make it take all day
on tour because you just need like an excuse for
some alone time or something.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So yeah, lots of lots of just like aimless wandering
and we all got a lot closer and stuff of
our mark who is my guitar?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Tech? Handmade like three D printed a board game?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
What? Because he's a fucking nerd and everybody played it like.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
In hotel rooms. Uh oh, I love that.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It kind of is like D and D I feel like,
is what it's like. It's it's kind of like role
play game.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So he just made up an entire role play game
on his own. As Yeah, while they're doing his hard job.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
He has like let me go quickly every very very
rock and roll. That's very rock and roll? Are the audiences?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Do you feel how much more excited they are to
be at a public venue watching music comparatively?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean there's it's just it's also like, I don't
think I was expecting as young a demographic because I
feel like I've opened for a lot of people and
I'd been on my own tour, but they were all
kind of like people my age. Yeah, I feel like
was my thing and then and I think I like,
I saw so many kids where it's like their first
(04:05):
concert or like the last concert they went to is
with their parents. Wow, and people like dress up all crazy.
It was so it was so different from from what
I expected. Like I feel like when I was a kid,
it like wasn't cool to dance. It wasn't cool to
like try hard, like you tried to. It was like
indie grime, I feel like, was so popular when I
(04:26):
was a teenager.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And now it's like you're allowed to come to a
concert with like crazy glitter all over your face and
with your five friends and it's just so so cool.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Like enthusiasm is cool again. Some like like Earnesty is
cool again? Yeah, which is Earnesty? That's your next album?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah Earnesty goes to camps.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Should we drop the bomb that Phoebe You and I
dressed up as the same thing for Halloween.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
We literally did.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I was I was Megan Fox and my boyfriend was
machine Gun Kelly for Halloweens.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, I got to see the picture. Yeah, did you
do a wig? Or I did?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I went to party City like two days before the
party and bought a wig that was one of the
last basically like long sexy hair is what it said
on the front, and the girl when I got up
to the counter, the girl was like, she held it
up and very slowly said, you can't return this after today,
(05:31):
and I was like, okay, like I don't what are
you doing? And then I took it home and took
it out of the bag and someone had absolutely worn
it before. It smelled like someone else. It was a
little bit like I had to brush it out.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It had been used.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And they also they trimmed the bangs a little bit EO.
So I just kind of like, I just kind of
looked at it.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And I was like, shit, oh well, okay, oh my god.
And bangs are historically inaccurate too.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
For Megan Fox had I had to cover them. I
had to fold the longer hair over the banks. Otherwise
no one would know who you were.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, exactly, I'd be like, we don't get it, we
don't get which no one did. No one had any
idea what I was doing because I wore the long
wig and then I wore fox ears, so I was
like really giving them the hint. And then I brought
my dog Frank, and he was supposed to be a
machine gun Kelly, but you know, because he had he
had a studied collar on.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So rad no one got it.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I Yeah, I feel like I became I don't know
how you felt, but I became a completely different person. Yeah,
like I was my own alter ego right. Like I
made out with my friend Lucy. Uh, Like we're like
not even very physically affectionate with each other in real life,
and we've known each other for so long, and we
(06:46):
just were like, why have we never made out?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Like so stupid, god Fred, I missed days of Like
I feel like that's such a twenties things like make
out with your friend at your best friend at a party,
Like that's just like that made me miss party.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's how you party.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
No, I need every like everybody who saw me that
night need like I need to hand out some NDA's
for sure, and like nip slip constant, Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You looked really different though. The wig was like a
life changer. It really was a complete image changer for you.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No nobody knew who I was, Like I went to
my friend's Halloween party and I could tell that she
was like, Hi, how's it going, Like I'm supposed to know.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Who this person is? And I was like, literal Phoebe
know you were Phoebe? Yeah, I did not know you
were Megan Fox.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
They like they knew I was Megan Fox, they did
not know I was myself.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Hell, yeah, you gotta take advantage.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, it was a dream Halloween. Yeah, no, it it
was great. I love it? All? Right, should we do this? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I can't wait to hear. I was like someone who
actually listens. It's really exciting, like hear your take on this.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well I did not heed any advice because I I
feel like you guys talk a lot about how like, oh,
it's supposed to be fun, and this is this is
like the opposite of fun.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What I've great. We didn't need fun, No, not at all.
It's so fucking dark.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's so dark and and it's like the you know,
I feel like it's the general definition of a hometown.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's not my hometown. Great.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
But I was playing with City and Color. I was
opening acoustic with my friend Marshall who plays drums for me,
and and if you don't know, City and Color are
like a folk band, like they're fun and like so sweet.
And it was the last night of this tour that
I'd had a great time, and I walk into this
(08:44):
club in Albuquerque called the Sunshine Theater and yeah, it's
like supposed to be fun, it's like your last night,
and it just like it was totally off.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It just felt like.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Like later in the night, for example, like someone broke
a bottle over somebody's head. Wow, And again it's like
fucking it's like if you did that at a fucking
like me concert. It's just so it's so off, like
city color are folky, like it makes no fucking sense,
like get your shit together. But it was just weird,
like people were too drunk and it was creepy.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And then like like when we got in the.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Backstage, I was like, why does this feel so fucking weird?
And I then was like immediately embarrassed because I saw
that someone who worked at the venue was right behind me,
and like, you know, you don't nobody wants to know
that their venue feels weird, yea. So I was like,
why does this feel so weird? And this woman goes, well,
(09:42):
obviously it feels weird, Like are you talking about what happened?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Oh no? And I was like, uh, I was like
what do you mean? And then she told me the story.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh my god, and I haven't stopped thinking about it
since I'm nervous. So Marissa, Matthew's wifler was a sixteen
year old girl from Santa Fe, New Mexico. She had
dreams of becoming a fashion designer. She made all her
own clothes at school, like she wore her own clothes
that she made, which is just like we all knew
that girl. She was so cool, like everybody's jealous. She
(10:13):
made her own prom dress, and she was part of
the Gay Street Alliance, like just awesome. Everybody said she
was like the sweetest girl ever. And she was a huge, huge,
huge Atmosphere fan, which is so sweet, like so fun
and so. On Wednesday, July sixteenth, two thousand and three,
(10:35):
Marisa and her friends went to see Atmosphere at the
Sunshine Theater in Albuquerque, which is where I played. And
she was dancing barefoot like having a blast with a
bunch of other people doing that. But she cut her
foot on a piece of broken glass, which is also
strange because I just said someone broke a bunch of
glasses at the show. So she cut her foot open,
(10:57):
and she's like, you guys, I gotta go fix this,
but they're all having a blast and dancing, So she
goes off to you know, figure it out by herself,
and then nobody sees her again for the rest of
the night. And they are not with an adult. I
don't think she was even supposed to go to the show.
And they drove pretty far, so they wait for her
for like an hour, no cell phones, so they have
(11:20):
to go home and just immediately they tell their parents,
but it's been kind of a long time, and they
put up flyers and they report her missing, and everybody's
freaking out, and like everybody assumes for the next couple
days that she must have been abducted from the theater.
But three days after she vanished, the police received an
anonymous tip that led them to search the venue instead,
(11:45):
and there they found the body of a young girl
who was completely nude except for a tank top which
was wrapped around her neck, and it was confirmed to
be Marisa, and the cause of death was strangulation.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh my god, how fucked up is this? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
The tip also led police to look into twenty two
year old Dominic Acres, a six foot tall, three hundred
and eighty pound man who worked as a janitor at
the venue, and when police questioned him, He immediately confesses.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh god, really shit, and the tip came from his dad.
No man, Ugh, yeah, it's so it's so bad.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So Dominic tells police that he told Marissa he was
a security guard and offered to help her with her
foot injury and offered to introduce her to slug the atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Remember she had a crush on which is the worst
part of it evil.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
He led her upstairs to the projection room in the
back of the theater.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
He raped and strangled her.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
He left her body in the projection room and then
the next day moved it to a storage area and
covered the entrance with a vending machine and that's where
she was found. Oh wow, but this is where it
gets just like, ugh, it's just yeah. Keeps me up
at night because a one year before the concert, Dominic
pled guilty to raping and molesting his four year old relative,
(13:07):
which should have sent him to prison for thirty three years,
but in July two thousand and two, district Judge Ross
Sanchez agreed to suspend his sentence and instead it gave
him five years probation.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
What from thirty years to five years probation? Yeah? For
rate for children, Yeah, for child.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Meanwhile, like people obviously are in prison for like weed.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yes, right, it's just so, it's so bullshit.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
And then the venue and they hired him didn't take
the like you know, cost like a couple bucks to
do a background check and it would have taken like
five minutes to do and they didn't do a background check.
So Mariss's parents end up suing the Sunshine Theater for
negligence because a bunch of people saw her clearly intoxicated
(13:56):
dancing around needing help, and nobody did anything.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Nobody said anything. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So Dominic pled guilty to first degree murder and was
sentenced to life in prison plus thirty seven years for
Marris's murder, as well as thirty three years for violating
probation when he killed her. He is currently serving his
sentence in New Mexico. He was quoted saying he had
to kill her because he didn't want to go back
to jail.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
When were you there?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, I was going to say, compared to this crime,
when were you feeling the vibe I played?
Speaker 4 (14:27):
What marsh What year was that? That must have been
twenty twenty fifteen or sixteen?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Wait, wait, this is googleable oh do you ever do
you ever wonder out loud?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, easily find out about facts.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So like, over ten years later and you walk in
this venue and you're like, something is fucking off here,
and you just immediately had bad vibes from it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That much later I could, I could say that it's
because it was like haunted or creepy or something, but
really I just meant like too many drunk people too early.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, like I.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Was, and I wasn't saying like, oh my god, this
venue's so fucking haunted. It was like, hmm, these vibes
are weird. And then the woman like kind of jumps
the gun and is like, well you know.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
What happened now? Yeah? What year was it? Okay, twenty sixteen,
So so over ten years later.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wow, but it is almost still this like this like
this vibe of negative, like people are drinking too much
more than they should, they're fighting at a at a
music venue, you know, instead of it's like not a
fucking honky tonk, And I feel like you still picked
up on these like something is off and for everybody here.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, at a fucking folk concert, it's like grow up.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
So immediately following Marissa's murder, Marissa's friends and family began
pressuring local politicians to pass new laws that would have
prevented her murder. Two bills were put into place in
New Mexico, Marissa's Sunshine Law, which required that sex offenders
on probation must notify their employers, which is crazy that
that wasn't before. And Maris's Law, which reformed laws dealing
(16:04):
with sex offenders, including mandatory minimum prison and parole sentences,
as well as increased treatment. Wow, which is so cool.
But I think it's so sad when like, sorry to
keep going about it. I think it's so sad that,
like if you were to glean a lesson from this,
it's like, don't have fun and don't trust people who
(16:25):
work at the venue, right, Like that's that's that shouldn't
be a lesson that anyone should have to learn, right,
Like those poor friends, the poor dad, like Dominic, the
murderer's dad, Like are you kidding me? Yeah, Like there's
so many there are so many survivors and like sad
stories in.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This totally yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Wow, the stories that are so horrible and awful that
then something comes out of them, which is keeping other
people safe. In the future is like the only silver
line that we could look for, and that's great.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And then there's this amazing charity called Calling All Crows,
which is a nonprofit that I heard about forever ago
because I don't know about you guys, but like I
had totally creepy experiences at concerts and a lot of
the time you're like going kind of behind your parents
back and nobody knows.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Where you are.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yes, totally, and like if somebody, if somebody fucks with
you at a concert, like you're totally on your own.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So this charity called the Calling All Crows. It's a
nonprofit and it's trained over three thousand musicians, venue and
festival staff about like prevention and response for sexual violence. Wow,
which is so cool. Yeah, So I thought, you know,
you guys do this a lot, which I love. But
I thought I'd make a donation in Mris's name today
(17:45):
for Calling All Crows beautiful.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
That would be cool and nice. That is amazing, Jojo.
We should do the exact same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Match it, will match it, and we'll all donate to it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I love that. Hell, yeah, that's amazing. Oh my god,
I'm sweating, like homework, but you get guess what you get,
you get an A plus. That was really beautifully done.
That was beautifully done.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I was really nicely told and really like it's yea,
it is your hometown because it's something that like kind
of personally affected you. That's still that still counts, and
it is like and it's your millu. That's the world
you're in, And it's important to talk about stuff like that.
As horrible as it is, it's important to like talk
about it and bring it to light to try to
(18:29):
prevent it in the future.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Really good job. Yeah, totally thank your us. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Maybe that was incredible, very nice, amazing Phoebe.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
How many pages was that? How many pages did you
print up?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Just three? Nice? Oh my god, did I miss a
whole other page? Now you know what it's yeah, right,
that's a page. But no, no, no, you degree that
it'll try.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, do you want to plug the touring in twenty
twenty two?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
See, I don't even know when that's happened.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You're like, I did not agree to any storing in two.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Like, what do you eat?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That was amazing, Phoebe fucking bridgeres Thank you so much
for being a celebrity guest on this podcast. Huge fans
of yours. Obviously we love you. It's our honor that
you're here.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Thank you so much for you know, oh, thanks for
being a part of all of it.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Thank you, guys, guys.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
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Speaker 3 (19:33):
Follow her life, pay attention, follow me home. Yeah now
a step back? Yeah awesome?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Hey, thank you, Thanks guys, Bye, Elvis, Do you want
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Hello, and welcome, and welcome to my favorite murder, the
Celebrity Hometown edition when we.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Talked to our really popular friends about their own hometowns
and stuff that got them into true crime or out.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Of true crime or near true crime. That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's very exciting this week because we have such a
famous friend on the zoom. We do a highly famous friend.
She's killing it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's right, you guys, it's Phoebe Bridgers.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, hello, Hi, I'm so excited to be here. Thank you, guys.
I've been listening for a long time, so this is.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Pretty for me now, Phoebe, is that the kind of
thing a lot of musicians do on the road as
they turn to podcasts and there are times of travel
and isolation, would you say yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Because there are days on tour where you couldn't pay
me to hear more music, you know, so so you
just walk. It's weird because I have I feel like
I have associations with this show in specific cities that
the murders aren't based in. Like I remember exactly where
I was when you talked about like the was it
(01:34):
the led Zeppelin concert?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Who it was? Who? Oh it was the who? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I was walking in Rhode Island, so I like I
just have like very like weird pictures of things along
with episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's range, That's very cool.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's so weird to be in a musician's head since
like we have songs that we associate with certain places
and like to have a podcast sometimes correct sometimes not
correct podcast, Sinara Head.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I've honored to be there. Yeah, yeah, it's a great,
it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
What else do you do when you're on the road, Like,
how do you kind of fill that time aside from podcasts?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
There anything you want to share with us?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, covid was weird, Like I just got off tour. Yeah,
and you're in such a bubble. I mean, like, obviously
it's great to be safe, but if the health of
the entire tour rests on every individual, Like we weren't
allowed to go to restaurants. Yeah, we're all like so
respectful of each other. And you know, curbside coffee pickup
(02:34):
is the closest to an adventurer you can do.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But wow, that's a huge change, right.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because I feel like mostly you
pick an errand and you make it take all day
on tour because you just need like an excuse for
some alone time or something.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So yeah, lots of lots of just like aimless wandering
and we all got a lot closer and stuff of
our mark who is my guitar?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Tech? Handmade like three D printed a board game?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
What? Because he's a fucking nerd and everybody played it like.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
In hotel rooms. Uh oh, I love that.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It kind of is like D and D I feel like,
is what it's like. It's it's kind of like role
play game.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So he just made up an entire role play game
on his own. As Yeah, while they're doing his hard job.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
He has like let me go quickly every very very
rock and roll. That's very rock and roll? Are the audiences?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Do you feel how much more excited they are to
be at a public venue watching music comparatively?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean there's it's just it's also like, I don't
think I was expecting as young a demographic because I
feel like I've opened for a lot of people and
I'd been on my own tour, but they were all
kind of like people my age. Yeah, I feel like
was my thing and then and I think I like,
I saw so many kids where it's like their first
(04:05):
concert or like the last concert they went to is
with their parents. Wow, and people like dress up all crazy.
It was so it was so different from from what
I expected. Like I feel like when I was a kid,
it like wasn't cool to dance. It wasn't cool to
like try hard, like you tried to. It was like
indie grime, I feel like, was so popular when I
(04:26):
was a teenager.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And now it's like you're allowed to come to a
concert with like crazy glitter all over your face and
with your five friends and it's just so so cool.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Like enthusiasm is cool again. Some like like Earnesty is
cool again? Yeah, which is Earnesty? That's your next album?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah Earnesty goes to camps.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Should we drop the bomb that Phoebe You and I
dressed up as the same thing for Halloween.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
We literally did.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I was I was Megan Fox and my boyfriend was
machine Gun Kelly for Halloweens.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, I got to see the picture. Yeah, did you
do a wig? Or I did?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I went to party City like two days before the
party and bought a wig that was one of the
last basically like long sexy hair is what it said
on the front, and the girl when I got up
to the counter, the girl was like, she held it
up and very slowly said, you can't return this after today,
(05:31):
and I was like, okay, like I don't what are
you doing? And then I took it home and took
it out of the bag and someone had absolutely worn
it before. It smelled like someone else. It was a
little bit like I had to brush it out.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It had been used.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And they also they trimmed the bangs a little bit EO.
So I just kind of like, I just kind of
looked at it.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And I was like, shit, oh well, okay, oh my god.
And bangs are historically inaccurate too.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
For Megan Fox had I had to cover them. I
had to fold the longer hair over the banks. Otherwise
no one would know who you were.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, exactly, I'd be like, we don't get it, we
don't get which no one did. No one had any
idea what I was doing because I wore the long
wig and then I wore fox ears, so I was
like really giving them the hint. And then I brought
my dog Frank, and he was supposed to be a
machine gun Kelly, but you know, because he had he
had a studied collar on.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So rad no one got it.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I Yeah, I feel like I became I don't know
how you felt, but I became a completely different person. Yeah,
like I was my own alter ego right. Like I
made out with my friend Lucy. Uh, Like we're like
not even very physically affectionate with each other in real life,
and we've known each other for so long, and we
(06:46):
just were like, why have we never made out?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Like so stupid, god Fred, I missed days of Like
I feel like that's such a twenties things like make
out with your friend at your best friend at a party,
Like that's just like that made me miss party.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's how you party.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
No, I need every like everybody who saw me that
night need like I need to hand out some NDA's
for sure, and like nip slip constant, Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You looked really different though. The wig was like a
life changer. It really was a complete image changer for you.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No nobody knew who I was, Like I went to
my friend's Halloween party and I could tell that she
was like, Hi, how's it going, Like I'm supposed to know.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Who this person is? And I was like, literal Phoebe
know you were Phoebe? Yeah, I did not know you
were Megan Fox.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
They like they knew I was Megan Fox, they did
not know I was myself.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Hell, yeah, you gotta take advantage.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, it was a dream Halloween. Yeah, no, it it
was great. I love it? All? Right, should we do this? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I can't wait to hear. I was like someone who
actually listens. It's really exciting, like hear your take on this.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well I did not heed any advice because I I
feel like you guys talk a lot about how like, oh,
it's supposed to be fun, and this is this is
like the opposite of fun.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What I've great. We didn't need fun, No, not at all.
It's so fucking dark.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's so dark and and it's like the you know,
I feel like it's the general definition of a hometown.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's not my hometown. Great.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
But I was playing with City and Color. I was
opening acoustic with my friend Marshall who plays drums for me,
and and if you don't know, City and Color are
like a folk band, like they're fun and like so sweet.
And it was the last night of this tour that
I'd had a great time, and I walk into this
(08:44):
club in Albuquerque called the Sunshine Theater and yeah, it's
like supposed to be fun, it's like your last night,
and it just like it was totally off.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It just felt like.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Like later in the night, for example, like someone broke
a bottle over somebody's head. Wow, And again it's like
fucking it's like if you did that at a fucking
like me concert. It's just so it's so off, like
city color are folky, like it makes no fucking sense,
like get your shit together. But it was just weird,
like people were too drunk and it was creepy.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And then like like when we got in the.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Backstage, I was like, why does this feel so fucking weird?
And I then was like immediately embarrassed because I saw
that someone who worked at the venue was right behind me,
and like, you know, you don't nobody wants to know
that their venue feels weird, yea. So I was like,
why does this feel so weird? And this woman goes, well,
(09:42):
obviously it feels weird, Like are you talking about what happened?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Oh no? And I was like, uh, I was like
what do you mean? And then she told me the story.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh my god, and I haven't stopped thinking about it
since I'm nervous. So Marissa, Matthew's wifler was a sixteen
year old girl from Santa Fe, New Mexico. She had
dreams of becoming a fashion designer. She made all her
own clothes at school, like she wore her own clothes
that she made, which is just like we all knew
that girl. She was so cool, like everybody's jealous. She
(10:13):
made her own prom dress, and she was part of
the Gay Street Alliance, like just awesome. Everybody said she
was like the sweetest girl ever. And she was a huge, huge,
huge Atmosphere fan, which is so sweet, like so fun
and so. On Wednesday, July sixteenth, two thousand and three,
(10:35):
Marisa and her friends went to see Atmosphere at the
Sunshine Theater in Albuquerque, which is where I played. And
she was dancing barefoot like having a blast with a
bunch of other people doing that. But she cut her
foot on a piece of broken glass, which is also
strange because I just said someone broke a bunch of
glasses at the show. So she cut her foot open,
(10:57):
and she's like, you guys, I gotta go fix this,
but they're all having a blast and dancing, So she
goes off to you know, figure it out by herself,
and then nobody sees her again for the rest of
the night. And they are not with an adult. I
don't think she was even supposed to go to the show.
And they drove pretty far, so they wait for her
for like an hour, no cell phones, so they have
(11:20):
to go home and just immediately they tell their parents,
but it's been kind of a long time, and they
put up flyers and they report her missing, and everybody's
freaking out, and like everybody assumes for the next couple
days that she must have been abducted from the theater.
But three days after she vanished, the police received an
anonymous tip that led them to search the venue instead,
(11:45):
and there they found the body of a young girl
who was completely nude except for a tank top which
was wrapped around her neck, and it was confirmed to
be Marisa, and the cause of death was strangulation.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh my god, how fucked up is this? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
The tip also led police to look into twenty two
year old Dominic Acres, a six foot tall, three hundred
and eighty pound man who worked as a janitor at
the venue, and when police questioned him, He immediately confesses.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh god, really shit, and the tip came from his dad.
No man, Ugh, yeah, it's so it's so bad.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So Dominic tells police that he told Marissa he was
a security guard and offered to help her with her
foot injury and offered to introduce her to slug the atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Remember she had a crush on which is the worst
part of it evil.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
He led her upstairs to the projection room in the
back of the theater.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
He raped and strangled her.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
He left her body in the projection room and then
the next day moved it to a storage area and
covered the entrance with a vending machine and that's where
she was found. Oh wow, but this is where it
gets just like, ugh, it's just yeah. Keeps me up
at night because a one year before the concert, Dominic
pled guilty to raping and molesting his four year old relative,
(13:07):
which should have sent him to prison for thirty three years,
but in July two thousand and two, district Judge Ross
Sanchez agreed to suspend his sentence and instead it gave
him five years probation.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
What from thirty years to five years probation? Yeah? For
rate for children, Yeah, for child.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Meanwhile, like people obviously are in prison for like weed.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yes, right, it's just so, it's so bullshit.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
And then the venue and they hired him didn't take
the like you know, cost like a couple bucks to
do a background check and it would have taken like
five minutes to do and they didn't do a background check.
So Mariss's parents end up suing the Sunshine Theater for
negligence because a bunch of people saw her clearly intoxicated
(13:56):
dancing around needing help, and nobody did anything.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Nobody said anything. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So Dominic pled guilty to first degree murder and was
sentenced to life in prison plus thirty seven years for
Marris's murder, as well as thirty three years for violating
probation when he killed her. He is currently serving his
sentence in New Mexico. He was quoted saying he had
to kill her because he didn't want to go back
to jail.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
When were you there?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, I was going to say, compared to this crime,
when were you feeling the vibe I played?
Speaker 4 (14:27):
What marsh What year was that? That must have been
twenty twenty fifteen or sixteen?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Wait, wait, this is googleable oh do you ever do
you ever wonder out loud?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, easily find out about facts.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So like, over ten years later and you walk in
this venue and you're like, something is fucking off here,
and you just immediately had bad vibes from it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That much later I could, I could say that it's
because it was like haunted or creepy or something, but
really I just meant like too many drunk people too early.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, like I.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Was, and I wasn't saying like, oh my god, this
venue's so fucking haunted. It was like, hmm, these vibes
are weird. And then the woman like kind of jumps
the gun and is like, well you know.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
What happened now? Yeah? What year was it? Okay, twenty sixteen,
So so over ten years later.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wow, but it is almost still this like this like
this vibe of negative, like people are drinking too much
more than they should, they're fighting at a at a
music venue, you know, instead of it's like not a
fucking honky tonk, And I feel like you still picked
up on these like something is off and for everybody here.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, at a fucking folk concert, it's like grow up.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
So immediately following Marissa's murder, Marissa's friends and family began
pressuring local politicians to pass new laws that would have
prevented her murder. Two bills were put into place in
New Mexico, Marissa's Sunshine Law, which required that sex offenders
on probation must notify their employers, which is crazy that
that wasn't before. And Maris's Law, which reformed laws dealing
(16:04):
with sex offenders, including mandatory minimum prison and parole sentences,
as well as increased treatment. Wow, which is so cool.
But I think it's so sad when like, sorry to
keep going about it. I think it's so sad that,
like if you were to glean a lesson from this,
it's like, don't have fun and don't trust people who
(16:25):
work at the venue, right, Like that's that's that shouldn't
be a lesson that anyone should have to learn, right,
Like those poor friends, the poor dad, like Dominic, the
murderer's dad, Like are you kidding me? Yeah, Like there's
so many there are so many survivors and like sad
stories in.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This totally yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Wow, the stories that are so horrible and awful that
then something comes out of them, which is keeping other
people safe. In the future is like the only silver
line that we could look for, and that's great.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And then there's this amazing charity called Calling All Crows,
which is a nonprofit that I heard about forever ago
because I don't know about you guys, but like I
had totally creepy experiences at concerts and a lot of
the time you're like going kind of behind your parents
back and nobody knows.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Where you are.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yes, totally, and like if somebody, if somebody fucks with
you at a concert, like you're totally on your own.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So this charity called the Calling All Crows. It's a
nonprofit and it's trained over three thousand musicians, venue and
festival staff about like prevention and response for sexual violence. Wow,
which is so cool. Yeah, So I thought, you know,
you guys do this a lot, which I love. But
I thought I'd make a donation in Mris's name today
(17:45):
for Calling All Crows beautiful.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
That would be cool and nice. That is amazing, Jojo.
We should do the exact same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Match it, will match it, and we'll all donate to it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I love that. Hell, yeah, that's amazing. Oh my god,
I'm sweating, like homework, but you get guess what you get,
you get an A plus. That was really beautifully done.
That was beautifully done.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I was really nicely told and really like it's yea,
it is your hometown because it's something that like kind
of personally affected you. That's still that still counts, and
it is like and it's your millu. That's the world
you're in, And it's important to talk about stuff like that.
As horrible as it is, it's important to like talk
about it and bring it to light to try to
(18:29):
prevent it in the future.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Really good job. Yeah, totally thank your us. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Maybe that was incredible, very nice, amazing Phoebe.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
How many pages was that? How many pages did you
print up?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Just three? Nice? Oh my god, did I miss a
whole other page? Now you know what it's yeah, right,
that's a page. But no, no, no, you degree that
it'll try.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, do you want to plug the touring in twenty
twenty two?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
See, I don't even know when that's happened.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You're like, I did not agree to any storing in two.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Like, what do you eat?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That was amazing, Phoebe fucking bridgeres Thank you so much
for being a celebrity guest on this podcast. Huge fans
of yours. Obviously we love you. It's our honor that
you're here.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Thank you so much for you know, oh, thanks for
being a part of all of it.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Thank you, guys, guys.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Follow Phoebe at Phoebe Underscore Bridges on Twitter and Phoebe
Bridges on Instagram, and just follow her as a as
a fan because she's the coolest.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Follow her life, pay attention, follow me home. Yeah now
a step back? Yeah awesome?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Hey, thank you, Thanks guys, Bye, Elvis, Do you want
a cookie?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
This has been an exactly right production. Our producer is
Hannah Kyle Crichton. Our associate producer is Alejandra Kech. Engineered
and mixed by Andrew Epen.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
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