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December 5, 2016 16 mins

On this week’s selection of hometown murders, Karen and Georgia read a tale by a 13 year-old, share a listener’s Ted Bundy connection, and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hi, Karen, Hi, Hi, This is my favorite murder. This
is a mini episode.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
A minisode of your Hometown Murders where we scroll and
scroll and scroll through are my favorite murdered Gmail account.
We hustle up on your hometown murders and we read
them back to you in our own voices.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
So many we could do a fucking telethon of these.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
No brag, but we have so many emails.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's not I do only it's bragging this. There's so
many people who are interesting that are emailing us. Yeah,
and yet and yet here I am.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
And yet here we are bragging away about our emails.
You know how, Look you're trying to impress someone, so
you're like, I have over ten thousand emails.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, well that's us. Is anyone impressed by that?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Really? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think like people that run internet servers and oh.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
My god, I'm getting like an alter just thinking about that. Yeah,
it's like we have ten thousand book reports. Do is
how it feels to me? Good times? Do you want
to go first? Sure? Okay. This is called Into the Woods,
a murder mystery, and this is by Robin Hi. Robin

(01:31):
big fan of the show. No matter how many times,
you guys joke about twelve year olds listening to your podcast.
I am thirteen. I am absolutely in love with true
crime and think you guys are so funny. Oh no,
oh oh no, someone called the police. Please, Robin's been
kidnapped and someone else's emailing this from her. Rob is
her account. Robin, stop it. Go to the nearest adult

(01:54):
and tell.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Them Robin, put a chair under the doorknob and listen
to this.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Okay. In twenty twelve in Carterville, Illinois. And then then
they said that was just a test. Hopefully you passed
because they know how bad I am and stuff like that.
Two people by the names of Jake Wheeler and Jesse
Evans were camping in the woods. Uh oh, they came
across a neighbor, Danny K. Costin, and they were found

(02:22):
shot to death at their camp site in Little Wabash River.
I bet you can't guess who did it. Yeah, it
was Costin. So they come across the I guess they
come across the neighbor. Then they end up thug in. Okay,
then they would end up dead. So he's actually f's
now she's old enough. You got it. It's fine. You

(02:43):
got it, You got it. He is currently serving a
fifty two year old prison fifty two year old fifty
two year of prison, dungeons, and we'll probably get out.
Hopefully my parents will have moved to our move from
our incredibly small town by then, and I won't have
to find out the hard way. I know this is
not the most interesting, but I freaked out when I
found out about it on an episode of Nightmare next Door,

(03:03):
the investigation discovery show. I watched that shot out. Yea, yeah,
this episode is entitled Into the Woods. Anyway, hope you
got to read this and if you don't, If you didn't,
this was a complete waste of time. And I could
have read at least two articles on HH Holmes. He's
one of my favorites. Oh and by the way, I
found Karen and you a picture of my of an

(03:24):
alligator and raccoon writing on its back. Yes, sorry for
the typos. Some of the keys on my computer won't
work because I'm using my school's laptop. I'm in science,
but our science teacher is kind of stupid, so I
won't get caught today. Sexceine, don't get murdered. Go bye.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Wait a second, that was a thirteen year old writing
us from science club?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Why am I not as cool as this thirteen year old?
Are you writing us a little asshole? You are fucking
cooler than us. I couldn't figure out how to work
anything when I was thirteen. Do you know I just
only want thirteen year olds to listen to this podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think we can. We can start really focusing towards
the thirteen year old demographic.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
We can shape the fucking future. Do you know that
no one will put us in a shitty, fucking old
person's home when we're old. It's like thirteen year olds
if they just band together and take care of us,
they like us.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's right, Hey man, chill out, cool chill pills, Robin
all the chill pill Take.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
No chill pills, that's wrong. Yeah, and then go crazy.
Okay you go. That was great, Thanks Robin.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
That was rad and also chill and chill uh all right.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
This is from Lauren and.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
The subject line is my best friend's grandma was Ted
bundy Sunday school teacher.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh that Ted Bundy got around. My best friend's grandma
was Ted Bundy's.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Sunday school teacher. Holy shit. And it starts high girls
and kiddies. I recently found your podcast and Binge listened
to every episode this past week. It has really helped
me past the time. While my husband is to PU
I'm listening all the way from Japan.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh my god, thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
What a rainbow flavors we have on this episode, thirteen
year olds, people that are deployed in Japan, everything we
could possibly want.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
My best friend from high school recently told me her
grandma was Ted Bundy's Sunday school teacher, and she said
he was such a cute and charming boy. Yep, shudder
in parentheses. But that's not why I'm here. Oh she
lured us in with that. My hometown murder is from Spokane, Washington.
The killer is Robert Lee Yeates junior. Shortly after high

(05:35):
school and dropping out of college, he worked as a
prison guard and then joined the Army. He was stationed
in Germany and Somalia. During his service. He was living
in Spokane, Washington. On prostitutes we like to call them
sex workers were showing up murdered and raped. The police
had discovered a pattern and started following people that had

(05:55):
picked up sex workers. He was pulled over in his
white corvette. Oh my god, right fucking flag just after
picking up a woman. And he told the police her
father requested him to pick her up and take her home.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Uh huh so the cop just let him go. No, no,
it worked. That worked.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
She was taken just out of sight and let go.
Oh so she she was like, oh, he sold the
corvette to get rid of all the evidence because that's
where the murders took place. When the police finally narrowed
in on him as a suspect, they tracked down the
new owner owner of the corvette, which was a local
cops sister.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh shit, Dan act goodbye, Robert.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
DNA evidence led to his arrest and he had sixteen victims.
They also suspect him of twenty six unsolved ones. It
says miseries, probably some sex workers, but it's probably murders,
and I guess it's miseries. I bet it was miseries
of sex workers in Germany.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Goddamn.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
This was so scary to me growing up because he
was most active between ninety six and ninety eight, so
I was five to seven.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
What made it.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Worse was he was a beloved neighbor father and had
been my brother's cub Scout leader.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
He was finally apprehended in two thousand and was sentenced
to four hundred and eight years and then sentenced to
death in another.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Trial, and they got out in six years.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
He had this same attorney as Gary Ridgeway were killer.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
That guy's got it. Not feel good about himself. Yeah,
he's not doing well.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Thomas Komero, who said Yates, Oh that was the attorney's name,
who said Yates and Ridgeway are virtually the same person
in terms of crimes and life history, and yet we're
treated differently. I also have to say how much more
I love you for mentioning my favorite childhood story, the
Green Ribbon where the girl's head falls off at the end.
That was where at Halloween we're.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Talking about that Ye scary stories to tell in the dark.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
It's from the book In a Dark Dark Room photos below.
I don't know why I love that so much.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
As a child, my mother always thought it was.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
A creep and mere you are now great work. Love
the podcast, It's not my favorite. Thanks for bringing laughter
to such a depressing topic. I have a cat, Lily,
and every time she hears ELA's she starts me owing,
so I think she has a crush love Lauren. Ooh
do you remember this picture of the green ribbon? Ooh,

(08:21):
that's a really even if I don't remember. Oh, I
don't remember this, but it's super creepy in a dark
seventies illustration. I don't know that one in a dark
drug room. Mine was off of a record that we
all sat around.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah. I think it was just like a fairy tale
dark tale, so creepy. Thanks Robin, I'm gonna do I'm
and Lauren. That was from Lauren More. Robin was the
thirteen year old Robin was thirteen high. Robbins taking over
this podcast. Let's bring it up and thank you. Okay.
This one's called from Arcade and Yorkshire, New York. This

(08:57):
is by Lindsay. Okay, I just and she listening to
your podcast. Love it. So this is what happened in
my hometown. Uh d d dah. Okay. Back in the
early nineties, there was a man that was killed in
his truck behind the Aimes store Andy gasper with one
fatal stab went to the chest. Speculation was that the
killer was his wife's boyfriend. Fast forward to when I

(09:18):
became driving age my insurance agent was Cheryl Gasper. Just
a few years ago, the case was solved and Cheryl
Gasper and her former boyfriend were charged with murder. Ooh,
and she confessed to coercing her boyfriend to kill her husband.
I was so fucking shocked. My second story, Okay, in
the mid ninety is clean, exciting. Let's do it. My

(09:42):
second story. In the mid nineties, my parents divorced, and
my dad lived in an apartment above a divorced mom
with her two kids. I stayed with my dad and
his girlfriend now wife, off and on, but my mom
had primary custody. Been there, done that? Yeah, that's really
not fun. My downstairs neighbor always seemed to order food
every night. Little did we know it was actually an
FBI agent's FBI agents changing shifts. She was being stocked.

(10:07):
I think she means her stepmom was being stocked by
a well known rapist who she doesn't know from prison,
and she was under protective custody. This man was in
prison and had an accomplice that would follow her and
give explicit details to the man in prison, and he
would write her letter saying how good she looked in
that skirt and creepy shit like that. One evening after

(10:28):
change an FBI shift, and after her two children went
to bed, the accomplice tried climbing in through the window,
and the FBI agent was there, pointed a gun on
him and said, if you wake up those kids, I
will shoot you. Oh my god. We had zero knowledge
of any of this. She's one of the kids.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
No, no, no, that she was saying, the divorce mother
with the kids that lived downstairs. Remember, the FBI agent
was in the apartment. I didn't follow any Yeah, it's
harder to follow when you're reading it is here, right,
I'm just the listener. You're right, I'm the receiver.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Thank you. Uh. We had zero are knowledge of any
of this until after it was over. Those are my stories.
Love your podcast. Can't wait to listen to the rest
of them. Lindsay, Lindsay, I follow that now. That was
crazy too.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
If you're just ste upstairs, like watching the Love Boat,
you'd have no idea what's going on.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Like you should tell the neighbor, should know, but someone't
you be freaked out?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Would you want to know that if right now there's
an FBI agent in the apartment beneath you.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
If I was a woman in an apartment and in
an adjacent apartment to someone who was being stocked by rapists.
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, you'd just be like, give me the chance to
once again move to a holiday an. All right, here's
my second, one, second, and final. This is from Ariel
and the subject line is fifteen hits of LSD and
it's party time. Oh my god, Hey ladies, I'm just
gonna go fine. My favorite hometown murder is what really

(11:54):
got me interested in murder. I grew up in Westchester,
Illinois when I and when I was thirteen, my third
grade teacher was murdered by her eighteen.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Year old son. O ye, sorry, let me belch out
the sorrow for that.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Deborah tom Porowski got a call on Sunday from her son, Stephen,
who was eighteen, who was on a trip with his
father and uncle in Wisconsin. He asked her to drive
up because they were having car trouble or something. She
arrived in the evening, brought him something to eat, and
they sat on the porch to chat all while his

(12:30):
dad and.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Uncle were dead inside that. Oh that's a horror movie
right there.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
While he ate his fucking burger and fries his little
shit face. Oh, apparently, violently murdering your family really works
up and out site. He went into the house before
her and shot her on the way in the door
Stephen had taken fifteen hits of LSD and proceeded to
shoot both his uncle and his father. His uncle did

(12:55):
not die so naturally. He grabbed a kitchen knife.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
No no, no, no, his throat.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
After he shot his mother, he covered all of the
bodies with drapes or sheets or something, and get this,
oh god, no, no, placed baby toys and dolls around them.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
He was so fucked up. He was so he was
so fucked up dash. This is the creepiest part to me.
It's like he gulp tucked them in. Oh my gosh.
He also took all of.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
The family photos off the walls and burned them in
the Bathtom he had time for that. Apparently he was
caught after he drove home to Westchester, got stuff from home,
including the family dog, and took off. I think they
found him in Kentucky or something. He is in jail forever.
My parents never knew how fascinated I was in this
case and it's details, because I was worried they would

(13:46):
think I was a psycho for being interested.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
We hear you.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'm so glad I found my people. Hi, give the
kiddy snuggles for me. Hey, Oh, Louis just my cat
keeps me company while I watch creepy Netflix documentaries about
murders late at night.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh, it's the best. His picture is below.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
If anything, if anything, Steve Stephen will enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Hey Stephen, stay sexy, don't get murdered. Ariel. Wow, that
was amazing, Ariel, the thought of taking fifteen hits of LS. Oh,
it's you are You're insane. Yes, you can't.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Your brain is just all chemicals and that nothing makes sense.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
You're not human at that point.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's terrible, terrible, horrible, Oh my god, nightmare.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I mean, that's the funny thing.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I think. I keep thinking about this over and over.
We tell these stories, and so many times these people
are on drugs, and it's just like it's people on drugs,
addicted to drugs, and it's like I'm notting drugs, needing drugs,
needing money for drugs, and you and I have both
been there. It's so ugly and it's like, don't do it,

(14:54):
don't just don't go near it.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You and I've been there, or we've seen people closely
who have been there.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes, it's a it's a one way street to living hell.
You're not you anymore. It's terrible and you're a horrible person.
And then when it's over, you have to fucking with
yourself and the ship.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You did and you sober up and it's just awful.
There's ship that I tell my therapist that I would
never like. I'm so embarrassed of sayings I know back then.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I know it's because you just I mean that, because yeah,
it's just a mistake. It's not you, and it's a
lot of people make it. It's not who you, who
you would think you are. Yeah, what was I gonna say?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh? And also I'm never having children because fuck. Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
And also, uh, stay in school, stay in school, stay
off drug, be cool, stay in school, be cool.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Write a fucking alligator.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
And if you're a fucking raccoon, if you're a raccoon,
write an alligator.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's our best advice, I think, Yeah, hang ten on
an alligator and just be chill, just be chill as
fuck and stay sexy and don't get murdered. Bye bye.
Almost want a cookie? Cookie?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
One more Alice Cookie. Ellis my Cookie. He's just staring,
very larious. Bye,
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