October 28, 2024 • 18 mins
This week’s hometowns include a murder in Chicago and creating a haunted house.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello and welcome to my favorite murder the MINISOI. We
read you your stories.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You know what we're going to say.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, is this our first time doing this on video hometowns?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's exciting. I'm wearing Halloween colors because this is coming
out around Halloween.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Great planning. Look like a Halloween pirate kind of Yeah,
it's a cute shirt.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm wearing a color under black.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Proud of you, baby steps.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah. Also, apparently a lot of blush on my left
cheek and not as much on my right for some reason.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
This is showbiz, baby, Hey, do you want to go first?
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The subject line of this email is hometown the classic
clowne Killer, and it says, hello, Karen and Georgia. I've
never been person have crazy stories, so I've never wrote
in unfortunately, and have only listened to every MINIESO. Well,
thank you so much. But to my surprise, I found
out some crazy hometown news at my morning breakfast job.
(01:14):
I lived close to the Chicago suburbs and I serve
at a local cafe. So on, we're in Chicago. Okay.
Remember the subject line that I just read you. Okay.
So the other day was telling my coworker about a
murder that happened in his family. He started off by
telling us that his mom's cousin used to be in
landscaping and worked for a legitimate company. First cousin removed
(01:38):
decided to do some freelance work to have extra income,
but unfortunately that decision cost him his life. The cousin,
a young boy, ended up working at John Wayne Gacy's house.
Fuck fuck, and then it says, and you know how
it goes. Oh, sadly, he was murdered by gaycy and
his family found out many years after his death, and
(02:00):
even know what happened to his mom's cousin until way
later in life because he never met him. When I
heard the story, I was so gad and the murdering
not in me. Wanted to know every detail, but I
didn't want to come off as pushy. It's crazy to
know that there is a connection between my manager and
that killer who terrorized Chicago and so many people in
(02:20):
the seventies. Anyways, I love you, guys, and I hope
you pick my story so I can be stunned by
listening to the next minisode Baye and then there's no name.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Classic a lot of anonymous I like it. Wow, that's
just like they just didn't have a chance against that monster.
It's just so sad.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Also, I think that's that thing if you're talking about
Chicago in the seventies and there are probably so many
families that have similar stories that are ripple effects just
keep on going. Yeah, absolutely so he had so many
victims and it was it went on for so long.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow. All right, Okay, this one's called well, maybe I
shouldn't tell you. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you the title. Okay,
murder Ladies. It was my fifteenth birthday and my best
friend had bought me tickets to see The Jesus and
Mary Chane as a present. We lived in Indianapolis and
no good bands came our way, but John Cougar Mellencamp
(03:20):
seems to play every damn weekend. So we had to
go to Cincinnati to see the show. Her older sister
drove us. She was eighteen but had never gotten her license.
There old school trash dad lent us his van and
so we packed six of us in it and drove
over state lines.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Drove over state lines, and the driver doesn't have a
driver's licen that's right, Okay, great.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We got out of the concert around midnight to find
ourselves in the middle of a late spring snowstorm. But
we were young and had all the humorous that lubricated
knees and a flexible spine gave teenagers in the nineties,
so proceeded to drive home in near whiteout conditions. I
fell asleep almost immediately and only woke up to a
t is pressure on the side of my head. I
(04:02):
didn't know what was going on, but very clearly heard
the driver say, Claudia, hold on, it's gonna be okay.
I didn't panic, and I remained calm as I felt
the pressure moved to my shoulder, leg and back to
my head. Apparently we had hit a patch of black
ice on the highway overpass and rolled the van down
the embankment five times. God only the people in the
(04:26):
front seat were wearing seat belts. The others were thrown
from the car, while I remained inside being tossed around
on the way down. Incredibly, everyone survived. The pressure I
felt on my head was me being upside down in
the car. I think being relaxed helped me avoid serious injury.
At the hospital, I thanked my friend's older sister or
(04:47):
the driver for reassuring me. She looked at me the
way only an eighteen year old girl can look at
her little sister's dumb friend and said, in the most
withering voice, I didn't say that. Why would I talk
to you? Oh yeah, boyfriend's in the front seat and
my sister is in the back. But I tell you
to be calm right.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Excuse me, driver, go clop yourself for real? What you
did this?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
This is all on you. I died of embarrassment a
little and never brought it up again. But as I've aged,
I've stopped thinking about that with a cringe of humiliation,
but instead with curiosity. That voice was so clear and
kept me completely calm as my body was violently being
tumbled in a giant metal can. I've never heard a
plausible explanation for this until now. Thank you for doing
(05:33):
a show about the third Man. Now I can go
back to just feeling stupid for thinking that any eighteen
year old anywhere would ever put my well being above theirs.
And it was called holy shit. I had third Man
stay sexy and get a license driver to take you
to a concert in another state.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Claudia, Claudia, so glad you survive. Yeah, never talk to
that person again.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
No good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Although it might have been your rendition, she could have
said it nicer, but still no, but still no. I
guess that's not true because the words were ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Harsh, totally What a dick, What a dick.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Here's my next one. The subject line of this email
is realtor murderino here answer about crime disclosure from today's minisode. Hi,
Karen and Georgia, I just heard you ask for realtor
murderinos on today's minisode. I'm actually a broker in Tennessee
and can answer for myself. What y'all are talking about
(06:33):
is stigmatized properties in realtor speak. It's actually a pretty
hot topic. I am so excited.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I can't wait. This is the best.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Let's talk about meth labs, Okay, I want showed a
house with bullet holes in the walls, and my client's
running out the front door. The neighbor hollered across the fence.
Somebody got keeled in that house as soon as we
stepped outside. It turns out multiple people were killed in
a shootout and the house had been empty and put
up for sale.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Years later.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I showed it post renovation and told my clients about
the last time I showed it. Then the seller wandered
in and told us all about the desks that had
happened there and how the house was haunted. We were
mostly trying to get away from the seller, and my
clients had no more interest in the house after that.
Death and crimes actually happened quite often quote unquote at home,
(07:24):
and over decades. They really add up logistically. How far
back should people disclose and what should they disclose? A
common ethics test question is about how you don't have
to disclose as an agent. It's hard because people often
want to be rid of haunted houses or the site
where a family tragedy occurred. Their agent's job is to
(07:45):
represent their best interests and help them sell the house
at the best possible terms. I wouldn't want to deceive
buyers and also don't want to hurt my sellers. I
advise my clients to first disclose what the state requires,
and then be honest about things that neighbors would tell
the new buyers. Anyway, that's great. We want to be
the source and not break trust with potential buyers. Thank
(08:08):
you for all you do. I've been listening since my
stepmom told me about y'all in twenty nineteen. And what
a gift y'all are. And that's from Kate in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Wow. Yeah, I can't decide if Like I just wouldn't
want to know if I loved the house, But then
I'd be pissed off if I found out from neighbors
that I wasn't told, you know what I mean, Like,
you can't have both.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
No one wants to be the last to know. That's
the rule in all of life.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Feel tricked somehow.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, So if you're somebody that's like integral to that thing,
like being the buyer, then you have to tell people
as much as you can.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I feel like, if you're buying a house, you
have to think about selling it in the future, And
is this going to cause a decrease in you know,
it's worth because of that? So like do you really
want to live with that?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah? And then also how back it's just like, yeah,
the drama of it, how far back it goes? Yeah,
I don't know for sure. Okay, what we're saying is
it's up to you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yes, classic hometown with family ties and a throwback to
episode to sixty eight. Howdy, lots of pleasantries and love
to Georgia, Karen and the MFM crew. I've been a
listener since twenty eighteen. Thank you to the waiter who
recommended you. Hey, and have always wanted a reason to
write about my crazy liberal Appalachian family. Hey, Well I
(09:25):
found the reason when I listened to episode two sixty
eight All Stars of Seventh Grade back in April twenty
twenty one, aka the Cocaine Bear episode. Yes Classic, I've
been sitting out here for three years because of this
little thing called analysis paralysis. I couldn't help a chuckle
when Karen said, no one in Kelly wants that Kentucky weed,
(09:47):
and Georgia replied with, no, thanks, keep it for your
stud horses. We're good over here. I don't even nearally
know what a stud horse is, so I don't hear
myself saying.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's all lie, she's thinking of a different podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'm for sure, actually, And that sounds like something I
would say that, and then you would say so, I
think she's got her voices confused.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Could be that, yeah, But also I wouldn't say, stud horses.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I don't know. You grew up next to like a
horse farm area, but not horse breeders.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, that's like a weird different thing.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay, I thought to myself, if they only knew, Mike,
you know what's funny. Huh.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
We're talking about this like there's not an immediate way
to prove it, but listening.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
We know what's wrong as we're saying it. We both
know that clearly.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's an exercise and wrongness on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My grandfather was one of the founding members of the
Cornbread Mafia. What a quick history of the Cornbread Mafia.
This was a group of Kentucky men who ran the
largest domestic marijuana production operation in US history. Between nineteen
eighty five and nineteen eighty nine. Seventy Kentuckians were accused
of growing one hundred and eighty tons of marijuana on
(10:52):
twenty nine farms in ten states. So I guess someone
wanted that shitty Kentucky weed.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, we were wrong, We were wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Several books have been written by past members. Plenty fled
the US when the arrest began in nineteen eighty nine
and never came back. My grandfather did not flee and
served plenty of prison time on and off. The family
even claims the youngest sibling was conceived at a conjugal visit.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
My mom married to this family when I was a
young teen, so learning about this storied history fascinated me.
I had several friends in high school whose parents wouldn't
let them come to my house, even though my stepdad
never had a hand in that family business, and the
Cornbread mafia is still blamed for deaths and crimes in
the area to this day.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Some of my favorite comical stories of that time include
my grandpa stealing a tractor trailer full of John Dear
writing mowers and passing them out to neighbors so everyone
had a brand new mower. Not suspicious at all.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And my stepdad unbarring five gallon buckets of money in
the backyard when his dad was in prison, only to
find that the lid had not been completely popped on,
so all the money inside was soaked, so he, his
mom and siblings had to lay tens of thousands of
dollars all around the house so it could dry out.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Oh shit, we at least I thought you were gonna
say it like molded h Thank god.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I wonder how many more buckets are still buried out
there that they just forgot about. Dig Dig Dig. Thanks
for reading my hometown. I hope you enjoyed it, and
most importantly, stay sexy and smoke some shitty Kentucky weed. Xoxo,
Haley from Alaska. You can use my name, Haley. That
was a great one. Just the phrase cornbread mafia is
(12:35):
my favorite. Yeah. I'd never even heard of.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That at all. I mean, look, we got a good education.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
If you've ever heard us make snap judgments that were
wrong about in this podcast, please write it. Here's my
last one and the subject line is vintage Murderino scrapbook found.
Ooh ladies, While this is not your typical treasure find,
it's pretty freaking cool. I work cataloging and photographing at
(13:03):
an auction a state cleanout business.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh dream right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
While in putting the next auction, I came across a
scrap book loaded with newspaper clippings from the forties. Every
last clipping involved kidnapping, disappeared accidents, homicides, and death. I
was in my glory, not actually cataloging or photographing, but
skimming through all the articles that a long ago Murderino
(13:31):
thought were worth saving. Wow, thought you'd enjoy knowing you
didn't invent it, you just perfected it. Stay sexy and God,
why did they want that? They wanted to just be
able to look through it?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And that's wild.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, yeah, it's like, oh, this scared me.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Put it in a book.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh I don't like that at all. Have it in
a book or they liked it? Could have liked it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, that's a good one. Okay, I have a Halloween
one family built Halloween haunted house. Hey, Karen and Georgia.
I'll be using Georgia font to tell you, and I'm
using Georgia font on mine, of course, to tell you
about my dad's obsession with creating Halloween haunted houses. Legend
tells the first one was in an abandoned church. I
(14:19):
was a baby at the time, so I wasn't able
to tell them that this was a bad idea. The
second haunted house was built in the basement of our house.
It was a new build, so Dad made sure we
had an extra large basement. We were able to fit
a dark maze, four scenes and sprinkle in a few
jump scares. You would start by going through the dark
maze being tickled by fishing line hanging from the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh, I know, it's a good idea, very good.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
The first scene was an infested ice cream shop with
a deranged ice cream man. That's clever. We created a
display case and put bugs all over the ice cream.
The second scene was an optical illusion room. Hundreds of
highlighter dots were placed on black walls, and I put
on a black full body suit, also covered with highlighter dots,
(15:03):
so when you walk in, it looks like I'm not
in the room until I move. The third scene was
a quick recreation of the opening to Scream when Drew
barrymar was murdered by a ghost face. We included the
iconic mask, white sweater, and blonde bob. The fourth scene
was a classic raving mad surgeon. We turned our pool
table into a surgery table and had an actor getting
(15:26):
their legs on off. All of the actors and guides
were teens from the neighborhood. Oh fun, right. I will
always remember my older sister wearing a headset while waving
people down the stairs. My older brother cutting off someone's leg. Oh,
my other older sister getting stabbed by ghosts face. The
Haunted House was very popular. We had a line going
out the front door. Every year after walking through it,
(15:48):
the kids would go trick or treating. All the parents
partied at our house.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Wowuck.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Essentially the entire neighborhood was crammed into my house every
Halloween until my mom got tired of it. Dad moved
Haunted House to a large storage unit where we kept
it going for a few more years. It was an
amazing experience when it all came together. Sounds incredible, like
the work that it took every year.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But also like that, like providing this kind of community
central will do it for you. It's so generous. Yeah,
it's so great.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah. Now that I'm older, I've started to think more
about building the Haunted House rather than being in it.
My dad, older brother, and I spent a few months
building it. I learned how to build plywood walls, make scenes,
do sect design, and act. Now that I'm older, I
appreciate the skills my dad taught me and the strength
of our community. I love you, Dad, Karen and Georgia,
(16:42):
You're great. YadA YadA YadA. Thanks for the podcast and
it's Michael and Simon the cat.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh oh, I know, Michael, You're so lucky.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
What a memory to have the idea that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
The older sister because also it's like head piece. But
did she also have a clipboard because I'm seeing a clipboard.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Absolutely, I but she was so bossy.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And I bet she had really big hair, Oh my god,
the biggest, right. Yeah, she's like all of your siblings
are doing the thing. Yeah, that suits their personality the best.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They get to explore like different ways in which they
could shine.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
And then Michael was the one who's like, I want
to be the creep in a dark room that suddenly
like you realize someone's in there with.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right, that's such a mettle child behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, but at least he's no mad surgeon.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That's true. Right, it's your stories, And thank you for
writing them if you already have, and write them again.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And right, right, right and right for yourself. Don't forget
to journal. That's exactly right, and nice one and stay sexy,
don't get murdered.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Ny Elvis, do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Our editor is Aristotle Osceveda. This episode was mixed by
Leona Squalacci, emailing her hometowns to My Favorite Murder at
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Speaker 1 (18:10):
Goodbye,
Hello and welcome to my favorite murder the MINISOI. We
read you your stories.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You know what we're going to say.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, is this our first time doing this on video hometowns?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's exciting. I'm wearing Halloween colors because this is coming
out around Halloween.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Great planning. Look like a Halloween pirate kind of Yeah,
it's a cute shirt.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm wearing a color under black.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Proud of you, baby steps.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah. Also, apparently a lot of blush on my left
cheek and not as much on my right for some reason.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
This is showbiz, baby, Hey, do you want to go first?
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The subject line of this email is hometown the classic
clowne Killer, and it says, hello, Karen and Georgia. I've
never been person have crazy stories, so I've never wrote
in unfortunately, and have only listened to every MINIESO. Well,
thank you so much. But to my surprise, I found
out some crazy hometown news at my morning breakfast job.
(01:14):
I lived close to the Chicago suburbs and I serve
at a local cafe. So on, we're in Chicago. Okay.
Remember the subject line that I just read you. Okay.
So the other day was telling my coworker about a
murder that happened in his family. He started off by
telling us that his mom's cousin used to be in
landscaping and worked for a legitimate company. First cousin removed
(01:38):
decided to do some freelance work to have extra income,
but unfortunately that decision cost him his life. The cousin,
a young boy, ended up working at John Wayne Gacy's house.
Fuck fuck, and then it says, and you know how
it goes. Oh, sadly, he was murdered by gaycy and
his family found out many years after his death, and
(02:00):
even know what happened to his mom's cousin until way
later in life because he never met him. When I
heard the story, I was so gad and the murdering
not in me. Wanted to know every detail, but I
didn't want to come off as pushy. It's crazy to
know that there is a connection between my manager and
that killer who terrorized Chicago and so many people in
(02:20):
the seventies. Anyways, I love you, guys, and I hope
you pick my story so I can be stunned by
listening to the next minisode Baye and then there's no name.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Classic a lot of anonymous I like it. Wow, that's
just like they just didn't have a chance against that monster.
It's just so sad.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Also, I think that's that thing if you're talking about
Chicago in the seventies and there are probably so many
families that have similar stories that are ripple effects just
keep on going. Yeah, absolutely so he had so many
victims and it was it went on for so long.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow. All right, Okay, this one's called well, maybe I
shouldn't tell you. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you the title. Okay,
murder Ladies. It was my fifteenth birthday and my best
friend had bought me tickets to see The Jesus and
Mary Chane as a present. We lived in Indianapolis and
no good bands came our way, but John Cougar Mellencamp
(03:20):
seems to play every damn weekend. So we had to
go to Cincinnati to see the show. Her older sister
drove us. She was eighteen but had never gotten her license.
There old school trash dad lent us his van and
so we packed six of us in it and drove
over state lines.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Drove over state lines, and the driver doesn't have a
driver's licen that's right, Okay, great.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We got out of the concert around midnight to find
ourselves in the middle of a late spring snowstorm. But
we were young and had all the humorous that lubricated
knees and a flexible spine gave teenagers in the nineties,
so proceeded to drive home in near whiteout conditions. I
fell asleep almost immediately and only woke up to a
t is pressure on the side of my head. I
(04:02):
didn't know what was going on, but very clearly heard
the driver say, Claudia, hold on, it's gonna be okay.
I didn't panic, and I remained calm as I felt
the pressure moved to my shoulder, leg and back to
my head. Apparently we had hit a patch of black
ice on the highway overpass and rolled the van down
the embankment five times. God only the people in the
(04:26):
front seat were wearing seat belts. The others were thrown
from the car, while I remained inside being tossed around
on the way down. Incredibly, everyone survived. The pressure I
felt on my head was me being upside down in
the car. I think being relaxed helped me avoid serious injury.
At the hospital, I thanked my friend's older sister or
(04:47):
the driver for reassuring me. She looked at me the
way only an eighteen year old girl can look at
her little sister's dumb friend and said, in the most
withering voice, I didn't say that. Why would I talk
to you? Oh yeah, boyfriend's in the front seat and
my sister is in the back. But I tell you
to be calm right.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Excuse me, driver, go clop yourself for real? What you
did this?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
This is all on you. I died of embarrassment a
little and never brought it up again. But as I've aged,
I've stopped thinking about that with a cringe of humiliation,
but instead with curiosity. That voice was so clear and
kept me completely calm as my body was violently being
tumbled in a giant metal can. I've never heard a
plausible explanation for this until now. Thank you for doing
(05:33):
a show about the third Man. Now I can go
back to just feeling stupid for thinking that any eighteen
year old anywhere would ever put my well being above theirs.
And it was called holy shit. I had third Man
stay sexy and get a license driver to take you
to a concert in another state.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Claudia, Claudia, so glad you survive. Yeah, never talk to
that person again.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
No good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Although it might have been your rendition, she could have
said it nicer, but still no, but still no. I
guess that's not true because the words were ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Harsh, totally What a dick, What a dick.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Here's my next one. The subject line of this email
is realtor murderino here answer about crime disclosure from today's minisode. Hi,
Karen and Georgia, I just heard you ask for realtor
murderinos on today's minisode. I'm actually a broker in Tennessee
and can answer for myself. What y'all are talking about
(06:33):
is stigmatized properties in realtor speak. It's actually a pretty
hot topic. I am so excited.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I can't wait. This is the best.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Let's talk about meth labs, Okay, I want showed a
house with bullet holes in the walls, and my client's
running out the front door. The neighbor hollered across the fence.
Somebody got keeled in that house as soon as we
stepped outside. It turns out multiple people were killed in
a shootout and the house had been empty and put
up for sale.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Years later.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I showed it post renovation and told my clients about
the last time I showed it. Then the seller wandered
in and told us all about the desks that had
happened there and how the house was haunted. We were
mostly trying to get away from the seller, and my
clients had no more interest in the house after that.
Death and crimes actually happened quite often quote unquote at home,
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and over decades. They really add up logistically. How far
back should people disclose and what should they disclose? A
common ethics test question is about how you don't have
to disclose as an agent. It's hard because people often
want to be rid of haunted houses or the site
where a family tragedy occurred. Their agent's job is to
(07:45):
represent their best interests and help them sell the house
at the best possible terms. I wouldn't want to deceive
buyers and also don't want to hurt my sellers. I
advise my clients to first disclose what the state requires,
and then be honest about things that neighbors would tell
the new buyers. Anyway, that's great. We want to be
the source and not break trust with potential buyers. Thank
(08:08):
you for all you do. I've been listening since my
stepmom told me about y'all in twenty nineteen. And what
a gift y'all are. And that's from Kate in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Wow. Yeah, I can't decide if Like I just wouldn't
want to know if I loved the house, But then
I'd be pissed off if I found out from neighbors
that I wasn't told, you know what I mean, Like,
you can't have both.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
No one wants to be the last to know. That's
the rule in all of life.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Feel tricked somehow.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, So if you're somebody that's like integral to that thing,
like being the buyer, then you have to tell people
as much as you can.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I feel like, if you're buying a house, you
have to think about selling it in the future, And
is this going to cause a decrease in you know,
it's worth because of that? So like do you really
want to live with that?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah? And then also how back it's just like, yeah,
the drama of it, how far back it goes? Yeah,
I don't know for sure. Okay, what we're saying is
it's up to you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yes, classic hometown with family ties and a throwback to
episode to sixty eight. Howdy, lots of pleasantries and love
to Georgia, Karen and the MFM crew. I've been a
listener since twenty eighteen. Thank you to the waiter who
recommended you. Hey, and have always wanted a reason to
write about my crazy liberal Appalachian family. Hey, Well I
(09:25):
found the reason when I listened to episode two sixty
eight All Stars of Seventh Grade back in April twenty
twenty one, aka the Cocaine Bear episode. Yes Classic, I've
been sitting out here for three years because of this
little thing called analysis paralysis. I couldn't help a chuckle
when Karen said, no one in Kelly wants that Kentucky weed,
(09:47):
and Georgia replied with, no, thanks, keep it for your
stud horses. We're good over here. I don't even nearally
know what a stud horse is, so I don't hear
myself saying.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's all lie, she's thinking of a different podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'm for sure, actually, And that sounds like something I
would say that, and then you would say so, I
think she's got her voices confused.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Could be that, yeah, But also I wouldn't say, stud horses.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I don't know. You grew up next to like a
horse farm area, but not horse breeders.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, that's like a weird different thing.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay, I thought to myself, if they only knew, Mike,
you know what's funny. Huh.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
We're talking about this like there's not an immediate way
to prove it, but listening.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
We know what's wrong as we're saying it. We both
know that clearly.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's an exercise and wrongness on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My grandfather was one of the founding members of the
Cornbread Mafia. What a quick history of the Cornbread Mafia.
This was a group of Kentucky men who ran the
largest domestic marijuana production operation in US history. Between nineteen
eighty five and nineteen eighty nine. Seventy Kentuckians were accused
of growing one hundred and eighty tons of marijuana on
(10:52):
twenty nine farms in ten states. So I guess someone
wanted that shitty Kentucky weed.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, we were wrong, We were wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Several books have been written by past members. Plenty fled
the US when the arrest began in nineteen eighty nine
and never came back. My grandfather did not flee and
served plenty of prison time on and off. The family
even claims the youngest sibling was conceived at a conjugal visit.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
My mom married to this family when I was a
young teen, so learning about this storied history fascinated me.
I had several friends in high school whose parents wouldn't
let them come to my house, even though my stepdad
never had a hand in that family business, and the
Cornbread mafia is still blamed for deaths and crimes in
the area to this day.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Some of my favorite comical stories of that time include
my grandpa stealing a tractor trailer full of John Dear
writing mowers and passing them out to neighbors so everyone
had a brand new mower. Not suspicious at all.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And my stepdad unbarring five gallon buckets of money in
the backyard when his dad was in prison, only to
find that the lid had not been completely popped on,
so all the money inside was soaked, so he, his
mom and siblings had to lay tens of thousands of
dollars all around the house so it could dry out.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Oh shit, we at least I thought you were gonna
say it like molded h Thank god.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I wonder how many more buckets are still buried out
there that they just forgot about. Dig Dig Dig. Thanks
for reading my hometown. I hope you enjoyed it, and
most importantly, stay sexy and smoke some shitty Kentucky weed. Xoxo,
Haley from Alaska. You can use my name, Haley. That
was a great one. Just the phrase cornbread mafia is
(12:35):
my favorite. Yeah. I'd never even heard of.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That at all. I mean, look, we got a good education.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
If you've ever heard us make snap judgments that were
wrong about in this podcast, please write it. Here's my
last one and the subject line is vintage Murderino scrapbook found.
Ooh ladies, While this is not your typical treasure find,
it's pretty freaking cool. I work cataloging and photographing at
(13:03):
an auction a state cleanout business.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh dream right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
While in putting the next auction, I came across a
scrap book loaded with newspaper clippings from the forties. Every
last clipping involved kidnapping, disappeared accidents, homicides, and death. I
was in my glory, not actually cataloging or photographing, but
skimming through all the articles that a long ago Murderino
(13:31):
thought were worth saving. Wow, thought you'd enjoy knowing you
didn't invent it, you just perfected it. Stay sexy and God,
why did they want that? They wanted to just be
able to look through it?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And that's wild.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, yeah, it's like, oh, this scared me.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Put it in a book.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh I don't like that at all. Have it in
a book or they liked it? Could have liked it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, that's a good one. Okay, I have a Halloween
one family built Halloween haunted house. Hey, Karen and Georgia.
I'll be using Georgia font to tell you, and I'm
using Georgia font on mine, of course, to tell you
about my dad's obsession with creating Halloween haunted houses. Legend
tells the first one was in an abandoned church. I
(14:19):
was a baby at the time, so I wasn't able
to tell them that this was a bad idea. The
second haunted house was built in the basement of our house.
It was a new build, so Dad made sure we
had an extra large basement. We were able to fit
a dark maze, four scenes and sprinkle in a few
jump scares. You would start by going through the dark
maze being tickled by fishing line hanging from the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh, I know, it's a good idea, very good.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
The first scene was an infested ice cream shop with
a deranged ice cream man. That's clever. We created a
display case and put bugs all over the ice cream.
The second scene was an optical illusion room. Hundreds of
highlighter dots were placed on black walls, and I put
on a black full body suit, also covered with highlighter dots,
(15:03):
so when you walk in, it looks like I'm not
in the room until I move. The third scene was
a quick recreation of the opening to Scream when Drew
barrymar was murdered by a ghost face. We included the
iconic mask, white sweater, and blonde bob. The fourth scene
was a classic raving mad surgeon. We turned our pool
table into a surgery table and had an actor getting
(15:26):
their legs on off. All of the actors and guides
were teens from the neighborhood. Oh fun, right. I will
always remember my older sister wearing a headset while waving
people down the stairs. My older brother cutting off someone's leg. Oh,
my other older sister getting stabbed by ghosts face. The
Haunted House was very popular. We had a line going
out the front door. Every year after walking through it,
(15:48):
the kids would go trick or treating. All the parents
partied at our house.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Wowuck.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Essentially the entire neighborhood was crammed into my house every
Halloween until my mom got tired of it. Dad moved
Haunted House to a large storage unit where we kept
it going for a few more years. It was an
amazing experience when it all came together. Sounds incredible, like
the work that it took every year.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But also like that, like providing this kind of community
central will do it for you. It's so generous. Yeah,
it's so great.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah. Now that I'm older, I've started to think more
about building the Haunted House rather than being in it.
My dad, older brother, and I spent a few months
building it. I learned how to build plywood walls, make scenes,
do sect design, and act. Now that I'm older, I
appreciate the skills my dad taught me and the strength
of our community. I love you, Dad, Karen and Georgia,
(16:42):
You're great. YadA YadA YadA. Thanks for the podcast and
it's Michael and Simon the cat.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh oh, I know, Michael, You're so lucky.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
What a memory to have the idea that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
The older sister because also it's like head piece. But
did she also have a clipboard because I'm seeing a clipboard.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Absolutely, I but she was so bossy.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And I bet she had really big hair, Oh my god,
the biggest, right. Yeah, she's like all of your siblings
are doing the thing. Yeah, that suits their personality the best.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They get to explore like different ways in which they
could shine.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
And then Michael was the one who's like, I want
to be the creep in a dark room that suddenly
like you realize someone's in there with.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right, that's such a mettle child behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, but at least he's no mad surgeon.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That's true. Right, it's your stories, And thank you for
writing them if you already have, and write them again.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And right, right, right and right for yourself. Don't forget
to journal. That's exactly right, and nice one and stay sexy,
don't get murdered.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Ny Elvis, do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Our editor is Aristotle Osceveda. This episode was mixed by
Leona Squalacci, emailing her hometowns to My Favorite Murder at
gmail dot com and follow a show on Instagram and
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Speaker 1 (18:10):
Goodbye,
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