April 28, 2025 • 26 mins
This week’s hometowns include a grandma confronting an intruder and shitbag sisters.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to my favorite Murder the minisode.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi. Here it is here.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It is small in a container delivered to your ears.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I want to go first.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Sure, so this is coming out April twenty eighth, so
important day for you. Well, the month of April is
actually an important memorial which I did not remember.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Maybe you will.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The subject line of this email is Oklahoma City bombing
thirtieth anniversary, so it says, dear Karena, Georgia, my hometown
was the victim of the deadliest act of domestic terrorism
in US history, the Oklahoma City bombing. I've been listening
to the podcast for years but never written in. It's
the thirtieth anniversary of the bombing this April, so I
(01:04):
thought this would be the time to write in and
remember those who were lost or affected by this tragic event.
On April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five, the Murah Federal Building
in Oklahoma City was bombed. This resulted in the deaths
of one hundred and sixty eight people, including nineteen children,
and over six hundred were injured. The building housed agencies
(01:24):
like ATF, US Secret Service, and US military recruiting, a
credit union, and many others as well as a daycare.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The daycare of like all the workers there.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, that was kind of the lead in all the stories.
That is so devastating. Okay, we're back. In the email,
it says this attack was executed by Timothy McVeigh, an
Army veteran who believed the government was oppressive and infringing
on Americans' rights to possess guns. It is also believed
that the ATF rate on Wago, Texas, furthered his extremist
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political views and was the reason April nineteenth was the
date chosen for the bombing. He was arrested just ninety
minutes after the bombing during a routine traffic stop, and
at that time police had no idea he had anything
to do with the bombing. While still in custody, it
was discovered that he was involved. McVeigh was executed by
lethal injection on June eleventh, two thousand and one. Terry Nichols,
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his main co conspirator, is serving life in prison.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Without the possibility of pearl.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I have many friends whose families were affected, as I
was born just a year after the incident, and any
Oklahoma you talked to will likely have a story.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I have two.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Personal connections through my mom. She worked for Pat Ryan
for many years, the former US attorney in the prosecution
and conviction of McVeigh. She has also worked for an
attorney for twenty five plus years whose son was one
of the survivors of the daycare in the bombing. I
realize the story of this magnitude needs more time, and
I wish we could have read about some of the victims,
(02:53):
but you can read about each victim on the Memorial
Museum website, which is Memorial Museum dot com. This is
my hometown, and I hope you think of Oklahoma on
April nineteenth and come visit us in our memorials someday
ssdgm K.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Wow. Yeah, we've never covered it because it's just so horrific.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We've never covered it because to me, when we first
started this podcast, it's like talking about serial killers, right,
But something like that is so outside of what we
even knew to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Right, we wouldn't be able to tell the story with
what it deserves.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, Okay, well, let's change pace.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My first one is called classic Hometown from my grandparents,
and it's definitely a classic.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It says hello besties, and beasties.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
My dad, aunt, uncle, and I were hanging out with
my grandparents in a hotel we were all staying at
and they were all reminiscing about small town life in
the eighties. My aunt Cindy's high school graduation came up,
which was memorable because a drug guy got on stage,
yelled multiple profanities, and mooned everyone ever.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Mooning was popular.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It was a really big deal to pull down your
pants and show people your ass.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It was a statement, the height of comedy.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
The drunk guy then attempted to escape through the audience,
only to be tackled by the vice principal, who immediately
punched the drunk guy in the face multiple times. Oh no, man,
that guy was crazy, said my dad, referring to his
vice principal. If he wanted to punish us, he made
us eat lunch with him. It worked because nobody wanted to.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Be around him. He was so crazy, just really intense.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's when my grandma decided to defend him by saying
he was a good vice principal.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Killed a guy, but I loved him. What.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
After I got over the absurdity of that statement, I
insisted that she tell me everything Apparently she liked him
because he was really nice to the parent volunteers, like
the time he cleaned up after a school dance by
himself so my grandma could attend church on Sunday. Both
my grandparents liked that he ran a tight ship and
didn't suffer any quote idiots messing with his m O.
(05:06):
And this says, I think this speaks to how type
a my dad's side of the family is. A couple
years after my aunt Cindy's wild graduation, their beloved advice
principal got promoted to become the principal of a different
high school, where he clashed with the bureaucracy of.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The school district.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
One day, he walked out of a meeting with the
superintendent and calmly told the secretaries to call the police
because he had just shot the superintendent. What my grandparents said,
he did it because he quote couldn't handle working with
idiots and quote distress drove him crazy. Oh no, I
googled his name later, and my dad's old vice principal
is still in prison. During his incarceration, he got multiple
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theology degrees and married one of the teachers from the
school he'd been principal of I have no idea if
they started dating before or after he became a murderer.
Either way, I'm sure it's a wild story. Anyway, I
should get back to work now. Maybe later I'll rease
send the time. My sister kind of lived through the
plot of while you were Sleeping.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Stay sexy and don't shoot your boss, even if he's
an idiot CJ.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She her, Oh my god, CJ, you said while you
were sleeping, which is the Sandra Bullock Bill Pullman movie
from Christmas time. I was thinking of the Julia Roberts
movie with the abusive husband where she has to escape
sleeping with the enemy. Sleeping with the enemy, that's the
first thing I thought of.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I fucking love that movie. But while you are Sleeping
is someone's in a coma falls in love with a brother?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I think, right, yes, it's like Sandra Bullock sees Peter Gallagher.
He's super hot. She's like, I love that guy. He
drops on the subway platform where the l trained platform
where she works. Yeah, she goes to the hospital to
make sure he's okay, and the family assumes she's the
girlfriends so she just plays along with it. And she
loves the family so much. But then slowly but surely
she's like, I actually give it away, but it's just.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
She loves no woman.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Guys, you gotta watch it. And this is Sandra Bullock.
She was the love of all of our lives back then.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's a classic.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
She went from while you were sleeping to fucking practical magic.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It's just like the speed.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh my gosh, she was girl. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
So this one.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The subject line is my hometown murder was on Forensic Files.
Three minute read right, and then it just starts, yes,
you read that right. I also believe the story would
make a great Columbo movie, but I missed the boat
on that one. Five year listener, first time writer. Anyways,
love you both to Bits and Karen. I just want
to say that mister shows, Watch Us Have Sex is
(07:34):
just about my favorite sketch in the.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
History of comedy. Bravo.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Wow, you should have seen how furious my dad was
when saw that sketch.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You let him watch it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We were I think we were just watching the episode
and then that one came on. It wasn't like I
was in every sketch, so then I was like, I
really want them to see me performing and he's.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Like, what the hell are you doing down there?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And I was like, oh, I didn't think you'd take
it literally any Well, you're a Catholic. Shit, Yes, that's
all not allowed. Okay, we're back in the email. I'll
try to keep it brief, but this story has many
twists and turns. In nineteen sixty six, Dianne and Jean,
and I'm going to assume the name is pronounced kitle
k eid eo Ketel or Kitele, a newly separated couple
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with four kids, living one block from my current home
in Phoenix, Arizona. Diane had been at a nearby bar
one night with a man she was seeing. They said
good night, and she drove home, only to never be
seen again. Jeane moved back into the family home after
her disappearance and was quickly ruled out as a suspect
as he told police how promiscuous she had become since
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their separation. Then it just says in all caps ugg Unfortunately,
the man she was with at the bar had died
of a heart attack the day after Diane went missing,
so he couldn't be questioned suspish, right, And then it
says unreal with an exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Flash forward four months and Jean had left his kids
sleeping at home to go to a nearby laundry mat.
A fire broke out in the house, killing two of.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
The four children.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
God, God, God.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The son Greg escaped through a window, while his younger sister,
Laurie was found inside, badly burned but alive. One of
her sister Wait this sounds familiar. One of her sisters
died on top of her trying to shield her from
the flames.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ah Jesus, and.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The other sister was found dead in her bed. A
horrible tragedy. The fire was ruled accidental as they found
a melted aluminum pot on the stove. Jean rebuilt the
house and raised the remaining two children there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Poor Laurie survived, only to endure an abusive life at
the hands of her father and brother.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh stop.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Flashed forward twenty seven years. In nineteen ninety three, Laurie,
now in her thirties, went to the Phoenix Police Department
to finally report a crime she witnessed as a child,
but was too scared of her father to do it sooner.
The night her mother disappeared, she and her sister had
witness Jane beating Diane to death. Then he dragged her
out by the pool and they watched as he dug
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her grave in the yard. At only five years old,
Laurie didn't understand what was happening and thought her mother
was asleep. The next day, Jean poured a concrete slab
over the grave. Now, in nineteen ninety three, Laurie was
able to show the police exactly where they would find
her mother's remains.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh my god, right.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
They used ground penetrating radar to find her skeleton with
a nylon wrapped around her neck and nineteen sixties women's clothing.
Fifty eight year old Jean was indicted for murder spent
the remaining ten years of his life in prison. We
take walks by the murder house and I think of
that poor lady and her children every single time. Stay
sexy and take a harder look at the spouse for
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crying out loud. Yeah, Katie, she her, I remember that
forensic This Forensic Files is so upsetting.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, that last part sounds really familiar with the concrete slab,
where it's like, you don't investigate a concrete slab that's
getting put in the backyard.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I guess, guess not. But yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Brave of the surviving daughter to do that. I mean,
that is fucking incredible in like such a testament. So
he probably started the fire too, right.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean, I think that's what we probably can assume,
although it could have been a horrible accident. Who knows, Like.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But then he had nothing to do with the heart attack,
because that is like why that's almost like good luck
for him, because they were like, oh, it must have
been that guy.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
If anyone knows more than the nineteen ninety three forensics
have told them to this point, it'd be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I'm sure we got a lot of Phoenix murderinos, right, Yeah,
they might know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Wow, good one.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, this is called a hot dog and almost certain death.
Hello Karen Georgia and all others affiliated.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I thought was gonna say afflicted.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was like, yeah, you could say that.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You could go at that, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I was listening to a mini episode.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I don't know which one, but hot dogs were yet
again the main subject.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Are we we don't know anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I started listening you guys in twenty twenty, and I've
always wanted to write in but I thought I had
no stories.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
My life is pretty regular, so no surprise there. While
listening to one.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Of you tell a story about a hot dog, it
finally clicked. I do have a story about that one
time I almost died hot dog in hand. The scene
eight year old me at my cousin's house, where my
mom was very skeptical of sending me. She had an
older set of twins that were always getting into trouble,
specifically my male cousin think miner's theft and harassment of
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the neighborhood children. Oh no, on this day, because they
were both going to be out, my mom wearily decided
to let me go. So me and my cousin, Melissa
and her friend all get ready to watch a movie,
and of course we went to make a snack. The
girls got popcorn ready and some honey buns from the cabinet.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I chose a hot dog. What's the fast forward?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The movie is on, the dog is inbun, and we
are in the living room. One of them, I'm not
sure who gets spooked by the shadowy figure standing outside
the window. Being the youngest, I thought they were just
messing with me. So when they told me to go
up to the window and look out. I wasn't scared
because I thought for sure this was a prank. I
get my eight year old self off the couch, hot
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dog in hand, and go check out the front window.
It's in that moment I'm staring face to face with
a man dressed head to toe in black with his
hood up. He starts yelling something. I turn around to
look at them, and just like in a movie, I
scream run. We all trip over each other and scramble
down the hallway to my cousin's room. One by one,
we file underneath the bed like Sardine's. It's at that
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moment I realized I still had the hot dog in
my hand. But before I could celebrate, the sound of
someone pounding on the bedroom window from outside filled my ears.
We all went silent as we slowly heard the window
slide open and someone propped themselves up. My heart was
beating so fast. I remember thinking, is this thing going
to come out of my chest? Next thing you feel
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is someone fall onto the bed from the window. I
see two feet on the floor and then two hands
on the floor. The man looks at my cousin, screams,
and then starts cracking up. It's at that moment that
my cousin Alan starts yelling at Alyssa, freaking out that
we didn't let him in the house.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's the bad boy twin brother cousin.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
He needs to get in it says.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Turns out he had gotten himself into a fight down
the street at the park and ran home to hide
from the people. Then this morning, when I was listening
to Karen tell a story about a hot dog, I
realized I have no idea what I did with that
hot dog, and I realized it was my cousin and
could finally catch my breath.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It's been under the bed all these days, right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They have since moved, and I wonder if when they
did they found the decrepit carcass of what was my
hot dog.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Those things don't mold, right, I don't think they can.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
They shouldn't, so SSDGM And if you're breaking into your house,
announce yourself so your little sister and cousins don't fear
sudden death, and also keep a tight hold on your
hot dog.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Love Kate.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's so funny to imagine like a little kid screaming
like for their life and hiding while holding a hot dog,
because it's like was she holding it like eating style,
whereas up to her mouth was it sideways?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's like a scared grip works for a hot dog,
so it's not like it's out of the question, like
keep hold of it, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
A scared grip is perfect for a hot dog.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That's right, may exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
That's why they have it every carnival.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
How do you eat a hot dog with a scared grip?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's gotta be scared, whether you're camping, whether you're scared
someone's just going to take it away from you.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You're a roller skating at the roller skating ring. Just
no casual grip on a hot dog, please.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
First of all, someone could snatch it out of your
hand and eat it themselves.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, or slap it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Out of your hand, which is the big thing that
my cousins and sister love to do, is just if
you're casually holding anything, slap it out of their hands.
That is.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I hate it, and it's the funniest thing I've ever
seen in my life. At the same time, it's always funny,
I know. I think I've seen your sister do that literally,
I bet you, I think I have.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You've seen her slap the hot dog out of my hand.
The subject line of this email is great Grandma beats
up intruder Okay, great Grandma nice Okay. It says hello,
All exactly right, folks. I've sent several stories, but fingers crossed,
you'll choose this as it's a favorite. My great grandma,
Grandma Marion, lived on her own till she was eighty
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eight years old. My nana and Papa, her son and
daughter in law, were always trying to convince her to
move in with them so they could look after her,
but she always insisted she was just fine on her own.
Grandma Marion lived in a duplex and down the street
was a boarding house. It was a pretty quiet neighborhood
for the most part. One day, she was in her
kitchen when she heard a noise. She walked into the
living room to see the front door open and heard
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noise coming from her bedroom. She looked inside and saw
a man crouch down and trying to unplug the phone
from the wall.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Jack, good God, that is just like immediate, sinister.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, this was an older house that had the heating
vents along the wall with beautiful metal scroll work covers
you know the type. Well, Unfortunately for this guy, Grandma
Marian was a badass bitch and wasn't about to wait
and see what his intentions were. She hurried over, grabbed
this man by the hair, and bashed his face multiple
times into that beautiful scroll work wall vent. Oh wait,
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because she had the advantage because he was bent down
looking at something else.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah. Oh, she just like fucking charge him. Oh yes, Marian.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
He jumped up, ran out and down the block. When
the police showed up, they followed the blood trail to
the boarding house and even write to his room. After this,
she finally agreed to move in with Nana and Pop Book.
My God, my siblings and I were very lucky to
have three wonderful grandparents in the same house, offering a
safe place for us whenever we needed, which sadly was often.
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Grandma Marian inspired our love of reading by reading to
us whenever we wanted, oh even if it was the
same book over and over. When her eyesight got too bad,
she would have us read to her. Thank you, ladies
for being such loving advocates of mental health and letting
us share in your jokes, stories and side stories. Stay
sexy and make sure you get a good grip on
the hair.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Rachel, Oh, Grandma Marian.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's so badass, because it's not like she walked in
and he was like rifling through her jewelry box. Unplugging
the phone is like premeditation to something else.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And she didn't even.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Fucking scream or think why she fucking That's what you
could apologize later if it turns out as a misunderstanding.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Right, you're in the house, it's too late.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's amazing. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
My last one's called shitbag sisters. It says hello, I
recently listened to a minisode where you asked for telephone stories,
and I have a bunch about my sister and I
from the days before caller I d side note. I
was trying to think of the name y'all use for irresponsible,
slash ass hoolish family members and had already typed shitbag
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sisters in the subject line before remembering trash dad, slash
trash mom, or in this case, trash sisters was the phrase.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I was looking for. Ship bag fits as well.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So it stays, it doesn't it It needs to be
like it's so perfectly more intense than normal for sisters.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Shipbag sisters, shipbag sister, it says.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Anyway, onto the stories. Much like many feral children left
to their own devices. Growing up in the late eighties
early nineties, my sister Jenny and I would often pick
up the phone and keep ourselves busy by making print
calls when we were bored in the days of the
telephone book. We would pick people at random and create
chaos with our calls.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Liked We totally fucking did this.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
One of our favorites was to call a person, tell
them we were contacting them because they had recently made
a purchase at venture and now defunct Midwest chain of
department stores where everyone's shop, and tell them they had
been chosen at random to receive a fifty dollars gift
certificate in a customer appreciation drawing. We even gave them
instractions about going to the service desk to pick it up.
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I can only imagine the confusion we created in the store.
I always hoped one day would be in the when
someone came to claim their quote prize. Sometimes we would
look for the couples listing in the phone book for
those who don't know. The white pages were residential listings
with name, address, and phone numbers. Each year, the phone
company would have you fill out how you wanted your
listing to appear, and couples would sometimes choose to list
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both the husband and wife's name. For this particular one,
we only called couples. If a man answered, we hung up.
If a woman answered, we asked for the man. If
she went to get the man on the phone, we
hung up. The exact situation we were looking for was
for the woman answering to take a message. The message
was quote, could you please let him know that ROXY
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called and I left my bra in his car yesterday.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
No.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I sometimes wonder if we've destroyed any marriages, but I'm
sure we sounded like kids making print calls, complete with
team giggling in the background.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I hope so God, we worship bags.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's We also found a man named Kermit who we
would call it random rivet and hang up.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
The phone book. The power of the phone book, Oh, you.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Could just like it was like a diary of everyone.
You knew everything about people. Yes, you could just fuck
with them.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Did you ever look up your own name in the
phone book as a kid.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Oh yeah, oh my god, we're famous.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
We were enlisted because my mom worked to the psychiatric hospital,
so we couldn't be in that. We weren't allowed to
be in the phone book.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That makes absolute sense, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Our piece to resistance came when I got a phone
in my room at thirteen.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
For the record, it was accorded.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
See through phone.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I had this that had multicolor inner workings. It says
I know one of you had one. I fucking totally did.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I wanted that. My sister got a pink and white
phone that was one of the most gorgeous pieces of
technology I'd ever seen because it was not a normal
looking phone. It was kind of like wide based and
it was very stylized. But that was the phone that
I would have picked if they let me get a phone,
right that they didn't. It was like Laura got a phone,
and then we're like, wait a second, no one gets
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a phone.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, it's a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No one can handle having a phone because it's just chaotic.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think I wanted like at a fucking like County
Fair bingo game, which is like the best time of
my life.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
It was so eighties though, that is the eighties. Is like,
it's a clear phone that you can see the wires,
and we'll make the wires pink and you for me on, yes.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I says, I know one of you had them. Mine
was probably purchased that venture. I had two windows in
my room, one overlooking the backyard and one that had
a view into our neighbor's kitchen. The phone was by
the backyard window. So for this prank, one of us
would be the watcher and the other the dialer. We
waited and tell our neighbors, a mom and dad and
two kids a little younger than us, would sit down
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to eat dinner. The watcher would tell the dialer to call,
then watch as someone, usually the dad got up from
the dinner to answer the phone. You know where this
is fucking going, And then the watcher would say, waiting
for the exact moment the dad placed his hand on
the handset. Now the family would sit back down, zoom eating.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Since the dialer didn't get to see into the kitchen,
of course, we had to switch rolls and repeat the prank.
We did this prank on and off for years. Oh
my fucking god.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So total shitbag. This is shitbag behavior.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
This is true shipbag behavior.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
These are the kinds of stories I think of when
I hear people complain about kids today wasting time on
their phones and gaming systems, saying things like we didn't
have these electronics growing up. We made our own fun
and found ways to entertain ourselves. We sure did, Yeah,
shipbag entertainment that may have led to retail chaos, divorce, ribbts,
and cold dinners?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Si, what was is wrong with us?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Everything? Everyway?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We were abandoned? Why wouldn't they pay attention to it?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Welcome, stay, Sexigan, don't even bother trying to answer the
phone at dinner?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Jesse, she her, and thank you Jesse. Because now we need.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Shipbag entertainment stories, please shitbag entertainment, Like, what did you
do that?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Now? You're like you would fucking have throttled yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
For yes to pass the time. For example, Andy Winnington,
my next door neighbor, and I filling our mom's old
purses with shit and putting them in the middle of
the road and waiting for.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
A car to drive by.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Literal shit, literal cowshit, go out into a field filling
a normal looking purse. I would be like, Mom, do
you want this purse, and she's like, no, you can
have it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh, I was thinking it was like purses they were
currently using with all their stuff in it.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
No, no, no, no, it would be an old purse. You
get your mom to give you an old purse. Go
into the field, put a bunch of cowshit like sometimes
like dried up big old cowboys.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Fill it up.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Put it in the center of our street, Eastman Lane
that no one ever went down. It literally was a
car every two hours, and then we would climb a
tree and wait. Usually what would happen is the car
would stop, they'd pick up the purse. They'd drive about
fifty feet and then slam on the brakes and swear,
and sometimes they would reverse and get where the hell
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are you whatever?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh my god. Whole point was just for them to
stop and pick it up. That's amazing, and just be
near some shit.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And actually, now that I'm giving this example, it is
a literal example of ship bag behavior.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It is oh my god, it is shit bag ship
bag behavior.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's ship bag shit bag behavior. Yeah wow, well that's perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Please send those to my favorite murder at Gmail or
wherever you get ahold of us, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, yeah, exactly send us your vibes, but definitely send
us your stories. This is the place to admit what
a shipbag you were, because we all were. Get it
off your chest, yeah, or bust your sister all judgment.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm not gonna say no judgment, all judgment, but really
in a friendly way.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We'll just get it all out at one time.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, stay sexy and don't get murdered. Good by, Elvis.
Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
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Speaker 2 (25:54):
Our senior producers are all a Hunter, Kick and Molly Smith.
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Speaker 2 (25:59):
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Hello, and welcome to my favorite Murder the minisode.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi. Here it is here.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It is small in a container delivered to your ears.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I want to go first.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Sure, so this is coming out April twenty eighth, so
important day for you. Well, the month of April is
actually an important memorial which I did not remember.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Maybe you will.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The subject line of this email is Oklahoma City bombing
thirtieth anniversary, so it says, dear Karena, Georgia, my hometown
was the victim of the deadliest act of domestic terrorism
in US history, the Oklahoma City bombing. I've been listening
to the podcast for years but never written in. It's
the thirtieth anniversary of the bombing this April, so I
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thought this would be the time to write in and
remember those who were lost or affected by this tragic event.
On April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five, the Murah Federal Building
in Oklahoma City was bombed. This resulted in the deaths
of one hundred and sixty eight people, including nineteen children,
and over six hundred were injured. The building housed agencies
(01:24):
like ATF, US Secret Service, and US military recruiting, a
credit union, and many others as well as a daycare.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The daycare of like all the workers there.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, that was kind of the lead in all the stories.
That is so devastating. Okay, we're back. In the email,
it says this attack was executed by Timothy McVeigh, an
Army veteran who believed the government was oppressive and infringing
on Americans' rights to possess guns. It is also believed
that the ATF rate on Wago, Texas, furthered his extremist
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political views and was the reason April nineteenth was the
date chosen for the bombing. He was arrested just ninety
minutes after the bombing during a routine traffic stop, and
at that time police had no idea he had anything
to do with the bombing. While still in custody, it
was discovered that he was involved. McVeigh was executed by
lethal injection on June eleventh, two thousand and one. Terry Nichols,
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his main co conspirator, is serving life in prison.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Without the possibility of pearl.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I have many friends whose families were affected, as I
was born just a year after the incident, and any
Oklahoma you talked to will likely have a story.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I have two.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Personal connections through my mom. She worked for Pat Ryan
for many years, the former US attorney in the prosecution
and conviction of McVeigh. She has also worked for an
attorney for twenty five plus years whose son was one
of the survivors of the daycare in the bombing. I
realize the story of this magnitude needs more time, and
I wish we could have read about some of the victims,
(02:53):
but you can read about each victim on the Memorial
Museum website, which is Memorial Museum dot com. This is
my hometown, and I hope you think of Oklahoma on
April nineteenth and come visit us in our memorials someday
ssdgm K.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Wow. Yeah, we've never covered it because it's just so horrific.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We've never covered it because to me, when we first
started this podcast, it's like talking about serial killers, right,
But something like that is so outside of what we
even knew to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Right, we wouldn't be able to tell the story with
what it deserves.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, Okay, well, let's change pace.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My first one is called classic Hometown from my grandparents,
and it's definitely a classic.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It says hello besties, and beasties.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
My dad, aunt, uncle, and I were hanging out with
my grandparents in a hotel we were all staying at
and they were all reminiscing about small town life in
the eighties. My aunt Cindy's high school graduation came up,
which was memorable because a drug guy got on stage,
yelled multiple profanities, and mooned everyone ever.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Mooning was popular.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It was a really big deal to pull down your
pants and show people your ass.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It was a statement, the height of comedy.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
The drunk guy then attempted to escape through the audience,
only to be tackled by the vice principal, who immediately
punched the drunk guy in the face multiple times. Oh no, man,
that guy was crazy, said my dad, referring to his
vice principal. If he wanted to punish us, he made
us eat lunch with him. It worked because nobody wanted to.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Be around him. He was so crazy, just really intense.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's when my grandma decided to defend him by saying
he was a good vice principal.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Killed a guy, but I loved him. What.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
After I got over the absurdity of that statement, I
insisted that she tell me everything Apparently she liked him
because he was really nice to the parent volunteers, like
the time he cleaned up after a school dance by
himself so my grandma could attend church on Sunday. Both
my grandparents liked that he ran a tight ship and
didn't suffer any quote idiots messing with his m O.
(05:06):
And this says, I think this speaks to how type
a my dad's side of the family is. A couple
years after my aunt Cindy's wild graduation, their beloved advice
principal got promoted to become the principal of a different
high school, where he clashed with the bureaucracy of.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The school district.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
One day, he walked out of a meeting with the
superintendent and calmly told the secretaries to call the police
because he had just shot the superintendent. What my grandparents said,
he did it because he quote couldn't handle working with
idiots and quote distress drove him crazy. Oh no, I
googled his name later, and my dad's old vice principal
is still in prison. During his incarceration, he got multiple
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theology degrees and married one of the teachers from the
school he'd been principal of I have no idea if
they started dating before or after he became a murderer.
Either way, I'm sure it's a wild story. Anyway, I
should get back to work now. Maybe later I'll rease
send the time. My sister kind of lived through the
plot of while you were Sleeping.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Stay sexy and don't shoot your boss, even if he's
an idiot CJ.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She her, Oh my god, CJ, you said while you
were sleeping, which is the Sandra Bullock Bill Pullman movie
from Christmas time. I was thinking of the Julia Roberts
movie with the abusive husband where she has to escape
sleeping with the enemy. Sleeping with the enemy, that's the
first thing I thought of.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I fucking love that movie. But while you are Sleeping
is someone's in a coma falls in love with a brother?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I think, right, yes, it's like Sandra Bullock sees Peter Gallagher.
He's super hot. She's like, I love that guy. He
drops on the subway platform where the l trained platform
where she works. Yeah, she goes to the hospital to
make sure he's okay, and the family assumes she's the
girlfriends so she just plays along with it. And she
loves the family so much. But then slowly but surely
she's like, I actually give it away, but it's just.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
She loves no woman.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Guys, you gotta watch it. And this is Sandra Bullock.
She was the love of all of our lives back then.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's a classic.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
She went from while you were sleeping to fucking practical magic.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It's just like the speed.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh my gosh, she was girl. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
So this one.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The subject line is my hometown murder was on Forensic Files.
Three minute read right, and then it just starts, yes,
you read that right. I also believe the story would
make a great Columbo movie, but I missed the boat
on that one. Five year listener, first time writer. Anyways,
love you both to Bits and Karen. I just want
to say that mister shows, Watch Us Have Sex is
(07:34):
just about my favorite sketch in the.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
History of comedy. Bravo.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Wow, you should have seen how furious my dad was
when saw that sketch.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You let him watch it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We were I think we were just watching the episode
and then that one came on. It wasn't like I
was in every sketch, so then I was like, I
really want them to see me performing and he's.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Like, what the hell are you doing down there?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And I was like, oh, I didn't think you'd take
it literally any Well, you're a Catholic. Shit, Yes, that's
all not allowed. Okay, we're back in the email. I'll
try to keep it brief, but this story has many
twists and turns. In nineteen sixty six, Dianne and Jean,
and I'm going to assume the name is pronounced kitle
k eid eo Ketel or Kitele, a newly separated couple
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with four kids, living one block from my current home
in Phoenix, Arizona. Diane had been at a nearby bar
one night with a man she was seeing. They said
good night, and she drove home, only to never be
seen again. Jeane moved back into the family home after
her disappearance and was quickly ruled out as a suspect
as he told police how promiscuous she had become since
(08:40):
their separation. Then it just says in all caps ugg Unfortunately,
the man she was with at the bar had died
of a heart attack the day after Diane went missing,
so he couldn't be questioned suspish, right, And then it
says unreal with an exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Flash forward four months and Jean had left his kids
sleeping at home to go to a nearby laundry mat.
A fire broke out in the house, killing two of.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
The four children.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
God, God, God.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The son Greg escaped through a window, while his younger sister,
Laurie was found inside, badly burned but alive. One of
her sister Wait this sounds familiar. One of her sisters
died on top of her trying to shield her from
the flames.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ah Jesus, and.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The other sister was found dead in her bed. A
horrible tragedy. The fire was ruled accidental as they found
a melted aluminum pot on the stove. Jean rebuilt the
house and raised the remaining two children there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Poor Laurie survived, only to endure an abusive life at
the hands of her father and brother.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh stop.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Flashed forward twenty seven years. In nineteen ninety three, Laurie,
now in her thirties, went to the Phoenix Police Department
to finally report a crime she witnessed as a child,
but was too scared of her father to do it sooner.
The night her mother disappeared, she and her sister had
witness Jane beating Diane to death. Then he dragged her
out by the pool and they watched as he dug
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her grave in the yard. At only five years old,
Laurie didn't understand what was happening and thought her mother
was asleep. The next day, Jean poured a concrete slab
over the grave. Now, in nineteen ninety three, Laurie was
able to show the police exactly where they would find
her mother's remains.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh my god, right.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
They used ground penetrating radar to find her skeleton with
a nylon wrapped around her neck and nineteen sixties women's clothing.
Fifty eight year old Jean was indicted for murder spent
the remaining ten years of his life in prison. We
take walks by the murder house and I think of
that poor lady and her children every single time. Stay
sexy and take a harder look at the spouse for
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crying out loud. Yeah, Katie, she her, I remember that
forensic This Forensic Files is so upsetting.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, that last part sounds really familiar with the concrete slab,
where it's like, you don't investigate a concrete slab that's
getting put in the backyard.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I guess, guess not. But yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Brave of the surviving daughter to do that. I mean,
that is fucking incredible in like such a testament. So
he probably started the fire too, right.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean, I think that's what we probably can assume,
although it could have been a horrible accident. Who knows, Like.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But then he had nothing to do with the heart attack,
because that is like why that's almost like good luck
for him, because they were like, oh, it must have
been that guy.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
If anyone knows more than the nineteen ninety three forensics
have told them to this point, it'd be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I'm sure we got a lot of Phoenix murderinos, right, Yeah,
they might know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Wow, good one.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, this is called a hot dog and almost certain death.
Hello Karen Georgia and all others affiliated.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I thought was gonna say afflicted.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was like, yeah, you could say that.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You could go at that, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I was listening to a mini episode.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I don't know which one, but hot dogs were yet
again the main subject.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Are we we don't know anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I started listening you guys in twenty twenty, and I've
always wanted to write in but I thought I had
no stories.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
My life is pretty regular, so no surprise there. While
listening to one.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Of you tell a story about a hot dog, it
finally clicked. I do have a story about that one
time I almost died hot dog in hand. The scene
eight year old me at my cousin's house, where my
mom was very skeptical of sending me. She had an
older set of twins that were always getting into trouble,
specifically my male cousin think miner's theft and harassment of
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the neighborhood children. Oh no, on this day, because they
were both going to be out, my mom wearily decided
to let me go. So me and my cousin, Melissa
and her friend all get ready to watch a movie,
and of course we went to make a snack. The
girls got popcorn ready and some honey buns from the cabinet.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I chose a hot dog. What's the fast forward?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The movie is on, the dog is inbun, and we
are in the living room. One of them, I'm not
sure who gets spooked by the shadowy figure standing outside
the window. Being the youngest, I thought they were just
messing with me. So when they told me to go
up to the window and look out. I wasn't scared
because I thought for sure this was a prank. I
get my eight year old self off the couch, hot
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dog in hand, and go check out the front window.
It's in that moment I'm staring face to face with
a man dressed head to toe in black with his
hood up. He starts yelling something. I turn around to
look at them, and just like in a movie, I
scream run. We all trip over each other and scramble
down the hallway to my cousin's room. One by one,
we file underneath the bed like Sardine's. It's at that
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moment I realized I still had the hot dog in
my hand. But before I could celebrate, the sound of
someone pounding on the bedroom window from outside filled my ears.
We all went silent as we slowly heard the window
slide open and someone propped themselves up. My heart was
beating so fast. I remember thinking, is this thing going
to come out of my chest? Next thing you feel
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is someone fall onto the bed from the window. I
see two feet on the floor and then two hands
on the floor. The man looks at my cousin, screams,
and then starts cracking up. It's at that moment that
my cousin Alan starts yelling at Alyssa, freaking out that
we didn't let him in the house.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's the bad boy twin brother cousin.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
He needs to get in it says.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Turns out he had gotten himself into a fight down
the street at the park and ran home to hide
from the people. Then this morning, when I was listening
to Karen tell a story about a hot dog, I
realized I have no idea what I did with that
hot dog, and I realized it was my cousin and
could finally catch my breath.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It's been under the bed all these days, right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They have since moved, and I wonder if when they
did they found the decrepit carcass of what was my
hot dog.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Those things don't mold, right, I don't think they can.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
They shouldn't, so SSDGM And if you're breaking into your house,
announce yourself so your little sister and cousins don't fear
sudden death, and also keep a tight hold on your
hot dog.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Love Kate.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's so funny to imagine like a little kid screaming
like for their life and hiding while holding a hot dog,
because it's like was she holding it like eating style,
whereas up to her mouth was it sideways?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's like a scared grip works for a hot dog,
so it's not like it's out of the question, like
keep hold of it, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
A scared grip is perfect for a hot dog.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That's right, may exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
That's why they have it every carnival.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
How do you eat a hot dog with a scared grip?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's gotta be scared, whether you're camping, whether you're scared
someone's just going to take it away from you.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You're a roller skating at the roller skating ring. Just
no casual grip on a hot dog, please.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
First of all, someone could snatch it out of your
hand and eat it themselves.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, or slap it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Out of your hand, which is the big thing that
my cousins and sister love to do, is just if
you're casually holding anything, slap it out of their hands.
That is.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I hate it, and it's the funniest thing I've ever
seen in my life. At the same time, it's always funny,
I know. I think I've seen your sister do that literally,
I bet you, I think I have.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You've seen her slap the hot dog out of my hand.
The subject line of this email is great Grandma beats
up intruder Okay, great Grandma nice Okay. It says hello,
All exactly right, folks. I've sent several stories, but fingers crossed,
you'll choose this as it's a favorite. My great grandma,
Grandma Marion, lived on her own till she was eighty
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eight years old. My nana and Papa, her son and
daughter in law, were always trying to convince her to
move in with them so they could look after her,
but she always insisted she was just fine on her own.
Grandma Marion lived in a duplex and down the street
was a boarding house. It was a pretty quiet neighborhood
for the most part. One day, she was in her
kitchen when she heard a noise. She walked into the
living room to see the front door open and heard
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noise coming from her bedroom. She looked inside and saw
a man crouch down and trying to unplug the phone
from the wall.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Jack, good God, that is just like immediate, sinister.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, this was an older house that had the heating
vents along the wall with beautiful metal scroll work covers
you know the type. Well, Unfortunately for this guy, Grandma
Marian was a badass bitch and wasn't about to wait
and see what his intentions were. She hurried over, grabbed
this man by the hair, and bashed his face multiple
times into that beautiful scroll work wall vent. Oh wait,
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because she had the advantage because he was bent down
looking at something else.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah. Oh, she just like fucking charge him. Oh yes, Marian.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
He jumped up, ran out and down the block. When
the police showed up, they followed the blood trail to
the boarding house and even write to his room. After this,
she finally agreed to move in with Nana and Pop Book.
My God, my siblings and I were very lucky to
have three wonderful grandparents in the same house, offering a
safe place for us whenever we needed, which sadly was often.
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Grandma Marian inspired our love of reading by reading to
us whenever we wanted, oh even if it was the
same book over and over. When her eyesight got too bad,
she would have us read to her. Thank you, ladies
for being such loving advocates of mental health and letting
us share in your jokes, stories and side stories. Stay
sexy and make sure you get a good grip on
the hair.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Rachel, Oh, Grandma Marian.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's so badass, because it's not like she walked in
and he was like rifling through her jewelry box. Unplugging
the phone is like premeditation to something else.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And she didn't even.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Fucking scream or think why she fucking That's what you
could apologize later if it turns out as a misunderstanding.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Right, you're in the house, it's too late.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's amazing. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
My last one's called shitbag sisters. It says hello, I
recently listened to a minisode where you asked for telephone stories,
and I have a bunch about my sister and I
from the days before caller I d side note. I
was trying to think of the name y'all use for irresponsible,
slash ass hoolish family members and had already typed shitbag
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sisters in the subject line before remembering trash dad, slash
trash mom, or in this case, trash sisters was the phrase.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I was looking for. Ship bag fits as well.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So it stays, it doesn't it It needs to be
like it's so perfectly more intense than normal for sisters.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Shipbag sisters, shipbag sister, it says.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Anyway, onto the stories. Much like many feral children left
to their own devices. Growing up in the late eighties
early nineties, my sister Jenny and I would often pick
up the phone and keep ourselves busy by making print
calls when we were bored in the days of the
telephone book. We would pick people at random and create
chaos with our calls.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Liked We totally fucking did this.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
One of our favorites was to call a person, tell
them we were contacting them because they had recently made
a purchase at venture and now defunct Midwest chain of
department stores where everyone's shop, and tell them they had
been chosen at random to receive a fifty dollars gift
certificate in a customer appreciation drawing. We even gave them
instractions about going to the service desk to pick it up.
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I can only imagine the confusion we created in the store.
I always hoped one day would be in the when
someone came to claim their quote prize. Sometimes we would
look for the couples listing in the phone book for
those who don't know. The white pages were residential listings
with name, address, and phone numbers. Each year, the phone
company would have you fill out how you wanted your
listing to appear, and couples would sometimes choose to list
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both the husband and wife's name. For this particular one,
we only called couples. If a man answered, we hung up.
If a woman answered, we asked for the man. If
she went to get the man on the phone, we
hung up. The exact situation we were looking for was
for the woman answering to take a message. The message
was quote, could you please let him know that ROXY
(20:39):
called and I left my bra in his car yesterday.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
No.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I sometimes wonder if we've destroyed any marriages, but I'm
sure we sounded like kids making print calls, complete with
team giggling in the background.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I hope so God, we worship bags.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's We also found a man named Kermit who we
would call it random rivet and hang up.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
The phone book. The power of the phone book, Oh, you.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Could just like it was like a diary of everyone.
You knew everything about people. Yes, you could just fuck
with them.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Did you ever look up your own name in the
phone book as a kid.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Oh yeah, oh my god, we're famous.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
We were enlisted because my mom worked to the psychiatric hospital,
so we couldn't be in that. We weren't allowed to
be in the phone book.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That makes absolute sense, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Our piece to resistance came when I got a phone
in my room at thirteen.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
For the record, it was accorded.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
See through phone.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I had this that had multicolor inner workings. It says
I know one of you had one. I fucking totally did.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I wanted that. My sister got a pink and white
phone that was one of the most gorgeous pieces of
technology I'd ever seen because it was not a normal
looking phone. It was kind of like wide based and
it was very stylized. But that was the phone that
I would have picked if they let me get a phone,
right that they didn't. It was like Laura got a phone,
and then we're like, wait a second, no one gets
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a phone.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, it's a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No one can handle having a phone because it's just chaotic.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think I wanted like at a fucking like County
Fair bingo game, which is like the best time of
my life.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
It was so eighties though, that is the eighties. Is like,
it's a clear phone that you can see the wires,
and we'll make the wires pink and you for me on, yes.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I says, I know one of you had them. Mine
was probably purchased that venture. I had two windows in
my room, one overlooking the backyard and one that had
a view into our neighbor's kitchen. The phone was by
the backyard window. So for this prank, one of us
would be the watcher and the other the dialer. We
waited and tell our neighbors, a mom and dad and
two kids a little younger than us, would sit down
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to eat dinner. The watcher would tell the dialer to call,
then watch as someone, usually the dad got up from
the dinner to answer the phone. You know where this
is fucking going, And then the watcher would say, waiting
for the exact moment the dad placed his hand on
the handset. Now the family would sit back down, zoom eating.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Since the dialer didn't get to see into the kitchen,
of course, we had to switch rolls and repeat the prank.
We did this prank on and off for years. Oh
my fucking god.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So total shitbag. This is shitbag behavior.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
This is true shipbag behavior.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
These are the kinds of stories I think of when
I hear people complain about kids today wasting time on
their phones and gaming systems, saying things like we didn't
have these electronics growing up. We made our own fun
and found ways to entertain ourselves. We sure did, Yeah,
shipbag entertainment that may have led to retail chaos, divorce, ribbts,
and cold dinners?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Si, what was is wrong with us?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Everything? Everyway?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We were abandoned? Why wouldn't they pay attention to it?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Welcome, stay, Sexigan, don't even bother trying to answer the
phone at dinner?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Jesse, she her, and thank you Jesse. Because now we need.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Shipbag entertainment stories, please shitbag entertainment, Like, what did you
do that?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Now? You're like you would fucking have throttled yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
For yes to pass the time. For example, Andy Winnington,
my next door neighbor, and I filling our mom's old
purses with shit and putting them in the middle of
the road and waiting for.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
A car to drive by.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Literal shit, literal cowshit, go out into a field filling
a normal looking purse. I would be like, Mom, do
you want this purse, and she's like, no, you can
have it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh, I was thinking it was like purses they were
currently using with all their stuff in it.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
No, no, no, no, it would be an old purse. You
get your mom to give you an old purse. Go
into the field, put a bunch of cowshit like sometimes
like dried up big old cowboys.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Fill it up.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Put it in the center of our street, Eastman Lane
that no one ever went down. It literally was a
car every two hours, and then we would climb a
tree and wait. Usually what would happen is the car
would stop, they'd pick up the purse. They'd drive about
fifty feet and then slam on the brakes and swear,
and sometimes they would reverse and get where the hell
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are you whatever?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh my god. Whole point was just for them to
stop and pick it up. That's amazing, and just be
near some shit.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And actually, now that I'm giving this example, it is
a literal example of ship bag behavior.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It is oh my god, it is shit bag ship
bag behavior.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's ship bag shit bag behavior. Yeah wow, well that's perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Please send those to my favorite murder at Gmail or
wherever you get ahold of us, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, yeah, exactly send us your vibes, but definitely send
us your stories. This is the place to admit what
a shipbag you were, because we all were. Get it
off your chest, yeah, or bust your sister all judgment.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm not gonna say no judgment, all judgment, but really
in a friendly way.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We'll just get it all out at one time.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, stay sexy and don't get murdered. Good by, Elvis.
Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
This has been an exactly Right production.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Our senior producers are all a Hunter, Kick and Molly Smith.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Our editor is Aristotle las Veda.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
This episode was mixed by Leona s Quolacci.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
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Speaker 3 (26:06):
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