July 7, 2025 • 27 mins
This week’s hometowns include a solved hometown cold case and a snake in the bathtub.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the minisode where.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We read you your stories? Do you like emails? Want
to hear six?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Did you just get off a long day of work
and you want to be read more emails?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You're like, you know what, I didn't get enough of
today in my nine to five emails?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Emails? That's right, Well, here we are, here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
That's why our tagline of the minisode is it could
have been an email, and it is here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I have a real hometown and it was a cold case.
Should I go first with a heavy hitter?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Kick it off?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Okay, good evening, lovely ladies at all. Well, technically, my
hometown is Fremont, California. It says happiest city in the US.
I didn't make that up. I spent well over a
decade in nearby Pleasanton. It's all the name implies. Also,
I didn't make that up. And this is all near
where you grew up.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
This is East Bay. Yeah, these are all the suburbs.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My roommate, Christy Ward, was from Fremont, Okay, so I
heard a lot about these places. I don't know anything
about them. I just heard what she told me about them.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, then, also, it says Anne Dublin, home of the
Federal Women's prison, recently shut down due to rampant sex
abuse by the staff. I really can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Jesus, I didn't hear about that. That's horrible, it says,
any who. I'm not saying that to you, any who.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Not a whole lot happens in this East Bay community. However,
In nineteen eighty four, fourteen year old Tina Fails was
murdered while walking home from Foothill High School in Pleasanton,
using a shortcut that ran under Interstate six' eighty. I
totally remember this forensic files. She was found in a
drainage culvert, having been stabbed forty four times I know fourteen.
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One odd piece of evidence was her purse, having been
tossed into a tree. There were several viable suspects, including
her mom's super creepy boyfriend, but nothing that panned out,
and the case went cold for decades. Fast forward to
two thousand and seven and a pregnant detective on light
duty started taking up cold cases. Pregnant detective is the
coolest fucking thing I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's called fargo baby.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's like America loves a pregnant detective slash cop slash
lady that's going to take care of business.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, it's such a like juxtaposition going on. We love it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yes, she sent the purse for DNA testing, which wasn't
available at the time of the murder, and it came
back to classmate Steven Carlson. Stephen had been bullied in
school and that day was beat up and thrown into
a dumpster, and in a fit of rage, took it
out on Tina when they crossed paths. Just tragedy, that
purse being tossed in the tree. Apparently Stephen tossed it
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up there to mark where her body was left, as
he could see the tree top from sitting on his rooftop.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I know, chilling.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The case was depicted on a twenty seventeen episode of
Cold Case Files. He was convicted in twenty fourteen, still
claiming innocence. However, five years later wrote three letters to
the family admitting guilt and feigning remorse. But the family
isn't buying it. Can't say I blame them. They waited
thirty years for justice. Yeah, thanks for making my long
est bake commute more bearable, and if you're feeling blue,
(03:27):
come visit us in Fremont, where apparently we are overjoyed
to be here. Fun fact, Fremont's Niles District was Hollywood
before there was a Hollywood. Shout out to Charlie Chaplin
and SNA Studios. Stay Sexy, Becky.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That is a classic hometown, and it also is the
hometown in the way of so many of these stories
are young women being just having their lives ripped away
because of some angry man or man boy. And it
is like the saddest part of a classic hometown is
just it's always that same story.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And we're not even safe walking during the day. We're
not even safe walking during the day. It's just that
bothers me so fucking much. Okay, self defense class, everybody. Yeah, OK,
here's a little nice turn.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
The subject line of this email is I'm the archivist
in Lucy nichols hometown. So like Lucy Nichols was a
Civil War nurse that I told you about that when
joined the regiment. Okay, so yes, it says Karen and Georgia.
I've been a fan of the podcast since your early
days and just about lost my mind when I heard
you say Lucy Nichols's name. I'm the archivist for the
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Floyd County Library, the public library system in New Albany, Indiana,
where Lucy Nichols lived after the Civil War and where
the twenty first Indiana Regiment was from. The museum where
Lucy's exhibit is on display is actually a branch of
our library system, formerly named the Carnegie Center for Art
and History, now named the Cultural Arts Center. Lucy's story
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is a cherished part of our city's history, and we're
currently working on making some much needed updates to the
thirteen year old exhibit to preserve the historic documents on
display and tell her story in a more inclusive way.
If any listeners are interested in learning more, please come
visit us. I'm grateful to you both in the exactly
right team for giving this important history a broader platform,
(05:19):
especially when libraries, archives, and museums are facing increasing pressure
to remove and suppress powerful stories like these. I mean,
you've got to be fucking kidding me. It's like they
already have been suppressed, right.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We can't. We're not doing it again.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We're not doubling down extreme funding cuts at the federal level.
And at the state level in Indiana are making it
more and more difficult for us to operate. But without
these critical institutions and people who run them, Lucy's story
and many others would have been lost to time. Stay
sexy and remember the black history is American history, Alison Kay.
(05:55):
And then it says, ps, if you're ever in the
Louisville area, I'd love to show you some the creepy
cool things in our archives, like our nineteenth century post
mortem photographs. Oh my god, from the eighteen hundredth I
can even give you a tour of the haunted old
Library attic. And then there's the little smiley face made
out of a.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Cold Oh my god, BRB getting a plane ticket.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean, here's the thing, though, this is what's beautiful.
Like if you live in Indiana, make a little weekend
trip so that you can go to the Floyd County Library, Yeah,
and go support see this stuff and support it or
figure out a way to become a part of it.
And like, that's how we make it so that nothing disappears.
That's how we fight it. It's just people start showing
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up and repping for all these places.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Okay, this one's called Well, I'm not going to red
you the title, Okay, no, I am, because it says
it immediately summer ghost story. You say, ooh great, Hi
Karen and Georgia animals exactly right, Crew and the memory
of Steven's mustache. Oh, I was listening to Minnesota four
forty one and you asked for more summertime ghost stories.
I had exactly that. My dad worked for the US
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Forest Service in the mountains of Montana. When I was
a kid. We lived on a compound which consisted of
the ranger station, fire station, and three houses available for
rent by employees. I mean, wow, to be a kid then,
you know, like that sounds incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Where it's like your backyard is the forest, yeah, your
free range.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It was very secluded and so far north it was
practically Canada. My parents had a huge vegetable garden and
my dad built a greenhouse for the tomatoes. The walls
were made of thick plastic nailed to a wooden frame.
When I was around five, I was playing with this
little boy named Thomas. My mom watched him during the workday. Now,
Thomas was about my age, but more shall we say, precocious.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Than I was. And then it says he was a
little shit.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He was always full of ideas, some good, some definitely
not good, and I was already a tiny people pleaser,
so I usually went along with every scheme he came
up with.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
HI always all of ideas is literally how I was
like described for my entire child. Got a big imagination
and a lot of ideas. What if we go on
the roof and throw pennies down at the cat like
it's always that shit.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I know they told us not to do this because
this would happen, But what if that didn't happen and
this happened.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We go down the store, we get a bunch of candy,
we put a nipple ideas.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It was the early nineties when children were free roaming,
so we were often outside with no supervision. One day,
we were playing in the greenhouse because it was a
very chilly morning and the greenhouse was nice and warm inside.
My dad had just put up the plastic for the
upcoming planting season and had left an old, rusty can
of leftover nails inside.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's on him, dude, that's on him.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't know what should we do with these things
that absolutely will give you tetanus if you come anywhere
near them.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
From a child level, yeah, Thomas wanted to know if
the nails were strong enough to poke holes in the
thick plastic. Turns out they sure were, and they made
a super satisfying noise when they poked through. I knew
we were doing something naughty, but I joined anyway. Together we
had a merry time poking probably hundreds of holes in
the plastic. My god, we drew on my neighbor's kitchen
(09:10):
walls once. My parents were rightly super mad when they
saw it, and I got in huge trouble. I don't
remember Thomas getting in trouble, but that wasn't weird to
me because he wasn't their kid. We got in trouble
several times that summer for doing things like sneaking down
to the lake without a grown up, but that moment
with the greenhouse is the clearest in my memory. When
I was about twelve, I randomly remembered Thomas as I
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was thinking about him. A lot of questions came up.
Where were his parents? How did he get to our
house every day? I could picture him clearly and remember
playing and talking with him, but I couldn't recall any
other details. So I asked my mom how we knew
Thomas and why she watched him every day. She had
no idea what I was talking about. What I started
describing him, trying to jog her memory, but she had
no idea who he was and insisted we never watched
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a little.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Boy named Thomas. Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
She told me I must have been a dream. That
didn't feel right, but I eventually conceded because what other
option was there. Plus, my dad always had his giant
video camera out recording every moment, and there was no
footage of a little boy named Thomas during that time.
I thought about it every few years. For the next
couple of decades, I could still picture Thomas so clearly,
but then I'd shrug and repeat what my mom said,
(10:20):
must have been a dream. It wasn't until a few
years ago that it hit me. Thomas always just appeared.
I never remembered him being dropped off or picked up.
We were always alone outside together. He never came inside
the house. No one else remembers him. And the detail
that made my blood turn to ice was that he
always wore the same old fashioned clothes, brown linen overalls
(10:42):
rolled up to his knees, a white linen shirt, a
straw hat, and his feet were bare.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He's dressed like Tom's way exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
He looked like a kid who had stepped out of
a Western movie set in the eighteen hundreds. I whipped
out my phone and sent a text to my mom.
Did a friend and I ever poke holes in dad's
green house when I was a kid? Her response gave
me chills. You did, but you are by yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Fuck.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I think I spent all summer playing with a goddamn
ghost child.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You did, you did? You actually did?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Thank you for giving me company as I draw or
clean my house. I'm an artist and author, and I
can't tell you how many times I paused while writing
my dark stories full of trauma and violence, and thought,
am I okay.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Then I'll listen to you to.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Tell stories about real life people doing real life things
that are far worse than anything I can imagine. And
I feel a lot better. Stay sexy and don't get
into mischief with a ghost child.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Kelsey, Kelsey, I have really bad news. We're not real either, Kelsey.
This whole time, Call your mom.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This was a dream.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This is a dream podcast. This whole thing is of
your imagination. Thank you for creating us, Kelsey, thank you,
We appreciate you. It's so funny. Okay, Well I'll go
with that theme okay, which is also partly the theme
of my last email and then your last time email,
because it says, well, I won't read you this subject line.
It just starts in all caps, omg ladies, with four
(12:07):
exclamation points. All still in all caps. I am going
to lose my mind for exclamation points. Then at normal writing,
it says, let me start with saying y'all are great
and have kept me company throughout college, getting married, and
being an elementary school teacher.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Hell yes, thank you for your service. Bles sure heart.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I just listened to episode four thirty eight Those Pants
that Hand truly one of our best titles of all
time and freaked out. I mean tapping my husband's leg,
pausing the episode to agree with your statements saying what
you were going to say. Just imagine a man watching
the Super Bowl or something like that, and then all caps. Anyways,
(12:46):
I am not only this whole thing is all caps.
I am not only from and grew up in Alexander City, Alabama,
but I grew up with both Willie Maxwell and Tom
Radney's grand kids.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Wow, so that was the murderous Reverence and his lawyer
and then later other people's lawyer the grandkids, Holy grand kids.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So it says but FYI, we refer to it as
Elex City. So you know, the the Murdoch murders, and
it was Elec Murdoch, even though it looked like it
said Alec. Yeah, it's like the way they pronounce it,
I think in the South or there so I should
have been saying Elec City.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Though we're not in the South, though, are we.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
During our senior year of high school, the TV show
Paranormal Witness did an episode on Willie Maxwell and his
former house. I think someone had moved into the house
and of course some shit got weird. Not entirely share
the details of it, but it did air on TV
and that has four exclamation points at the end as well. Exciting.
It is exciting. It was the talk of my high school.
(13:47):
Anytime a thing happens in your town. So in Pedaluma,
it's a very kind of traditional lot of Victorian houses
and stuff. So they when I was in high school,
they filmed Peggy's who Got Married just a way?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, it was one of my favorite movies as a kid.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, so Laura and her friend Adrian's at outside of
Adrian's house and watch Nicholas cage and watch them do
a whole exterior scene on the street outside of like
our church.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Essentially amazing. That was the rage.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Okay, so we're back into the email, and I'm almost
certain the grandson would have parties on his grandfather's old property.
We don't know which grandson she means, I don't think.
I think it's Willie Maxwell's. Yeah, because that's what she
was just talking about. Okay, I never went because even
as a stupid teenager, I knew not to fuck with
the paranormal.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And all caps exclamation point.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
My mom grew up in Alexander City and all caps
remembers all of this happening.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
She was fourteen when Harperley moved up to Elk City
and can still remember the rumors that create through our
small town. I know it was a long read. It
really wasn't, but I have thought about sending you an
email about Willy Maxwell for so long, but never had
the time or a researcher. And then Brenth the Season
says shout out to y'all's to put pen to paper
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or I guess fingers to keys. Anyways, stay sexy and
maybe don't go to a high school party that's had
a former alleged murderer's property and then it just is
dash Jay she her wow a local.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think I'd still go to the party. Would you
go to the party.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I would absolutely be at the party. Early.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I'd be like, do you need me to set up
the area where we do Yeagermeister shots.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'll do that.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Can I sage the Yaegermeister shots? I'd be caring.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I want to make it all okay for everybody, and
I think the way we do this is Jaegermeister.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Shots at a sands around yellow shots. My last one
is not going to tell you hello. MFM fam. Recently
on a minnisode, you asked for childhood snake stories. Okay,
it's called snake story. Fuck my twelve year old daughter
who listens religiously with me. Two young Christian Mark question
Mark said, mom, your moment has come. My fear of
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snakes is legendary. I had night terrors for years about
snakes and would wake up my entire household with my
psychotic shrieking. I once pushed my pregnant friend in front
of me when I saw a baby garter snake on
a hike, and her children have never let me live it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Down, nor should they. No, you girls, do you and
your baby take the hit for us.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The first thing my own children learn from me is
that if we see a snake, they better learn to
take care of themselves, because I will be all caps gone.
The root of the sphere is no mystery at all.
It began with the following story. It was nineteen ninety
three and I was seven years old, mining my own business.
Taking a bath, this seven year old mining own.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Business do yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I was enjoying the silky soft feeling of my hair
under the water after using finesse conditioner.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
When you said finesse conditioner, I could smell it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It was pink per lesson and it was the best
smelling shit. It smelled so good. I bet it was
made of toxicity.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I bet it was like lie. I bet it literally
was just like the worst thing you could put on yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Absolutely, but it smelled amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
When I heard a soft rustling sound on the bathroom floor,
I hope Vinzay isn't listening to it. I had my
head in the water so my ears were muffled, and
when I sat up I could hear it more clearly.
I picked over the side of the tub to see
a snake slithering on the floor a few feet away.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What the fuck? A real snake? This not a go snake?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
No, the scariest of all, Oh my god, when it
saw me, it did that freaking ass thing snakes do
where they can rear up and lift their body off
the ground like.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
A fucking cobra, like a king cobra. Yeah, yeah, fuck off.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It lifted its little head up and was waiting side
to side and hissing. It was just a garter snake
and probably not that big, but in my memory was
basically an anaconda.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I absolutely lost my shit, screaming and crying and all
out panicking because I was trapped and the door was
locked and I was naked, which somehow made it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Seem even more life threatening. It is. It is.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You're just totally like, what's the word, You're totally exposed vulnerables.
My mom started banging on the door, asking me what
the actual fuck was going on, and I couldn't even answer.
So when finally got one of those lock picking things
that you shove into the door knob to pop the lock,
you have butter and irons, right, just kick the door down.
Your child is screaming in a locked bathtub.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Who let this child locks the fucking bed? Okay on her? No,
there were no lock doors in my fucking house.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
No, you dare no, but also in our house, and
no accusations or anything. But they were all those kind
of modern like empty doors.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It was like a yeah, So the locks were truly
just like a slit that if you stuck a butter
knife in it and turned it, you could open the lock.
I feel some sisterly animosity.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh, there were still all kinds of lack of respect
for our locks, and my entire family rushed in to
help me.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Accumulation and the hair combined and absolutely altered my brain chemistry.
Of course, I have never been the same since. How
did the snake get into our second story bathroom, you ask?
My four year old brother thought it would be a
funny prank and slipped it under the door to scare me.
His little self was absolutely sobbing when he realized how
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much of a ship storm he had caused I almost
felt bad for him. PS, thank you for getting me
through nursing school during the pandemic with three small kids.
You truly provided my calming escape. And you inspired my
daughter to start martial arts when you talked about the
thirteen year old girl who broke her kidnappers.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Ankle with jiu jitsu. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You're helping me raise the next generation to be even
smarter and more badass. Thank you, stay sexy and make
your little brother pay for your therapy.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Shanna like banana, she her Shanna, that was it?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And also what garter snake rises up like that in
hisses like.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, the little boy had to go run into the
yard and find it first of all, like that is premeditated.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It was kind of obsessed with this when Nora was
growing up, where it's like, what's the thing that's going
to do this to her in some way the way
it all happened to all of us, Everyone has a
garter snake like experience.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, my nephew once closed his mic when he was
a little closed his little fingers and like a like
a closet thing, and I'm like, that's he's going to
remember that for the rest of his life and be
afraid of like these kind of doors.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And it's my fault. It was awful, he was screaming,
I mean so awful.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I have the same experience, only I closed Nora's fingers
into a drawer like that, and I like even saying
it makes me sick to myself, like the way it
did at the time, where it was just off and
it was like like an I know, drawer that we
couldn't get closed, and finally I got it done.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
She was holding up Sam.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was like a one of those like you know,
folding door like closets, and he just like, oh right
in the He couldn't talk yet, but he could all
he knew what words were, so he was just babbling
nonsense words.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Cry, oh my god, okay, let me he's I'll erase it.
I'll erase it for you right now as you all
let it. Finess original Finesse bottles. There we go, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But the actual shampoo, I think, if I'm not mistaken,
was pink when it came out.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Of that bottle. It's not good no matter what.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Those two Finesse bottles cost forty four dollars because it's
people It's basically like people are bidding.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
On them due to state sales or where it's at.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay, So here's my last one, and it says hometown
sharks are bad for business. So we're now, I think thematically,
really followed each other in this thing because we've gone
reptilian and now now we're going to the apex preddary.
You think snakes are bad, Yeah, let's talk about sharks. Okay,
And then it just says, ladies, where do I even begin?
Maybe back in twenty sixteen when I had binged cereal
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and needed something murdery to fill my void and BOI
did you deliver?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So yes? And we really got that timing right, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, we did, It says, so yes. That would make
me a Day one listener. Hey, hell yeah, yeah that said.
After hearing episode four forty three about the New Jersey
shark attacks, I knew it was time for my email
to shine. In parentheses, it says in to recend, hoping
this time it gets through. In the summer of two
thousand and six, my best friend and her family were
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on our weekly beach trip to the Gulf Coast locally
known as thirty A. It was the perfect summer day
with a slack tide. The ocean was clear blue without
a single wave, so we took our gas station neon
floats out to sea.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh my god, na, I'll be I'm bathing if you
need me, see you later.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Good luck on your plastic floats that could get you
really far, and then absolutely just pop and leave you there.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You look sexy and your death wish bye bye.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
The water was so perfect, in fact, that we kept
making jokes about how we could see the shadows of
our floats on the bottom of the seafloor until dot
I forgot, this is a shark, fuck right, my friend's dad,
And then in parentheses it says who was a jokester
ninety nine point nine percent of the time sternly said, girls,
stop moving now. We immediately pulled our limbs out of
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the water and peered over the edge of our floats.
So basically it's like a little floating bed thing. I
was thinking of the arm floaties, but actually like on
like a chaise lat what are those called? Yea, yeah, yeah,
I think yeah, just like it more of a chair
or a bed as opposed to just the individual's okay.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
So they have to pull their legs up and their
arms up. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It should also be mentioned that my friend's little sister
wasn't in a full length float, but rather in an
inner tube fully exposed.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Oh, it just looks like a delicious turtle to that shark, right,
that's what they say. That's why you pull your limbs in.
It looks like a fucking turtle. And it's like yum
crunchy on the outside.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Pistachio cream on the inside. Right, But it's not a turtle.
It's not okay.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
As we look down, a family of five hammer head
sharks are circling beneath us. I think hammerheads are okay,
though I know.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I was just thinking, like, at least it wasn't a
real shark, but I don't know anything same.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's like you wouldn't care. It's a prehistoric predator that
that's at the top of the food chain, and it
looks fucking insane, so insane the way their eyes are
way out to the side. I'm all right, mirror, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Crazy not to I shame you, hammerhead shark, but God,
get it together. The next few minutes would evolve for
the next ten million years. Please, what if it was
like a hammerhead jerk. But then their eyes are all
close together.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh nose, I just still had the hammerhead, but there
was no reason for that to Okay, stop.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It evolves into a Philip said. The next few minutes
were in slow motion. I remember looking to the shore
and seeing everyone pointing with one hand and covering their
mouths with the other, worst kind of pointing. Finally, after
what seems like an eternity, the shark's mosied on about
their business, and we frantically made our way back to shore,
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so they just had to sit there floating above.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Once we made it back, Steve, the cheer and umbrella
salesman made his way through the crowd, yelling whoo, those
manatees sure were friendly. No worries, folks, those weren't sharks,
just some friendly manatees. He then turned to us with
a wink and said, sharks are bad for business. Keep
it on the down low. No, hey, Steve, what's up, Steve?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Steve?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It's all on you. Hope your conscience is something.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Steve, have you seen the film Jaws, because that's you
are the villain, Mayor you're there villain.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
In the yep.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Keep let's keep those beaches open. Yeah, this summer time.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Okay, I think Molly just told me it's Jaws fiftieth an,
that's right, that's right, fiftieth yeah, perfect five. Oh to
this day, we are still scarred and never missed the
chance to reminisce when we're all together, stay sexy and
know the difference between sharks and manatees.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Sam, she heard? Oh, Sam, that was epic. Good one,
great one, good one. Love a shark story. Tell us
your scary ocean story or beach story.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
We love those, yes, perfect, like a scary summertime story. Yeah,
getting into that summertime vibe totally.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well that was fun.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
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Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the minisode where.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We read you your stories? Do you like emails? Want
to hear six?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Did you just get off a long day of work
and you want to be read more emails?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You're like, you know what, I didn't get enough of
today in my nine to five emails?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Emails? That's right, Well, here we are, here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
That's why our tagline of the minisode is it could
have been an email, and it is here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I have a real hometown and it was a cold case.
Should I go first with a heavy hitter?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Kick it off?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Okay, good evening, lovely ladies at all. Well, technically, my
hometown is Fremont, California. It says happiest city in the US.
I didn't make that up. I spent well over a
decade in nearby Pleasanton. It's all the name implies. Also,
I didn't make that up. And this is all near
where you grew up.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
This is East Bay. Yeah, these are all the suburbs.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My roommate, Christy Ward, was from Fremont, Okay, so I
heard a lot about these places. I don't know anything
about them. I just heard what she told me about them.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, then, also, it says Anne Dublin, home of the
Federal Women's prison, recently shut down due to rampant sex
abuse by the staff. I really can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Jesus, I didn't hear about that. That's horrible, it says,
any who. I'm not saying that to you, any who.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Not a whole lot happens in this East Bay community. However,
In nineteen eighty four, fourteen year old Tina Fails was
murdered while walking home from Foothill High School in Pleasanton,
using a shortcut that ran under Interstate six' eighty. I
totally remember this forensic files. She was found in a
drainage culvert, having been stabbed forty four times I know fourteen.
(02:02):
One odd piece of evidence was her purse, having been
tossed into a tree. There were several viable suspects, including
her mom's super creepy boyfriend, but nothing that panned out,
and the case went cold for decades. Fast forward to
two thousand and seven and a pregnant detective on light
duty started taking up cold cases. Pregnant detective is the
coolest fucking thing I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's called fargo baby.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's like America loves a pregnant detective slash cop slash
lady that's going to take care of business.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, it's such a like juxtaposition going on. We love it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yes, she sent the purse for DNA testing, which wasn't
available at the time of the murder, and it came
back to classmate Steven Carlson. Stephen had been bullied in
school and that day was beat up and thrown into
a dumpster, and in a fit of rage, took it
out on Tina when they crossed paths. Just tragedy, that
purse being tossed in the tree. Apparently Stephen tossed it
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up there to mark where her body was left, as
he could see the tree top from sitting on his rooftop.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I know, chilling.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The case was depicted on a twenty seventeen episode of
Cold Case Files. He was convicted in twenty fourteen, still
claiming innocence. However, five years later wrote three letters to
the family admitting guilt and feigning remorse. But the family
isn't buying it. Can't say I blame them. They waited
thirty years for justice. Yeah, thanks for making my long
est bake commute more bearable, and if you're feeling blue,
(03:27):
come visit us in Fremont, where apparently we are overjoyed
to be here. Fun fact, Fremont's Niles District was Hollywood
before there was a Hollywood. Shout out to Charlie Chaplin
and SNA Studios. Stay Sexy, Becky.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That is a classic hometown, and it also is the
hometown in the way of so many of these stories
are young women being just having their lives ripped away
because of some angry man or man boy. And it
is like the saddest part of a classic hometown is
just it's always that same story.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And we're not even safe walking during the day. We're
not even safe walking during the day. It's just that
bothers me so fucking much. Okay, self defense class, everybody. Yeah, OK,
here's a little nice turn.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
The subject line of this email is I'm the archivist
in Lucy nichols hometown. So like Lucy Nichols was a
Civil War nurse that I told you about that when
joined the regiment. Okay, so yes, it says Karen and Georgia.
I've been a fan of the podcast since your early
days and just about lost my mind when I heard
you say Lucy Nichols's name. I'm the archivist for the
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Floyd County Library, the public library system in New Albany, Indiana,
where Lucy Nichols lived after the Civil War and where
the twenty first Indiana Regiment was from. The museum where
Lucy's exhibit is on display is actually a branch of
our library system, formerly named the Carnegie Center for Art
and History, now named the Cultural Arts Center. Lucy's story
(04:56):
is a cherished part of our city's history, and we're
currently working on making some much needed updates to the
thirteen year old exhibit to preserve the historic documents on
display and tell her story in a more inclusive way.
If any listeners are interested in learning more, please come
visit us. I'm grateful to you both in the exactly
right team for giving this important history a broader platform,
(05:19):
especially when libraries, archives, and museums are facing increasing pressure
to remove and suppress powerful stories like these. I mean,
you've got to be fucking kidding me. It's like they
already have been suppressed, right.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We can't. We're not doing it again.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We're not doubling down extreme funding cuts at the federal level.
And at the state level in Indiana are making it
more and more difficult for us to operate. But without
these critical institutions and people who run them, Lucy's story
and many others would have been lost to time. Stay
sexy and remember the black history is American history, Alison Kay.
(05:55):
And then it says, ps, if you're ever in the
Louisville area, I'd love to show you some the creepy
cool things in our archives, like our nineteenth century post
mortem photographs. Oh my god, from the eighteen hundredth I
can even give you a tour of the haunted old
Library attic. And then there's the little smiley face made
out of a.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Cold Oh my god, BRB getting a plane ticket.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean, here's the thing, though, this is what's beautiful.
Like if you live in Indiana, make a little weekend
trip so that you can go to the Floyd County Library, Yeah,
and go support see this stuff and support it or
figure out a way to become a part of it.
And like, that's how we make it so that nothing disappears.
That's how we fight it. It's just people start showing
(06:39):
up and repping for all these places.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Okay, this one's called Well, I'm not going to red
you the title, Okay, no, I am, because it says
it immediately summer ghost story. You say, ooh great, Hi
Karen and Georgia animals exactly right, Crew and the memory
of Steven's mustache. Oh, I was listening to Minnesota four
forty one and you asked for more summertime ghost stories.
I had exactly that. My dad worked for the US
(07:06):
Forest Service in the mountains of Montana. When I was
a kid. We lived on a compound which consisted of
the ranger station, fire station, and three houses available for
rent by employees. I mean, wow, to be a kid then,
you know, like that sounds incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Where it's like your backyard is the forest, yeah, your
free range.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It was very secluded and so far north it was
practically Canada. My parents had a huge vegetable garden and
my dad built a greenhouse for the tomatoes. The walls
were made of thick plastic nailed to a wooden frame.
When I was around five, I was playing with this
little boy named Thomas. My mom watched him during the workday. Now,
Thomas was about my age, but more shall we say, precocious.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Than I was. And then it says he was a
little shit.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He was always full of ideas, some good, some definitely
not good, and I was already a tiny people pleaser,
so I usually went along with every scheme he came
up with.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
HI always all of ideas is literally how I was
like described for my entire child. Got a big imagination
and a lot of ideas. What if we go on
the roof and throw pennies down at the cat like
it's always that shit.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I know they told us not to do this because
this would happen, But what if that didn't happen and
this happened.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We go down the store, we get a bunch of candy,
we put a nipple ideas.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It was the early nineties when children were free roaming,
so we were often outside with no supervision. One day,
we were playing in the greenhouse because it was a
very chilly morning and the greenhouse was nice and warm inside.
My dad had just put up the plastic for the
upcoming planting season and had left an old, rusty can
of leftover nails inside.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's on him, dude, that's on him.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't know what should we do with these things
that absolutely will give you tetanus if you come anywhere
near them.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
From a child level, yeah, Thomas wanted to know if
the nails were strong enough to poke holes in the
thick plastic. Turns out they sure were, and they made
a super satisfying noise when they poked through. I knew
we were doing something naughty, but I joined anyway. Together we
had a merry time poking probably hundreds of holes in
the plastic. My god, we drew on my neighbor's kitchen
(09:10):
walls once. My parents were rightly super mad when they
saw it, and I got in huge trouble. I don't
remember Thomas getting in trouble, but that wasn't weird to
me because he wasn't their kid. We got in trouble
several times that summer for doing things like sneaking down
to the lake without a grown up, but that moment
with the greenhouse is the clearest in my memory. When
I was about twelve, I randomly remembered Thomas as I
(09:33):
was thinking about him. A lot of questions came up.
Where were his parents? How did he get to our
house every day? I could picture him clearly and remember
playing and talking with him, but I couldn't recall any
other details. So I asked my mom how we knew
Thomas and why she watched him every day. She had
no idea what I was talking about. What I started
describing him, trying to jog her memory, but she had
no idea who he was and insisted we never watched
(09:55):
a little.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Boy named Thomas. Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
She told me I must have been a dream. That
didn't feel right, but I eventually conceded because what other
option was there. Plus, my dad always had his giant
video camera out recording every moment, and there was no
footage of a little boy named Thomas during that time.
I thought about it every few years. For the next
couple of decades, I could still picture Thomas so clearly,
but then I'd shrug and repeat what my mom said,
(10:20):
must have been a dream. It wasn't until a few
years ago that it hit me. Thomas always just appeared.
I never remembered him being dropped off or picked up.
We were always alone outside together. He never came inside
the house. No one else remembers him. And the detail
that made my blood turn to ice was that he
always wore the same old fashioned clothes, brown linen overalls
(10:42):
rolled up to his knees, a white linen shirt, a
straw hat, and his feet were bare.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He's dressed like Tom's way exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
He looked like a kid who had stepped out of
a Western movie set in the eighteen hundreds. I whipped
out my phone and sent a text to my mom.
Did a friend and I ever poke holes in dad's
green house when I was a kid? Her response gave
me chills. You did, but you are by yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Fuck.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I think I spent all summer playing with a goddamn
ghost child.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You did, you did? You actually did?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Thank you for giving me company as I draw or
clean my house. I'm an artist and author, and I
can't tell you how many times I paused while writing
my dark stories full of trauma and violence, and thought,
am I okay.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Then I'll listen to you to.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Tell stories about real life people doing real life things
that are far worse than anything I can imagine. And
I feel a lot better. Stay sexy and don't get
into mischief with a ghost child.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Kelsey, Kelsey, I have really bad news. We're not real either, Kelsey.
This whole time, Call your mom.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This was a dream.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This is a dream podcast. This whole thing is of
your imagination. Thank you for creating us, Kelsey, thank you,
We appreciate you. It's so funny. Okay, Well I'll go
with that theme okay, which is also partly the theme
of my last email and then your last time email,
because it says, well, I won't read you this subject line.
It just starts in all caps, omg ladies, with four
(12:07):
exclamation points. All still in all caps. I am going
to lose my mind for exclamation points. Then at normal writing,
it says, let me start with saying y'all are great
and have kept me company throughout college, getting married, and
being an elementary school teacher.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Hell yes, thank you for your service. Bles sure heart.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I just listened to episode four thirty eight Those Pants
that Hand truly one of our best titles of all
time and freaked out. I mean tapping my husband's leg,
pausing the episode to agree with your statements saying what
you were going to say. Just imagine a man watching
the Super Bowl or something like that, and then all caps. Anyways,
(12:46):
I am not only this whole thing is all caps.
I am not only from and grew up in Alexander City, Alabama,
but I grew up with both Willie Maxwell and Tom
Radney's grand kids.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Wow, so that was the murderous Reverence and his lawyer
and then later other people's lawyer the grandkids, Holy grand kids.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So it says but FYI, we refer to it as
Elex City. So you know, the the Murdoch murders, and
it was Elec Murdoch, even though it looked like it
said Alec. Yeah, it's like the way they pronounce it,
I think in the South or there so I should
have been saying Elec City.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Though we're not in the South, though, are we.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
During our senior year of high school, the TV show
Paranormal Witness did an episode on Willie Maxwell and his
former house. I think someone had moved into the house
and of course some shit got weird. Not entirely share
the details of it, but it did air on TV
and that has four exclamation points at the end as well. Exciting.
It is exciting. It was the talk of my high school.
(13:47):
Anytime a thing happens in your town. So in Pedaluma,
it's a very kind of traditional lot of Victorian houses
and stuff. So they when I was in high school,
they filmed Peggy's who Got Married just a way?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, it was one of my favorite movies as a kid.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, so Laura and her friend Adrian's at outside of
Adrian's house and watch Nicholas cage and watch them do
a whole exterior scene on the street outside of like
our church.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Essentially amazing. That was the rage.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Okay, so we're back into the email, and I'm almost
certain the grandson would have parties on his grandfather's old property.
We don't know which grandson she means, I don't think.
I think it's Willie Maxwell's. Yeah, because that's what she
was just talking about. Okay, I never went because even
as a stupid teenager, I knew not to fuck with
the paranormal.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And all caps exclamation point.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
My mom grew up in Alexander City and all caps
remembers all of this happening.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
She was fourteen when Harperley moved up to Elk City
and can still remember the rumors that create through our
small town. I know it was a long read. It
really wasn't, but I have thought about sending you an
email about Willy Maxwell for so long, but never had
the time or a researcher. And then Brenth the Season
says shout out to y'all's to put pen to paper
(15:07):
or I guess fingers to keys. Anyways, stay sexy and
maybe don't go to a high school party that's had
a former alleged murderer's property and then it just is
dash Jay she her wow a local.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think I'd still go to the party. Would you
go to the party.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I would absolutely be at the party. Early.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I'd be like, do you need me to set up
the area where we do Yeagermeister shots.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'll do that.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Can I sage the Yaegermeister shots? I'd be caring.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I want to make it all okay for everybody, and
I think the way we do this is Jaegermeister.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Shots at a sands around yellow shots. My last one
is not going to tell you hello. MFM fam. Recently
on a minnisode, you asked for childhood snake stories. Okay,
it's called snake story. Fuck my twelve year old daughter
who listens religiously with me. Two young Christian Mark question
Mark said, mom, your moment has come. My fear of
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snakes is legendary. I had night terrors for years about
snakes and would wake up my entire household with my
psychotic shrieking. I once pushed my pregnant friend in front
of me when I saw a baby garter snake on
a hike, and her children have never let me live it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Down, nor should they. No, you girls, do you and
your baby take the hit for us.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The first thing my own children learn from me is
that if we see a snake, they better learn to
take care of themselves, because I will be all caps gone.
The root of the sphere is no mystery at all.
It began with the following story. It was nineteen ninety
three and I was seven years old, mining my own business.
Taking a bath, this seven year old mining own.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Business do yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I was enjoying the silky soft feeling of my hair
under the water after using finesse conditioner.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
When you said finesse conditioner, I could smell it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It was pink per lesson and it was the best
smelling shit. It smelled so good. I bet it was
made of toxicity.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I bet it was like lie. I bet it literally
was just like the worst thing you could put on yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Absolutely, but it smelled amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
When I heard a soft rustling sound on the bathroom floor,
I hope Vinzay isn't listening to it. I had my
head in the water so my ears were muffled, and
when I sat up I could hear it more clearly.
I picked over the side of the tub to see
a snake slithering on the floor a few feet away.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What the fuck? A real snake? This not a go snake?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
No, the scariest of all, Oh my god, when it
saw me, it did that freaking ass thing snakes do
where they can rear up and lift their body off
the ground like.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
A fucking cobra, like a king cobra. Yeah, yeah, fuck off.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It lifted its little head up and was waiting side
to side and hissing. It was just a garter snake
and probably not that big, but in my memory was
basically an anaconda.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I absolutely lost my shit, screaming and crying and all
out panicking because I was trapped and the door was
locked and I was naked, which somehow made it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Seem even more life threatening. It is. It is.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You're just totally like, what's the word, You're totally exposed vulnerables.
My mom started banging on the door, asking me what
the actual fuck was going on, and I couldn't even answer.
So when finally got one of those lock picking things
that you shove into the door knob to pop the lock,
you have butter and irons, right, just kick the door down.
Your child is screaming in a locked bathtub.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Who let this child locks the fucking bed? Okay on her? No,
there were no lock doors in my fucking house.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
No, you dare no, but also in our house, and
no accusations or anything. But they were all those kind
of modern like empty doors.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It was like a yeah, So the locks were truly
just like a slit that if you stuck a butter
knife in it and turned it, you could open the lock.
I feel some sisterly animosity.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh, there were still all kinds of lack of respect
for our locks, and my entire family rushed in to
help me.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Accumulation and the hair combined and absolutely altered my brain chemistry.
Of course, I have never been the same since. How
did the snake get into our second story bathroom, you ask?
My four year old brother thought it would be a
funny prank and slipped it under the door to scare me.
His little self was absolutely sobbing when he realized how
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much of a ship storm he had caused I almost
felt bad for him. PS, thank you for getting me
through nursing school during the pandemic with three small kids.
You truly provided my calming escape. And you inspired my
daughter to start martial arts when you talked about the
thirteen year old girl who broke her kidnappers.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Ankle with jiu jitsu. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You're helping me raise the next generation to be even
smarter and more badass. Thank you, stay sexy and make
your little brother pay for your therapy.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Shanna like banana, she her Shanna, that was it?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And also what garter snake rises up like that in
hisses like.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, the little boy had to go run into the
yard and find it first of all, like that is premeditated.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It was kind of obsessed with this when Nora was
growing up, where it's like, what's the thing that's going
to do this to her in some way the way
it all happened to all of us, Everyone has a
garter snake like experience.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, my nephew once closed his mic when he was
a little closed his little fingers and like a like
a closet thing, and I'm like, that's he's going to
remember that for the rest of his life and be
afraid of like these kind of doors.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And it's my fault. It was awful, he was screaming,
I mean so awful.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I have the same experience, only I closed Nora's fingers
into a drawer like that, and I like even saying
it makes me sick to myself, like the way it
did at the time, where it was just off and
it was like like an I know, drawer that we
couldn't get closed, and finally I got it done.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
She was holding up Sam.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was like a one of those like you know,
folding door like closets, and he just like, oh right
in the He couldn't talk yet, but he could all
he knew what words were, so he was just babbling
nonsense words.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Cry, oh my god, okay, let me he's I'll erase it.
I'll erase it for you right now as you all
let it. Finess original Finesse bottles. There we go, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But the actual shampoo, I think, if I'm not mistaken,
was pink when it came out.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Of that bottle. It's not good no matter what.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Those two Finesse bottles cost forty four dollars because it's
people It's basically like people are bidding.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
On them due to state sales or where it's at.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay, So here's my last one, and it says hometown
sharks are bad for business. So we're now, I think thematically,
really followed each other in this thing because we've gone
reptilian and now now we're going to the apex preddary.
You think snakes are bad, Yeah, let's talk about sharks. Okay,
And then it just says, ladies, where do I even begin?
Maybe back in twenty sixteen when I had binged cereal
(21:45):
and needed something murdery to fill my void and BOI
did you deliver?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So yes? And we really got that timing right, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, we did, It says, so yes. That would make
me a Day one listener. Hey, hell yeah, yeah that said.
After hearing episode four forty three about the New Jersey
shark attacks, I knew it was time for my email
to shine. In parentheses, it says in to recend, hoping
this time it gets through. In the summer of two
thousand and six, my best friend and her family were
(22:15):
on our weekly beach trip to the Gulf Coast locally
known as thirty A. It was the perfect summer day
with a slack tide. The ocean was clear blue without
a single wave, so we took our gas station neon
floats out to sea.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh my god, na, I'll be I'm bathing if you
need me, see you later.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Good luck on your plastic floats that could get you
really far, and then absolutely just pop and leave you there.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You look sexy and your death wish bye bye.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
The water was so perfect, in fact, that we kept
making jokes about how we could see the shadows of
our floats on the bottom of the seafloor until dot
I forgot, this is a shark, fuck right, my friend's dad,
And then in parentheses it says who was a jokester
ninety nine point nine percent of the time sternly said, girls,
stop moving now. We immediately pulled our limbs out of
(23:07):
the water and peered over the edge of our floats.
So basically it's like a little floating bed thing. I
was thinking of the arm floaties, but actually like on
like a chaise lat what are those called? Yea, yeah, yeah,
I think yeah, just like it more of a chair
or a bed as opposed to just the individual's okay.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
So they have to pull their legs up and their
arms up. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It should also be mentioned that my friend's little sister
wasn't in a full length float, but rather in an
inner tube fully exposed.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Oh, it just looks like a delicious turtle to that shark, right,
that's what they say. That's why you pull your limbs in.
It looks like a fucking turtle. And it's like yum
crunchy on the outside.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Pistachio cream on the inside. Right, But it's not a turtle.
It's not okay.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
As we look down, a family of five hammer head
sharks are circling beneath us. I think hammerheads are okay,
though I know.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I was just thinking, like, at least it wasn't a
real shark, but I don't know anything same.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's like you wouldn't care. It's a prehistoric predator that
that's at the top of the food chain, and it
looks fucking insane, so insane the way their eyes are
way out to the side. I'm all right, mirror, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Crazy not to I shame you, hammerhead shark, but God,
get it together. The next few minutes would evolve for
the next ten million years. Please, what if it was
like a hammerhead jerk. But then their eyes are all
close together.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh nose, I just still had the hammerhead, but there
was no reason for that to Okay, stop.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It evolves into a Philip said. The next few minutes
were in slow motion. I remember looking to the shore
and seeing everyone pointing with one hand and covering their
mouths with the other, worst kind of pointing. Finally, after
what seems like an eternity, the shark's mosied on about
their business, and we frantically made our way back to shore,
(25:02):
so they just had to sit there floating above.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Once we made it back, Steve, the cheer and umbrella
salesman made his way through the crowd, yelling whoo, those
manatees sure were friendly. No worries, folks, those weren't sharks,
just some friendly manatees. He then turned to us with
a wink and said, sharks are bad for business. Keep
it on the down low. No, hey, Steve, what's up, Steve?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Steve?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It's all on you. Hope your conscience is something.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Steve, have you seen the film Jaws, because that's you
are the villain, Mayor you're there villain.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
In the yep.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Keep let's keep those beaches open. Yeah, this summer time.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Okay, I think Molly just told me it's Jaws fiftieth an,
that's right, that's right, fiftieth yeah, perfect five. Oh to
this day, we are still scarred and never missed the
chance to reminisce when we're all together, stay sexy and
know the difference between sharks and manatees.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Sam, she heard? Oh, Sam, that was epic. Good one,
great one, good one. Love a shark story. Tell us
your scary ocean story or beach story.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
We love those, yes, perfect, like a scary summertime story. Yeah,
getting into that summertime vibe totally.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well that was fun.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Hey you guys, if you like these stories and you
want more of them, guess what, go to the fan cult.
There are like hundreds of episodes of mini minisodes where
we each read one email per episode. So if you're
bored and you want to check that out, go to
my favorite murder dot com and join the fan cult.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, thank you for listening. We love you. We do
say sexy and don't get murdered. Good Bye, Elvis. Do
you want a cookie? This has been an exactly right production.
Our senior producers are all one Hunter Keck and Molly Smith.
(26:54):
Our editor is Aristotle las Veda. This episode was mixed
by Leonis Kuilacci.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
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Speaker 2 (27:01):
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Speaker 1 (27:04):
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Speaker 2 (27:08):
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