July 21, 2025 • 27 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Nay, Hello and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm my favorite Murder the minisode we read you your stories,
you go first. Okay, this is about a summer job
at a cemetery. Hi, Karen and Georgia. Day one listener
here since twenty sixteen and first time writing you to
tell you my hometown murder. I grew up in a
small town in southwestern Wyoming. Yes, all towns in Wyoming
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are small.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
There's no towns in Woming.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
In my late teens, I worked at the cemetery for
a summer job for my first two years of college
in the late nineties early two thousands. I worked on
the grounds crew, mostly mowing and repairing sprinkler systems. The
job was relatively mundane until the FBI came to exhume
two bodies one day while I was working.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I mean, that's for high school.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Did they say college?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
College? Yeah, that's sick, A big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah. Rewind to nineteen ninety six when the Sun will
call him. Joe, of two school teachers in the same town,
lost his son and wife in a tragic accident. The
family was on a fun day trip near a lake
in the High Plains. They were overlooking a two hundred
foot cliff, and when Joe went to his car to
get a soda, his wife and son fell to their
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deaths off the two hundred foot cliff. It was a
horrible accident, and the whole small town rallied around Joe
to support him. Fast forward to nineteen ninety nine, when
Joe is arrested for hiring a hit man to kill
his school teacher parents. The hit man was Joe's childhood
friend and the local small town drug dealer, Jesus fucking Christ. However,
this drug dealer has morals, so after Joe asked him
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to murder his parents, he reported it to the police
and the FBI began listening in on their phone calls.
It's a small town in Wyoming, I mean this would
be crazy in La.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
In any It's everywhere. It's like, it's to the person.
It's not the place where you are. Yeah, someone gets
a little idea, this is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Joe eventually took a plea bargain to serve ten years
in prison for conspiracy to commit murder federal charges. However,
small town gossip started around the possibility that maybe his
wife and sons deaths were not an accident. The drug
dealer hitman reported to the FBI that Joe had asked
him to kill his wife and son about a month
before their quote accident. In two thousand, while I was
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working at the cemetery, the FBI came and exhumed the
bodies of his wife and son. In two thousand and one,
Joe was charged with the murders of his wife and son.
The key witnesses were the drug dealer hitman and a
young woman. The young woman was thirteen years old when
she met a then twenty three year old married Joe,
and they started having an affair in nineteen ninety six.
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She's thirteen. He told her that he wanted to get
out of his marriage, but didn't want to get a
divorce because he didn't want to have to pay child support.
He used to bring her on dates to the cliff
that he would eventually throw his wifefe and.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Sign off of This man is sick.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
This is so fucked up.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's so bad.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I can't believe we haven't heard of this. Also, like
what did they find from the exhumation, because like that
seems like you really wouldn't find much, But I.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Guess or maybe they were drugged and because they didn't fall.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right or bruises that happened beforehand, I don't know. Joe
was eventually convicted of two counts of first degree murder
and the deaths of his wife and child, two counts
of soliciting their murders, and two counts of soliciting his parents' murders,
and was sentenced to six life sentences. Thank god, you
didn't just get those ten years.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
What about statutory rape for dating a thirteen year old?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh? Can we do that too, lord? Craziest part. Even
after hearing the FBI recorded conversation in Joe's own voice
asking someone to murder his parents, his parents still supported
him and did not believe he had tried to hire
someone to kill them. You just that's like, you can't, no,
you can't go past that. They also supported him through
the murder trial of his wife and son. Stay sexy
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and don't hire the local small town drug dealer as
a hitman.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
CPA she her Shannon was at the core of everything
happening in that tiny Wyoming town. Yeah, I mean, good God.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
At the cemetery, Oh my lord.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Also that kind of thing where what a fascinating thing
it would be to be like, here's the tragedy that
everyone thought was a tragedy and you've held terrible about
for thirty years. Yeah, and then actually the last person
in the world that deserves your sympathy.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Or if you hadn't then become even more greedy and
tried to kill your own parents, you would have gotten
away with it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Forever takes all kids.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Okay, we'll do similar. This is a crime based one
as well. This object line is superhero great great grandparents.
So it says, high folks, greetings from Ireland. This might
be long, so for Jesus sake, let's get into it. Karen,
this is your time to shine. Get your accent out.
It's just like I can do that when it's me
talking to you. Yeah, when it's someone from Ireland. No thanks.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Just think of that guy who makes those videos. It's
his name. I love him. Is it Sean Jesus fucking Christ.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The I'm delicious guy, Yes, blanking, I'm his number one fan.
He's also coming to America. At some point I saw that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So there's so many people tagged me where I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Got Yeah, this is Christ, don't do it? Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So My great great grandfather, Peter O'Carroll was a locksmith
in Dublin during the Irish War of Independence. He was
also the father of several active IRA members, including my
great grandfather Michael O'Carroll. On October sixteenth, nineteen twenty, Peter
was shot and killed outside his shop on Manor Street.
A note was pinned to his chest that said trader,
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so that those who found him would believe that he
had been a trader to the Irish cause. For decades,
our family and wider community believed that he had been
murdered by the Black and Tans or the British forces
in an act of random brutality. Years later, during an
episode of Who Do You Think You Are? Which is
that DNA family trees type of show, my cousin Kimmi
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and Brendan O'Carroll discovered the truth. Peter's death wasn't random
at all. British forces had given him an ultimatum either
turn in his IRA sons or face the consequences. When
he refused, he was executed by Joscelyn Lee Hardy, a
British intelligence officer infamous for his ruthlessness.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Holy shit.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The revelation was both shocking and clarifying for our family.
It painted a clearer picture of Peter not just as
a victim, but as a man who knowingly stood by
his beliefs and protected his children in a time of
brutal police violence. Wow, he just was like kill me
then totally. And then they fucking pin Trader on him
so that they think he's like an inside.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And its generations. Then, like the Irish thing is like,
it doesn't matter how far removed you are, You're the
Trader family, right. What was the TV show? Thought? That
was so fucking good?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Say Nothing, Say No.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh yeah, the book Say Nothing, but the TV series
was incredible as well.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Tell no One, Say Nothing, Say Nothing. As it happens.
At the time, my great grandfather and his brothers were
being hidden by the Capuchin monks in a church in Dublin,
the same church my grandmother and father would be laid
to rest in much later. I say, I'm pagan but
Catholic a la carte from my upbringing, but I thank
the deities every day that my great grandfather was given
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refuge so that I may know my grandmother and enjoy
my father. It seems so very small, but in times
of adversity. I rest my intuition in my ancestors. My father,
great grandson of Peter O'Carroll, died very suddenly in his fifties.
From the time I was very small, my father always
said that those who go before us never truly leave us.
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I was barely twenty one when my father died. I'm
in my thirties now. Whenever I say, Dad, I need
you now, the issue just resolves itself. Oh, thanks for
letting me share, Stay sexy, Trust your ancestors, and don't
get murdered. All the best ladies to you and yours always.
E Wow, that's epic. Yeah thing, make sure you watch
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that TV show. Yeah, I mean that's incredible. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's so tragic that, like that's the choice you had
to make back then, ye, which is so unnecessary because
you can't take over not country.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But this sacrifices that people make in the day to
day that we'll never hear about. It's such a cool
thing to be able to tell that story where it's
like that O Carol is one of many.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
There's so many of those stories out there.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, totally who people are just were like, well, it's
for the betterment of my children.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Right, amazing, This is embarrassing, but must be done. This
one's called a fart machine. Saved my family. Oh okay,
so it's kind of the same, you know, thematic like
what is this show? Okay? Greetings Karen, Georgia and pets,
longtime listeners, even longer time sisters, first time writing in together.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
They're sharing the same chair, each one their hand eye
and they're fighting.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
They're absolutely pulling each other's hair. Here we go to
set the scene. We grew up in Little Rock, Arkansas,
and while it was great, it was pretty easy to
run out of things to do in town. So one
spring day in the early two thousands, our parents packed
up the Honda minivan with us and our brother and
took us on a day trip an hour's drive south
to the town of Hot Springs. After parking, we began
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walking down the main street toward a cafe for a
bite to eat. The three of us kids and my
mom were a little ahead of my dad, passing antique stores,
ice cream parlors, and souvenir shops when my dad spotted
something in the window of a toy store and called
us back to come look. As we peeked through the glass,
we see what my dad is staring at. A remote
controlled fart machine.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Dad stopped carrying long tracks.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, in case you're not familiar, a remote controlled fart
machine allows a prankster to hide the device in a
couch or under a chair, push a button on the
remote from afar. I mean, this is like a high
tech whippie cushion.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
No one he needs this explanation in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And let one rip on an unsuspecting victim by emitting
a fart noise?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And how is that battery operated? Or do you plug
it into the wall?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Now you have to charge it. This one, in particular,
had a variety of different farts to choose from burying
in length and disgusting. This for my dad, as the
youngest of eight kids growing up in the sixties, and
this was something he could have only dreamed of.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
True. As my dad and little brother stared in admiration,
my mom, myself and sister waited impatiently while rolling our eyes.
After about thirty seconds, we convinced the boys to move on.
At the exact second we were dragging them away, a
car suddenly veered off the main street onto the sidewalk
and smashed straight into a storefront only a few steps
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in front of us.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
The fart machine saved the family.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, but it gets that could be enough, but it
gets weirter. Okay. From that moment, chaos ensued. Shattered glass
flew everywhere, People were screaming to call nine one one,
and others went to check on the driver and the
people stuck in the store. At one point, a woman
in the store thought her baby was trapped under the car.
Fuck unharmed by the crash. My siblings and I watched
and shocked from the sidewalk. Sometime during the mayhem, as
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my mom was on the phone with the police and
my dad and others were checking that no one was
under the car, I looked up and noticed that a
man was now running away from the scene of the crash,
carrying my three year old brother over his shoulder. No
what I know. I panicked and screamed, he has my brother,
which caught the attention of bystanderds and my parents, who
hadn't noticed that their youngest child was being abducted. The
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man stopped, walked back and put my brother down, and
proudly exclaimed to my son parents, I saved him. The
man then took the opportunity to request compensation for his
quote heroic efforts picked him up and was like running
out of the way the car, but the car had
already crashed.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, let's talk about compensation.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Karen just put up two knuckle sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, you can have these two sandwiches. And then we
got this whole crowd would like to seriously, I mean, oh,
fucking where's that baby?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Okay, go ahead, baby's fine, the baby's fine. Okay, there's
no baby under the cook. My dad, in shock and
wanting to end this interaction, handed him a twenty dollars
bill and grabbed my brother, effectively paying his ransom.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Ye fuck that guy. Chaos monster, chaos.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
All in all, it was a freak accident and luckily
no one had any major injuries. My brother doesn't even
remember getting kidnapped or that my dad thought he was
only worth twenty dollars. That's a really good point that
he did, but he is still upset that he lost
his beloved green power Ranger toy at some point during
it all. But had we not stopped to see the
fart machine, our entire family would have been in the
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exact spot where the car came speeding onto the sidewalk.
Stay sexy, Ande always take time to stop and smell
the fart machines. That was really good, Alison and Caroline, so.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Sister team, Yeah, that was great. Guys, as two sisters,
you did an amazing job with that. One of you
did a little bit better than the other.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
We're not going to tell you.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We won't say how. Do you know what's crazy? Is
that actually happened Me and my sister. We were at
my grandparents' house. They lived in Sonoma. We lived in Pedalomas,
connected by Highway twelve, where every ten or so years
high school students are killed because it's a windy back
road with almost no lighting. And my mom was like,
we're leaving, put your shoes on. But both me and
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my sister were taking a really long time because Mash
was on and we wanted to see the ending, and
so we babe.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's just what it's all we had. It's all we
had got.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So we basically delay my mom by fifteen minutes essentially,
and then as we drive home come upon a like
five car pile up on Highway twelve, and I was like,
we would have been here, and my Mom's like, oh
my god, you're completely right, Like, yeah, I put it
together where I was like this, this was us. This
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was a final destination situation if it wasn't for the
quality writing of mister alan Alda and everybody else that worked.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Which I love Alan Alda. Don't fucking at me. I
totally understand that everyone loves mash It's actually a good show.
Just as a child, I was traumatized by it, and
so child wants to watch an army show exactly for
the jokes, no, no, for the adult jokes.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah no, okay, okay, oh I forgot. That wasn't mine.
This one is for all the theater kids out there,
Oh dear. The subject line is I grew up in
a prison town. Here's a story about my favorite prison break. Okay,
it says, hi, friends, let's jump right in. I just
listened to the episode about the two thousand and six
prison break in Lansing, Kansas, and immediately started squealing, that's
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my hometown. I'm here right now, the prison is only
a few miles away. After calling my non murderino husband,
that's a given. You don't have to say that it's
double Yeah, it's redundant. Who feigned a lackluster interest in
my excitement. I knew it was time to write two
people who actually care.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's right, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
We moved here when I was a junior in high school.
My siblings and I were a little nervous about living
so close to the correctional facility, but my parents reassured
us if a prisoner escaped, their goal would be to
get as far away from town as possible, so technically
Lancing might be one of the safest places to live.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
They will still, you need a change of clothes real
quick and a car.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, sometimes you have to hurt a person for.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That car before you can leave the area.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Listen, it's parent logic, and they're like, here's why you
never have to worry about this ever again.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
How about you shut the fuck up?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah eight, ear spaghetti with your fingers at the pool.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That's from last episode.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh sorry, they were, but man, don't you want to
hear what that's all about? Good callback teaser? They were
proved right on multiple occasions. But let me tell you
about my favorite prison break. First, you need to know
I'm a theater kid. Yes, one of those insufferably enthusiastic
ones who unironically loved flash mobs and belted flash mobs
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and belted wicked at the top of our lungs in
the car. My senior year, our high school musical was
Beauty and the Beast. We had a gorgeous set, a
stunning cast, and our directors went all out and rented
elaborate costumes for us. We were deep into dress rehearsals
and the costumes were not easy to move in, especially
during the br guest scene. The silverware costumes were top
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heavy and the plates were so wide they could probably
take out a freshman if you turned around too fast.
Then we got an emergency notice. Two prisoners had escaped
from the correctional facility that night. Matthew Glenn Allender and
Chad Dwayne Ammick were on the run. They were considered
armed and dangerous. The biggest concern during prison breaks around
here tends to be car theft. Since we were all
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naive teenagers, our entire cast had to shuffle outside and
lock our cars before locking ourselves inside the auditorium to
finish rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I say, don't make it harder for them to get
a car like unlock everyone's car and put your keys in.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
There and get them out of there.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Get out of there. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah,
but rather than carjacking someone in their car.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Very true, especially a teen that's also now I'm going
to play the insurance adjuster. Hey, watch those rates, okay,
And in parentheses it says, why didn't they cancel rehearsal
during the prison break? Great question, I have no idea.
The show must go on, I guess. So then it
says I know the escapees were probably nowhere near the
high school, but I like to imagine that what they
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would have seen if they had been a waddling teapot
silverware clumsily clanking together, high schoolers in giant cardboard plate
costumes trying not to be knocked over by the wind,
and two volunteer dad standing guard with baseball bats that
they'd found in the property.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
They were trying to look intimidating, but let's be real,
they were just happy to be there. If I were
an escaped prisoner and saw that on my way out
of town, I would have turned around and broken back
into prison. Fucking theater kids. And then it says, these days,
I'm a teacher in Lancing and still an insufferable theater kid.
But at least I'm a little more self aware. When
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people find out I teach my old high school, they
usually give me a weird look. High school was hell
for a lot of people, but I feel like being
back gives me a chance to make it better for
someone else.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Maybe some of my students will have a better experience
than my friends and I did. Every time you read
one of these sweet emails about how a teacher changed
someone's life, just not it works both ways. Oh, our
students change our lives too. We love them unk conditionally
and we're always excited to hear from them again. Stay
sexy and keep your car doors locked, Sarah, she her, Sarah,
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that's nice, beautiful person. Sarah. Were you a plate or
a four?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We must know? And how much did does costumes cost?
And where'd you get the money from?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I mean Harddow That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Therapy Dogs MFM Crew Human and Animal. In episode four
eighty six, Georgia told the incredible story of Smoky, the
hero dog, and mentioned that Smokey was one of the
inspirations for current therapy dogs. It maybe want to tell
my personal therapy dog story. My oldest son is fifteen
and is the child, polite, responsible, sweet, the whole package.
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Last October, we learned that my son would need to
get chemotherapy and radiation treatment on cysts on his arm
that kept coming back despite surgical removal. Scary, as you
can imagine, it through our lives into total disarray. Each
chemo round involved a three to four day admission at
Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, where we live. The
absolute highlight of three admissions was when the therapy dogs
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would visit the oncology floor. When you're going through a
tough time, having a sweet baby dog to snuggle for
a bit is wonderful. Those dogs demonstrated the power that
animals can have on our lives. The people who train
these dogs are absolute heroes to families going through a
difficult medical situation. I'm happy to report that my son
is cancer free and is ready to start his sophomore
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year of high school. SSDGM and give your furry friends
an extra squeeze for me. Chris he him and cookies
in the sound booth right now too.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Chris is like a new believer in like dog power
and the effect of dogs. Some people like we all
you did not you didn't know about dogs. You should
get into dogs because you don't have to be going
through badshit either. You can just come home from work
and oh they god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's a really good point. Just wake up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's sweet though, And I'm thank god that's the story
because how frightening it's your beautiful, perfect first child. Yeah,
and then this thing happens. And I bet you like
those therapy dogs were as important for the family as
they are for the patient.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Totally to see their kids smiling. I'm sure all the
kids on that floor, Yeah, little kids wanting to see
that beautiful adopt, don't shop. Make sure you adopt and
turn your dog into a therapy dog if he behaves
better than klokie. That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Also, let's just wrap it up with something superficial and stupid,
and it says Malibu celebrity encounters, how Barbara streisand ruined
the summer of nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In that summer, my cousins were neighbors with Barbara streisand oh.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Really in malbo okay, counterpoint, so we should probably get
them on the phone on a liveline. What if this
was from one that's weird? Yeah, okay, it says greeting ZOL,
and I just wanted to say this. Georgia has family
that could actually counterpoint this. We have no stake in
the Barbara Streisand game, no whatsoever. Oh no, shit's about
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to get talked about her. Oh no, Okay, I'm just
saying I'm just here to read the email.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's just my gossip.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yes, okay, because that's who we ask people to do, right,
But this is for entertainber purposes only allegedly.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Allegedly. Don't add us Alan Alda, Barbara streisand don't ask towns.
We're big fans. Mash the whole fucking thing. Okay, got
that out of the way.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Okay, So the email goes like this, greeting ZOL. I
know time is short, so I will jump right in.
I attended college in the mid late nineties in a
beach town just north of Los Angeles, where lots of
celebrities reside. Unfortunately for me and my roommates, Barbara Streisand
lived just across the highway from our condo complex in
her massive compound. Well that summer, Babs was getting married
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to James Brolin on July first, nineteen ninety eight. I
think they're still married. Yeah, I think it was real.
And also shares a mall in her basement. Did you
know that she built a little shopping area so she
could go shopping because she can't just go to the mall.
I love that story. I'm gonna do that makes me
sad for all that I know, because it's an actual prison. Yeah,
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she's in a prison of fame. For all the negative
things that are said about her. I'm gonna try to
think of a positive.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I mean, she's incredible actress, how about it?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Okay, I just watched a thing where somebody did like
a blind reaction to a Barry Gibbon her song and
they were freaking out.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I was just like, this is this right?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, like this voice is incredible, or just like.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Really looking Barbara Streis.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I love those, but this is different because this is
about traffic in LA and so everybody's.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I remember my cousin's talking about this wedding.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, amazing. So they're getting married. She's marrying James Brolin
on July first, nineteen ninety eight, for all caps months
ahead of the big event, the paparazzi and newsvans were
lined up on the highway in front of our home,
which is truly a two lane highway.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, pch for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They blocked traffic, They blocked our driveway, left garbage strewn
all up and down the road. That's very irresponsible and
caused general mayhem twenty four hours a day, all to
try and get a glimpse of Barbara and James. As
the nuptials approached, even more helicopters and news airplanes circled
over the property, completely disrupting our pool and hot tub time.
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How Dario in Malibu, It's so difficult.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I kind of enjoyed the pool, but noise.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
The helicopter blew the bree off of our shaquitary board.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Fuck you.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We didn't get a moment of peace the entire summer.
It was a total nightman.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
The helicopter thing. If you're living in la if it's
above your house for hours on end, you know how
you want to just go crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
That's why I moved out of Silver Lake. Really yeah,
it was NonStop.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
For months on end. I would lose my mind.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, this is really more about the out of control
paparazzi though than anything else. We did see Barbara in
the flesh around town from time to time. She was
not particularly pleasant or nice to encounter. I'll do the counterpoint.
Can you imagine if every time you fucking went to
get yourself a donut.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Someone was judging you and gonna tell all their friends right,
and then screamed at you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And forcing an encounter. It's not the way they wanted
to be. They whip right around on you. She's a bit.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Crueler curler croller, croller, crawler, crawler.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I actually don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Why, don't I use could used anything else? Go try
it again.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I never saw James though, or Josh And then in
parentheses that actually says hubba hubba, which is hilarious. Did
my mom write this email? We did see many other celebrities,
but since our town was also their home, we were
counseled as incoming freshmen to ignore them and let them
go about their dates. So this is more of a
general report because this person went to Pepperdine and so
they're like, I went to Pepperdine from some other town
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where there's no celebrities and was delivered into selet celeberty Central.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, and that Pepperdine was like, be fucking cool. Don't
give us a bad name.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yes, don't make the Starbucks ban you, right, so they say.
Top sightings include Pierce Brosnan in parentheses. He's shorter than
he looks on film. They all are Woody Harrelson, Tom Hanks,
and Rita Wilson in parentheses. Very nice people. Robert Downey
Junior in parentheses. This was during the bad years, so
he was a mess. So glad he overcame his dv ah.
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This is literally just we're hanging over the right now.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, just gabbing with our neighbor.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
What's up in Malibu?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Do you have any shibley? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
And Nick Nolty always in a dirty brown bathrobe and
bunny slippers in the middle of the day because he's
Nick Nolty and he can do what he wants. I
no longer live in that dreamy little slice of California,
but my friends and I plan on returning there someday
when we are retired, to live together once again at
the beach, wear kaftands, drink cocktails and scare college students
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with our bad grandma antics. Love the podcast, Keep them Coming,
SSDGM love.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
B Wow that's a good one, truly, actually not.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
We didn't have to be defensive of Barbara because.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
There wasn't about It wasn't like the flowers were tacky. No,
it was not at all.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It wasn't a takedown except for the thing of the criticism,
which is just like just truly try to put yourself
also to that level. She's been famous since Broadway in
the early sixties Broadway Broadway.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, for sure. So our message to you is give
Barbara a Braakley, Barbara alve Barbara alone, Thank you for listening,
Stay sexy, don't get murdered. Goodbye, Malibu, Elvis, do you
want to cookie?
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Speaker 2 (26:50):
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Speaker 3 (26:53):
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Speaker 2 (26:55):
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Speaker 3 (26:57):
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Nay, Hello and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm my favorite Murder the minisode we read you your stories,
you go first. Okay, this is about a summer job
at a cemetery. Hi, Karen and Georgia. Day one listener
here since twenty sixteen and first time writing you to
tell you my hometown murder. I grew up in a
small town in southwestern Wyoming. Yes, all towns in Wyoming
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are small.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
There's no towns in Woming.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
In my late teens, I worked at the cemetery for
a summer job for my first two years of college
in the late nineties early two thousands. I worked on
the grounds crew, mostly mowing and repairing sprinkler systems. The
job was relatively mundane until the FBI came to exhume
two bodies one day while I was working.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I mean, that's for high school.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Did they say college?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
College? Yeah, that's sick, A big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah. Rewind to nineteen ninety six when the Sun will
call him. Joe, of two school teachers in the same town,
lost his son and wife in a tragic accident. The
family was on a fun day trip near a lake
in the High Plains. They were overlooking a two hundred
foot cliff, and when Joe went to his car to
get a soda, his wife and son fell to their
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deaths off the two hundred foot cliff. It was a
horrible accident, and the whole small town rallied around Joe
to support him. Fast forward to nineteen ninety nine, when
Joe is arrested for hiring a hit man to kill
his school teacher parents. The hit man was Joe's childhood
friend and the local small town drug dealer, Jesus fucking Christ. However,
this drug dealer has morals, so after Joe asked him
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to murder his parents, he reported it to the police
and the FBI began listening in on their phone calls.
It's a small town in Wyoming, I mean this would
be crazy in La.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
In any It's everywhere. It's like, it's to the person.
It's not the place where you are. Yeah, someone gets
a little idea, this is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Joe eventually took a plea bargain to serve ten years
in prison for conspiracy to commit murder federal charges. However,
small town gossip started around the possibility that maybe his
wife and sons deaths were not an accident. The drug
dealer hitman reported to the FBI that Joe had asked
him to kill his wife and son about a month
before their quote accident. In two thousand, while I was
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working at the cemetery, the FBI came and exhumed the
bodies of his wife and son. In two thousand and one,
Joe was charged with the murders of his wife and son.
The key witnesses were the drug dealer hitman and a
young woman. The young woman was thirteen years old when
she met a then twenty three year old married Joe,
and they started having an affair in nineteen ninety six.
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She's thirteen. He told her that he wanted to get
out of his marriage, but didn't want to get a
divorce because he didn't want to have to pay child support.
He used to bring her on dates to the cliff
that he would eventually throw his wifefe and.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Sign off of This man is sick.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
This is so fucked up.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's so bad.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I can't believe we haven't heard of this. Also, like
what did they find from the exhumation, because like that
seems like you really wouldn't find much, But I.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Guess or maybe they were drugged and because they didn't fall.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right or bruises that happened beforehand, I don't know. Joe
was eventually convicted of two counts of first degree murder
and the deaths of his wife and child, two counts
of soliciting their murders, and two counts of soliciting his parents' murders,
and was sentenced to six life sentences. Thank god, you
didn't just get those ten years.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
What about statutory rape for dating a thirteen year old?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh? Can we do that too, lord? Craziest part. Even
after hearing the FBI recorded conversation in Joe's own voice
asking someone to murder his parents, his parents still supported
him and did not believe he had tried to hire
someone to kill them. You just that's like, you can't, no,
you can't go past that. They also supported him through
the murder trial of his wife and son. Stay sexy
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and don't hire the local small town drug dealer as
a hitman.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
CPA she her Shannon was at the core of everything
happening in that tiny Wyoming town. Yeah, I mean, good God.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
At the cemetery, Oh my lord.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Also that kind of thing where what a fascinating thing
it would be to be like, here's the tragedy that
everyone thought was a tragedy and you've held terrible about
for thirty years. Yeah, and then actually the last person
in the world that deserves your sympathy.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Or if you hadn't then become even more greedy and
tried to kill your own parents, you would have gotten
away with it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Forever takes all kids.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Okay, we'll do similar. This is a crime based one
as well. This object line is superhero great great grandparents.
So it says, high folks, greetings from Ireland. This might
be long, so for Jesus sake, let's get into it. Karen,
this is your time to shine. Get your accent out.
It's just like I can do that when it's me
talking to you. Yeah, when it's someone from Ireland. No thanks.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Just think of that guy who makes those videos. It's
his name. I love him. Is it Sean Jesus fucking Christ.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The I'm delicious guy, Yes, blanking, I'm his number one fan.
He's also coming to America. At some point I saw that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So there's so many people tagged me where I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Got Yeah, this is Christ, don't do it? Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So My great great grandfather, Peter O'Carroll was a locksmith
in Dublin during the Irish War of Independence. He was
also the father of several active IRA members, including my
great grandfather Michael O'Carroll. On October sixteenth, nineteen twenty, Peter
was shot and killed outside his shop on Manor Street.
A note was pinned to his chest that said trader,
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so that those who found him would believe that he
had been a trader to the Irish cause. For decades,
our family and wider community believed that he had been
murdered by the Black and Tans or the British forces
in an act of random brutality. Years later, during an
episode of Who Do You Think You Are? Which is
that DNA family trees type of show, my cousin Kimmi
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and Brendan O'Carroll discovered the truth. Peter's death wasn't random
at all. British forces had given him an ultimatum either
turn in his IRA sons or face the consequences. When
he refused, he was executed by Joscelyn Lee Hardy, a
British intelligence officer infamous for his ruthlessness.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Holy shit.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The revelation was both shocking and clarifying for our family.
It painted a clearer picture of Peter not just as
a victim, but as a man who knowingly stood by
his beliefs and protected his children in a time of
brutal police violence. Wow, he just was like kill me
then totally. And then they fucking pin Trader on him
so that they think he's like an inside.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And its generations. Then, like the Irish thing is like,
it doesn't matter how far removed you are, You're the
Trader family, right. What was the TV show? Thought? That
was so fucking good?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Say Nothing, Say No.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh yeah, the book Say Nothing, but the TV series
was incredible as well.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Tell no One, Say Nothing, Say Nothing. As it happens.
At the time, my great grandfather and his brothers were
being hidden by the Capuchin monks in a church in Dublin,
the same church my grandmother and father would be laid
to rest in much later. I say, I'm pagan but
Catholic a la carte from my upbringing, but I thank
the deities every day that my great grandfather was given
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refuge so that I may know my grandmother and enjoy
my father. It seems so very small, but in times
of adversity. I rest my intuition in my ancestors. My father,
great grandson of Peter O'Carroll, died very suddenly in his fifties.
From the time I was very small, my father always
said that those who go before us never truly leave us.
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I was barely twenty one when my father died. I'm
in my thirties now. Whenever I say, Dad, I need
you now, the issue just resolves itself. Oh, thanks for
letting me share, Stay sexy, Trust your ancestors, and don't
get murdered. All the best ladies to you and yours always.
E Wow, that's epic. Yeah thing, make sure you watch
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that TV show. Yeah, I mean that's incredible. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's so tragic that, like that's the choice you had
to make back then, ye, which is so unnecessary because
you can't take over not country.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But this sacrifices that people make in the day to
day that we'll never hear about. It's such a cool
thing to be able to tell that story where it's
like that O Carol is one of many.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
There's so many of those stories out there.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, totally who people are just were like, well, it's
for the betterment of my children.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Right, amazing, This is embarrassing, but must be done. This
one's called a fart machine. Saved my family. Oh okay,
so it's kind of the same, you know, thematic like
what is this show? Okay? Greetings Karen, Georgia and pets,
longtime listeners, even longer time sisters, first time writing in together.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
They're sharing the same chair, each one their hand eye
and they're fighting.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
They're absolutely pulling each other's hair. Here we go to
set the scene. We grew up in Little Rock, Arkansas,
and while it was great, it was pretty easy to
run out of things to do in town. So one
spring day in the early two thousands, our parents packed
up the Honda minivan with us and our brother and
took us on a day trip an hour's drive south
to the town of Hot Springs. After parking, we began
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walking down the main street toward a cafe for a
bite to eat. The three of us kids and my
mom were a little ahead of my dad, passing antique stores,
ice cream parlors, and souvenir shops when my dad spotted
something in the window of a toy store and called
us back to come look. As we peeked through the glass,
we see what my dad is staring at. A remote
controlled fart machine.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Dad stopped carrying long tracks.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, in case you're not familiar, a remote controlled fart
machine allows a prankster to hide the device in a
couch or under a chair, push a button on the
remote from afar. I mean, this is like a high
tech whippie cushion.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
No one he needs this explanation in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And let one rip on an unsuspecting victim by emitting
a fart noise?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And how is that battery operated? Or do you plug
it into the wall?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Now you have to charge it. This one, in particular,
had a variety of different farts to choose from burying
in length and disgusting. This for my dad, as the
youngest of eight kids growing up in the sixties, and
this was something he could have only dreamed of.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
True. As my dad and little brother stared in admiration,
my mom, myself and sister waited impatiently while rolling our eyes.
After about thirty seconds, we convinced the boys to move on.
At the exact second we were dragging them away, a
car suddenly veered off the main street onto the sidewalk
and smashed straight into a storefront only a few steps
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in front of us.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
The fart machine saved the family.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, but it gets that could be enough, but it
gets weirter. Okay. From that moment, chaos ensued. Shattered glass
flew everywhere, People were screaming to call nine one one,
and others went to check on the driver and the
people stuck in the store. At one point, a woman
in the store thought her baby was trapped under the car.
Fuck unharmed by the crash. My siblings and I watched
and shocked from the sidewalk. Sometime during the mayhem, as
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my mom was on the phone with the police and
my dad and others were checking that no one was
under the car, I looked up and noticed that a
man was now running away from the scene of the crash,
carrying my three year old brother over his shoulder. No
what I know. I panicked and screamed, he has my brother,
which caught the attention of bystanderds and my parents, who
hadn't noticed that their youngest child was being abducted. The
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man stopped, walked back and put my brother down, and
proudly exclaimed to my son parents, I saved him. The
man then took the opportunity to request compensation for his
quote heroic efforts picked him up and was like running
out of the way the car, but the car had
already crashed.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, let's talk about compensation.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Karen just put up two knuckle sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, you can have these two sandwiches. And then we
got this whole crowd would like to seriously, I mean, oh,
fucking where's that baby?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Okay, go ahead, baby's fine, the baby's fine. Okay, there's
no baby under the cook. My dad, in shock and
wanting to end this interaction, handed him a twenty dollars
bill and grabbed my brother, effectively paying his ransom.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Ye fuck that guy. Chaos monster, chaos.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
All in all, it was a freak accident and luckily
no one had any major injuries. My brother doesn't even
remember getting kidnapped or that my dad thought he was
only worth twenty dollars. That's a really good point that
he did, but he is still upset that he lost
his beloved green power Ranger toy at some point during
it all. But had we not stopped to see the
fart machine, our entire family would have been in the
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exact spot where the car came speeding onto the sidewalk.
Stay sexy, Ande always take time to stop and smell
the fart machines. That was really good, Alison and Caroline, so.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Sister team, Yeah, that was great. Guys, as two sisters,
you did an amazing job with that. One of you
did a little bit better than the other.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
We're not going to tell you.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We won't say how. Do you know what's crazy? Is
that actually happened Me and my sister. We were at
my grandparents' house. They lived in Sonoma. We lived in Pedalomas,
connected by Highway twelve, where every ten or so years
high school students are killed because it's a windy back
road with almost no lighting. And my mom was like,
we're leaving, put your shoes on. But both me and
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my sister were taking a really long time because Mash
was on and we wanted to see the ending, and
so we babe.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's just what it's all we had. It's all we
had got.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So we basically delay my mom by fifteen minutes essentially,
and then as we drive home come upon a like
five car pile up on Highway twelve, and I was like,
we would have been here, and my Mom's like, oh
my god, you're completely right, Like, yeah, I put it
together where I was like this, this was us. This
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was a final destination situation if it wasn't for the
quality writing of mister alan Alda and everybody else that worked.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Which I love Alan Alda. Don't fucking at me. I
totally understand that everyone loves mash It's actually a good show.
Just as a child, I was traumatized by it, and
so child wants to watch an army show exactly for
the jokes, no, no, for the adult jokes.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah no, okay, okay, oh I forgot. That wasn't mine.
This one is for all the theater kids out there,
Oh dear. The subject line is I grew up in
a prison town. Here's a story about my favorite prison break. Okay,
it says, hi, friends, let's jump right in. I just
listened to the episode about the two thousand and six
prison break in Lansing, Kansas, and immediately started squealing, that's
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my hometown. I'm here right now, the prison is only
a few miles away. After calling my non murderino husband,
that's a given. You don't have to say that it's
double Yeah, it's redundant. Who feigned a lackluster interest in
my excitement. I knew it was time to write two
people who actually care.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's right, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
We moved here when I was a junior in high school.
My siblings and I were a little nervous about living
so close to the correctional facility, but my parents reassured
us if a prisoner escaped, their goal would be to
get as far away from town as possible, so technically
Lancing might be one of the safest places to live.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
They will still, you need a change of clothes real
quick and a car.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, sometimes you have to hurt a person for.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That car before you can leave the area.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Listen, it's parent logic, and they're like, here's why you
never have to worry about this ever again.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
How about you shut the fuck up?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah eight, ear spaghetti with your fingers at the pool.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That's from last episode.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh sorry, they were, but man, don't you want to
hear what that's all about? Good callback teaser? They were
proved right on multiple occasions. But let me tell you
about my favorite prison break. First, you need to know
I'm a theater kid. Yes, one of those insufferably enthusiastic
ones who unironically loved flash mobs and belted flash mobs
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and belted wicked at the top of our lungs in
the car. My senior year, our high school musical was
Beauty and the Beast. We had a gorgeous set, a
stunning cast, and our directors went all out and rented
elaborate costumes for us. We were deep into dress rehearsals
and the costumes were not easy to move in, especially
during the br guest scene. The silverware costumes were top
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heavy and the plates were so wide they could probably
take out a freshman if you turned around too fast.
Then we got an emergency notice. Two prisoners had escaped
from the correctional facility that night. Matthew Glenn Allender and
Chad Dwayne Ammick were on the run. They were considered
armed and dangerous. The biggest concern during prison breaks around
here tends to be car theft. Since we were all
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naive teenagers, our entire cast had to shuffle outside and
lock our cars before locking ourselves inside the auditorium to
finish rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I say, don't make it harder for them to get
a car like unlock everyone's car and put your keys in.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
There and get them out of there.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Get out of there. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah,
but rather than carjacking someone in their car.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Very true, especially a teen that's also now I'm going
to play the insurance adjuster. Hey, watch those rates, okay,
And in parentheses it says, why didn't they cancel rehearsal
during the prison break? Great question, I have no idea.
The show must go on, I guess. So then it
says I know the escapees were probably nowhere near the
high school, but I like to imagine that what they
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would have seen if they had been a waddling teapot
silverware clumsily clanking together, high schoolers in giant cardboard plate
costumes trying not to be knocked over by the wind,
and two volunteer dad standing guard with baseball bats that
they'd found in the property.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
They were trying to look intimidating, but let's be real,
they were just happy to be there. If I were
an escaped prisoner and saw that on my way out
of town, I would have turned around and broken back
into prison. Fucking theater kids. And then it says, these days,
I'm a teacher in Lancing and still an insufferable theater kid.
But at least I'm a little more self aware. When
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people find out I teach my old high school, they
usually give me a weird look. High school was hell
for a lot of people, but I feel like being
back gives me a chance to make it better for
someone else.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Maybe some of my students will have a better experience
than my friends and I did. Every time you read
one of these sweet emails about how a teacher changed
someone's life, just not it works both ways. Oh, our
students change our lives too. We love them unk conditionally
and we're always excited to hear from them again. Stay
sexy and keep your car doors locked, Sarah, she her, Sarah,
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that's nice, beautiful person. Sarah. Were you a plate or
a four?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We must know? And how much did does costumes cost?
And where'd you get the money from?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I mean Harddow That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Therapy Dogs MFM Crew Human and Animal. In episode four
eighty six, Georgia told the incredible story of Smoky, the
hero dog, and mentioned that Smokey was one of the
inspirations for current therapy dogs. It maybe want to tell
my personal therapy dog story. My oldest son is fifteen
and is the child, polite, responsible, sweet, the whole package.
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Last October, we learned that my son would need to
get chemotherapy and radiation treatment on cysts on his arm
that kept coming back despite surgical removal. Scary, as you
can imagine, it through our lives into total disarray. Each
chemo round involved a three to four day admission at
Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, where we live. The
absolute highlight of three admissions was when the therapy dogs
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would visit the oncology floor. When you're going through a
tough time, having a sweet baby dog to snuggle for
a bit is wonderful. Those dogs demonstrated the power that
animals can have on our lives. The people who train
these dogs are absolute heroes to families going through a
difficult medical situation. I'm happy to report that my son
is cancer free and is ready to start his sophomore
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year of high school. SSDGM and give your furry friends
an extra squeeze for me. Chris he him and cookies
in the sound booth right now too.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Chris is like a new believer in like dog power
and the effect of dogs. Some people like we all
you did not you didn't know about dogs. You should
get into dogs because you don't have to be going
through badshit either. You can just come home from work
and oh they god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's a really good point. Just wake up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's sweet though, And I'm thank god that's the story
because how frightening it's your beautiful, perfect first child. Yeah,
and then this thing happens. And I bet you like
those therapy dogs were as important for the family as
they are for the patient.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Totally to see their kids smiling. I'm sure all the
kids on that floor, Yeah, little kids wanting to see
that beautiful adopt, don't shop. Make sure you adopt and
turn your dog into a therapy dog if he behaves
better than klokie. That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Also, let's just wrap it up with something superficial and stupid,
and it says Malibu celebrity encounters, how Barbara streisand ruined
the summer of nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In that summer, my cousins were neighbors with Barbara streisand oh.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Really in malbo okay, counterpoint, so we should probably get
them on the phone on a liveline. What if this
was from one that's weird? Yeah, okay, it says greeting ZOL,
and I just wanted to say this. Georgia has family
that could actually counterpoint this. We have no stake in
the Barbara Streisand game, no whatsoever. Oh no, shit's about
(21:20):
to get talked about her. Oh no, Okay, I'm just
saying I'm just here to read the email.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's just my gossip.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yes, okay, because that's who we ask people to do, right,
But this is for entertainber purposes only allegedly.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Allegedly. Don't add us Alan Alda, Barbara streisand don't ask towns.
We're big fans. Mash the whole fucking thing. Okay, got
that out of the way.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Okay, So the email goes like this, greeting ZOL. I
know time is short, so I will jump right in.
I attended college in the mid late nineties in a
beach town just north of Los Angeles, where lots of
celebrities reside. Unfortunately for me and my roommates, Barbara Streisand
lived just across the highway from our condo complex in
her massive compound. Well that summer, Babs was getting married
(22:04):
to James Brolin on July first, nineteen ninety eight. I
think they're still married. Yeah, I think it was real.
And also shares a mall in her basement. Did you
know that she built a little shopping area so she
could go shopping because she can't just go to the mall.
I love that story. I'm gonna do that makes me
sad for all that I know, because it's an actual prison. Yeah,
(22:24):
she's in a prison of fame. For all the negative
things that are said about her. I'm gonna try to
think of a positive.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I mean, she's incredible actress, how about it?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Okay, I just watched a thing where somebody did like
a blind reaction to a Barry Gibbon her song and
they were freaking out.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I was just like, this is this right?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, like this voice is incredible, or just like.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Really looking Barbara Streis.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I love those, but this is different because this is
about traffic in LA and so everybody's.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I remember my cousin's talking about this wedding.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, amazing. So they're getting married. She's marrying James Brolin
on July first, nineteen ninety eight, for all caps months
ahead of the big event, the paparazzi and newsvans were
lined up on the highway in front of our home,
which is truly a two lane highway.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, pch for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They blocked traffic, They blocked our driveway, left garbage strewn
all up and down the road. That's very irresponsible and
caused general mayhem twenty four hours a day, all to
try and get a glimpse of Barbara and James. As
the nuptials approached, even more helicopters and news airplanes circled
over the property, completely disrupting our pool and hot tub time.
(23:30):
How Dario in Malibu, It's so difficult.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I kind of enjoyed the pool, but noise.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
The helicopter blew the bree off of our shaquitary board.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Fuck you.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We didn't get a moment of peace the entire summer.
It was a total nightman.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
The helicopter thing. If you're living in la if it's
above your house for hours on end, you know how
you want to just go crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
That's why I moved out of Silver Lake. Really yeah,
it was NonStop.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
For months on end. I would lose my mind.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, this is really more about the out of control
paparazzi though than anything else. We did see Barbara in
the flesh around town from time to time. She was
not particularly pleasant or nice to encounter. I'll do the counterpoint.
Can you imagine if every time you fucking went to
get yourself a donut.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Someone was judging you and gonna tell all their friends right,
and then screamed at you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And forcing an encounter. It's not the way they wanted
to be. They whip right around on you. She's a bit.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Crueler curler croller, croller, crawler, crawler.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I actually don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Why, don't I use could used anything else? Go try
it again.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I never saw James though, or Josh And then in
parentheses that actually says hubba hubba, which is hilarious. Did
my mom write this email? We did see many other celebrities,
but since our town was also their home, we were
counseled as incoming freshmen to ignore them and let them
go about their dates. So this is more of a
general report because this person went to Pepperdine and so
they're like, I went to Pepperdine from some other town
(24:57):
where there's no celebrities and was delivered into selet celeberty Central.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, and that Pepperdine was like, be fucking cool. Don't
give us a bad name.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yes, don't make the Starbucks ban you, right, so they say.
Top sightings include Pierce Brosnan in parentheses. He's shorter than
he looks on film. They all are Woody Harrelson, Tom Hanks,
and Rita Wilson in parentheses. Very nice people. Robert Downey
Junior in parentheses. This was during the bad years, so
he was a mess. So glad he overcame his dv ah.
(25:26):
This is literally just we're hanging over the right now.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, just gabbing with our neighbor.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
What's up in Malibu?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Do you have any shibley? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
And Nick Nolty always in a dirty brown bathrobe and
bunny slippers in the middle of the day because he's
Nick Nolty and he can do what he wants. I
no longer live in that dreamy little slice of California,
but my friends and I plan on returning there someday
when we are retired, to live together once again at
the beach, wear kaftands, drink cocktails and scare college students
(25:56):
with our bad grandma antics. Love the podcast, Keep them Coming,
SSDGM love.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
B Wow that's a good one, truly, actually not.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
We didn't have to be defensive of Barbara because.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
There wasn't about It wasn't like the flowers were tacky. No,
it was not at all.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It wasn't a takedown except for the thing of the criticism,
which is just like just truly try to put yourself
also to that level. She's been famous since Broadway in
the early sixties Broadway Broadway.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, for sure. So our message to you is give
Barbara a Braakley, Barbara alve Barbara alone, Thank you for listening,
Stay sexy, don't get murdered. Goodbye, Malibu, Elvis, do you
want to cookie?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
This has been an exactly Right production.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Our senior producers are Alle Hundra Keck and Molly Smith.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Our editor is Aristotle las Veda.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
This episode was mixed by Leona Squilacci.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
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Speaker 1 (27:12):
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