November 3, 2025 • 19 mins
This week’s hometowns include a Zodiac suspect and an eerie psychic experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello and welcome my favorite Murder the minisode where we
read you your stories.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We haven't done this in a while, a while. It
feels like it's been six months. Let's really do it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's do it for real. Though you want to go first,
I would.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Like to if you would please let me. This is
a good one. I'm going to read you the subject line.
The subject line is my godfather was a Zodiac suspect.
Is this familiar?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Not yet?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay, Hey, bestiees. I was born in Valeo, California.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We met her at the.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
We met this person in line in the VIP meet
and greet line at our Oakland show.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
She was like no, no, no, no. We were like send
it in, send it in.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Molly pulled it and here we are. Hey, Bestias.
I was born in Valeo, California, and my dad's side
of the family has deep roots there in parentheses and
some good connections to Sonoma County. Hi, Karen, we already
said hi. My dad was my original murder. You know.
He was obsessed with the jfk assassination and the Zodiac Killer,
and he passed that fascination right down to me. I
(01:23):
remember reading Robert Graysmith's Zodiac when I was about thirteen. Yes,
that's how it always happens. My dad graduated from Valao
High in the early sixties and I loved asking him
what it was like living there during the Zodiac years.
He said he actually was acquainted with a few of
the Valeo victims and clearly remembered the fear and the
buzz around town. I mean, in Satyrifine. One day, his friend,
(01:48):
let's call him Joe, who would later become my godfather,
called him and said, Hey, the Solano County Sheriff is
running ballistics on every registered nine millimeter in the county
and asked me to bring mine in. Do you want
to bring into Not wanting to miss out on history,
my dad said sure, so they brought their guns in
for testing. While my dad was waiting in the hall,
(02:08):
he asked an officer, are you really calling everyone with
a registered nine millimeter? And the guy goes, oh, no,
your buddy in there, he's a suspect.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
This woman told us this like as she was walking away,
and we were like, oh, wait, wait, what are you
talking about. Apparently Joe matched the physical description, stocky build,
short hair, dark framed, glasses, a bit of a loner,
and a military background. Needless to say, Joe was not
thrilled to hear someone had reported it. Yeah, the fear.
(02:40):
A little while later, my godfather was woken up in
the middle of the night by the sheriff knocking on
his door asking to come in. Thinking fast, he called
a lawyer friend who told him not to let him
in without a warrant. And that was that. No arrest,
no follow up, no mention of him anywhere in the
Zodiac books or documentaries, so I'm guessing they didn't have
much on him. I actually grew up in the same
(03:01):
house my dad did in Valleo. That'd be cool. Most
of the neighbors had been there for decades and they
all knew each other. Fun fact, Arthur Lee Allen, the
longtime Zodiac suspect, lived just two blocks away.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Holy shit.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
One of my neighbors told me that before he was
a known suspect, he once invited her over to see
his knife collection.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
She said something about him made her so uncomfortable she
left almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, because he's the Zodiac killer.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He's the Zodiac killer, and you have a system set
up in your body to tell you know that. As
for my godfather Joe, he never did anything truly suspicious.
Over the years they all had their eye on him.
He was quirky, sure, but apparently not enough to stop
my recovering Catholic parents from making him my godfather some
years later. My dad passed away over a decade ago,
(03:52):
and Joe about five years ago. I really thought one
of them might drop a deathbed confession, but no. Dice
loved seeing you at the Oak. Lad. I'm late to
the MFM party, but have been binging for three years
and still catching up. I love that you can be
late to a party like from three years ago. Yeah
that's pretty Yeah that parties law. Love to you both
(04:13):
and thank you for everything you do. Stay sexy and
don't get suspected.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Christina, Wow, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's a giddy well.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I have a true crime one middle school wolf in
sheep's clothing. It's called Hey friend, Arenos. Oh, I am
my best friend.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Bean.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Love your podcast and have become so much more aware
of our surroundings since we started listening in twenty seventeen.
We know how much you love a personal serial killer experience.
So let's get started.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Love is the incorrect word, but awesome right also hiben hiben.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We grew up just outside of Poughkeepsie, and they wrote
it phonetically, but I know Poughkeepsie, New York, and attended
Arlington Middle School from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eight.
Kendall francois nicknamed Stinky for very clear reasons our hall
monitor during that period. He was a huge intimidating man
who took pleasure in giving out too many detentions, especially
(05:07):
to girls. Picture it. I was naive, sheltered eleven years old,
with a bob haircut because my mom didn't have time
to deal with knots, wearing dusty pink corduroy overalls and
a brown floral long sleeve shirt. Bean was my very
best friend, also a nave sheltered sixth grader, wearing brown
overalls with a tan polyester short sleeve shirt, cucumber melon
body spray, and Claire's accessories. It was the nineties, after all.
(05:31):
We were going about our day and walking to lunch
when Stinky stopped us, claiming we were late to lunch.
Late to lunch, I ask, how can you be late
to lunch? We were both really good kids. But while
I had a tendency to verbally stand up against any
and all perceived injustices, Being, on the other hand, was
afraid of everything still is. Actually, she shares your fear
(05:52):
of moths, Karen. I once had a beat one to
death with a flip flop while she lost her shit
cowering in a corner. She tells me every time it's
the fluttering that freaks her out.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's very true. The audio is not great on those so.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Of course, Well, I'm challenging Stinky and asking how one
can possibly be late to lunch not a class dude.
Bean takes off running, leaving me to serve my lunch
detention alone. It was the longest thirty minutes of my
eleven year old life with who we now know was
an incredibly creepy, an active serial killer who raped and
strangled eight plus women from nineteen ninety six to nineteen
(06:28):
ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I didn't know that. I didn't recognize that name.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
No, I looked it up.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's just, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
From that moment on, I avoided Stinky like the plague,
ditching into bathrooms and classrooms whenever I saw him heading
my way At the beginning of eighth grade, Stinky was
apprehended after neighbors complained about the terrible stench coming from
his family's home. The next few months brought trials and
discoveries and at least eight dead women, many of whom
were sex workers. The missing women had been stored in
(06:54):
and around Stinky's house that he lived in with his parents.
He was sentenced to life in prison without parole and
die in prison of twenty fourteen of quote natural causes.
Fast forward thirty ish years later, and Bean and I
are still best friends. She's my person. Over the many
years we've been friends, we've learned to accept each other's
limitations and embrace our strengths. But she will never live down,
(07:14):
leaving me with Stinky in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh my god, Right, the person writing this letter always
gets to pick the restaurant. Oh definitely, I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Just like just has to give her one look, stay sexy,
and it all costs avoid the serial killer.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
In the hallway. Lauren and Bean.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Lauren and Bean, I mean, god damn it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
In the school, and he was called stinky because he
always smelled, like everyone called him that and like you're
like suspicious, weird, creepy feelings about this person turn out
to be more than true.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, the worst possible person.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh God, Well, here's another real one, real hometown. But
the subject line is I was a dairy princess and
my mother connection to a double murder. Hello MFM, Humans
and Creatures. I was listening to Karen's story from episode
one ninety about the murderous dairy Princess, and I thought
i'd write in and talk about my own experience of
(08:12):
being dairy royalty. When I was seventeen, I made the
dairy princess of my county, and for one year I
was the face of the dairy business in my area,
spending my time talking about the importance of calcium and
to school children, handing out awards for best in show,
eating far too much ice cream, and even once participating
(08:32):
in a hand milking contest at the local fair. Rehaps,
it's so country, I love it. This position has been
around for years. In fact, my own mother was also
the dairy princess. Oh she's from a dynasty and was
the one who strong armed me into competing for the title.
My mother did scare the living shit out of my
grandparents because they at one point believed that she had
(08:55):
been the victim of a murder, and then in parentheses
it says spoiler alert, she lived so. On January eleventh,
nineteen seventy nine, two young university students in Bellingham, Washington,
named Karen Mandick and Diane Wilder were lured to a
secluded home by Kenneth Beyonce, one part of the Hillside Stranglers.
(09:15):
He raped and strangled both women before leaving their bodies
stuffed in the backseat of a car. In nineteen seventy nine,
my mother was nineteen years old, worked at a restaurant
in Bellingham and shared the same last name as one
of the victims. On the night that the murders took place,
my rebel of a mother decided to skip going home
after her shift at the restaurant and instead went to
(09:37):
her boyfriend's house without informing her parents of what she
was doing. When my mom failed to arrive home that night,
my grandparents shrugged it off, but when she still wasn't
home a full twenty four hours later, my grandma brought
it up to her friend, who was a clerk with
the sheriff's apartment. This friend informed my grandma that she
had seen my mother's last name on a victim report
(09:58):
and that my grandma needed to call the police a meeting. Instead,
my tough as nail's grandmother got into her car and
drove directly to the police station, and, according to her,
caused such a ruckus in the front lobby that the
two officers had to physically restrain her from trying to
shove her way past the front desk. Once she'd calmed down,
the police explained to her that no, her daughter was
(10:19):
not the victim, but that she could file a missing
person's report. My mom eventually went back to her own house,
where my grandparents promptly grounded her for scaring them to
high heavens, and my mom wasn't allowed to drive herself
to work again for the next four months. Kenneth Bianchi
was found, questioned and charged, and eventually sentenced to life
imprisonment in the Washington State Penitentiary, where he still is today.
(10:42):
When I was a teenager, my mother and I lived
with my grandparents, and whenever my mom would start complaining
about how hard it was to parent a teenage girl,
my grandma would loudly exclaim, remember the time you made
me believe that you are a murder victim. This is
what you deserve.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Dang.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Ways, always remember to stay sexy and maybe don't stay
so long at your boyfriend's house, cat.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Or at least call home.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I mean, I'm yelling at myself back then, right in
the future, because I totally did that shit too.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, I did the thing where you tell them
they're going one place and then you go a different
peace and then they call your friend to who your friends, like,
I don't know you're talking.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, that was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I mean, like, really, it's one of the reasons I
don't want kids, is case that shit happens all the
time and you lose your mind over and over again,
and they don't care.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
No, they just I didn't care. No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's like you don't even know what the big deal is.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, calm down, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Hopefully this podcast is letting the young people know what
their parents are actually worried about, right in the worst
way possible.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I'm saying, we're telling them in the worst way possible.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We are.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
She thought she was crazy until I told her what
the psychic said. Hello from Canada. A few years ago,
I met with the psychic. During my reading, the psychic
connected with my father, who had passed away and I
was two. I didn't tell the psychic anything about me.
She didn't even know my name. I was skeptical at
the beginning of this reading, and I didn't want to
give anything away to see if she was legit. She
relayed things my dad wanted me to know, one being quote,
(12:12):
your dad wants you to tell your mom that it
was him, and.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They're called orbs.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I had no idea what she meant by that and
shrugged it off until a few days later when I
was telling my mom about the experience with the psychic.
When I told her my dad's comment, my mom got
tears in her eyes and looked stunned. She began to
explain to me that she had never told anyone this
because she thought she was seeing things and didn't want
anyone to think she was crazy. I know, I got
choked up when I read this.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Here's her story.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
My dad had just died in a snowmobile accident. My
mom gave birth to my brothers three weeks after this,
and I was two at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Can you, oh, amagine God, you're grieving.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You're grieving and you have to tend a newborn.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And a two year old. Two year olds were yes.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
She was devastated and struggling to take care of two
babies by herself. One night, my grandma Arlene offered to
take me for the night, so my mom would just
have to take care of one baby so she could
hopefully get some rest. My brother was very colicky and
she had finally gotten him settled. She had just laid
down when he began to cry again. At this point,
my mom broke down, crying and screaming in her bedroom,
(13:24):
feeling so overwhelmed. Suddenly, my brother stopped crying. My mom
looked down the hallway in my brother's bedroom and saw
these floating light balls going up and down over my
brother's crib. My brother was mesmerized by them, which stopped
him from crying, and they eventually soothed him back to sleep.
(13:45):
I've heard a lot of great stories about my dad
over the years, and everyone always says he had the
kindest soul. I'd like to think that my dad continues
to show kindness to us on earth and help us
when he can. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
SSDGM RAINA ps I went to your show in Boston
and delivered some Canadian KitKat to Vince after the show.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I hope you got them. We did, We did pps.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I tried American kit cats while in Boston and they
are truly trash.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
She loves it. Oh my kin, my god.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Also, I love like there's nothing better than a psychic
story where the person can say I never told anyone that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Totally you can prove a psychic was right. Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I love those like the psychic that told my sister
be careful of gluten. And it was when Nora was
like four years old, right, And then she went on
to Chsiliacs.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Tell us right as please, if you have any psychic experiences,
good or bad. Yes, the good or the badder the better.
My favorite murderer gmail.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
A psychic that got proved right or the worst psychic.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I want those ones too. That happened at my mom.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
She was devastated when she found out she was scammed.
Oh yeah, okay, my last one. And it just says
my dad Forrest gump Hi there. Growing up, all of
my friends were convinced that my dad was in the CIA.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yet right to it. It was a funny joke. Sometimes
actually believed as he was Stoic Stern and was usually
seen wearing a full suit, while his actual profession was
way less interesting. His life has not been As a child,
he grew up across the street from Paul Cox aka
the Blackout Murderer Georgia covered quite some time ago. Oh,
(15:28):
one of his brothers was and is close with the family.
Do you remember that one?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Not'ro off the top of my head. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There have been so many.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Murders, this joke has gone on.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This joke itself has gone on for too long. Fast
forward to when he was in his early twenties living
in NYC. My dad and his friend were pulled over
car searched on one of the knights that son of
Sam struck in Queen's Keeping it in in Why my
dad bore witness to and survived nine to eleven. I've
never felt luckier than when I was able to watch
(15:58):
my dad walk through the door of my childhood home
that day.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh, oh Jesus, so sad. Yeah, so sad.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
That's like we're still unpacking nine to eleven, and then
and we're doing this stuff that's happening.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now, totally collective trauma.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, so it's just piling up, you know, but more
people in therapy now, sure, Okay, still in n why.
He was also witnessed to Sully landing the plane in
what as if the nine to eleven experience wasn't trauma
enough for one lifetime. Sixteen years later, he came to
visit me when I was on a work trip in Vegas.
(16:35):
If you can guess where this is headed, yep, we
happened to be there during the Harvest Festival shooting all
caps staying in the hotel room next to the shooter.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That feels to me like an email filled with lies,
because that's insane. Oh okay. It's always been an inside
joke with my family that my dad is in fact
a real life for his gump. He is also the
most compassionate, strong, badass dad a woman could ask for.
Love your pod, Thank you for keeping me company in
(17:09):
my neurotic thoughts for all these years. Love Sam, Sam, Sam, Wow, Sam,
I want more details.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I like, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Did they go out to some weird thing to look
at Vegas and come back and they're like the entire
like all of this is closed down.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I mean, like or did they hear the gunshots through
the wall. Oh they're there. That's so fucking scary.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh that's so horrible.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Okay, here's my last one is quick PSA for all
the murderino moms to be And I just loved this,
Hi all, I wanted to share a small way to
give back to victims and their families that most aren't
too familiar with. Pregnant mothers can donate their placentas to
the training of cadaver dogs. The human tissue needed to
train the dogs can be costly for these organizations, and
(17:55):
a donation can go a very long way in training
multiple animals.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I googled I'm searching recovery groups in my area and
just asked them if they were interested in a donation.
Then I told the hospital staff and brought a small
cooler to my birth. The nurses and doctors were very
helpful and I took home a baby and a placenta
at the end of it. Then the search and recovery
team were able to pick it up from me and
I got to meet the dogs who would be benefiting
from my donation.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So stay sexy and donate your placenta.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Lauren Lauren. I mean it's like way to go. I know,
you've invented a whole new way to help. That's incredible,
that's really smart.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Also, you know some people eat the place.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We're not talking about that today. That's not what we're
talking about. Just crime, not murderinos. Yeah, I can bury
them for cadaver dogs, but I can't talk about it,
Santa Taco.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
We're not talking about hippie moms trying to get those vitamins.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I mean, get what you need. I'm not shaving anyone,
but I just don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I mean it's because then you have to in your
mind eat it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah it's a picture. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
The first time someone told me that is like a
fun aside in conversation. I was devastated for like eight
months or I just like they do what? I'm sorry?
What wild?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Thanks for listening and guys and writing your stories.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Please, yes, we love your stories. Thank you so much.
Stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Good Bye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
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Speaker 1 (19:29):
Our senior producers are Alle Hundra Keck and Molly Smith.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
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Speaker 1 (19:33):
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Speaker 2 (19:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
We haven't done this in a while, a while. It
feels like it's been six months. Let's really do it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's do it for real. Though you want to go first,
I would.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Like to if you would please let me. This is
a good one. I'm going to read you the subject line.
The subject line is my godfather was a Zodiac suspect.
Is this familiar?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Not yet?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay, Hey, bestiees. I was born in Valeo, California.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We met her at the.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
We met this person in line in the VIP meet
and greet line at our Oakland show.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
She was like no, no, no, no. We were like send
it in, send it in.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Molly pulled it and here we are. Hey, Bestias.
I was born in Valeo, California, and my dad's side
of the family has deep roots there in parentheses and
some good connections to Sonoma County. Hi, Karen, we already
said hi. My dad was my original murder. You know.
He was obsessed with the jfk assassination and the Zodiac Killer,
and he passed that fascination right down to me. I
(01:23):
remember reading Robert Graysmith's Zodiac when I was about thirteen. Yes,
that's how it always happens. My dad graduated from Valao
High in the early sixties and I loved asking him
what it was like living there during the Zodiac years.
He said he actually was acquainted with a few of
the Valeo victims and clearly remembered the fear and the
buzz around town. I mean, in Satyrifine. One day, his friend,
(01:48):
let's call him Joe, who would later become my godfather,
called him and said, Hey, the Solano County Sheriff is
running ballistics on every registered nine millimeter in the county
and asked me to bring mine in. Do you want
to bring into Not wanting to miss out on history,
my dad said sure, so they brought their guns in
for testing. While my dad was waiting in the hall,
(02:08):
he asked an officer, are you really calling everyone with
a registered nine millimeter? And the guy goes, oh, no,
your buddy in there, he's a suspect.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
This woman told us this like as she was walking away,
and we were like, oh, wait, wait, what are you
talking about. Apparently Joe matched the physical description, stocky build,
short hair, dark framed, glasses, a bit of a loner,
and a military background. Needless to say, Joe was not
thrilled to hear someone had reported it. Yeah, the fear.
(02:40):
A little while later, my godfather was woken up in
the middle of the night by the sheriff knocking on
his door asking to come in. Thinking fast, he called
a lawyer friend who told him not to let him
in without a warrant. And that was that. No arrest,
no follow up, no mention of him anywhere in the
Zodiac books or documentaries, so I'm guessing they didn't have
much on him. I actually grew up in the same
(03:01):
house my dad did in Valleo. That'd be cool. Most
of the neighbors had been there for decades and they
all knew each other. Fun fact, Arthur Lee Allen, the
longtime Zodiac suspect, lived just two blocks away.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Holy shit.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
One of my neighbors told me that before he was
a known suspect, he once invited her over to see
his knife collection.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
She said something about him made her so uncomfortable she
left almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, because he's the Zodiac killer.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He's the Zodiac killer, and you have a system set
up in your body to tell you know that. As
for my godfather Joe, he never did anything truly suspicious.
Over the years they all had their eye on him.
He was quirky, sure, but apparently not enough to stop
my recovering Catholic parents from making him my godfather some
years later. My dad passed away over a decade ago,
(03:52):
and Joe about five years ago. I really thought one
of them might drop a deathbed confession, but no. Dice
loved seeing you at the Oak. Lad. I'm late to
the MFM party, but have been binging for three years
and still catching up. I love that you can be
late to a party like from three years ago. Yeah
that's pretty Yeah that parties law. Love to you both
(04:13):
and thank you for everything you do. Stay sexy and
don't get suspected.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Christina, Wow, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's a giddy well.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I have a true crime one middle school wolf in
sheep's clothing. It's called Hey friend, Arenos. Oh, I am
my best friend.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Bean.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Love your podcast and have become so much more aware
of our surroundings since we started listening in twenty seventeen.
We know how much you love a personal serial killer experience.
So let's get started.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Love is the incorrect word, but awesome right also hiben hiben.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We grew up just outside of Poughkeepsie, and they wrote
it phonetically, but I know Poughkeepsie, New York, and attended
Arlington Middle School from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eight.
Kendall francois nicknamed Stinky for very clear reasons our hall
monitor during that period. He was a huge intimidating man
who took pleasure in giving out too many detentions, especially
(05:07):
to girls. Picture it. I was naive, sheltered eleven years old,
with a bob haircut because my mom didn't have time
to deal with knots, wearing dusty pink corduroy overalls and
a brown floral long sleeve shirt. Bean was my very
best friend, also a nave sheltered sixth grader, wearing brown
overalls with a tan polyester short sleeve shirt, cucumber melon
body spray, and Claire's accessories. It was the nineties, after all.
(05:31):
We were going about our day and walking to lunch
when Stinky stopped us, claiming we were late to lunch.
Late to lunch, I ask, how can you be late
to lunch? We were both really good kids. But while
I had a tendency to verbally stand up against any
and all perceived injustices, Being, on the other hand, was
afraid of everything still is. Actually, she shares your fear
(05:52):
of moths, Karen. I once had a beat one to
death with a flip flop while she lost her shit
cowering in a corner. She tells me every time it's
the fluttering that freaks her out.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's very true. The audio is not great on those so.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Of course, Well, I'm challenging Stinky and asking how one
can possibly be late to lunch not a class dude.
Bean takes off running, leaving me to serve my lunch
detention alone. It was the longest thirty minutes of my
eleven year old life with who we now know was
an incredibly creepy, an active serial killer who raped and
strangled eight plus women from nineteen ninety six to nineteen
(06:28):
ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I didn't know that. I didn't recognize that name.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
No, I looked it up.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's just, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
From that moment on, I avoided Stinky like the plague,
ditching into bathrooms and classrooms whenever I saw him heading
my way At the beginning of eighth grade, Stinky was
apprehended after neighbors complained about the terrible stench coming from
his family's home. The next few months brought trials and
discoveries and at least eight dead women, many of whom
were sex workers. The missing women had been stored in
(06:54):
and around Stinky's house that he lived in with his parents.
He was sentenced to life in prison without parole and
die in prison of twenty fourteen of quote natural causes.
Fast forward thirty ish years later, and Bean and I
are still best friends. She's my person. Over the many
years we've been friends, we've learned to accept each other's
limitations and embrace our strengths. But she will never live down,
(07:14):
leaving me with Stinky in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh my god, Right, the person writing this letter always
gets to pick the restaurant. Oh definitely, I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Just like just has to give her one look, stay sexy,
and it all costs avoid the serial killer.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
In the hallway. Lauren and Bean.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Lauren and Bean, I mean, god damn it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
In the school, and he was called stinky because he
always smelled, like everyone called him that and like you're
like suspicious, weird, creepy feelings about this person turn out
to be more than true.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, the worst possible person.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh God, Well, here's another real one, real hometown. But
the subject line is I was a dairy princess and
my mother connection to a double murder. Hello MFM, Humans
and Creatures. I was listening to Karen's story from episode
one ninety about the murderous dairy Princess, and I thought
i'd write in and talk about my own experience of
(08:12):
being dairy royalty. When I was seventeen, I made the
dairy princess of my county, and for one year I
was the face of the dairy business in my area,
spending my time talking about the importance of calcium and
to school children, handing out awards for best in show,
eating far too much ice cream, and even once participating
(08:32):
in a hand milking contest at the local fair. Rehaps,
it's so country, I love it. This position has been
around for years. In fact, my own mother was also
the dairy princess. Oh she's from a dynasty and was
the one who strong armed me into competing for the title.
My mother did scare the living shit out of my
grandparents because they at one point believed that she had
(08:55):
been the victim of a murder, and then in parentheses
it says spoiler alert, she lived so. On January eleventh,
nineteen seventy nine, two young university students in Bellingham, Washington,
named Karen Mandick and Diane Wilder were lured to a
secluded home by Kenneth Beyonce, one part of the Hillside Stranglers.
(09:15):
He raped and strangled both women before leaving their bodies
stuffed in the backseat of a car. In nineteen seventy nine,
my mother was nineteen years old, worked at a restaurant
in Bellingham and shared the same last name as one
of the victims. On the night that the murders took place,
my rebel of a mother decided to skip going home
after her shift at the restaurant and instead went to
(09:37):
her boyfriend's house without informing her parents of what she
was doing. When my mom failed to arrive home that night,
my grandparents shrugged it off, but when she still wasn't
home a full twenty four hours later, my grandma brought
it up to her friend, who was a clerk with
the sheriff's apartment. This friend informed my grandma that she
had seen my mother's last name on a victim report
(09:58):
and that my grandma needed to call the police a meeting. Instead,
my tough as nail's grandmother got into her car and
drove directly to the police station, and, according to her,
caused such a ruckus in the front lobby that the
two officers had to physically restrain her from trying to
shove her way past the front desk. Once she'd calmed down,
the police explained to her that no, her daughter was
(10:19):
not the victim, but that she could file a missing
person's report. My mom eventually went back to her own house,
where my grandparents promptly grounded her for scaring them to
high heavens, and my mom wasn't allowed to drive herself
to work again for the next four months. Kenneth Bianchi
was found, questioned and charged, and eventually sentenced to life
imprisonment in the Washington State Penitentiary, where he still is today.
(10:42):
When I was a teenager, my mother and I lived
with my grandparents, and whenever my mom would start complaining
about how hard it was to parent a teenage girl,
my grandma would loudly exclaim, remember the time you made
me believe that you are a murder victim. This is
what you deserve.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Dang.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Ways, always remember to stay sexy and maybe don't stay
so long at your boyfriend's house, cat.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Or at least call home.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I mean, I'm yelling at myself back then, right in
the future, because I totally did that shit too.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, I did the thing where you tell them
they're going one place and then you go a different
peace and then they call your friend to who your friends, like,
I don't know you're talking.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, that was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I mean, like, really, it's one of the reasons I
don't want kids, is case that shit happens all the
time and you lose your mind over and over again,
and they don't care.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
No, they just I didn't care. No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's like you don't even know what the big deal is.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, calm down, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Hopefully this podcast is letting the young people know what
their parents are actually worried about, right in the worst
way possible.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I'm saying, we're telling them in the worst way possible.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We are.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
She thought she was crazy until I told her what
the psychic said. Hello from Canada. A few years ago,
I met with the psychic. During my reading, the psychic
connected with my father, who had passed away and I
was two. I didn't tell the psychic anything about me.
She didn't even know my name. I was skeptical at
the beginning of this reading, and I didn't want to
give anything away to see if she was legit. She
relayed things my dad wanted me to know, one being quote,
(12:12):
your dad wants you to tell your mom that it
was him, and.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They're called orbs.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I had no idea what she meant by that and
shrugged it off until a few days later when I
was telling my mom about the experience with the psychic.
When I told her my dad's comment, my mom got
tears in her eyes and looked stunned. She began to
explain to me that she had never told anyone this
because she thought she was seeing things and didn't want
anyone to think she was crazy. I know, I got
choked up when I read this.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Here's her story.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
My dad had just died in a snowmobile accident. My
mom gave birth to my brothers three weeks after this,
and I was two at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Can you, oh, amagine God, you're grieving.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You're grieving and you have to tend a newborn.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And a two year old. Two year olds were yes.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
She was devastated and struggling to take care of two
babies by herself. One night, my grandma Arlene offered to
take me for the night, so my mom would just
have to take care of one baby so she could
hopefully get some rest. My brother was very colicky and
she had finally gotten him settled. She had just laid
down when he began to cry again. At this point,
my mom broke down, crying and screaming in her bedroom,
(13:24):
feeling so overwhelmed. Suddenly, my brother stopped crying. My mom
looked down the hallway in my brother's bedroom and saw
these floating light balls going up and down over my
brother's crib. My brother was mesmerized by them, which stopped
him from crying, and they eventually soothed him back to sleep.
(13:45):
I've heard a lot of great stories about my dad
over the years, and everyone always says he had the
kindest soul. I'd like to think that my dad continues
to show kindness to us on earth and help us
when he can. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
SSDGM RAINA ps I went to your show in Boston
and delivered some Canadian KitKat to Vince after the show.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I hope you got them. We did, We did pps.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I tried American kit cats while in Boston and they
are truly trash.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
She loves it. Oh my kin, my god.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Also, I love like there's nothing better than a psychic
story where the person can say I never told anyone that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Totally you can prove a psychic was right. Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I love those like the psychic that told my sister
be careful of gluten. And it was when Nora was
like four years old, right, And then she went on
to Chsiliacs.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Tell us right as please, if you have any psychic experiences,
good or bad. Yes, the good or the badder the better.
My favorite murderer gmail.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
A psychic that got proved right or the worst psychic.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I want those ones too. That happened at my mom.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
She was devastated when she found out she was scammed.
Oh yeah, okay, my last one. And it just says
my dad Forrest gump Hi there. Growing up, all of
my friends were convinced that my dad was in the CIA.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yet right to it. It was a funny joke. Sometimes
actually believed as he was Stoic Stern and was usually
seen wearing a full suit, while his actual profession was
way less interesting. His life has not been As a child,
he grew up across the street from Paul Cox aka
the Blackout Murderer Georgia covered quite some time ago. Oh,
(15:28):
one of his brothers was and is close with the family.
Do you remember that one?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Not'ro off the top of my head. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There have been so many.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Murders, this joke has gone on.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This joke itself has gone on for too long. Fast
forward to when he was in his early twenties living
in NYC. My dad and his friend were pulled over
car searched on one of the knights that son of
Sam struck in Queen's Keeping it in in Why my
dad bore witness to and survived nine to eleven. I've
never felt luckier than when I was able to watch
(15:58):
my dad walk through the door of my childhood home
that day.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh, oh Jesus, so sad. Yeah, so sad.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
That's like we're still unpacking nine to eleven, and then
and we're doing this stuff that's happening.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now, totally collective trauma.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, so it's just piling up, you know, but more
people in therapy now, sure, Okay, still in n why.
He was also witnessed to Sully landing the plane in
what as if the nine to eleven experience wasn't trauma
enough for one lifetime. Sixteen years later, he came to
visit me when I was on a work trip in Vegas.
(16:35):
If you can guess where this is headed, yep, we
happened to be there during the Harvest Festival shooting all
caps staying in the hotel room next to the shooter.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That feels to me like an email filled with lies,
because that's insane. Oh okay. It's always been an inside
joke with my family that my dad is in fact
a real life for his gump. He is also the
most compassionate, strong, badass dad a woman could ask for.
Love your pod, Thank you for keeping me company in
(17:09):
my neurotic thoughts for all these years. Love Sam, Sam, Sam, Wow, Sam,
I want more details.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I like, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Did they go out to some weird thing to look
at Vegas and come back and they're like the entire
like all of this is closed down.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I mean, like or did they hear the gunshots through
the wall. Oh they're there. That's so fucking scary.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh that's so horrible.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Okay, here's my last one is quick PSA for all
the murderino moms to be And I just loved this,
Hi all, I wanted to share a small way to
give back to victims and their families that most aren't
too familiar with. Pregnant mothers can donate their placentas to
the training of cadaver dogs. The human tissue needed to
train the dogs can be costly for these organizations, and
(17:55):
a donation can go a very long way in training
multiple animals.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I googled I'm searching recovery groups in my area and
just asked them if they were interested in a donation.
Then I told the hospital staff and brought a small
cooler to my birth. The nurses and doctors were very
helpful and I took home a baby and a placenta
at the end of it. Then the search and recovery
team were able to pick it up from me and
I got to meet the dogs who would be benefiting
from my donation.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So stay sexy and donate your placenta.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Lauren Lauren. I mean it's like way to go. I know,
you've invented a whole new way to help. That's incredible,
that's really smart.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Also, you know some people eat the place.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We're not talking about that today. That's not what we're
talking about. Just crime, not murderinos. Yeah, I can bury
them for cadaver dogs, but I can't talk about it,
Santa Taco.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
We're not talking about hippie moms trying to get those vitamins.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I mean, get what you need. I'm not shaving anyone,
but I just don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I mean it's because then you have to in your
mind eat it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah it's a picture. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
The first time someone told me that is like a
fun aside in conversation. I was devastated for like eight
months or I just like they do what? I'm sorry?
What wild?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Thanks for listening and guys and writing your stories.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Please, yes, we love your stories. Thank you so much.
Stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Good Bye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Our senior producers are Alle Hundra Keck and Molly Smith.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Our editor is ARISTOTLEL s Veda.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
This episode was mixed by Leoni Spolacci.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Email your hometowns to My Favorite Murder at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And follow the show on Instagram at my Favorite Murder.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Listen to My Favorite Murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
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Speaker 1 (19:45):
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bye
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Georgia Hardstark
Karen Kilgariff
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