February 15, 2022 • 55 mins
Is all your technology watching you? Langston and his guest Amanda Seales (Small Doses Podcast and Insecure) observe this digital age conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I just bugged Janice, and Janice now made it so
that I'm I'm an enemy to my own communie. It's
enemy of the state, but with like a slap like
Chris Red what what what? Just a sillier version of honestly,
(00:23):
a better version, let's disagree, a better version of If
enemy of the state is just a silly my being,
let let me out. I ain't do nothing. My crop
chips in yours are racist money martial man interning stuff.
(00:53):
Can't tell me yep, yup, yup, there it is there
it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode
of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep,
deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we
finally work to prove that Kanye is just wearing them
(01:15):
rain boots everywhere because he is a recent inductee to
the billionaire class and he's preparing for the impending apocalyptic
flood which will doom us all that is. That's a fact.
I think that's a pretty solid fact. This nigga is
rainboot Noah Ark prepared for what's coming our way. You
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know who else is prepared? You know who else I
don't know that she wears rainboots everywhere she goes, but
she is prepared for all that faces us. She she's
she's my guest. Today's so funny, it's very talented. You
know her from from her HBO special call I've you know,
and you know her from her Patreon Smart funny and black,
(01:56):
amazing comedian, amazing actress. Please give it up from my guest,
miss a Man to see what a doubt you know.
I just realized we didn't mention, like we even say
why we know each other? Oh yeah, well how did we?
We met? Years ago? In stand up? I met you,
(02:16):
I believe, and correct me if you feel like this
is not true. I met you, I think during the
stand Up NBC competition the the I think, did you
in New York? In New York we did the semi
for Sam, Yes, the same year that Sam did it.
And yeah, that's that's when I first met you. Yes, really,
(02:40):
that is the closest I have to a memory. And
then I think the rest of it all kind of
bleeds together. We're just doing comedy scene and then obviously
insecure sort of like uh, you know, yeah, huh, You're
staring up at the sky as if to say bullshit,
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I don't. It's not just that first of all, that
seems like that was another existence, you know, I mean,
aside from the fact that we've been in a pandemic
that literally feels like what was that my life? Yeah,
I gotta look at my journals. Yes, I mean for
for the people that are unaware of what Stand Up
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NBC is, It was the diversity program that NBC was
putting together to get like black voices and diverse voices
added to the community. But then they made a bunch
of niggas stand in line overnight so that they could
then audition for a minute in front of mostly white people.
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So it was because then it got changed to diversity
end inclusion. Yea. Then it was like, it's not enough
for it to be black folks. You can be white
and gay. That's fine, right, Oh, y'all can sit in
a tent and uh wait to to try your best
in front of these people who don't really watch stand yeah,
yeah yeah. And then you do a semifinal in front
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of a bunch more people don't really watch stand up.
And I remember the person who like won the night
per se was a sister, but all her jokes were
like can you believe black people do this? And I
remember being like, wow, I hate this a lot, doing
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like a generic African accent. She you know what if
I recall she had made a joke that was like
my dad is like mufassa or something like that, and
I was like, do do that? Come on, now, that's
not the African animals you canna anyway? So well, you know,
and here we are, here we are, but you're here
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today and I couldn't be more excited because you came.
I think with the conspiracy theory that's been sitting on
our plate for a while, untouched, I think you are
the first to want to take on such a haunting task,
I guess. And you said, my mama told me all
of your technology is watching you. You know. I dated
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somebody actually who was on Secure and he would not
converse in the room where A t like he felt
like the TV was always watching you. WHOA the TV?
Anything with a screen, he felt like it was watching you.
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And the camera wasn't a factor here. It was the
screen that was more essential. It started with the camera
and I was like sure, right, and then it became
the mic on the phone, right, So I was like, okay,
and then it became the computer, and then it became
the TV. And then I was like, are you paranoid schizophrenic?
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Because this is like real because I had I had
dated recipes down, but like I had dated a brother
in college who like he had started similar rhetoric and
I told his dad and his dad was like, o't
like the way that sounds. And it turned out that
he ended up having a like catch a break and
he was a parent of a schizophrenic. And it was
it started with me saying to him, what up and
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he would he would respond chilling like the fens al right,
well wait a minute, because that's just a good answer,
you know. That's what I thought. That's what I thought,
And then what do you want him? And I just
thought it was like a quippy like maybe it was
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a rap lyric that I didn't know. And then we
were like on the train one time, going like the
first time we took the train to the city for
like a date, because when we went to school at
Suny Purchase and we took the train into the city
and he was like, I started saying something and he
was like, they're listening, but you know what. It really
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is a testament to black women because I was just like,
all right, so he doesn't like talking on the train, right, Okay,
that's now I understand. Now I know him a little better.
He let me in. Yeah, I'm gonna support my my
quiet trained king. You know what I mean. I'm a
I'm a whole in down because because we ain't gonna
do that on the train. So these things I feel
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like I'm not fully committed. Yeah, they were amount around
me enough to where I just have a you know,
there is a residual awareness of like is that you
watching me? Yeah? So would you say then that that
individual that you dated was the first person to at
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least introduce this concept to you or were you like
already you know, pulse finger on the pulse before that
he was the first to like have empirical evidence, you know,
like he was like he was the first to show
me like seeing look what just came up in mind? Boone?
Why is it showing me that? Why is it showing
me that? And I was like, oh my god, is
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it showing And you know, and then like um, people,
I feel like this conversation happened somewhere else and someone
had mentioned like, oh, well, if you do this, you know,
turn off this thing and turn off your mic. Like
you have to like put your settings a certain way
so that the man, right, you know, don't send the
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pale horse to Yeah. Yeah, and hey that's how they
get that's how they get you. I agree. You you
do have to track your settings, be aware of of
sort of what you're allowing into the space. And and
maybe perhaps they won't be listening. But but two more
to the point that these people who you who you
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were seeing at a time, we're saying, even with those
setting choices, government still listening. But my thing was like,
so what we're gonna do? You know, what's the what's
the workaround? Like just honest when we're not on set,
you know, like what yeah, that's always my concern is, like, hey, bro,
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not for nothing. We live in l a you know
what I mean, Like, this is not Montana. And if
if you're saying let's move to Montana and build fires there,
I can make a choice. But if you are saying
we are going to continue to live this l a
ass lifestyle and eat sweet green, well guess what I
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think my phone is just gonna have to hear everything
I'm saying, yeah, like I just got I just had
to get. I mean I distinctly remember like us like
we had eaten inedible and it turned up. Yeah, the
paranoia turned up. And he was like, I was like
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holding my phone that are you according me? Are you
according me? And I was like, no, I'm not recording you.
I was, but I was like a fence. This is
this he was saying something hilarious. I was recording it.
I was like, okay, I'm not I'm not recording you.
And he was like it doesn't matter anyway. There everything,
They recording everything. Because that that's when I goes to
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another level, is when the person starts addressing Oh I
know y'all see me. Yeah, I know y'all hear what
the funk I'm saying, Oh okay, now I see where
you're feeling. Like this takes the shift from just paranoid
to a type of psychosis, is that this isn't just
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a person, because like I'll admit, there are plenty of
times where I'm like, man, this camera still on. I
know the green Lighting show on, but I think motherfucker's watching.
But I don't I don't go what what do you
work from me? You sick fox? Like I'm not addressing them.
I go to bed. I'm like, hey, take a peek.
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Did you see something? Say something? You know what I mean.
But at the end of the day, like I mean, okay,
So I just saw that reporters at the Beijing Games
are using burner phones because they don't want to somehow
have an opportunity for China to put some type of
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tracking device or tracer or copier in their phone when
they leave, So they're they're using burner phones that they
can dispose of when they leave. And I'm just like,
it's I didn't know China espionage was really on it
like that, Like, but I just was like, wow, like
that feels very extreme something. But somebody had to have
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made them feel like this is a matter of national security. Yeah,
to your point, it does. It is concerning, right, if
nothing else, when you're sitting and looking at a situation
where like a government because obviously I think these journalists
are functioning at least from some version of direction from
the American government or whatever they're they're overseeing government is
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to use these burner phones, which means that y'all are
playing weird government games that like, even if you're not
doing it to us, you have the potential to do
it to us, and you're not. You're not saying that,
and that's fucked up because it's it's like when someone
accuses you of some ship that you wouldn't do and
it's like, oh, but you would do that, You would
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do that, that's why you accuse you would. So they
like China do that, and it's like, how you know,
y'all already try y'all try to Yeah, y'all doing it. Yeah,
y'all do that to people. And uh, maybe it's not
the mass public. If if we if we wanted to
give the government any grace, you know how we love
giving the government. You know why we do it to
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feel to ourselves feel better. That's why that Like I
the other day said when Martin Luther King passed away,
and I had to catch myself like right correction, when
he was assassinated, he didn't go out of here without
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you know what I mean, Like this wasn't Yeah, there
was no he didn't diet on the bed around surrounded
by his loved ones like he should have. But I
feel like that was like a Freudian government grace moment.
And I think that that even if we were to
give them some of that grace, it isn't Maybe you're
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not doing it to everybody, but you're doing it, and
you have the potential to do it to more people.
And that's what makes this paranoia so easily accessible. Well
remember Wiki leaks, I mean that was the other thing, right,
Like my mom, My mom was very big to wikilis
um like a fan, just a fans, just very involved
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in the whole scenario of things. And you know Snowdon
You know, Snowdon really letting them an it. He's really
letting them have it. And I was just like, I
feel like you think you're in on something that other
people aren't in on. Like that's what always comedy about
my mom in these situations, like you're getting the same
information as everyone else. But she's like, so let me
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tell you what's happening. You don't have like you're reading it,
but you're not reading it the way I'm reading it.
So I'll explain it to you. Your dumb ass, I
got you. I'm just like, you don't have like a
higher security clearance than WikiLeaks. But that was the whole
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real thing that I think set a lot of people off,
you know, the WikiLeaks of it all, because at the
end of the day, that's what it was. It was
him realizing that the n s A was tapping people's
phones and and you know at will right, like, not
even for just any reason, but just because they had
created the capability to do so, and they were just
playing around. And in that case, just so that we're
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making it clear, the n s A was tapping preferred phones,
they weren't tapping all phones. At least that's the argument
that's being made, or at least Snowdon's argument, which is
always the source of truth. Okay, So then the way
I understood it was that what makes it a preferred phone,
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whatever they decide, is a reason for them to need
to hear your ship, which is dangerous, right because at
the end of the day, their decision making is it's
a person still making. If they don't like something I've said,
or are uncomfortable with a choice I've made publicly, they
can start to tap my phone under the guise of
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protecting American civilians, when in fact I might just be
annoying to a lady in an office I'm just picturing
that film like where someone gets arrested and like thrown
in the back of a black van because they were
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thought to be dangerous. And they're just the office prick,
but not even pricked the office twerk like they're just
they just they just said the wrong words in order. Right,
Let me ask you this before we go to break you.
You said you are not all in on this conspiracy theory.
You're not fully invested. Tell me help me get a
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where you are in it. It's not that I'm not
fully invested. I think the better way to say is that,
like I guess in my mind fully invested me as
I'm also like using actions to combat it. Oh, you know,
like and I'm just I I think I've just accepted it,
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right because I don't genuine they feel I can do
anything like they have like these VPN things that you
can put to like stop your IP address, but I
and I had one like that that like advertised on
my podcast Small Doses where you can listen to anywhere podocasted. Uh,
we don't do no cross advertisements. No, no cut that
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Olivia cut it, cut it. No, it's fine, but well
they like where they like advertise on my podcast while
doses and I was like, Oh, I get to use
this for a year for free. Great, But then when
the subscription ran out, it was like, well that's the
So that's the crazy thing. Even with like these VPNs
and the other things that you can download to theoretically
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protect yourself from whatever's watching, is you still are paying
a corporation to to access this service. And in theory,
that corporation has other corporate friends that they want to
to provide the information too. So it's like, is this
protecting me or is that just a slight You know,
when they give you those aluminum covers after you run
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a race. We're like, I don't think that's gonna keep
me warm. The way y'all saying it is this this
aeems like bullshit. But when we come back, I want
to talk about how this also extends to like how
Facebook was tracing us. Yes, I actually think that's a
perfect throw for us to to walk out on because
because as my listeners know, we come back with research,
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and I have a fair amount of research. I'd love
to impact with you about Facebook and they're devious choices sucking.
All Right, We're gonna take a break, We'll be back
with more, am And this feels and more, my mama
told me, and we all, yeah, we're back here with more.
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Amanda steels more. My mama told me. We're still talking
about the possibility that your technology is watching your ass
at all times, just listening, checking in on you. Why
you're you're doing your nasty ship and you know the
nasty ship that you do person listening at home, you
know why you're yucky anyway, So tell me a little
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bit about what you know, Amanda, because we left off here,
what you know about the Facebook intrusions. Let's say I
can't remember the name of the doc, but I had
seen this documentary on Netflix that just, I mean it
threw me off for like a good two weeks because
it really spoke about the specifically about how these internets
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were used to swathe elections, and it was this It
was presented in such a what's the word I'm looking for,
just there was no theory. It was what, yes, social dilemma, Yes,
thank you, the social dilemma. And it was just very
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matter of fact. This wasn't theoretical, This wasn't like, you know,
we we put things together and it seems like this
is the case. It was like no, no, yeah, what happened.
This is how it happened, and let's talk about it.
And that is when I'm like, oh wow, okay, so
so I don't so I like help this man get lefted.
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So the craziest thing with the social dilemma, to your point,
is that it's it's sort of being presented by a
bunch of people who built the algorithms and are like
in charge of the way that they move and shake,
and so it's not them going like, well we think
this is a possibility, or like no, no, no no, I
wrote the code so that this would happen. And I
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would never let my children around any of these sapps.
It is dangerous ship and we feel real bad about it.
That's why we're talking to you now, directors of said film.
That right there, when the guy was like, I would
never let my kids around this, this is I mean,
we just saw some lady come out and then go
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real quiet about how it's proven that like Facebook and
these apps are deleterious to our social structure, to the minds,
to mental health, etcetera. And yet we it's an addiction
and they play on that. I am absolutely addicted. Yeah,
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and and and we're in a business now that's also
made it a critical part for a lot of people
to engage in if they want to be in certain spaces.
So it's like, even if you aren't addicted, like you
still have to somehow be a part of it. And
it's it's it's just it's frustrating. Yeah, no, it's it's
a it's a gross aim. We're all sort of trapped
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in of being both like we need the thing. I
need the thing to some extent for people to know
I exist out in the world as an entertainer. That's
that is my livelihood to some extent. But then on
top of that, I feel yucky every time I have
to access one of these apps and and beg for
attention in these spaces, and even scarier, the attention I'm
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getting or giving might be something I didn't even intend.
Oh man, that's the story of my life. I got
in trouble the other day of some ship I didn't
even say. I was just there. God said ship, And
they're like a mad steel was present when this thing
said this ship. And I'm like, God did it? But
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was you having fun? Because that's how you get in trouble.
I was putting on lipstick, I was literally putting out
lives and I was just talking away and I was like,
I was like, best of intentions, best of attentions, and
people are like a seal disgust saying and I'm like,
if I don't say nothing, how is it discussing? Damn?
But I think there's really like I mean, so I
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started Patreon because I was trying to find I started Patreon.
We started a newsletter because I was trying to like
find ways to extend off of the Instagram of it
all because I was getting shadow Band. I'm still getting
shadow band, Like they really just in there. So after
Facebook and Instagram got addressed by I guess Congress about
their role in stealing people's information and you know, and
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really pushing the trump of it all, they now became
like hyper vigilant about I feel like se questions about
like sequestering anything that can influence the direction that folks thinking.
So you're a thought leader, and you like, have I
want to talk about this? I wanna, I wanna, I
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want to get what's what's it called? I want to
talk talk Okay, let me let me keep you up
you're ready, You're I'm you know, when you have a
platform that has a bunch of people on it, you're
going to of course have people that become thought leaders,
people that are going to take the truth and you know,
articulated to the masses through their own opinions. And by
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nature of that, there's gonna be people who start listening.
That's just the way it happens, you know, with Jesus
and my Mother, It's gonna happen on the app. And
the frustrating part though, is that these algorithms can't tell
the difference between who's telling the truth and who is
just telling ship. And so what it does is it
silence is the folks whose voices actually have to be heard.
And it's so incredibly frustrating because even when you get
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the actual human beings and these apps, they're so committed
to the algorithm of it all that they don't even
have the ability to discern like, oh, this is the truth,
this isn't. And that's how you have apps that are
letting people say all niggas must die. They're not shutting
that down. But when someone says, like, hey, maybe you
all should get vaccinated, they're like, wrong, information, and it's like,
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how do you create something that's supposed to be for
social growth but you're shutting down any level of elevation.
M M yeah, it's it's to that point, and I
think it's an important one for us to address. Even
with the influencing the the elections, right, it truly wasn't
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this like crazy infiltration that we sort of built it
up to be. It was just motherfucker's writing some wild
ship and then people amplifying the wild ship. So it
wasn't we were susceptible. It's not like they brainwashed us.
They just showed us wild ship and we were like,
I'm gonna listen to that wild ship. And so in
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that way, the way that their course correcting is by
calling everything wild ship and some of it's not wild
And maybe y'all just need to have more of an
analytical I I guess in determining like is this honest
or is this just somebody talking crazy for the sake
of changing the way that our our government works. So,
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like I use the vaccine example because someone saying, hey,
maybe you should get vaccinated is to me very benign.
They're not saying like you need to get vaccinated they're
not saying you're killing everybody. They're making a suggestion based
on their opinion. Sure, you should be able to do
that on your page without them being like, no one
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gets to see your page now. Yeah. But and this
is this will be a good segue into a lot
of what I sort of found in the research, is
that it seems to be born out of corporate interest,
right that like at the end of the day, when
there was a point in this pandemic, for example, where
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you said you should get vaccinated, and we all went, yeah, yeah,
that's that's right. Yeah, And then at some point there
was a shift where we some people were like, no,
shut the funk up. And then there was an additional shoot.
And that's the additional shift where it was like your brainwashed,
and we all were debating whether or not vaccinations were effective,
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whether or not they made a difference in the way
that we survived this thing. And and to some extent,
they are more complicated than they were originally presented, but
they're not nearly as dangerous as a bunch of people
want us to believe. But because those people still pay
for these these lights to stay on, they're going to
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entertain both sides of the argument at all times. So
what you're saying is that by nature of the argument
taking place, that the argument is what helps keep the
lights on. I'm saying that advertisers don't know the difference
between an anti vaxer and a pro vaxer, and so
in that way, they still get paid and they're not
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kicking people off simply because they don't like their language.
I mean, you know, it's funny because you have said
earlier about like how it's like if you want to
move to Montana and and you know, build fires, and
that's a round that you can go, and that's how
it feels like I have to deal with the Internet
at this point. I feel like Patreon is me trying
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to move to Mantana, Montana, and like, y'all give me
five dollars so I can build this fire, you know.
Like I had actually started an app. I had created
an app during the pandemic called SFB Society for the
purpose of like let's have a space where there are
no trolls, let's have a space where people can actually
have discourse, you know, And and then there was like
a fight on the app one day when this woman
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was like I will put you ahead to the curb
and and we were like, yeah, that's against our guidelines. Yeah,
I don't know, we can we can do that, baby girl.
But what we realized I ended up having to close
down the app because we couldn't. Managing a community is
way harder than in actuality than I think most people
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really really understand. Like, yes, I think that's a hundred
percent true. Into that in this I want to segue
us into some of this research, the the everything I've
read up to this point, and you take it all
with a grain of salt. It maybe real, maybe not real.
Is that they're not listening to everything that we're doing.
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Everything I've read, they're not watching everything we're doing. Yes,
I don't tell you know, Ay'm gonna tell you know
like that they're gonna say day and listen that that's
how they get you, because maybe they're not just they're
just not gonna tell us. Maybe this is this is
them just being like, no, we wouldn't do that to you, mama,
Why would you even say that? Listen. I had to
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an interview earlier to day as someone was like, you know,
do you feel like there are black factions that are
working to like change, Hollywood, etcetera, etcetera, And if so,
like who are they? And I was like, can tell
y'all right? And really I should have just said, no,
there aren't, there are none. Everything is back, you know, like,
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but it's like I don't feel like they would tell
on themselves. Yeah. So so they they claim that they
are not watching, they are not listening. Yes, your phone
is a eyeball. Yes your speakers are ears, but that
does not necessarily mean that they're listening to everything. And
part of what they say as justification for that not
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being true is that the the amount of data that
it would require for them to actually be able to
listen to everything that you're saying is so insanely large
that they we don't have the resources to compute. Moreover,
they say that the computers themselves can't actually make sense
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of the way that human beings speak enough to be
able to, like, you know, discern when they need to
turn on and when they But you see what you said,
the computers haven't been able to yet. Yeah, yeah, I
think that is a key word in all of that.
They say that because of our our addiction, because of
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our slang, because of all the different ways that that
human speeches overpacked with innu window and sarcasm. The computers
have no way of knowing what all of this means.
But part of the reason that they know that is
because they keep trying to feed our language two computers
and be like, figure this ship out, nigga, I want
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I want you to know how to talk the way
I talk, and the computer sounds like the white girl
that I encountered in two thousand and five at at
a job I was working at where I was like, yeah,
I'm by the skate because they said they're gonna bounce
in a minute. And she was like, why do you
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talk like that? I was like, what do you mean?
She was like, do you have to talk hip hop
talk all the time? Can't you speak English? Bitch? You
know what? Though to that point though, I knew a
drug dealer who said that, like the amount of slang
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in Detroit was so immense because they were always creating
language that wouldn't be identified in the tap phone situation
that you know, Like, so they were they were constantly
creating just new ways of speaking about elicit activities to
(32:28):
throw folks off the trail. And that was them just
trying to throw other human beings off the trail. If
you create new lingo every single day, the computers aren't
going to be able to like do the math to
be able to feed. That's what they're saying. I still
don't even understand what pushing P means, so I don't
know how to computer gonna figure that out. It was
(32:50):
that was an urban dictionary look up for me, And
I'm not proud to say that out loud. You know,
you want to be you want to be youthful enough
that you just like you he You're gonna say it,
and you're like, yep, and then you go on with
your day. But I was like, gonna, I don't know
what you're saying most of the time. I definitely don't
know what your Twitter is saying. So I'm gonna, I'm
(33:11):
gonna look this one up. Someone had left it as
a comment and I was like, is this a compliment?
Like I'm like, because I'm really into blocking negative comments
right now, and they were like, that ain't pushing P.
And I was like, I don't know, this is in support.
I don't know if I gotta kill you or I mean,
I just you know, Captain took me forever you know.
(33:31):
I'm glad it's still a part of the lexicon because
I finally have a grasp. But that's when I knew
I was old, when I was like, Captain, why isn't
that rolling off my tusk? It don't feel good. It
don't feel good as a thirty plus, I'm in the club, bro.
(33:53):
All right, Well, I was trying to be generous. I'm
sorry for your loss. Made the force be with you.
So here's the other thing that I thought was useful.
And this goes back to our Facebook conversation, and it
really goes back to the grander conversation at hand, right
is yes, they pent say, or at least this is
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what they claim, is that they're not listening. But there
is a history to your point about the social dilemma
of them doing funk shit with these applications. For example,
Facebook has a history of hiring outside contractors to transcribe
clips of audio from users on their services. There's another
(34:35):
thing where they store messages that users wrote out but
did not post, like some ship that you like kind
of thought, you might say, and then you backtrack on it.
Facebook saved it and they just have it available. And
there's a history of ship like this. So when you
tell me that you're not listening all the time, I
(34:58):
don't believe you, because you keep doing evil ship in
other directions. That the part that you just said about
them keeping drafts, that's trippy. No, no, and let's be clear,
not even drafts, because drafts you are saving for future use.
(35:19):
They're saying they saved when you talk type something out,
so it's an auto save. It's like and you were like, no, no, no,
I'm better than this. You're not. And Facebook has evidence
of it forever. Mhm, you know, I think. So we're
at a time where I feel like people have really
tapped into their darkness and are like, you know what,
(35:40):
I'm gonna choose. I'm gonna choose darkness. Like that feels
a lot more prevalent than ever in than ever in
my lived experience, Like I feel like we all have darkness,
but for most of my life it feels like the
consensus was, yeah, but that ain't cool, so don't go there, right,
But now it feels like they're like folks like fucking
(36:01):
I'm out here, I'm trash, I'm trying, you know, and
like are just like tapping into that, and it fox
with my perfectionism because it makes me feel like my
only counter to that is to try to be like
a flawless human, which is not possible game to be playing.
And so when you hear about something like that, you're
(36:23):
just like, damn, so so they've tracked even what I
caught myself and did better. But we also know for
a fact that we are in this crazy scenario of
a We are in a giant gladiator ring on a
regular basis where folks are waiting to see like, I
know you wasn't ship. I knew it. And it's just
(36:45):
wild to hear that they have like weaponry like that
against anyone who's used their app. They're app and and
theoretically maybe they do nothing with this, right, maybe it
truly is just them like trying to teach a computer speech,
or maybe it's some thing that even if they didn't
plan on doing something with, someone might be able to
hack access I expose you forward your choices, even if
(37:09):
that wasn't Facebook's plan necessarily, it's all scary ship. It's like,
you know, when is something When are they going to
handle your rest all of us and be like here's
some ship that you did and yeah, Yeah, what's that
minority report? We ain't that far from whatever that energy is.
(37:29):
The last thing I'll tell you before we go to
break is that I I additionally wanted to sort of
look into that tendency or that thing that happens where
you talk about something in a room and then suddenly
your phone is showing you ads for the thing and
you're like, what the funk? My phone clearly had to
be listening to me, And they claim that that is
(37:52):
not the case. That is absolutely the case. There's no
other there's no world where that's not the case. I'm
gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you what the
Internet told me, and you you, you tell me where
you land in all of this. They actually say that
because of the way that these ads work and because
of the way that everything works, it's more a issue
of probability than it is an issue of them listening,
(38:15):
that the likelihood of you seeing the thing that you
were just talking about is one in a million. But
because they show you so many things all the time,
and because human beings have a tendency to notice patterns,
they we create connections that may not necessarily be as
immediate as we think they are you're already shaking your
(38:35):
head now because that's light aluminatim So I have my
body like secret society trying to keep on me like
that is a complete gaslight, because I like, I could
see that if it was generic, but it's not like
there are so for instance, a perfect example is that
(38:57):
I am now a homeowner. There are so many conversations
that I'm having for the first time all the time, right,
like they're not a part of my regular lexicon. Like
I never said h vat before August onest, two thousand
and twenty two, two thousand one. So there's no trend
(39:20):
for the technology to be pulling from to randomly show
me this conversation around pool solar panels. Sure, however, me
and my man just had a conversation twenty minutes ago
about pool solar panels and all of a sudden, so
(39:43):
it's a gaslight, you know, I mean there, listen, I
do know, Like you know, you learn a new word
and all of a sudden, you're you hear it and
you're like, oh my god, coincidence. It's like that word
may have been being said all the time, but you
just hadn't you didn't have a consciousness for it, right,
That's what they're trying to tell you is happening. No niggas,
y'all are listening to my conversations around pool solar heaters,
(40:05):
and I don't fucking like it. Well, what they also
are saying, and I don't disagree with you, it does
make me feel like, get the funk out of here.
But what they're also saying is you notice the pool
solar panels in your ads or whatever. The pool solar
panels wasn't there before. Also, then that looks like, all right,
(40:29):
I'm just telling you what the white man told me.
That's how to get you a Hey, I'm just reporting
back with the white man told me about the Internet
and the safety of it. If there's one thing the
white Man good at, it's telling you some ship and
making it folks be like, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
(40:53):
The next thing you know, it's it's it's two and
we got a whole bunch of folks talking about critical
race theory. That and the ship is a complete farce
and a lie. Also to that point, I want to
promote on Showtime Everything's Gonna Be All White. It's a
docuseries that I'm a part of that basically, over the
(41:15):
course of several episodes, breaks down conspiracy theories that have
been create rooted in white supremacy and on my territory.
I don't get that at all. Hey cut that cut
that it doesn't make the final cut cutting. But I'm
really proud to be a part of it because it
really is making white people is just so upset just
(41:38):
the trailer. The trailer is making them just so upset.
They're like the last and that means we've done it right.
We're doing a lot right, and I'm excited. We're gonna
take one more break, but I'm excited to come back
because I have some more information that I'm curious to
see how this bumps against your your defiance that that
(42:02):
they are gas lighting us. I'm truly excited. We're gonna
take another break. We'll be back with more, Amanda Seals
and more. My mama told me, and we are Kenny
(42:26):
Lenda Nigga a pencil. Yeah, we're back here with more.
My mama told me more, Amanda Steals. We're still talking
about the possibility that your technology is constantly listening to you.
And I'm very excited, Amanda, because you before we went
to break, you said, it's complete gas lighting that that
they're saying they don't need to listen to us. And
the final piece of research that I thought was really
(42:49):
essential in this entire conversation and and really sort of
hammered home. The thing that scares me the most in
all of this is that the art a few of
the articles I read said, our tech absolutely is not
listening to you. It's not recording anything because they don't
have to. They already have all the information that they
(43:10):
need about you before you've said anything on any phone
or text any message. It truly, it haunted the funk
out of me. Basically, they said they know everything about you.
They know your age, they know your interests, they know
your locations, they know where your families and friends live.
They have everything that they can gather, and so subsequently
(43:34):
they don't have to listen to your recent conversations because
they're constantly sort of doing marketing strategy course corrections analysis
to to assume that you, a new homeowner moving into
this place, probably has enough money and enough resources or
or functionality to be able to think about solar panels
(43:56):
for your pool. So we will introduce you to solar
panel adds even if that isn't your ship yet. Well,
I think there's also the Google of it all, right,
Like the all it takes is you googling pinky toes
and now you getting sent a bunch of information about
(44:17):
foot fetishes. Correct, And he's like, I was not googling
for that purpose. What they like, why not here's an
option if you're here and maybe you see that and
you go, no, I don't like foot and they'll be like,
all right, I got your big dog, I got how
(44:40):
about this? How about it? About this? You know, I
think to be clear, it's like, even if it's not
the microphone on the phone, even if it's not the
camera on the phone, I'm still disturbed by the Google
of it all, the traceability of that. You know, Like
(45:01):
people are like, man, do you should run for office
one day? And I'm like, I can't run for office
one day because I utilize porn hub. And porn hub
will send you a video that says team so and
so da da da da, And you're like, nah, it's
already there, and porn up has saved that to your
favorite's already there. And even though these are eighteen year
(45:26):
old or nineteen year old whatever, it still looks fucking creepy.
And I personally am just like whenever you put teen
in front of it, that's clearly somebody who wants to
see some ship that is sketchy. But it's like like
it's a very It's like we are in a fake
free space. In this Internet. It seems like it's a
(45:49):
world wide web. It's available, everything is available to you.
You can be here and you know, find out your
information is more available to you than it ever has been, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
But in that they're clocking your every move, yes, and
they're capitalizing on your every move. And I I've had
to train myself that even when them cookies come up
(46:10):
and they're like do you want this track? This apter track?
At first I was just like I don't want to
be bothered, like whatever track. Now I'm like no, yeah,
that first up, and and it's so scary. This this
will really hammer home exactly what you're saying. Ten years ago,
and this was ten years ago when our technology was
fucking iPhone threes. Facebook was mining over five hundred terabytes
(46:36):
of data a day, a single day, five hundred terabytes
of data. I am not a technology person, but that
is like ship tons of people's data every single day,
and so that means that if you looked up some
ship ten years ago, they're still holding onto it and
(46:57):
figuring out who you are and who you were based
on the information they used to have, So they don't
need to listen to you. Every search you've ever searched
is being accumulated and strategized against you, and even worse,
what they The scariest part of all of this is
these companies have the ability to buy and sell your
(47:18):
information to each other. So it means that even if
Facebook is the one that knew that you like feet,
that also then makes that these other companies now know
that you like feet, which is why your feet ship
is coming up from you know, an arbitrary thing that
you may have liked or or said on a different app.
(47:39):
Do they have straight flights to Montana? Hey? If you
lick it up and you start getting it's it's a
it's a crazy game where basically like your phones don't
need to listen to to you because they've already got
(48:01):
a twenty plus year game of telephone going. You know
what I mean, They're just whispering all your secrets back
and forth. Oh that don't even say, why do you
put it like that? That just felt real, like I
was able to see that, And in my mind it's like,
it's what's his name? Hold on because there's a particular
person who whispers the Yang twins. They had a whole
(48:26):
song about it. I feel like there's um I like,
in my mind, I see, looky Stanfield like doing the
whispering got him. That's that's the person that got in
my head when I when you said that, him being like, yeah,
so she google corn on the car. Now what was
(48:50):
she trying to do with the corn? Look was she
trying to cook? It? Was trying to make a new
kind of Molotov cock them? What was she trying to
do with that? I don't know. Sounds kind of fun
to me. Yep, let's say that. Let's let's let's all
go onto that one. I just don't you know, when
we look at the espionage that was weaponized against our
civil rights leaders m h and you know, the homegrown
(49:13):
terrorism that our government enacted upon them, that that is
where my head goes with all of this stuff. You
know that, Okay? You know, so it's being used for
capitalist purposes. That's shitty. But I just feel like we
are in what seems to me to be a very
impendingly treacherous and violent era in this country. I feel
(49:38):
I feel like we are on the brink of a
another type of McCarthy ism that's going to be around
race and the speaking. And you know what, let me
not even say that, it's gonna be around truth, right,
because that's essentially what they're silencing. It's the truth about
what this country has been and what white people have
managed to accomplish by oppressing others. And so it's it's
(49:59):
only it's only a matter of time to me that this,
this things that we're discussing become weaponized in a way
that's I mean, I'm sure it is already, but in
an even more sinister way that we find ourselves Party two,
and I'm sure in other countries it already has. Yeah,
I mean, I think and even in its simplest form,
(50:19):
we we are going to be met with accountability that
that we didn't earn, right that like if I said
some ship ten years ago that has now been deemed
challenging or problematic. Who and when they're they're deciding that
it is correct or incorrect, is going to be the game,
(50:40):
right that, Like, Yo, he said this, and maybe it
is problematic for our day and time, or maybe I'm
saying something that continues to be accurate, but you've decided,
based on the sort of like the mass public, that
it's unacceptable and I'm being punished for it, either by
being you know, outcasted, or judged or shamed or just
called a funky ass bitch on the internet. It's truly why, well,
(51:04):
there's a version. I mean, if if we continue to
see this trend right where I might even call them
right wing, where these like white supremacist extremists like are
getting a real stronghold on all facets right, whether it's
not just it's not just politically but media as well.
And if we continue to see that grow, then the
(51:26):
ship that we're talking about that you know, in this
current climate for a lot of people feels real correct
and right. You know, it's the people who are in
power who get to determine what is considered what is
considered a crime, was considered problematic, what is because you know,
so my whole existence would be considered problematic. Oh yeah,
(51:46):
you're going to jail and uh, I won't be able
to stand up with you because all of this is
gonna be Why listen, it's it's just the same way
that we look at the fact that lie Nigga is
really imprisoned for weed right now, while Ashley h and
Ashley Ce have billboards for their new weed dispensary, and
(52:08):
it's like they was they picked the right time. The
ship just swayed, it just changed, it changes, and we
are not nearly as in charge of the changes as
we think we are, and subsequently we are much more
victim than than we care to admit that we we
might be. This is such a fun conversation. Would you
(52:31):
believe this was meant to be the closer? This is
gonna be the end of the combot outside and just
taking nature? Yeah, well, Amanda, this was I had a
good time. I had a great time. I'm a real
sick funck though, so I you know, I'll take it
as I can. This was great. Can you tell the
(52:51):
people where they can find you and what cool ship
you have going on? First? I want to say, though,
that lengthen is always a source of a thought that
I'll that I never think about. I just remember very
specifically asking you a question about Michelle Obama. I'm not
gonna say what the answer was that you gave me,
but I would like that's probably what I said. Well,
(53:14):
I was like, why she cool with George? Why cool
George Bush? Why I remember this convote George Bush? And
your answer was not was something I had never considered.
I mean that, and I had considered a lot, you know,
and you you put another pin on the board, like,
but have you considered this? So this, you know, is
the perfect podcast to your askd That's basically what I think.
(53:37):
That that means the world to me. Um and then
and let me also just publicly thank langs and for
always being willing to show up the ship that I
asked him to do Langston and show up to do
a sketch. She's like, what time I got to be there?
Back and I'll do it. So everybuddy in black, Yeah,
what were we doing this in the back of a
comb book store? No problem? Hey, that was a good
comic book store. It was a good time. As You
(53:57):
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(54:20):
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(54:42):
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(55:08):
The Ostal players hosted money versions defending turkey stuff I
can't tell me about
I just bugged Janice, and Janice now made it so
that I'm I'm an enemy to my own communie. It's
enemy of the state, but with like a slap like
Chris Red what what what? Just a sillier version of honestly,
(00:23):
a better version, let's disagree, a better version of If
enemy of the state is just a silly my being,
let let me out. I ain't do nothing. My crop
chips in yours are racist money martial man interning stuff.
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Can't tell me yep, yup, yup, there it is there
it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode
of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep,
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(01:15):
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I think that's a pretty solid fact. This nigga is
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(01:35):
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(01:56):
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I just realized we didn't mention, like we even say
why we know each other? Oh yeah, well how did we?
We met? Years ago? In stand up? I met you,
(02:16):
I believe, and correct me if you feel like this
is not true. I met you, I think during the
stand Up NBC competition the the I think, did you
in New York? In New York we did the semi
for Sam, Yes, the same year that Sam did it.
And yeah, that's that's when I first met you. Yes, really,
(02:40):
that is the closest I have to a memory. And
then I think the rest of it all kind of
bleeds together. We're just doing comedy scene and then obviously
insecure sort of like uh, you know, yeah, huh, You're
staring up at the sky as if to say bullshit,
(03:00):
I don't. It's not just that first of all, that
seems like that was another existence, you know, I mean,
aside from the fact that we've been in a pandemic
that literally feels like what was that my life? Yeah,
I gotta look at my journals. Yes, I mean for
for the people that are unaware of what Stand Up
(03:22):
NBC is, It was the diversity program that NBC was
putting together to get like black voices and diverse voices
added to the community. But then they made a bunch
of niggas stand in line overnight so that they could
then audition for a minute in front of mostly white people.
(03:42):
So it was because then it got changed to diversity
end inclusion. Yea. Then it was like, it's not enough
for it to be black folks. You can be white
and gay. That's fine, right, Oh, y'all can sit in
a tent and uh wait to to try your best
in front of these people who don't really watch stand yeah,
yeah yeah. And then you do a semifinal in front
(04:04):
of a bunch more people don't really watch stand up.
And I remember the person who like won the night
per se was a sister, but all her jokes were
like can you believe black people do this? And I
remember being like, wow, I hate this a lot, doing
(04:26):
like a generic African accent. She you know what if
I recall she had made a joke that was like
my dad is like mufassa or something like that, and
I was like, do do that? Come on, now, that's
not the African animals you canna anyway? So well, you know,
and here we are, here we are, but you're here
(04:47):
today and I couldn't be more excited because you came.
I think with the conspiracy theory that's been sitting on
our plate for a while, untouched, I think you are
the first to want to take on such a haunting task,
I guess. And you said, my mama told me all
of your technology is watching you. You know. I dated
(05:15):
somebody actually who was on Secure and he would not
converse in the room where A t like he felt
like the TV was always watching you. WHOA the TV?
Anything with a screen, he felt like it was watching you.
(05:38):
And the camera wasn't a factor here. It was the
screen that was more essential. It started with the camera
and I was like sure, right, and then it became
the mic on the phone, right, So I was like, okay,
and then it became the computer, and then it became
the TV. And then I was like, are you paranoid schizophrenic?
(06:00):
Because this is like real because I had I had
dated recipes down, but like I had dated a brother
in college who like he had started similar rhetoric and
I told his dad and his dad was like, o't
like the way that sounds. And it turned out that
he ended up having a like catch a break and
he was a parent of a schizophrenic. And it was
it started with me saying to him, what up and
(06:21):
he would he would respond chilling like the fens al right,
well wait a minute, because that's just a good answer,
you know. That's what I thought. That's what I thought,
And then what do you want him? And I just
thought it was like a quippy like maybe it was
(06:42):
a rap lyric that I didn't know. And then we
were like on the train one time, going like the
first time we took the train to the city for
like a date, because when we went to school at
Suny Purchase and we took the train into the city
and he was like, I started saying something and he
was like, they're listening, but you know what. It really
(07:04):
is a testament to black women because I was just like,
all right, so he doesn't like talking on the train, right, Okay,
that's now I understand. Now I know him a little better.
He let me in. Yeah, I'm gonna support my my
quiet trained king. You know what I mean. I'm a
I'm a whole in down because because we ain't gonna
do that on the train. So these things I feel
(07:26):
like I'm not fully committed. Yeah, they were amount around
me enough to where I just have a you know,
there is a residual awareness of like is that you
watching me? Yeah? So would you say then that that
individual that you dated was the first person to at
(07:47):
least introduce this concept to you or were you like
already you know, pulse finger on the pulse before that
he was the first to like have empirical evidence, you know,
like he was like he was the first to show
me like seeing look what just came up in mind? Boone?
Why is it showing me that? Why is it showing
me that? And I was like, oh my god, is
(08:08):
it showing And you know, and then like um, people,
I feel like this conversation happened somewhere else and someone
had mentioned like, oh, well, if you do this, you know,
turn off this thing and turn off your mic. Like
you have to like put your settings a certain way
so that the man, right, you know, don't send the
(08:32):
pale horse to Yeah. Yeah, and hey that's how they
get that's how they get you. I agree. You you
do have to track your settings, be aware of of
sort of what you're allowing into the space. And and
maybe perhaps they won't be listening. But but two more
to the point that these people who you who you
(08:53):
were seeing at a time, we're saying, even with those
setting choices, government still listening. But my thing was like,
so what we're gonna do? You know, what's the what's
the workaround? Like just honest when we're not on set,
you know, like what yeah, that's always my concern is, like, hey, bro,
(09:17):
not for nothing. We live in l a you know
what I mean, Like, this is not Montana. And if
if you're saying let's move to Montana and build fires there,
I can make a choice. But if you are saying
we are going to continue to live this l a
ass lifestyle and eat sweet green, well guess what I
(09:37):
think my phone is just gonna have to hear everything
I'm saying, yeah, like I just got I just had
to get. I mean I distinctly remember like us like
we had eaten inedible and it turned up. Yeah, the
paranoia turned up. And he was like, I was like
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holding my phone that are you according me? Are you
according me? And I was like, no, I'm not recording you.
I was, but I was like a fence. This is
this he was saying something hilarious. I was recording it.
I was like, okay, I'm not I'm not recording you.
And he was like it doesn't matter anyway. There everything,
They recording everything. Because that that's when I goes to
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another level, is when the person starts addressing Oh I
know y'all see me. Yeah, I know y'all hear what
the funk I'm saying, Oh okay, now I see where
you're feeling. Like this takes the shift from just paranoid
to a type of psychosis, is that this isn't just
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a person, because like I'll admit, there are plenty of
times where I'm like, man, this camera still on. I
know the green Lighting show on, but I think motherfucker's watching.
But I don't I don't go what what do you
work from me? You sick fox? Like I'm not addressing them.
I go to bed. I'm like, hey, take a peek.
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Did you see something? Say something? You know what I mean.
But at the end of the day, like I mean, okay,
So I just saw that reporters at the Beijing Games
are using burner phones because they don't want to somehow
have an opportunity for China to put some type of
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tracking device or tracer or copier in their phone when
they leave, So they're they're using burner phones that they
can dispose of when they leave. And I'm just like,
it's I didn't know China espionage was really on it
like that, Like, but I just was like, wow, like
that feels very extreme something. But somebody had to have
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made them feel like this is a matter of national security. Yeah,
to your point, it does. It is concerning, right, if
nothing else, when you're sitting and looking at a situation
where like a government because obviously I think these journalists
are functioning at least from some version of direction from
the American government or whatever they're they're overseeing government is
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to use these burner phones, which means that y'all are
playing weird government games that like, even if you're not
doing it to us, you have the potential to do
it to us, and you're not. You're not saying that,
and that's fucked up because it's it's like when someone
accuses you of some ship that you wouldn't do and
it's like, oh, but you would do that, You would
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do that, that's why you accuse you would. So they
like China do that, and it's like, how you know,
y'all already try y'all try to Yeah, y'all doing it. Yeah,
y'all do that to people. And uh, maybe it's not
the mass public. If if we if we wanted to
give the government any grace, you know how we love
giving the government. You know why we do it to
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feel to ourselves feel better. That's why that Like I
the other day said when Martin Luther King passed away,
and I had to catch myself like right correction, when
he was assassinated, he didn't go out of here without
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you know what I mean, Like this wasn't Yeah, there
was no he didn't diet on the bed around surrounded
by his loved ones like he should have. But I
feel like that was like a Freudian government grace moment.
And I think that that even if we were to
give them some of that grace, it isn't Maybe you're
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not doing it to everybody, but you're doing it, and
you have the potential to do it to more people.
And that's what makes this paranoia so easily accessible. Well
remember Wiki leaks, I mean that was the other thing, right,
Like my mom, My mom was very big to wikilis
um like a fan, just a fans, just very involved
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in the whole scenario of things. And you know Snowdon
You know, Snowdon really letting them an it. He's really
letting them have it. And I was just like, I
feel like you think you're in on something that other
people aren't in on. Like that's what always comedy about
my mom in these situations, like you're getting the same
information as everyone else. But she's like, so let me
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tell you what's happening. You don't have like you're reading it,
but you're not reading it the way I'm reading it.
So I'll explain it to you. Your dumb ass, I
got you. I'm just like, you don't have like a
higher security clearance than WikiLeaks. But that was the whole
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real thing that I think set a lot of people off,
you know, the WikiLeaks of it all, because at the
end of the day, that's what it was. It was
him realizing that the n s A was tapping people's
phones and and you know at will right, like, not
even for just any reason, but just because they had
created the capability to do so, and they were just
playing around. And in that case, just so that we're
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making it clear, the n s A was tapping preferred phones,
they weren't tapping all phones. At least that's the argument
that's being made, or at least Snowdon's argument, which is
always the source of truth. Okay, So then the way
I understood it was that what makes it a preferred phone,
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whatever they decide, is a reason for them to need
to hear your ship, which is dangerous, right because at
the end of the day, their decision making is it's
a person still making. If they don't like something I've said,
or are uncomfortable with a choice I've made publicly, they
can start to tap my phone under the guise of
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protecting American civilians, when in fact I might just be
annoying to a lady in an office I'm just picturing
that film like where someone gets arrested and like thrown
in the back of a black van because they were
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thought to be dangerous. And they're just the office prick,
but not even pricked the office twerk like they're just
they just they just said the wrong words in order. Right,
Let me ask you this before we go to break you.
You said you are not all in on this conspiracy theory.
You're not fully invested. Tell me help me get a
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where you are in it. It's not that I'm not
fully invested. I think the better way to say is that,
like I guess in my mind fully invested me as
I'm also like using actions to combat it. Oh, you know,
like and I'm just I I think I've just accepted it,
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right because I don't genuine they feel I can do
anything like they have like these VPN things that you
can put to like stop your IP address, but I
and I had one like that that like advertised on
my podcast Small Doses where you can listen to anywhere podocasted. Uh,
we don't do no cross advertisements. No, no cut that
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Olivia cut it, cut it. No, it's fine, but well
they like where they like advertise on my podcast while
doses and I was like, Oh, I get to use
this for a year for free. Great, But then when
the subscription ran out, it was like, well that's the
So that's the crazy thing. Even with like these VPNs
and the other things that you can download to theoretically
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protect yourself from whatever's watching, is you still are paying
a corporation to to access this service. And in theory,
that corporation has other corporate friends that they want to
to provide the information too. So it's like, is this
protecting me or is that just a slight You know,
when they give you those aluminum covers after you run
(18:02):
a race. We're like, I don't think that's gonna keep
me warm. The way y'all saying it is this this
aeems like bullshit. But when we come back, I want
to talk about how this also extends to like how
Facebook was tracing us. Yes, I actually think that's a
perfect throw for us to to walk out on because
because as my listeners know, we come back with research,
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and I have a fair amount of research. I'd love
to impact with you about Facebook and they're devious choices sucking.
All Right, We're gonna take a break, We'll be back
with more, am And this feels and more, my mama
told me, and we all, yeah, we're back here with more.
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Amanda steels more. My mama told me. We're still talking
about the possibility that your technology is watching your ass
at all times, just listening, checking in on you. Why
you're you're doing your nasty ship and you know the
nasty ship that you do person listening at home, you
know why you're yucky anyway, So tell me a little
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bit about what you know, Amanda, because we left off here,
what you know about the Facebook intrusions. Let's say I
can't remember the name of the doc, but I had
seen this documentary on Netflix that just, I mean it
threw me off for like a good two weeks because
it really spoke about the specifically about how these internets
(19:47):
were used to swathe elections, and it was this It
was presented in such a what's the word I'm looking for,
just there was no theory. It was what, yes, social dilemma, Yes,
thank you, the social dilemma. And it was just very
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matter of fact. This wasn't theoretical, This wasn't like, you know,
we we put things together and it seems like this
is the case. It was like no, no, yeah, what happened.
This is how it happened, and let's talk about it.
And that is when I'm like, oh wow, okay, so
so I don't so I like help this man get lefted.
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So the craziest thing with the social dilemma, to your point,
is that it's it's sort of being presented by a
bunch of people who built the algorithms and are like
in charge of the way that they move and shake,
and so it's not them going like, well we think
this is a possibility, or like no, no, no no, I
wrote the code so that this would happen. And I
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would never let my children around any of these sapps.
It is dangerous ship and we feel real bad about it.
That's why we're talking to you now, directors of said film.
That right there, when the guy was like, I would
never let my kids around this, this is I mean,
we just saw some lady come out and then go
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real quiet about how it's proven that like Facebook and
these apps are deleterious to our social structure, to the minds,
to mental health, etcetera. And yet we it's an addiction
and they play on that. I am absolutely addicted. Yeah,
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and and and we're in a business now that's also
made it a critical part for a lot of people
to engage in if they want to be in certain spaces.
So it's like, even if you aren't addicted, like you
still have to somehow be a part of it. And
it's it's it's just it's frustrating. Yeah, no, it's it's
a it's a gross aim. We're all sort of trapped
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in of being both like we need the thing. I
need the thing to some extent for people to know
I exist out in the world as an entertainer. That's
that is my livelihood to some extent. But then on
top of that, I feel yucky every time I have
to access one of these apps and and beg for
attention in these spaces, and even scarier, the attention I'm
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getting or giving might be something I didn't even intend.
Oh man, that's the story of my life. I got
in trouble the other day of some ship I didn't
even say. I was just there. God said ship, And
they're like a mad steel was present when this thing
said this ship. And I'm like, God did it? But
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was you having fun? Because that's how you get in trouble.
I was putting on lipstick, I was literally putting out
lives and I was just talking away and I was like,
I was like, best of intentions, best of attentions, and
people are like a seal disgust saying and I'm like,
if I don't say nothing, how is it discussing? Damn?
But I think there's really like I mean, so I
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started Patreon because I was trying to find I started Patreon.
We started a newsletter because I was trying to like
find ways to extend off of the Instagram of it
all because I was getting shadow Band. I'm still getting
shadow band, Like they really just in there. So after
Facebook and Instagram got addressed by I guess Congress about
their role in stealing people's information and you know, and
(23:31):
really pushing the trump of it all, they now became
like hyper vigilant about I feel like se questions about
like sequestering anything that can influence the direction that folks thinking.
So you're a thought leader, and you like, have I
want to talk about this? I wanna, I wanna, I
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want to get what's what's it called? I want to
talk talk Okay, let me let me keep you up
you're ready, You're I'm you know, when you have a
platform that has a bunch of people on it, you're
going to of course have people that become thought leaders,
people that are going to take the truth and you know,
articulated to the masses through their own opinions. And by
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nature of that, there's gonna be people who start listening.
That's just the way it happens, you know, with Jesus
and my Mother, It's gonna happen on the app. And
the frustrating part though, is that these algorithms can't tell
the difference between who's telling the truth and who is
just telling ship. And so what it does is it
silence is the folks whose voices actually have to be heard.
And it's so incredibly frustrating because even when you get
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the actual human beings and these apps, they're so committed
to the algorithm of it all that they don't even
have the ability to discern like, oh, this is the truth,
this isn't. And that's how you have apps that are
letting people say all niggas must die. They're not shutting
that down. But when someone says, like, hey, maybe you
all should get vaccinated, they're like, wrong, information, and it's like,
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how do you create something that's supposed to be for
social growth but you're shutting down any level of elevation.
M M yeah, it's it's to that point, and I
think it's an important one for us to address. Even
with the influencing the the elections, right, it truly wasn't
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this like crazy infiltration that we sort of built it
up to be. It was just motherfucker's writing some wild
ship and then people amplifying the wild ship. So it
wasn't we were susceptible. It's not like they brainwashed us.
They just showed us wild ship and we were like,
I'm gonna listen to that wild ship. And so in
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that way, the way that their course correcting is by
calling everything wild ship and some of it's not wild
And maybe y'all just need to have more of an
analytical I I guess in determining like is this honest
or is this just somebody talking crazy for the sake
of changing the way that our our government works. So,
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like I use the vaccine example because someone saying, hey,
maybe you should get vaccinated is to me very benign.
They're not saying like you need to get vaccinated they're
not saying you're killing everybody. They're making a suggestion based
on their opinion. Sure, you should be able to do
that on your page without them being like, no one
(26:24):
gets to see your page now. Yeah. But and this
is this will be a good segue into a lot
of what I sort of found in the research, is
that it seems to be born out of corporate interest,
right that like at the end of the day, when
there was a point in this pandemic, for example, where
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you said you should get vaccinated, and we all went, yeah, yeah,
that's that's right. Yeah, And then at some point there
was a shift where we some people were like, no,
shut the funk up. And then there was an additional shoot.
And that's the additional shift where it was like your brainwashed,
and we all were debating whether or not vaccinations were effective,
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whether or not they made a difference in the way
that we survived this thing. And and to some extent,
they are more complicated than they were originally presented, but
they're not nearly as dangerous as a bunch of people
want us to believe. But because those people still pay
for these these lights to stay on, they're going to
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entertain both sides of the argument at all times. So
what you're saying is that by nature of the argument
taking place, that the argument is what helps keep the
lights on. I'm saying that advertisers don't know the difference
between an anti vaxer and a pro vaxer, and so
in that way, they still get paid and they're not
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kicking people off simply because they don't like their language.
I mean, you know, it's funny because you have said
earlier about like how it's like if you want to
move to Montana and and you know, build fires, and
that's a round that you can go, and that's how
it feels like I have to deal with the Internet
at this point. I feel like Patreon is me trying
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to move to Mantana, Montana, and like, y'all give me
five dollars so I can build this fire, you know.
Like I had actually started an app. I had created
an app during the pandemic called SFB Society for the
purpose of like let's have a space where there are
no trolls, let's have a space where people can actually
have discourse, you know, And and then there was like
a fight on the app one day when this woman
(28:36):
was like I will put you ahead to the curb
and and we were like, yeah, that's against our guidelines. Yeah,
I don't know, we can we can do that, baby girl.
But what we realized I ended up having to close
down the app because we couldn't. Managing a community is
way harder than in actuality than I think most people
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really really understand. Like, yes, I think that's a hundred
percent true. Into that in this I want to segue
us into some of this research, the the everything I've
read up to this point, and you take it all
with a grain of salt. It maybe real, maybe not real.
Is that they're not listening to everything that we're doing.
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Everything I've read, they're not watching everything we're doing. Yes,
I don't tell you know, Ay'm gonna tell you know
like that they're gonna say day and listen that that's
how they get you, because maybe they're not just they're
just not gonna tell us. Maybe this is this is
them just being like, no, we wouldn't do that to you, mama,
Why would you even say that? Listen. I had to
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an interview earlier to day as someone was like, you know,
do you feel like there are black factions that are
working to like change, Hollywood, etcetera, etcetera, And if so,
like who are they? And I was like, can tell
y'all right? And really I should have just said, no,
there aren't, there are none. Everything is back, you know, like,
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but it's like I don't feel like they would tell
on themselves. Yeah. So so they they claim that they
are not watching, they are not listening. Yes, your phone
is a eyeball. Yes your speakers are ears, but that
does not necessarily mean that they're listening to everything. And
part of what they say as justification for that not
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being true is that the the amount of data that
it would require for them to actually be able to
listen to everything that you're saying is so insanely large
that they we don't have the resources to compute. Moreover,
they say that the computers themselves can't actually make sense
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of the way that human beings speak enough to be
able to, like, you know, discern when they need to
turn on and when they But you see what you said,
the computers haven't been able to yet. Yeah, yeah, I
think that is a key word in all of that.
They say that because of our our addiction, because of
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our slang, because of all the different ways that that
human speeches overpacked with innu window and sarcasm. The computers
have no way of knowing what all of this means.
But part of the reason that they know that is
because they keep trying to feed our language two computers
and be like, figure this ship out, nigga, I want
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I want you to know how to talk the way
I talk, and the computer sounds like the white girl
that I encountered in two thousand and five at at
a job I was working at where I was like, yeah,
I'm by the skate because they said they're gonna bounce
in a minute. And she was like, why do you
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talk like that? I was like, what do you mean?
She was like, do you have to talk hip hop
talk all the time? Can't you speak English? Bitch? You
know what? Though to that point though, I knew a
drug dealer who said that, like the amount of slang
(32:08):
in Detroit was so immense because they were always creating
language that wouldn't be identified in the tap phone situation
that you know, Like, so they were they were constantly
creating just new ways of speaking about elicit activities to
(32:28):
throw folks off the trail. And that was them just
trying to throw other human beings off the trail. If
you create new lingo every single day, the computers aren't
going to be able to like do the math to
be able to feed. That's what they're saying. I still
don't even understand what pushing P means, so I don't
know how to computer gonna figure that out. It was
(32:50):
that was an urban dictionary look up for me, And
I'm not proud to say that out loud. You know,
you want to be you want to be youthful enough
that you just like you he You're gonna say it,
and you're like, yep, and then you go on with
your day. But I was like, gonna, I don't know
what you're saying most of the time. I definitely don't
know what your Twitter is saying. So I'm gonna, I'm
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gonna look this one up. Someone had left it as
a comment and I was like, is this a compliment?
Like I'm like, because I'm really into blocking negative comments
right now, and they were like, that ain't pushing P.
And I was like, I don't know, this is in support.
I don't know if I gotta kill you or I mean,
I just you know, Captain took me forever you know.
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I'm glad it's still a part of the lexicon because
I finally have a grasp. But that's when I knew
I was old, when I was like, Captain, why isn't
that rolling off my tusk? It don't feel good. It
don't feel good as a thirty plus, I'm in the club, bro.
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All right, Well, I was trying to be generous. I'm
sorry for your loss. Made the force be with you.
So here's the other thing that I thought was useful.
And this goes back to our Facebook conversation, and it
really goes back to the grander conversation at hand, right
is yes, they pent say, or at least this is
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what they claim, is that they're not listening. But there
is a history to your point about the social dilemma
of them doing funk shit with these applications. For example,
Facebook has a history of hiring outside contractors to transcribe
clips of audio from users on their services. There's another
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thing where they store messages that users wrote out but
did not post, like some ship that you like kind
of thought, you might say, and then you backtrack on it.
Facebook saved it and they just have it available. And
there's a history of ship like this. So when you
tell me that you're not listening all the time, I
(34:58):
don't believe you, because you keep doing evil ship in
other directions. That the part that you just said about
them keeping drafts, that's trippy. No, no, and let's be clear,
not even drafts, because drafts you are saving for future use.
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They're saying they saved when you talk type something out,
so it's an auto save. It's like and you were like, no, no, no,
I'm better than this. You're not. And Facebook has evidence
of it forever. Mhm, you know, I think. So we're
at a time where I feel like people have really
tapped into their darkness and are like, you know what,
(35:40):
I'm gonna choose. I'm gonna choose darkness. Like that feels
a lot more prevalent than ever in than ever in
my lived experience, Like I feel like we all have darkness,
but for most of my life it feels like the
consensus was, yeah, but that ain't cool, so don't go there, right,
But now it feels like they're like folks like fucking
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I'm out here, I'm trash, I'm trying, you know, and
like are just like tapping into that, and it fox
with my perfectionism because it makes me feel like my
only counter to that is to try to be like
a flawless human, which is not possible game to be playing.
And so when you hear about something like that, you're
(36:23):
just like, damn, so so they've tracked even what I
caught myself and did better. But we also know for
a fact that we are in this crazy scenario of
a We are in a giant gladiator ring on a
regular basis where folks are waiting to see like, I
know you wasn't ship. I knew it. And it's just
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wild to hear that they have like weaponry like that
against anyone who's used their app. They're app and and
theoretically maybe they do nothing with this, right, maybe it
truly is just them like trying to teach a computer speech,
or maybe it's some thing that even if they didn't
plan on doing something with, someone might be able to
hack access I expose you forward your choices, even if
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that wasn't Facebook's plan necessarily, it's all scary ship. It's like,
you know, when is something When are they going to
handle your rest all of us and be like here's
some ship that you did and yeah, Yeah, what's that
minority report? We ain't that far from whatever that energy is.
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The last thing I'll tell you before we go to
break is that I I additionally wanted to sort of
look into that tendency or that thing that happens where
you talk about something in a room and then suddenly
your phone is showing you ads for the thing and
you're like, what the funk? My phone clearly had to
be listening to me, And they claim that that is
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not the case. That is absolutely the case. There's no
other there's no world where that's not the case. I'm
gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you what the
Internet told me, and you you, you tell me where
you land in all of this. They actually say that
because of the way that these ads work and because
of the way that everything works, it's more a issue
of probability than it is an issue of them listening,
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that the likelihood of you seeing the thing that you
were just talking about is one in a million. But
because they show you so many things all the time,
and because human beings have a tendency to notice patterns,
they we create connections that may not necessarily be as
immediate as we think they are you're already shaking your
(38:35):
head now because that's light aluminatim So I have my
body like secret society trying to keep on me like
that is a complete gaslight, because I like, I could
see that if it was generic, but it's not like
there are so for instance, a perfect example is that
(38:57):
I am now a homeowner. There are so many conversations
that I'm having for the first time all the time, right,
like they're not a part of my regular lexicon. Like
I never said h vat before August onest, two thousand
and twenty two, two thousand one. So there's no trend
(39:20):
for the technology to be pulling from to randomly show
me this conversation around pool solar panels. Sure, however, me
and my man just had a conversation twenty minutes ago
about pool solar panels and all of a sudden, so
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it's a gaslight, you know, I mean there, listen, I
do know, Like you know, you learn a new word
and all of a sudden, you're you hear it and
you're like, oh my god, coincidence. It's like that word
may have been being said all the time, but you
just hadn't you didn't have a consciousness for it, right,
That's what they're trying to tell you is happening. No niggas,
y'all are listening to my conversations around pool solar heaters,
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and I don't fucking like it. Well, what they also
are saying, and I don't disagree with you, it does
make me feel like, get the funk out of here.
But what they're also saying is you notice the pool
solar panels in your ads or whatever. The pool solar
panels wasn't there before. Also, then that looks like, all right,
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I'm just telling you what the white man told me.
That's how to get you a Hey, I'm just reporting
back with the white man told me about the Internet
and the safety of it. If there's one thing the
white Man good at, it's telling you some ship and
making it folks be like, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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The next thing you know, it's it's it's two and
we got a whole bunch of folks talking about critical
race theory. That and the ship is a complete farce
and a lie. Also to that point, I want to
promote on Showtime Everything's Gonna Be All White. It's a
docuseries that I'm a part of that basically, over the
(41:15):
course of several episodes, breaks down conspiracy theories that have
been create rooted in white supremacy and on my territory.
I don't get that at all. Hey cut that cut
that it doesn't make the final cut cutting. But I'm
really proud to be a part of it because it
really is making white people is just so upset just
(41:38):
the trailer. The trailer is making them just so upset.
They're like the last and that means we've done it right.
We're doing a lot right, and I'm excited. We're gonna
take one more break, but I'm excited to come back
because I have some more information that I'm curious to
see how this bumps against your your defiance that that
(42:02):
they are gas lighting us. I'm truly excited. We're gonna
take another break. We'll be back with more, Amanda Seals
and more. My mama told me, and we are Kenny
(42:26):
Lenda Nigga a pencil. Yeah, we're back here with more.
My mama told me more, Amanda Steals. We're still talking
about the possibility that your technology is constantly listening to you.
And I'm very excited, Amanda, because you before we went
to break, you said, it's complete gas lighting that that
they're saying they don't need to listen to us. And
the final piece of research that I thought was really
(42:49):
essential in this entire conversation and and really sort of
hammered home. The thing that scares me the most in
all of this is that the art a few of
the articles I read said, our tech absolutely is not
listening to you. It's not recording anything because they don't
have to. They already have all the information that they
(43:10):
need about you before you've said anything on any phone
or text any message. It truly, it haunted the funk
out of me. Basically, they said they know everything about you.
They know your age, they know your interests, they know
your locations, they know where your families and friends live.
They have everything that they can gather, and so subsequently
(43:34):
they don't have to listen to your recent conversations because
they're constantly sort of doing marketing strategy course corrections analysis
to to assume that you, a new homeowner moving into
this place, probably has enough money and enough resources or
or functionality to be able to think about solar panels
(43:56):
for your pool. So we will introduce you to solar
panel adds even if that isn't your ship yet. Well,
I think there's also the Google of it all, right,
Like the all it takes is you googling pinky toes
and now you getting sent a bunch of information about
(44:17):
foot fetishes. Correct, And he's like, I was not googling
for that purpose. What they like, why not here's an
option if you're here and maybe you see that and
you go, no, I don't like foot and they'll be like,
all right, I got your big dog, I got how
(44:40):
about this? How about it? About this? You know, I
think to be clear, it's like, even if it's not
the microphone on the phone, even if it's not the
camera on the phone, I'm still disturbed by the Google
of it all, the traceability of that. You know, Like
(45:01):
people are like, man, do you should run for office
one day? And I'm like, I can't run for office
one day because I utilize porn hub. And porn hub
will send you a video that says team so and
so da da da da, And you're like, nah, it's
already there, and porn up has saved that to your
favorite's already there. And even though these are eighteen year
(45:26):
old or nineteen year old whatever, it still looks fucking creepy.
And I personally am just like whenever you put teen
in front of it, that's clearly somebody who wants to
see some ship that is sketchy. But it's like like
it's a very It's like we are in a fake
free space. In this Internet. It seems like it's a
(45:49):
world wide web. It's available, everything is available to you.
You can be here and you know, find out your
information is more available to you than it ever has been, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
But in that they're clocking your every move, yes, and
they're capitalizing on your every move. And I I've had
to train myself that even when them cookies come up
(46:10):
and they're like do you want this track? This apter track?
At first I was just like I don't want to
be bothered, like whatever track. Now I'm like no, yeah,
that first up, and and it's so scary. This this
will really hammer home exactly what you're saying. Ten years ago,
and this was ten years ago when our technology was
fucking iPhone threes. Facebook was mining over five hundred terabytes
(46:36):
of data a day, a single day, five hundred terabytes
of data. I am not a technology person, but that
is like ship tons of people's data every single day,
and so that means that if you looked up some
ship ten years ago, they're still holding onto it and
(46:57):
figuring out who you are and who you were based
on the information they used to have, So they don't
need to listen to you. Every search you've ever searched
is being accumulated and strategized against you, and even worse,
what they The scariest part of all of this is
these companies have the ability to buy and sell your
(47:18):
information to each other. So it means that even if
Facebook is the one that knew that you like feet,
that also then makes that these other companies now know
that you like feet, which is why your feet ship
is coming up from you know, an arbitrary thing that
you may have liked or or said on a different app.
(47:39):
Do they have straight flights to Montana? Hey? If you
lick it up and you start getting it's it's a
it's a crazy game where basically like your phones don't
need to listen to to you because they've already got
(48:01):
a twenty plus year game of telephone going. You know
what I mean, They're just whispering all your secrets back
and forth. Oh that don't even say, why do you
put it like that? That just felt real, like I
was able to see that, And in my mind it's like,
it's what's his name? Hold on because there's a particular
person who whispers the Yang twins. They had a whole
(48:26):
song about it. I feel like there's um I like,
in my mind, I see, looky Stanfield like doing the
whispering got him. That's that's the person that got in
my head when I when you said that, him being like, yeah,
so she google corn on the car. Now what was
(48:50):
she trying to do with the corn? Look was she
trying to cook? It? Was trying to make a new
kind of Molotov cock them? What was she trying to
do with that? I don't know. Sounds kind of fun
to me. Yep, let's say that. Let's let's let's all
go onto that one. I just don't you know, when
we look at the espionage that was weaponized against our
civil rights leaders m h and you know, the homegrown
(49:13):
terrorism that our government enacted upon them, that that is
where my head goes with all of this stuff. You
know that, Okay? You know, so it's being used for
capitalist purposes. That's shitty. But I just feel like we
are in what seems to me to be a very
impendingly treacherous and violent era in this country. I feel
(49:38):
I feel like we are on the brink of a
another type of McCarthy ism that's going to be around
race and the speaking. And you know what, let me
not even say that, it's gonna be around truth, right,
because that's essentially what they're silencing. It's the truth about
what this country has been and what white people have
managed to accomplish by oppressing others. And so it's it's
(49:59):
only it's only a matter of time to me that this,
this things that we're discussing become weaponized in a way
that's I mean, I'm sure it is already, but in
an even more sinister way that we find ourselves Party two,
and I'm sure in other countries it already has. Yeah,
I mean, I think and even in its simplest form,
(50:19):
we we are going to be met with accountability that
that we didn't earn, right that like if I said
some ship ten years ago that has now been deemed
challenging or problematic. Who and when they're they're deciding that
it is correct or incorrect, is going to be the game,
(50:40):
right that, Like, Yo, he said this, and maybe it
is problematic for our day and time, or maybe I'm
saying something that continues to be accurate, but you've decided,
based on the sort of like the mass public, that
it's unacceptable and I'm being punished for it, either by
being you know, outcasted, or judged or shamed or just
called a funky ass bitch on the internet. It's truly why, well,
(51:04):
there's a version. I mean, if if we continue to
see this trend right where I might even call them
right wing, where these like white supremacist extremists like are
getting a real stronghold on all facets right, whether it's
not just it's not just politically but media as well.
And if we continue to see that grow, then the
(51:26):
ship that we're talking about that you know, in this
current climate for a lot of people feels real correct
and right. You know, it's the people who are in
power who get to determine what is considered what is
considered a crime, was considered problematic, what is because you know,
so my whole existence would be considered problematic. Oh yeah,
(51:46):
you're going to jail and uh, I won't be able
to stand up with you because all of this is
gonna be Why listen, it's it's just the same way
that we look at the fact that lie Nigga is
really imprisoned for weed right now, while Ashley h and
Ashley Ce have billboards for their new weed dispensary, and
(52:08):
it's like they was they picked the right time. The
ship just swayed, it just changed, it changes, and we
are not nearly as in charge of the changes as
we think we are, and subsequently we are much more
victim than than we care to admit that we we
might be. This is such a fun conversation. Would you
(52:31):
believe this was meant to be the closer? This is
gonna be the end of the combot outside and just
taking nature? Yeah, well, Amanda, this was I had a
good time. I had a great time. I'm a real
sick funck though, so I you know, I'll take it
as I can. This was great. Can you tell the
(52:51):
people where they can find you and what cool ship
you have going on? First? I want to say, though,
that lengthen is always a source of a thought that
I'll that I never think about. I just remember very
specifically asking you a question about Michelle Obama. I'm not
gonna say what the answer was that you gave me,
but I would like that's probably what I said. Well,
(53:14):
I was like, why she cool with George? Why cool
George Bush? Why I remember this convote George Bush? And
your answer was not was something I had never considered.
I mean that, and I had considered a lot, you know,
and you you put another pin on the board, like,
but have you considered this? So this, you know, is
the perfect podcast to your askd That's basically what I think.
(53:37):
That that means the world to me. Um and then
and let me also just publicly thank langs and for
always being willing to show up the ship that I
asked him to do Langston and show up to do
a sketch. She's like, what time I got to be there?
Back and I'll do it. So everybuddy in black, Yeah,
what were we doing this in the back of a
comb book store? No problem? Hey, that was a good
comic book store. It was a good time. As You
(53:57):
can check me out on Patreon, dot com, Backslash, Smart,
Funny and Black. You can also check out my podcast
Small Doses Everywhere Pods are casted. My book Small Doses
is also available in stores and on audible. And you know,
if you don't want to spend any money to check
me out, you can just still go to Instagram because
I'm still in the clutches of the man at a
(54:20):
man at which is the ampersson? Is that theer the
at sign? Amanda seals you don't want and and Amanda seals, well,
please go listen to the podcast, read the book Patreon,
do all the stuff that that you've been instructed to do,
and as always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman.
I ain't going nowhere. I'll be on the White Man's
(54:42):
Instagram forever. Fellow me there, and uh please subscribe, review
the podcast, do all the stupid stuff that they tell
you to do for a podcast. Okay, that's enough by
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