October 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Hey lil moms, here's another old mini episode! Langston and David answer a listener's email about artists placing hidden messages in their music, specifically Candy by Cameo is about cocaine.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Motherfucking Mini Your Sol Mini episode, motherfucking Mini Your Sol.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the
pockets of black conspiracy theories and.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We worked to prove the theories of you, the listener.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Stupid, stupid ass, dumb ass, you dumb motherfucker. You thought
we wouldn't gonna make fun of your bitch ass.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So I didn't notice that you're wearing Team Jordan's and
I saw. I told everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
They and it don't matter which Team Jordan it is.
You know you did the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's team kill yourself, as are those of Blake Griffins.
Cut it out. What is wrong? What are you thinking?
David boy?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm like sin Kerrman and and we're so happy you're here.
We're so excited that you're here because we're we're going
to we're going to do another dive into your conspiracy theories,
the ones you send us to, the to the email
which has been doing really well. We want to say
I think we should thank you for everyone who's been
contacting us. We we love hearing from you. We would
(01:31):
love to hear from you more. Often so, so if
you've been sending, send more, and if you've never sent,
do that ship. And also, hey, leave me the fuck
alone in my uh in my d MS, I don't
I don't want conspiracy theories in my dams. Just send
it to the email that I'm constantly repeating every time.
(01:53):
Sometimes motherfuckers will send me a whole voice memo in
my DMS and it's like, bro, I came here to
reflect on, yeah, all my problems.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, I go in there to look at butts I
would never see on the street.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I like, uh, there was a point, there was this
magic moment in my history. Now, a lot of my
Explore page has turned into like titties and anime. It's
it's a lot of that. But there was a really
sweet spot about like a year and a half two
years ago on Instagram where I would go on my
Explore page and it was strictly like bad bitches and
(02:31):
whale videos.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh wow, that was some time I had, I know
what you mean. Sometimes like sometimes yeah, the Explore page
will hit a righteous level of you, Like sometimes the
Explore page will be the you that you want to be.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, it was so at peace and it was a very.
It was mostly whale videos and then a very occasional
bad bitch. It was like the the exact right curation
of like, you know, I just want to be watching
a fucking a fucking humpback like breach the water and
then every once in a while titties. Yeah that's tight.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
My export page now is it's so scary. Yeah, it's
just like but and then like little boozy and then
like and then like somebody popping a pimple on the back,
and then as an adult, like it's like it's like
a problem.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, you got you got a lot of violence.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You're you're some violence.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's one of I don't mean I don't mean physical violence.
I mean there's an emotional violence so like transpiring in
your Explorer page at all times.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well you know what I figured out because Instagram recently,
I like, I like, like the only word I can
use is smut, Like I like very. I thought it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I thought it'd be a softer word if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, No, I like watching ship that's like crap.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Fig Yeah, I thought I thought when you looked up
at the sky, you were like the only word I
can use. You were sort of finding the softest way
to articulate what you're talking about. But you were like, no,
what's the root word.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, I'm giving you. I'm telling you the real It's gross. Yeah,
it's not even growth, it's just raw. It's just I
just like graphic shit. It's I blame the Internet. I
don't know. Maybe I don't know because you just saw
my mom. She's sweet.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I don't know where she she ain't looking that smut.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
No, no, no, I bet her instagram is like I
bet you, it's like a lot of like Monique and
like smart outfits. Man, I can't imagine what else her
instagram Monique and smart outfits. My mom loves Monique. She
when I was a kid, we used to watch The
Parkers and I don't know what it is, but you
(04:51):
would just be like, I think Monique is so beautiful. Mmm,
she just loves Monique.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I will say that Monique. Monique is very beautiful. Monique,
especially young, I think was was like a very cute lady.
And and now she's a bit of a grumpy gus.
But but but that's that's okay. She had a thriving
career and.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
She she's she's a bit of a grumpy gus and
she's got she's got a few problems that that always
seemed to follow her way.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It's hard to know whose fault it is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She's only got one problem begin either way.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Still still very pretty, still very pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Still. So we we.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Got an email, Yeah, we got an email from somebody
named Jerry. Jerry sent us an email, and Jay, if
it was g I wouldn't read it. I think I
think I deleted it and and flagged as spam.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
If if a I'll say that, if it's a girl
and she's British, fine, I'll live with this. But if
it's a man with G E R R Y contacting me, sir,
we need not speak anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We have nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I don't wish, I don't wish any ill will on
you I do.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How'd you get this number? How do you get.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
This goddamn email?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Jerry? What do you? What are you contacting me for?
It's not good. No, we ain't got nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Jerry, but a regular Jerry sent us an email, uh
where they said, Hey, Langston and David, I sent a
conspiracy theory in before and have another one for you.
Everybody's mad about their conspiracy theories not not being addressed.
Maybe I did address Jerry and I'm just not remembering.
(06:56):
I mean, listen, you got you saw the last one.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I don't know. Smile.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
You think you think I'm skipping my mom's phone calls
so I can rush to your email.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, so I can talk to Jerry. Get out of here. Right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You may not be a g Jerry, but you're still
a Jerry guy.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. Yeah, don't forget. You're named after a cartoon mouse.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Or a pedophilic comedian. You name which Wanna and.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
She was seventeen. We all knew it. I don't know
how he got away with that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
He got away with it, Scott free is a move
and then kept telling jokes about like how how apples
are weird or whatever it is that that comedy is about.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
That's who you need to look at. As these weirdos
talking about apples on stage. I will say, there's a
reason they don't want to discuss sex, because they're doing
it weird. Look dog.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The people who are like the most like innocuous, I
ain't talking about nothing always end up pretty odd.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
They seem to have no like conflict any comedian who
seems to have no conflict actually within their act, like
no like existential crisis or nothing like that. Don't trust them.
I don't give a fuck. Who'll say what blood? Oh crap?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, like it truly like it's it's it's you don't
even It's not that you have to be like and
that's when I did this and murdered that or whatever
the fuck it is, but like, you truly gotta at
least be like, hey, my dad was weird.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, like yeah, or something bad things sometimes or something.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, you gotta some there's gotta be a little bite
otherwise you've you do some biting elsewhere, and that's that's
not good. So Jerry's that Heylanson and David I sent
the conspiracy and before and I have another one for you.
My mama told me that music and artists put hidden
messages in their music, not to rainwashed folks, but just
(09:01):
subtle messages that would not be easily picked up if
we weren't paying attention to The song at the top
of the list, Candy by Cameo, is supposed to be
about doing cocaine. There are a few others, like Pretty
Wings being about someone dying although that seems obvious. I
mean sodas candy, hm hmm, being about cocaine.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, have you heard that? Yes, cocaine, you idiot, that
whole song you can You didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Hear that dude grinding his teeth between takes on that
on that song. I will say.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
O that ship was that was very apparent.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, he's definitely talking about drugs and or but and
probably both.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I would like to think.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, it's like it's like how twenty one Savage mixes
between murder and sex, like between bars. Imagine that's what
the cameo song was doing, where it's like this this
line's about ass, but this line that's cocaine.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, it's but it's all, it's all. It's a similar
d compulsion. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But to Jerry's question, is there a possibility, let's expand
it because I do think that Jerry's examples might not
be sort of the most like elusive ones, right, they
feel a little front facing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But do your songs about Chicago?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
When he's talking about Wendy. When Kanye is talking about Wendy,
he's actually talking about the city of wind Chicago.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I was just with my friend ray Sean longtime listener,
and she said she did not know that that was
what that song was about.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
He says, I'm talking about Shia. He said, is it?
At the end? Also, nobody says no one's name is
Wendy it?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But wait because when I listened to the song, one
of the things that infuriates me the most about it
is the moment when he goes and just so you know,
this whole song's about Chicago.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yes, if you couldn't tell, I could tell from the
first one.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's literally in like the first couple of lines. But
like then he's like, just to be clear, I the
metaphor was Chicago.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This was the craziest part. She was like, I was
so used to hearing that song when I was partying
that I never caught that part. And I was like,
you were partying to I'm only saying this all out
because she's gonna listen to this and text me, But yeah,
I was like, you were partying to Kanye west't Adam Levine? Yeah, no,
it was Chris Martin.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It was.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Fair enough. Chris Martin cheated on Gwyneth Paltrow, Adam Levine
cheated on a much less famous Gwyneth Paltrow. I imagine what
band is Chris martin Man cold Play.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh that he featured a British dude on his song
about ut. Oh you don't like you don't like nothing
they do. Oh that's not fair, that's not And I.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Don't like Radiohead.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, I know people get upset about me about the Radiohead.
It sounds like, oh, it sounds like nothing. I can't
explain it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's an but that's an insane comparison.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, these are just two things they don't like. I
don't mean that they're related, Okay, I just think.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I just think in the future, let's put a little
distance between cold Play and Radiohead. I think, I think
whatever we feel about the bands, and I respect you
not liking their music, they're they're not You're you're mixing
dark and light liquors in all day.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I understand. You know that was a that was a
coconut rum whiskey situation.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, and in a way that like one of those
you were talking about, like a fifteen year old Scotch
and the other one you're talking about fucking like those
little high balls they sell at the front of the
liquor store.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know which one is the Scotch, which one is
the shooter.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Radiohead is amazing, truly like one of the greatest bands
to ever do. Band stuff, if that's what you're into, Yeah,
it gets it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Band stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, I don't. I'm not a musician.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I just and Maroon five is trash.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
No, you see, you don't even remember what band you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And cold Play, I would say, has had a number
of hits, but also is sometimes just making noise, okay,
and it's it's hard to tell which one they're doing
at which time, right, But they've got some they got
some jams. But I respect that you don't like either.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, and this isn't the same. I feel like people
always often I like white music. I just I don't
like those two bad. I like white people's music.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I think, what's your go to white white group or
or or Stolly Parton Okay, you're a Dolly man mm
hmmm go.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
To I don't know. It's just it really depends because
there's so much of it. It just really depends on
the day. Mmm, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Sure, So you you're not just a one a one
and done shooter.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You're you're more like and I like you got some
people you like? I listen, Yeah, I like. I like
punk rock music as well. It just it just really depends.
But I don't like cold Play or Radiohead, and I
know that Radiohead is like very different on different albums,
but it doesn't matter. It could be kid A, it
could be whatever. I just don't.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, So no cold Play, no Radiohead, and clearly no
Maroon five because.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No Maroon five is kind of because it's very rhythmic.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Oh you like Maroon five, I don't hate it.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Whoa, there's very raised what's ro walking down the street? Yeah,
that's that's that's all. More than five more five has
a black.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Guy in it. Now they've changed? Is that? No? They
have not gotten.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They have not become a better band over you know what.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I found out. I saw a picture, come to find out.
You know there's more black people than white people in
the Dave Matthews band. Yeah, they're always has been. What
are we gonna do about this? When are we gonna
stand up to this injustice? I saw a picture. I
(15:40):
was like, you all let him get away with scatting.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's wild it's and what's crazy is and I'm not
a Dave Matthews fan, so I don't I don't have
the names to be able to pair this up, but
everybody I've ever spoken to has almost like made it up.
Even people who are fans of his ship are like, yeah, objectively,
he is the worst member of the band. Like it's
(16:02):
not even close that like the fucking fiddlest and the
guitar guy or whoever, the all those black dudes with
blonde dreads that he's been employing for years are insanely
like some of the most gifted musicians on the planet.
And then he's just okay, and.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He put his name on it. Imagine if everybody hated
cool and loved the gang. That's upside down.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, no, it's it surely doesn't make sense, but that
is in fact what he did, and clearly nobody's fighting it.
Did you know that when when bands sign to a
record label, only the lead singer signs.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So like if what, so, let's say I go in
to Island def Jam, They're only gonna sign two in,
not the mateles.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's right, That's exactly that's I think that is true,
which is why it's always the uh the lead singer
is like branching off to go. Do you know it's
justin Timberlake. Is Lee is going to do a solo
album within sync until he Yeah, the other guys just
got to chill.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And I've said this a lot of times on this podcast.
That's why Zap and Roger were so smart. Ah right
they separated. Yeah? Yeah, Also I think one killed the other.
Is that true. I'm pretty sure Zap killed Roger. Maybe
the other way around. They were WHOA, that's a dark story.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Was it a was it an affair or was it
like I just don't fuck with you know, Mike.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I can't remember. It was just one of those times
I was just on Wikipedia Wiland. Whoa.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He was like, you stole my voice machine. I'm gonna
murder you.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It was something weird because I think the brothers there's
Zapp and Roger Troutman, right, fuck, I don't know, we
have an email. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
All right, Roger try In an updated Polblicity photo, probably
from the early eighties, Troutman, a musician and leader of
the band Zapp, was shot and killed by his brother
Larry Troutman.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it wasn't Roger was Larry.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, Larry apparently Roger and the band.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Everybody knows his piece of band, but I'm the talent Larry.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Roger was killed by Larry in nineteen ninety nine. April
twenty fifth, nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, I mean, I think Larry was short for His
nickname was Zap. I'll be was like, I'm a zapio ass,
Larry zap troutman. Larry's zap troutman. God damn well for
all our zapp fans that have been listening, I'm sorry
to break the news to you, but Roger's dead. Roger's
(18:52):
been dead.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
For almost thirty years now. Yeah. I think at its
core there may be some hidden messages that are that
are often put into music, and I think maybe looking
more towards some of the more elusive writers might help
(19:18):
to to ground some of it. Like I think about
like Frank Ocean right like, he has songs that feel
like they're about something without ever really being about something.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
If that's sometimes like themed albums and.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Right yeah, where like if you listen enough throughout, you
will gather a general story of what he's talking about,
but you're not necessarily sitting and tracking like a start
to finish narrative, not like right, yeah, No, it's nothing
like that. It's closer to like to pimple butterfly frank.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right, Okay, yeah, I think there's I think there's merit
to this, like, yeah, definitely. I think that's writing, right,
That's why, that's why writing is so great. Like I
was just read man, I don't want to sound like
a nerd after fucking Casmo my face off. I was
reading are you still hurting from when you?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I had to go underwater for a little bit. I
was reading JD. Salinger has this book and this like,
he has this book called Nine Stories and this one Clownfish.
Have you ever read that?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
No, I've never read.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The only JD.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Salinger I've read is uh catching a Rye.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, if you read Nine Stories, I think you'll like him,
maybe even more. But I like. I read it and
then I read it. I had read it again because
it's a short story, and I had read it again
and I was like, I don't think I know what's
going on here, and I went online and looked it
up and then I was like, Oh, this is this
whole guy who's like telling his war trauma to this
(20:51):
child on the beach. Y. I just mean it's like
it's like a regular trick that in literature and writing
that people will use, like disguised messages and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I think, yeah, to your point, it just is
how you make writing more interest.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
If we all are just explicitly stating the thing that
happened to us, it gets a little bland after exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's that's the that's the that's the fun of it,
that's the flourish, right double yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I think about uh that that OJ song Brandy. I
don't know if you you ever heard this when you
were younger, but but there are some who believe that
that song is about a woman. Obviously it sounds like
he's singing about a woman who left him. But there
are a lot who argue that that song is about
his dog who who ran away and it really and
(21:42):
it's just the whole thing either ran away or died.
I can't remember if Brandy is dead or just not
with us and you know, not nearby, but either way,
it's about the dog, not about a lady.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
See. And I always thought that song was about how
he has to quit drinking ian J.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, this it's just him with a massive hangover, being like,
I really miss you, Brandy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I gotta let you go.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, if you know for sure, if you're in if
you're in touch with UH, Who's daddy was that?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
That was? Uh? From OJS? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
From the leads from the ojys.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It was a fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Jerald Levert's daddy, I think is the lead singer of
the OJS. But anyway, if you're in touch with Jerald
Levert's daddy, you contact him and you find out if
that song is about the dog or about his unhealthy
relationship with Ian j or if.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You're in contact with Jerald LeVert or really any of
the members of Lavert Sweat Gil, let him know I'm
thinking about him.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, unfortunately, Jeral LeVert is no longer with us, but
Jeral dead. Jeral Levert's been dead for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I had no idea. Yeah, no, he's gone. He was
that the whole time. But I think probably he was
like he was.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I do think he had a pretty tragic like a
heart or a brain thing. I remember, it was not
it was a big surprise kind of vibe that Gerald
Avert suddenly was dead. Okay, I didn't I didn't know
even I had no idea. Yeah, but Keith Sweat still
out here, Keith Sweat doesn't even age bro forever, I
(23:27):
fucking man, you know. You know that's his real name, Sweat. Yeah,
it's a family name. Yeah what he gotta change his
name for the industry changed for him.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
His mother's name is Janita Sweat anyways, And that's not
a metaphor, that's just straight up that's what you're telling people,
who who the fuck you are when your name is
Watanita Sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So yes, I do think. I also do think.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think there are a lot of great examples of
where like metaphor sort of like does exist, And obviously
it is with the intention sometimes of swaying us. I
would say, like I and we didn't talk about this yet,
but when I read this email, one of the things
that I thought about is if this is dangerous, And
I do think there are times where it does get dangerous,
(24:21):
where the hidden messages, as they were, are not so
much about a story device or a thing that you've experienced,
but more about a brand that they want us to
to sort of be like remembering or committing to or
whatever the fuck. And I imagine now more than ever,
people are rapping about shit that also they are selling
(24:44):
or being told to sell or what makes.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Me satis I don't think they even aren't actually selling it.
A lot of times, I think they're just I don't
want to get into this, but materialism is the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Oh you think it's just vanity, and then subsequently we
become victims of their vanity. I think that's most of it.
I don't think blood Siago has given out that many checks.
Well here's the thing or whoever not, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
This is what.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Makes me think that it's it's a little more complicated
than just their vanity. Is I learned that music videos
are one paid for by the artists, right that like,
there's there's no version of like, oh the record labels
paying for this. What they do is they allot you
a certain amount of money for like, you know, promotions, media,
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whatever the fuck it is, and you can spend some
of your money that they've allotted towards your music video, whatever, whatever, whatever.
But then I've also now learned that part of the
way that artists recoup the bread that they've been spending
is by adding branding into the music videos and like
wearing specific shoes or driving a specific car, or drinking
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a specific drink in order to do the thing right.
And so subsequently that makes me feel like it's very
very likely that that is also true for music that
you're writing, that you're performing connecting to you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's also like product placement in videos. The older we
get has been has been more and more apparent.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Right, Yeah, I feel that way even with like sports too,
Like I don't remember Coming to America.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Movie was did you see the Newest One?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It was a fucking commercial. It was like, oh man,
thank god I got this Sarack Obama to cool me
off on this hot, hot damn branded hat.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
You africant so crazy? Yeah, it truly was a it was.
It was great ass commercial for Rick Ross's house. I
think just everything Rick Ross was connected to.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
But but I think at its core we're talking about
the same thing. We're saying that there's a possibility that like, yeah,
you're rapping, you know, you're rapping about some fly ship,
but Balinciaga specifically is sponsoring some of that fly ship.
So yeah, I'm gonna say Balenciaga instead of just like
leaving it at you know, Gucci or Fantee or whatever
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the fuck you're actually wearing or interested in.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Blah blah blah blah blah. No, that's a yeah, No,
that's fair. I think it's like, I just don't think
it's going anywhere. I think it's entails all his time.
It always will be so oftentimes and oftentimes, And to
be fair to this point is like, sometimes I'll see
some shit that's actually about another some other ship, and
I'll get like excited. But you've never seen that movie,
the Legend of Bagadvance.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I have never sat down, and I thought it was
just a coon movie.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And then it turns out it's it's the Bagaika, the
Hindu text. Oh far less.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So wait, this is a like a Hindu story that
they're adapting with.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
That's the story of the warrior king or whatever. Yeah,
somebody they taught me that in high school.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
But then they adapted into Matt Damon plays golf with
Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, that's why they have all these weird sounding names
like Ranulph Juna. That's an Indian.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Name though, whoa, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, that's just what my high school teacher told me.
It might be wrong. I remember, yeah, we we we
we we we we terrorized her. I remember this girl, Sasha.
She asked her she was a virgin. Is the funniest
thing I've ever seen in high school. She raised her
hand and she she was like Sasha, and she was like,
mister gear, you a virgin.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I've had a student do that to me. And and
I will say, I've never wanted to fight a person
more than.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's the funniest thing you could do to a teacher
as a child.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
He and he what made it so obnoxious was that
he was sort of like this very meek, very sort
of like not that that wild ass kid that you
would expect to be the one doing it. And so
it made it more like he sincerely didn't know. But
I feel like he was just fucking with me, you
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know what I mean. Like it wasn't to steal on. Yeah,
he just was like, this will fix my my awkward
high school experience if I air out this motherfucker all
my peers.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, and it, to be honest, it might have worked.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
He got the wrong one. What was the reaction I
aired him? I heard, I shot back, baby, are you
a virgin? What we're doing what's up? I was like, nah,
are you you know what I mean? Like, I'm I
ain't not for a second am I sitting in that feeling?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, come on, big dog, I made it through high school.
You ain't about to get me. It might be your dad.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You're right, because because the fear that they're they're hoping
I'm gonna play in is be like, well, I can't
reply because this is sexualizing a teen or or putting
a you know, na, look he what's up?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Who you fucking? Who you fucking? Who you be with?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Because no, I'm not just gonna sit in that feeling
and if my job is on the line afterwards, so
goddamn be it.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And then all the students were like, hey, mister Kerman, yeah,
like you have like some cool Nah, I couldn't do it.
I just.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, in part because I was much younger than everybody
on the status. Yeah, And so in that way I
think they were they were worried that like if I
became too familiar, it would sort of it was already
a challenge, sort of like not you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm not saying you, but that's how people end up
fucking students.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I think, So you become too like too much of
a friend.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And then it's happened in my high school. I've seen it.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, I never wanted to be their friends.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh man, their teens. I didn't fuck the teacher. No
good for you. I mean I would have had the
opportunity arisen.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
To fuck one of your teachers.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, I would have, But I don't think it would
have gone because here's what happened. Is like a student
in my high school did it. And it was the
little brother of somebody that I was close to. It
was a boy girls, It wasn't a male teacher having
It was a female teacher having stess with a man,
the one that you always think is cool. But then
when it happened, when it happened the way it shook out,
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I was like, oh this is yeah, she she's that
was that was That was abuse, and it ruined his life.
It really fucked up that little boy's life.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think it's ever
as cool as we am iagined it would be true.
I was wishing, Oh I would have happily done it
in in high school and and never looked back at
my therapist. Yeah, I would have looked back at my therapist.
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As I'm leaving, I would say, am I gonna be okay?
And she'd have been like, I don't know, it's gonna
be a rough road. See you next week, big man.
She called me big man because there's the closeness.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Now. Yeah, no, I understand. Listen, we're all in too
deep anyways. Secret messages and music. I believe it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, I think that. I think that's one hundred percent possible.
I think there is. In fact, it's more than likely
that there are secret messages, some more harmful than others.
And the best thing we can do is, uh is,
just listen to the messages from people we like.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You know, m.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, hug your loved ones while while future sings to
you about why Gucci is the best of all the brands.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
If she catching cheating, catch me cheating, I will never
tell her. Sorry. Yeah, I was that not militarizing the population. Bro,
he is an animal.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
If that's not the secret message that makes you a
fucking the type of person that slips a puppy's throat.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I don't know that. Man. God damn, he raps like
he doesn't have a mom.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, it's like, bro, you have in your family you
have so many kids, there has to be a daughter
in there someway.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, it's really wild.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
And not that it should require a daughter for you
to be even remotely humane. But but at the same time,
god damn.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah. Yeah. His music makes me feel like a prude sometimes,
you know, like sometimes you listen to Super Gangster Rapp
and you're like, oh, I'm not I'm not like Benny
the Butcher. Yeah, that's not feel the future. My heart
longs for love. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No, I know everybody is always judgmental of things, but
I've never related to jay Z more than four four
four where I was like, Oh, this is just a
man who goes to work and trying to do better.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I get that, man. That's that's that's the longevity. I'm
looking for it.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
When he was talking about cocaine, I didn't get that
motherfucker at all.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I told my friends I did.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, No, I pretended to, and.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I tried tried as hard as I could.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But and I enjoyed trying. I can't think of an
artist I enjoyed trying with more. But but did I
get it?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I didn't get it. But when he when he got
to being like, hey, man, I just wanna. I just
want to learn to stretch in the morning and and
check check stocks. It was like, yeah, jay Z, I
get it. I like this relatable.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I also eat grapefruit with a spoon the little no
I eat it. I eat the wedges because I'm still
I'm still out here. I feel it like an orange uncle. Fuck.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I love that for you. Well, Jerry with the Jay,
I believe this should have answered your question. There definitely
are conspiracy theories. Next time you come to us, you
come with something better than the very coked out band
cameo talking about candy as a reference to cocaine.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
People call it nose candy. They just cut off one word.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Jesus Christ, Jerry, you've made a fool of yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Again yet again. This is quite.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Possibly your second time around the Bend, and this is
what the fuck you came back with. Jerry, you make
us sick. Fucking Well, that's about it, by bitch.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the
pockets of black conspiracy theories and.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We worked to prove the theories of you, the listener.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Stupid, stupid ass, dumb ass, you dumb motherfucker. You thought
we wouldn't gonna make fun of your bitch ass.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So I didn't notice that you're wearing Team Jordan's and
I saw. I told everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
They and it don't matter which Team Jordan it is.
You know you did the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's team kill yourself, as are those of Blake Griffins.
Cut it out. What is wrong? What are you thinking?
David boy?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm like sin Kerrman and and we're so happy you're here.
We're so excited that you're here because we're we're going
to we're going to do another dive into your conspiracy theories,
the ones you send us to, the to the email
which has been doing really well. We want to say
I think we should thank you for everyone who's been
contacting us. We we love hearing from you. We would
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love to hear from you more. Often so, so if
you've been sending, send more, and if you've never sent,
do that ship. And also, hey, leave me the fuck
alone in my uh in my d MS, I don't
I don't want conspiracy theories in my dams. Just send
it to the email that I'm constantly repeating every time.
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Sometimes motherfuckers will send me a whole voice memo in
my DMS and it's like, bro, I came here to
reflect on, yeah, all my problems.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, I go in there to look at butts I
would never see on the street.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I like, uh, there was a point, there was this
magic moment in my history. Now, a lot of my
Explore page has turned into like titties and anime. It's
it's a lot of that. But there was a really
sweet spot about like a year and a half two
years ago on Instagram where I would go on my
Explore page and it was strictly like bad bitches and
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whale videos.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh wow, that was some time I had, I know
what you mean. Sometimes like sometimes yeah, the Explore page
will hit a righteous level of you, Like sometimes the
Explore page will be the you that you want to be.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, it was so at peace and it was a very.
It was mostly whale videos and then a very occasional
bad bitch. It was like the the exact right curation
of like, you know, I just want to be watching
a fucking a fucking humpback like breach the water and
then every once in a while titties. Yeah that's tight.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
My export page now is it's so scary. Yeah, it's
just like but and then like little boozy and then
like and then like somebody popping a pimple on the back,
and then as an adult, like it's like it's like
a problem.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, you got you got a lot of violence.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You're you're some violence.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's one of I don't mean I don't mean physical violence.
I mean there's an emotional violence so like transpiring in
your Explorer page at all times.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well you know what I figured out because Instagram recently,
I like, I like, like the only word I can
use is smut, Like I like very. I thought it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I thought it'd be a softer word if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, No, I like watching ship that's like crap.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Fig Yeah, I thought I thought when you looked up
at the sky, you were like the only word I
can use. You were sort of finding the softest way
to articulate what you're talking about. But you were like, no,
what's the root word.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, I'm giving you. I'm telling you the real It's gross. Yeah,
it's not even growth, it's just raw. It's just I
just like graphic shit. It's I blame the Internet. I
don't know. Maybe I don't know because you just saw
my mom. She's sweet.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I don't know where she she ain't looking that smut.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
No, no, no, I bet her instagram is like I
bet you, it's like a lot of like Monique and
like smart outfits. Man, I can't imagine what else her
instagram Monique and smart outfits. My mom loves Monique. She
when I was a kid, we used to watch The
Parkers and I don't know what it is, but you
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would just be like, I think Monique is so beautiful. Mmm,
she just loves Monique.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I will say that Monique. Monique is very beautiful. Monique,
especially young, I think was was like a very cute lady.
And and now she's a bit of a grumpy gus.
But but but that's that's okay. She had a thriving
career and.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
She she's she's a bit of a grumpy gus and
she's got she's got a few problems that that always
seemed to follow her way.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It's hard to know whose fault it is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She's only got one problem begin either way.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Still still very pretty, still very pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Still. So we we.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Got an email, Yeah, we got an email from somebody
named Jerry. Jerry sent us an email, and Jay, if
it was g I wouldn't read it. I think I
think I deleted it and and flagged as spam.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
If if a I'll say that, if it's a girl
and she's British, fine, I'll live with this. But if
it's a man with G E R R Y contacting me, sir,
we need not speak anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We have nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I don't wish, I don't wish any ill will on
you I do.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How'd you get this number? How do you get.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
This goddamn email?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Jerry? What do you? What are you contacting me for?
It's not good. No, we ain't got nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Jerry, but a regular Jerry sent us an email, uh
where they said, Hey, Langston and David, I sent a
conspiracy theory in before and have another one for you.
Everybody's mad about their conspiracy theories not not being addressed.
Maybe I did address Jerry and I'm just not remembering.
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I mean, listen, you got you saw the last one.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I don't know. Smile.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
You think you think I'm skipping my mom's phone calls
so I can rush to your email.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, so I can talk to Jerry. Get out of here. Right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You may not be a g Jerry, but you're still
a Jerry guy.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. Yeah, don't forget. You're named after a cartoon mouse.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Or a pedophilic comedian. You name which Wanna and.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
She was seventeen. We all knew it. I don't know
how he got away with that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
He got away with it, Scott free is a move
and then kept telling jokes about like how how apples
are weird or whatever it is that that comedy is about.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
That's who you need to look at. As these weirdos
talking about apples on stage. I will say, there's a
reason they don't want to discuss sex, because they're doing
it weird. Look dog.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The people who are like the most like innocuous, I
ain't talking about nothing always end up pretty odd.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
They seem to have no like conflict any comedian who
seems to have no conflict actually within their act, like
no like existential crisis or nothing like that. Don't trust them.
I don't give a fuck. Who'll say what blood? Oh crap?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, like it truly like it's it's it's you don't
even It's not that you have to be like and
that's when I did this and murdered that or whatever
the fuck it is, but like, you truly gotta at
least be like, hey, my dad was weird.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, like yeah, or something bad things sometimes or something.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, you gotta some there's gotta be a little bite
otherwise you've you do some biting elsewhere, and that's that's
not good. So Jerry's that Heylanson and David I sent
the conspiracy and before and I have another one for you.
My mama told me that music and artists put hidden
messages in their music, not to rainwashed folks, but just
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subtle messages that would not be easily picked up if
we weren't paying attention to The song at the top
of the list, Candy by Cameo, is supposed to be
about doing cocaine. There are a few others, like Pretty
Wings being about someone dying although that seems obvious. I
mean sodas candy, hm hmm, being about cocaine.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, have you heard that? Yes, cocaine, you idiot, that
whole song you can You didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Hear that dude grinding his teeth between takes on that
on that song. I will say.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
O that ship was that was very apparent.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, he's definitely talking about drugs and or but and
probably both.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I would like to think.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, it's like it's like how twenty one Savage mixes
between murder and sex, like between bars. Imagine that's what
the cameo song was doing, where it's like this this
line's about ass, but this line that's cocaine.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, it's but it's all, it's all. It's a similar
d compulsion. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But to Jerry's question, is there a possibility, let's expand
it because I do think that Jerry's examples might not
be sort of the most like elusive ones, right, they
feel a little front facing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But do your songs about Chicago?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
When he's talking about Wendy. When Kanye is talking about Wendy,
he's actually talking about the city of wind Chicago.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I was just with my friend ray Sean longtime listener,
and she said she did not know that that was
what that song was about.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
He says, I'm talking about Shia. He said, is it?
At the end? Also, nobody says no one's name is
Wendy it?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But wait because when I listened to the song, one
of the things that infuriates me the most about it
is the moment when he goes and just so you know,
this whole song's about Chicago.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yes, if you couldn't tell, I could tell from the
first one.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's literally in like the first couple of lines. But
like then he's like, just to be clear, I the
metaphor was Chicago.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This was the craziest part. She was like, I was
so used to hearing that song when I was partying
that I never caught that part. And I was like,
you were partying to I'm only saying this all out
because she's gonna listen to this and text me, But yeah,
I was like, you were partying to Kanye west't Adam Levine? Yeah, no,
it was Chris Martin.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It was.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Fair enough. Chris Martin cheated on Gwyneth Paltrow, Adam Levine
cheated on a much less famous Gwyneth Paltrow. I imagine what
band is Chris martin Man cold Play.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh that he featured a British dude on his song
about ut. Oh you don't like you don't like nothing
they do. Oh that's not fair, that's not And I.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Don't like Radiohead.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, I know people get upset about me about the Radiohead.
It sounds like, oh, it sounds like nothing. I can't
explain it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's an but that's an insane comparison.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, these are just two things they don't like. I
don't mean that they're related, Okay, I just think.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I just think in the future, let's put a little
distance between cold Play and Radiohead. I think, I think
whatever we feel about the bands, and I respect you
not liking their music, they're they're not You're you're mixing
dark and light liquors in all day.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I understand. You know that was a that was a
coconut rum whiskey situation.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, and in a way that like one of those
you were talking about, like a fifteen year old Scotch
and the other one you're talking about fucking like those
little high balls they sell at the front of the
liquor store.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know which one is the Scotch, which one is
the shooter.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Radiohead is amazing, truly like one of the greatest bands
to ever do. Band stuff, if that's what you're into, Yeah,
it gets it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Band stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, I don't. I'm not a musician.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I just and Maroon five is trash.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
No, you see, you don't even remember what band you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And cold Play, I would say, has had a number
of hits, but also is sometimes just making noise, okay,
and it's it's hard to tell which one they're doing
at which time, right, But they've got some they got
some jams. But I respect that you don't like either.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, and this isn't the same. I feel like people
always often I like white music. I just I don't
like those two bad. I like white people's music.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I think, what's your go to white white group or
or or Stolly Parton Okay, you're a Dolly man mm
hmmm go.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
To I don't know. It's just it really depends because
there's so much of it. It just really depends on
the day. Mmm, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Sure, So you you're not just a one a one
and done shooter.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You're you're more like and I like you got some
people you like? I listen, Yeah, I like. I like
punk rock music as well. It just it just really depends.
But I don't like cold Play or Radiohead, and I
know that Radiohead is like very different on different albums,
but it doesn't matter. It could be kid A, it
could be whatever. I just don't.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, So no cold Play, no Radiohead, and clearly no
Maroon five because.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No Maroon five is kind of because it's very rhythmic.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Oh you like Maroon five, I don't hate it.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Whoa, there's very raised what's ro walking down the street? Yeah,
that's that's that's all. More than five more five has
a black.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Guy in it. Now they've changed? Is that? No? They
have not gotten.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They have not become a better band over you know what.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I found out. I saw a picture, come to find out.
You know there's more black people than white people in
the Dave Matthews band. Yeah, they're always has been. What
are we gonna do about this? When are we gonna
stand up to this injustice? I saw a picture. I
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was like, you all let him get away with scatting.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's wild it's and what's crazy is and I'm not
a Dave Matthews fan, so I don't I don't have
the names to be able to pair this up, but
everybody I've ever spoken to has almost like made it up.
Even people who are fans of his ship are like, yeah, objectively,
he is the worst member of the band. Like it's
(16:02):
not even close that like the fucking fiddlest and the
guitar guy or whoever, the all those black dudes with
blonde dreads that he's been employing for years are insanely
like some of the most gifted musicians on the planet.
And then he's just okay, and.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He put his name on it. Imagine if everybody hated
cool and loved the gang. That's upside down.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, no, it's it surely doesn't make sense, but that
is in fact what he did, and clearly nobody's fighting it.
Did you know that when when bands sign to a
record label, only the lead singer signs.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So like if what, so, let's say I go in
to Island def Jam, They're only gonna sign two in,
not the mateles.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's right, That's exactly that's I think that is true,
which is why it's always the uh the lead singer
is like branching off to go. Do you know it's
justin Timberlake. Is Lee is going to do a solo
album within sync until he Yeah, the other guys just
got to chill.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And I've said this a lot of times on this podcast.
That's why Zap and Roger were so smart. Ah right
they separated. Yeah? Yeah, Also I think one killed the other.
Is that true. I'm pretty sure Zap killed Roger. Maybe
the other way around. They were WHOA, that's a dark story.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Was it a was it an affair or was it
like I just don't fuck with you know, Mike.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I can't remember. It was just one of those times
I was just on Wikipedia Wiland. Whoa.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He was like, you stole my voice machine. I'm gonna
murder you.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It was something weird because I think the brothers there's
Zapp and Roger Troutman, right, fuck, I don't know, we
have an email. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
All right, Roger try In an updated Polblicity photo, probably
from the early eighties, Troutman, a musician and leader of
the band Zapp, was shot and killed by his brother
Larry Troutman.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it wasn't Roger was Larry.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, Larry apparently Roger and the band.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Everybody knows his piece of band, but I'm the talent Larry.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Roger was killed by Larry in nineteen ninety nine. April
twenty fifth, nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, I mean, I think Larry was short for His
nickname was Zap. I'll be was like, I'm a zapio ass,
Larry zap troutman. Larry's zap troutman. God damn well for
all our zapp fans that have been listening, I'm sorry
to break the news to you, but Roger's dead. Roger's
(18:52):
been dead.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
For almost thirty years now. Yeah. I think at its
core there may be some hidden messages that are that
are often put into music, and I think maybe looking
more towards some of the more elusive writers might help
(19:18):
to to ground some of it. Like I think about
like Frank Ocean right like, he has songs that feel
like they're about something without ever really being about something.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
If that's sometimes like themed albums and.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Right yeah, where like if you listen enough throughout, you
will gather a general story of what he's talking about,
but you're not necessarily sitting and tracking like a start
to finish narrative, not like right, yeah, No, it's nothing
like that. It's closer to like to pimple butterfly frank.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right, Okay, yeah, I think there's I think there's merit
to this, like, yeah, definitely. I think that's writing, right,
That's why, that's why writing is so great. Like I
was just read man, I don't want to sound like
a nerd after fucking Casmo my face off. I was
reading are you still hurting from when you?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I had to go underwater for a little bit. I
was reading JD. Salinger has this book and this like,
he has this book called Nine Stories and this one Clownfish.
Have you ever read that?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
No, I've never read.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The only JD.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Salinger I've read is uh catching a Rye.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, if you read Nine Stories, I think you'll like him,
maybe even more. But I like. I read it and
then I read it. I had read it again because
it's a short story, and I had read it again
and I was like, I don't think I know what's
going on here, and I went online and looked it
up and then I was like, Oh, this is this
whole guy who's like telling his war trauma to this
(20:51):
child on the beach. Y. I just mean it's like
it's like a regular trick that in literature and writing
that people will use, like disguised messages and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I think, yeah, to your point, it just is
how you make writing more interest.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
If we all are just explicitly stating the thing that
happened to us, it gets a little bland after exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's that's the that's the that's the fun of it,
that's the flourish, right double yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I think about uh that that OJ song Brandy. I
don't know if you you ever heard this when you
were younger, but but there are some who believe that
that song is about a woman. Obviously it sounds like
he's singing about a woman who left him. But there
are a lot who argue that that song is about
his dog who who ran away and it really and
(21:42):
it's just the whole thing either ran away or died.
I can't remember if Brandy is dead or just not
with us and you know, not nearby, but either way,
it's about the dog, not about a lady.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
See. And I always thought that song was about how
he has to quit drinking ian J.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, this it's just him with a massive hangover, being like,
I really miss you, Brandy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I gotta let you go.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, if you know for sure, if you're in if
you're in touch with UH, Who's daddy was that?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
That was? Uh? From OJS? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
From the leads from the ojys.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It was a fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Jerald Levert's daddy, I think is the lead singer of
the OJS. But anyway, if you're in touch with Jerald
Levert's daddy, you contact him and you find out if
that song is about the dog or about his unhealthy
relationship with Ian j or if.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You're in contact with Jerald LeVert or really any of
the members of Lavert Sweat Gil, let him know I'm
thinking about him.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, unfortunately, Jeral LeVert is no longer with us, but
Jeral dead. Jeral Levert's been dead for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I had no idea. Yeah, no, he's gone. He was
that the whole time. But I think probably he was
like he was.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I do think he had a pretty tragic like a
heart or a brain thing. I remember, it was not
it was a big surprise kind of vibe that Gerald
Avert suddenly was dead. Okay, I didn't I didn't know
even I had no idea. Yeah, but Keith Sweat still
out here, Keith Sweat doesn't even age bro forever, I
(23:27):
fucking man, you know. You know that's his real name, Sweat. Yeah,
it's a family name. Yeah what he gotta change his
name for the industry changed for him.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
His mother's name is Janita Sweat anyways, And that's not
a metaphor, that's just straight up that's what you're telling people,
who who the fuck you are when your name is
Watanita Sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So yes, I do think. I also do think.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think there are a lot of great examples of
where like metaphor sort of like does exist, And obviously
it is with the intention sometimes of swaying us. I
would say, like I and we didn't talk about this yet,
but when I read this email, one of the things
that I thought about is if this is dangerous, And
I do think there are times where it does get dangerous,
(24:21):
where the hidden messages, as they were, are not so
much about a story device or a thing that you've experienced,
but more about a brand that they want us to
to sort of be like remembering or committing to or
whatever the fuck. And I imagine now more than ever,
people are rapping about shit that also they are selling
(24:44):
or being told to sell or what makes.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Me satis I don't think they even aren't actually selling it.
A lot of times, I think they're just I don't
want to get into this, but materialism is the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Oh you think it's just vanity, and then subsequently we
become victims of their vanity. I think that's most of it.
I don't think blood Siago has given out that many checks.
Well here's the thing or whoever not, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
This is what.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Makes me think that it's it's a little more complicated
than just their vanity. Is I learned that music videos
are one paid for by the artists, right that like,
there's there's no version of like, oh the record labels
paying for this. What they do is they allot you
a certain amount of money for like, you know, promotions, media,
(25:29):
whatever the fuck it is, and you can spend some
of your money that they've allotted towards your music video, whatever, whatever, whatever.
But then I've also now learned that part of the
way that artists recoup the bread that they've been spending
is by adding branding into the music videos and like
wearing specific shoes or driving a specific car, or drinking
(25:51):
a specific drink in order to do the thing right.
And so subsequently that makes me feel like it's very
very likely that that is also true for music that
you're writing, that you're performing connecting to you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's also like product placement in videos. The older we
get has been has been more and more apparent.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Right, Yeah, I feel that way even with like sports too,
Like I don't remember Coming to America.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Movie was did you see the Newest One?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It was a fucking commercial. It was like, oh man,
thank god I got this Sarack Obama to cool me
off on this hot, hot damn branded hat.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
You africant so crazy? Yeah, it truly was a it was.
It was great ass commercial for Rick Ross's house. I
think just everything Rick Ross was connected to.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
But but I think at its core we're talking about
the same thing. We're saying that there's a possibility that like, yeah,
you're rapping, you know, you're rapping about some fly ship,
but Balinciaga specifically is sponsoring some of that fly ship.
So yeah, I'm gonna say Balenciaga instead of just like
leaving it at you know, Gucci or Fantee or whatever
(27:14):
the fuck you're actually wearing or interested in.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Blah blah blah blah blah. No, that's a yeah, No,
that's fair. I think it's like, I just don't think
it's going anywhere. I think it's entails all his time.
It always will be so oftentimes and oftentimes, And to
be fair to this point is like, sometimes I'll see
some shit that's actually about another some other ship, and
I'll get like excited. But you've never seen that movie,
the Legend of Bagadvance.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I have never sat down, and I thought it was
just a coon movie.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And then it turns out it's it's the Bagaika, the
Hindu text. Oh far less.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So wait, this is a like a Hindu story that
they're adapting with.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
That's the story of the warrior king or whatever. Yeah,
somebody they taught me that in high school.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
But then they adapted into Matt Damon plays golf with
Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, that's why they have all these weird sounding names
like Ranulph Juna. That's an Indian.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Name though, whoa, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, that's just what my high school teacher told me.
It might be wrong. I remember, yeah, we we we
we we we we terrorized her. I remember this girl, Sasha.
She asked her she was a virgin. Is the funniest
thing I've ever seen in high school. She raised her
hand and she she was like Sasha, and she was like,
mister gear, you a virgin.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I've had a student do that to me. And and
I will say, I've never wanted to fight a person
more than.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's the funniest thing you could do to a teacher
as a child.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
He and he what made it so obnoxious was that
he was sort of like this very meek, very sort
of like not that that wild ass kid that you
would expect to be the one doing it. And so
it made it more like he sincerely didn't know. But
I feel like he was just fucking with me, you
(29:13):
know what I mean. Like it wasn't to steal on. Yeah,
he just was like, this will fix my my awkward
high school experience if I air out this motherfucker all
my peers.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, and it, to be honest, it might have worked.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
He got the wrong one. What was the reaction I
aired him? I heard, I shot back, baby, are you
a virgin? What we're doing what's up? I was like, nah,
are you you know what I mean? Like, I'm I
ain't not for a second am I sitting in that feeling?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, come on, big dog, I made it through high school.
You ain't about to get me. It might be your dad.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You're right, because because the fear that they're they're hoping
I'm gonna play in is be like, well, I can't
reply because this is sexualizing a teen or or putting
a you know, na, look he what's up?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Who you fucking? Who you fucking? Who you be with?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Because no, I'm not just gonna sit in that feeling
and if my job is on the line afterwards, so
goddamn be it.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And then all the students were like, hey, mister Kerman, yeah,
like you have like some cool Nah, I couldn't do it.
I just.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, in part because I was much younger than everybody
on the status. Yeah, And so in that way I
think they were they were worried that like if I
became too familiar, it would sort of it was already
a challenge, sort of like not you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm not saying you, but that's how people end up
fucking students.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I think, So you become too like too much of
a friend.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And then it's happened in my high school. I've seen it.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, I never wanted to be their friends.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh man, their teens. I didn't fuck the teacher. No
good for you. I mean I would have had the
opportunity arisen.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
To fuck one of your teachers.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, I would have, But I don't think it would
have gone because here's what happened. Is like a student
in my high school did it. And it was the
little brother of somebody that I was close to. It
was a boy girls, It wasn't a male teacher having
It was a female teacher having stess with a man,
the one that you always think is cool. But then
when it happened, when it happened the way it shook out,
(31:46):
I was like, oh this is yeah, she she's that
was that was That was abuse, and it ruined his life.
It really fucked up that little boy's life.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think it's ever
as cool as we am iagined it would be true.
I was wishing, Oh I would have happily done it
in in high school and and never looked back at
my therapist. Yeah, I would have looked back at my therapist.
(32:16):
As I'm leaving, I would say, am I gonna be okay?
And she'd have been like, I don't know, it's gonna
be a rough road. See you next week, big man.
She called me big man because there's the closeness.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Now. Yeah, no, I understand. Listen, we're all in too
deep anyways. Secret messages and music. I believe it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, I think that. I think that's one hundred percent possible.
I think there is. In fact, it's more than likely
that there are secret messages, some more harmful than others.
And the best thing we can do is, uh is,
just listen to the messages from people we like.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You know, m.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, hug your loved ones while while future sings to
you about why Gucci is the best of all the brands.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
If she catching cheating, catch me cheating, I will never
tell her. Sorry. Yeah, I was that not militarizing the population. Bro,
he is an animal.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
If that's not the secret message that makes you a
fucking the type of person that slips a puppy's throat.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I don't know that. Man. God damn, he raps like
he doesn't have a mom.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, it's like, bro, you have in your family you
have so many kids, there has to be a daughter
in there someway.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, it's really wild.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
And not that it should require a daughter for you
to be even remotely humane. But but at the same time,
god damn.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah. Yeah. His music makes me feel like a prude sometimes,
you know, like sometimes you listen to Super Gangster Rapp
and you're like, oh, I'm not I'm not like Benny
the Butcher. Yeah, that's not feel the future. My heart
longs for love. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No, I know everybody is always judgmental of things, but
I've never related to jay Z more than four four
four where I was like, Oh, this is just a
man who goes to work and trying to do better.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I get that, man. That's that's that's the longevity. I'm
looking for it.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
When he was talking about cocaine, I didn't get that
motherfucker at all.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I told my friends I did.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, No, I pretended to, and.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I tried tried as hard as I could.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But and I enjoyed trying. I can't think of an
artist I enjoyed trying with more. But but did I
get it?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I didn't get it. But when he when he got
to being like, hey, man, I just wanna. I just
want to learn to stretch in the morning and and
check check stocks. It was like, yeah, jay Z, I
get it. I like this relatable.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I also eat grapefruit with a spoon the little no
I eat it. I eat the wedges because I'm still
I'm still out here. I feel it like an orange uncle. Fuck.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I love that for you. Well, Jerry with the Jay,
I believe this should have answered your question. There definitely
are conspiracy theories. Next time you come to us, you
come with something better than the very coked out band
cameo talking about candy as a reference to cocaine.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
People call it nose candy. They just cut off one word.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Jesus Christ, Jerry, you've made a fool of yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Again yet again. This is quite.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Possibly your second time around the Bend, and this is
what the fuck you came back with. Jerry, you make
us sick. Fucking Well, that's about it, by bitch.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
While the fucking minnie ye a Sew mini episode, will
the fucking mini ever Sew Well, the fucking mini ever
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