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May 29, 2025 19 mins

Langston and David sit down with their good friend Zack Fox in this mini episode and imagine what it would be like to write the best white show ever together — like a reverse The Wire.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Motherfucking Mini Yai Sol Mini episode motherfucking Mini Yea Sol.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome Little Mama's in Gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode
of My Mama Told.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the
pockets of black conspiracy theories. Our guest today, you know
him from Goddamn Everything. Give it up for Zach Fox,
Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I just think it's always funnier when black people get
to be seated in powered You know, it's gonna be
funnier things that happen. You're gonna get Obama dipping his
pinky in the flint.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
Water and being like.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
That was the.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Head. You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm he's a little miss show as complaining about the water.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
It tastes good. What I'm talking about does not rust
that season.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
This season, John water this is old bab Man, This
is collar green water Man.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
When do you think the last time Obama had tap
water was?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
For real?

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Whoa damn? That's a great question, like genuine like cup full.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Cup full and not on some like three in the morning,
I'm going back to bed.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Let me just you know, when.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Did he become like politically sort of on the map
on the map in Chicago.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
I think it's early two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yes, that he starts to he's like a state senator
or he's like an organizer, I think at first, and
then the state senator.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I'm gonna say this, I don't think Obama is having
a full cup of tap water after college dropout came out.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Wow, I think that's fair. I think that because I
remember my mom's friend. She told me about him, and
she was like, he's going to be the first black president.
And I was in, like, I must have been in
like seventh grade when she said that, mm hmm. Like
so it was probably like right around two thousand and
ninety nine. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
He was making an imprint before he became any version
of like a national conversation man.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what, though, I say he kept drinking tap water,
we don't get all those trunk strikes.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
WHOA You think tap water would have kept him reasonable?

Speaker 5 (02:32):
I think it keep it does keep you humble. Yeah,
I think it always like floride keeps you.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Nice and sedate, just like mitigate some of those baser instincts.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, of humanity, yeah, florid.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
And that's why they put it in there, because y'all
start getting up at y y'all acting up.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
You need to get some floride in fine.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
God, absolute power corrupts absolutely unless unless ex floridated.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Man, Damn, I don't even want to talk about the theory.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
We man, we we got too many talk like that.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
That's gonna get us.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Terrence Howard, Man, he's right around the corner for y'all.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Man came how We were talking in the car after
he called it.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh, he called it. We talked to him on the phone.
I think I saw this. Yeah, we facetimes with him
via Brandon T. Jackson, and he was super nice. Yeah,
it was nice. It wasn't not nice. It wasn't not nice.
It was not not nice. But it could have gone
wrong at any moment. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Could have been y'all's ray J in the breakfast club. Absolutely,

(03:47):
I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Get my other ghost at one point.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
That's all comedy.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Yeah, that was incredible. Ray J is incredible.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
That was really incredible, Right he said, is that your car? Yeah,
that's my car. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Terrence Howard was y'all's ray J in the breakfast club.
Who do you think that he's threatening to come fuck y'all.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Oh, here's what I think is he sees us and
he goes, I'm gonna make y'all niggas fuck each other.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Okay, okay, I think he's like, y'all have the science.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Y'all.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
Both are are our weak little booty boys.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Change one electron make y'all niggas gay. Switch y'all atoms
up the gay adims.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
That's a new Man fruitcake. That's one O five. Now
watch me play the gets out.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Slick back my head. You science to make your niggas gay. Nigga,
my name is Terrence Deshaun. You better, you better remember
who you're talking to.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well, I got a gay equation in my phone right now.
Don't make it. Don't make hold on, let me carry
the fruit one plus. Ain't carry the fruit boy.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
What I ain't even gotta be the hack y'all WiFi
routing a gay signals to make your niggas me.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
It's towers in the town. Can't make me fun.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
I got twenty eight patents on your gay ass.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
And you heard a Bluetooth nigga. This rainbow too, nigga,
make you gay with a J B L speaker.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
One time, He's gonna hear that that would be worth it.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
He's going to take our man cards.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
That was the main threat, was that he's working on
these things called man cards, not physical cards, but.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Just because we thought it was like rush cards, because
we said we were no, this is okay. What does
he mean though? I mean, like somebody you on the butt,
really don't be gay.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Don't let Hollywood make you present as gay. He would
never kiss a man. He would never let anybody pretend
to kiss him any of that ship. He said that,
and then I looked at David very concerned if it
was going to come up that I've done that multiple times.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
I've kissed man.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I've agreed to all sorts of simulated whatnot me where
it's at.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't think he I don't think he watched Insecure. No,
I don't think I don't think he's watched the sitcom.
I think I think he doesn't do research.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I mean that Google. I think it's probably just in
this house.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, dang, so man card that was what he
was putting.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, he said like big on the man card. It's
like the man like you can't.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Yeah, it was a it was a wild day, was terring.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
We thought it was gonna break the internet.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
A q R code like man man man card thing
or is it's more in the spiritual spiritual symbolic and
you're not.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
I'm saying he should start Man Cards University, like the
Tates did it. Yeah right. I don't have much else
to say about that.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I was just first and I was like, no, we
need a black taits and then I was like nod.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, And also they are they have black I say
that kind of they don't want to be but yeah,
like British. Yeah, they got some weird, fucked up ship
going on them. Two boys ain't right really, the Entrew
Tate and oh yeah yeah yeah brother. Yeah, what's his name?
Tristan Tristan.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
I didn't even know he had a brother.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Looks just like him, but balding and not ready to
deal with it. Like Andrew Tate just cut his ship.
Tristan Tate has the exact same situation. But don't they
got the straight up just sex criminal rapists.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Yeah yeah, like like Romanian.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
And like and like went over there so that they
could do it the way they've always wanted to do it,
ancient way.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, they're doing the episode one of the Wire season.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, oh world oh world ship.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
They really made you think that season was going to
keep going off and then it just kind of didn't.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Oh y'all don't like season two? No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Really like it at all. I like, I like which
one is where the towers fell?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Three? Three?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, I think, and Brother Mazona is in three yeah, three,
the best four?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Next then one.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Wow, I think I'm a four guy.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah that's the schools and then yeah, and then with
the end with Randy and it's like, you know, help me,
that was good.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Two though I couldn't get behind it.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Two two took a minute. But once they finally stopped
building the white story and it just started to play, I.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Fucked with it.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
I think that was just a case of like the
writers got to like comfortable. Maybe I don't know, but
like if you look at who wrote that, like it's
a bunch of Peter Griffins.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
So I feel like, you know what I mean, like
a bunch of Peter Griffins.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
You're right, one season of like a good nigga show,
Like let's talk about oh yeah, talk about.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
These Ukrainian sex slaves.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know, I wonder if a part of them was like,
I can't believe we made it through that ship. Yeah,
let's just go back to where we belong, right, right,
we were being crazy, right. The fact that they're saying
this is good is nuts. Let's just we gotta go
back home because we were acting up. No, It's truly like,
if all of us three made like the best white show,

(10:30):
we all made Yellowstone, Uh huh that would be and
season one cracks off. If season two were like what
if it was just snowing the bluff, we would just
like give a nigga a camera and like watch him
so crack all day, like completely depart from what was
going on with that white man. But then at some

(10:52):
point a white man walks into.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
The hood and he's like, we're going to clean this up.
Yeah yeah, Like I will say that don't that doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I will say with my.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think I could make the greatest white television show
of all time. I've been saying it would satire you,
it would be satire for me because Yellowstone is like,
think about it, if somebody else made Yellowstone, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Do you think And then I like what you're saying,
but do you think you have the ability to remain
straight faced in the character the entire time of writing it.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Not just writing it, but the selling of it.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's difficulty because I think I would have to write
it in a vacuum. I think I would literally have
to like rent a cabin and just write the whole
shit in like six weeks, right, And I think with that,
I think the selling of it would be difficult.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Because that's what made David Simon frankly a psychopath, is
that not only did he write this show where he's like,
I am going to tell the story of these black
people in Baltimore, but I am going to sell it.
I Am going to look people in the face and
say I am the source for the truth that comes

(12:07):
out of this special.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
That's where you.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Got to be a fucking nutcase to be like, Nope,
nobody else should be writing this. Sure, there's not a
single human being on earth despite how I look, despite
my background, despite my lack of relationship with the communities,
I'm about to.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
But in that dynamic, I think it's the flip case
for us, you know what I'm saying, Like Peter Griffin
going to Baltimore to sell them on the idea of
him making the show about the effects of four hundred
years of slavery is definitely going to be like a
like a Sissifist level task where we would be just

(12:46):
pushing the rock the other direction down the mountain, making
things infinitely easier for ourselves, just going in the FX
as saying we're gonna talk about y'all.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
And here's what I'm saying. We don't even know.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
We don't even we say I got it. The office too, Yeah,
what's up that gonna bust through? They move to the office. Yeah,
d White got a kid now he works there. Yeah,
give me a million dollars.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
And they're looking at us like, so you want like
you want Maherschela to lead, and.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
We're like, nope, nope, give me the Chalame boy.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yep, how I got you pronounced his name, no interaction
with his work and all.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I genuinely think that picture meeting, like everybody would go
their separate ways and they would be in the room
like this and be like, finally they got it.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah, man, we've been waiting on We've been waiting on it.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
You know, they're sick of year and this stuff they about.
They don't want our story. You don't want to want
our flavor on their story. They want to feel like
us but still be there and we could talk dog
ship about it.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
You could go crazy.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
You know what bugs me about this is it we're
went it on camera.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
We should turn this off. Yeah, turn it off.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Turn this off.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Before Kenya sus.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Of my appointment in his own come whites the whole
time it was Whitish.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
No, it's all of us.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
In our huber racing his ex.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Wait a minute, Rashida Jones complain, just like, what was
I thinking?

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Blackish?

Speaker 5 (14:48):
No white ish man? Damn.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
This only bolster the fact that I think, I think
that's really there's money to be made.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
I do. I think I agree with with you.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
My only fear and this is really more a fear
for myself than maybe I can even apply to you
two is my My only fear is that I wouldn't
be able to do it.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Like I stomach for it. I at some point it's
not stomach.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
I just would tell them what I'm doing at some point.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (15:21):
At some point I'd be like, y'all know I'm making
fun of you, but no.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Man, and you drop your heart of darkness. Like documentary afterwards.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
But this is my thing. This is my thing.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
You're projecting a little bit. This is my opinion. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I think you might be projecting onto white people our
own level of concern about being made fun of in media.
You don't think they because there's no white allegiance. There's
no it's not even a unit. It's not a unit

(15:55):
like that it is. It's a gas. It's not a solid,
it's a gas. There's no white combs. Yeah, there are
to us. We can point them out where we go.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
You are a uh, a defector to your community. But
they don't feel that way about all.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
They don't care. There's no they are alone out here. Wow,
you're making point.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I'm almost giving myself too much power in this situation
to think that if I went on some if I
went at comic Con and was like, y'all know, I'm
making fun of you, that they would somehow see themselves
in the u I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
And they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Even if they do look at the ship they like,
like the edgy edgy ship.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
They just want to say ship. Bro, they don't there's
no anything.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, it really does in a terrible way. It almost
makes their racism seem human in a way that.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
I Right now, I feel like we've come around, you
know what, It's time for us to take it.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Like those people.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
God damn, Zach.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Tell the people where they can find you.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
What cool shit you got going on? My name is
Zack Fox.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
You can follow me on I G Zack Fox Twitter
or x Zack Fox YouTube channel at watch me from
Zack Fox. Okay, okay, I'm on tour right now. I'm
gonna be doing Portola Festival in San Francisco. I'm gonna
be doing a movement festival in Detroit. I'm gonna be

(17:40):
doing uh not announce yet, but another crazy festival in
Florida coming up. And I got tours and stuff and
I'm gonna be hitting the road a little bit. So
on my website Zack Fox dot com, it's an exol
spreadsheet with all of my dates on it.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Me and my manager worked very hard on that Google sheet.
So buy the ticket and hey change some dates if
you want to.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, it's open access.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
It's free for anybody. I hit the If you have
the link, you can edit. So bory what you got.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
June fourteenth, I'm going to be in Sacramento at the
Secret Show June thirteenth. I'm going to be in Hayward
June twelfth. I'm gonna be in Petaluma. In June fifteenth,
I'm going to be at Littlefield in Brooklyn. We should
sell it out because I need the validation. I just

(18:36):
want to feel good about the stand up that I'm doing,
and I think it's very great.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Struck my Man's ego. Come on out and as always,
you can follow me at Langston Kerrman. I ain't got
no dates coming up and may never will again. That said,
you can follow me on all social media platforms. If
you want to send us your own drops, your own
conspiracy theories, send it all to my Mama pod at
gmail dot com.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
We would love to hear from you. All Right, we
did it by bitch.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
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