December 26, 2024 • 38 mins
Langston and David answer a listener's voicemail about mixed kids trying too hard and how to figure out how to strike the balance of both identities.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Motherfucking mini yoursel mini episode, motherfucking mini your self.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
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be right for someone. A man is born, he's a
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but their dreams. There it is, there, it is. Ladies
and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama
(00:37):
Told Me.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of
black conspiracy theories and.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We finally work to prove the theories that you, the
listeners have at home. It's a motherfucking mini episode. Let's go,
let's goddamn go and lack Christmas. Merry Christmas. That's right,
but there's a more important one. Happy qual Happy, praise
be to Kwanza and all that that does.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I don't know, because we could just say, you're right.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I don't know how you greet people during Kwanza.
Kwanza to you and yours, Yeah, to you.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
And everything one you love. I hope you had a
good one. Yeah, we hope. It's it just started. It's
the festival of them other lights, and we're excited that
you get to celebrate it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So so do what my daughter hasked to celebrate Kwansa
this year.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, that's what you were saying, that's crazy, Do you
say no? Of course not.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, I didn't. I was like, oh, yeah, we can
do Kwanza. And then I've done nothing to research it
or you know what I mean. Like I just told
her we're gonna be at Nikki's mom's house. So I
just told my mother in law, Hey, she want to
do Quasa this year. So if you want to get
I guess some Quasa stuff we could.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
We could tell you past the book Fatherhood. That sounds
that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, I'm not you want me to learn Kwanza?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So how old is she? She's three?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
She's not gonna remember.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
She doesn't even know she said it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, she don't, And she doesn't know what day of
the week it is. She doesn't know that that years past.
She doesn't understand the passage of time. So Kwanza will
come and go and she'll be none the wiser. They
block that down.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
M hm, the passage of time? How long til kids
get that? I just realized I don't understand how the
development of that works, and people.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I don't know but every day she wakes up and
she goes, is it free fun Fridays? And I go
it is not? And she goes why not? And I
go because today is Wednesday? And she goes, okay, and
then we move on with our.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's kind of how I feel about, like getting rich
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, you don't know what's coming next. It's just well,
it's gotta come sometimes. That's gonna be free from Fridays.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I know that for sure. What are we here doing?
I got I got sidetracked.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We we have a we have a voicemail from a person.
They sent us a voicemail, and and we're gonna listen
to it and talk some ship about it. I guess
that's that's the whole deal. Let's do it all right, Olivia,
play that ship?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Uh number Why I am not saying.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Fair enough can hold of me?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That makes kids.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Try way too hard at life. And I'm just talking
like black and white. The only one I was around,
Uh either trying so hard to let everybody know how
black they are thinks a margin or they tough doing
(04:29):
all the just extra ship, or they want to make
sure that you know they Mama's white, even if they
you know, pretty darn elevating. They just got to let
you know about the white mama. They white family. That's
all the pictures they post on dista ground, and no
(04:49):
one is supposed to know. Your daddy is black and.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
David there it is black?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Is David? Good?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Way to hang up the phone, I'd say, all right,
blackest David.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
First of all, you don't have to say something nasty
to us. It's just if you want to. It's not
like a requirement. I'll be honest. I forgot that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We asked for that, and we've gotten a few voicemails
now where people have been like, I'm not gonna say
anything nasty to you. It's like, hey, man, I feel
like you're bringing up some old ship that I'm really
not even. I'm not expecting that of you at all.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I promise that was weeks ago. I was part of you.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I was just trying to impress Iana, dookie, I don't
know what.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm not trying to fuck you.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You really got on the phone. He was like, first
of all, fellas, I'm off limits. I'm saving myself. But
two different niggas. Yeah, anyway, only my conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, niggas shying. Fuck, yeah, that's so funny. Uh, this
is funny because I was we had talked about it
a little bit before. I think this is true if
anybody who feels like an outsider, I don't think it's
like just mixed people. But yeah, I do think mixed
people kind of go hard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I didn't hear any of this and and feel like
refuting it, you know what I mean, Like, I felt
like that's probably true. You go real hard for one
side of your your ship.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Become like I gotta I'm black, I'm black, or you
become I am white. I don't want nothing to do
with whatever it's over there, ass person.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I think my question with I this is about the
difficulty of striking the balance, because it does seem like
even if even if you know mixed people who don't
go too hard on either side they do, it always
seems to be like on one side was adopted more
(07:21):
than the other. Like do you feel like you've ever
seen someone who kind of just walks straight in the middle.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, I don't think you do walk straight in the middle.
I think you pick a side, and the best of
us have learned to love the other side in the
in a way that is as meaningful. It can be
as meaningful as the side you chose. That's interesting, Like
I think objectively, I picked being black. There was no
(07:54):
part of me that was like I'm going white, I'm
gonna try that shit out. Like black was in and
culture and identity and the way that I wanted to
build community, it all was connected back to blackness. But
I don't hate white people because of my connection to them.
I hate white people because of my proud black experience.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Like it it I my my love for the white
people in my life is still meaningful and substantial and
not something that I'm like embarrassed about. And I think
there are some people who are able to get to
that spot. Would you say not at all?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, look I'm a dog. Yeah, No it is. It is. Uh,
it is very interesting because it's like, uh, do you
feel had you chosen the other side? Because it does
seem I think we had talked about this recently, you
(09:00):
and I had talked about it. It does seem that
if you choose that side to be black and to
choose to try to ingrace, you to be into whiteness
with no blackness. It does seem like that is sort
of a dangerous decision. Does that make sense to.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Go full to go white without any safety net?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because I don't think they're gonna let
you in.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And I think I think the unfortunate reality is the
type of people who make that choice either don't know
or don't care that what they're doing is dangerous, right,
do you know what I mean? Like, I think they're real.
Like I've I've seen the history books. I've read the
articles of black people going missing at weird parties because
(09:52):
they you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Know, there was like that. No, I don't know about
it just made me feel cold.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Dog, there's your story. Yeah, there's a story these ladies.
And it came out a few years ago. These this
group of like moms, right that all like get together
and they drink wine and they're like sort of a proud,
little fun mom group. And it's like seven white ladies
and one black lady. And the black lady came over
(10:17):
for like one of their like sleepover parties whatever and
then ended up dead, like fully was dead at the party,
and no explanation as to why her family never really
gets to figure it out. It's just like she did.
And they're saying she she like drank too much and fell.
(10:40):
It's like, now, uh, I mean it's it's I know,
I'm I'm butchering elements of this story, but I think
the core of it is exactly that, and it's a
very real story that has a documentary. I'm pretty fairly
certain I either watched a documentary YouTube documentary or like
(11:02):
a Netflix documentary about it. But either way, yeah, real
fucked up shit. And I think are a lot of
guys that aren't aware that that exists. But I think
most of them are like, nah, but they won't do
that to me. That's that thought. You should never feel
that way about anything.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
No, I mean maybe family, but like even then, you
should never feel that way about any situation.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, man, No, if they do that, they do that.
That's just how they are.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And that yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's worth unpacking, is why is my loved one like that?
And how can I help? But but no, you can't.
You can't assume you're exempt from the ship.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, do you think that That's what happens with that
a lot of times, is that people feel that way,
that they feel somehow exempt or like special.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think most of us think that we're exceptional.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah that's fair. I think you sort of have to. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Exceptional doesn't mean like good at something. It just means
the exception to something, so it you know what I mean. Like,
sometimes it's not that you think you are the best
at a thing. You know so many niggas that fucking
none of us would play basketball if it were about Uh,
(12:34):
it's being truly like the best of the best at
the thing, because only like three hundred guys can be that.
But we all play and think like, well, I'm better
than most of the people I know, and like I'm
still a winner. I'm still going to prevail in my
efforts because of who I am and what I represent.
(12:55):
It's like, well, that's not true at all.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, that's true. You have to think like that. I'm
not even mad at people thinking like that. Actually not.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
If you sit down and you play video games, you
fucking think you're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Did you stand up comedy at nighttime or whatever?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
There wasn't like a world of people in my life
being like you gotta do stand.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Up same, same, same. There was one person who turned
out to be very right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
But you know, let me be clear, Nobody was nudging
me into this, not a single person in my life.
It was like, you gotta get on stage, my man.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's so funny because you were already in the stage space.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, And they weren't like, hey, bro, I see a
clear pivot into comedy for you. That it was truly
my choosing that got Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That's beautiful in the way that you owned it, you
know what I mean? That decision is yours.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I own this shit.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
There was no body that wanted me to do this, truly,
there was. There were two people that were at my
first open mic, two friends of mine that came to
my first open mic because they found out I was
doing and that they wanted to tag along. And they
the entire time were like teasing and talking shit, being
like are you sure? Is this really something you want
(14:22):
to be doing? And you know, I don't think they
We're wrong, And truly, I just I just believed I
could be great at this thing that it made zero
sense for me.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Man, I feel so much better about her, but it
was so much easier for me. Then my sister was
there and she didn't know shit, she barely speaks English,
and she was like, you're going to be famous. I
was like, God, damn wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh that's nice my first one.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, she didn't come down. I don't think she's been
any subsequent shows. She shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No, she was there when I needed it. She said,
she sent you on your path, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
What I mean. And then yeah, homework down.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
He don't get them. Dogs don't get to go home
with everybody that's nice to them the way back to
where they belonged with Charlie I believe his name was
something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But all that, all that boy down to back to
this voicemail. I feel like we're just kind of saying, yeah,
of course, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think I think light skin yeah specifically makes people.
Uh and you know why. And that's the part that
I don't always like, is that like, And I'm going
to get a little big of it now. Since we're
being so mean to my people, I think a lot of.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Working that we were very open to. You've been nothing
this whole time, been nothing but helpful. This entire conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I've been pushing down a lot of age about this conversation.
You you're a nasty person with a nasty personality.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I think.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It is that's exactly what I was gonna talk about,
is there's this ongoing thing of dark skinned people being
like I don't know why they would behave that way,
and the whole time you're just being like you weak
little bitch yourself. It's poudy faced little boo boo head.
And it's like, well, yeah, if you're gonna emasculate me
(16:28):
off of like the color of my skin, and if
I get upset about it, I'm a coon, then yeah,
I'm gonna have to go real hard for this shit
or I'm gonna have to fully reject y'all. But there
ain't no middle ground to play inside of it interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I mean, do you think that becomes that's interesting because
I think that that comes from a lot of times,
like an older time where it was like the proximity
of whiteness was such a benefit, you know what I mean.
But now if you don't get that and then you
just get black, dark skinned people making fun of you,
that is that is it? That is not the greatest place,
(17:06):
Like you not even get the benefits that they're sneaking.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Is where is that where the rage? Because that is
if I am to open my mind is and be
the person I would like to be I think about that.
That does sound enraging.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Think about Jesse Williams, right, Jesse Williams, for like two years,
was elevated to this almost like sage level of blackness, right,
where like he had invested in his community, he had
spoken back the words that we needed most when we
(17:47):
needed them, he didn't even That's how he was sort
of like a fucking abolitionist almost at a certain point
inside of you know, popular culture, he was this iconic figure.
And then the nigga had a misstep, cheated on a
black lady, you know what I mean, Like did some
(18:08):
funny shit missteped, and immediately all people called him was
sort of a light skinned sort of fraud.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
They immediately turned on him, took everything valuable he take
he had said away from him and now like sort
of like shrank his his value to the point that
he doesn't even feel confident to speak on issues in
this public manner anymore. And so yeah, that nigga's angry,
(18:38):
do you know what I mean? And like is he
feels fucking defrauded by this thing that he invested in
and can't uninvest because of how vocal he was inside
of it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So yes, rage, But now do you feel like because
on the other hand, were the ones as far as
darker people who were kind of seen more as aggressive
in what and whatnot? Without having that is that better?
Would you rather have that stigma on you? Because I
(19:09):
will say, especially as a child, it's like very apparent you. Yeah,
you are placed in that box immediately. I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And that's where I also think this conversation gets dangerous.
Is I don't mean to suggest for a second that
light skin people are the ultimate victims here. I think
that that certainly there is a level of like for real,
for real bigotry that that sort of cycles its way
between members of the diaspora, right that like we are,
(19:41):
we are mean and violent to each other in a
multitude of ways. That said, the ultimate positioning of darker
skinned people in the world in social experiment and experiences
rather is as low as you get and there's no
debating it. And anybody suggests otherwise is a bad actor,
(20:04):
it's or not lying, is.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Just not clearly aware of what's going on.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, I think they're lying. I don't think anybody's like
fucking confused about you know what I mean? Like Lenny
Kravitz ain't being like Damn, me and my mama had
the same kindahol, Like nobody's that ain't how it works,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, I also wonder because if we're speaking in real,
real generalities, have you met a lot of people who
you feel like and I think right now I'm thinking
(20:50):
of men specifically. Have you met a lot of people
who have subverted it? Have you met a lot of
like kind of spoken, light nice, light skinned guys who
don't have those tendencies and they feel like or do
you think that the system causes the rage, but the
rage is real?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I feel like I meet people all the time that
probably fall somewhere outside of that spectrum, right of like
being a rageful person, much in the way that I
think all stereotypes are our levels of truth and falsehood,
right that, like, not all of us are any of
(21:29):
the things that we're supposed to be. I do think
it is impossible to be a mixed person connecting to
blackness and not at least be aware of that suggestion
at all times, Right that, Like one way or the other,
you think about it when you get angry or you know,
(21:51):
when you're having an interaction that might challenge you to
question if you're angry about something, you think like, damn,
am I am I falling into some version of a stereotype,
But Nah, I don't. I don't feel stressed about the ship,
and I don't think most I don't think most the
people that I interact with as like mixed people are either.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That is always to me. That's where sort of the
needling and whatnot it always come from. Is that. It's like,
I don't even think y'all think you know what I mean?
That was sort of that's sort of to me, that's
where where it comes from. Where it's like, I don't
think you feel like you know what I mean? Yeah,
I think you I And it's like, obviously you cannot.
(22:35):
It is not a good game to start comparing suffering
or whatever, But you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And I think part of the reason that that it
probably means more to us than it means to y'all.
The reason it's a throwaway joke for y'all and it's
our fucking identity is because of how bad we want
to be a part of the community we picked, do
you know what I mean? Like, at its core, I
think like a mixed person when they make that choice,
(23:04):
really fucking wants inclusion, and it's an inclusion that frankly
probably isn't possible and shouldn't be possible. But but I
don't know. We live in this weird, shitty binary country,
so we gotta make choices.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, do you feel like because I also wonder with that,
is it like that for Europeans, like our dudes in London,
like making fun of light skin guys, like I know,
you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But I think that's because they are constantly copying off
of us.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
That's what I'm Okay, that's fair, That's that's what I mean. Though.
So like, let's take maybe trying to think where the
dyaspa exists that maybe like Asia, because I assume there's
black people there. Do you think it's like it all
seems to be the cues seem to all be taken
from American.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think about South Africa a lot, right, and how
South Africa separates black from like the colored people, right that,
Like there's literally a tier in between where they go, nah,
he's colored, he's black. Sometimes their colors are very similar,
but one of them is colored and one of them
(24:13):
is black. And part of it is because of you know,
the racial mixing, the sort of like cast system almost
that was created. And I think certainly that casting is
shitty in its results, but it probably is more honest
to who is connecting on a socio emotional level. Do
(24:36):
you know what I mean that, Like, a person of
my skin color is probably more correct for me to
be aligning with than someone of your skin color. Like
the fact that we both call each other the same
thing is nuts.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
It is difficult because it's like, like you said, there's
a culture that was chosen, and that is it's like
an agreed to It's like in a greed participation. This
culture so in that you can kind of say that
we are the same.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I think culturally that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Becomes a difficulty, right, is like when we nitp.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think I think culturally one hundred percent. But I
think part of the reason that racial designations were created
was meant to be more specific than culture. It was
literally like you are this color, and you are this color,
and these people are different than these people. And I
(25:32):
think the fact that white people tricked us forced our
hand in some ways into mixing all of blackness into
a single identity is in my opinion, as much a
trick as it is a violence.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Like that is how.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You you create a system where people continue to never
like fully be able to empower themselves is because we
are trapped, uh sort of always connecting back to representation
that isn't truly our experience.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that. Yeah, because all
these things are like, yeah, I don't know, I'm thinking
multiple things. He once, because I think about when I
think about colorism, I think about like my experiences in
Africa specifically, and how there's no white people over there.
But it's like all the same kind of things ring true,
(26:29):
you know what I mean, And like the way it's
perceived because I'm dark even for Africa, which is crazy real,
I'm dark for my family.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's really funny to think that there's like an award
out there for darkest man and you'd be a real
competitor for it.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm for it, for it, and it is like it
is like it is like I think I don't think
that I don't think that I ever ran from it,
but I do think that societally, what was placed on
me because of it would cause me to make light
skin junkson. I made fun of light skin people in
my whole life, always, always, and.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm saying, I'm saying, I've never experienced anything like what
you've experienced. And there's no level of connecting.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
To to cool mody.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Who's y'all king cool mody, that's gonna make me a line,
you know what I mean? Or are fully empathized with
your experience. And so I think in that way, And
I don't think it's a separating because I go like,
oh I'm better or you're worse or any of that.
(27:56):
I just think it's the violence that white people created
was making us go, we're the same.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That's fair, We're built different.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, Africa is more tribal than it is even like countries.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, that just came up. I was just talking. I
was just thinking about that because I was talking to
my mom and my cousin is married to a Timney woman,
which is a different tribe, and it's like, we'll talk
worse about them than what do you talk about white people?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You know, the countries are white people drawings, you know
what I mean? If it were truly like on some
African ship, that map would be so little it'd be
like everybody on this block. Yeah, yeah, it would be crazy.
(28:48):
So you know, we create these larger margins with which
to identify people, and or or rather white people created
these larger margins in order to control and identify people.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Well, I'm glad that you're angry, Langston, thanks man, No problem, man.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
All I do is come on here and connect more
with my friends and my Lord. Yeah, this is a
prayer first podcast. We've always been that way. Come on,
look at God and and then I get accused of
being an angry, light skinned carc cuture.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Also, we're all angry, We're all very everybody's pretty angry
about how shit's going.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Man, nobody's pumped about the way things are heading.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Shout out to do you, to the to the buff
King himself, Luigi Mangione.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
We we were thinking about you every day.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Luigi never a faker sounding Italian name. That's like, just
like if you ask me, like to just make up
an Italian person's name, Yeah, that's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It sounds like after you say you got to put
a little bit of tomato sauce around.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
The only name better I could think of is spaghetti Alfredo. Yeah,
I asked this on time. There's got to be somebody
in Italy whose last name is Spaghetti, right, like, there's
got to be eight one family.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I guess there's a We got people with the last
name Hamburger.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, so you know there's there's a Fred Freddie Spaghetti
out there.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I guess what I would challenge you is, nobody's last
name is hot dog. And some names feel like they're
they're not families that are like just made up completely.
Maybe Spaghetti is that.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I don't know. I don't know enough about their culture
and I don't care to.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But fair enough, but there are people with the last
name Alfredo.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
See, and that was made up here?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Really? I think alfreda we made that up, right, I
don't know if that's true. Hold on America made up
Fetichini Alfred Alfredo.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, might have been black people. We
perfected it. We love it the most.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I was saying, I'm willing to stand on that, and
I don't care now that I know it's not even Italian.
I don't give a fuck who this offends. Black people
love Alfredo Sauce more than any people on this planet.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Think about the high how many black restaurants has it?
Is it like Fini or some kind of seafood pasta, Yeah,
you know what I mean? And then banana pudding because
you feel like they're not working as hard on the desserts.
Come on like it's like I spent so much money
for Alfredo with lobster bits in it.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, it's it's Alfredo plus meat and that is our ship.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah it is good. I'm not even mad at it.
I do love Alfredo.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I like it. It's not my favorite, but I like it,
and I like what we do to it. I think
black people really put a spin on it that makes
it a little more appetizing than when I go to
any other white owned establishment. And when I say white,
I include Italians because again, we are not playing that
game with y'all.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
All right, Oh yeah, shout out Alfredo. We love it.
We could have invented it. I think we just love
a cream sauce.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Man. We really got to get over the homophobia. I know,
it's so deep in our roots.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
That know. If that fucked me up. I did not
like saying it, and I don't love to admit that,
but that's I was like, God, what are you saying
on this no.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But I don't even mean just your your your response
to it. I mean more specifically, we we love Alfredo
sauce so much and and it's it's a part of us,
and we can't even celebrate it because we're so worried
we're gonna be gay when.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
We do it. And by the way, I know a
bunch of gay people. They're not just slurping up Alfredo
sauce so bait. That's the funniest part about this whole shit.
I lived with the gay guy. He wasn't just eating
hotdogs in the kitchen with his booty out, you know
what I'm saying. It wasn't even it's only straight guys
who were worried about that because he already is gay.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's see, that's where I'm gonna disagree with you. I
actually think, I actually think gay men are doing exactly
that all the time. I think it's nothing but popsicles
in the refrigerator and banana's on the counter.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I think, oh, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I think they open up their closet and it's tank
tops and strobe lights. That's what I believe about the game.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well, yeah, I think we got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I hope this answers your question. We never got
your name and we never will. No, but thank you
for the start sending voicemails. I like voicemails better. Voicemails
are nice. It's nice to hear your voices. It's nice
to hear the condescension, condescension out loud. Yeah, we sometimes
misread how you're being condescending to us and it turns
(34:31):
out no, you had a specific plan. And typing is
hard because.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
You know what we don't get in the voicemails. You
guys are such geniuses. I think you're brilliant. That's only
for the email nerds. Guys.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I know you say you're rascaling around, but I think
you got to get into politics.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, oh man, all right, we did.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You want to tell the people where they can find you?
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Speaker 3 (36:21):
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Speaker 2 (36:22):
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Speaker 2 (36:30):
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Year's Eve. Sure you should find people to be close to,
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Come on, am I gonna try to get my kids
to bed early so I could have a drink with
my wife and maybe we have sex on the couch.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
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let's goddamn go and lack Christmas. Merry Christmas. That's right,
but there's a more important one. Happy qual Happy, praise
be to Kwanza and all that that does.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I don't know, because we could just say, you're right.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I don't know how you greet people during Kwanza.
Kwanza to you and yours, Yeah, to you.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
And everything one you love. I hope you had a
good one. Yeah, we hope. It's it just started. It's
the festival of them other lights, and we're excited that
you get to celebrate it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So so do what my daughter hasked to celebrate Kwansa
this year.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, that's what you were saying, that's crazy, Do you
say no? Of course not.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, I didn't. I was like, oh, yeah, we can
do Kwanza. And then I've done nothing to research it
or you know what I mean. Like I just told
her we're gonna be at Nikki's mom's house. So I
just told my mother in law, Hey, she want to
do Quasa this year. So if you want to get
I guess some Quasa stuff we could.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
We could tell you past the book Fatherhood. That sounds
that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, I'm not you want me to learn Kwanza?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So how old is she? She's three?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
She's not gonna remember.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
She doesn't even know she said it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, she don't, And she doesn't know what day of
the week it is. She doesn't know that that years past.
She doesn't understand the passage of time. So Kwanza will
come and go and she'll be none the wiser. They
block that down.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
M hm, the passage of time? How long til kids
get that? I just realized I don't understand how the
development of that works, and people.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I don't know but every day she wakes up and
she goes, is it free fun Fridays? And I go
it is not? And she goes why not? And I
go because today is Wednesday? And she goes, okay, and
then we move on with our.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's kind of how I feel about, like getting rich
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, you don't know what's coming next. It's just well,
it's gotta come sometimes. That's gonna be free from Fridays.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I know that for sure. What are we here doing?
I got I got sidetracked.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We we have a we have a voicemail from a person.
They sent us a voicemail, and and we're gonna listen
to it and talk some ship about it. I guess
that's that's the whole deal. Let's do it all right, Olivia,
play that ship?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Uh number Why I am not saying.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Fair enough can hold of me?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That makes kids.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Try way too hard at life. And I'm just talking
like black and white. The only one I was around,
Uh either trying so hard to let everybody know how
black they are thinks a margin or they tough doing
(04:29):
all the just extra ship, or they want to make
sure that you know they Mama's white, even if they
you know, pretty darn elevating. They just got to let
you know about the white mama. They white family. That's
all the pictures they post on dista ground, and no
(04:49):
one is supposed to know. Your daddy is black and.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
David there it is black?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Is David? Good?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Way to hang up the phone, I'd say, all right,
blackest David.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
First of all, you don't have to say something nasty
to us. It's just if you want to. It's not
like a requirement. I'll be honest. I forgot that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We asked for that, and we've gotten a few voicemails
now where people have been like, I'm not gonna say
anything nasty to you. It's like, hey, man, I feel
like you're bringing up some old ship that I'm really
not even. I'm not expecting that of you at all.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I promise that was weeks ago. I was part of you.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I was just trying to impress Iana, dookie, I don't
know what.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm not trying to fuck you.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You really got on the phone. He was like, first
of all, fellas, I'm off limits. I'm saving myself. But
two different niggas. Yeah, anyway, only my conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, niggas shying. Fuck, yeah, that's so funny. Uh, this
is funny because I was we had talked about it
a little bit before. I think this is true if
anybody who feels like an outsider, I don't think it's
like just mixed people. But yeah, I do think mixed
people kind of go hard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I didn't hear any of this and and feel like
refuting it, you know what I mean, Like, I felt
like that's probably true. You go real hard for one
side of your your ship.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Become like I gotta I'm black, I'm black, or you
become I am white. I don't want nothing to do
with whatever it's over there, ass person.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I think my question with I this is about the
difficulty of striking the balance, because it does seem like
even if even if you know mixed people who don't
go too hard on either side they do, it always
seems to be like on one side was adopted more
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than the other. Like do you feel like you've ever
seen someone who kind of just walks straight in the middle.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, I don't think you do walk straight in the middle.
I think you pick a side, and the best of
us have learned to love the other side in the
in a way that is as meaningful. It can be
as meaningful as the side you chose. That's interesting, Like
I think objectively, I picked being black. There was no
(07:54):
part of me that was like I'm going white, I'm
gonna try that shit out. Like black was in and
culture and identity and the way that I wanted to
build community, it all was connected back to blackness. But
I don't hate white people because of my connection to them.
I hate white people because of my proud black experience.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Like it it I my my love for the white
people in my life is still meaningful and substantial and
not something that I'm like embarrassed about. And I think
there are some people who are able to get to
that spot. Would you say not at all?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, look I'm a dog. Yeah, No it is. It is. Uh,
it is very interesting because it's like, uh, do you
feel had you chosen the other side? Because it does
seem I think we had talked about this recently, you
(09:00):
and I had talked about it. It does seem that
if you choose that side to be black and to
choose to try to ingrace, you to be into whiteness
with no blackness. It does seem like that is sort
of a dangerous decision. Does that make sense to.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Go full to go white without any safety net?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because I don't think they're gonna let
you in.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And I think I think the unfortunate reality is the
type of people who make that choice either don't know
or don't care that what they're doing is dangerous, right,
do you know what I mean? Like, I think they're real.
Like I've I've seen the history books. I've read the
articles of black people going missing at weird parties because
(09:52):
they you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Know, there was like that. No, I don't know about
it just made me feel cold.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Dog, there's your story. Yeah, there's a story these ladies.
And it came out a few years ago. These this
group of like moms, right that all like get together
and they drink wine and they're like sort of a proud,
little fun mom group. And it's like seven white ladies
and one black lady. And the black lady came over
(10:17):
for like one of their like sleepover parties whatever and
then ended up dead, like fully was dead at the party,
and no explanation as to why her family never really
gets to figure it out. It's just like she did.
And they're saying she she like drank too much and fell.
(10:40):
It's like, now, uh, I mean it's it's I know,
I'm I'm butchering elements of this story, but I think
the core of it is exactly that, and it's a
very real story that has a documentary. I'm pretty fairly
certain I either watched a documentary YouTube documentary or like
(11:02):
a Netflix documentary about it. But either way, yeah, real
fucked up shit. And I think are a lot of
guys that aren't aware that that exists. But I think
most of them are like, nah, but they won't do
that to me. That's that thought. You should never feel
that way about anything.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
No, I mean maybe family, but like even then, you
should never feel that way about any situation.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, man, No, if they do that, they do that.
That's just how they are.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And that yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's worth unpacking, is why is my loved one like that?
And how can I help? But but no, you can't.
You can't assume you're exempt from the ship.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, do you think that That's what happens with that
a lot of times, is that people feel that way,
that they feel somehow exempt or like special.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think most of us think that we're exceptional.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah that's fair. I think you sort of have to. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Exceptional doesn't mean like good at something. It just means
the exception to something, so it you know what I mean. Like,
sometimes it's not that you think you are the best
at a thing. You know so many niggas that fucking
none of us would play basketball if it were about Uh,
(12:34):
it's being truly like the best of the best at
the thing, because only like three hundred guys can be that.
But we all play and think like, well, I'm better
than most of the people I know, and like I'm
still a winner. I'm still going to prevail in my
efforts because of who I am and what I represent.
(12:55):
It's like, well, that's not true at all.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, that's true. You have to think like that. I'm
not even mad at people thinking like that. Actually not.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
If you sit down and you play video games, you
fucking think you're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Did you stand up comedy at nighttime or whatever?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
There wasn't like a world of people in my life
being like you gotta do stand.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Up same, same, same. There was one person who turned
out to be very right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
But you know, let me be clear, Nobody was nudging
me into this, not a single person in my life.
It was like, you gotta get on stage, my man.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's so funny because you were already in the stage space.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, And they weren't like, hey, bro, I see a
clear pivot into comedy for you. That it was truly
my choosing that got Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That's beautiful in the way that you owned it, you
know what I mean? That decision is yours.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I own this shit.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
There was no body that wanted me to do this, truly,
there was. There were two people that were at my
first open mic, two friends of mine that came to
my first open mic because they found out I was
doing and that they wanted to tag along. And they
the entire time were like teasing and talking shit, being
like are you sure? Is this really something you want
(14:22):
to be doing? And you know, I don't think they
We're wrong, And truly, I just I just believed I
could be great at this thing that it made zero
sense for me.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Man, I feel so much better about her, but it
was so much easier for me. Then my sister was
there and she didn't know shit, she barely speaks English,
and she was like, you're going to be famous. I
was like, God, damn wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh that's nice my first one.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, she didn't come down. I don't think she's been
any subsequent shows. She shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No, she was there when I needed it. She said,
she sent you on your path, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
What I mean. And then yeah, homework down.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
He don't get them. Dogs don't get to go home
with everybody that's nice to them the way back to
where they belonged with Charlie I believe his name was
something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But all that, all that boy down to back to
this voicemail. I feel like we're just kind of saying, yeah,
of course, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think I think light skin yeah specifically makes people.
Uh and you know why. And that's the part that
I don't always like, is that like, And I'm going
to get a little big of it now. Since we're
being so mean to my people, I think a lot of.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Working that we were very open to. You've been nothing
this whole time, been nothing but helpful. This entire conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I've been pushing down a lot of age about this conversation.
You you're a nasty person with a nasty personality.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I think.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It is that's exactly what I was gonna talk about,
is there's this ongoing thing of dark skinned people being
like I don't know why they would behave that way,
and the whole time you're just being like you weak
little bitch yourself. It's poudy faced little boo boo head.
And it's like, well, yeah, if you're gonna emasculate me
(16:28):
off of like the color of my skin, and if
I get upset about it, I'm a coon, then yeah,
I'm gonna have to go real hard for this shit
or I'm gonna have to fully reject y'all. But there
ain't no middle ground to play inside of it interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I mean, do you think that becomes that's interesting because
I think that that comes from a lot of times,
like an older time where it was like the proximity
of whiteness was such a benefit, you know what I mean.
But now if you don't get that and then you
just get black, dark skinned people making fun of you,
that is that is it? That is not the greatest place,
(17:06):
Like you not even get the benefits that they're sneaking.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Is where is that where the rage? Because that is
if I am to open my mind is and be
the person I would like to be I think about that.
That does sound enraging.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Think about Jesse Williams, right, Jesse Williams, for like two years,
was elevated to this almost like sage level of blackness, right,
where like he had invested in his community, he had
spoken back the words that we needed most when we
(17:47):
needed them, he didn't even That's how he was sort
of like a fucking abolitionist almost at a certain point
inside of you know, popular culture, he was this iconic figure.
And then the nigga had a misstep, cheated on a
black lady, you know what I mean, Like did some
(18:08):
funny shit missteped, and immediately all people called him was
sort of a light skinned sort of fraud.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
They immediately turned on him, took everything valuable he take
he had said away from him and now like sort
of like shrank his his value to the point that
he doesn't even feel confident to speak on issues in
this public manner anymore. And so yeah, that nigga's angry,
(18:38):
do you know what I mean? And like is he
feels fucking defrauded by this thing that he invested in
and can't uninvest because of how vocal he was inside
of it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So yes, rage, But now do you feel like because
on the other hand, were the ones as far as
darker people who were kind of seen more as aggressive
in what and whatnot? Without having that is that better?
Would you rather have that stigma on you? Because I
(19:09):
will say, especially as a child, it's like very apparent you. Yeah,
you are placed in that box immediately. I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And that's where I also think this conversation gets dangerous.
Is I don't mean to suggest for a second that
light skin people are the ultimate victims here. I think
that that certainly there is a level of like for real,
for real bigotry that that sort of cycles its way
between members of the diaspora, right that like we are,
(19:41):
we are mean and violent to each other in a
multitude of ways. That said, the ultimate positioning of darker
skinned people in the world in social experiment and experiences
rather is as low as you get and there's no
debating it. And anybody suggests otherwise is a bad actor,
(20:04):
it's or not lying, is.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Just not clearly aware of what's going on.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, I think they're lying. I don't think anybody's like
fucking confused about you know what I mean? Like Lenny
Kravitz ain't being like Damn, me and my mama had
the same kindahol, Like nobody's that ain't how it works,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, I also wonder because if we're speaking in real,
real generalities, have you met a lot of people who
you feel like and I think right now I'm thinking
(20:50):
of men specifically. Have you met a lot of people
who have subverted it? Have you met a lot of
like kind of spoken, light nice, light skinned guys who
don't have those tendencies and they feel like or do
you think that the system causes the rage, but the
rage is real?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I feel like I meet people all the time that
probably fall somewhere outside of that spectrum, right of like
being a rageful person, much in the way that I
think all stereotypes are our levels of truth and falsehood,
right that, like, not all of us are any of
(21:29):
the things that we're supposed to be. I do think
it is impossible to be a mixed person connecting to
blackness and not at least be aware of that suggestion
at all times, Right that, Like one way or the other,
you think about it when you get angry or you know,
(21:51):
when you're having an interaction that might challenge you to
question if you're angry about something, you think like, damn,
am I am I falling into some version of a stereotype,
But Nah, I don't. I don't feel stressed about the ship,
and I don't think most I don't think most the
people that I interact with as like mixed people are either.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That is always to me. That's where sort of the
needling and whatnot it always come from. Is that. It's like,
I don't even think y'all think you know what I mean?
That was sort of that's sort of to me, that's
where where it comes from. Where it's like, I don't
think you feel like you know what I mean? Yeah,
I think you I And it's like, obviously you cannot.
(22:35):
It is not a good game to start comparing suffering
or whatever, But you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And I think part of the reason that that it
probably means more to us than it means to y'all.
The reason it's a throwaway joke for y'all and it's
our fucking identity is because of how bad we want
to be a part of the community we picked, do
you know what I mean? Like, at its core, I
think like a mixed person when they make that choice,
(23:04):
really fucking wants inclusion, and it's an inclusion that frankly
probably isn't possible and shouldn't be possible. But but I
don't know. We live in this weird, shitty binary country,
so we gotta make choices.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, do you feel like because I also wonder with that,
is it like that for Europeans, like our dudes in London,
like making fun of light skin guys, like I know,
you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But I think that's because they are constantly copying off
of us.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
That's what I'm Okay, that's fair, That's that's what I mean. Though.
So like, let's take maybe trying to think where the
dyaspa exists that maybe like Asia, because I assume there's
black people there. Do you think it's like it all
seems to be the cues seem to all be taken
from American.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think about South Africa a lot, right, and how
South Africa separates black from like the colored people, right that,
Like there's literally a tier in between where they go, nah,
he's colored, he's black. Sometimes their colors are very similar,
but one of them is colored and one of them
(24:13):
is black. And part of it is because of you know,
the racial mixing, the sort of like cast system almost
that was created. And I think certainly that casting is
shitty in its results, but it probably is more honest
to who is connecting on a socio emotional level. Do
(24:36):
you know what I mean that, Like, a person of
my skin color is probably more correct for me to
be aligning with than someone of your skin color. Like
the fact that we both call each other the same
thing is nuts.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
It is difficult because it's like, like you said, there's
a culture that was chosen, and that is it's like
an agreed to It's like in a greed participation. This
culture so in that you can kind of say that
we are the same.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I think culturally that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Becomes a difficulty, right, is like when we nitp.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think I think culturally one hundred percent. But I
think part of the reason that racial designations were created
was meant to be more specific than culture. It was
literally like you are this color, and you are this color,
and these people are different than these people. And I
(25:32):
think the fact that white people tricked us forced our
hand in some ways into mixing all of blackness into
a single identity is in my opinion, as much a
trick as it is a violence.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Like that is how.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You you create a system where people continue to never
like fully be able to empower themselves is because we
are trapped, uh sort of always connecting back to representation
that isn't truly our experience.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that. Yeah, because all
these things are like, yeah, I don't know, I'm thinking
multiple things. He once, because I think about when I
think about colorism, I think about like my experiences in
Africa specifically, and how there's no white people over there.
But it's like all the same kind of things ring true,
(26:29):
you know what I mean, And like the way it's
perceived because I'm dark even for Africa, which is crazy real,
I'm dark for my family.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's really funny to think that there's like an award
out there for darkest man and you'd be a real
competitor for it.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm for it, for it, and it is like it
is like it is like I think I don't think
that I don't think that I ever ran from it,
but I do think that societally, what was placed on
me because of it would cause me to make light
skin junkson. I made fun of light skin people in
my whole life, always, always, and.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm saying, I'm saying, I've never experienced anything like what
you've experienced. And there's no level of connecting.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
To to cool mody.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Who's y'all king cool mody, that's gonna make me a line,
you know what I mean? Or are fully empathized with
your experience. And so I think in that way, And
I don't think it's a separating because I go like,
oh I'm better or you're worse or any of that.
(27:56):
I just think it's the violence that white people created
was making us go, we're the same.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That's fair, We're built different.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, Africa is more tribal than it is even like countries.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, that just came up. I was just talking. I
was just thinking about that because I was talking to
my mom and my cousin is married to a Timney woman,
which is a different tribe, and it's like, we'll talk
worse about them than what do you talk about white people?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You know, the countries are white people drawings, you know
what I mean? If it were truly like on some
African ship, that map would be so little it'd be
like everybody on this block. Yeah, yeah, it would be crazy.
(28:48):
So you know, we create these larger margins with which
to identify people, and or or rather white people created
these larger margins in order to control and identify people.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Well, I'm glad that you're angry, Langston, thanks man, No problem, man.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
All I do is come on here and connect more
with my friends and my Lord. Yeah, this is a
prayer first podcast. We've always been that way. Come on,
look at God and and then I get accused of
being an angry, light skinned carc cuture.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Also, we're all angry, We're all very everybody's pretty angry
about how shit's going.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Man, nobody's pumped about the way things are heading.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Shout out to do you, to the to the buff
King himself, Luigi Mangione.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
We we were thinking about you every day.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Luigi never a faker sounding Italian name. That's like, just
like if you ask me, like to just make up
an Italian person's name, Yeah, that's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It sounds like after you say you got to put
a little bit of tomato sauce around.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
The only name better I could think of is spaghetti Alfredo. Yeah,
I asked this on time. There's got to be somebody
in Italy whose last name is Spaghetti, right, like, there's
got to be eight one family.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I guess there's a We got people with the last
name Hamburger.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, so you know there's there's a Fred Freddie Spaghetti
out there.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I guess what I would challenge you is, nobody's last
name is hot dog. And some names feel like they're
they're not families that are like just made up completely.
Maybe Spaghetti is that.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I don't know. I don't know enough about their culture
and I don't care to.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But fair enough, but there are people with the last
name Alfredo.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
See, and that was made up here?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Really? I think alfreda we made that up, right, I
don't know if that's true. Hold on America made up
Fetichini Alfred Alfredo.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, might have been black people. We
perfected it. We love it the most.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I was saying, I'm willing to stand on that, and
I don't care now that I know it's not even Italian.
I don't give a fuck who this offends. Black people
love Alfredo Sauce more than any people on this planet.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Think about the high how many black restaurants has it?
Is it like Fini or some kind of seafood pasta, Yeah,
you know what I mean? And then banana pudding because
you feel like they're not working as hard on the desserts.
Come on like it's like I spent so much money
for Alfredo with lobster bits in it.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, it's it's Alfredo plus meat and that is our ship.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah it is good. I'm not even mad at it.
I do love Alfredo.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I like it. It's not my favorite, but I like it,
and I like what we do to it. I think
black people really put a spin on it that makes
it a little more appetizing than when I go to
any other white owned establishment. And when I say white,
I include Italians because again, we are not playing that
game with y'all.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
All right, Oh yeah, shout out Alfredo. We love it.
We could have invented it. I think we just love
a cream sauce.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Man. We really got to get over the homophobia. I know,
it's so deep in our roots.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
That know. If that fucked me up. I did not
like saying it, and I don't love to admit that,
but that's I was like, God, what are you saying
on this no.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But I don't even mean just your your your response
to it. I mean more specifically, we we love Alfredo
sauce so much and and it's it's a part of us,
and we can't even celebrate it because we're so worried
we're gonna be gay when.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
We do it. And by the way, I know a
bunch of gay people. They're not just slurping up Alfredo
sauce so bait. That's the funniest part about this whole shit.
I lived with the gay guy. He wasn't just eating
hotdogs in the kitchen with his booty out, you know
what I'm saying. It wasn't even it's only straight guys
who were worried about that because he already is gay.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's see, that's where I'm gonna disagree with you. I
actually think, I actually think gay men are doing exactly
that all the time. I think it's nothing but popsicles
in the refrigerator and banana's on the counter.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I think, oh, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I think they open up their closet and it's tank
tops and strobe lights. That's what I believe about the game.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well, yeah, I think we got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I hope this answers your question. We never got
your name and we never will. No, but thank you
for the start sending voicemails. I like voicemails better. Voicemails
are nice. It's nice to hear your voices. It's nice
to hear the condescension, condescension out loud. Yeah, we sometimes
misread how you're being condescending to us and it turns
(34:31):
out no, you had a specific plan. And typing is
hard because.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
You know what we don't get in the voicemails. You
guys are such geniuses. I think you're brilliant. That's only
for the email nerds. Guys.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I know you say you're rascaling around, but I think
you got to get into politics.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, oh man, all right, we did.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You want to tell the people where they can find you?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Guy jokes Sonney, Instagram, Patreon, back Patreon, dot com, backslash,
David boy with the g go on there. I got
a bunch of videos by my special Birth of a Nation.
You can also listen to it wherever you stream your music, Spotify,
Apple Music, all that shit.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Listen to it, Go listen to go, listen to the album,
Go buy the album or the special and uh follow
me at Langston Kerman. I'm not gonna say fuck the Instagram.
It's still where I build my confidence. Uh Uh follow
me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms, especially Instagram.
(35:38):
If you want to send us your own drops, your
own conspiracy theories. If you want to tell us, well, okay,
if you want to tell us what city Fetichini Alfredo
was invented in and who is the the black ass
inventor of Fetigeni Alfredo, send it all to my Mama
pod at gmail dot com. We would love to hear
(35:59):
from you. Also, you can call us at eight four
four Little Moms. That's eight for four Little Moms. We
will be doing a super cut episode. This is exciting,
a super cut episode of the best parts of my
Mama told me in twenty twenty four. That's gonna be
happening on December thirty, first New Year's Eve.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
You can bring in.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You can prepare for the new year by thinking about
some of the best shit that we did all all
throughout the last year.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Ain't that nice? It's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
That's so nice. You sit there, No, don't connect with
your family and your friends. Listen to us on New
Year's Eve. Sure you should find people to be close to,
maybe a gal or a boy to kiss.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
No, no, no, sure, Am I gonna be in Mexico
living it up eating fetacini? Yeah, but you listen to us.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Come on, am I gonna try to get my kids
to bed early so I could have a drink with
my wife and maybe we have sex on the couch.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
And no, sure, that's what I'm on that I'll be
at Let's go. But you you could be listening to us.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, it'll be good for you.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
But yeah, anyway, by the merch uh rate review subscribe.
Uh celebrate Kwansa. It's it's the most important holiday of
the year. Bye bitch, because I look good, you smell good,
I feel good, and you sing good and make love good.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Oh, motherfucking mini year so mini episode, motherfucking mini episod,
motherfucking mini ever so mini episode, mother fucking mini Everisol
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