NBA Magic Tricks (with Josiah Johnson)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I just think wings take taste better with pussy and
and that's in the air.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Come, it's just the aesthetic will why. Yeah, I just
think at the end of the day, that's the You gotta.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Like a wine pairing, you know, it's like a wine
and cheese pairing where you're like, oh, yes, the notes
of the subtle buffalo flavor bring out.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It brings out the tannins in the one hundred Yeah,
I think that's one hundred percent what it is.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I didn't have the words for it. No, no, no,
It's like I also think there's like an element of
the sweat in the air and then a little just
a dash of desperation.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And I would say the darkness that that nice darkness
it puts on the wings where you you see some
titties and then you gotta search a little for the wing.
It just makes it this romantic sort of experience.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh my god. I mean, man, I remember in San
Francisco they had this place and that the Gold Club.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Good lunch is at the Gold Club. I have not been,
but they've told me good things about it.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh man, shout out to got me through some tough times.
Singers are racist money stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
I can't tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they
dribble up and down the court. Welcome O Mama's and
gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep deep into
the pockets of black conspiracy theories and.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
We finally worked to prove whatever bullshit we feel about
talking Today. I said about talking, and it doesn't matter.
I listen anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know, Pig, I wasn't gonna correct his sentence at all.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I know it. It was just telling me I felt
bad you you could feel that that's not the way
you wanted to say it immediately. Uh, you know what
I've been thinking about though, This is what I came
and I wanted to talk about those little robots that
they have all over La. I took a walk this morning.
I realized, I think they make them look so cute
and dispatch them in the morning because they want you

(02:28):
to think about little kids on their way to school
and feel like they're innocuous. Like because I was looking
at it and it's just so cute, and it's like
it's stopped. It looks like a kid with a big
ass backpack. And big ass glasses walking school. And they
want you to think that so that you don't understand
that that's the enemy, so so that you you want

(02:49):
to protect them. That's it was so cute when I
was walking, That's all I kept thinking. I was like,
it was a cute little robot. I want to keep
him safe.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Yeah, look, big robot eyes he got stop if you
can't walk wabbling And that's not we need ugly robots, bro.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I like that. I think that is like that's the future,
is like we need laws that robots have to be.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
That is crazy that when they start building sort of
these humanoid robots and they've already, you know, had versions
of these things happened, they always make them baddies. They
don't never make them a little ugly ghoul. That is
probably frankly more common in the human experience than the
batties are.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm telling you, they want you to fuck them. They
want you to think they're c you. They want you
to want to protect like they don't want Like, Bro,
if you you get a robot that just looks like
a manager at Sally's Beauty supply, you're not gonna You're
not gonna feel any way towards it.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, give me that, Sam, Sam Cassell, Robot Bro already
mind this business, no episode. I'm not saying anything.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
You don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
I'm sure you know. But he doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I think he's all right.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
He's he ain't worried about what I'm talking about. I'm
just saying that's what we should be looking at.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
We should be looking at, and I do want to know,
just for the listenership. I like ugly people better. I
do think that's cooler. I think it's like a greater
distance to travel to be successful, especially in media and entertainment.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
If you are ugly. I really don't respect really beautiful
people that. Okay, Yeah I don't. I don't fully disagree
with that. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
There's no part of me that pushed his back on that.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
No, ugly people don't get privileged.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Ugly people they get it out of her. Every ugly person.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
You don't really see ugly people in positions of power
who were bad at ship, you know what I'm saying.
You don't see a lot of ugly ass bosses who
don't run the ship out of that start yeah, and
that's like, I think that's like admirable, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Wow damn.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh yeah, very effective, very effective.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
He arguably the most ever effective person.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I don't think he's but ugly though. I think he's
quirky looking but ugly, but he's.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
He's like works really hard to get to this.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's true. PayPal Elon is bad looking. I think bad hair.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I think you're really underestimating how much we we know
for a fact, this motherfucker went and like tried to
fix it.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I mean, listen, there's short guys in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I'm not saying this is like it's not a perfect here.
It's just like the odds every day. I'm just saying
in general, man, I I man, we need to go back.
We need to have like ugly presidents. I think we
need like, we need more ugly people. I don't I
don't disagree with you. I I our guest today. You've

(05:59):
already heard his boy. He's already been participating.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
In the I'm enjoying the show. We're not gonna.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's what we don't want it to be. We came here,
we came here to have very important conversations all this
conspiracy you brought to us, and so we're very excited
you're here. He's he's a goddamn king of what was
formerly known as Twitter. You know him from from his
new film Memes and Nightmares. You know him from the
most importantly, No Chill with Gilbert Arenas. He's hilarious, he's

(06:27):
so talented. To give it up for Josiah Johnson.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
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Speaker 5 (06:39):
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Speaker 4 (06:42):
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Speaker 3 (06:46):
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the side.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
You already know.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
We never think about that. To be honest, I freak.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
D XL cols, Like I only got like three or
four places. Stop.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
It's like, I think, being a fat guy in those stories,
you start to think the tall guys are a myth.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
No. Yeah, you got the big section and the tall
section together. Okay, so you got the T on the
end of your shol for sure.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Wow, I thought that I didn't even know what that
was for.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
You thought they were just doing that to keep y'
all comfortable.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I thought it was to make you feel better when
somebody call you big man.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, like, come on, there's only one reason that you're
saying that. It's not tall, it's not cool because you're
just yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Anyways, you gotta plug. You want to do it like
you should. We should manifest plugs. Do I have a plug?
He's got You gotta have a thing that you want.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I feel like, yeah, probably, but then it feels like
it gets embarrassing very quickly. Oh really, just be open, okay,
crunchy roll, I really want you to give us free
past paths words this to the country roles so I
could watch anime all day.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Ain't wrong with that. You're gonna be mad at me.
That's why I didn't want to do it.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
I knew.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
The only answer I had was honest. It wasn't like
a good joke, No, that was good man.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I just want to be able to watch anime and
and fucking nerd out all day.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's good man.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
No, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, you have you have an aspirational plug. You already
got your real.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I like basic ship snapple like these are the functional
things that I like to use and drink around the house.
So I snap, I'm a big Sousius fan. So I
shot out Celsius every day before the show in the water. Okay,
some of my castmates get mad at me, say it's
bad for you. I say, look, I ain't gonna live forever.
Let me enjoy, Let me enjoy my day.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
This heart is gonna explode at some point.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Take calories, energy, shout out Selsa.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Shout out Selsea and cuny room. Don't you be mad
at me. I'm having a good time.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Jasiah, you came to us today with the conspiracy that
I frankly knew about but had never put a lot
of thought into. You know, it's one of those that
I think is rumored in such a way as like, oh,
I don't know how to unpack the truth and not
truth from this. But you said that my mama told me.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
In nineteen eighty five NBA draft was read.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Uh, let me use the words wisely because I'm hoping
to get credential by the NBA some day. The King
NBA quitter that wasn't very fruitful and actually getting any
love from the league so long tickets, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Every every time.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
So we put credential requests out and I'm literally at
this points like two or three days a week before
the event. So let's says our weekend summerly, whatever it is,
your credential has been denied.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
But I see all the people that are there, and
I know I'm working hard for the league, but I'm
a big NBA fan.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I love the league.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
My dad played in the NBA back in the day,
and for me, it's like you look at leagues like
the NFL. Right, you're the worst team in the NFL,
you get the number one pick, as it should be,
you have the worst record you deserve to have. So
the NBA has always had this like ping pong lottery
like as you know, I think eighties was when it
first started. But they tell this story back in the day,
David Stern obviously, Nick's you know Patrick Ewing coming out

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of Georgetown.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
And in New Yorker David Stern, which is important and New.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
York or Patrick Ewing if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
From Boston, but then then went to New York by
way of Jamaica.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, he's Jamaica.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
And Jamaica Queens confused but shout out, shout out to
Patrick Ewing. But number one player in college at that point.
So they show the video and if you go through
and watch it, they basically like have this big like
tumble thing with all the different envelopes in it. So
they spend it a couple of times. But you see
him kind of reaching there, feel around, and there was
always saying the envelope was frozen or it was a

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little bit lighter, and there.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Was something going on.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
He just happens to to yank get out. Hey I'm
not looking, but hey, Yank, get out of here. The
New York Knicks get the number one pick and they
end up getting Patrick Ewing obviously, And you talk about
the league that even nowadays with viewership issues and even
stuff we saw in contemporary draft lottery time like the
one that was recent, it always seems to work out
that way. You got Lebron James coming out of high

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school after in Ohio. What do you know, Cleveland Cavs
get the number one pick.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Derrick Grosse has a Denver pers native. Not a great
time for me. Oh you you thought you had a shot.
I thought I was like, man.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
I ain't good mellow, so shit.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I mean, yeah, it was cool, but I was like,
we're getting new jerseys, We're getting lebron.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know what's crazy. I never thought anyone else had
a shot. I mean because you weren't number two though,
you know what I mean. It was I feel like
it was like we were close enough that it was like, no,
this could really.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Really you really believed in the possibility of what this
could be. And then I was like, it's going to
be that we're gonna have some great colorway that's coming
out to I was like, the city is gonna change.
And then they hit us with sky blue. Yeah, that
was a bad run, brother, it was you know, it's
like it's like the way my heart sank when I

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saw it, and I'm just like, oh man, that ship
was really upsetting his baby. Blue is a terrible color,
especially for fat guys. It's not it's not good. It's
not flattering. It's not flattering at all. It's like black,
come on. And then it's like, you had a jersey
that can make a guy like Kenyon Martin not look

(12:54):
cool that it was impressive. That's work, that's work. Yeah,
gonna watch this, oh Man, man look cool and everything. Yeah,
dug night.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, So so you obviously that you're a kid at
this point, I'm three years old.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
With three years old, it's happening.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
So you're eighty two obviously, Draft eighty five.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You're you're you're not aware that this is happening. At
what point does this get on your radar?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Well, when you just see over the years how convenient
it is even now twenty twenty five, MAVs trade Luca
to kick off Black History, Mother, bring him to the Lakers.
God bless Nico Harrison. Nico gets a lot of heat hated.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Person in the league. They booing him at medieval times.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
More here you mean just eating him alive.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
He looked like Jafar from Aladdin. What the grill grill look?

Speaker 4 (13:47):
But so Trey Luco away for seemingly not a ton
of return, right, no disrespect to to Anthony Davis or
Max Christie or one first round draft pick. But we've
seen Rudy Gobert go for five six first round Andrew
saw mchal Bridge is going to the Knicks for five
first rounders, Like, yeah, good generational talent, you know what
I mean? All NBA perennial first team all NBA. Yeah,

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we didn't we getting Max Christy in the first round pick.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
We thought it was highway Robberts.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
And Anthony Davis. That don't look even close to the
Anthony Davis hes.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
It gets hurt, I think before that came back, got hurt.
But then they end up going they make the playing
win their first game, and it's like and then I
do a show with Gill and Gil the whole time,
like what the fuck y'all doing? Man, Like, like you
have a chance to now build through the draft, Like
why would you ever want to go to the playoffs?
End up, I think they would have got the AC
end up getting swept by the thunder. You're not gonna
You're not gonna do anything. So his whole thing, and

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I agree, is like you're not gonna win the championship.
There's like four or five teams every year that are
trying to win a championship. If you're not trying to
win a championship, you might as well not tank it,
but not just give your best effort whatever whatever's in
between there.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, it feels it feels crazy that the playoff team
got the pick. Not like objectively that feels nothing where
like we historically don't ever see that of like you
went to the playoffs and you still get the best.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, that seems it just doesn't. It's not like a
it's not like a fair situation.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
It's a bullshit.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
I think there were eleventh overall of the fourteen lottery
teams in terms of I think it was like one
point eight percent chance of getting that pick. Meanwhile, you
got the Hornets who are trash, You got the Jazz
who are trash. You got the Wizards who are absolutely trashed.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Don't forget about the Chicago Bulls were always rooting for them.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
But the Bulls got him. That giddy shot still haunts
me man like watching that. We do Workings Company playback,
so we stream live game. So we're doing that game,
going crazy thinking the Lakers go win. The fucker has
a half quarter.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Man.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
But the Bulls getting screwed. I think it's the second time,
if I'm not mistaken. So I want to say the
Bulls and the MAVs have the same records with basically
a coin flip to see who got that eleven spot.
That eleven spot ends up getting the number one overall pick.
Bulls get kind of screwed out of it. I want
to say the second time it happened with them in
the MAVs. Think the last time I have drafted Lucas.
So it's kind of you know, ship going on.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Here's my question. I feel like we open it up
and we just say it. I feel like we've talked
about it a lot on this podcast. How rig do
you think the NBA is? I mean, that's what we're
beating around the bush, right.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
The NBA is entertainment. So the NBA similar to wrestling entertainment.
They don't really classify themselves as a sportsly we do,
but I think, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
When you get to you think they don't.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I think they do it entertainment because it gives a
little bit more leeway and flexibility in terms of how
they operate from behind the scenes. It's entertainment rights there
to entertain Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's like lawyer talk. They hired it very powerful lawyers.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
The Crews all lawyers Deaver starting back in the day,
like successful lawyer I believe worked for the league before
ended up coming commissioner.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I want to say. Adam Silver followed a similar trajectory on.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
His I'll tell you Jumping come on, come on, and
for those who know that one of them boys put
the ball on the court, not one.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
You talk about behind the scenes ship like you know,
strong army. You know, Gil's got his dock out on
Netflix now shooting guards. We were just watching and something
he said, and I have no problem telling everybody on
your show. But he said repeatedly, it was like Gil
is a loophole expert, right, so Gil should.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Have been a lawyer. I could really see that.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
So before he brought guns to the locker room, he researched,
all right, what's the long as I can get suspended.
It's like, all right, you know player X brought it in.
He got two games. This player shot a gun. He
got three games, like most I'm gonna get his five.
That this is how he operates the life.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I thought it was just being a silly billy. He's like, no,
I'm gonna make sure. I'll put it into everything.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
So I'm like, must get his five games, but I'm
gonna do it. That's how his mind was. He says.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
The reason he felt like he got punished is because
they knew he was moving guns around, right.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
So that's what it ended up becoming. But if you
go back to why he initially got suspended. It wasn't
because the guns in the locker room, because they can
never prove anything, right, This thing came out like a
week or two after the fact. It was kind of
just going around the locker room. Somebody ended up snitching
to the press and then it went crazy. But that's
all these dudes and you guys know, like we might
have a situation here, we want to fight each other.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Now we're cool, but a week from now, we hear
you know, we've moved on. We passed it. Everybody now
was like, man, we've heard about that ship that went down.
It's like, yeah, I forgot all about that. All y'all
did bring thus in the locker room and I'm tripping,
But you watch this guy.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
It is not that kind of environment here, though it
would be crazy. It would fuck us up. Energy two
guns and put on the couch and said, pick I
tell on all y'all niggas immediately.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
But then you dig.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
And that's that's even the situation with John, Like John
really get jammed up for the gun in the strip club, right,
it was more like, well, how the gun get there?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
And oh really, how did you how did.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You what's the relationships you.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Bring that on on a team playing on a team bus,
because now it becomes something deeper.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
But Guil didn't get suspended for the guns.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
He got suspended because he was in warm ups fucking
around and he did the the finger guns. And then
David Stern saw that and was like, all right, dog, like,
I'm not the strong arm your ass on where the other.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Is a crazy thing to do, though.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think what makes it nasty though, is the fact
that they can't prove it right, like, especially with the
Josh situation. They because what they told us via the
media was that he was bringing the guns into the
locker room and onto the planes.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
But they don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
That for unless he says I did it, which I
don't think he's done.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
But that's just but the point being, it's not like
he got on the plane and was like, hey, y'all,
look at my gun.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
He's in a strip club, tons of ones on the
ground holding in Colorado, which is I believe an open carriages.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Okay, So I was gonna say about the Josh situation.
Wrong strip club, you go to Dandy Dan's. That shit
doesn't happen to you, brother, yeah, you go up off
the Federal though that you like. He was just so
sh like you should have guns. It's like trash. You
only go there. They got steak on Tuesdays. That's all

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they got going.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Well, that's that's yeah. I love a strip club that
bounces as a culinary eats out Magic City.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Post made it to me, man, Honestly, if we're talking
about drop ads, we want Magic City highways.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Okay, we're in agreement on this. That would be agreement.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
No, okay, because I got I was I was doing
some stuff with TNT. I was in Atlanta, got them
Post made it to the to the hotel. Was not
impressed when they were like baby, I'm like, damn, what's
going down?

Speaker 5 (20:24):
They gave me the bottom of the barrel winder. You
got to come in.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Money on Monday. Yeah, we need to take a break.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
But before we do, my question for you, leading uh
I guess into this break is what do you say
to the issue of it being Dallas specifically, because that
is not a major market, It's not one that we've
ever historically championed, right in terms of like sinking the
money into it, and more importantly, there's not that many

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incentives to make it good again if you just straighted
away Lucas.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
So how do we justify that part?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
I think that is still top ten market if I'm
not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I think that. I mean, I don't sound like it, but.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Because I saw the same thing, I'm like, yo, Like
you know, we kind of look at the MAVs like
they're a small market team, but top ten everything.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Mark Cuban came over to do.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
But Mark Cuban ends up selling the team, giving up
control of the basketball operations to Aldiser family, who owns
the SAMs Corps, who's heavy in gaming. So the initial
rumor was they wanted to bring a casino to the arena.
We're salty that the state of Texas was kind of
hating on that the legislature wasn't letting you get through.
So they're like, all right, well fuck you. We're trading
the Golden Boy, now what, and we're gonna make bread

(21:33):
either way. This franchise is gonna be valuable either way.
You are still coming to games like we've seen before.
Steve Bomber took over the Clippers. He's done amazing job.
But Donald Sterling, my dad played for the Donald Sterling
Clippers most embarrassing organization probably in the history of sports,
used to practice at the YMCA, played at the sports Arena.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Like, hey, now shout out to the mc LA. I'm
not big, yam C a guy. That's another that's another
there this morning.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, well it was like man bro Is. It was
like twenty eight dollars from the house. I couldn't justify it.
I just got ten thousand steps in the team right
on back.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
It makes it. But YMC a great for common folk
like us. Imagine your NBA.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Team just six eight common we're just just but just
three common dudes over, we're just three comedy.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
But imagine your NBA team practicing and you got to
Lea Pilate's classes coming in.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
What is going on?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
So you got a bunch of naked art median dudes.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
You gotta go our time on who you are?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
He's not to finished the court. Yeah, they say that
it's time to play a bunch of dudes who in
jeans half court?

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
So the new new management group comes in, new ownership
group ended up making the trade for Luke And like
I said, we heard that trade, everybody thought it was nuts.
Everybody shadow over at Nico Harrison myself included, you know,
fire Nico chants all that stuff, but the massive raised
ticket prices after the Luca trade. So it's like, let
me scratch my head here, some ship's going on.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Now. I'm not I'm not gonna call the league.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
There's been a ton of people in the media who
are expect to say, oh no, this process just happens
the way it is. But I think the percentage of
the team three teams that got it, mass Furs and
Sixers we got the first three pictures zero point one
percent of that happening, obviously much lower than the lottery,
but even the MAVs winning, I think it's one point
eight percent. And we talked about on the show. That'd
be like me putting a stack of cards saying, hey,

(23:18):
pick the two of diamonds and you're reaching in boot
to a diamon. Is like the percentage of that potentially happening.
So it's not nuts is a magic trick, trickery, it's convenient.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I mean it's not zero percent, but it's say silly
number close to zero.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Person as wild shipped to see it actually happen and
now then be able to get Cooper flag, who's the
great American white hope looka European of course, but one
favorite replacement. We've got American Caucadia.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I mean, if we have to qualify it, I don't know,
because maybe this is just because of the Nuggets thing.
I kind of like the European whites.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Joker, like the fast, sloppy. Look, don't look will Cook.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
You got those scary around my city. Even though when
he's gone, they bro I know a girl, I know
somebody who lives in their building, and she was like,
he's gone. As soon as the season's over. They're just
up there. They just don't know, okay, just lurking around.

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I like that, man. I love that they're like, man,
we ain't going back there.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
We really run this city with the horses representative.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
They are outside and tight, tight T shirt.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Good for them, good for them, and frankly, good for
the Dallas Mavericks. I think Dallas y'all figured it out.
Whatever the game was, you you fucking mastered it perfectly.
We're gonna take a break. We were gonna come right
back with more Josiah Johnson more.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
My mama told me.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
We're not gonna let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris cut
America's meets.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's that on that. That's that on that, and we're
not gonna let the NBA continue to rig our league
we love so much.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't know if I want the alternative as much
as I think I do.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I mean, wrestling is as fun as any other thing, right,
and it.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Does create sort of this weird commitment to your teams
in a way that that actually makes the the the
experience more meaningful.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I would say, do you know what I mean that?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Like when I remember as a kid, my favorite team
growing up was that Sacramento team that almost you know.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
What I mean and.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Teaming Yeah, that team was nice. Team done.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
I got a funny story. Actually, yeah, so this tattoo.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
So one of my teammates used l a Mike Bibby's cousin,
Ryan Walcass, my guy we still riding to this day.
So they used to have tattoo Day, Uh, the Bibby
family from Phoenix. So I'd happened to roll in during
the off season. I think Mike was doing a camp
or something. It was tattoo day. So I rolled up
to the tattoo parlor. Mike Bibby brought me this uh
this one right here to Pitch Johnson, which is my
last name, official last name.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
But he was like, you want to yeah, Mike, fat
are those characters also saying people know? So I got them? Uh,
I get it, but you got to see.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
No, Marcus can't be like the big Chinese symbols work
away back then. I can't speak a lick of Chinese,
probably one of my biggest regress in life. But I
own it and I wear it like a badge of
it's supposed to say, fear no man. But my Chinese
friends are kind of like, ah, nigga, not this time.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
If I had to explain the embarrassment on my body,
it was a cool thing to do. Ain't no shaman
tattoo shaming.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
We don't do that.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Marcus can't be, though, Mark, you have the big ass
Chinese symbols. You no, niggas had no connection to China
whatsoever it was, which they still do.

Speaker 9 (27:05):
But that might be its. But I mean, I'm talking
about the Francisco era. There was a lot of dragons
running man Jackie Chan had a cartoon. He did the
Jackie Chan Adventures.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, y'all remember that. I do remember that on channel
on the WB.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
It was like it was like the more like it
was like almost anime a little bit.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
It kind of had like a more advanced you tuna,
are you leveraging for Crunchy roll again?

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, Crunchy. If you got that Jackie Chan cartoon, go ahead,
let me watch it. I'm trying to watch it for free.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Jackie Chan did rush it for a while.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, Yeah, he was going crazy. That was a big
rumble in the Bronx guy. That was my Jackie Chan.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I will say, now that we're talking about it, then
this is my conspiratorial brain really triggering. I do think
they kind of gave Tom Cruise some of Jackie chan ship.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Whoa wait, expand, I.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Think Jackie Chan really has been a I do my
own stunts motherfucker for a long time.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Because he came from like the Circus, right or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think he just came from karate.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
I think he's like a classic.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
But but more importantly, he's a dude who's been cooking
at that from the moment we met him. Tom Cruise
went through like fifteen evolutions before he became the idea. Guys,
who like truly did all his own stunts.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Also, Tom Cruise couldn't he couldn't share a bill with
Chris Tucker. That was a terrible movie. You want to
watch that back and forth Tom Cruise and Chris Tucker.
Tom Cruise sur like, don't touch my radio. He's like.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
You you and I want to listen to Kholm mood.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's hilarious. No, I think they gave jack I think
Jackie Chan.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
I'm about to just take would be the first time
we've seen the colonize and gentrifying.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Because I don't think that Jackie Chan would be opposed
to jumping out of a plane, you know what I mean.
I don't think he'd be scared to like bungee jump
off of the fucking waterfall.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Here's what I think it's it's they just were like,
now we'll fund Tom in all of this.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Here's my question in true gentrifiers status, are the stunts
Tom Cruise is doing more difficult than the ship that
Jackie Chan was doing?

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Think so?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean the Jackie ship was like I don't I
think one could go one way. I don't think the
other could go You you know what I'm saying Jackie
was so athletic. I don't think that Jackie Tom Cruise
could do the ship.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, Jackie Champer, you're saying that that it actually is
much harder to get legit kicked in the face off
of like a box tower than it is to like
have this massive rig that ensures you won't actually ever
get hurt.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
You just have to be brave enough to when he
jumped off the ship and rumble in the bronx and
he broke his foot or whatever. Like, I just think that, like,
I think the degree of difficulty might have been higher
on Jackie champ because Jackie jams approven like he's like
he's a martial artist. It's not like Tom Cruise was like,
oh I was mad athletic and then I became a

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movie starter. I think he's kind of just a guys.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, I really want to die. Yeah this happens. I'm
disappointed that Jockey letting me down.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, and yeah the church, the church doesn't doesn't approve
of suicide. So I'll figure it out another one in
a movie. Damn, that's dark.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I'm acting.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's how he's about to check out Mission impossible.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Impossible. I'll just say that too.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
At some point the mission they're possible, eight of them.
You could do it. He's doing it. That's what you do. Boys.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't disagree with you on a logical sense, but
they are strong films.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
They're good. All these missions are very possible.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, they're very difficulty possible. They should be hard ass mission,
hard ass missions they got.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
There's all these conspiracies running around and Michael B. Jordan
is about to be the replacement for the Ethan Hunt
of the upcoming mission impossibles, and I wonder if they're
gonna make that hard ass missions.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
You's going to be when it becomes black people.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it's as hell hell y'all gonna do that ship.
I couldn't be me. That's what it's gonna be. You
got it couldn't be me with with Michael B.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Jordan's I would rather have a black James Bond than
a black Mission impossible guy. Oh really yeah, I think
it means I think it means more.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I think they're just gonna really be. So you got
to remember British racism when it they finally do it.
It's that peer ship, that's true, that's.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Behind the times.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
You're before they.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Give you that peer ship, and I don't like how
that feels, and I don't want to see that happen
to Idris or whoever is Like.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
You been out there before, Yeah, I've only been out
there one never been out I'm good.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
It's actually, you know what's funny, it doesn't feel that
way when you're like, like amongst them if they feel
like a more liberal, frankly more like welcoming people than
we are in America. But on the flip side, I
just think when they do get racist, like look how
they reacted to Megan markele right that bitch is barely

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a color and that they were upset.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
When I went over there, it felt like a boring
New York. Yeah, that's really how it felt. It felt
like just like kind of a like stuff shuts down earlier,
but it is like ingrained in them to be I.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Think it's at their root, and that's why the paparazzi
is so mean and crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
And I've always thought about this about their media. On
some level, at least within their media, they are better
about racial stuff than we are. Whereas like you'll watch
a British movie even from like the nineties or something.
I have a black guy and a white guy be
a best friend. And that's not the point of the movie.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
No, That's what I mean is like they know how
to present progressive, but when you get to some ship
that they really don't want you to do, they turn up.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
The Royal family man.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, they don't want want that bloodline looking like what
you're offering.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
No, right, stop.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Shut out to Megan and Harry.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Uh went to I think Lakers playoff game a couple
of years ago, and so I had a little bread
at that time. So I was sitting in like B
level sweets might have got a I think it was
Lakers busy, but they were at the game once we know,
we look over like, oh ship. They just low key
holding it down, got their own little security. But fucking
with the Lakers. I had to roll with them all,
you know, whatever going on, y'all feeling out the Lakers game.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
So I'm brother with it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
So funny you're willing to forgive the roots of racism
because he didn't didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Like you liked it for a while, then he stopped
liking it.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Harry said, fuck the family, y'all moving out here, Santa Barbara.
We're gonna pull up the Lakers games.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
We moved different, y'all. Y'all, y'all, go ahead, y'all enjoy. Okay,
I'm sorry me. Yeah, I ain't family like Harry. I'm teasing.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
I'm teasing.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
My, My next question for you as it relates to this, uh.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Are we going back to that? I thought we were not.
Let's do it? No, yeah we can.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
We can go over now, let's do it. I like it.
I do want to ask, Yeah, I did. I had
a question about it too, my my, My next question
for you is do you feel like you've been cheated
out of any of the quote unquote rigging as a
Lakers fan.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
No, Lakers, we haven't had like a fuck you trading.
Actually I said that look of was trading was in February.
So but CP three I think was the one of
the few times when the Lakers actually got got but
buying large.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
For the most part, you guys are the favorite.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
You looking at the.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Gassault trade back in the day, trading for his brother
and Marcus saw ended up being a great player, but
he wasn't ship at that point.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah, he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
And he never became pow. He just was he was
his own guy.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
So as much as the league talks about parody and
being competitive at the end of the day, no disrespect
to the Nuggets, but even looking at the playoffs right now,
the ideal matchup as this stands, right now, you want
Timberwolves Necks, right, you got the Julius Randall kat Like, yeah, Yo,
Kich is a fucking great story and God bless you.
But that fans got mad at me when it was
that Nuggets he's there. I'm like, the league don't want

(36:14):
this ship, brother, I don't want this ship people are watching.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
I was watching the game with Langston last night and
I was like, you know how hard he is to
have your team be the least cool good team? Yeah,
and it's a great team. Nonetheless, i'mber Westbrook guy. I
love Joker, like I love that squad, but like as
far as like cool guys on a buskeetball team, Nah, it's.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Like Joker literally tell you to your face, this shit
is just a job for me. I'll see y'all when
I see y'all when it's done. I don't even like
doing this shit or be around Josh.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
He watched to race horses on that little Cardis Gout.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I watched the post game interview yesterday with you one
where they catch them right at the a end and
they were like asking him, like.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yo, you know, how'd you do what? It was this
And the whole time he's just looking like this past
the lady as he's talking to her.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
He don't give up. He's like, I'm I am, I
am checked out of here.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Going right back to the crib.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
And when we and when we do have cool guys,
they don't want to be there. No, even for football,
it's the same thing. They don't want to be memo.
Wasn't having a great time living in Denver?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
No? I like that. I like these mellow cruise, okam.
I mean it was nice, great time.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
What what was it the twenty on nine Western Conference
finals with you guys. That was like before I started comedy.
And then maybe if I have a child or get
married or whatever, that'll also be great. But that was
the greatest time of my life. Like the bench was deep,
it was it was man, it just felt so good. Yeah,
you guys were fun to watch, were on. We were

(37:44):
exciting God, and.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
It was it was like a bunch of dudes who
like the year before were being labeled like knuckleheads and misstits.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Buggets, Yeah, buggets.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
It was like, oh, we we've given up on these
these terrible youth And then suddenly it.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Became Barack Obama was president. I swear like that Nuggets
team Barack Obama and the death of Michael Jackson pushed
me to follow my dreams, move to California and start
doing comedy. That was like, that's how much like if
that doesn't happen, If that doesn't happen, I am a
manager of a call center in Englewood, Colorado.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's a nasty little crossover of like perfect motivation.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, I forgot also duhy, but that doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
It's like all that stuff stuff came together, No.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Because it's beautiful because because you you had all the
motivation for yourself Allah Barack Obama, you had all the
personal joy in your life Allah, the Nuggets, and then
on top of that, you have all the motivation from
fear allah Michael Jackson's life being cut short. You combine
that ship profofall shout out to propofall you.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I want that purple false I need my milk.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
I'm like, damn that milkound kind of good with it,
but damn, you.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Know how bad I'm trying to go to bed right now.
That nigga was sleeping good though I got two kids.
I could use some rest, Purple fuck please. I never
heard the shi before that.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
It never came up.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
If the King of Pop is calling that ship his
milk milk, I'm sure he was sleeping good as fun.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
That boy couldn't go to bed.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
They said he died multiple times before he actually died.
This is the theory, is that literally he had died
and they resuscitated him on different days.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Man, and he was still like, give me ship my milk.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Da.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Michael was already up out of here.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
He did enough, he accomplish. Yeah, you ain't got none
for me, I can. Niggas ain't getting on my level.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
So how much better was you going to get for him?
It wasn't going to get better. That's sweat. I think
that's probably the hard part about being truly great. It's
something being truly truly great is that the back end
it feels like, I mean, yeah, even if you have
a family or whatever, you're like I was, I was
number one, and we already had done some man crying

(40:14):
right there, Yeah, crying about it. Have some of the
finest tequila made by a man who is.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Interesting getting drunk on that Uniggs. Still let me give
you fifty What the fuck I'd have left, came back, left,
came back, made a movie. Younis still ain't doing ship
Brown still sun He really I'm a Lebron guy. But
when I look at it from that limb, but.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
He really lives so high on the level above everyone
that there was, we didn't even debate if there was
a better person.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Now every every fucking week somebody's claiming Lebron ain't the greatest,
you know what I mean, Like he'll spend his life
with that, even like as more players, they're gonna give
it to Wimby so fast.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, but do you know what I mean, Like we've
seen it with Wimby and that's the whole thing. And
this is the point because somebody asked me early on
would I rather go Chet or Wimby?

Speaker 5 (41:10):
And I said Chet. But they're two big, tall dudes.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
But what we've seen, like the Yao ming and just
when the dude is that tall, and you hope that
Winny because Wimby does everything to take care of his body.
I think this blood Cloud was just some unfortunate ship.
But he's got to be able to sustain because we've
seen it. When he plays, he's the highest level of
that we've ever seen in our lives. It's a fucking
cheat coat. But you're a big ass motherfucker. So y'all
make ship. And because of a toe shack toe, and
you know you just think about that.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
My damn toe hurt. I can't fuck it.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
I gotta retire life.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
It's a big toe, big toe, and that is the
base of everything you got cracking. But as Shorter Hooper's like, oh,
I'll be good in a couple of weeks. Like these
niggas like I got, I'll check out, come on my ship.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Little like.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
You you can take it up.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
I don't, but you hope like you want to.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I mean, you see the dude when he plays, and
just how phenomenal he is shooting threes, you know what
I mean doing. But then it's like, all right, I
had to miss this season. Hopefully they bounce back. You know,
popkinting Old having a stroll his old ass were trying
to stick around too long, just as like you know,
my last kind of thing. I'm gonna get back to
the league and get won't be ready to go, so
I can go on and do what I'm doing. But
so Pop it his retirement shit. It was like, damn dog,

(42:17):
Like seventy six nigga, you can't keep up with these
young niggas.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
And you're you're just standing there. It's not like you're
like running up and down, but there is a level
of like just keep it logically, keeping up energy, running
up that you gotta match.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I'm gonna tell everybody, encourage all you guys out there,
Like I do a show with Gil. We go like
two and a half hours live and like just sit
on the couch, go sit in the gym, just stand
up for two and a half hours walking around. And
I do that shit every single day. And see how
much your back hurts your leg. I coach high school,
my ship, my knees and back be are I gotta
go take a seat in the big chair for a
little bit too, like juvenile, but he's seventy six having

(42:52):
to do that.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
It's like, come on, man, down, man.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Get it, get it out.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
You got a scowl when he doing it. He'd be mad.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
That wears on your body. Yeah, it takes less bad Nope,
I have it. Yeah, all right, well now we both
let each other down. Yeah, man, I'm sorry. You know
it's a given and take relationship you.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Had.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Would you you had the question that you said you
wanted to ask.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Oh, I just wanted to ask about the nineteen eighty
five draft. How ballot manipulation, like the idea of it
was frozen or it was bent, or it was light.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Do you heard you hear the different theories?

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Do you feel like that's a real possibility. I also
want to ask because you said your dad was in
the league. Yeah, does he have feelings on it as well?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Well, he's still employed by the league, so he has
no feelings working with the Milwaukee Bucks. Hopefully he stays
out there. But I'm just like, you can do shit.
I'm playing site right Like you know, I'm a big
fan of magic. You see all these magic tricks, Like
it's very easy to do shit and manipulate the eye
and do all those type of things. So yeah, we're
giving you It's like, why do all that? Why not
just worsting the league? It's the number one. Why do

(44:00):
we go through all this shit? Right? Balls, all these
different things. We want a competitive balance where you had
three teams were literally the fucking worst teams in the league,
and neither none of those three teams got the top
three picks in this draft.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
What's funny is before nineteen eighty five, which was sort
of the source of us starting this conversation that was
so nineteen eighty five is the first official draft lottery, Yeah,
which is why it was a big deal that Patrick
Ewan got that. Before it was a coin flip between
the first and second worst team in the league, which.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Is how levers get magic. I mean, that's that's even
silly in itself. It's like football has right, you are
the fucking worst team in the NFL, you get the
first pick. Yeah, yeah, let's keep it if you tanked
or did whatever the fuck you did.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
And now it's like the league trying to punish tankers.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
So we're trying to punish your losers for losing by
making you lose more, right, And that's how.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
You get You don't get people to come up on top, right, Like,
it doesn't you don't. You can't get new blood that way. Yeah,
unless you got doing I guess well, And that's the argument.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
It is that, and well, I guess what makes it
more complicated is that if this were rigging just for
the sake of narrative, right at the end of the day,
what makes wrestling enjoying?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Enjoyment, enjoy Have you got it? The reason niggas like wrestling.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Is because.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It is because they they ultimately are weaving the story
with the intention of just selling you the best story,
right right, But the NBA is going, well, I'll sell
you the best story that serves financial fucking back end
so large that they're almost hard to keep track of.
But it's that makes it kind of wat.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
But it's also ultimately because they're serving the best story
for the biggest crowd, their crowdsourcing it still and I
would argue that is the same thing in w W
is saying they're just letting there. They don't have to
worry about a market. They have to worry about we
bring this wrestler out, what do they think of him?
But they're still served.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
So then has to dangle that carrid of small market
teams being able to get to the highest level and
win champion and ships. But when you talk about the
league that's bitching about viewership and whatever like the Lakers
gonna have the worst team in the league. People are
gonna watch those games, right, like the Knicks. Right now
you're seeing Knicks Celtics that series, and I see it.
When we do the show every day, people kind of
bitch at us, like, man, you don't talk about cass.

(46:15):
You don't talk about Pacers enough. And it's like when
we do talk about it, you motherfuckers don't watch right,
you didn't want to show already has opinions on how
we should do the show whatever, But when y'all do it,
like y'all don't talk about these teams either, and it's like, oh,
but the Cats are doing so good. Yeah, but we
know the Casts are going to get packed up, Like,
no disrespect to Cleveland, love you guys. We knew the
Caps are to get packed up allowing that, Like what
the fuck you guys think is going on? Like we

(46:37):
got the Celtics in the Knicks both playing high level basketball.
You think even the Pacers now they got to deal
with that, and by grace, they gotta Pacers be able
to get to the finals, more power to them, But
you got the Knicks or Celtics coming to town, Like,
who do you think we want to get to these finals.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
So here's here's my question to that. How how day
today do you think they're actually able to to present
these stories? I guess you know what I mean? Oh, like,
how much control do they have over the day. I
always took it to be like they're just setting it
up so that this team is good this year. I
didn't think they were setting it up in a way
where they're like, I calves are cooking, but we're gonna

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make sure that they don't get some.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
I mean, sometimes the teams will do that to themselves.
But like you look at that uh Knick Celtics game,
what game five? Whatever it was. Jaylm Brussey gets five
fouls in the third quarter. This is the superstar of
this team. But the series is three to one. Okay,
I for I got five fouls in a single quarter, Right,
that's just not That's not how it's going down. These

(47:36):
ref know was going on. You're trying tell me the
ref didn't know? Yeah, five, they're not tripping because Tatum
goes down like shit, we gotta stretch it shit a
little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Like it's not like they can't win a game like.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Ship we gotta stretch it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
It's not it's not total manipulation. They're not They're not
figuring out the box score. They're saying, like, hey, do
what you can.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Yeah, exactly right out there. You still might be able
to win with these variables. We're gonna make a little
bit more difficult for you, because that's what they can do.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
They can adjust factors, right, they can like adjust little things. Yeah,
take somebody out.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Like Halliburton got two fouls in the first quarter. I
think they still end up winning that game. But it's like, okay,
I going down.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
That's the argument you always see with like they they
made it a bunch with Draymond in the in the
playoffs this year of him just tackling and falling and tacking.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Like Draymond found loopholes though, because like they weren't fouls
so they had to be text So he had like
all together. I want to say, like nine or ten
of them. He can get combined before you either get suspendish.
I can get like three fragrance and fucking five texts
and I still get they were literally a favorite fouls.
That's just found me being him in the head. It's
not a foul on me because the foul has already
been caught. I'll just give him a tex at stand

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all right, he can stay in the game.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
And that's that's some five games suspension for bringing a gun, thinking.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Jill mastermind.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Yes, and you talk to Gil, and Gil literally gene
because he'll literally explain I'll tell you guys like you
and I saw, like I think Telfair had had to say, situation,
he got like two games. I saw Stephen Jackson like
shot a gun in front of a strip club, and
he might have got three or four. So I'm like, shit,
I ain't getting no more than five. This is president.
But now he comes, you know, thinking he's he's a
genius to David Stir, and David Stir's like, fuck you, nigga, Like, yeah,
you're gonna take these fifty games.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
I'll let you keep your bread, but you're gonna take
this fifty man.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I see why ESPN was scared.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
It took them a minute and then they were like,
I don't know because if he think like that, he
might say.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Something on camera that we don't.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
But but you can't.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
We can't sponsor anymore.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Like he's fucking what was I think he was like
Yoker just like the worst three time MVP ever some shit. Yeah,
but when you look at the numbers, it's like, well,
who's he better than on this list? It's like Larry Bird,
Lebron whatever. It wasn't like a slide of yokers, but
he knows how to They're the pot of people.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Right.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
They'll be like, fuck you idiots, you don't know what
you're talking about. Then they go look like, here's the list.
Yeah man, you know, like all right, fine, like whatever,
you know what I.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Mean, there's nobody you would actually put it.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
You can't put him, you know, you can't put it.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
That's no disrespect to Joker, But he really literally like
thinks about this ship and I hear him sation. He
he words it very specifically just to fuck with people,
just to see you prove me wrong. But when he's
on his pen, he's in the suit, he's doing what
we got to do, so is straight, you.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Know, but I know was scared of him.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yeah, but yeah, he tells the story like he did
uh the jump or whatever it was back in the day,
and he's like, all right, what what what words can
I say?

Speaker 5 (50:24):
On TV?

Speaker 4 (50:24):
So they give him the list here's the words you
can't say. He's like, oh shit, douchebags not on here,
So I'm gonna use that. And then it's like, yeah,
like come on, Doug, Like man, I respect that level
of petty and diligence to loopholeing.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Do you when when this loophole in, when all the
different sort of like strategies are in play, do you
feel like there's something dangerous in the way that like
we are now always aware of it before it actually
even plays itself out?

Speaker 5 (50:51):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Well, I think going into this ship, you can make
the jokes about Maps getting the number one pick or whatever,
but that shit is so far fetched you don't think
it's gonna happen. And then you sit there and watch
it happen real time. You watched six Ers get the
third pick. He talking about a mass team that was
in the NBA Finals last season, talking about a mass
team that, without injuries to Kyrie and a D would
be a top five, top six team.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
In the West this season.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
So now you're literally telling me a team that has
championship level aspirations trades away their franchise guy gets a
D in that crew, which is still a very formidable
team if they're healthy. And now we're gonna add Cooper
Flag to it because Kyrie is down for you know,
most of the next season and we still need you
guys to be competitive. So here take the number one
overall pick.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Man, it doesn't add up one of the biggest names, buzzing,
one of the talking about.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
But then but then I go, but as a fan, right,
if I'm thinking about it more as like a fan
of this whole thing. When I really loved wrestling was
what I believed in wrestling. Yeah, and now it's this
era of wrestling where nobody believes in it. Even kids
don't believe in wrestling.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
Well, kids are ass those now, and they're intelligent more
than me.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
They can operate an iPad better than me, Like, now
you gotta do this like eight years old ago.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I guess I worry that that then takes the enjoyment
out of it. If I become too self aware.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Inside of the inside of the beasts, you know what
I mean. Gil scares me.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I guess it's is that he's just exposed the whole
thing and that I'm gonna be a dumb dumb who
thought magic was real.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
But I think we all got to just watch with
him as we grew up watching wrest and we grew
up watching all these sports. I grew up watching the NBA.
I read an article and just take that ship to
face value. Now, It's like I saw something the other
day about rust came out the ESPN article. It's anonymous players,
and I was asking the guys on the couch, I'm like,
can you tell who the snitch in the locker room is?
He's like, yeah, just go go see the first person
she comes up to when she pulls up, or who's

(52:40):
the who? So you know I in the locker room
now you know, God damn well, it's one of you.
Two niggas right here are the ones who did? He
said all this ship in my ass. I know he's
not talking to her, he don't funk with her like her,
but she walk in and who she wapping up in?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Fuckingout that?

Speaker 4 (52:59):
So we used to read these things and like you
watched the Last Dance and I think it was like
Horace Grant, who was the one on that team that
was kind of breaking all the information down or whatever.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
We would just take all that ship to face value.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
So I would say, if this guy's bad in the
locker room, Like you've heard all this stuff about Russ's
whole life, like Russell you Steel, Like I'm known Russ
since he was a young pup, Like has all this
negativity surrounding from a fan standpoint, and the media kind
of feed into that.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
But everybody who's played with Russ.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Buying large, nobody always available, fucking you know, works his
ass off. Fucking that's a good culture in the locker room.
But you see Nigga miss a couple of lambs to
shoot a couple shots off the backboard, and you put
this narrative out there.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
He's just like the worst human being ever.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
And when he says you, he means me last night.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Okay, but that's the Westbrook experience, livom.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
We experience.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
You'll be ready to choke his south. Then he'll come
to and get a big steel here.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Crazy exactly, that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
But it's every it doesn't stop. Every game is one
way or the other. Sometimes you get both within the
span of like two minutes.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
But yeah, he really sends you on a journey.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
That's true. That's true, and that is in atainment. That's entertainment,
and we got to take a break. We need to
take a break. We're gonna take one more break and
then we're going to do some voicemails. We'll probably give
them one voicemail. We'll be back with more. Josiah Johnson
or my mama told me, hey, would you say that

(54:21):
you're racist?

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Not at all?

Speaker 3 (54:23):
No, Look at a dog.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
He's as black as can be.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Come on, we're back. We're back as the blacknest could be.
Shout out to the dogs, shouting.

Speaker 10 (54:32):
Out to them, dogs, dog, damn.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
They get so racist. It's Spanish.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh we we want to do a
voicemail with you. Listen to a voicemail from one of
our little mama's at home and see what they're talking about.

Speaker 8 (54:58):
Here we go readings niggas, niggas wiggers and.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Well, right, yeah, I don't I don't like that. I
don't like that he yet, I don't like that he
put that in there. That feels odd that he makes me.
I don't know which.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
At anything that that's the rest.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
I've also never heard the term wig at till today.
I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it for sure.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, white people, I think are trying to do a
little magic trick with that word wigger.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
H oh, Like it's not I think they're trying to
make it a bad word. No, you think so.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I think white people are now trying to be like
I shouldn't say that. They're the ones who say, and
that's their sh And then I think it becomes this
magic trick of it suddenly like our responsibility to police
some ship that we didn't even make up in the
first one.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
That's it always goes. Now it's d I is the
the safe word for yeah. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I was like, damn, everybody got hired just if they're
not a white man, Like they just went unqualified and
uncapable of doing anything.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Yeah, like everybody doesn't have jobs.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
No, it's crazy who they'll call it D I hired
where it's like, hey, man, I get it, I get it.
You whoever's that your work might be upsetting you. But
we got to chill with how we're labeling.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I say it every day now. I'm
just like, wow, man, they really flipped the script. But
woke how that became? Yeah, I don't want any woke
shit here?

Speaker 5 (56:30):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
They don't know it.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Or not it's too woke. It's like, huh, what does
that mean?

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah, it's nasty.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Define it. You can't.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
No, you don't want to talk about that part, all right, enough.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
I just keep doing what I do.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Anyways, wig ats, wig ats. Let's find out what they're
talking about, all right.

Speaker 8 (56:49):
So check this out, y'all. My mama told me white
people love to see black people slip. Hear me out,
not just black people, but black boys mucifically. All right, now,
think about this. Anytime you've gone to a basketball game,

(57:10):
whether at a big arena where it's college or pro
or whatever, they would always have mainly college, they would
always have some underprivileged group come in and do flips
in front of everybody. At halftime, you got skinny niggas
doing something, twists and double axles and all kinds of shit.

(57:34):
And I grew up in Tennessee, where you know, we
had a whole group that did this thing. And the
crazy thing about it it was called flip. Oh means
it gets dark. The word around the campfire was that
Flippo was actually getting these boys booty.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Oh my flip.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
I believe dude with the jail forward or at least
he was charged with it.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Flippo, you know that.

Speaker 8 (58:06):
You know you cannot have a legit dude trying to
get young boys to turn flips for white folks. You
can't have him doing that. And beyond you know he's trying.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
To get those Some of these guys are just gymnastics coach.
You gotta relax. Say, this thing was so.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
Many different places.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
I was rolling with the black man flipping part, and
I'm like, damn, they do have niggas be flipping it.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
But this feels like a personal thing. I guess Flippo
got crazy.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Flip.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
I feel like Flippo's worst enemy. Yeah. Yeah, like and
I heard the nigga was sucking them kids. Yeah, bro,
that's different than the conspiracy you brot you bring in
some some personal ship Flippo situation.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
They call a number and leave this voice. Yeah, just
go as long as they want.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
They can go like two and a half minutes.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Because that was fucking journey.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Okay, he's not done.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I will say I will say uh on the subject
of the little Black Boys slipping. My former stepfather I
famously UH spoken about this. My former stepfather was benning
the bull at one point Okay, wow, I did not
know that he was, in fact the most infamous Benning
the Bull of all time because he got fired for

(59:23):
selling weed after a game.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
To one of the players. Your hero's journey is so crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
And and just to top it all off, he didn't
become my stepfather until after all of that.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Oh wow, wow, just way way.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
After we could have benefited from any of his success.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
How did they find out he was he was?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
He was weighing three point five grams.

Speaker 11 (59:58):
Taking that off of you, Tony coach, give him you
don't take care of his man.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
I wonder if the players team caught among surveillance camera, like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I think it was caught on surveillance camera.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Haters, man, Yeah, did you was that the Nuggets game
or the Wolves game? And did yesterda dude do the
he did? It's on Twitter right now, but he's boom
boom hit it up. But which one of the games
on Twitter?

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
All day? I was like, bold, it's either Nuggets or Timber.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
That sounds like something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I feel like it's one of them things where where,
especially as a white person, you go like, I mean,
what are they really gonna do about it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah? You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
I mean, yeah, what are they going to you can't
sell we do The players like, no, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I genuinely it's crazy. But also it's like, well, you
knew what they would do about it. But I bring
all that up to say that he was a part
of a group called the Jesse White Tumblers, which was
sort of like famous group of little black boys that
do flips across the city of Chicago. Okay, it was
like Flippos flip shown. If niggas are flipping, they are

(01:01:10):
Jesse White.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
Tumblers, and without Jesse White exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Flip in this town. You give me my kick back.
I heard there's a boy over here who liked to flip.
Hey for that mattress to get moved.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Flippo holding down Tennessee, damn man. I mean, that's a
different thing than what we need to be. He's he
that's personal. I do believe him about Flippo.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Yeah, he wouldn't have done that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
He felt inclined and inspired to leave a voicemail. Yeah,
to give you a whole conspiracy about flipping at games
and looking at a little black boys flip to let
you know that Flippo was out there grabbing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Booty, and I think that maybe that's why that conspiracy
was triggering for him. Yeah, He's like, now, I've seen that,
I've seen the history. I know how there, I know
what they have to go through to get here, And
if it's just for white entertainment, then that is there's
something malicious happening.

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
I mean, think about this Jordan Childs. She grew up
in the hood. She's from Compton, but she's a small lady.
She's a gymnast. I know dudes that turn flips that
grew up in the hood. They weren't gymnasts. They were
so sha'all think about that. Every time you see a

(01:02:37):
group of black boys flipping turning flips for exhibition, it's
for white people. They love that she is flipping I
do hope y'all see titty today.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
That was really nice, man. There's a lot going on.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
He really hope that you myself titties today. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
No, I do like that. I will say now that
I'm thinking about it, I think that black people flip
at a higher percentage than any other rate.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Are we more acrobatic?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I don't know. I just feel like I've seen more
black men flip than any other race. I agree with that.
I seen I never black men are the only ones
that I seen fat guys flip. Yeah, I never seen
a fat like I do a flip.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
There's those two Spanish dudes that do that, the two
fat that flip.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Oh yeah, but I'm saying that's as close.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Jersey rocket shirt you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
When they're like popping and the trade spaces. I still
don't even know how it works. I just know that
one flipped over the other and practice that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
I don't think that was their first time. They're like
experts are doing that, and they saved that for those moments.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
They do that every day. Yeah, you want to do that.
You learn to do that in a basement.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
They wake up, they brushed their teeth, they practiced a flip,
then they have breakfast. That Yeah, I I I do
like what he's saying though about sort of this being
a grander black The fact that black kids, black men
specifically are not being like fed into a gymnastics community

(01:04:24):
does feel sinister in some.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Brothers and gymnastics. But he got that in Europe, right,
my little brothers like a world class. He's pretty good. Yeah,
he was like world classes international competition there he did
one Internet one or two international where it's like seven
or eight. That's real good in his world class.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah, you were trying to be protective to not like
make him suddenly an Olympian.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah. I didn't want to seem like that. But he
is like top, top tier. Hell, but they didn't do
that for him in America. He had to move to
Europe before that. In America, my man was just trying
to play soccer and ship. Yeah. No, I I think
I think it's exactly that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
I think it's this strange lack of instinct for putting
black boys into gymnastics spaces, which is why when there's
like a black dude on the team, it's like, oh oh,
where where'd that come from? But the whole time they've
been telling us we're the most athletic people and we're
equipped to win every sport, then why not gymnastics?

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
Right, that's fair, That is fair. They said, just got
to flip it basketball game.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
For yeah, king lot. Yeah, that's where you see the chef.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
The Jesse White Tumblers came out for a three on
three tournament I did when I was in sixth grade.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Man, that shit's low, you know what. I mean, like
that wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I think we were going split like one hundred and
fifty dollars check.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
Flip for the love.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah, yeah, they flew. They drove them from the South
Side to get to us. Three amount of black men.
I've seen flip with no formal coaching. They just figured
that out, which is brave, which is you just joked
around trying to do a foot to figure out you
could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
There's like a level of bravery you have to. It's
extremely brave. They don't even have you, or they didn't
have YouTube to like teach them the beginning steps. They
just figured out they could do it. They just jumped
off a thing and they were like, I didn't I
didn't die, So yeah, I think I can do that now.
Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
So I'm I'm with you. Flipo is maybe your own thing,
but I am I'm against footbo as well, but I'm
with your conspiracy. Yeah, I rock with it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I'm not I'm not going to write any letters on
behalf or against foot Oh. I'm staying out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
But I do believe Flip Oh is a criminal, and
I hope that he's he's met accountability, all right, yeah,
I think we did it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
This is great, This is so good. Can you tell
the people where they can find you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
I'm at that stage of my life I don't want
anybody to find me anymore, so I just appreciate y'all.
Let me pull up because they start finding and start
asking for jobs and ship and I don't have job.
I'm barely trying to keep my job. But now you
on what is it x now King Joe Side fifty four,
I'm on threads now too. I'm really trying to do
some things off red threads a little bit more peaceful,
less cancer wishes death threads, a little bit more more night.

(01:07:16):
But I also missed a lot of robots over there.
But my thing with threads is like I missed that
ship too. I need one or two just to keep
me on my toes every once in a while. Be
if it ain't my best ship, like please pack me up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yeah you you you really got to search through the
crates on threads to get the nasty sort of like
gutter stuff, And I do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
I feel the same way.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
I miss it a little bit, like, yeah, one or
two is fine, but just not the plethora of it.
But yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
King Josiah on a social media King josign fifty four.
Excuse me, let me remember because I want King to
side to get all the love.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Yeah yeah, my ship the fifty fourth on line, fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Fourth in line, but but number one here to go.
Appreciate it and boy what you got cool guy? Joke
City seven on Instagram little Field, Brooklyn, New York, June fifteenth,
that's the one I'm gonna be. I got some Bay
Area dates a week before that. I don't have them
in front of me. Little Field, Brooklyn, New York, June fifteenth.
Hell yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Follow me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms.
Watch my special it's called Bad Poetry. It's on Netflix,
and most importantly, like subscribe, rate review, Send us your
own thoughts conspiracies. If you have a team that you
think got rigged out of the opportunity, send it all
to my mama pod at gmail dot com. We would
love to hear from you and call us at eight

(01:08:31):
four four.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Little moms.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
We love hearing your sweet voices and your nasty conspiracies,
and most importantly, call your mama bye bitch. My mama

(01:08:59):
told me is aduction of will Ferrell's Big Money Players
Network and iHeart Podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Creeted and hosted by Langston Krkin, co hosted by David Bori.
Executive produced by Will Farrell, Hansani and Olivia Akilon. Co
produced by Bee Wayne, edited and engineered by Justin Kommon,
music by Nick Chambers, artwork by Dogon Kriga.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
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