Only Black People Are In the Illuminati (with Jemele Hill)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think it was somewhere recently it came out that
b Arthur and Betty White couldn't stand each other.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I was like, Yo, golden girls drop situation. Well that circumstances,
that's what. And you know who was Martin in that relationship?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know she was trying to kiss her for real,
Arthur was picking Betty White up and trying to kiss her.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Little did we know what was happening in the back rooms.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Racist money, then turning stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
I can't tell me.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
It's my turn to do the intro. I not have
a song. I can think of one right now.

Speaker 7 (01:17):
I like pretty girls, Girls Girls, Welcome Li Mama is
also like to another phenomenal episode of My mom had
told me.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
The podcast where we dive deep deep into the pocket
some black conspiracy theories.

Speaker 7 (01:32):
You know I've been thinking, yeah, man, I was really
sitting and thinking about it. I think we were too
hard and maybe this is just me personally. I think
we were too hard on the ball as life guys.
The more I think about it, it's like maybe the
the best like life advice coming out of social media
in a long time. Because it's not about making money. No,

(01:56):
it's not about grinding it's about like relentless pursuit of
a pas because you love that thing.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Yeah, they really they were the people that believed lived
by that were centered in a way that we didn't acknowledge.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think it was like and I mean sure, yeah,
a lot of them are at twenty four hour fitnesses
at times that you should be at work. Not great,
but so am I I'm in the why I'm.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Downstairs, I'm fucking around nor calls or whatever.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
Yeah, it's just like it's like so many things, especially
now coming out of social media, are so commodified, and
it's this idea of you as a product and a
brand and time, and these guys were just like balls life. Yeah,
that's just what I love.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
I just like driven and Jamail, you ain't got to
hide from it.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
You have thoughts on.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
This, I have no thoughts. Yeah, life, it's yes, I
don't know that it is for me, but I respect
anybody that that lands on what they truly love exactly.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
And I think that we all have a ball. It's
just their ball is maybe you know you have a ball,
You're all right, So it's.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Like, yeah, were's stuff on the internet, that's my ball, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, yes,
I have a family, a family. I acknowledge that they
are also life.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
But you have all come on, that's the point of
it is that I think the relentless pursuit of a
passion and just because it feels like passion for passion's sake,
not for gain, And I think that is an important
aspect to have in your life. And I think when
it came out, I was upset because I'm not good
at basketball, and I.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
Really was me.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
You took it this personally. I hate basketball players because
they get to play basketball forever.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
You really white lives matter this movement in a way
that I don't love your angle. Yeah, I don't love
your tone, right, And you're like, I could do stuff
too that.

Speaker 7 (04:08):
I've always hated it because basketball gets to be a
lifelong obsession and as a little fat kid, you just got.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
To play football and they don't tell you. This just
goes away, right.

Speaker 8 (04:17):
You just physically you can't do it. I'm a certain time,
you shouldn't do it at that time.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Well, I mean a lot of people get sucked up
in about but the point is like after high school
it's done.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
They do, especially especially especially we were talking about this,
especially linemen.

Speaker 9 (04:34):
You know now we don't there's no seven on seven.
Now you're just done. Now, it's just over it. You
benched three thirty for no reason, and you work at
Target and you're angry. And these basketball guys, hey, let's.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Go to the park. We're all having fun. Girls are here.

Speaker 8 (04:49):
But see, you just picked the wrong thing, like I wish.
And we talked about bottles.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
The sport was wrestling that okay, you were to wrestle
after sudden right, otherwise it'd be weird.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
And yeah it was.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
It was weird all within a school discrict.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
But a lot of a lot of weird then.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
But like golf for example, So like golf is life
for me, Like me and my husband we got into
golf like three years ago.

Speaker 8 (05:12):
I'm completely obsessed.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
This is something that you definitely could have taken up
younger still would be playing now. And you meet crazy,
like engaging, fun people on the golf course. Like the
social aspect. Now I get it, Like now I get
what people are of golf.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
You're saying that I have the ability to pivot my
life and it doesn't always have to be the same ball.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
Correct, it could be different and so and then listen.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
How many sports are there where you can drink and
do it and still be good at it.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Softball you could be a sofa for a couple of guys.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yes, because there's always one dude. We're just never because
he also spent time in Detroit, where I'm from, and
the stories about him are legendary. They're in a Friday
safe wherever AI is. That's my Homeie so crazy.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
That's those Virginia athletes man to be drunk and play
a sport. I will say, can you think you can
play basketball drunk? No, not even a little bit.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
And it does make me feel more passionate in a
different way than I ever thought I would. I've always
been like, oh, the game evolves, it gets better over time.
The players of today are objectively better than the players
of yesteryear. That is my position. Lebron is the greatest
because Lebron has surpassed everything that Jordan could do at

(06:39):
that time. Right, that's where I live. I'll take that shot.
If that don't feel right to.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You, I'm wrong, but we're se But I do think
some of this might be It's somewhat generational, right right,
because everybody's protective for their era like music, sports, yes, entertainment.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
Those are the three areas.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Because you know, you could not have convinced my mother
that rap, wooden trash and wasn't just a regurgitation of
samples of all the shit that she.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
Grew up on creative and blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I get that, but I mean, he's definitely, you know,
right there, he's in them like anybody I know that
young people now will they will ten years to no
not be like I can't believe that was ever an
argument that it wasn't just Lebron, whereas probably for my generation,
I was like, no, it's Michael Jordan, Like yeah, And
that's no disrespect to Lebron because I think to be

(07:32):
as firmly in the conversation as he is is a
testament to how good he is.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
But here's here's a little nod to it possibly being
Michael Jordan, is that Lebron has spent a million plus
dollars a year on his body. Every year he is
eaten clean. He has figured out a way to chisel
the form into the perfect form for the sport as
he plays it. Michael Jordan was drunk, he will he is.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
So know the story.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
You don't think this getting a line drunk every night?

Speaker 8 (08:09):
No, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Listen, Okay, Michael Jordan talked about the fact that he
did not drink when he played.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
He's a liar.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
I have.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Heard stories about it.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
He was he was getting I think it was either
four am or six am.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
He worked out every day regardless, right like, he kept
his body in immoculate.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Condition the worst. I don't mean to suggest that that
Michael Jordan wasn't putting everything he had into it.

Speaker 8 (08:42):
Now, but he was not known as being a drunk
at all.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
I only mean, and this is more jumping off of
the AI example, that there are guys who are comparable
to the legends of now that also were doing it
with other ship going on. You know what I mean,
in the way that they don't do it now.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I mean, like listen, literally the whole a good portion
of the eighties, like every third player with sniff and coke,
I mean, like cocaine, like everybody was. So that was
that was the league. That was the big league issue.
You know, Michael Ray Richardson, good God, that man at
a Jery curl and just doing blow like Miami Vice

(09:21):
right here.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
All players are too big to be doing that much cocaine.
It's scared. That seems like the ski. Could you imagine
Charles Oakley? Oh man, are you Charles Solver? That's I
don't want him nowhere near intoxicans. Our guest today, I

(09:43):
can't believe she's here.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
It's so cool.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
She She is a force a person you know from
from media in all forms entertainment, writing, television, the news,
the not news, all the stuff. She's She's won Emmys
and you know her best now from her own podcast politics.
Give it up for our phenomenal guests, Jamel Hill, everybody Beginica.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
But thank you all for the kind intro. I'm happy
to be here, happy to have some fun, you know.
And we are a journalist in my line of work,
and even though sports was sports is really my background
and still the foundation of what I do.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
People start thinking that, like I'm not a fun person.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, Like they think I know sense of humor and
that I'm just walking around, you know, pointing out injustice,
like oh there's a white crack in the sidewalk.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Somehow white man like that.

Speaker 8 (10:38):
I'm like, that's not the energy I'm on.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Right, And it's just crazy because that's what we do.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
I mean sometimes I.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Didn't like how you pretended to be a like it was.

Speaker 8 (10:51):
A white valet.

Speaker 10 (10:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Sometimes that happens where people just have this sort of
picture of me and being super serious. So I'm always
happy to be a space like this where we could
just laugh and fuck around.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
Yeah, I love it. I love it because sports is
do you do you like how serious the sports world is?

Speaker 6 (11:07):
It seems like people just don't play about that.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
What I don't like about it is that there are
just too many, too much of a machine built around taking.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
The joy out of sports.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, like everybody one everybody has an opinion, which it
sounds like a really crazy thing to say, considering I'm
in the business of giving my opinion about sports, but
an opinion in the sense of like something's got to
be wrong with everything, right, It's like, we can't just
enjoy what it is. Like two minutes after OKC wins

(11:41):
the finals, the conversation is, was this a tainted championship
because Tyreese Halliburn got you know, got.

Speaker 8 (11:48):
Injured, And I'm like, man, fuck that.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Can we just celebrate the fact that this team from
wire to wire the way it was constructed. You have
you know SGA who wins the scoring title, MVP Finals,
MVP and a championship all.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
In the same year.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Only one of four dudes to do that.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
So I feel like the joy of what sports was
supposed to bring us gets lost in this machine of
conversations and debates about shit that don't even matter.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
And also that injury is part of the bigger story,
do you know what I mean? Like that is how
history remembers things. It's like, oh, they were neck and neck,
anything could have happened, and then their hero goes down,
it goes That is how a championship can be won too.
And it's not that doesn't taint the story, that just
makes it the fucking It just.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Adds to it something that you remember. But as I've
tried to tell people, even though this is probably for
the situation, the most devastating injury I can think of, yeah,
for sure, But along any championship path, it's always something
that happens where somebody a team benefits from someone else's misfortune.

(12:55):
I mean, you know, I grew up. My coming of
age with basketball was in the eighties and when the Pistons,
when they played the Lakers, the first time in the finals.
I mean, Isaiah was hurt, they lost, the Lakers a
better team for the series.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
The next year Magic was hurt, they were healthy and
they beat the Lakers. Ass, it's just just sports, Like
that's what happened.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
I think about how different the league would be at
large if Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson don't get injured
in that that Toronto series, right, Like, I think there's
a world where, like they win another championship, maybe still together,
they work out the ship that they were struggling with emotionally, socially,
whatever the fuck.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I mean, and they keep riding, you know what I mean,
Like maybe Draymond and fire on Jordan.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Jordan Poole learns to act right because every week by
this man, Jordan Poole got brain damage because of Draymond.
All that could have been avoided.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Man, that shit seems so bad. Getting bullied at work
is the worst. It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
It sucks.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's crazy only acceptable to sports, Like, yeah, I got
football stories that are just far worse than really people
be fighting, you.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Know what, You can get bullied target too, Like I
think it does happen everywhere.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
It does just it's just more extreme like the docuseries
or the documentary that's on Netflix right now is part
of their that untold series.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
Yeah, the Gilbert Arenas Davars Kritner one.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I never would have thought the story would be two
NBA players both bring the heat to the locker room,
like they both bring the gus to the locker room,
and one of them eventually gets charged with murder.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
And then it's like.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
What one brought to Yes, cartoon guns, It's like Elmer.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
First tiger stripe three. He was like looking for silly ones.
He's that, what's my silliest gun that they don't make
everybody laugh when I pull it out on this nigga,
this wild.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, I wish we concentrated a little bit more on
the on the joy of sports, the fact that we're
watching very ridiculously physically built human beings do things that
nobody should be able to do.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
We We didn't even come here to talk about any No,
this is this is not the place, but this is
this is beautiful. You came to us, Jammel with a
conspiracy theory that I'm excited to say is the first
ever conversation he and I had on this podcast, but
you framed it in a way that I don't think
we ever really thought about. No, I didn't understand the format.

(15:38):
That's not what I'm accused.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
I do remember, though, I was like, I think.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
You've evolved the conversation is what I mean to say.
But you said, my mama told me.

Speaker 8 (15:50):
Only black celebrities get put into the Illuminati, and.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean the Illuminati. I'm struggling to understand what it is,
like what it is supposed to be the goals.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
Of the Illuminati.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Is it Is it just world domination? Is it, you know,
establishing a global currency? Like what's the end game of
the Illuminati?

Speaker 7 (16:16):
There?

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Does seem to need to be some kind of yeah, like.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Like they needs some structure.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Yeah, Because it's also because I think if it was
anything actually that important, it wouldn't be celebrities. I was in,
there's no you don't ever nobody's ever like oh, all
these brain surgeons and doctors and it's always just like
it's like rappers.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (16:39):
You?

Speaker 6 (16:39):
Like, I think my my I think my orthopedi is.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, you're making a lot of money, just like who
owns fifteen burgers, right, Like, you know what, I'm.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
Just your runner, the male business person.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Like actors, Yeah, you weren't really good at anything.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Okay, a lot got it.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Some type of a higher order.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
But you never hear white celebrities being put in the Illuminati.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
And I was like, is it racial?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Is?

Speaker 7 (17:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
What is the racial divide there? Like you don't you
hear Tom Cruise associate with a lot of other ship.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
Lastly, I was gonna say a rose by any other name,
write what the top of scientology? That's what I think.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
I think that that certainly, if we're talking about goals, right,
part of what I've always understood to be the Illuminatis
intention is like co op. I think they're like a
co op of rich motherfuckers. And so in that way,
it's like this shared work of just keeping our co
op thriving. And so like, if you make it in,

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you never go broke again. You get all the protections
of what this institution represents, so long as you're willing
to play the game the way we played the game.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
This, this sounds like the co op that prop Joe
built in the wire.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I like this, I mean, Marlow eventually gonna be like
the price of the brick going up.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
And I think and there are some arguments to be
made about the Diddy situation that that that is the
conspiracy that people are making about Diddy's situation is that
he was buying into the co op. He did wrong
by the the alcohol company that asked him to do it.
Whatever he said no. This is the hero story they

(18:28):
always tell. Did he said no, I'm a business of
my own, I stand on mine. And then suddenly we're
finding out about all of this.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
It's like the evolution of Bill Cosby was buying NBC.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
There we got right right, It's like that which which
we now know to be true. That's one hundred pru.
He was legitimately trying to buy NBC. But where people
funk around is the years are way off from what
he was doing.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (18:58):
That like this like the this was no. This was
like after his his second after like that that other
one got canceled. He then was like furious with the
institution at large and was like, I'm going to change
the whole thing. Made them an offer that was more
than they actually were like meant to be getting, and

(19:23):
they still said no. On some like we did, we
just don't fuck or we don't want you to be
the guy. And so like he was legitimately trying to
buy in BC that said, it ain't timing out the
way people wanted to, Like he did that and then
the year later they were like, we got you here. Yeah,
it was like, you know, ten years before anybody even

(19:45):
accused him of anything.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay, okay, because I totally thought that was completely false
bills about the Buke, Like what.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
You know what I always think about the Black Illuminati.
I'm just thinking about this. It's also like have some
um it's a lot of first time members.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh so you feel like it's not enough legacy.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
And that's like how you build a strong base, right,
but you're letting all these first time celebrities in money
come on a lot of new money. And that's my
issue with the Black Illuminati is like saving for your children?
How how far into your career do you have to
be to make it into the Illuminati? Like is there money?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Is there a money minimum?

Speaker 11 (20:32):
Two?

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Being about the three names you hear about the most
in the Illuminati are Oprah, jay Z, and Beyonce, Right,
those three are there other black multi.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Who's the woman who owns BT, Deborah Johnson.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Well, Sheila Johnson was Bob Johnson's wife. Yeah, right, like
that's they were married and then and now I mean
via Comra's BT. So I'm not really sure you could
the Ladys made fun of.

Speaker 8 (21:07):
Yes, right correct? Okay, so she is not or is
in the Illuminati.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
I I think if ain't in the Illuminati, it's not
a real institution. I think that's that's a powerful powerful figure.

Speaker 8 (21:22):
Like you gotta If you don't have deb how good
is your illuminati?

Speaker 6 (21:25):
That's what I would say, Yeah, because because if we're
talking about like for real not celebrity, she's not really
a celebrity. We only know her name because she's rich.
We don't even like what she makes, you know what
I mean, Like everybody's always going like, man, fuck BT,
but you still know the president's name. That's no, I'm

(21:47):
not saying I'm not saying that's my position. I'm saying
that is the we've always been very sort of judgmental
beings and we still we still know to kiss the ring.
That's a powerful individual.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But the thing is, though with BT's like this is
why I never understood the judgment. It's like we judge BT,
but watch the same ship somewhere else. It's like you
just don't want BET to show it. That's what this money.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
That's what it feels like.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Yay boy, feel good wherever you watch it, go on.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
I just want to watch the game.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
Don't take away my marginity rise.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Also, I thought they went crazy with those new edition movies.
Did that those were great?

Speaker 10 (22:32):
They did?

Speaker 6 (22:32):
Thought they were pretty good.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, my guilty Pleasure. BT watch is for my man.
All right, So this is about women who have murdered
or done something. It's usually murdered, though it's not usually still,
it's usually like straight up murdered.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
For my man.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Wow, it's a beautiful see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
It's like it's like First four eight, but it's like
the the It's like the Nigga version of snapped, Right,
That's what that's like what it is. And it's like
all women and they just like yeah, like for my man,
Like I'm just down.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
For my man.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Like everyone that's available on that app.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
It is available on the app.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
It is on BT.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It is Supreme watching and it's like a Hype Williams video,
Like it's amazing.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
I really really like everything about that BT.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
Like I've always like I.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
Had no issue with BT.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
If anything, My issue is like they don't take enough
chances right, and it's like there's things like the New
Addition went to me was was a very very strategic swing, right.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
They know the audience they were going for.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
They drilled down on what is the story that's important
to black culture, and they told it right, and I
think there's a lot of those opportunities that's out there
for them.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
I also kind of oversaturated the market though, because they
did New Edition, then they did the Bobby Brown, which
is also amazing three movies, but then they also had
the Bobby Like they just kind of like, it's like
we only nine of these movies. There's started out a
little bit.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
We'll get that Ralph transplant.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Don't you know?

Speaker 6 (24:14):
What I want is a Shine movie. I've been seeing.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
They don't have a movie, but.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
That's a film that's a life for the film, right,
I think.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Yeah, yeah, I I don't think I'm going to be shy.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
No, thank you, that's cool. That's cool in that way. Yeah,
I'm all good on being shy.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
But I mean the conspiracy theory with the Illuminati, with
the other thing I also wonder about it other than
like what's the goal, what's the agenda?

Speaker 7 (24:45):
Is?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Oh, you know what, Will Smith he was the other
one that's supposed to be the ILLUMINAI.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, yeah, he was an early I would say early.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah, he was an.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Early favorite the Illuminati.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Yeah, definitely. I think that's like the Smith family in general,
I think is like maybe the number one thing I
think about when.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
You think about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
I guess my question that's also maybe my age as well,
and like, you know, me growing up seeing Will Smith's catastrophic,
you know, the whole rise.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
My question off of that then, and this is for
us at large, is are we the ones that are
making the Illuminati black?

Speaker 7 (25:24):
You know what I mean that?

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Like, are we because this is who we're consuming, that
is the names we're circulating, rather than it being like
oh everybody's they have They talk about the Illuminati in
the white community, we're just not clocking in their life
they do. Yeah, I never hear them saying.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I just I don't think that they if they will,
I'll tell you what I think. If they do put
people in the Illuminati, if white people are out there,
they're putting people like Elon Musk in the Illuminati. Sure,
because so your point is like, we're putting all the entertainers,
and maybe that's just because that's our obvious picture of wealth,
right is like the one we're more familiar with, the

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sports figures, the entertainers, you know, that kind of thing.
For like white people, I think they would put in
like Elon Musk or the Rothschild or.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
Hot Glue exactly. No, you don't get it. This mother,
you made Glue hot. He's pretty much the richest man
that ever was.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
I have heard a lot of white people talk about
the Rothschild. So yeah, in a way that I don't
love bringing it up on this podcast.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
The Vanderbilts, you know, American family, they will put in
the Illuminati.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
And I don't know if that reflects just where.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
We are as black people, the fact that we are
you're putting like, yes, Oprah, it's got to be hers.

Speaker 8 (26:46):
She's the richest black woman ever, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
But when we talk about these richer white families, I
think there is also a level of like, you know,
there are presidents in the school and bones or whatever,
like all that kind of stuff is is that not
Illuminati is Obama?

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Now Illuminati is Obama?

Speaker 7 (27:05):
Pok Absolutely, I really can't tell. I waffle with him,
waffle with him?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (27:13):
You think he's you think he's like, uh not, you
think he's chilling.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
I think I want him to be a good man,
so bad and I see I see this current Jennifer
Aniston situation. Look, if he was in, if it wasn't
the Illuminati, they would have thrown him a friend.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
They give you a.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Friend, friend, you get a friend if you're in the Illuminati, right.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Do you mean like an actual member of the friends
castle do you mean?

Speaker 7 (27:49):
I mean, if you're in the black Illuminati, they let
you fu one of the friends. I do think that.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I'm like Corny CODs what anyone anyone?

Speaker 6 (27:56):
It could be David Swimmer, is that David?

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Yes, he's a friend, he's a friend.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Friend.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Yeah, Why did you get a friend? If friend and
it doesn't leak? Yeah? I think I think it would
be absurd to call an American president somehow safe from
the Illuminati, that he's like not tapping in over there.
You think every president was in the.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Illuminati, Carter, When if we were really in the Illuminati,
he would have lasted he wouldn't be on that list
of incumbents that loss.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
I think the I think that's why they they got mad.
Y'all have to remember that Jimmy Carter wasn't like this
groundbreaking dude right from the start. He came in and
then started doing them fireside chats and acting funny and
being weird to them, and they were like, hey, hey, whoa,
whoa was too human, he was too rumen. He was

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seeing those meetings, he was experiencing what they were doing
in there, and he was going, bro, I gotta talk
to the people, right, this is crazy, right. And then
they were like, fine, you'll go. We don't care.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Yeah, well we wanted Billy anyways.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Yeah, well were replaced your brother, Billy, you drunk brother.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Vaguely.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
I didn't remember his name. Every president I don't.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
I don't give anyone who ain't.

Speaker 8 (29:22):
I mean, I don't think JFK was in the Illuminati.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
I don't think he was.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
He'd be here.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Did you think they don't let that shot get off?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
If the Illuminati, I mean, if he was really part
of the illuminatus, there's got to be some.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Pretecition at what I'm saying, right, Like, as I think
there were.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
I guess what I'm saying is I think that if
the Illuminati is in fact this this real co op
as we are now understanding it, that it is. It
is like any co op where if you rub the
wrong people wrong, you will find yourself put out quickly,
or up charged, or or in debt, in danger in

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a way that you weren't previously.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think if you if you've been assassinated there, I
don't think you've been a part of or the the
Illuminati didn't accept you. It was something you didn't do.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
If there was an attempt, you think the same.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
No, I think that's just a scare tactic, just trying
to scare your reactor.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I don't think they would have let Trump in because
he's a hillbilly.

Speaker 10 (30:20):
Mmm.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
He's uncouth, he is, But he also would try to
come in on some reckon ball shit and they like,
we down in certain order.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
To our ship.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
But everybody rejects him. That's his whole get down, right.
I don't know, y'all. I think we're talking about any.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
Italians in them.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
It's okay, this is not this is not no. It's
clearly an Italian word. It started in Italy. We haven't
talked about no Italian.

Speaker 12 (30:48):
And everyone's crazy. Both of those things are not true words.
I think it's a Latin word that's different. I thought
it was about I thought it was Italian. That I
thought it was started by Gus.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
I don't think you're gonna find this on like a menu.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
That is disappointing. I really thought it was based in Italy.
I thought it was like it was started over there
and came over here.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
That sounds true, That felt right, Yeah, I was.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
I was sitting here.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I was like, no, sorry, but it did start in Europe.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
It didn't start here.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
That is true.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
And maybe this is a good segue for us that
we're going to take a break and when we come back.
I did some research on the Illuminati that I'd like
to discuss, and we can we can see if we
can come to a conclusion on this whole thing, and
we can find where the Italians are, find those Italians.
We know you're in there. We'll be back with more,
Jamel Hill more, my mama told me.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
But we're going to do this respectfully, otherwise we'll end
in a duel, and I mean a duel, real life
duel where only one person walks away. We can meet
with guns, bottles, knives, or books and equations, but we're
going to do this like men.

Speaker 7 (32:22):
So get ready and get ready for this. Langston did
some research on the Illuminati.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm just imagining an equation fight.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
That's what I was like, versus your wife.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
What you're gonna do?

Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, they're both curved. That's pretty cool. He's the funniest man,
pretty much the greatest guy. Jaml we We I did
some research. We were talking about the Italian roots of
the Illuminati moments ago, but the Illuminati is actually Bavarian.

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It originally started in Bavaria.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
It was a secret society that operated from seventeen seventy
six to seventeen eighty five.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
That's not a long run.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
That is not long. Is it just a coincidence that
it started when America started?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
WHOA, there you go connecting the dots.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
Right, Okay, I don't know that I ever thought about that.
I don't know why it's seventeen seventy six, but it
did start exactly when America started and started.

Speaker 8 (33:44):
It started.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah, this wasn't like a vacant parking last nobody's there.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
So did they disclose who was in the Bavarian Alumni.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
So it was started by a dude named Adam weisshopped.
I'm out, you don't like that.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
That rubs you wrong. I thought it was Freddy' spaghetti
and them. It's a bunch of German dudes. It just
doesn't German. This doesn't seem nearly as interesting as I thought.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
He a German lawmaker who believed strongly and enlightenment ideals
and specifically work to promote the principles among the elites.
So it was trying to get enlightenment to the elite
class of society. Always works well when Germans go that way.

Speaker 8 (34:34):
It's such an amazing record.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Amazing you say, we not to goat but three for three.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Ras trying to talk about this, I was like, Oh,
this shit isn't even sexy anymore.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
I thought it was a bunch of swab cloaks. But
they're naked underneath this kind of nasty. Do you think
about any of them eating sausages? Yeah, this is goofy shit.
They they It was a part of a European intellectual
movement of the seventeenth and eighteenth century that emphasized an

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individualism and reasoning over tradition, which I will say then
kind of makes me feel like at least what people
claim about the Illuminati makes sense, right, that their intentions
are like gaining individual power beyond reason, like beyond like I.

Speaker 8 (35:43):
Mean some talented shit basically right.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I mean, it might have been even less than ten
percent that they were trying to appeal these ideals to.

Speaker 8 (35:53):
So does it does it say beyond that? Like what
were they trying to take.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Over the world or they were just just trying to
enlightened the rich people and then I'm like, enlightened them
to do what?

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Also, you said a hard end date, which makes me
wonder like they just were like they quit.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Yeah, this kind of didn't work out.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
We tried it. We ri y'all just want to stop
calling each other day. You ain't got to call me
mister no more. It's cool. Were friends.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
It's just Rick.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
It's just Rick now. So the group originally started with
six to nine guys and at its largest grow to
somewhere between and this is a pretty big range, six
fifty to twenty five hundred people. That's wow.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
That's that that is not as indiscriminate as it seems
like it should be.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
No, and you would think the Illuminati would have a
clearer track if they had that. But maybe that speaks
to some of like how it becomes this larger lore, right,
is that because they don't know exactly if it's six
fifty or two twenty five hundred, everybody becomes a weird
suspect of this organization that didn't really do shit. That's

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what I was gonna ask, what are there noticable accomplishment.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Because it just still sounds like kind of some shitty
rich guys hanging out, Like.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Do they get anything done? They get some books. What's
weird is the Illuminati, at least in the beginning, was
largely opposed to the ruling class, like it was meant
to be like.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
Like anti establishing, yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Anti establishment shit, and they were closer to like anonymous
you know what I mean, like skull and bones type shit,
and then eventually found themselves shifting I think in part
because you can't get the elite together without them protecting largely. Right,
That's the danger of capitalism, as we talk about it,

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is like I make money and then I start to
build a community with people who make money, and I can't.
I can't suck up your money no, yeah, cool, and
like not do bad things to your money, even though
I know your money is nasty.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
I can't even really disrupt the system in a real way.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
No, so that they clearly weren't trying to disrupt the system.
They were just trying to overtake it and be more powerful,
which is disappointing.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
It was way better as Italians.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Who would be the lead Italian in the Italian?

Speaker 6 (38:26):
That's a good question. And we're talking about are we
talking about current day?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
You do current day?

Speaker 6 (38:32):
I mean, look, I think the fascists were in there, right, Mussolini.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
Was probably okay, sure, yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Now give us a fun one.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
I mean, there's so many fun ones. There's such a
musical people. They're such a liheard I think FEI, I think.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
Right, you're thinking of like over there Italian. Oh, I
was not thinking about you.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Weren't thinking about America. I wasn't thinking combination.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
I thought drinking. Like Guy Fieri, Illuminati said that money,
that money kept him safe. He did something right, you
know what I mean? The person Tony Pansers probably kicked
up though, right, he's caked up.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
In the universe.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
And that's and that's what makes me think Illuminati because
something changed. This is that the Tony dance that we
grew up with. What the fun is he doing over there?
Unless he burned a bridge? Is his name of Tony
on power.

Speaker 8 (39:43):
To like it's not? I feel like it's something else.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
I hope his name is Tony and everything he does.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
That's amazing.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
That wasn't it. In Taxi too, he was Tony.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
And oh my god.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
He was always like, I think that's the way to
get into show business.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
That's a really really that that would be great, Like, bro,
we can't even imagine you different.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
You got to be.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
He's allowed to be different types of Tony because he
was like the goofball, like dummy and Taxi right then,
he was.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Very different from Who's the Boss?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Very different Who's the Boss? It took him like thirty
five years to finally get with Jude.

Speaker 7 (40:22):
Of light.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Loss. He was like more smooth talking, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Smooth talking, but yet a very progressive man for the time.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
He was progressive because he worked in the house.

Speaker 8 (40:32):
Because he was yeah, he was the house manager if
you will, and.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
He protected those women he did. He really like was like, no, I.

Speaker 7 (40:41):
Believe in y'all.

Speaker 8 (40:42):
It raised.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
He was like I'm dumb, so you're right right. That
was his whole thing every episode.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
I really care for him on that show.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
I was a mona guy whoa really Yeah she was spicy.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
It's like the same as the Blanche guy as well.
It's like a.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
You oh, you like the spicier. That's the word spicy white. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
I think that I like older women who like to.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Entertain seasons season ladies of Spice.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
I will say that Blanche Blanche's stories always felt like
the life most lived. Like everybody else, they'd recount the
story and it's like, oh, that's kind of sad.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
Yeah, and Dorothy would be like like, I don't care what.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
You have to say.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
No, that was That was Betty White. That was Rose Roses.
Minnesota was the big old sad one.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
No no, no, no, no, no no no, you're talking
about Arthur.

Speaker 8 (41:46):
Arthur. Blanch was the.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Dorothy was.

Speaker 7 (41:53):
Blanche had.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
She had a guy named Big Daddy for a while
she was going crazy.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
Blanch was a city girl.

Speaker 7 (41:58):
That's what I liked.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
I mean, and you know that's in Miami.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
When you watch Golden Girls, it is like it was
ahead of his time in so many ways. And like
some of the episodes you forget about, like some of
the the deeper like social justice kind of episodes they had,
like I think our brother was gay that was why.

Speaker 8 (42:22):
Yeah, yes, our brother was gay.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Then they did a racial they did a racial one,
but they did a couple of racial ones, and I
was like, look at Golden Girl.

Speaker 7 (42:31):
Yeah. They By the way, I think that's the best
setup for a television show is give me whatever and
then let me see them face everything. I don't want
to see. If not everything has to be this niche
group and only what they experience, I don't mind. Just like,
give me five people and then have it all happened
to them. Like I like that, you know.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
I do too. Carmichaels show did a good job with that.
They did the like, hey, this just is happening in
this area, so y'all gotta y'all gotta deal with it.

Speaker 7 (43:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Yeah, it's nice when it feels like they're living in
the same world that we live in.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
So you no love for Sophia like that was she
was funny enough.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
She was funny. She was funny, she was very wonderful,
she was cutting. I like that they never really wrote
any story for she never had much to do.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I mean, she was just there really the roast people. Yeah,
that was that was like effectively.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
Every once in a while she admits something to be
Arthur that like kind of rounded out the character. But
like it wasn't it wasn't a lot. Yeah, I mean
she was the oldest lady you know. I'm sorry, but
she was also the youngest lady life in real life.

Speaker 8 (43:38):
Yeah, she one the recent.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
They didn't do her dirty though, crazy ye. And then
I remember it would freak me out when I would
see her not in the Golden Girls, like you know,
get up and it's like, oh my gosh, she's like
thirty years younger than the character she's playing.

Speaker 8 (43:56):
No she's not.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think that Betty White was the last
yeahety nine.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
I mean, you guys asked the question, and I do
have an answer to it, but maybe we should take
the well no, no, we'll do this before we do
the break the question of how the Illuminator not he
got broken up. In seventeen eighty five, the Duke of
Bavaria banned all secret societies and the Illuminati was quote
unquote wiped out. Now, in seventeen ninety eight. This is

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where it gets exciting. In seventeen ninety eight.

Speaker 7 (44:34):
Yeah, it was like, hey, don't do it, Illuminati, right,
battalions would never.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
Yeah, Tony Danza never would you ever?

Speaker 6 (44:42):
Come on? He well, it's this.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
Who was it?

Speaker 6 (44:47):
We don't know, but Angela it was one of the.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
But in seventeen ninety eight, George Washington wrote a letter
about the Illuminati where he speculated that the rent had
largely been beaten, but mentioned the group helped their infamy
by sort of like not being clearly wiped out that
Like he said, they had largely been beaten, but he
left enough space in whatever he was saying that it

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started to build lore around the Illuminati, and a few
other guys after that start to do something similar where
they're like acknowledge its existence but not fully be like
it's stupid, it's old, it doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Hmm. There's a lot of questions there, because those original
Illuminatis have descendants, right where did those descendants wind up?
And you know, especially I imagine everybody went down to
just end the Illuminati, so they might have been teaching
another Illuminati class how to Illuminati.

Speaker 7 (45:50):
Yeah, well, okay, And that's my question though, is what
is how to illuminati? Because still sounds like they ain't
on shit. I mean, but if you got Jordan, they
got what they what are they doing? If you got
the President of the United States writing letters, you're a
mover and shaker. And yes, George Washington acknowledging it he

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was a part of the illuminati. And I stand behind
the statement.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
I feel like Andrew Jackson was too loose like that one.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
I think they liked him the most. I think they
were like, look, I say, crazy ship, this nigga doesn't
that's cool.

Speaker 8 (46:31):
I mean, he was a drunk.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
He was like ambler. He was walking down the streets
shooting people in the head. He didn't give a fuck.
That's that's like they let whole stale as rather come on,
there's some boring ones that gonna be like, I don't.

Speaker 7 (46:50):
Know, the hard up.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
I think they talked to him.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
This man did other stuff. I think they just a
fat guy. I think they president him dope with that guy.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
They said, hey, man, you're doing something real nasty to
your situation and we got to be better, and he said,
I'm sorry, I will. And I think he did some
stuff I think you're right. You probably did some stuff.
But we're gonna remember that bathroom.

Speaker 7 (47:18):
No, we don't. I don't know what he did. What's
the most h what is his biggest legacy as a president?
Bathtub and mustache? That's what I know.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
We don't know anything. We don't know anything that man did.

Speaker 8 (47:32):
You are right about Abe Lake Illuminati.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
But he was black.

Speaker 13 (47:37):
He got shot by a celebrity. He was like the
Brad Pitt of that generation. Brad shot the president. I
knew he was an actor, but he was. He was
that guy dog.

Speaker 8 (47:52):
Okay, I thought he was just some struggling he was.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
This was Timothy Charlo May climb in there and shooting
the president to la is actually pretty tall?

Speaker 7 (48:07):
Really? Yeah, he's like six feet six.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
I thought he was a little guy. That's a big dude.
That's how he has all that confidence. That's not nearly
as good of a story.

Speaker 7 (48:17):
Oh yeah, I think I thought he was like I
thought he was tiny, dynamite, a little firecracker.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
You thought he was above all odds. I will succeed.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:24):
I thought he was just like a little baby guy. No,
just a tall, handsome, sexy dude.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
Oh so he's a.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
Tall guy who's having sex with model. That's not even cool.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
Yeah, it's pretty solid.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
Oh my god, the things you learned, I know.

Speaker 8 (48:39):
Yeah, it's the whole you know, him ending slavery thing,
what kind of.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
I thought that could be the argument.

Speaker 8 (48:45):
Sure, it's like maybe maybe he's you know, the alumnai
not being down with that said, you.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
Know what, imagine how many people's money he fucked up?
Exactly half the country. Yeah, and you fuck it up
in a way where like I ain't never gonna see
that again.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
No, because they knew how sweet they I mean, listen,
free labor is like they were like, this is.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
When it compared to like what they lost.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
I don't put myself in the mindset of them, but
they must have been.

Speaker 8 (49:16):
Like, channel you're inner slave.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
To get free labor.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
It's like you must have been like and you came
over here and stole the land. Anyways. You must have
been like, this is never going to stop, and then
somebody coming and being like, no, you have to try
to kill him.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
It's crazy, got gotta try to kill I shoot my
brother for it.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Frederick Douglas Illuminati.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
I think Frederick Douglas absolutely illuminati. Come on, man, I
think absolutely. He married a white woman immediately, and he
was like, you know the narratives. He had a black
do that door that time, and he was like A
right there.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Yeah, he felt he felt untouchable.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
He was like, maybe I don't know how to explain
this to you, but we can't be together no more.
Your hands they got scars on them.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
I can't. I gotta move on.

Speaker 6 (50:10):
That's not it's not where he was. Look because if
I take the dinner to mister Childs, they gonna see
it on your fingers. They don't know, they don't know.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
I can't unfortunately, unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Do you think there's been a lot of black leaders,
political leaders who've been other than I mean, not count
of Obama?

Speaker 6 (50:29):
Wait, I have one, Al Sharpton. You think how sharp
is illuminat? And ask you how you feel? I think
I don't think, man, I think who is there? Happy
to be there? Who fun is there? Who's fun there?
Who's fun?

Speaker 8 (50:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Is there like a comedian in there?

Speaker 6 (50:47):
Is like Eddie Murphy, Eddi Murphy is in the Illuminati.
I think Eddie Murphy's in the Illuminati.

Speaker 8 (50:53):
He's Illuminati material.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
He makes reggae albums. He's so free it's you know
what I mean, like you you have that's a level
of like evolved.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
He's too peaceful.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
Yeah, he seems so zen.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
I think they may. He may have been one of
those hires where it just was clear from the beginning, Eddie,
we're not going to ask too much of you. We
like your vibe. You're just so talent, like what you
can do for a sort of public manipulation, We're not
going to ask too much of you.

Speaker 8 (51:22):
Could he have been like an honorary Illuminati. I think
it might be that when you get an honorary degree.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Bill Cosby as a doctor, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
Yeah, that's really probably the best position to sit in
as a black man, is the honorary I think to.

Speaker 8 (51:39):
Be too committed.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah, and you didn't have to go through the same
ritual process that maybe the other ones.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
That's what I think. I think Eddie Murphy, they were like, Hey,
just pick somebody up on the street one time. We're
going to catch you, humiliate you a little bit, that's what.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
Or maybe maybe he rubbed somebody wrong and they were like,
we got to do a humiliation Richarry, we look love you.
You're so funny. Yes, but you love me, but you did,
you said some nasty things about him, so we're gonna.

Speaker 8 (52:08):
Have I feel like Sammy Davis Junior would have been I.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
Think definitely.

Speaker 8 (52:13):
I think definitely from an entertainer, fun guy like.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
This, this is actually my favorite the devil. Yeah, Murphy
tells that story.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
Murphy tells the story where he's staking a limousine with
Sammy Davis.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
And out of nowhere, they're at dinner.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
They're at dinner and Sammy Davis Junior is like, you know,
the devil is just as powerful as God.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Eddie goes, Eddie goes, what and then Sammy goes, oh, nothing.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
Illuminati take the conversation when somebody says that.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
What's the follow up to that? Okay, that's my problem though,
is I keep asking you have to know.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
What's gotta know where this came from and to.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Bring us full circle. This is why I'm so scared
of Tyler Perry is because I would find myself at
that table being like, you know, who's so funny, Sammy
Davis Junior. I would have been like, he's the coolest
guy and we should hang out with him every week.
And now suddenly I'm worshiping the devil just because I
want to be around this funny ass. That's such a

(53:16):
funny way to talk about the devil.

Speaker 7 (53:18):
Yeah, to be like, you know, he's just as powerful
as Jesus.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
Right, what what did you say, Sammy?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
It's either one of two reactions. Either you ask more
questions as you team to do. I'm like the piano
player in Color Purple, where I'm just packing my ship immediately.
But like it was nice because I don't know what
after that.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
That's smarter, that's much smarter.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
Yeah, I just I don't know how to pack up.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
I mean, I want to know too bad. I like
weird people too much.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
I'm gonna stick around for a while.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I mean, I made it for the story Tide. Yeah,
but I'm like, maybe this one I don't need to hear.

Speaker 6 (54:01):
The last piece of information that I'll give you as
it relates to the Black Illuminati, well, the Illuminati at large.
Let's say that there, while this secret society is proven
to have existed and for generations, they have not figured
out ways to land down exactly what or who the
Illuminati is. To the larger point that we talked about

(54:22):
in terms of it being celebrities that always get brought up.
The American Legislative Exchange Council ALEC is essentially that of
businesses and tycoons and people. It is like a secret
organization that focuses on sort of like this collective hive mind.

(54:43):
How do we strategize to keep all of these businesses
and people afloat? There's an active business or organization in
front of us, that is the Illuminati. We're wasting our
time getting distracted in my opinion, by the black one,
by accusing b.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
By the celebrity one. Right, we need to be on there.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
There is to your point about how how come the
experts of the experts are the major billionaires that are
black people? How come you know that in the business world?
How come they aren't put in the illuminati? It's kind
of It's kind of like when they from a government standpoint,
when they want to create black policies or never bring

(55:25):
the social scientists, like you know, let's call ice cube no.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
Offense, but you know we feel crazy.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
Yes, it's like when you talk to a rapper about
anything rap music. But I'm just saying, like there are
people who just go to school for stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, you mean, strangely enough, they have degrees and they've
been on the ground on the grassroots in that field.
It's like, we want to figure out how to you know,
reshape massive incarceration.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
Uh, let's go fifty cents.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
If I had a hundred numbers and my phone ice
cube would not be on the list of people I
would send. And that's not we were just hearing highly
of him yesterday. But what the fuck does this nigga
know that's going to be helpful towards like true change
they experts.

Speaker 8 (56:16):
It's like always like, you know.

Speaker 7 (56:22):
Why, it's so disrespectful to just like it's so disrespectful
and you know what I mean to think that just
to think of that, like and.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
To the larger point, it makes me feel like we
are in some ways creating our own narrative by continuing
to accuse our own of being in these secret societies,
when in fact, Beyonce is not in the secret society.
The company that owns the record label that Beyonce is
under is in the secret society, do you know what
I mean? Like that is she's as much a product

(56:54):
of what they want, and maybe you can argue that
she is she is uh being handled by the illuminati,
but certainly she's not like at a meeting.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Yeah. I mean it's also like it's front facing as
they are celebrities or the tip of the iceberg for
whatever money that they're is being funneled into that, right, Yeah,
there are always none of them run the industries that
give them.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
They're always the poorest person in first class.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
This felt like a remember how NBC used to have
the more you know, I just feel like a rainbow
should just come over right now.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
More you know, yes is the devil.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
So it's like it feels like we need to get
our illuminati game up, that we have been greatly underestimating
our people, Like we're throwing all these celebrities in there's like,
so what I have learned today is that if I'm
thinking about the illuminati, I'm going to eliminate the celebrities.
I'm going to immediately put like Robert Smith in there,
the multi billionaire and other people Melody Hobson.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
Yeah, Byron Allen.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
There we go. Let's get let's bring some power in,
some some economic muscle to.

Speaker 6 (58:05):
And also because we're here in here having these ideas
us Okay, yeah, I mean right, we're restarting I think
you're actually moving backwards in terms of the argument. I'm
just saying. But if we're restarting it up, I think
I think if we can luckily get by Ryn Allen
on the podcast, we can ask him straight up, like

(58:27):
Illuminati or not, and can we join.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Honorary Eddie Murphy style man like an honorary Illuminati.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Yeah, you know, they're replacing After Midnight with his show.
Let's go with but his show that he built himself
by buying.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
That dogs time.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
But it's comic comics, unleashed reruns. He bought the airtime
after at for after Midnight to show his show that
he don't even make no more.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
That's so funny, that's genius and petty.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I like this.

Speaker 6 (59:03):
I like the combination. He's just gonna be sitting across
from dead Men. You know what I mean? I have
these comedians ain't even with us. No, He's like, so
that you got you alteration mcdons.

Speaker 8 (59:21):
Did you just get some money from them to McDonald's.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
Got bandied no pirate? Allen like, yeah, keep fighting.

Speaker 8 (59:34):
From there? He sued them for racial discrimination.

Speaker 7 (59:39):
Allen sued McDonald's nine figures type money.

Speaker 8 (59:43):
Yo, he got I don't even know the details.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
Why about that? Why he got it? I was like,
what the fuck did he suit him?

Speaker 7 (59:51):
Like McDonald's Hey, I think I think at the end
of the day, I think we all have to give
it up Iron Allan, one.

Speaker 8 (59:59):
Of say something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Let's put them on a secret ballad to be president
of the new Black Illuminati. That's what we got now.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
I like what you're thinking. Yes, absolutely, And I think
for anybody at home who's been wondering who's in the Illuminati,
who who are our real threats? Both serve and feel
threatened by Byron Allen and the light is yeah, yeah
it is.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
Jamel.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
We're gonna say one more break I'm in and then
we're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Do a voicemail.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
But this I think we saw.

Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
I think we figured it out.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
I think everybody feels good. So more Jamel Hill more.
Ma Mama told me, yeah, give them a little sumthing.

Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
Go ahead, man, breaking when you really break it down,
we just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Do Hanks and a Negro serving the Lord.

Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
We just do Hanks and a Negro singing. I saw
home and were just I'm gonna comment on that last clip.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
We're back. I do love that clip.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
Though, what is that from. It's the group d C
Talk on Our Senio.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Hall Oh DC Talk, Yeah, mostly remember.

Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
The name our Seneo walks up and he goes, come on,
y'all sing something for us, and then and they go, yeah,
we got you. I think he says, who are you?
Tell them who you are?

Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
Like yeah, and then this underwater black man and these
two white men sing that tar Senio in our citys
he gets it, so they're singing it in our Sineo
is just like.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
He like immediately is like, na, this is not what
I had.

Speaker 7 (01:01:47):
Also, you didn't do what you thought you did here.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Yeah, that's crazy. You're being crazy. And in particular like
they all like hit that like uh that nineties ass like.

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Yeah pop, yeah, it goes longer, yeah yeah, two hunks
and it's rough. It was pretty crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
They were a Christian group, right, I have to assume.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
I think they were a Christian group.

Speaker 6 (01:02:15):
I don't think there's any other reason. There's so much
fun here. I think that was non denominational Christianity, but
it did have that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Yeah. I think also that was a play from a
Christian record label executive, We're going to cross you over
into the black market, we got you on our signio.
He said it wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:02:35):
It was like, here's what you're gonna see.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
I don't disagree. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
Anyways, we got an email voice voicemail from one of
our listeners. Uh, let's see what they talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
They're probably drunk, so you know. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:02:51):
I am just wanting to say, really, huge fan black
conspiracy kind of my ship. This is a conspiracy theory
that I think would saw all of the male loneliness epidemic.
I believe that as a nation, if we truly want
to save the black loneliness male epidemic, which I also
don't believe is real, but for ships and giggles, we're

(01:03:12):
going to pretend it's real. I think every man black man.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
Can't be lonely.

Speaker 8 (01:03:18):
Well, is there a black male? I mean, I know
they talked about a male.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
I've certainly heard male longliness.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
But is this something much like every other problem in
society that is disproportionately impacting black men.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
I think this is the one time we get away.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Clean because I had no sense that there was a
that specifically black men men were This is the one.

Speaker 6 (01:03:42):
Thing I think that is not I don't think it's
I think we are doing some of the things that
their actual loneliness epidemic, like experiences like the nut conservation
shit whatever, you know, people not wanting to bust their
nut to hold on to their their Oh, I'm the

(01:04:02):
only person who studied the internet for real. Okay, I
don't know, Corners, we just hang out. No, no, no,
you guys are pretending to be culture experts. Really down that.
That's part of what people seem in retention.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
Popular sort of like Kevin Gates preaches it, that's happening
amongst a lot of young black men. Gates, I hear
things he says, I don't aware, I don't and I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Yeah, you just sort of like it's in the atmosphere, like, okay,
he that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Very funny, and that's where I traffic as humor. He
is very very funny. He's one of the funniest people
on the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
He's like that unintentionally he doesn't know he's serious, which
makes it funny.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
Yes, and then sometimes you can't tell which one he is.
You almost hope it's like a boor At character where
it's like, if it's going too far, Kevin and you're
scaring me, but keep going. Also, okay, Okay. I'm saying
that there are young black men that are certainly mimicking

(01:05:10):
some of these behaviors that you see in the white epidemic,
but I don't think that they're interpreting it in the
same ways. I don't think they're return retaining their seeming
and then wanting to hurt people because of it. They're
doing it because they're like, this is gonna make me
hoop better. This is like, this is really how I
like you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
If I really want to be out here on some
Steph Curry ship.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
Yeah, if I'm going to make the combine, yeah, here
we go. I gotta jump two inches higher. And the
only way I'm gonna do that is yeah, that much easier.
I don't get it, like this is listen, I'm not
keep in mind. No, listen, it's phrenology. This is not good.

(01:05:54):
I want to be very clear with everybody. Mine is free.
I can't give it away. You ain't gotta worry about
me being backed up in the least, I promise you.
I don't want that poison inside of me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Seems like the Seman Retition movement is having some struggles.

Speaker 8 (01:06:15):
They need a diversity outread the one one we don't
want to be d.

Speaker 7 (01:06:22):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Maybe that over there, over there, we don't want to
take there all.

Speaker 8 (01:06:26):
Right, the things you learned, I tell you so.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Yeah, I worry that this black loneliness epidemic is not
in fact the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
But maybe maybe I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
Maybe the internet culture has gotten so.

Speaker 7 (01:06:38):
Big for the youth though, that it goes to places
that I don't know, and I will acknowledge that they're
large for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:06:44):
Undiagnosed or diagnosed depression needs to be assigned. A white
woman who wore cookie monster pajama.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Balls and.

Speaker 8 (01:06:53):
What, I'm sorry, how do we get?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
You got what on me?

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
That's not what I thought it was.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
Where did the cookie what?

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
I'm sorry? I got viscerally very angry. That was because
we did. I don't think we got to play. That
sucks that. I hate this. This is a hard thought
to hate to wrestle with.

Speaker 11 (01:07:20):
Here we go, and who has undiagnosed her diagnosed depression
needs to be assigned. A white woman who wore cookie
monster pajama bottoms in high school. He gets her for
three years. She is going to build him up, right,
build up as confident she's gonna cook she's gonna clean,
She's gonna do what cookie monster pajama bottom mamas.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Do hm, Cookie monster pajama bottoms.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
We throw this man in the trash and we never
talk about this again. Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 8 (01:07:51):
The thing is, I know exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
The type of we all know. Her name is Chastity.

Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
I mean I went to college or the bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yeah, So I'm like, I know exactly who this.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
I know exactly who it is, and I know for
certain that is not a person who has built up
anybody or anything. She will take from you. She still,
that is not a good spirit to put on anybody.

Speaker 8 (01:08:20):
I mean, three years to.

Speaker 14 (01:08:23):
I mean, that's that's a bid. Remember this person is saying,
you're you're at your lowest. You're thinking to yourself, I
can't go on. This is and you introduce this, this is,
this is, this is terrorist.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
She ruins lives, this is terrorist.

Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
He died like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
If you're going to introduce a emotional support white woman,
it wouldn't be the white woman.

Speaker 8 (01:08:49):
In the Cookie Master.

Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
Absolutely, that's not the white woman. You better not be
one from Oklahoma. No, hell no, Reagan, that's what I
give me a your psychopath. Top two you're gonna do it.
You gotta go with a bony psychopath. Yeah, man, because
I can get ass over here.

Speaker 8 (01:09:11):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
You be one of the friends, one of the friends,
one of the friends. That's the right order. It's got
dump food in the pockets. That's what you're fucking offering.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
No, that's nuts, that's literally nuts.

Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
It's been a long time since I have heard something
that unhinged.

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
This isn't This isn't helping anyone. This is an awful take.
It's an awful take, and I'm embarrassed to admit there's
so much more to it. What is it?

Speaker 11 (01:09:45):
And then if at the end of the trial session
he doesn't get better, we just take him behind the
yard and off him. Oh yeah, we.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
Just see that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
What up?

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
This is a pain of us. This is a person
who likes what we do. What are we doing to
these people? That's what I just I just can't every
decision I've ever made, you feel like y'all need to
reevaluate things crazy. Usually people just call drunk. This is
this is.

Speaker 8 (01:10:18):
So she went from cookie master to then murder.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
Like, what if we erk?

Speaker 7 (01:10:26):
The whole thing in this man is proposing that we
murder depressed black men.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
Yes, yes, First they're depressed. Then you make them way
more depressed. Correct, You throw their life into a whirlwind
of chaos, and then if they somehow don't get better
from the hell that you've unleashed on them, you take
them behind a tree, Old Yeller style and you shoot them.

(01:10:52):
And then they went, maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
No, that's what we should do.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
That's what that's the end. That no is the still
more to wait. There's this Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:11:04):
I think we can perfect it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:09):
This room for improvement.

Speaker 11 (01:11:10):
She was a light that you wore cookie monster pajama bottoms,
and I think without her he wouldn't be the rapper
that he is today. Was she referencing a lot of
people know little Dirk his first baby mama. She was
a light that you wore cookie monster pajama bottoms, and
I think without her he wouldn't be the rapper that
he is today, because really put him on.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
You know where Dirk is right now. He's not doing good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, that doesn't help your argument.

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
That's what I Yeah, this is yo, this is a pio.
This is I don't like. This is a nasty attempt
at brainwashed?

Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
Something about this, This is this is I don't like
even this is not good.

Speaker 6 (01:11:47):
This is like a crazy like they have. This is
like t mood level like efforts at washing our brains.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
This is is that that her whole description of what
these have like white women cookie cookie master pajamas, three
years whatever. If you pitch that in a Hollywood meeting,
they say, yes, oh yeah, they'd be like, oh, a
psychotic white woman that kills black dudes. Can we get
Jordan peel on this? Can we get them to come

(01:12:17):
in and do this? They call in monster, But I'm
saying that sounds like the Hollywood elevator pitch of the year.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
Well, I also don't think proprietary put.

Speaker 7 (01:12:35):
I think this person knows that all black men aren't rappers.
M It's why in the argument this person's a psycond
part when we get.

Speaker 11 (01:12:43):
Down to the nitty gridiness of like the procreation and
stuff like, I don't really give a fuck about that.
But I do think we can solve the male loneliness
epidemic with the power of uniting crusty, dusty, depressed, gross
black men with white bitches who were who wore Could
you monster pajama bottoms in high school again. Super huge

(01:13:04):
fan of the show.

Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
You this bitch, I don't want you to listen to
our show anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:13:14):
I'm not a fan of you.

Speaker 7 (01:13:15):
Stop it. I like you, I like your ideas. Stop
listening to it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
This sucks, man, Fuck you with it. By the way,
show what a dusty black man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
And so every black man that's depressed has to be
like this is not exactly So I guess she feels
like she's gonna help depression because by her theory, there
will be less black men who will actually be lonely
because she's murdered them.

Speaker 7 (01:13:46):
I appreciate you going that deep. This is a devil.
I mean, we need to treat this person as such.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
You guys need to call Homeland Security now.

Speaker 6 (01:13:54):
But at my most empathetic I go, this is a
person saying I I think we should collect the bottom
tier of one community and make them mush into the
bottom tier of another community to solve a loneliness crisis.
And I think that that is eugenics. I think that

(01:14:17):
is do you know what I mean? Like, I think
that is vile, vile ship that is being proposed to us.
And this is a nasty person.

Speaker 7 (01:14:27):
No, that was horrible.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
This person scares me to my bone.

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:14:33):
Yeah, I think that she might need some help. I
mean I don't. I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
I would love to know, I would. I honestly hope
some kind of substance was involved. But she said angel dust. Yeah,
be drugs that ain't.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
Even out there like that, like some retro shit we
don't know is drugs. This bitch is helping oven cleaner.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
This does seem like it could be helium, Like it could, yeah, helium,
you know sort of you know if.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
You put it up your butt.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
You sound like that for a long time, right, It's
like an unusual drug that they put in a not
so usual.

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
Yeah, like a combination of.

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
Yeah, yeah, you're smoking nitrogen out of pipe. This is
something weird.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
I hate, man, I just like need a camera in
her brain to see, like what is not happening there?
Like is it? I'm not it was.

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
I think this is a person who has been hurt
and who seeks to hurt. I think that's probably hurt people.
Hurt people exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
Well, Jamelle, this wasn't supposed to be how we ended
the podcast. I mean, listen, sometimes they good.

Speaker 8 (01:15:51):
This was not it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
This is I know the opinions expressed are not of
those of the hosts, so I do get this.

Speaker 8 (01:16:01):
But this was an amazing time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
A lot of funny does not take away from all
the things I learned about from you know, the Semen
retention movement. Let's go there to how the Illuminati was
actually formed. That George Washington was probably in the Illuminati.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
No Italians, no Italians in it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Listen, huge gaping blind spot there to not have Stevie
Wonder alumnadi her.

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
No, Oh, Stevie's in that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
Ste Ray Charles is not. I can see that. I
could see that Ray was nasty.

Speaker 7 (01:16:34):
I can see that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
I think there were a few like members that fucked
with him so they kept him taken care of. But
I don't think Ray was in there. But Stevie can see.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Well, I mean, if this podcast hasn't addressed that, then like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:16:49):
That's what I think.

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
I was, like, what you know, I think I think
he didn't always I don't think he was always able
to see. I think they got him some new eyeballs. Yeah,
they got it back, and they got to make him
play it cool, you know what I mean? Like how
the government has technology way before civilian. I think I
think songs in the key of life. Yeah, you go ahead,
we're giving you some new eyeballs. My man, Hey, you

(01:17:11):
know what this the house in that sky? Yes you do.
Thanks to me Child's Illuminati. We got some other products
for you to That's what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
The Illuminati game. They got Steview there.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
Is and hey, good on them, because he does he
does deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
I think it doesn't necessarily have to mean something apocalyptic.

Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
Perhaps there's some good the Illuminati could do.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
I think they were like, we want every funeral, every
famous funeral, to be slapping from now on. We got
to keep Stevie taking care of yea, he gone there
you go that he will pay us back in.

Speaker 7 (01:17:56):
Song, almost as if it's like a guiding hand for society,
not like something meant to rip us apart.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
M This nigga is nasty. I saw you saw it, Jamel,
Tell them where they can find you, because that's a
bad guy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Do you have any right women with some cookie Moss servants.

Speaker 7 (01:18:21):
My life is going good. I'm not depressed at all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Well, people, I have my own podcast, as you mentioned earlier,
weekly podcasts. You know, we tackle like you the light
subjects racism, you know, Cinemokia, but it's it's the sports
and politics podcast called Politics, covering the intersection between sports, race, gender,
and culture. So yeah, so I'm very excited and happy

(01:18:47):
to be doing that. In fact, this uh, this particular
week's episode, it's Chris Paul whoa so not in the Illuminati.

Speaker 7 (01:18:56):
Not in the alum.

Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
You on the banana boat and not think the banana
boat was a humanliation instual. Look, guys, I'm not here
to make that decision.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
It's the end of the show.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
Lebron definitely come on.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Come on, hell were talking about Go ahead and tell
your story because I got nothing.

Speaker 7 (01:19:21):
Man, I'm moving cool guy jokes eighty seven on Instagram,
Buy my special on Patreon.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
Yeah, and you can follow me at Langston Kerman on
all social media platforms and like, subscribe, rate, review, do
all the things. Send us emails at my mama pot
at gmail dot com. Send us voicemails at eight four
or four little moms. We would love to hear from you,
and most importantly, h fuck ice by bitch.

Speaker 7 (01:19:47):
I want you to know this.

Speaker 10 (01:19:48):
If your prayers include me to stop drinking, stop smoking,
and stop having fun and stop watching these little bitches
spop d adds if your prayers include any of those
things and not gonna work because of rejecting them at all,
and I will be continuing in my saying we could
add motherfucker waves that gives it that the way you
want to put.

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
My Mama Told Me is a production of Will Ferrell's
Big Money Players Network and iHeart podcast creet it and
hosted by Langston Kruk, co hosted by David Borie.

Speaker 7 (01:20:19):
Executive produced by Will Farrell, han Soni and Olivia Akilon.

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Co produced by Bee Wayne, edited and engineered by Justin.

Speaker 8 (01:20:27):
Kommon, music by Nick Chambers.

Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
Artwork by Doegon Kreega. You can now watch episodes of
My Mama Told Me on YouTube, Follow at My Mama
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